isle-lore-theories

[hallow ruin]

by the OG maker

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

i remember their name but i CAN'T (at the same time) remember their name

[hallow ruin]

lmao

are we all aware the isle discord logo STILL HAS PHOENIX CORP IN IT

in the gif itsself

[acoustic osprey]

yeah...

[hallow ruin]

||im begging dondi.. make Phoenix canon again..😔||

For a better future !

[wise peak]

did u know they already have the whooly mamoth in a african elephants female thats in progress of gestation but saddly takes 2 years for elephant to give birth

[full grotto]

what is phoenix cannon

[bright shoal]

If you look at the isles server icon on discord its an animated one and hes referring to the eagle with the dna spirally thing below it. Phoenix was a rival company? (i think i dont remember exactly) of Apollo Engineering and that was there logo and i think it was made un canon.

[ionic sable]

Dittiebun

[full grotto]

🦫 damn i see

[ionic sable]

#1093274799066841118 message
You might recognize them from here.

[bright shoal]

Rip lol no access (I was curious)

[acoustic osprey]

there you go

[hallow ruin]

ITS HER!!! woah never knew

[hallow ruin]

i surely know dittiebun, been watching her even before ApolloFiles n all

[kindred bobcat]

Unknown 🤔

[hallow ruin]

🤭

[low scarab]

I will miss phoenix Corp

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/let-it-die-gif-16851571680202593785

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[icy onyx]

Oh

[torpid roost]

primal carnage and the isle best dino games ever

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/icemonkey-chimpcelebration-monkeycelebration-blizzardmonkey-primalrage-gif-1852916380748151682

[low scarab]

primal carnage has no right being as fun as it is

[fresh pulsar]

Did somebody say, old Apollo Engineering concepts?

[snow jasper]

yay

[ornate comet]

something interesting I saw with the 2 new screenshots was that it looks like the ht grass isnt there. Maybe its just a distance thing or this pic was taken at an earlier date

[fast forge]

or it's being tested separately

[patent ginkgo]

Is this the new “birds aren’t real”

Grass isn’t real.

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/touching-grass-touch-gif-21219969

[patent ginkgo]

Where’s that “grass hasn’t been touched” punch quote

[lethal moat]

Grass is made up by the government to get you away from your PC to work more

[frozen totem]

SHRUBLAND CONFIRMED!!!

[viscid nova]

cant wait

[viscid nova]

troodons rejoice

[muted reef]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1356417733134254142/b010be47ef039a557ff2085cff9a5a79b03e4c35.gif

[fast forge]

This is true, I used to work for Big Grass

[calm wagon]

Since you talked more about what humans will be like in the game, I'm intrigued to know how far along their development is. I really want to play as a human.

[lethal moat]

I knew it!

[young sphinx]

I love me a good beach

[fast forge]

sounds like a number of map changes

Gateway's south plains has been updated in preparation for upcoming location features
Sounds strangely ominous

I'll have to see it to understand it I suppose

[carmine sail]

South Plains is planned to get a human structure

[fast forge]

indeed

[carmine sail]

So that might be included

[fast forge]

would be cool

[spice basalt]

where rex lol

[lethal moat]

Skin creator

[spice basalt]

i dont see him there

his in carniv?

[lethal moat]

Are you on the hordetest branch?

[spice basalt]

ye

oh i see now,thx

[muted reef]

MAP LORE

[hexed forge]

Time to go into replay yahoo

[muted reef]

So it's basically southwest area that got remade?

[hexed forge]

Yes

Huge Grassland basically.

@patent ginkgo They are all over the beach... great..

Tree

[patent ginkgo]

Gene editing…

[hexed forge]

Probably..

So basically,

Southwest, huge grassland/shrubland.
West Access, trees, everywhere. And a cool beach location on the western tip of West Access.

No human structures.

[fast forge]

you mean the quindios growing close to shore?

[patent ginkgo]

yes

cerato doesn't like it much

i dont mind

also, noticed that theyre sunk into the ground so that the root flair isnt exposed anymore

[muted reef]

I do

[hexed forge]

I don't mind it

Not anymore at least

[fast forge]

yeah I suppose they just kinda come out of the ground irl

[hexed forge]

Also South Plains still exists basically. Wonder if that will change

[patent ginkgo]

That trail right there looks eerily like the path between the volcano slopes and northeast plains

[pseudo lantern]

this section?
i think i know the one

there's also one that looks like that in northwest ridge by the pz

[patent ginkgo]

yeah

where it cuts into the slope a bit

[pseudo lantern]

aye

[hexed forge]

No GUTS changes this patch, from what I've explored at least.
However I think one of the entrances were slightly extended, it felt longer. One of the ones at Docks. @acoustic osprey

[lethal moat]

Yo lorelings

Anyone want to see if it's morse code?

[hexed forge]

Where is that?

[fast forge]

ooooh

[hexed forge]

Aye

[lethal moat]

Dome entrance

[pseudo lantern]

-..--

[hexed forge]

Hmm

[fast forge]

that feels like morse

[hexed forge]

Mhm....

[pseudo lantern]

the flickers are extremely inconsistent

[fast forge]

west access now has a ton of trees

looks much nicer in general

[hexed forge]

Might just be a weird flickering light then

Or just a very.. long.. message.. ?

[hexed forge]

East plains 3.0

[fast forge]

these little pillars are different, lower

should be easier for ptera and herrera to traverse

[fast forge]

yeah it feels like east plains now, but like a better condensed version
because tbh there were a lot of empty palm plains across the island like west access and old east plains

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[lethal moat]

CUBES

[fast forge]

game trails along the northern coast

[ornate comet]

lol, very subtle

[fast forge]

I think it will look better outside of replay mode

[pseudo lantern]

were the gravel textures always like this? they look different, as well as the path at north lake

[ornate comet]

wonder where the mangrove biome would fit, maybe in this area now that its less...pillary..

[hexed forge]

I dont think so

[ornate comet]

you found the mega gastro, eat it to instantly die

[hexed forge]

South/east of swamp in the shallowy portion on the beach

[ornate comet]

like in these new pics?

[hexed forge]

No

[ornate comet]

I would go look myself but im SUPPOSED to be researching the serotonin pathway

[pseudo lantern]

DAMN was this always a dibble spawn?

[hexed forge]

Yes

[fast forge]

do that, it's more important than this
you'll have plenty of time to see this stuff

[ornate comet]

you will shuffle to sp sanc AND YOU WILL LIKE IT

[ornate comet]

ye, gonna do that now.

[hexed forge]

Cya

[ornate comet]

all done

still on the fence about the new grass tbh

[patent ginkgo]

its much more realistic for grass instead of sedges

better represents stem grasses instead of clump grasses but oddly large

also, looked through the new shrublands for new plants. def some new models to gateway but as far as ive seen, no new plant types

[hallow ruin]

top tier

[lethal moat]

After work tomorrow, I want to see if that light is actually morse code

I might leave it to lorecord actually

[hallow ruin]

excuse me?

what light

[lethal moat]

Check lorecord

[fast forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

[low epoch]

Well, guys, is there any guesses about "SOS" signal?

[hallow ruin]

i think @acoustic osprey has some info on it, he been working on it lately but im not sure what he ended up with

[low epoch]

I hope he managed to get something
In any case, waiting.

[hallow ruin]

as far as i know, he was looking through it with some sound editing program (hes good with that kind of stuff) to check whether if its actually SOS, or edited/manipulated morse code (but being canon and in-universe)

the SOS had no spaces between letters wich meant it might be another sentence but a part of it only is shown

afaik there was a few possible theories

• its a part of a longer sentence, with first part maybe being (B) and its somehow not complete

• maybe... someone manipulated it? either making it looking like an SOS, or.. idk

• this one is what i think and he thought its most likely, its SOS but the person who did it was so rushed that he did not do any spacing, the excuse for this is.. well, its an SOS signal so he's surely panicking

[low epoch]

And the location of the signal has not yet been determined?

