isle-lore-theories

[fast forge]

I feel like megalania wouldn't have it, because they can actually survive the tussle, unlike a more fragile animal

[meager junco]

I mean idk about megalenia but Ik Komodo’s have been proven to have actual venom

[fast forge]

so aposematic coloration usually shows up in physically weak animals

bees, toxic frogs, smaller snakes

[bold crater]

-# so me suggesting it for Magy implies I think it's physically weak then.....aw

[fast forge]

or at least lives in an environment that it is more useful to be bright and scary than physically tough

[bold crater]

[hexed forge]

Island Dwarf Magy please

[bold crater]

I just figured since it's said to taste awful and foul taste can be reason to have warning coloration/patterns, it'd be neat if it had access to super bright details like Dilo and Troodon.

I mean I know for the most part, warning colors do jack diddly squat in a game but it's still COOL.

[hexed forge]

-# I cannot find the quote that says 12 Reapers, so Ima just go watch Arcane then. Adios.

[meager junco]

I wonder how they’re gonna introduce monos spit ability in the lore
Is it something like Augustus or was it designed to do this

[hexed forge]

I feel like it would be designed on purpose.

Has to do with its actual.. uh..inside body.. rather than physical capability

[fast forge]

it's kind of an evolutionary tug of war between

"I'm bright and scary! RAWR! Stay away!"
and
"I'm green and brown and want to hide in bushes"

You kinda can't do both

[lethal moat]

It’s in the long ass conversation with the terminal

[bold crater]

I WILL make my Magy obnoxiously bright.

[meager junco]

Would make sense if they designed it that way
Since monos head is basically the perfect type of head for that ability with the big nose

[bold crater]

Do we know if creatures can erm...."evolve" (AKA end up being weird after hatching from an egg or whatever) unique physical traits?
Like Augustus just figured out how to climb which isn't super duper physical.
But what about stuff like Magy's taste?

[hexed forge]

Naturally born creatures barely ever experience something anomalous

[bold crater]

Like a Magy hatches and as a response to predation, it just
tastes stank
and then AE is like "woah" and replicates

[lethal moat]

I’m of the opinion that AE doesn’t completely control everything the replicator does, like with AI made from machine learning

[hexed forge]

So probably not

All the interesting stuff happens to lab-created creatures

[bold crater]

Wait I must have it swapped then

I had thought it was the nested ones that can be interesting

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/life-uh-finds-a-way-it-be-that-way-it-will-work-itself-out-gif-16077053

[hexed forge]

Nope

[bold crater]

And replicated being boring

makes more sense the other way though

Persnaps it's like....nudges turning into shoves.
Like an animal is replicated with a very small "error" of sorts, replicated again, error is duplicated now, repeat until weird ability/trait.
Kinda like natural mutations.

If I understand it correctly, random mutation occurs and then that's passed down and becomes more common and so on until it's the norm.
Kinda sounds like Augustus.
But since it's a freaky god AI making these things, is it truly random chance and error? Or could it be intentional in some way? 😮

[meager junco]

I used to think replicator gave Augustus a lil nudge in evolution but now I’m not so sure

[hexed forge]

Im of the opinion that the only reason Herreras learned how to climb is because of one single EIP, AUGUSTUS.

But I might be wrong

[bold crater]

If it's intentional in some way
why?

[hexed forge]

One step for me... another step for my species.... wah oh

[bold crater]

I'm pretty sure from the trail cam video, Augustus was shown to climb which was seen as unusual and was later chosen to be replicated from that point onwards, thus making all new Herreras climb.

AE or whoever liked it enough to make it a thing

[hexed forge]

Correct

[hexed forge]

yay

[meager junco]

I mean this is going the route that replicator might be a bit sentient but
Maybe in the programming
Replicator sees a result that basically ruins AE in the long run, more strange things happen, less control of AE on the islands as more incidents happen,
But I’m honestly not sure anymore

[fast forge]

okay let me correct myself

it's rare to see both, but some animals have ways of hiding their aposematism until they need it

for example, rough skinned newts have a behavior known as the "unkin reflex" where they twist their body around and flip over, exposing a bright red belly

So in the case of magy it could have a hidden dewlap or something that is brightly colored, but still have naturalistic (cryptic) coloration overall

[bold crater]

I still believe the Replicator is self-aware in some way.
Maybe with personality, maybe not. (though I do recall something ages ago about it having an ego)
Could be a "uh uh, I know what's better for you silly humans"
Could be "beep boop me do right thing (it's actually wrong thing but it thinks it's doing what's right)"
Or it could be nothing.

