isle-lore-theories

[icy onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1006759693110222848/1322740491581915306/IMG_1682.gif

[fallow harbor]

when was the last stream?

the one where he went around with juvie rex a bit?

[lethal moat]

I think so?

[hexed forge]

yes

[hexed forge]

I got the entire stream if you are interested in watching it.

[fallow harbor]

sure

[hexed forge]

yup

[fast forge]

Troodon

[plush widget]

may i?

[late escarp]

not that channel lol

[lethal moat]

We have the rex roaring, and know of two named rexes, but that video with the dibbles and the one in game with the maia are all we have

[late escarp]

thanks

[lofty swallow]

Wait we actually have a roar clip? is it different from legacy

[lofty swallow]

holy

the paleo one is insane

can't hear the normal one too well but that's also cool

[spiral elbow]

that 90s one

[patent ginkgo]

They’re both top of the line

For some reason good sound design in this game always makes me think of it as “crunchy”, and these are some of the crunchiest sounds we’ll be getting I think.

[hallow ruin]

question that i wanna start a conversation with, and really need an actual answer for. :
we know "the contract", we know its 1000 lives, we know its by repeating life cycles, but, we dont know the start ||nor the end, but its not my interest now||

how do we think it starts? u assign a paper? ok but why? and mainly how would u start? will u copy ur EIP/awareness/consciousness? or taking the original one and dropping it in the machine leaving u like a dead body? or putting your physical self in a machine/vat?

[fast forge]

We don't even know if it's successive in the sense that there is a continuous line for a single consciousness
What if it's a brainscan of you, you keep on working in your job in the company, and they use that brainscan to download into other things?
Like giving your the rights to your likeness for generative AI "art"

Or both? They can kill your current body, and the only extant "you" is stuck in a dryosaur somewhere, running from a carno

Perhaps as punishment

[wet stream]

This is not what I expected when opening this channel for the first time.

[low scarab]

I think it involves apollo making you invincible to some degree promising you eternal life in the perfect body but your forced to be tested in the bodies of hundreds/thousands of other animals that they torture mutate or otherwise suffer on the island until they have served their time

[hexed forge]

I think it starts with your consciousness being transitioned into a gen2 body at first. I believe AE would give some context/knowledge on this EIP process before they start their first tasks as an EIP. So basically like taking a mini-bootcamp .
To get the contract, I think you would actually need to have worked in AE for a bit before getting that choice. But thats just my personal theory.

Also, the original body would be completely scrapped imo.

If not, probably kept in vats.

TOMB?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/tony-stark-eyeglass-exellent-question-gif-12818139

[patent ginkgo]

Honestly?

https://tenor.com/view/theworldmayneverknow-idk-goodquestion-gif-5415227

I suspect it will be left untold

[fast forge]

I agree with like all of this

[hexed forge]

yay

[lethal moat]

Imagine if we are able to communicate somehow with an EIP or something similar in a computer in game, or really just learn about lore from some sort of npc, even the replicator itself giving information

[patent ginkgo]

Global chat

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[hexed forge]

Access every single computer on the map to get some minor details about the lore at each computer. Elden ring reference- Everything is an elden ring reference

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-ill-take-your-entire-stock-thats-mine-gif-13637000

[deep dust]

Curiously is the main menue computer located anywhere on the island?

[hexed forge]

No.

[sonic burrow]

Where can I read on the lore of the Isle in its entirety?

[hexed forge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit?tab=t.0

This is all we know so far.

[sonic burrow]

Thank you!!

[quartz sundial]

i needed this also

[hexed forge]

No problem.

[lofty swallow]

loer

[muted reef]

Different keycards found in GUTS required for each one

[hallow ruin]

that specifically has something to extend on
its case no.1 : that as i said, you get ur brain/awareness copied to an EIP
but
if its case no.2 : your awareness is transferred and completely ripped off you to the EIP, and then ur stuck as a dryo running of a carno as u said..

does this make you :
1- some sort of "a base structure" or "an instinct" that supports the brain of that dryo and builds up with life cycles
2- you are actually in the case of "my body is a cage" in a form that you're aware of? maybe at some point u realize ur not a dryo, ur John.C 23 years old guy from south africa that came over looking for money?

• tho there is a 3rd case that is personally my opinion, its actually a part of case 2, its that, u act as example 1 the whole life of ur EIP, being unaware of anything abnormal like that, but the problem is when u die -> spown again, this void, or gab, is where your consciousness be somewhat alive again, u realize, you remember, you suffer mentally but- you get injected again and u dont remember it, but you do next life, and so on.

[hallow ruin]

welcome to the isle lore my friend

[hallow ruin]

remember legacy logs type thing? that scared scientist(?) contacting replicator(?)
imagine if we can access and enable an EIP, and get it talking in the state i said above of being in the void of awareness, either having a mental breakdown in that convo or telling you lore it got to know or- a lot of possiblities.

[lofty swallow]

loer

[spiral elbow]

I’m excited to go down this rabbit hole now, thanks. It’s time lol

[fast forge]

feel free to ask any questions you might have in here

[hexed forge]

If you have any questions you can ask here. 🙂

[spiral elbow]

Loving the detail in here

The concept of the thousand-life contract is scary

EIPs are a consciousness? Transferred to a dinosaur or gen 1/2 asset? What happens when the asset dies?

IS LORE SAD???

I love this

[hexed forge]

The consiousness is kept in a database, potentially TOMB. If the asset dies, nothing happens to the consciousness. Its just another normal thing for the EIP. It probably gets transferred to another asset for more testing.

[hexed forge]

I mean, Don hinted at relationships between gen2.

( I think, I dont remember the exact quote)

[spiral elbow]

Oh, so like being forced to live a life again and again and again and again? I love that

[hexed forge]

Yes, for a thousand lives.

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-stanley-parable-game-the-end-is-never-the-end-loop-ultra-deluxe-gif-23996323

[lofty swallow]

<@&933486433342222376>

thanks mods

[low scarab]

guts...

[lethal moat]

Intestines…

[lofty swallow]

Lungs...

[hexed forge]

Liver..

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/extraterrestrial-creature-symbiote-eyes-nose-pancreas-beast-monster-gif-12368792

[lofty swallow]

So many snacks.. So little time...

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

Oh no, a new sticker.

[lofty swallow]

[civic ice]

Yes, new sticker! Don't spam it! 🗞️

[muted reef]

Whats that from

[hexed forge]

The Isle.

Old Legacy Rex.

[patent ginkgo]

Gonna spam it

[lethal moat]

[patent ginkgo]

I just had the most stressful time setting up a misting system for my vivarium, so this is more a threat than you know

[lethal moat]

Ha

[fierce cradle]

What if the game is setup in a apolacuptic world ?

Apocalyptic

[lethal moat]

Well maybe, but possibly not, but also maybe

Global warming is relevant

[zenith frigate]

-# maybe

[lofty swallow]

"But what if, for whatever reason.. the earth got a little bit warmer..?"

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bill-nye-world-on-fire-john-oliver-global-warming-gif-14132229

[lofty swallow]

CBI breakout in dinosaurs

[spark egret]

is this the current rex model?👀

[lofty swallow]

Old Legacy

[dawn gust]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-kaperoo-beipiaosaurus-evrima-the-isle-evrima-gif-25777401

What's the lore behind the name of smorgasborg II?

[fast forge]

I don't know but I've also seen 'Strasbourg 2'

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-kaperoo-ceratosaurus-the-isle-evrima-strasbourg-gif-5973655539315551276

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/brooklyn99-brooklyn-nine-nine-b99-terry-crews-terry-jeffords-gif-13703698

[plain hound]

Is out the spawn code with friends? No? Come back tomorrow.

[patent ginkgo]

Ok I’ll come back tomorrow

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/exterminador-do-futuro-gif-20118743

[mental halo]

https://tenor.com/view/beipiaosaurus-beipi-kaperoo-the-isle-evrima-gif-25100385

[lofty swallow]

bay-uh-pee

[fast forge]

Bey-pyow

Bay-pyow-sore-us

[median shuttle]

By-Pee-Ow-Sore-Us

[fast forge]

on-toe-jen-et-ick nee-sh par-tish-uh-neeng

[lofty swallow]

loer

[hexed forge]

Thank you all

[snow jasper]

Noo, dont leave

[rare wadi]

the interiors to the docks have been analysed right, all the calendars and post-it notes on the walls?

[lethal moat]

Pretty much all of it is currently marketplace assets

[rare wadi]

Really:?