It seems to me that the signal value may vary depending on the location

[hallow ruin]

the last time i heard it in-game was spiro, it was coming from the only radio station and only heard when u are very close, like at it

i have no idea about it in GateWay to be honest

[low epoch]

Radio station... So it could have been a signal either from a ship or from another island
But if it is a ship, then the question is how it got into the waters of the islands

[fallow harbor]

is it just ur settings or does the game just make the ground look horrible?

[icy onyx]

new lore in update?

[frozen totem]

oooh does sand no longer turn green at a distance?!?

[frozen totem]

Where/when was this

[hexed forge]

Little to none

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-fire-elmo-green-elmo-mscelmo-gif-24557102

[hexed forge]

Sort of..?

Im guessing this implementation is just the layout of the game trails across the map. Not finalized yet.

[icy onyx]

Not fun

[gaunt hazel]

I have no idea what the isle lore is

[patent ginkgo]

Check the first pinned document here

We take detailed notes

[carmine sail]

Dondi's stream, I just put it on the map

[frozen totem]

gotcha

[fast forge]

also worth looking through #isle-phase-three

[frozen totem]

genetic engineering gone south

as usual

[hexed forge]

Some people have been asking whether these are scars or just a weird skin pattern on its bottom jaw.

If these are scars,
I wonder if it has something to do with the Shirley theory?

If it is a skin pattern, it very much does look like a scar. But eh, might just be a detail we are looking too far into.

[patent ginkgo]

could be there to be a bit of both

just to make rex look tougher really

[hexed forge]

Potentially

But I wouldn't be surprised if Don decides to give it a lore reason tho

[snow jasper]

Would have to compare them to another pattern
Though, if they were intentional, i'd have assumed they'd make it more obvious.

[hexed forge]

Oh they are really obvious imo,

Noticed them instantly when I played around with the skin

[snow jasper]

ironically looks more obvious when you zoom out lol

[hexed forge]

yeah lol

[snow jasper]

fair enough

could just be the textures optimising based on the distance from the camera, but i don't know

[hexed forge]

I really do hope those are scars so it's more evidence towards the Shirley Theory.

[median shuttle]

seems like the volcano bunker entrance by the bridge got quite the upgrade

[muted reef]

Damn

[hexed forge]

WOAH

I did NOT see that

Collapsed tunnel

[lethal moat]

Hell yeah

[ornate comet]

I click the pics and they wont load since im updating rivals

BUT IM IMPATIENT

[hexed forge]

Mostly unfinished still,

But looks amazing

[median shuttle]

new stuff by the riverdelta base as well

and a maybe new guts entrance on the eastern shore between delta and east jungle

[meager junco]

Ayo we were right about the base bunkers being connected underground

[fast forge]

that was already there

[fast forge]

also this

[muted reef]

Remember when we thought rex was gonna come out in summer 2024...yeah...

[hallow ruin]

BRO WHAT 💀
THEY NUKED K15?! 💀

[ornate comet]

Anyone know the “fixes to fish aggression”

Please say my Beipi can’t be snapped up by a fish that I’m clearly bigger then

[hexed forge]

It just didn't load in replay mode.

[hexed forge]

Probably that

[long onyx]

i thought that base looked more like this in evrima

[median shuttle]

it's been changed in the last patch but it does not look final

[hexed forge]

Its like that because of the replay mode...

[median shuttle]

could be I didnt go there myself

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[ornate comet]

What’s this thing I’ve been seeing of a random noise that plays when you’re in a bush on ht

Not the rustle

[pseudo lantern]

if you stay in a bush too long it plays a loud noise

[alpine lynx]

makes absolutely no sense

[ornate comet]

Weird

[alpine lynx]

its a addition that def can ruin ambushes

or hiding

[pseudo lantern]

anti-afk done wrong i think

[ornate comet]

How long is too long? Like what if I’m hiding from the massive cerato hordes on official as a young Stego lol

[alpine lynx]

yeah thats the issue

[pseudo lantern]

trying to get away from something that's chasing you? nope, can't hide
trying to ambush someone? they know exactly where you are now

[alpine lynx]

it would both mess up hiding and ambushing someone else

which is NOT good

[snow jasper]

YESSSSS

[hexed forge]

What is the sound?

[pseudo lantern]

woshhghhgsh

[hexed forge]

thanks

[ornate comet]

Or it’s also like

I swear it’s a little animal yelling at you as well

[pseudo lantern]

idk i cant run HT

[hexed forge]

"HEY, GET OUT OF THE DAMN BUSH"

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[hexed forge]

Why are you guys not able to run it?

[ornate comet]

It’s sounds like what id imagine a horrible hybrid of a compy and ptero to sound like

[pseudo lantern]

🇨🇨

[ornate comet]

My pc just hates the isle, since like October

[pseudo lantern]

frames are fine but every 10 steps i take, i teleport back 5

[ornate comet]

Had to go on all low settings down from high and epic, fps goes from 120-45 like 3 times a second

Constantly

[hexed forge]

oh just rubberbanding

[hexed forge]

hmm, thats weird

[ornate comet]

It was like a switch turned

[pseudo lantern]

by fine i mean like 17fps on lowest graphics

[hexed forge]

wha..

[ornate comet]

I sold my carno on petits and spawned as a pachy in east lake and my fps has been nuked ever since

[ornate comet]

I’m gonna stop complaining then

[pseudo lantern]

im used to it

[ornate comet]

There must be a LORE reason for low fps

What’s your graphics card xenon

[pseudo lantern]

1650 iirc?

yeah 1650

[ornate comet]

Hmmm

I got a 4070

[pseudo lantern]

the gaming laptop curse

[ornate comet]

Back on the spiro days I had a gaming laptop

10 fps when I went to center

Maybe I just need to get some compressed air and tear open my pc case and go to town or something. I’ve cleaned config, reinstalled, made sure my specs were running well

As for you, good luck soldier

[waxen ledge]

where can i find this?

[hexed forge]

It's in the volcano GUTS Entrance, you can only enter there through replay mode only for now.

[waxen ledge]

damn i was hoping to see it in person

[sacred spear]

the brainchip in dinos heads overloads sometimes :\ sorry! - ae

[placid ice]

When tRex on hordtest ?

[fluid spruce]

When will rex be added to hordtesting

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-ed-gif-4238134136138479826

[torpid roost]

oh they removed almost everything

[torpid roost]

lore..

[pseudo fable]

Record and bug report that. I've not seen it nor had it happen to me or in testing that I've witnessed. That shouldn't happen. No movement, no sound.

[near nebula]

will there be a patch today because ht is unplayable with the ping on low fps

[pseudo fable]

No. It's the weekend.

[near nebula]

alright

[ornate comet]

I can prob record that in a little bit as well

[young sphinx]

I seen someone make a vid of it too

[pseudo lantern]

woag

[icy onyx]

Woahzers

[muted reef]

Bazinga

[acoustic osprey]

After GUTS
I wonder if these will come

[pseudo lantern]

woag

[hallow ruin]

tartarus entrance

[merry zodiac]

Where could you imagine them? Just like in the side of hl?

[hexed forge]

Depends on how much gen1 lore has changed...

[merry zodiac]

Probably most of the stuff we know is out the window

[acoustic osprey]

Mayhaps

[hexed forge]

Isaac since you are back, what do you think of this? #isle-lore-theories message

Another image for better reference

[iron anchor]

classic nether portal, even has 2 blocks at ground level

[acoustic osprey]

exactly

[acoustic osprey]

if they are scars
why would that be genetically replicated and (presumably) naturally produced?

Presuming it would be the same/similar case with AUGUSTUS where there were both natural off spring and replications

of course, we don't know if Replication would completely replicate EVERYTHING

but scars?

feels a bit like a stretch
unless, someone, the scars are not 'scars' but more so something that Shirley evolved onto her?

but... idk
it is a bit weird

[hexed forge]

If they are physical replications, wouldn't it keep the scars?