[bold crater]

Dewlap coloration please

[hexed forge]

We know The Replicator isnt technically one thing...

Its several systems made up into one

TOMB being part of it

[bold crater]

Yes yes.
A collection of systems needed to create life.

[hexed forge]

mhm

Im still not very sure about the idea that The Replicator is sentient

[bold crater]

Heh, maybe it's like an octopus.
Each system having it's own "mind" in a sense like an octopus' tentacles.

[lethal moat]

I personally don’t think it is

[meager junco]

Yeh I agree, we talked about that in one podcast episode (I think it’s my favourite one as we had like 6-7 people in the podcast) but we talked about how maybe AE have a task that they didn’t even know what they were asking for
Like example: AE asks to replicator to make the perfect earth, replicator realizes humans are a blight to earth, replicator slowly tries to destroy humans(this is just an example)

[bold crater]

[fast forge]

I want it to be our villain

[hexed forge]

I HAD THE PERFECT MEME FOR THIS YET I LOST IT, I have to find it rq.

[bold crater]

If the Replicator did in some way have a mind/personality, I'd rather it be more of a "hey I'm just helping y'all"
"helping y'all" most likely having it's conundrums, similar to what Shadow said.
Can't put the genie back in the bottle!

[lethal moat]

I don’t think there needs to be a villain, in the situation of the isle, it can be yourself vs everyone else

[bold crater]

Like "mkay you asked for me to help, I'm helping, deal with it"

[lethal moat]

I think it’s a machine that has stipulations that you can learn to take advantage of that machine

[bold crater]

YOU WANTED EARTH TO BE COOLER
GIANT CRAB HELPS
WHAT IS THE PROBLEM

[lethal moat]

Giant crabs were an accident

[bold crater]

(yes I know the crabs were an accident)

[hexed forge]

Answer the call.

[bold crater]

[bold crater]

I doubt it has a physical body
but man I'd love if it did....

I mean....it might talk at least. I know Don talked about that once.

[hexed forge]

Well uh, it technically is physical, just not a physical body that it can control !

[bold crater]

:C

[lethal moat]

It’s been mentioned as a possibility once, but probably not

[bold crater]

Could honestly be unsettling if done right.
Less of a singular form, more of a presence.
It's the cameras, the wires, the monitors.

Ironically like a god of sorts.

[meager junco]

Took me a minute to find this

[bold crater]

[lethal moat]

WHY IS THAT CAMERA FOLLOWING ME SPECIFICALLY?
Awww, it likes you!

[bold crater]

Replicator Observation: On

[lethal moat]

mauled to death by gen 1 moments later

[hexed forge]

Theres a funny theory that someone just said and then left never to be seen ever again.

And it is that The Replicator is the character selection screen. The computer.

And funny enough I dont even think there is anything going against that theory to disprove it.

[fast forge]

or a human

central AI computing is the brain, various machinery are the body

[bold crater]

Hrmrmrmrm

[hexed forge]

This thing basically

[meager junco]

I wish don would show us the replicator concept since we most likely will never see it ingame

[hexed forge]

Is there even one?

[meager junco]

Just 1

[hexed forge]

hmmm

[bold crater]

Reminds me of an old movie....I forget the name.
Basically it's a computer that's like "would you like to play a game?" and it's lil war games
but unbeknownst to the players, it's actually affecting real stuff.
So the game is like "launch missiles?" and it's like "yeah! fun!"
but it's actually launching missiles in reality.

[meager junco]

He said he doesn’t think it’ll make it ingame but he didn’t say it’ll never come
Just sounds doubtful

[hexed forge]

huh

[fast forge]

(Spoilers)
|| Ender's Game|| has a plot like that

[meager junco]

Where in Tartarus did you get that

[bold crater]

Man
Cryptic stuff is fun and infuriating at the same time

[hexed forge]

I always find it so interesting to read these old AE transmissions. Its so interesting. I LOVE IT.

[bold crater]

Ah yes!
I 'member! kinda

[hexed forge]

Old Olympus Transmitter Transmissions

[meager junco]

Oh I thought you found something

[bold crater]

I do sometimes wonder how much cryptic stuff actually has hidden meanings and how much is literally just "I dunno it sounded cool"

[hexed forge]

For example this. About gen2. What the hell.