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[bronze sinew]

guys can i get a summary pls i dont want to use 5 bussines days just to read it all

[lethal moat]

Company makes dinosaurs, artificial humans, and weapons that look vaguely similar to humans for currently unknown reasons

[bronze sinew]

thanks

[bronze sinew]

i really like the idea i watched many videos but i i dont understand the lore. theres no video like a summary about the lore but the only things that i know that it is really complext

[lethal moat]

We don’t know all of it yet, this is what we know: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[bronze sinew]

thanks

[icy onyx]

the doc😍 🥵 🔥

[dawn gust]

Micheal

[fast forge]

Lightclaw is a good youtube channel for this

[bronze sinew]

thanks

[regal horizon]

Anyone got theories about @icy onyx changing his pfp and don't say marvel rivals

Actually, is that even spiderman?

[icy onyx]

I have one

But its not relevant to the isles lore😌

[regal horizon]

Damn, to bad this channel isn't called islelore-theories

[hexed forge]

🐟

[lofty swallow]

loer

[rich goblet]

A theory about the T Rex was that it had such rancid teeth from rotten meat that all they had to do was bite their prey and they would die from infections in hours and days to come

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bender-futurama-neat-wow-gif-5744318

[meager junco]

Iirc, scientist believe Rex was like a shark and replaced its teeth very quickly

So it would have a pretty healthy smile

[fast forge]

not quite as extreme as a shark

Hadrosaur teeth were actually kinda like a shark, with repeating self-replacing rows of teeth that come up along the inside of the jaw

[meager junco]

Prob more like crocodiles then?

Unless their teeth grow even quicker

[fast forge]

yeah

[buoyant cobalt]

Wait what's an EIP?!

[lethal moat]

Embryo Intelligence Profile, basically the consciousness that controls dinos from our current understanding

[buoyant cobalt]

Woah that's insane so the Dinosaurs are controlled by something else?

[lethal moat]

Human consciousness donated via the thousand life contract is our current assumption, the player representing said human conciousness

[buoyant cobalt]

Oh my gosh that's insane the dinosaurs are people inside a dino body

[lofty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/garn-47-car-gif-6360379418477262515

[fast forge]

they are you inside a dino body

[hallow ruin]

this guy reading isle lore for the first time :
https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-ratatouille-chef-ratatouille-reading-shocked-gif-23517636

[buoyant cobalt]

I knew some but I didn't know that lmao

[buoyant cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[buoyant cobalt]

Once or twice

[river marsh]

Its a very clever way to canonize player behavior ngl lol

[snow jasper]

the Ethereal Intelligent Parrot

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/طوطی-gif-12290785393386684970

[buoyant cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/clever-girl-jurassic-park-gif-18793569

[opaque aspen]

Gib me trike

Lore

[buoyant cobalt]

Trike is trike

[buoyant cobalt]

Do we know if there are still gonna be tribals in Evrima like they planned for in legacy or nah?

[sonic rampart]

There'll be Generation 1, monstrous humanoids

[lethal moat]

Yesn’t, it’s not the exact same

[buoyant cobalt]

Alright

Oh cannibals are still gonna be a thing? Epic

[lethal moat]

Those aren’t cannibals, those are gen 1, the eyeless (cannibals) are something different that’s still planned

[buoyant cobalt]

Ohhh what are the gen 1 monsters then?

Do they have a name?

[lethal moat]

The stage before cannibals

[lethal moat]

We’ve narrowed it down to Deimos project

[buoyant cobalt]

Interesting

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 are also weapons

[buoyant cobalt]

So the whole isle project is essentially weapons development right? That's like why they made H strain and N strain correct?

[sonic rampart]

IIRC the strains are/were for medical research

Gen1 specifically, are weapons

[lethal moat]

Medicine adjacent is about all we know for now, there are medical applications

[buoyant cobalt]

Oh huh interesting

[lethal moat]

I like to think of gen 1 like guard/attack dogs

Very intelligent and brutal attack dogs

[buoyant cobalt]

Wait are there different Gen dinos? If so what Gen are we on for them lol

[lethal moat]

That’s not entirely what’s going on with gen 1, but at the point in the dibble trailer, there were 36 iterations of Diabloceratops

[buoyant cobalt]

Holy okay so lots and lots of different dinos

[lethal moat]

Yesn’t

I imagine we currently only play the latest iterations of dinos on that server, but we also know of different types of dinosaur, like a feathered galli, so it’s a bit if both

[buoyant cobalt]

Oh okay

[lethal moat]

I am curious to know how iterations and replication does work though, because we do know they can choose traits and behaviors that they want to continue

[sonic rampart]

I'd imagine it's a combination of selective breeding and genetic alteration

[buoyant cobalt]

If only we dinosaurs had aposable thumbs!

We could access the terminals

[lethal moat]

I was about to argue about breeding for behaviors, but that’s how domestication works and we do it all the time lol

[lethal moat]

Pattern recognition mutation PLEASE

[hallow ruin]

😭

[buoyant cobalt]

Fr lmao

[lofty swallow]

loer

[hexed forge]

SoonTM

[sacred spear]

what are ytjose

[lethal moat]

White Spikes, from “The Tomorrow War” on Amazon Prime

[sacred spear]

i think i seen it befoe

cool

[fast forge]

please

[deep cairn]

where is this?

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-the-internet-internet-laugh-gif-5497361540516518507

[hexed forge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

Ask any questions that you may have in here.

[deep cairn]

woo!

[snow jasper]

its been a while, are yall still recruiting random people off of this server

[lethal moat]

We recruit anyone who's interested to lorecord

[snow jasper]

hmmmm

[deep cairn]

who on earth is Ben

[deep cairn]

actually its funnier if I dont know.

[spark egret]

dilosaurus

[sage elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/tammy-and-the-trex-trex-dinosaur-dino-denise-richards-gif-21620372

[deep cairn]

what were isle walkers?

[lethal moat]

A giant skeleton on an old map

[deep cairn]

ohhhhh yeahh!!!

[ornate comet]

I SEE BEN CONTENT BUT NO @

[patent ginkgo]

😔

[lofty swallow]

this is a crime

[buoyant cobalt]

Wait recruiting? For what?

[patent ginkgo]

Being in lorecord

[normal olive]

https://pin.it/Mb6IFT0CG

Looks like the matriarch

[lethal moat]

The original art was inspired by it

[hexed forge]

Mmm beautiful

[sacred spear]

that dilo got rabies bruh

[sacred spear]

Christopher

[deep cairn]

Scary Ben?

[lethal moat]

Unofficial Matriarch Concept

[deep cairn]

Ooo

[river marsh]

God the old allo crests make it look so surprised in art 😂

[hexed forge]

One of the gen1 versions already have a model set for them.

Yahoo.

[hexed forge]

Some new human structures

Well, some sort of new fence. Somewhere.

Oh crap its a whole new location

Riverdelta area, hell yeah

They indeed have been working on humans

John Cake has a new gun and actually holds it right

NEW FENCESSS

That weird bunker at volcano is being replaced/deleted

[median shuttle]

we're about to see some GUTS

[hexed forge]

One of the GUTS hubs probably

[low scarab]

Can someone ping me when he gets to guts

[hexed forge]

Sure.

[river marsh]

ive secretly been watching this stream at work on my phone and now im going to swap to it on my computer XD my poor unsub bum butt going "HERE!" when he asked where the lore nerds at

[low scarab]

We love to see it

[hexed forge]

@low scarab

[low scarab]

Thanks perfect timing lol

[hexed forge]

The only guts on gateway currently

[low scarab]

Hopefully more soon

[hexed forge]

Dock is overgrown now yay

[median shuttle]

me too bud, me too

[patent ginkgo]

i love the super height of the tallest grasses

gonna look at some stuff regarding them rq

[hexed forge]

Aint new but cool

[fast forge]

my impression was that it was being upgraded, not removed entirely per se

[median shuttle]

I think the entrance model is getting replaced with the GUTS entrances we saw on the tunnel

[fast forge]

agreed

[buoyant cobalt]

Oh my goshhhh

[normal olive]

I missed the stream

[patent ginkgo]

dont worry you only missed the best grass the game has ever had and a super cool rework of the east river area

oh and a bit of rex and GUTS ig

im mostly hyped for the grass

[hexed forge]

<@&933486433342222376>

Thanks

[normal olive]

[patent ginkgo]

[lethal moat]

https://youtu.be/nNzbdV3zLlM I forgot this existed for awhile

[hexed forge]

Its nice.

[fierce cradle]

Hey all

I am back with some questions again to our lore wizards

What will be the most mind bending theory u want to see be real in the game

[lethal moat]

Neuros needing to stay moist in order to not dry up and die is my personal favorite unconfirmed one

[fierce cradle]

What are neuros ?

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401480573471948821/1173173235597197363/Neuro_Spino.gif?ex=6562fdb7&is=655088b7&hm=80fb679a714555687d61311e125ea77476090c97560ee811c0512c880383e75d&

It’s another strain

[fast forge]

Neurotenic strain, big brainy versions of animals that look kinda alien

[strange shell]

Grass ?
Grass rework !?
At last ???