[hexed forge]

True

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
I doubt they would be immediately reproduced into the exact physical state

especially externally recieved physical additions like a scar

[hexed forge]

I suppose so

We'll have to see when more patterns release, since this is just pattern A.

It might just be a pattern unique thing.

[acoustic osprey]

likely is

i just feel like it is a bit of a stretch
unless, genetically, SHIRLEY got those scars for some reason

[acoustic osprey]

definitely seems like the admin/industrial GUTS HUB

#isle-phase-three message

just half done
atm

so we 100% have to be on look out AT the volcano for Glance Sheets then (once it is done)

maybe a few more weeks, which is good

[hallow ruin]

its really odd. have we ever spotted it in legacy? or is it a small unnoticible addition in evrima?

[acoustic osprey]

would've been noticeable in legacy, if it was in legacy

[hallow ruin]

gonna do my own investigations

[hallow ruin]

good idea, but wth could this thing she evolved to.. be? skin type pattern effect?

@acoustic osprey do u have a skin that its ver obvious on? and show me the colors of it if u can (left side things)

[acoustic osprey]

no idea
just got back home from camping

[hallow ruin]

@hexed forge @acoustic osprey yo guys.. have you ever tried... flipping to the other side.

also, look at this

males look fine, but females... have some wierd distorted patches of brighter color where the male detail is at

also in this image ^
u can notice the scar type things on the rex's eyebrows/forhead

doing some sort of a / \ shape

and yes, it IS, its not just the pattern its on al growths
wierd. this is wierd.

[acoustic osprey]

looks there for both tbf

[hallow ruin]

oh.. right..
this is wierd.

[snow jasper]

rex cant apply skin care to its back due its short arms, therefore its a sun burn

[maiden sundial]

Btw haven't seen the baby stages for rex.

Is it cute

[snow jasper]

no

[maiden sundial]

Is it scrungly?

[snow jasper]

yes

[maiden sundial]

I must see the scrungly.

[hallow ruin]

HATCHLING isnt in skin editor
but i have its model
ITS CUTEEEE

[hallow ruin]

also, yall dont forget, rex seems to have a lot of material errors like masking ones here

so anything could be a mistake

[maiden sundial]

RATS.

[snow jasper]

it looks constipated

[hallow ruin]

this is juv 💀 dont spread misinformation

[maiden sundial]

Oh my god it's so scrungly.

[hallow ruin]

its literally an omni

[maiden sundial]

Juvie rex is so scrungly and I love it

[hallow ruin]

i mean cute

[snow jasper]

lets be real, hatchling and juvie aren't going to be vastly different

[hallow ruin]

check DMs

[hallow ruin]

ur so incorrect

[acoustic osprey]

pretty sure current HT patch is real buggy with models

everything in replay, at times, is just really blocky lately
and unoptimised in-game

[snow jasper]

i am making a valid prediction given the state of every other playable in the game

[hallow ruin]

bro. just nvm

[hallow ruin]

check lorecord instead

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-stiller-zoolander-im-not-your-brah-gif-13489162

[median shuttle]

With the GUTS expansion in the volcano bunker do y'all think we might get some limited GUTS segments this ht or do y'all think it'll be in a ht down the line once it's more complete

[hexed forge]

It's really noticeable. And no it is not in Legacy.

[hexed forge]

yes...

If it is a scar,

Could be a scar from a deino attack who knows.

[hexed forge]

This HT is about to be a recreation of Update 4 😔

We will probably get to see GUTS

[hexed forge]

What does this have to do with anything... also they both have it..

[acoustic osprey]

i mean it is no longer a bunker now, which is great

it is now a proper GUTS section
mainly, a GUTS HUB

[ornate comet]

Every day I wake up and pray that the drinking end lag goes away in the ht

[acoustic osprey]

seems like it is a scar
likely a bug though, from how TS1 was analysing it

[hexed forge]

maybe..

[acoustic osprey]

there were some new models in the incomplete GUTS HUB

had a whole 'diagram' image on them with numbers
but it seems like it was a marketplace asset

[hexed forge]

yay....

[acoustic osprey]

woohooo

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/teamwahoo-don-quixote-limbus-company-gif-9353416952663371780

[muted reef]

Galli has one too

[acoustic osprey]

as much as i really enjoy the marketplace assets adding flavour to the world
it is a bit painful

especially this new one (i'll send a photo in a bit)
which actually, on first glance, made me think it was connected to an actual

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png?ex=67feb701&is=67fd6581&hm=67d1379df30035179d9355659acc51af1de44570d4e5e2c086762f725c24409c&
specifically this

[hexed forge]

oh I see

[acoustic osprey]

it, without proper look, looked like as if it matched up with that picture

as it had 'a, b' etc on different areas on the 'image/diagram'
but it went to T

which... yeah, not in our one

[hexed forge]

oof...

[icy onyx]

Can someone explain the reaper to me???

[acoustic osprey]

in legacy

Tissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject. Initial results proved fatal.
Doctor Vega perfected and coined the term of his first success on September 7, 2004. There are 12 active specimens

basically a human with a strain, specifically the tissoplastic strain

in evrima? We only have the design
but we know that tissos, in evrima lore, can regen limbs and are linked with The Matrairch

[icy onyx]

oh, neat! thank you very much!

[acoustic osprey]

no worries!

if you have any questions, always feel free to ask in here

[acoustic osprey]

this

[hexed forge]

Wow..

And you are 100% sure its a marketplace asset?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pretty-sure-mark-grayson-maybe-yes-invincible-gif-20907699

[hexed forge]

Are you sure?

lol

But yeah, thats unfortunate.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

immediately noticed the letters on was SO EXCITED for a second

[tacit loom]

This reminds me of the meme that’s like my coworker is going insane

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[bright shoal]

thats a cool lookin spaceship

[pale marsh]

Woild i be wrong to compare that to this

[pseudo lantern]

I mean it looks remarkably similar

[pale marsh]

Should probably find a version that doesn look like nutbag conspiracy theory stuff

But, its old ass, esoteric abrahamic stuff, so thats kinda impossible

Idk, how i could tie the kabbalistic tree of life to, anythinf the isle related outside of purely visual inspiration

This, hurts the eyes less

[acoustic osprey]

a similarity compared to since release... sorry to say... 😔

[pale marsh]

Dang and i thouvht i was onto something

[acoustic osprey]

it does certainly look like the tree of life
one abrahamic-esque looking thing is quite interesting, especially when everything else is Greco-Roman

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
if you got things better on it, please!!!!

but... hard to say really since nothing has really been given to us of the sorts since ERRANT-291

[pale marsh]

Yea, im, researcbing thr tree (instead of sleeping cuz RAHH!!)

Im, very confused

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/grey-cat-cry-gif-2840808548593801720

[pale marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-exploding-bingus-my-beloved-gif-24830240

[young sphinx]

Guys this is the most important document here

Don’t loose sight of that.

[acoustic osprey]

Forgot it already

Sorry

[young sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/i-give-up-oh-my-so-hopeless-losing-hope-youre-so-useless-gif-15841662037825664685

[hallow ruin]

i just noticed it

[hallow ruin]

THIS INGAME? WHERRE

[acoustic osprey]

the HUB at volcano
marketplace asset

[torpid roost]

looks like some weapon

is it a map of the the Hub?

[acoustic osprey]

marketplace asset
doubt it has importance

looks like an area/facility layout if anything imo

although
it is weird

[hallow ruin]

surely not, we have seen it in an old Vtech stream (u can find it in uncle walter's channel)

[acoustic osprey]

no

[hallow ruin]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

he did not

[valid sequoia]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-sure-omniman-invincible-meme-gif-14970603868221209304

[lethal moat]

I still need to explore that bunker area

[valid sequoia]

are you sure?

[ornate comet]

Went on an unofficial server, saw gen 2 was unlocked, pressed it, spawned in, pressed left click and fatal errored lol

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/wap-bam-boom-lucifer-hazbin-hotel-lucifer-hazbin-hazbin-gif-9938339605012814021

[hexed forge]

Oh

[forest tapir]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[wispy sundial]

a gate with a way... gateway... is this a the isle evrima branch map refference?