[lethal moat]

Give me Olympus Transmitter or give me death

[bold crater]

Neo sapiens

[fast forge]

would be cool to see again

[meager junco]

Didn’t Isaac say that Gen 1 and Gen 2 were being talked about before evrima came out

[hexed forge]

Quite literally "THE END IS NEVER THE END"

[hexed forge]

This is correct yes

[fast forge]

that would make it a new genus, and probably not human

(also the S should be lowercase)

[bold crater]

I've definitely done it when writing my own stuff.
"Oh yeah this sounds mysterious and cool!" (literally has no hidden meaning)

[lethal moat]

I can see it

[bold crater]

Darn I forgor....thenk you.

[fast forge]

Homo neosapiens would be fine

[hexed forge]

Oh thats interesting..

[bold crater]

Well, if our Gen 2 are replicated
are they truly human anyways?

[fast forge]

Neo also might already be a genius

[hexed forge]

Oh this is even better

[lethal moat]

We have this debate every so often

[hexed forge]

Woah I just had like 5 messages pop up in 1 second, internet please revive

[bold crater]

I mean our "dinosaurs" are really just things made in the image of dinosaurs.
Animals that are really really similar to dinosaurs but at the same time absolutely nothing like them. Barely even able to be called an animal.

What makes Gen 2 so different? >:)

[meager junco]

You have a point

[hexed forge]

Well

Do they have EIPs in them !!

[bold crater]

I do. And I plan to stab the lore in the heart with it!
And expose the secrets!

[meager junco]

We don’t really say “Dino replications” unless you’re actually talking about deep lore

[bold crater]

Can someone refresh my drink on what exactly an EIP is again ;>;

[meager junco]

Humans mind
Dino body

[bold crater]

Ah.
Grr.

[hexed forge]

Human consicneonsuawdwlajf (I cant spell this word) in different bodies

[bold crater]

Lmao I see I see

[fast forge]

The reality of taxonomic groupings is that there are no hard and fast rules that apply for all organisms

They are largely arbitrary groupings that we just made up because it makes it easier to understand our world

[meager junco]

I used to hate it, but honestly, in a world where a giant lizard ape man walks around, is that really far fetched

[bold crater]

I 'member now.
I had wanted it to be more like a template rather than the whole mind.

[hexed forge]

Also found this

NOVA.NEO.MAGNA.

[meager junco]

Oh maybe neo stuff is tied to Pheonix lore

[hexed forge]

Possibly

[fast forge]

So I'd say we need two conditions to say Gen 2 are human

• They are constructed from human parts, whether that's the physical stuff like muscles and bones, or just a shuffling of (mostly) human genes

• The researchers within AE who created them decided that they were human

THAT'S IT

[bold crater]

Like you want a house. You want it to be fancy.
Making a house from scratch??? Yikes, that's hard.

Taking an existing house and emptying it completely, then renovating it as you see fit? Much easier.
It's not just the old house with some new furniture here and there.
But it's got echos of the old one.

That but EIPs

[fast forge]

see this is how I think they made the dinos

replicator has this big genome bank, and it just used this and that protein from various animals (or humans) to construct something new

[meager junco]

Honestly that second point means more than we think
Especially when looking at like “why dinosaurs” probably because that’s what the ceo wanted to test on, nothing deep

[hexed forge]

"You are being controlled"

[meager junco]

We’re in phase three!

[bold crater]

It's not poor Craig's mind literally just copy-pasted into a Herrerasaurus.
But the template is there.
The template of a complex mind.

Maybe some echos here and there.
Craig LOVED the vending machines.
Perhaps this Herrera might look at vending machines oddly for a moment or two, then go back to being a weird monkey gator.
Nothing drastic like "OMG HE REMEMBERS"
but more like muscle memory.
The brain knows "hey something about this-"
and nothing more.

[hexed forge]

Phase 1 was uh, ehm, eh

Start of Evrima development I suppose

[fast forge]

it's like having a big box of legos from various lego sets, but use those legos to make a new thing,

[hexed forge]

But tbh, Phase 1 had PC connections.... but now that thats gone.. how reliable is it?

[bold crater]

https://tenor.com/view/exactly-meme-gif-339571032222189743

God is this it
is this lore-ing
it feels nice.