[spark egret]

yeah, it looks amazing

[strange shell]

My prayers haven't gone unanswered

[weak sluice]

I used to play with this guy back in the day

Tyratize my goat

Back in the progression v2 days

[hallow ruin]

oh damn thats some long time ago

[random tide]

is there a place to see all lore related content officially released or discovered?

[random tide]

thanks!

[patent ginkgo]

Read through this

👍

[random tide]

interesting that primal carnage was originally connected lore wise? why is that? were they developed by some of the same teams?

im reading now, maybe its in there... i just though that was intersting

[polar bramble]

where is this!?!??!

[sonic rampart]

Not on the map yet

[polar bramble]

ah was it from the stream im guessing

like from amorok

[hexed forge]

Don Stream

[polar bramble]

oh when did he stream, havent bin paying attention for a couple months lol

[lethal moat]

Yesterday

[polar bramble]

oh

are there videos?

[lethal moat]

Probably

[patent ginkgo]

Don originally worked on primal carnage iirc

[random tide]

very cool... that game was great back in the early days

[polar bramble]

gonna check

the moment i open youtube i see it lol

[hexed forge]

yup

[fast forge]

it's so empty

even if it's supposed to stay clear to make way for traffic, I'd hope to see wrecked cars or stored materials or broken boxes or something like that inside

[hexed forge]

Theres different types of GUTS tunnels + this tunnel is very short and basic

[hexed forge]

Oh yeahh,

Gen2 were definitely getting some work in behind the scenes.

[patent ginkgo]

that the shotgun?

wait no

hmm idk

[hexed forge]

Oh good question

That thing on the bottom made me think that its a bolt action something something

But.... Im not sure anymore

[ornate comet]

can gen 2 play duck hunt with pteras

[knotty locust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1147161198408781864/1147219796883157012/1933a1ddce6d4e40d8f3399a5510959ff11a71af.png?ex=678be331&is=678a91b1&hm=b5ef6ad4566846ea17d8c3afbc2e4c01fcdc086df1ba9ab81e6be1b2a41ea32d&

[hexed forge]

OH YEAH

Thank you.

[knotty locust]

its 100% the rifle

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[knotty locust]

dunno what the wierd blue sheen is about, but i assume its something to do with lighting or texture/shading

[hexed forge]

Semi-functional humans for the 10th anniversary seems more possible now

[hexed forge]

Lighting probably

[knotty locust]

reminds me of the old tf2 plugins that can make your weapons whatever colour you want

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scared-gif-27466237

[lofty swallow]

glock

[lethal moat]

Sig Sauer P226

[lofty swallow]

in the left?

[lethal moat]

On the right

[lofty swallow]

[lethal moat]

Glock is a handgun manufacturer, not a type of handgun, you can’t look at any semiautomatic pistol and say glock

[lofty swallow]

19

[turbid shoal]

Oh

[vast cave]

Rumple is fly dino also in planing like Quetzal, Dimorphodon etc? I saw dondis stream that t rex is sickk it will be the Stego destroyer^^

[faint anvil]

I have returned.

[lethal moat]

Quetz, yes, Dimorphodon, no

[molten falcon]

its really bad tbh

[hallow ruin]

BROO THE NOTES I KNOW WHERE THEY ARE FROM

Yeah i was gonna send the OST clip but i forgot its name wow

i dont like the soundtrack, its not my vibes, but i do like those notes at first
and im worried what this game would loook like...

because tartarus... lore... the game isnt finished and we barely know about tartarus.. so yeah

[molten falcon]

by the way I scrapped that entire theme

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-confused-what-funny-animals-gif-12030082

[hallow ruin]

god i really thought u said enitre game 😭
u really seem good in it, would love to here more about what u make on that

[molten falcon]

would you like me to send you a new one that I made?

I mean the music

[hallow ruin]

yeah sure
and also hold on since ur in chat, is this rex walk animation at 0:12 done by the game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMWy4G4WvWM

[molten falcon]

all animations were custom made

I took nothing from the isle

[molten falcon]

I sent it in offtopic

[hexed forge]

Not very isle lorey.

[hallow ruin]

its really awesome how close it is to this, i love yours

[hallow ruin]

the isle lore is the friends we make along the way.

[hexed forge]

Oh.

[astral stag]

average the isle haters when they realize how long and how much effort game development takes

[strange sinew]

Yeah but glocks call there handguns glocks 🤣

[chrome acorn]

Glock also sells horse…. Product……

[median shuttle]

I kinda hope we get the eastern atrium back or the southern or both. Also I'm excited to see what new stuff is gonna be added next ht

[buoyant cobalt]

Fr

[hexed forge]

Hopefully the map changes, especially guts and... FENCESSSSSS .

[faint anvil]

I want a lore reason for this

[nimble fractal]

The chip in your dino's head is broken or being supressed by The Tower, causing malfunction and vision/memory issues. It may seem you are going somewhere while in reality you stay at one place. Probably someone is hacking Apollo.

[faint anvil]

You're a genuine genius.

[hexed forge]

Woah

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/owlcat-cat-cats-chris-pratt-gif-13768638

[hexed forge]

Thanks

Now where are the fences.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/railings-fence-work-building-erecting-gif-17193181

[sacred spear]

team foszor

[sacred spear]

does this mean we will get giant playable cats

[lethal moat]

Nah

[sacred spear]

she drugs me to keep me a vegetable

[acoustic osprey]

Aqueduct?

[hexed forge]

GUACAMOLE

YOU ARE ALIVE

[acoustic osprey]

Hi

[hexed forge]

How was the cruise? Or are you still on it?

[hexed forge]

Also no, its just the normal bridge. The same bridge that is currently in riverdelta.

[acoustic osprey]

Nice

The legs remind me of a Roman aqueduct
But the model doesn't look finished anyways

Please send and inform me on everything new pls, pictures and quotes etc

[acoustic osprey]

Getting off in a few hours

But finally have internet. So, in my heart, I am home

[hexed forge]

Alright, I'll gather everything.

[acoustic osprey]

Woohoo, thanks

If you can't, I'll try when I'm on my computer
Phone stinks

[hexed forge]

**Kissen Quote: ** I believe the correct interpretation of this quote is that they are strictly weapons. As mentioned prior.

Human Development: They have been worked on secretly, recieved new animations, they hold their weapons correctly, and they actually have different weapons. In the image theres a bolt-action rifle without the attachments and on the right its some sort of Glock that I do not know the specification of.

Map Development: Riverdelta/East Jungle/ Water Access river connection completely updated with new waterfalls, bridges, terrain etc. But the most important part is that there are new fences expanding more westward. (Important to me) Docks are now overgrown with bushes, grass, etc. Grass Physics and grass is taller.

GUTS ARE IN AND WERE SHOWCASED!! (Only GUTS stuff around Docks)

Pretty much it innit. The biggest thing was the dev stream.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKFpgzgmD70&t https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsHbC41qznQ&t
You can just watch these two short vids when you are back on your PC

[acoustic osprey]

3 picture, that looks like the wall at docks
But it has a guts entrance I presume?

Whether it be the same place or not

[hexed forge]

Third picture is not a GUTS entrance, its meant to act as a fence.

[acoustic osprey]

Ah, so same as the docks one then

Cool beans

[hexed forge]

However its in the riverdelta area yup

[acoustic osprey]

Good to see what kissen said what right about them giving gen2s development after dibble

[hexed forge]

Mhm

Who knows maybe we may get some semi-functional humans on the 10th anniversary.

Oh yeah and this new sticker

Cant forget about the most important part.

[acoustic osprey]

Just maybe...

[acoustic osprey]

They made this but not the Gen 1 skull a sticker...

[acoustic osprey]

4th and 5th
Good to see we're getting a similar place to the steam banner now
Woohoo

Though cement

[hexed forge]

Yippee.

[hexed forge]

The videos provide a much clearer look so I recommend you watch them whenever you can.

[acoustic osprey]

Good to hear what Don said about weathering on docks were to happen

[acoustic osprey]

Why!!
I hate those types of videos now!!

[hexed forge]

To see the clips !!!!!

[acoustic osprey]

I just want to see the whole thing...

https://tenor.com/view/xing-xing-xing-xingxing-water-drip-faucet-drip-gif-6108043236348868270

[hexed forge]

Well no one recorded the entire stream!!

Actually James probably did.

[acoustic osprey]

Wow thanks

[hexed forge]

Barrel reaction

[acoustic osprey]

Oh

[lofty swallow]

is this sea of theives? CERATO YOU PLAY SEA OF THEIVES?

[hexed forge]

No its Land of Cops

Yes I play SoT

[lofty swallow]

well nevermind then

[hexed forge]

HEYYY

[acoustic osprey]

best game!!

[acoustic osprey]

didn't even capitalise the S of G.U.T.S. 😔

@hallow rover

[hexed forge]

Hahaha

[acoustic osprey]

wait, did Don say Atrium was moved?