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey
This was pointed out aswell.

Maybe they are scars, maybe not.

If they are though, I hope they aren't a bug..

[polar schooner]

they seem to be scars

[hexed forge]

Hopefully.

[patent ginkgo]

^

I agree they do look like scars

And that they look quite nice

[hexed forge]

Yeah,
Ima put it into my bag of evidence for the Shirley Theory then.

[patent ginkgo]

That’s the theory that all Rexes we play are descended from Shirley, right?

Similar to Augustus

[hexed forge]

Same way/similar to Augustus yes.

[patent ginkgo]

Hmm

Can’t say I agree with it

Personally I think Shirley and dean are early strains

I wouldn’t think that scars existing on a long-growth giant apex carnivore that regularly hunts giant herbivores would be abnormal

[hexed forge]

I do think that their traits were experimented on to support their strain research.

[patent ginkgo]

Maybe

This is more of a personal hunch, but I think the abnormalities present in Shirley and dean weren’t fully intentional

[hexed forge]

Well yeah,
They are anomalies aren't they.
Anomalous behavior such and such

[strange shell]

Um
Scars aren't inherited

[hexed forge]

Replication

Not actual reproduction and the passing down of genetics..

[strange shell]

Ok but juveniles
Also there's nesting

[meager junco]

Agreed

[hexed forge]

yea.. yes...

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

[polar schooner]

damn i haven't played pc:e for 2 years

[fast forge]

it would be weird if it replicated old injuries too, right?

[lethal moat]

Yeah, scarring isn't genetic

[hexed forge]

I'm not sure.

But it's probably a bug.

[fast forge]

could also just be wrinkle lines, or even just uneven distribution of melanin in the skin

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

Or a bug

[hexed forge]

Unfortunately.. might be...

[acoustic osprey]

i'm fine with it

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/briankik-turn-around-hedgehog-mrbond-gif-24320492

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/chipmunk-dramatic-gif-4265641

[acoustic osprey]

huzzah

i think i found it

https://gyazo.com/9ca588c7faeb67fd8bf8359babd05a53

yep
just to confirm

so not a building
but seemingly an engine schematic

Moteur sans-soupape 16HP 4 cylindres - type Panhard & Levassor - Collectif - 0

specifically from a Panhard & Levassor
Which is French

we have france in the isle before glance sheets 😔 lol

[fast forge]

France isn't real

[acoustic osprey]

oh

i forgot!

[fast forge]

it's just a myth, like camelot

or asgard or atlantis or ohio

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-silly-place-holy-grail-gif-14462043

[fast forge]

indeed

[brazen cradle]

So guys. Where do you think the lore comes from for some redesigns?

Like for example, how TSL Galli was mentioned as not eating eggs

Or old Herrera being mentioned by new Herrera's whole video.

What do y'all think for some of the other redesigned animals?
Like Theri, Shant, Acro, Giga, etc.

[median shuttle]

yall notice this in the server bootup screen? seems like EIP related stuff

[hexed forge]

Yeah that's outdated legacy stuff iirc

Vistech image

[hallow ruin]

man i wish i work with him

making isle buildings sounds like the best thing id ever do

[acoustic osprey]

Exactly

[acoustic osprey]

I'll give a comment when I get home
But there is a semi answer to this

[brazen cradle]

I see

[hallow ruin]

hell even rex having increased size got lore for it (Shirley)
im sure these will.

[fast forge]

Discussion topic:
'Why dinosaurs?'

Give me your theories

I personally think climate change is the best answer we've got - creating an ecology that is better adapted to a hotter or post-glacial world

But what are our other prominent theories?

[strange shell]

PETA cannot sue AE over animal abuse on dinosaurs since dinosaurs don't exist

[lethal moat]

Ui update por favor

[brazen cradle]

Find it??

[fast forge]

Okay a comprehensive list of possible (and debunked) theories:

• Climate change amelioration
• Dinos as food
• Dinos as weapons
• Dinos for medical research

Any others?

[lethal moat]

Dinos are not food

[fast forge]

just listing

[lethal moat]

Alright, decent list

[fast forge]

I'm working on a video concept, and just kinda want to cover all of the theories

[lethal moat]

But what about gen 1 and gen 2, we know that gen 1 are certainly a weapon, but I think they have a separate list of parameters

[fast forge]

Yeah I think Gen 1 are made to be weapons, Gen 2 tie into the whole 'functional immortality' thing/selling better bodies to rich people

But those don't really answer 'why dinosaurs?'

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-connected-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-everything-is-related-everything-is-linked-gif-20161060

[fast forge]

probably, but we can guess that dinos happened before Gen 1

and Gen 2 probably happened after Gen 1, just by the naming convention

[lethal moat]

Gen 2 exists because something needs to give hypsi and minmi proper headpats

[fast forge]

I'd love to see it in the game, but I think Dondi would veto it

if not him then someone else on the team

Not the vibe they are going for

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bowser-now-whos-gonna-stop-me-who-will-stop-me-nobody-can-stop-me-the-super-mario-bros-movie-gif-26883013

If both gen 2 and hypsi hold 2, it would be cool

[hexed forge]

He fell asleep

[acoustic osprey]

Asleep
Apologises

[brazen cradle]

Isss allll good

[brazen cradle]

@acoustic osprey

Do we know if Dilo hs ever bee confirmed to get strains?

Like hard confirmation?

Cuz I do remember Don in the past mentioning Dilo strains

[hexed forge]

I hope that every/most dinos have the ability to become a strain.

[brazen cradle]

I don't 💀

[hexed forge]

But why?

[meager junco]

I’m thinking that they’ll probably be around a dozen Dino’s that have the capability of becoming strains
That’s if strains are just carnivore based
If herbivores get it as well
I can see like 20-25 strains dinos

[acoustic osprey]

zilch
nothing on who and what are getting strains as hard confirmations

only thing we know is that herbis can get strains
nothing stopping them

[acoustic osprey]

Redesigns are mentioned as 0.1.2 / 0.1.3 (likely for the case in Allo)

it isn't really a complex answer

but, when the glance sheets came out, either Punch or Don answered, but they refer to any creatures 'remade' as a new version
in-lore

[brazen cradle]

So basically just a different experiment?

[acoustic osprey]

although, we have basically zero clue on whether THE actual 'last/original model' (for galli or allo, etc) are hard canon

or if 0.1.2 is just commemorate what came before (that being legacy and its legacy)
but, in lore, they didn't look like that

[brazen cradle]

Would've just been cool for the redesigned animals to have been from numerous generations rather than, I guess
"We tried x with y animal"

Or am I misunderstanding

[acoustic osprey]

we aren't really sure on that one
only thing we can refer to is the Dibble video

which is a 0.1.2 (Dibble = 0.1.2)
but mentioned to be at F36 (which means 36 generations)

we don't know if that is 36 generations of 0.1.2 (Evrima model)
or 36 generation of Dibbles in general (from legacy model into evrima model)

if that makes any sense

[brazen cradle]

Fair
Fair

[acoustic osprey]

we may get some information on 'what came before'
especially if we see a document on Omniraptor (...mayhaps...)

[brazen cradle]

I just want lore sheets back.

Yes ik they will be found in human structures and all but honestly that could take ages

[acoustic osprey]

EXACTLY!!

we know Don still plans to add new glance sheets around though
but he said it will be the last thing added

that being, either, the last thing for when the HUB at the volcano is finished
... or when the whole of GUTS is finished ...

hopefully not the latter

[hexed forge]

I really doubt its the latter, at least I hope so...