[fast forge]

signal from dockyard?

[meager junco]

Don is probably rewriting phase 1 and what it meant or maybe has already

[fast forge]

it can be fun, at least when we aren't just chasing our tails

[hexed forge]

This is on V3, morse code via radio tower.

Theres two dockyards on V3, big one and a small one. The smallest one is the closest to the tower. Im assuming that its from the big one

However, my mind just went to "Evacuation signal"?

[bold crater]

I've never been super well-versed with the lore, but wanted to try and theorize
it's satisfying having that "wait a heckin' second" moment

[meager junco]

I can almost remember the exact code it made because I used to spend a lot of time up at radio tower after hunting down at twins

[hexed forge]

Since dockyard would be the only way to leave the island

[bold crater]

Me yard

[hexed forge]

thanks

How long is 999999 days in years

[bold crater]

What does it MEAN

[hexed forge]

2739.. heh... its funny because..

Its close to the year 2172.. Which MIGHT be canon..

[bold crater]

Eehhhuugh I kinda hope not.

I mean really it wouldn't matter that much
it's just a year
but ehhh

[fast forge]

yeah only 600 years difference

very close

[hexed forge]

[bold crater]

600 years into the future
"hey look an M-16"

[meager junco]

It’s probably an error in the system

[fast forge]

this is also assuming 2739 counting up from the roman empire

[hexed forge]

FIGHTER JET ACTION IN THE ISLE 🗣️

@iron anchor

https://tenor.com/view/transformer2-avion-de-chasse-fighter-jet-f16-gif-18931146

[bold crater]

Well, 2739 is BGCI when converted to letters.
Prolly nothing but I dunno.

[hexed forge]

(This is obviously a joke)

[hexed forge]

oh..

[meager junco]

Yeh probably just a sign that the replicator is in the systems and messing with AE/staff

[fast forge]

wait a minute, Y2K could maybe cause this error

[meager junco]

LOOOL

[hexed forge]

I have no idea what Y2K even is

[fast forge]

that was the whole fear with Y2K, that clocks would reset weird

[bold crater]

[meager junco]

People believed in 2000 all technology would stop due to the dates being set up to 1999 only

[hexed forge]

Lmao

[fast forge]

a programming issue with computers in 1999/2000 where people were afraid the clocks would reset to year 0 instead of 2000

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

It was an actual issue, but programmers implemented fixes before the year 2000 hit, and some of the general public were a lot more afraid of it than they should have been

[hexed forge]

I love how the "Hades protocol" was the injection of Dryo, Diablo and Maia.

Such a dangerous trio

[fast forge]

conspiracy theories etc.

[meager junco]

They made a good treehouse of horror to represent what they thought would happen

[lethal moat]

Carnivore dryo

[hexed forge]

[meager junco]

Honestly, a dryo could probably mess up a human pretty bad

[fast forge]

basically like a deer

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/reload-shotgun-dale-gribble-rusty-shackleford-king-of-the-hill-gif-15641945943961425415

[meager junco]

Kicking like crazy even when you’re down

[fast forge]

and yeah, deer injure people every year, and people have died to them

[meager junco]

Usually when bucks are in rut

Aka mating season

[fast forge]

yeah they become very reckless

[hexed forge]

Ah no, it was referencing this

Allfather was a rex iirc, Thronebreaker was a spino? Alphonse was quetz

[meager junco]

Oh yeh those phases

[hexed forge]

Anyways

[meager junco]

Magna I believe

[fast forge]

As far as Y2K... if AE was already having issues with staffing or keeping facilities running, Y2K could have made a bad situation even worse

[meager junco]

Would be funny if one of the final incidents was due to the y2k bug

[lethal moat]

Operation Inferno part 2 electric boogaloo

[hexed forge]

This is interesting (Ignore the greetings message)

[fast forge]

people laugh about it now, but it was a serious concern back then

[lethal moat]

Olympus Transmitter my beloved

[hexed forge]

@bold crater Weird cryptic message about EIPs !

[fast forge]

that top left one is really interesting

[hexed forge]

yep

[meager junco]

Tbf I wasn’t even born yet, but I remember my dad telling my a lot of people were stressed, it looks silly now like you said, but it wasn’t back then
Hell you could even look back at Covid now and say “damn that was an interesting time” but really all we wanted to do during those 2-3 years was do anything but stay inside

[fast forge]

I was in middle school, and yeah, some people thought it would cause nukes to go off or all this crazy stuff

I'll reiterate that it would have been a serious problem, but people recognized the problem, worked together, and fixed it

[hexed forge]

This is the last cryptic message that I will post.