[hexed forge]

Huh, did he? I dont remember that

[acoustic osprey]

2nd vid

2nd thing he showed

talked about how "atrium was right about there"

also the gun zoom is beautiful

[hexed forge]

What timestamp?

[acoustic osprey]

1:12

[hexed forge]

Ahhh, hes referring to the East dome.

He calls them all Atriums lol

Red is where Don is standing, Orange arrow is where he is looking.

[acoustic osprey]

you sure? Only seem him refer to perm, on stream, as the atrium

[hexed forge]

Im 90% positive.

[acoustic osprey]

why the definitive article though... 😔

although, yeah, it does match location wise
do we rub out the name for "Perm" as no longer "The Atrium"?

don't wanna confuse the folks at home

we don't yet, of course, truly know the true and official name of it
nor the other domes (i believe less likely/easily for those ones)

[hexed forge]

I think we should yea

All of them are just Atriums

However they may have specified names like in legacy, Atrium A/B/C/Etc

[acoustic osprey]

either he calls all of them Atriums
Or
(which i think is likely on stream) that he mixed up the names

[hexed forge]

Possibly

[acoustic osprey]

because calling it "The" Atrium is a bit too specific

knowing he called Perm "The Atrium" before as well

i'll put a footnote saying we're not sure on the validity
even then
we are yet to know the official designation and in-lore name as of yet

so these names, Perm, Atrium, Hexadome, etc, are all here for convenience sake when talking

[hexed forge]

Mhm

I hope the "new" fences that Don said are new are actually new...

I asked him that in the stream and he just pointed south, into the relative area where there are already fences.

[acoustic osprey]

hopefully

[hexed forge]

I also asked about the East Plains fences being fixed or not and he said he isnt sure, so I hope thats fixed.

[acoustic osprey]

although looking at it again on PC
less a fence, more so a gate (bottleneck)

[acoustic osprey]

uh oh... lol

[hexed forge]

Yeah true

[lofty swallow]

[acoustic osprey]

although do we know if that tunnel is actually GUTS though?
and not just a standard tunnel
seeing as it is just the finalised version of the route between the bottom of the dockyard and below the radio tower

[hexed forge]

He called it GUTS.

So uhhh

[acoustic osprey]

also, yeah, that weathering and grass is beautiful|

[hexed forge]

GUTS could mean a variety of things I suppose

[hexed forge]

I hope the grass physics dont eat FPS

[acoustic osprey]

but that thing full tunnel though?
and not this https://gyazo.com/e1d893c65fc38b8a46519f3a1ab08296

if so, is there a timestamp?

[hexed forge]

No, thats just the prototype that was shown in the devblogs. He mentioned it on stream, I dont think James included it tho

[acoustic osprey]

also yeah, that entrance being black likely meaning that we won't get a more advanced GUTS for next update

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/c14ea8b0c64dd3df58932f6f2f87c48d
this tunnel

[hexed forge]

OH THAT

3:32

Second vid

[acoustic osprey]

but he didn't say "GUTS"
😔

he could've just been talking about tunnels in general

[hexed forge]

The whole chat was screaming GUTS so I assumed he was referencing GUTS. 😔

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[acoustic osprey]

is there grass physics coming?

didn't really look like it in stream

a bit extra grass won't really hurt though, just generally

[hexed forge]

1st video, running around as raptor.

The watching grass grow part.

When you run over grass it settles, and then it slowly goes back up.

[acoustic osprey]

ah

https://gyazo.com/d15d9f6aafbb1912f361c9768bf5b566
good to hear that this is going though
hopefully being fully redone

and not just
nothing there anymore

unless i heard wrongly from the VOD

[hexed forge]

Its being reworked yes. Not removed

[acoustic osprey]

good

as cool as that design is
much prefer it being finished and not just set there with nothing

will be interesting to see the end result
will it still be similar?

because i do like the art style
if you spice it up with a bit of weathering

[hexed forge]

I at least hope that the major parts of the GUTS system are released altogether and not piece by piece.

Like yeah Im fine with this small tunnel being released by itself, not connected to anything major anyway

[acoustic osprey]

seems like a maybe...

however
that was just a GUTS entrance

[hallow rover]

Did I not? That’s a mistake I’ll change that tomorrow 😂

[acoustic osprey]

oh no, i don't even know what i said

i meant
the "." after the S

no idea why i said capitalise lol

G.U.T.S.
rather than G.U.T.S

because the system is still important !!! 😔

lol

[acoustic osprey]

it might be that the tunnels will come a lot together
rather than the entrances

but who knows

[hexed forge]

Generic Underground Transportation

[acoustic osprey]

I presume facilities underground in GUTS will be harder to add in than tunnels
tunnels do seem a lot easier than such

[hexed forge]

Hope so

[acoustic osprey]

🤞
any GUTS is better than any GUTS though

[hexed forge]

"Any GUTS is better than any GUTS"

[hallow rover]

I did in sections yea, but I don’t like uploading stream clips anyway because ik the devs aren’t fond of it, hence why when I do make stream recap videos I try to put the writing bits in the middle so it’s not just their clips

[hexed forge]

||You can do the classic lorecordian trick and just make it unlisted so you can only find it via link. ||

[hallow rover]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmm-thinking-batman-gif-6153870554148391864

If they ever told me to stop doing it I would happily, I try not to be one of those channels that just farm views from dondis stuff I just know some people miss the streams when they are live

[acoustic osprey]

unlisted can't be monetised anyways

[fast forge]

he said something about weathered-looking fences, maybe that's what he meant by new fences?

[hexed forge]

No.

He was talking about how he wants to make the fences look weathered.

When I asked him the question he definitely was referring to actual new fences.

[fast forge]

fair enough, that would be cool

[patent ginkgo]

he only said something about a new weathered concrete texture, no?

[meager junco]

This

[fast forge]

I was distracted for a lot of the stream so I missed some things, and just remembered the weathered buildings, so I can't say

[hexed forge]

Yes

He wants that yes

[patent ginkgo]

So I don’t think there was mention of new fence models, right?

[meager junco]

I just remember him saying “I can’t wait to see the new concrete textures on these fences”

[hexed forge]

yup

[hexed forge]

No

[acoustic osprey]

THANK YOU

[acoustic osprey]

i will forgive you this time, tiny

[fast forge]

[median shuttle]

nah, don said the final version is coming and I think it's gonna be the updated guts entrances we saw at the tunnel segment by the docks

[plush widget]

So many exciting things coming

I can't wait

[median shuttle]

same im very excited but the fact I have tons of exams coming up helps me cope with the waittime

cause I cant afford any distractions lol

[plush widget]

i also have like 7 exams to go through

we might be the same person

[acoustic osprey]

erm

[median shuttle]

means you didnt hear wrong

or did you mean erm cause you havent seen the new tunnel between the radio towers and docks yet

[acoustic osprey]

because i already got a reply!!!!

[median shuttle]

well I didnt see that, did I now?

https://tenor.com/view/ocean-park-roy-rooster-chicken-chiken-gif-8342335877956339708

[acoustic osprey]

how!!!

you responded to old message
you hurt feeling

[median shuttle]

well, I have a weird sense of perception

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/xing-xing-xing-xingxing-water-drip-faucet-drip-gif-6108043236348868270

[hexed forge]

Is that Monkey getting any water.

I think it needs water.

Just maybe.

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

[lethal moat]

I wonder how easy it’ll be to steal stuff from other gen 2 without killing them, like, they step away for a moment, can you just run up and yoink their backpack from their campsite and skedaddle?

[hexed forge]

Hopefully. But I bet some servers will mod in a feature that basically makes items "claimed" by players. But thats for unofficials only, for officials, I would hope you can.

Or you could just kill them.
Probably what I would do. Easier then planning out a whole stealth plan.

[acoustic osprey]

I'm going to doubt a "sneak n' steal" type of mechanic like from RPGs

However
That would be cool

Steal their keycard
Take their locker

Basically

[hexed forge]

Oh wait are you referring to actually stealing things from their bodies(Pickpocketing for example) or just picking stuff up from their campsites?

[acoustic osprey]

First

I imagine stealing stuff from peoples sites being not even a specialised mechanic

Just being
I see this, I pick this

[hexed forge]

The mechanic might be tough to work around with actual players

Just kill them.

[acoustic osprey]

What do you mean?

You mean with pick pocketing? Yes

[hexed forge]

Pickpocketing yeah

[acoustic osprey]

That is why I doubt it

Even though it would be cool

[hexed forge]

mhm

[acoustic osprey]

Quite so

[lethal moat]

Give me a ghillie suit so I can just exist without them knowing

[fast forge]

I like the idea of players stealing things from Gen 2 camps

Reminds me of when I went camping and these gray jays would show up to pick through the campsite, everyone called them "camp robbers"

Would be funny if like hypsis showed up to take your gear because it is shiny

[acoustic osprey]

if dinos can steal eggs!
I want to steal human stuff!