[fast forge]

Anything I forgot?
#isle-lore-theories message

[muted reef]

Some in game lore hunts that give you a file code or password for computers revealing lore around the map would be sick

[acoustic osprey]

Probably also add for scientific (bioengineering) reasons as well

At least, from the get go

Just to stay away from strong ethical dilemmas from the beginning to get funding

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jaja-gif-5735507904982827459

It'd take time for them to be interactive like that

[muted reef]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-the-lore-game-theory-brain-explosion-gif-26749218

[acoustic osprey]

I don't mind if we get something a bit basic like the last lore hunt

[hexed forge]

Same.

[acoustic osprey]

But ... seeing as the last proper lore thingo was ages ago
Maybe we'll be given more!

Who knows

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-two-towers-lord-of-the-rings-aragorn-helm’s-deep-hope-gif-8669068073397169641

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hope-gif-19238353

[acoustic osprey]

Hope also can make a man move!

[fast forge]

ty

[acoustic osprey]

No worries

[hexed forge]

yeah..
So get moving on that AUGUSTUS video!!

[acoustic osprey]

soon...

[brazen cradle]

Cans make a video on Giga instead

[acoustic osprey]

uh oh

[hallow ruin]

no
cerato was mentioned as .2 although he's a V3 actually

but from what i can see, devs treat it as "was there before evrima or not" so .1 or .2 only

[acoustic osprey]

no

there were only two official general models for Ceratosaurus

[hallow ruin]

legacy OG model?

[acoustic osprey]

you're thinking of Allosaurus

[hallow ruin]

progression

[acoustic osprey]

which had three versions

[hallow ruin]

no. ceratosaurus

[acoustic osprey]

there were only two models

https://tenor.com/view/master-yoda-always-two-there-are-gif-20070062

https://youtu.be/oG2dNwR7aeA
a video from progression in 2017

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.discogs.com/release/33723849-The-Isle-Anthony-Casalena-The-Music-of-The-Isle-Audio-Codex-I?redirected=true
woohoo, added the album to the web

done two proper websites that basically are the standard for music cataloguing (discogs being the ebay of the two)

but seeing such just makes me yearn for more

Especially Since Casalena's "Primitives" is missing from the album 😔

which i really enjoy listening to on his website

i love how you can hear the actual 'breathing' (saliva) of the opening instrument

it makes me curious on how developed they want Gen1s to be

however, to be fair, that song could be old.

Who knows what songs were made 5+ years ago and what is actually new new

alas
i found a a better spectrogram app that i want to try

actually allows you to only listen from "X" frequency range

which will help me a lot

ugh nothing of interest

it was more detailed
but still

same results
not like i expected it to show anything different

such is the mental state of a lorecordian

[hexed forge]

Was Beipi mentioned as V1?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[hexed forge]

Alr

[nova knot]

No

No, there are three

The evrima, legacy and Old legacy

I have the Old legacy installed

Unless evrima cerato isnt a New model

Is Very similar to legacy, but i doubt

[hexed forge]

I think it's the same model

[muted hill]

this is the OG one which I think is used for the juvis

[young sphinx]

I’m glad they changed it

[brazen cradle]

Nope

[brazen cradle]

The same model as from Legacy

[polar bramble]

lots of veins

[acoustic osprey]

Hence 2

[hexed forge]

yes

[brazen cradle]

No, Cerato had only one model

The V1 model was never used

Shown off and that's about it

Cera'a model was shown off at around mid 2016, but never added until late 2017/early 2018.

When Cerato was added finally, it had the same model as now. It just had Acro's locomotion slapped onto it

[acoustic osprey]

and so 0.1.2 technically makes sense for Cerato

and, heck, even then

we don't know if 0.1.2 is a reference to Legacy rather than 'past models'
as in

a commemoration that "X" dinosaur was in legacy
(of course, this is all, generally, out of lore stuff)

Legacy would, technically, not exist in Evrima lore
all just being a way to keep an in-house record of "was X dinosaur in legacy?"
rather than how many model iterations have we made

or it could be vice versa

we'll have to see with the new glance sheets
once they come in... that is...

[hexed forge]

Rex would be V3 or V2?
Im guessing V2?

[acoustic osprey]

technically 3
if you include TSL Rex

[hexed forge]

TSL Rex and then Legacy Rex,
But then maybe Evrima Rex counts as another..

[hexed forge]

Wasn't it just TSL Rex and Normal Rex

[acoustic osprey]

i cannot recall if there are touch ups

[hexed forge]

I mean,

It's bigger lol

[acoustic osprey]

TSL was first iirc
but i'll double check

[hexed forge]

Not weight-wise

The actual model is bigger

Tamim compared the two.

But Im guessing Dondi would just make it V2

[acoustic osprey]

even then
it still was the Rex model

[acoustic osprey]

mayhaps

but are there actual model differences though?

would touch ups (Not scaling, actual touch ups) count?

touch ups: 1, 2, 3 and 4!

[acoustic osprey]

as in being deemed worthy of a 0.1.2 ?

if anything
there might be three

0.1.1
0.2.1
0.2.2

but then again, we didn't get that for Galli
only 0.1.1 (naturally) and 0.1.2

clearly big changes must occur for the lowest digit to change

[hexed forge]

Yeah honestly I think Don might just be counting the Evrima counterpart vs the Legacy counterpart rather than Model vs model

[acoustic osprey]

it might be

but i do want to know, at least in lore, what counts as a change anyways
however, i got a feeling it might never be explored

to the extent of the Dibble video, that is

but never really broken down to us

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bHkUv.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/garn47-car-garn47-car-garn-gif-8690760083677225756

[lethal moat]

Damn the monkey paw, give us a filing cabinet of lore papers

[pseudo lantern]

[harsh slate]

car isn't doing too well lol

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

i wonder how many pages Don is on now
I doubt he has done a lot more
due to map work and the issue with DMCA

but...

[lethal moat]

Inquiring minds are curious

[acoustic osprey]

can never stop
maybe it is a bad thing

how many questions till it just becomes annoying
it is ironic i ask this though

because i am the one always asking
so i come to the point, that i am asking about my asking

[lethal moat]

I've asked less direct questions recently because of that

[acoustic osprey]

same, at times

[harsh slate]

and tbh anything new is nice to have

[acoustic osprey]

maybe i'm 50/50 on it
I almost never ask game questions, from what i recall. It is not my thing.
So i stick to what i like the most

lore

but even then
maybe i am more direct at times
however, i do suppose, I like asking rhetorically
subtextually, though, I always wish Don could answer everything
which is against what I should be doing, as someone who kinda despises (lack of a better term) overly knowing things in the context of 'lore' - something made big in the last 10 years due to Game Theory and the many channels based off after it
but even then, I cannot complain about such. Because I do the same, I suppose.

Ugh, the dilemma

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/just-a-theory-matpat-fnaf-movie-matthew-robert-patrick-gif-8650789653163891524

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/briankik-turn-around-hedgehog-mrbond-gif-24320492

Im guessing we'll get a Rex and Trike glance sheet to follow the hype

[low scarab]

I guess this too

[brazen cradle]

We didn't even get any for Dibble, Dilo or Herrera.
Doubt we'll get one for those two

[acoustic osprey]

we do know more exist
and Dibble got a video on itself

[hexed forge]

We know they've made more

[acoustic osprey]

we just have to wait for the Volcano HUB to finish...

hopefully not the whole of GUTS

[hexed forge]

Definitely not the entirety of GUTS.
Unless Don REALLY wants the lore to come last in development...

[acoustic osprey]

yeah...

all good things come to those who wait, though

[brazen cradle]

I just rather we get phase 3 again

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
not really related tbf

[pseudo lantern]

patience is a virtue
they say

[acoustic osprey]

as much as lore is related to P3

P3 seems far more just what Don and Punch feel like we deserve and what they feel like should be shown, as a whole

[hexed forge]

But where's the fun in that?

[acoustic osprey]

show something too early
and it causes uproar

[hexed forge]

CAMERAS

[acoustic osprey]

show something too late and no one like it
it causes uproar

show anything developmental, whether close to being finished or early
causes uproar

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-haircut-cat-haircut-barber-shop-kitten-gif-4694377460713789317

[pseudo lantern]

Isaac found his new favourite gif

[hexed forge]

Cat getting a fresh haircut.