Kind of interesting how this is all taking place in POSSIBLY H4. The H4 that we know perhaps. And on gateway. So hm, presumably the rex is the one that broke out causing the containment failure. What rex do we hear in the AUGUSTUS video..

Shirley my beloved

Anyways this is probably just an empty connection

Ima ACTUALLY go now to watch Arcane, will be back in 40 minutes.

[lethal moat]

TRX 8443

Peace out

[hexed forge]

Might be the EIP number, but yeah, probably an empty connection.

[meager junco]

You’re a Dean lover hush

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-arcane-hihi-jinx-laughing-laugh-gif-12547472051577739039

[lethal moat]

Dean knows how to party

[meager junco]

DEAN IS WEAK

[lethal moat]

Dean is smort

[fast forge]

"Requesting Video Document #47"
"Fatality Investigation Report"

[muted reef]

What a fine evening it is

[meager junco]

Yeh well…Dean is weak!

[lethal moat]

Rip Craig

[muted reef]

Craigag?!

Craigos god of war?

[lethal moat]

[meager junco]

I wonder if we’ll get an incident report like the drive Craig concept art

[lethal moat]

Transmission is messed up, but they did make it

[meager junco]

Also missing the entire left side of the vehicle but they made it

[lethal moat]

They did also run over a kentro and pop a tire, but they made it

[meager junco]

I really hope vehicles are fun but a lot of maintenance

I want to be a mechanic when we’re at a base

[lethal moat]

I’d like to do logistics and go to scavenge

Lorecord controls one of the docks as a base of operations, that sounds fun

[meager junco]

I’ll do anything tbh
I just like the idea of maintenance and changing parts on vehicles and guns
(I’ll honestly do anything from mechanic to electrician as long as it’s in a video game)

[lethal moat]

Set up base in the cranes if you have a rifle

[meager junco]

Those cranes are honestly the perfect outpost

[lethal moat]

Sniper nest, only problem is there’s so much area to cover

[meager junco]

True but only like 2 ways a small predator can get to you, and that’s by the stairs, which someone can cover with a different weapon like a shotgun or AR

[lethal moat]

The spotter and the actual rifleman

[meager junco]

I doubt we’d get turrets but maybe some sort of proximity mine in the staircase would help

[lethal moat]

I can see like sound alarms, tripwires and whatnot

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-team-fortress-2-mvm-mann-vs-machine-scout-gif-9466896687214847048

[meager junco]

Hopefully we can turn the pump action we’ve seen into a sawed off

[lethal moat]

Shotgun with a pistol grip

[meager junco]

Better mobility but less accuracy

[lethal moat]

Use it inside

[meager junco]

Or go double shotty

One shotgun in each hand

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 big iron

[meager junco]

Sees a Gen 1 walk towards you with a cowboy hat on and a big stick on his side

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bushido-west-gif-20672030

[acoustic osprey]

No the neo stuff is related to Gen2s

Neo Georgians

[meager junco]

I see

[acoustic osprey]

No it wasn't

[hexed forge]

It just looked like it because it said "HADES protocol at 35%" and then it showed the injection statuses of those dinos

[acoustic osprey]

They're not the same tweet though

[fast forge]

this is just a style of architecture

[muted reef]

It would be me

[acoustic osprey]

One is from the 6th of March and one is from the 28th

[hexed forge]

It made it look like it is

[acoustic osprey]

Which is what Gen2s were

[fast forge]

wha

[acoustic osprey]

Look at the actual tweets

[fast forge]

Gen 2, as seen here

[muted reef]

Has anything lore impactful happened so far

[meager junco]

Not since dibble

[acoustic osprey]

No

[hexed forge]

RAHHHHH

The entire format made it look like the tweets were connected

[acoustic osprey]

Nuh uh

[fast forge]

I read this as "neonate" is the relevant definition, and "neo-Georgian" is just another example of neo being used

[acoustic osprey]

I know

[muted reef]

So its all the theorizing

[acoustic osprey]

It is just easier to refer to such for me

Because

[hexed forge]

There was some halloween zombie lore, just a tiny bit,

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/deep-magic-lion-witch-narnia-dont-recite-gif-14879671

[acoustic osprey]

Technically there was none

[hexed forge]

Okay grandpa take your pills now.