[fast forge]

even better if adding shiny stuff to your nest gives some kind of bonus

[ornate comet]

Actually would really help with dinos

[knotty locust]

I mean, it’s easy enough to just grab someone’s stuff if they drop it for whatever reason or they aren’t looking

if there’s an inventory system it makes loot pinching even easier

[hexed forge]

I really hope the satellite dish issue is fixed.

It should render in the tower, but not the dishes imo.

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
That is what I mean
If anything is on the ground
On your camp, etc

It isn't really and shouldn't need a mechanic for it

Because you're just picking something up

[acoustic osprey]

Quite so

[acoustic osprey]

Both would be nice...

[hexed forge]

True

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-theisle-the-isle-lore-lore-gif-19857045

[acoustic osprey]

not yet, but soon

[lethal moat]

I want a corkboard with papers and red string

[acoustic osprey]

that would be funny lol

every update
it changes to show a different random persons' wacko (average lorecordian) theory

[lethal moat]

Me frantically digging through the recycling bin to find an old theory

[hallow ruin]

i didnt watch the video.

[lethal moat]

I am curious how AE’s plan to “save the world” works, I would presume most people don’t get saved, maybe only those that pay, I imagine it’s largely irrelevant, as I don’t think we’ve reached that point in the story, but AE’s goal beyond the current events of the game could help us figure out what’s going on, which would ideally be done throughout gameplay and environmental storytelling

[low scarab]

I imagine that ae plans to mutate all life on earth to be adapted to the changing climate and along the way they said “hey wait a minute we can make ourselves immortal”

[lethal moat]

Alright, well how do humans play into that, the environments created on the islands aren’t very friendly, does it become a hive city situation, where the world maintains itself while humans are concentrated to certain areas?

[dapper light]

Silly boy thinks we r falling for that

[low scarab]

No I think the islands are a testing ground remember we isn’t the only company either especially with Apollo being a behemoth

And I don’t think extinction of mankind is imminent in any fashion but things like famines are becoming an increasing concern

[lethal moat]

True, there’s likely still plenty of time to do stuff

[zenith frigate]

<@&933486433342222376>

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376>

[safe ravine]

SHEESH

I'm tryin to play minecraft yall

[acoustic osprey]

NOO

[low scarab]

Did I miss my chance to redeem free discord nitro?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[safe ravine]

probably the same bot/guy making new accts and spamming $20 steam gift cards

[acoustic osprey]

'they'll fall for it! they'll fall for it!'

[hexed forge]

If it didn't work, they would never exist in the first place.

[acoustic osprey]

literally the whole philosophy of scammers

even if we don't get everyone
there is always the 1% that do

[strange sinew]

Wdym we

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-life-no-reaction-a-bugs-life-gif-9543586419898477038

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/xingxing-xing-xing-xing-macaquinha-macaca-gif-10399735014109140616

[strange sinew]

🤣🤣

[rain plinth]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gayloranti-monkey-fat-scratching-head-looks-at-hand-gif-8485782382015281375

[acoustic osprey]

i do suppose we have 'some' sort of insight
that being with the megaflora in the ocean
but that seems to be it 'directly'

however, though, does this philosophy (on what they're doing with this megaflora) reflect upon AE as a 'whole' on their plan to "save the world"?
Maybe
as in the way they are doing it, quite physically pumping chemicals into the ocean; therefore, say, a more 'rough' and 'hands on' philosophy

but definitely as you refer to, having routes like gameplay (especially with Gen2s) and environmental storytelling within Gateway and all other maps and areas, is definitely needed to solve more on this
heck, maybe even some future 'lore documents'
if the strain theory (that is related to the megaflora leakage) is true, then maybe we can cross reference (and etc) and try to paint a picture... and getting to know what that picture actually is...

[acoustic osprey]

I'd like to know how AE takes on this aspect

I imagine that ae plans to mutate all life on earth to be adapted to the changing climate

Because i was gonna say 'i agree that they do this'
but then i thought... well i don't really know, do i?

are AE, taking my point on the megaflora, replacing the local environment? (in this case, with likely the same flora just bigger? or are they just putting in new flora that'll better fit the changing ocean, therefore world)
or are AE taking a 'evolution'-esque aspect, literally 'playing a naturalist god' pov
- i.e. AE puts in mutated/upgraded creatures which are physically (||just*?*||) better in an environment and puts them into the wild. Therefore it will breed with the local population and 'survival of the fittest' (the ones that didn't breed basically dying out due to stronger competition, etc).

[lethal moat]

I think the events we currently experience in game are right around the middle of the journey for AE’s goals, they’ve made tremendous progress in the technical aspects, but are unable to implement it successfully yet

[acoustic osprey]

right around the middle of the journey for AE’s goals
as in
journey for their goals (they don't have all their goals, they are still going through and finding them)?

or
in the middle of completing their goals? (assuming they will complete them)

[lethal moat]

The second one, they know what they want and are working towards it

[serene hare]

Any lore abt the evrima version of the isle?

[acoustic osprey]

a bit 50/50 on that
just because, of course, the islands (either all or a good lot of them, of AEs) are abandoned

so, i feel like a lot of their goals have been halted
and if not, greatly diminished

presuming AE are still running and will still run 'mid-game' in lore

[acoustic osprey]

si senor

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit
I recommend this document

in the pinned messages, we have some 'evrima lore documents' (as in, actual in-lore documents)

however, those docs are only related to ERRANT-291 (who is a minor ||99% change 1 time|| character) at the moment

we also have some 'dinosaur glance sheets' (describing the dinos)
which are all in #isle-phase-three (and more will be coming in-game)

however, those 'dinosaur glance sheets' are pretty lacklustre in terms of lore. Very niche, i'd say. So not worth 'a crazy amount of time'

besides that, everything else is just worldbuilding in-game (on Gateway)
and quotes from Dondi that we have summarised in the google document sent above

[lethal moat]

I feel like if AE were closer to the end of their goals, there might be more urgency in trying to recapture the islands, but if they know what they want and how long they have to get it, it all works out fine

[acoustic osprey]

i can see that
but i do believe, even if they were not very far, that they'd still want to as well

clearly AE, at least, have gotten 'results'
looking at AUGUSTUS or generally being able to make Humanoids like Gen1s (and 2s?... depends on timeline)
AND especially the existence of EIPs

so. Yeah.
I do suppose this is, from me, presuming we 'know' what their goal (goals) are

i believe we may never truly know
besides from community theories via direct lore

which is the fun part!

[lethal moat]

Yes!

[acoustic osprey]

give us the crumbs! so we can make ourselves a (although crumby) loaf

[thorny wedge]

Basically Jurassic Island

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[fallow harbor]

do we know how long these creatures took to grow from baby to adult in lore?

[hexed forge]

No

[ornate comet]

Day 100099 of waiting for another trail cam video

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[acoustic osprey]

i want an isle ziggurat

[lethal moat]

I'd love to hear more about gen 2 interactions, I want to be the "good soldiers follow orders" clone

[hexed forge]

I would love to hear about Gen2s that went rogue.

[median shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-silly-clone-trooper-storm-trooper-star-wars-gif-17439982

[acoustic osprey]

I'd love to see something on gen2 gameplay... 😔

[hexed forge]

So True

Phase three.....thanks......

Rotting alone

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[acoustic osprey]

pov EIPs/Gen2s
https://youtu.be/_47rP3n7JO4

[hexed forge]

Lmao

[snow jasper]

oo, this looks interesting

i'd love to know how they explain or distinguish each "multiple" 's present consciousness

[acoustic osprey]

hmmm

[snow jasper]

well, both present, past and future

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/amogus-god-taketh-away-among-us-gif-25174656

[serene hare]

Anyone have a clip or pic of the red markings on the wall of the sanctuary

Thing

[acoustic osprey]

not on a sanctuary
this would've been on a standard building back on Spiro
but never saw the light of day (publicly)

[serene hare]

Anyone know what the trifolium is?

[patent ginkgo]

The colorful bushes, but Trifolium is the clover genus. The bushes ingame are likely placeholders until we get a proper AE-version huge clover plant

[fast forge]

oh you think it will be a giant clover?

[patent ginkgo]

I mean, something along those lines

After all it is supposed to be that big food plant for large herbivores

But some sort of overgrown or gigantic maybe unnatural looking clover thing is my expectation

[fast forge]

I suppose just having it be funny colors isn't much because clover can already come in a variety of colors

[golden hemlock]

is that new?