[acoustic osprey]

cat

[brazen cradle]

Nah just gimme elder giga then everyone will be happy 🥰

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/grey-cat-cry-gif-2840808548593801720

[hexed forge]

I am surprised that we didn't get a new roadmap yet...

[acoustic osprey]

same

but we got Isle ALBUM WOO

[pseudo lantern]

YAY

[pseudo lantern]

after the horsetest.. trust

[acoustic osprey]

Don
somehow i need you to send me every WAV file of The Isle OST
I need it all

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1192975193241559040/1356420617255125002/svuuwqZA.gif

[acoustic osprey]

i am excited
I hope Codex II is around the corner

even if it is just more Anthony stuff!

[hexed forge]

This soon..?

[acoustic osprey]

why not!!

[hexed forge]

ITS TOO SOON ISAAC

[pseudo lantern]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859369469482631168/1174008360723546122/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[acoustic osprey]

we know there are more things that, like shown in Don streams, we have never been officially shown/given (in-game especially) yet

because Codex I is basically almost every legacy OST track

with some new ones

[hexed forge]

Like music?

[acoustic osprey]

yeah... i am referring to music

[hexed forge]

Are you sure tho...

[acoustic osprey]

realistically, I wouldn't imagine it being harder to publish more
It takes a week using standard publishing sites

[acoustic osprey]

i mean

iirc, Don said there are way more than we know
and we know there were things not put into Codex I that actually exist
like some of the 'new' (old now) Evrima tracks. Like the morse one
lots of Dmitrii stuff as well
alongside tons of unseen Patrick stuff

all, presumably, owned under Afterthought LLC
(but that depends on how they were comissioned. I presume they would own the finalised WAVs and any official alt mixes and masters made on contract)

iirc, Don said there are way more than we know
this coming from a few streams back
around a bit less than a year ago

[hexed forge]

Oh I see,

But I still doubt we will get a Codex II this soon... at least a year maybe...

[acoustic osprey]

i hope to see one early next year
or end of the year

the name Codex I at least infers they mean for more
I JUST GOTTA HOPE

i wish they could officially distribute the music
but how expensive that would be to do

[hexed forge]

Codex II for the 10th anniversary.

[acoustic osprey]

that would be cool

[hexed forge]

Gen2 full release for the 10th anniversary !!

After 10 years.. they are finally PROPERLY in the game... maybe..

[acoustic osprey]

a good dream

[hexed forge]

thanks...

[acoustic osprey]

realistically, who knows when they'll be able to organise the next Codex
but Codex I was great
i think i almost have 1000 plays now
(about 20 or so plays of the album itself)

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/no-biggie-steve-a-minecraft-movie-don't-worry-about-it-jack-black-gif-375398176403622926

[hexed forge]

Why do you listen to it so much..

[acoustic osprey]

i love ambient tracks

i have a whole medieval playlist of ambient tracks (from games like Skyrim to KCD)

but i added the exploration tracks to it
because, albeit not medieval, all those tracks are really nicely ambient

[hexed forge]

Yeah it's pretty great

[acoustic osprey]

wowza
it is my 4th most listened to album LOL

but it is great, woohoo

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/원숭이-손-내밀기-악수-줘-gif-9669458

[acoustic osprey]

^

[hallow ruin]

since when did dyno have this name

[acoustic osprey]

ages ago

[patent ginkgo]

Lineage displacement is such an awesome song

You can feel the story in it

[ornate comet]

Raid boss type song

[rigid tartan]

Why do I hear Latin music?

[fresh pulsar]

If you only knew...

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/shaq-gif-26872610

[harsh slate]

<@&933486433342222376>

[plush widget]

<@&933486433342222376>

almost pressed it by accident

[neon wolf]

discord hid that thing on me. that was a pain

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jaja-gif-5735507904982827459

[fast forge]

<@&401466542140817419> <@&933486433342222376>

ty

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-triste-com-sono-bocejando-cansado-gif-2295619231831500370

[civic wren]

is there a place to find ALL the isle lore in a video explaining it all?

[weary bison]

rumple has a podcast where he explains it I think

[quartz sundial]

no way, an isle lore podcast

i gotta listen to it

[lethal moat]

I really need to make another episode for that, we haven’t done one since before the reaper concept

[civic wren]

What are the dinosaurs in the isle?

[lethal moat]

An affront to god, why do you ask

[civic wren]

I remember someone saying they are creations from some machine but i dont know any more

and they have some sort of dark purpose

[lethal moat]

The replicator, yeah, there’s a google document in the pinned comments that explains the basics reasonably well

[civic wren]

what about the loading screen messages?

what do they say again?

something about death being a loop or something

[lethal moat]

Likely outdated with legacy stuff, but what you’re referencing is EIPs, the consciousness inside the dinosaurs live multiple lives over and over

[civic wren]

the lore to this game is soo confusing

[lethal moat]

Yup

[civic wren]

it was something really dark and it stuck with me, is there a place to find exactly what the loading screen says?

i was just looking at your document its quite handy

[lethal moat]

There’s other documents in the pinned comments that have those as well

[civic wren]

ah okay

what do you think the darkest thing is about the lore?

[lethal moat]

Thousand life contract
Or
The how casually AE seems to use the replicator

[civic wren]

can you please tell me more about both?

[lethal moat]

Thousand life contract: Selling your consciousness to be put i to dinosaurs and killed over and over

The second: The replicator is used to create life, and AE seems to waste a lot of that life using the excuse of progress, which can be extremely dangerous

[fast forge]

This is a good video from Lightclaw

https://youtu.be/hrIu_rZOiJk?si=CiUMBNSv2KdHIBpj

[quartz sundial]

<@&933486433342222376> kill

❤️

[civic wren]

i was just thinking, the select screen where you select herbivore, carnivore, omnivore, generation 1 and generation two. is that the replicator?

[fast forge]

We think it might be somewhat related, yes, but we don't know for sure or to what extent. We know that the current UI is kinda old and so we don't know how much of it is canon. Devs have previewed an updated version of the UI that is in development, so we are still kinda waiting

The devblog that talked about the new UI can be found here
#announcements message

https://youtu.be/ZvMRSrZXPKU?si=3QH-Pp0yqFtmzGX8

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/grey-cat-cry-gif-2840808548593801720

[acoustic osprey]

if anything
more so, likely, to have been related to you

this is, if we look back at legacy
where this UI stems from

however, we can suppose you still select your characters (as seen in one of the dblogs)

albeit, Legacy's lore had a big focus of everything in-game having an in-lore selection

in Evrima? Seems a lot less so- albeit we cannot be so certain. But, for me, I won't exactly comment on what it could mean for Evrima lore; as it may just be nothing. Evrima does not need to have in-game = in-lore

[acoustic osprey]

that being
YOU, the ||steam|| profile (the conscious mind), selecting the dinosaur

however, how much choice did the profile (called EIPs) have with what it could be?
Who knows...

[acoustic osprey]

was just reminded how long ago this was... October lol

[hexed forge]

Wow

[civic wren]

i might be thinking too far.. but what is the server select background? it looks very strange like some machinery. and theres a blood splatter and a caution sign? what is it?

[hallow ruin]

spown menu is more interesting to me

i think this one kinda means replicator? not sure about server select tho

[merry zodiac]

Dont fixate too much on it for now… the new UI comes soontm

[acoustic osprey]

some sort of CRT

[hexed forge]

I am sharing this work of art made by Hacker.

It's a masterpiece.

Honestly at this point just make Alex Jones Canon to the lore and make us find an audio tape of this exact clip.

[acoustic osprey]

yes
you should see my spiel about it ... in lore conversation in lorecord

[hexed forge]

Oh okay

[acoustic osprey]

wohooo

it is 9 minutes long

[hexed forge]

I listened to it

[fast forge]

REPENT!
THE AGE OF MAN-MADE GODS IS NIGH!!!