[acoustic osprey]

It is just so old now that is blends in together a lot more

But it was still neo

[lethal moat]

Lore for chrimmas, trust 🙏

[hexed forge]

Connecting some points to some of Don's messages was what it was mostly yeah

[acoustic osprey]

Which was of Gen2s

[fast forge]

me telling the youth about Y2K

[acoustic osprey]

Uh uh uh the video game series right with the basketballs?

[acoustic osprey]

Connecting no points to Don because nothing was ever given to begin with...

[hexed forge]

Im willing to bet a piece of a cookie that there will be another one of these "Dino T-CAM lore videos" with the release of rex or maia.

As sort of a release trailer, so they dont get screamed at for "False advertising!!"

[acoustic osprey]

To call getting no lore ... lore is almost an insult, Cerato!!

[meager junco]

I mean the Shirley lore video will probably drop a bit before Rex actually drops like Augustus and Herrera, but like cera has said, I bet they don’t want people thinking Rex is in the game and then get mad when it isn’t yet

[hexed forge]

The hand gif thing uh and tisso stuff........... yay..

[acoustic osprey]

If we get one...

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/pudgypenguin-hopium-penguin-gif-26360923

[hexed forge]

ANY PIECE OF LORE IS LORE

[lethal moat]

It wasn’t lore, it was the idea of lore

[acoustic osprey]

A gif that isn't elaborated on cannot be called lore...

[meager junco]

I’m pretty sure we’ll get some form of lore video for Rex, maybe just not now, maybe Shirley is more for strain stuff so dons keeping her hidden till then

[fast forge]

well I mean don did kinda confirm zombie tissos

which like, y'all were looking at old tisso concepts in here earlier, but I think it might be something completely different now if zombies are connected

[hexed forge]

But... zombie tissos connections to gameplay zombies theorizing... NHJ !!... all that sort of stuff

[fast forge]

Isn't NHJ also the name for the toggle in the admin menu? That kinda means it's a name they've applied to it, even if it's just for game design

[hexed forge]

Yes

[fast forge]

as opposed to random letters on the messed up mutation

[muted reef]

Btw why are the new diet symbols gonna be "a B Y" anyone know that?

[fast forge]

Greek letters

[muted reef]

For what

[fast forge]

I think it's just like another version of
Diet A
Diet B
Diet C

or

Diet 1
Diet 2
Diet 3

[hexed forge]

Will help expand the diet system in the future somehow, thats how I understood some of Don's comments

[fast forge]

oooooh, I didn't know that

[muted reef]

Is gamma c?

[fast forge]

I think so

[hexed forge]

The whole talk about uh, hold on.

[hexed forge]

Thats what I understood from these messages

[fast forge]

That second line of his makes me really happy
Finding weird plants in the jungle and they give you some bizarre kind of nutrient, or they change you, or unlock a mutation, or whatever
Also "plants and materials"
So not just plants

I like it because it's one more thing for the player to do in the game, and this game by it's very nature needs a lot of those

[hexed forge]

"Oh what is this weird liquid spilled on the ground.. let me drink it.... uhh.... "

[fast forge]

I want to find weird experimental goop deep down in some room in GUTS

[meager junco]

Neuro goo

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

yesss

[lethal moat]

Drink the forbidden soup

[fast forge]

lick the forbidden toad

[meager junco]

Need dinosaurs in labs that were in the middle of autopsies

[hexed forge]

Like that one neuro concept

[fast forge]

wouldn't they rot?
unless they evacuated like, yesterday

[lethal moat]

My thought as well

[meager junco]

Shhhh let me dream….

[muted reef]

How good is cerato vomit for rotting corpses now

[meager junco]

It’s fast, that’s all Ik

[acoustic osprey]

we gotta hope

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-hope-dangerous-gif-27052852

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/fingers-crossed-i-hope-so-please-please-gif-19730905

[acoustic osprey]

i still wouldn't call that lore
more so a footnote

[meager junco]

Some day….Shirley will shine

[acoustic osprey]

because we didn't actually get the lore of it

aka. the thing Don wrote for it

[hexed forge]

Would be cool if Shirley has some sort of unique skin rather than the default one.