[lethal moat]

Old to the point of potentially being outdated

[golden hemlock]

Oh ty

[acoustic osprey]

Xmas 2020

[muted reef]

Imagine if it was a praying point for gen 1's

[limber frigate]

yesss this is what I'm talking about

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kaperoo-austroraptor-evrima-the-isle-gif-13614323030079863274

[oak bramble]

someone give me a dinosaur to draw

wrong chat 🙏

[acoustic osprey]

wow

[hexed forge]

Spiro Rework/Potentially Hunting Reserve Map Theory (Coping theory I made while being bored and forced to post it in Islecord)

Main point, this theory focuses on the possibility that Spiro might be reworked into the hunting reserve map. Since we know that spiro is being reworked from several other pieces of evidence (However I guess its not fully confirmed?). So, this theory is a whole branch of copium and speculation. The main piece of evidence is that Don said the hunting reserve concept kept most of its shape/features? (I went with shape for the speculation)

Which led to intense speculation, what did he mean by that? Did they make another more finalized concept of the map or could it be already in some sort of early stage of development? Even if they just made another finalized concept, why? Why would they make it unless they are planning to work on another map/rework a map. However, this hunting reserve island would need humans.

Leads to the other piece of evidence, humans being worked on in secret (Sort of, not really). We know that humans have started some sort of backstage development due to a Kissen comment. Which just sums up the entire thing..

They could be planning to release a new map/reworked spiro with Humans for the 10th anniversary.

Thank you.

[acoustic osprey]

I'll put down what little i had in lorecord
but i had a similar thought to this while away
i can see this happening
although I feel like having the 'next map' also be very different/contrasting to actual current isle gameplay would be a very very BOLD thing to do

unless they scrap the 'hunting' part of it
and was only a 'hunting reserve' before you play on it
definitely put it in lore theories though

[hexed forge]

Yup

[grand sigil]

nuh uh

[hexed forge]

oh

[dense quiver]

Are the past islands, prior to Gateway, considered canon? It’d be dope if The Isle was an archipelago of Isles, even if most of them are only playable on older versions.

[acoustic osprey]

No
Besides maybe Spiro

That being, maybe, the idea of Spiro
And not the old map itself

But no one knows right now

Besides all the Legacy stuff are canned right now, unless Don wants to revive something like he almost did with Region 2

[hexed forge]

Legacy was planned to have 5 maps right?

Or at least in lore there were 5.

[dense quiver]

I was thinking about the possibility of sauropods as big AI, and the dissonance of sauropod just spawning into Gateway.

Then I had the thought, what if the sauropods mainly lived and bred on other islands with fewer carnivores (fewer players), but full grown sauropods would migrate to and from Gateway specifically for sauropod sized rock salt deposits. Elephants will travel crazy distances for rock salt and the other minerals in it, and full grown sauropods could be big enough to walk across shallow (enough) seabed between islands that smaller predators wouldn’t be able to safely follow for fear of marine predators. That is, if there were other, Gateway sized islands NEAR Gateway, to make that kind of submerged-land-bridge feasible. Not sure if the proximity of the sea would reduce the value of rock salt tho…
🤷‍♀️ 🦕 🧂

[acoustic osprey]

No
Recode

[hexed forge]

OH YEAH

[acoustic osprey]

silly billy

[acoustic osprey]

you are evoking roster split

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/xinging-xinging-monkey-monkey-monkey-speech-xinging-speech-bubble-gif-17417339258175886022

[young viper]

whats the meaning of those again?

[acoustic osprey]

tribal artwork

[young viper]

looks like the hands are trying to reach something

that circle thing

[acoustic osprey]

the replicator

[young viper]

oh right

[hexed forge]

Are these two different types of hands

[dense quiver]

I’m not totally sure what that means, but the Island(s) that are sauropod havens would not be playable islands like Gateway is now. It’d just be cool lore wise if a BIG ai had a place to go/come from when they spawn in and out, and it could even result in migratory paths for them, to and from salt. And if older, no longer playable islands from the past still exist nearby, that would be a neat Easter egg, lore wise.

[acoustic osprey]

could just be a case of this

however
maybe

most of them look the same
besides the one on the far left

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[hallow ruin]

anyone remember this? do we believe its cannon?

because if so.... im figuring out the size of this hyper plant
and if i do so, i can decide if its size matches ||REDACTED|| or not.. would be insane

looks good enough (legacy hyper spino)

this tree, is rougly 240 meters high...

alright so, from my findings and measures

this perfectly fits the size of the aviary domes existing in the map (used to be 3)

which means... idk... it means something ?

[patent ginkgo]

Likely not exactly the same thing still in lore, but I hope the general concept is still there

[patent ginkgo]

Seems like that one concept art with a dome containing a single giant tree could be real after all?

[hallow ruin]

yeah, def there must be a minor changes

[hallow ruin]

i believe so

personally my theory is
domes are places that are fit for specifc strain plants

[patent ginkgo]

Oh that tree is just breaking out of the top

[patent ginkgo]

I would love that

[hallow ruin]

breaking out? or....

(i mean the skyhole being wherer they let the tree go out to the sky through)

[patent ginkgo]

That would also be cool, but then, why not have built the whole thing higher to properly contain the tree?

Besides the concept art has the other small dome, and a properly broken top

[valid geyser]

Perhaps it would’ve been made before the tree grew to its full height

Could’ve grown past expectations

[hallow ruin]

exactly what i also thought, but kinda made no sense

i thought the reason why 3 domes are spread, refers to old OLD isle lore with the island having mysterious plants transferring through herbis eating it to carnis to make the strains

so they found the 3, and they built a building on it, and they also had previous experiences so they know the max height, but for extra security they make a sky hole/easily breakable spot for the tree to break through if it does*

but it seems unlikely, as it looks so Not thought out not on the size of AE and its tech

[patent ginkgo]

But then, how would they have known to build a doorway for it? That’s all I’m thinking

[hallow ruin]

oh also look
the diameter of the tree is ~600meters
which is ALSO matching the dome

no matter how old this concept is, dont u forget not anything gets scrapped/fully changed
most stuff stay... you know if you remember these.

many familiar faces here

[lethal moat]

Looking through the old ironbelly concepts again?

[hallow ruin]

look from here and down for context #isle-lore-theories message

i really needed you to see this but didnt wanna ping

[lethal moat]

I wake up to like, 30 pings from this server, it’s fine

If those trees are still a thing, I don’t think they’re on gateway

[onyx sail]

I think the next dinosaur on the Isle is the Grundal

[hallow ruin]

aw..

[hallow rover]

i hope they are i love the idea of strain plants

[low scarab]

you guys are talking about strain plants wthout me?

[lethal moat]

"One Thousand Lifetimes is what you owe the company." -The bois playing Lethal Company

[valid geyser]

<@&933486433342222376> hey look a free gift!!

Oh god wait they’re everywhere.

[fast forge]

why not?

[lethal moat]

That larger one specifically is too massive, and I believe we’ve been told gateway doesn’t have a large botany thing planned? I may be misremembering

[hallow rover]

shame

i do love a good maneating horror plant

[hallow rover]

oh i just noticed your a server admin now, nice job

[plush widget]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-any-haircut-recommendations-low-taper-fade-you-know-what-else-is-massive-gif-3708438262570242561

[lethal moat]

Hopefully on other islands, if my guess is right and not something completely random🤞

[plush widget]

wouldn't a hyper plant in the domes or just any large human facility explain the emergence of strains on the island? I dont know if the devs have said anything about how strains occurred, please educate me.

Even then, a question arises, how did strain plants come about

Lore is like an eternal torture of thought with little to no backstory to base our ideas off. I need more lore

Even if strain plants were the origin of the strain mutations on the island they would have to somehow transfer DNA that was taken from X plant and genetically modify Y dinosaur to become a strain

But then also, were strain plants a natural occurrence on the island or were they genetically engineered by AE

Strains free roaming on the island could be of little to no use to AE in my opinion since they would

1. Decimate the "actual" creature populations
2. Cause huge harm to them

But that also reminds me of the "incident" sector of light claw's where he talked about the pre incident period etc etc.

Also strains in captivity could maybe be used for testing and theoretically result in pharmaceutical advances which would be of great importance to AE

Please rumple

[hallow rover]

i don't think AE would have strains wandering around their ecosystem because like you say they would absolutely destroy it

strains are probably to do with alot of other lore stuff we dont know about yet so i try not to think about them too much. idk as much about lore as some people here but i always thought strains were something to do with the replicator and that they are something that AE would normally keep locked away

[plush widget]

Or maybe that's why they would be of great use to them ...

[plush widget]

I'm hoping a Shirley and Dean video comes out sometime to maybe clear things up a bit

[hallow rover]

hopefully once Rex releases there will be something similar to the Augustus video but for the rexes

[plush widget]

Probably will be 2 videos, one for general marketing and one for the lore enthusiasts.

[hallow rover]

yea that would be the best way

[plush widget]

also i wanted to hear your opinion on when you think rex might be released after watching the latest dondi stream.