WE HAVE SEEN THEIR MACHINE GOD AND IT IS VILE

A GOD BEYOND MORALITY CREATING AND DESTROYING WITH WANTON ABANDON

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-plane-crash-blows-gif-14379806619351584503

[fast forge]

AND WHAT ROUGH BEAST, ITS HOUR COME ROUND AT LAST

SLOUCHES TOWARD BETHLEHEM TO BE BORN?

[hexed forge]

thanks

[lethal moat]

Bogemian grove was actually gateway

It all makes sense

[gaunt dawn]

Isla velada

[acoustic osprey]

oh no

[fast forge]

oh yes

[lethal moat]

Alright yall, I’m bored so it’s time to get into hypotheticals
What do you guys think the transistor is for

[tropic saddle]

I would take a guess but idek what the transistor is or what that referrs too.

[lethal moat]

We’ve got a label on a map and an ancient gateway concept

It’s that stick like thing in the bottom left

We haven’t looked at this in forever

[tropic saddle]

I was gonna say waht in the world map am I looking at it looks like gateway but it also doesnt.

So it's a facility?

[lethal moat]

Maybe?

[acoustic osprey]

so many possibilities
especially since it could be quite literal or more figurative

[tropic saddle]

Honestly yeah there's not alot to go off of other than a upside down Y and that it looks to be next to a weird facility that sorta resembles a airstrip?

I would imagine it means a antenna of sorts but thats my theory

[fast forge]

I still think it's an undersea power cable, transmitting excess power from Gateway's geothermal plant to the other islands

[lethal moat]

My cursory google search says transistors can act as an amplifier or a switch, maybe it’s where AE inputs changes to what the replicator should be doing?

Or it’s where they receive their Giant Krab TM shipments

[acoustic osprey]

just for reference

[lethal moat]

Tower

[acoustic osprey]

the map that Don showed with all those areas are likely 100% (maybe 95%) seemingly all the areas from the leaked map. From the old messages Cerato sent, they do match up

[lethal moat]

Flooded visitor center

[acoustic osprey]

even that exists.
Just without any swamp in the leak

i do wonder if Don will ever talk about it in the future
albeit, being it was a leak, NDA would be a bit weird for him
when talking about unreleased concepts like that

maybe we'll find out one day

maybe when the isle lore finishes, we may get a ΑΩ USB of some sort

[fast forge]

it's interesting that this area got a rework, but there's kinda nothing visible that might relate to the transistor

[acoustic osprey]

the beginning and the end of the isle lore, in our finger tips

[acoustic osprey]

yea
besides that it is a bit more open? But, to be fair. There still is a ton of shrubbery and the cliffs are more extreme i suppose

[fast forge]

Yeah and the transistor exists somewhat independently from the surrounding terrain, they can probably leave a section kinda blank and just slap it down

[acoustic osprey]

potentially
If only we knew what it would do, the transistor that is

[lethal moat]

Dawndi please, lorecord is starving

[fast forge]

hyperendocrin langostino lobster

(langostino is another shellfish commonly used as a crab/lobster substitute)

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dying-hungry-and-thirsty-gif-23833941

[hexed forge]

Something to do with power/electricity is the popular theory still right?

[fast forge]

Typically transistors involve electricity, so yeah probably

#isle-lore-theories message

Turns out there's one of these shore stations in my state

It's uh, not exactly impressive looking

[acoustic osprey]

most electrical engineers just want to leave

nothing fancy when it comes to that stuff
over complicates everything

even in a theatre

we have a giant black box (light)
we get the cable into a light mixer/DMX Controller
and bingo bongo

[fast forge]

Yeah I saw this local facility only requires two regular workers for maintenance

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, i think that goes for most industries...

[acoustic osprey]

yea

i just want to know what it was going to do!!

[hexed forge]

Yup

[bright shoal]

Literally i think its for its IRl purpose just on a massive scale.

[fast forge]

I wonder if AE actually has a higher level of tech relative to the real world over the same period of time

That is, were their supercomputers in the 90's more powerful than our supercomputers in the 90's?

I had always assumed so, and just generally left the topic in the realm of "it's sci-fi, don't worry about it"

Now I wonder, did they just brute force create AI with 90's tech? A whole island of those 1980's cray supercomputers like were mentioned in Jurassic Park

[bright shoal]

Do we know what Tarturus is exactly?

[fast forge]

A holding facility/information storage, physical or digital or both

[bright shoal]

i feel like it may look more 90s but i do feel like to make lore and stuff work they had to have had better tech than IRL 90s tech.

[acoustic osprey]

And or creation facility

[bright shoal]

I was thinking about it and wonder if its the name given to like a giant data server.

[fast forge]

we've considered that, I forget where we landed

[acoustic osprey]

that is, because it relatively infers it with AUGUSTUS
and maybe with the Dibble video... but...

the dibble video just says the name
but AUGUSTUS is more evident

[bright shoal]

ahh im on Ep. 8 of podcast, bit behind but trying to catch up.

[fast forge]

Yeah, Tartarus relocation is certainly phrased like a threat at times

[acoustic osprey]

not that

[acoustic osprey]

more so talking just about the videos sent by Isle

[fast forge]

Oh yeah in the case of Augustus it was more like storage

[acoustic osprey]

kinda
the text 'additional replications remain in Tartarus' seem to me either they're holding replications in Tartarus

but at the same time
why were they in there?

[bright shoal]

i feel like character selection screen is us going through tarturus to choose what replication we want to use

[acoustic osprey]

if anything, i see it as it is those additional (and the rest) replications were made in Tartarus

[bright shoal]

and thats why it looks like a PC?

[acoustic osprey]

that is
IF in-game aspects like that still correlate with the in-lore

which was the case in legacy

[bright shoal]

Yeah i wonder if the New UI will change that. or reinforce it more possibly?

[acoustic osprey]

as basically every gameplay aspect had an in-lore correlation

[fast forge]

it fits, but we can't say for sure

[acoustic osprey]

mayhaps
we shall certainly see

[fast forge]

Referring back to this question, I think in terms of story it's more interesting if AE's tech is a bit anomalous relative to the real world

[acoustic osprey]

i see it, potentially, they just put more money in a different aisle
that being, bio-engineering

[fast forge]

The mystery makes it interesting

[acoustic osprey]

who knows, maybe they lack something that we may consider an easy luxury in our universe/timeline

because they went down "X" different route

[fast forge]

They certainly had to have had better genetic engineering capabilities earlier than in the real world

[bright shoal]

as a 90s kid, yes very intersting.

[acoustic osprey]

i wish some of the assets in Gateway were kept in the one era though
Flatscreen TVs everywhere, but with 4k CRT and weird (iirc, modern) AC cords for them with modern PC towers

especially since all of those assets, specifically, are done by VisualTech as well lol

maybe in the future they'll be moved and edited
As we know future maps/islands could be in different 'timeperiods' (iirc)

or Gateway just really never let go of the late 80s and 90s

[fast forge]

I could see a universe where the double helix structure of DNA was discovered during World War II instead of the 1950's, giving all of genetic engineering a nearly 20-year headstart

[acoustic osprey]

WHICH IS WHY THEY FELL!!

[acoustic osprey]

don't wanna say (but i have to because ww2) but boosted by a n*zi headstart as well, quite likely
they may have definitely 'boosted' production during WWII

[fast forge]

I was thinking the same thing

[acoustic osprey]

it is not out of the scope of their ideology
just, VERY VERY simplistic and way more extreme towards their own belief tenets

[hexed forge]

I would like to think that there was a shift in the timeline that caused technology to develop faster/earlier than in our universe.

[acoustic osprey]

i would be careful with saying the 'technology' word

as a broad term

technology encompasses a lot of things

one does not simply boost technology as an overall
even the industrial revolution didn't do that

realistically, only boosting the fields it focused around (production)

and industries related to such
like transport

[fast forge]

nah man it's like playing Civ, don't you know?