[hallow rover]

myself, i think its maybe around 3 ish month off. But idk anything about game deving thats just a guess based off of how long its been in development and how it looks now

[plush widget]

interesting

that is what most people tend to think

[muted reef]

I remember back when I thought it may come out last summer

How we thinking human development is going rn

[hexed forge]

Definitely in development at least

[acoustic osprey]

probably

[acoustic osprey]

always cool these were
I do wonder, being a third party, if Don had ever rough sketches of what he wanted beforehand
then gave it to them to render a better look of it
or if these ideas were fully from IronBelly or Vega (or both Vega and Don)

[acoustic osprey]

there was a chance, from a Don stream ages ago iirc, that Spire (on Spiro) could've been replaced by a large tree
same stream we got the original name drop for GUTS

which was just going to be an underground cave system below Spire

[mental halo]

imagine jumping off this with herrera

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-hellpod-helldive-helldivers-2-hellpod-gif-5849478231444523081

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/herrera-herra-herrerasaurus-herreradrop-herrera-drop-gif-9414578474291864741

[hallow ruin]

this is why i believe strain plants is "somewhat" a natural occurence, its like "some path a natural creature would take in developing" smth like lets say all primates eventually becoming human-like (too human like, develeoped to hit human stage of progress)

same for all(?) creatures/beings but having 3 paths

what AE studies is, how possible is it happening, and on that, using these would be as u said "harmaceutical advances findings" which MAYBE means humans adapting to new forms of global heat/whatever natural disaster happening in lore

[hallow ruin]

i really think its dondi's ideas

[hallow ruin]

i was gonna send the kratos gif but isaac did it first 😭

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/xinging-xinging-monkey-monkey-monkey-speech-xinging-speech-bubble-gif-17417339258175886022

[hallow ruin]

this is actuallly so interesting...

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

i think i would've preferred big tree and guts than what happened

although, hey, maybe we will get big tree if Spiro comes back

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376>

thank you

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-forest-クロノクロス-chrono-cross-background-video-games-gif-20956402

[acoustic osprey]

imagine how terrible it would be if this channel was wiped

[nimble fractal]

🫣

[hexed forge]

Pure chaos

[fast forge]

well y'know at least y'all have a lot of stuff archived

[deep cairn]

Dang this was years ago, I remember seeing this on anthomnia I think. I really love the Jurassic park theme of these, so cool.

[deep cairn]

Isn’t that tree a strain?

[hexed forge]

Might be the Hyper strain, perhaps.

[plush widget]

i don't think that any other strain would make sense for a plant to be fair

[hexed forge]

Tissoplastic Strain

Being an expert poisonous plant and insane healing and growth.
Not a strong structure but a weak one that easily heals and is like a parasite to a certain area, spreads like fire, and can be killed easily with fire.

(Just ideas)

[plush widget]

i forgot tisso existed

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-fan4stic-fantastic-four-the-thing-say-that-again-gif-9345984830195785978

[hexed forge]

hi

[deep cairn]

I think everyone forgets about Russo

Tisso

Hypo is the coolest anyway

It just turns dinosaurs into epic dragons

[plush widget]

id say that neuro is the most epic

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-laughing-monster-inc-joke-but-seriously-gif-3376858

[lethal moat]

I like tisso for biased reasons

[hexed forge]

Seriously,

If this channel got wiped right now.
I think the lore community would riot

[lethal moat]

Do it for the vine

[hexed forge]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-gumball-skip-to-the-end-gif-15453179

[acoustic osprey]

it certainly would not be good, at least we have basically everything documented for Evrima lore
but soo much legacy of lore would be gone. Poof.

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-gauntlet-snap-finger-snap-gif-12502580

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[deep cairn]

enlighten me

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/538756215925243925/Screenshot_20190126-082342.jpg?ex=679661d3&is=67951053&hm=7fadf3c937fbba35b0e5d16147cce616b9151c22716c44d0f2c81b5d50264cec&

[deep cairn]

A THOUSAND LIVES

https://tenor.com/view/aww-hell-nahh-aww-hell-aww-hell-nahh-gif-9659330954843262630

Phoenix corp live reaction

[acoustic osprey]

including these:

No matter how hard you try, you'll never really be one of them. You don't belong here.

Your body is a cage. Apollo will set you free. Death will rise with the sun.

We wait for you at the bottom of the lake.
Please hold. Your reality may temporarily become unstable.

basically thousand lives contract was, in legacy, seemingly an actual contract that 'you' (i presume plural) owe

we are all EIPs (profiles, i.e. minds that control the playable creatures) within the islands, in legacy

[deep cairn]

any idea who its to or what from

oh its a message to the EIP

[acoustic osprey]

likely to all of us though

because
in legacy
Don really had this thing going on that YOU the player(s) were connected to lore

everything reflected 'in-game' tried to be a reflection of lore

therefore
why do we keep on respawning?
the replicator

why do the animals act human-like?
EIPs

etc

it is a really engaging but, however, very limiting aspect
will give Don some credit though, playing with the 'medium' was definitely really cool

[deep cairn]

thats a neat concept

it makes the dinosaurs creepier

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, it is interesting

the EIP aspect seems to be coming back from Legacy though
but the thousand life contract... who knows

[hexed forge]

Absolute poetry.

[deep cairn]

right!

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/me-atrapaste-es-cine-its-cinema-cinema-esto-es-cine-gif-12869046600151364058

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/norman-osborn-spider-man-green-goblin-gif-24532890

[hexed forge]

Hopefully

[acoustic osprey]

i really hope for things like this in the future of the game

We wait for you at the bottom of the lake.
Please hold. Your reality may temporarily become unstable

a bit like the dibble description
little hints to finding things in-game

iirc, i don't believe the quote i sent had anything in it
and if it did, i don't remember

excluding the obvious titan lake skeleton

[deep cairn]

the next step for this EIP concept would be to say that the EIPs are joe shmoes from an alternate reality sending signals through spacetime to control dinosaur bodies on the Apollo island

by playing a video game

[acoustic osprey]

which we know, although being something, was basically a bunch of bones mashed around

[hexed forge]

Wasnt this a reference to the islandwalker corpse in titan lake?

[hexed forge]

oh

I did NOT read that part

[acoustic osprey]

likely no
unless it was
but i swear this was way before V3 was updated and the islandwalker skeleton was put there

[deep cairn]

Giant skeleton was so long ago I cant remember if I even saw that in game or not

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/garn47-car-garn47-car-garn-gif-8690760083677225756

[hexed forge]

I see

[deep cairn]

wasnt there something besides the dinosaurs from the mesezoic era

DINOSAUR WASNT IN MESEOCIZ

I meant to say some prehistoric monster

[hexed forge]

Dinos were from the mesozoic

[hexed forge]

From what we know, no

[deep cairn]

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

nuts I dont deserve dinosaurs

[knotty locust]

explains the players that constantly kill themselves when spawning because they dont get a good spawn

[hexed forge]

Lmao

[deep cairn]

also,

[frank spire]

yeah, if you see 300 dilo baby corpses on na, it was me

[rich blaze]

whats islandwalker?

[unborn gorge]

what does this mean

nvm let me use my brain and read

what is EIP

im suddenly very interested

[acoustic osprey]

basically in the name
just a big ||mf|| guy

but besides from that? We knew and know basically zero from its very minimal reference(s) in legacy

[rich blaze]

its a dino?

[acoustic osprey]

if we look at the bones in Titan Lake, which are presumably it, potentially?
but we knew, from Dinosauriac, that they were placeholder

so, knowing the theme of isle, probably very dino-like

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[rich blaze]

ohh what do the bones look like

[acoustic osprey]

EIPs are you (in legacy, especially)
basically
Embryo Intelligence Profiles

i.e. human consciousness trapped in the brain of another thing
in Legacy, basically only in Dinosaurs (and theorised with Tribals ||Generation Ones in Evrima||

for Evrima, bit of a different/curious case
we don't know the extent of what EIPs are connected to; being that we don't know if all dinos have an EIP (seeing as there are natural born creatures that are, in-game and lore ||presumably||, need to be chipped ||see, we don't know how consciousness of EIPs can and could be transferred though||, and that Don seems to want Evrima to be less to be like Legacy, where everything in-game needs to be described in-lore)

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/560956133829771264/2019-03-28_4.png?ex=6796b99c&is=6795681c&hm=9130b5d67604a3402612d14998972c57c74e4953d63444b8928c053823f00ff2&
take this as you will
this, although in 2019, was in the lake as well

where, iirc, the first mention of the quote i sent was in 2018?

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/676847093217755177/20200128030335_1.jpg?ex=67971e3a&is=6795ccba&hm=0d66f8af734ab24188df6bf3c5f1e882b9b90f07b23723e5438db0174a4c577d&
photo from in titan lake

[rich blaze]

damn howd it die?

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/YQBIyxS1D3A?t=825
13:45

when it was above land^ and weathered

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-invincible-nolan-grayson-nolan-grayson-gif-16724675788842523701

we have no idea lol

something from 2018 that just never came

[unborn gorge]

so the isle lore is a little bit scattered im guessing

[knotty locust]

was

[acoustic osprey]

yes and no

[knotty locust]

seems like dondi has rewritten quite a lot of stuff

[acoustic osprey]

Legacy was just not right for Isle
as nice as it was

it just kept on changing

[unborn gorge]

so evrima is the foundation for lore going forwards

where can I go down the lore rabbithole

[acoustic osprey]

yep, unless something terribly bad happens

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[unborn gorge]

ah I see

[acoustic osprey]

(you can, but I say it is harder)

[unborn gorge]

nah no way, thats just more of a reason to get excited

[acoustic osprey]

Like GW_F5 and GW_H4

[unborn gorge]

what are these strange codes

you speak many a strange words stranger

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly, I'd give it a year or two (I feel like i have been saying this for quite some time now...)
but GUTS is being developed a lot and actually is physically A LOT closer
Humans got some visual stuff done on them
and Don conducted a "lore hunt" (a cool but small lore scavenger) to learn about future community-esque lore stuff like that

[acoustic osprey]

broadly
just location codes (of sites/locations, presumably)

but when you go down the rabbit hole... sadly i did a video on F5... (and not on purpose, it wasn't supposed to be the main point of the video lol)
F5, in April (and for many months afterwards), became a very big topic for us

we turned from insane to insaner

||gotta hope Don can do some of that for the next official lore video||

[unborn gorge]

so sounds like I gotta catch myself up to speed while the interesting stuff gets developed

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, i'd definitely recommend giving a peak! you might just wanna stay and endure the waiting pain lol

(best way to start, I'd say, is reading Rumple's doc in the pinned messages. And watching all the videos linked at the bottom of the document)

[unborn gorge]

(I found his doc, I got a lot to get through in one night)

and in reference to before what was guts?

[acoustic osprey]

nice

[acoustic osprey]

officially unofficially "Generic Underground Transportation System"
if you've seen some of the tunnel entrances around the map, those are basically them

[unborn gorge]

so is the lore going to exist in game or is just background bits and pieces?

I know some of the legacy stuff but I never stayed updated with evrima

[night pasture]

deino can grab dino half its weight right

[nimble fractal]

That's a bit wrong chat for such a question, but yeah
When the prey is in water - around 75%

[night pasture]

sry i thought i asked in main chat

[hexed forge]

foreshadowing

[hexed forge]

A random sunken ruin,

On v3?

[hallow rover]

I would guess it starved to death due to how big it is

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[deep cairn]

Yeah I think once guts is in the map we’ll have a lot of lore stuff

Man those old meatylock videos used to get my blingles blingling

Too bad all of his videos are outdated now

Is Tartarus outdated?

[hexed forge]

No.

[fast forge]

nah, the word "tartarus" was even hidden in the diabloceratops video last year

it's definitely still in

[deep cairn]

Oo

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-crazy-funny-silly-gif-13908292

[buoyant cobalt]

If dino "taming" is still added what dinosaurs do you think would be the hardest to actually tame and what ones would be the easiest?

[strange shell]

Hardest : apexes
Easiest : small herbivores

[cinder meadow]

next update will be in a year or am like that

[strange shell]

hmmmm nice lore theory

[cinder meadow]

yeah

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237

[strange shell]

Ok but what about voodoo zombie dinos

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-ill-allow-it-allowed-gif-4468552

[acoustic osprey]

Yes with island walker

[buoyant cobalt]

Yeah I feel like Raptors would be one of the hard ones as well

[buoyant cobalt]

Hey ya never know

[acoustic osprey]

(sorry, was busy last night and fell asleep)
But, there is some
although i presume the lore you refer to is more than just worldbuilding

Good news is that soon there will be documents around the map, new ones we haven't seen before
bad news, if you take it that way (although it is a GOOD step towards the right direction, at least), is that they might just only be 'dinosaur glance sheets'
like the ones in #isle-phase-three

but yeah
it is suppose be a blend of in-game stuff and third party stuff
and if anything, those two mediums are made interlinked, like we saw with the Lore Hunt.

however, right now, it is more third party stuff at the moment
like the ERRANT-291 papers, basically either being sent here or on youtube

[zealous void]

What do we know about the future of strains in evrima? I know about like the hyper rex remodel concept but that’s about it

[strange shell]

I don't think so, since they're social animals
They naturally understand the concept of hierarchy, and following a leader
Like wolves

[spark egret]

hello class

[acoustic osprey]

what do you mean and expect of such?
as in, what do you currently know and presume of Strains

[zealous void]

I dunno man I’m a bit new to the lore

I’m curious about them as playables and such I don’t know if that’s the kind of question that would go here

[acoustic osprey]

we know a bit
But if you're curious about their playability
the dino strains are confirmed to come back as playable
human-based strains? Maybe, but it'll likely be very late if they get plopped in-game; lore-wise, they will exist though.

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/995084695199039518/1140409409898565833/togif.gif

[acoustic osprey]

erm

wolves do not!!

[zealous void]

I’m curious if elders will progress into strains at all, I read it on the wiki and I need confirmation on whether or not it’s accurate

[acoustic osprey]

that info is from roughly 2021/2022 from trello, which hinted at such

but.......
we have no clue if that is still the case

[zealous void]

Interesting I don’t remember seeing anything about strains on the trello back then

[acoustic osprey]

it was hinted at on the desc
i can give the description if you want

[zealous void]

Sure

[acoustic osprey]

Elders are larger, more powerful variations of the adult stage of life. They are only accessible by following certain diet and perk pathways. While elders start off stronger than the highest tier adult of their species, over time they depreciate in strength until time releases them from their reign. You may choose to embrace death and die with a bonus you can apply to that species later on. Or, depending on your species, you can forfeit reward, deny the reaper for a time and extend your reign as something far more terrifying

[zealous void]

Oooh

I wonder how they will make that work, considering the amount of playables, I know they can’t all have strains

[deep cairn]

Strains? Man, it’s been a long time. Evil, devilish creatures. Just the name raises the hair on my back. Strains… gosh. Ten years ago an accident happened on gateway. And, let’s just say… it didn’t end well. A tussle between two dinosaurs… one being a strain… well, ended in complete disaster. Ten gash marks, 12 wounds. Is that enough for yah? His eyes, all gouged out. And his bones, all broken. Every single one. If you want to know something about strains, ha, well, there you have it. Sure go on, ask more, but hah, I doubt you’ll Handel it. See a strain isn’t a normal version of a dinosaur, it is a mutated, twisted version of that dinosaur. You wont find any strains in the fossil record, and you won’t spot one in nature. No. These were not made by god, they were made by man. Horrible, devilish man. The same man who thought making an island full of dinosaurs was a good idea. Jeez.. if only you know how bad it was. Gateway is cursed, cursed! We were so eager to prove we could do it, we never stopped to ask, if we should do it.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/chuck-mcgill-im-not-crazy-i-am-not-crazy-better-call-saul-bcs-gif-25855903

[deep cairn]

Hyperinfocring hipsi when skilled rex player walks into a bar

[zealous void]

It’s seeming like it might be carnivore specific, or even just to specific playables

By the way, what dinos have had confirmed strain counterparts? As far as I know, rex, carno, spino, giga, and utah

[acoustic osprey]

(we do know, though, that carnis are not locked to just strains - so herbi strains are possible)

[strange shell]

the hell do you mean wolves do not

[spark egret]

wolves do

they do woof woof

[acoustic osprey]

they do not alpha.... sorry

[weak finch]

@acoustic osprey since you mentioned it (and i forgot a whole lot about the lore) whats the replicator?

[acoustic osprey]

great question
basically, in legacy, was the AI system that would replicate your dinosaur every time you (in-lore 'the creature' of an EIP) died
then she would re-inject you into a new body
She also had a cultist following of her creations called Tribals (Generation One is their Evrima name) which made hand paintings of her as a CCTV

in Evrima
a bit more 'broad' but it might be 'similar'
whereas in legacy, it seemed to be more sci-fi-esque AI, Evrima's 'The Replicator' seems to be a collection of subsystems (a machine, say) that produces life
We also know that Generation Ones (Gen1s) also have an altar that they can sacrifice things to, presumably to The Replicator.
The TOMB (T.O.M.B.) is one subsystem part of The Replicator, which is a databank for EIPs and was also purged/attacked by "X" entity/entities
- EIPs (Embyro Intelligence Profiles) are (human?) consciousnesses that are injected into the bodies of creatures ... in legacy, this was all dinosaurs and potentially Tribals... but in Evrima? we're not sure who or whom EIPs are injected into

this is not the biggest wall, a bit compressed
but basically the general things off the top of my head related to The Replicator