[acoustic osprey]

albeit, transport was kinda the reason why that revolution happened

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-plane-crash-blows-gif-14379806619351584503

but i understand what you're saying
however, i feel like more in the genetic/bio-engineering field (and similar)

maybe other loosely related fields as well

[fast forge]

To be honest (and correct myself) broad funding of the sciences is extremely beneficial to a country, and even seemingly unimportant research can yield important results

[bright shoal]

computer technology defintely had to of gotten a boost somehow

[fast forge]

But yes I do agree that it might be that they focused on different types of tech than our own timeline

[acoustic osprey]

i cannot disagree
even in the field of research for Uni

I have found seemingly unrelated papers actually being really fascinating in relatively unrelated fields as to what I am writing in

how much things actually connect to other things is like a real spider web
a real complexity theory theory

[hexed forge]

True,
So here's the question. Would more wars boost the production of "technology" or do the opposite, or vice versa?
I feel like wars have a really huge impact on the production of technology and new inventions, so perhaps that could've effected something in AEs universe?

[acoustic osprey]

typically, from what we see in human history, complications and tensions usually lead to technological advancements of society

[fast forge]

What if the cold war never happened? Like that's a wildly different timeline

[acoustic osprey]

having no space race would be crazy

instead of focusing up above
maybe we focus on whats inside

[hexed forge]

Indeed

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/if-you-don't-rock-and-stone-you-ain't-comin'-home-deep-rock-galactic-rock-and-stone-run-ganondorf-gif-6106180493101324670

GO TO THE MINES AND FIND THE DIAMONDS

[fast forge]

Imagine instead of the United States' space-obsessed culture of the 1960's, it was instead focused on biology or other sciences?

[hexed forge]

Also we have to keep in mind that there was an event that strongly affected the environment.. I think?

Perhaps the nuclear bomb was used more?

[acoustic osprey]

it could honestly happen
Instead of turning into a nation vs nation
it may be humanity vs nature
company vs company?

if it is company vs company, sort of situation, maybe we're in a world where the soviets lost completely

[acoustic osprey]

or we're in a world where capitalism is way more extreme
therefore way more earth-exhausting

which may kick into climate issues faster and earlier

[fast forge]

Oh yeah I like that line of logic

[acoustic osprey]

late late stage capitalism
it is so over 😔

[fast forge]

Maybe they didn't even have the 80's/90's environmentalism movements

[acoustic osprey]

makes sense
moved too fast for it

until now

[hexed forge]

Maybe

[acoustic osprey]

where such movements are the desperate attempts of companies trying to fix the world

[fast forge]

We know that AE is this massive company. That certainly doesn't sound like part of a communist utopia, or any other alternative global structuring

[acoustic osprey]

why is AE doing this though? a company with no specific country of origin, seemingly
do we live in a more anarchical society? where governments are practically just figure heads
with minimal to no authoritarian power

[acoustic osprey]

it could make sense
we just need to see the outside world or something akin to some good old worldbuilding

[hexed forge]

Indeed

[acoustic osprey]

i suppose we don't NEED to see it
like we don't need to see valyria

But having something(s) ||maybe stuff that we put together via different lore thingos|| that would indicate to such

[hexed forge]

More like something describing the outside world slightly.

Could be some papers "Showing" how AE does business.

[hexed forge]

yes

[fast forge]

I'll admit, the idea of a corporatocracy does fit our knowledge of the situation quite well

It would explain to some degree how this company can just do these things with little oversight, and have the capital to back it up

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[bright shoal]

in world lore newspapers/news casts replaying on tvs, in world AE paperwork/files, i hope human gameplay comes soon and expands on lore a lot.

[fast forge]

on the topic of capital, this really is a ridiculous amount of money, only considering Gateway

and AE is just a subsidiary of a larger corporation

Like what is the cost of the hexadome alone?

Massive

[acoustic osprey]

has to be A LOT

[bright shoal]

and the materials to build it. UNLESS they are able to also replicate materials.

[acoustic osprey]

so so much concrete

[bright shoal]

https://tenor.com/view/cover-that-shit-with-concrete-number-five-the-umbrella-academy-keep-it-a-secret-forever-aidan-gallagher-gif-9182838708082006422

[hexed forge]

What if we were all fooled and we actually live in an advanced communist world (AEs Universe)

[bright shoal]

and life is just a simulation.

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/andrew-horowitz-sketches-3d-daisy-fingers-somewhere-in-the-world-gif-6303901440078581592

FIND THE ISLAND

[hexed forge]

Find Laughtale

[acoustic osprey]

hello comrade

[ornate comet]

I want to see man made horrors beyond my comprehension and also a baby dryo

Worth the risk

[bright shoal]

do we not have baby dryo already?

[ornate comet]

Talking about irl lol

[bright shoal]

OH lol

[acoustic osprey]

Definitely
I really hope they start fixing the marketplace assets to have either proper lore-ish worldbuilding
or Visual/a new hired dev (to do that) could replace all documents with new models that would reflect isle worldbuilding

IF anything
I just hope they bump up the resolution for the models

because you cannot read most models in-game right now

[bright shoal]

I defintely agree

[acoustic osprey]

Why add if you cannot read what is given

[tropic saddle]

Resolution is hard to do for open world games.
too high and too many of 2048 can cause some perfomance issues

[acoustic osprey]

just make it more of a LOD if anything

[tropic saddle]

That's not the same thing

[echo gazelle]

make it all in binary

[acoustic osprey]

you don't need a high resolution model from afar

[tropic saddle]

materials have their own drawcalls

and lod's use the same material you're just adding more drawcalls by giving a lod a specific material

[acoustic osprey]

would it not be possible to make it readable just from a close distance

[tropic saddle]

It wouldnt be worth the resources.
usually it comes down to good uv mapping

[acoustic osprey]

none of the textures are high quality actually, if that counts

as in, in the files

[tropic saddle]

Kinda have to be, game cant run with 4k textures
take a look at Fallout 4 for example

[acoustic osprey]

we don't really need 4k though

just readable

[tropic saddle]

it's probably sitting at 1024x1024 for whatever prop you're referencing too

[acoustic osprey]

i can have a look
but pre-rendered, they are madly compressed images out of game

[tropic saddle]

Also I apologize I was wrong, You can have material specific LOD's it's just still more resource intensive.

[acoustic osprey]

would it only be resource intensive when up close

[tropic saddle]

Probably, Idk I haven't stress tested the limits of ue5 quite yet

[acoustic osprey]

i see

well
I do hope they look into this then

#isle-lore-theories message

prior to adding new documents

especially seeing as the glance sheets are relatively soon

[tropic saddle]

Im eventuallly gonna try my hand at joining the team, but gotta build my portfolio first.

[acoustic osprey]

of course, good luck
if you don't know already, they have their email for stuff like that posted in their Twitter

do you do hard surface stuff?
or just general, etc

i would love for another hard surface dev on team
imo, they are using too many marketplace assets

albeit, i understand why
just personally, i dislike such

[tropic saddle]

Im fairly knowledgable in alot, but im mainly focusing on Hard-Surface Enviroment Design esc stuff.

[acoustic osprey]

WOOHOO

anything in particular? Guns, buildings, anything properly human-related? Or just all of the above with hard surface

[tropic saddle]

all of the above not so much guns

[hexed forge]

This is where the reading mutation enters

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

reading mutation for Gen2s
actually...

[hexed forge]

why...

[acoustic osprey]

do Gen2s know how to read?

[hexed forge]

I wouldn't understand why they wouldn't be able to read.

[acoustic osprey]

makes me curious
on how they are 'brought up' if at all

[acoustic osprey]

i don't know
we can't presume to correlate EIPs -> Gen2s
because we just don't know

we don't even know how the mind changes and affects EIPs
what do EIPs know? remember?

how do they think? do they think (like us)

[hexed forge]

I mean, we are at least pretty confident that Gen2s primary work is to do tasks and field missions for AE right?
They would need a basic understanding of text for that imo.