Maybe green camo.. maybe some sort of dark brown... etc

[meager junco]

I wanted to ask don once but I just thought to myself, she’s probably default

[hexed forge]

Dean too then I assume

[acoustic osprey]

also, cerato (i am home now), Hade Protocol was almost quite likely a synonym for Code Hades
which was H-Carno

[meager junco]

Probably but who knows

[hexed forge]

Oh interesting

[meager junco]

I think tho maybe her model might be a bit different, same for Dean

[acoustic osprey]

also the EIP number in legacy, specifically, was your actual SteamID

wanted to reply to this earlier but was walking

[hexed forge]

We can only hope

[hexed forge]

Ah

Thats cool

[muted reef]

When is Kratos Protocol

[acoustic osprey]

bodyguard protocol

i wouldn't say it would be a protocol
if anything, a code

[meager junco]

Just pretend he’s talking about Dean

[hexed forge]

Poor dog dean

[meager junco]

[ornate comet]

I’d love a good trail cam video right about now

Doesn’t even have to have hidden lore, I just really enjoy watching the dinos interact

[hexed forge]

Im betting there is one with the release of a new dinosaur.

[ornate comet]

Also wouldn’t it be funny if human bases had intractable garbage cans and dumpsters so small things can rummage through them for some snacks and annoy people

https://tenor.com/view/police-racoon-dust-bin-police-racoon-racoon-dustbin-dustbin-trash-racoon-gif-26093417

The local troodon in the trash ⬆️

[lethal moat]

Oviraptor

[ornate comet]

+troodon

[acoustic osprey]

Both

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/both-agree-yes-good-gif-4591420

[hexed forge]

Velo..

[acoustic osprey]

Wavid

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-coogan-owen-wilson-jed-octavius-night-at-the-museum-gif-5235551

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/what-are-you-laughing-at-the-grinch-jim-carrey-how-the-grinch-stole-christmas-whats-so-funny-gif-18820313

[acoustic osprey]

(this being, all the TCAMs have been more so teasers/trailer for a dino release)

this saying... i hate to go off what Filipe has 'said'...
but

he did say Rex 2025, which i'm feeling Maia also next year as well
i CAN imagine a TCAM video by the very end of the year before break

but if we get Maia in HT by the end of the month or by Dec
don't expect a TCAM any time soon (as in by Jan), i reckon

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/we-got-hope-rango-hopeful-there-still-hope-dont-lose-faith-gif-18436798

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-gregory-house-sad-crying-compassion-gif-14821639

i do got hope for a TCAM by break
but

seeing as Nov is almost over
maybe not

potentially maybe for Dblog?

[hexed forge]

Maybe

[acoustic osprey]

did some calculations on my calc ||short for calc, if you're new to Lore Theories|| to see a better measurement of Gateway
using Eyes' better measurement of Gateway
(which puts Gateway, the whole level, at 12.2x12.2 from the game borders OR 12.3x12.3 if you're using Vulnona)

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205981060194893855/1308976865670860841/eyes.jpg?ex=673fe734&is=673e95b4&hm=084fb47e01c0aa26c40b0fda7348df19ab40bdf7479b99d630a1a4d0bcea090b&
the top lines is a fragmented ruler

(ignore the bottom)

each individual white line is 1km

or one 100 points per latitude (placed on the longitude, but the image of Gateway is from Vulnona which makes it 4096x4096 ... therefore 1:1 which means it does not matter what axis i use)

therefore
each line is 333px using Vulnona's 4k map

which makes Gateway at roughly ~149km^2 OR ~152km^2

but
what is the area of JUST Gateway? (excluding the islands)

by selecting Gateway through Photoshop
the w and h of Gateway, roughly
is 3542x3238px
which makes it 10.64x9.72km
or
11x10km
but this is the best answer because Gateway is on a slant

*which makes this 110km^2 *

However, if i do a bit more of a measured measurement of just Gateway now, which 'sections up' Gateway (the island) into a bunch of rectangles and squares
which will be a bit more accurate
we get:

2113x2912 - 6.34x8.74km
903x903 - 2.71x2.71km
593x680 - 1.78x2.04km
520x240 - 1.56x0.72km

which is roughly all the bits i measured

which makes Gateway's truer area at
67.50 km^2

or just 8.2x8.2km, which i wouldn't recommend saying as that would be more so if this calculation was if Gateway was a square (which it is not)

[hexed forge]

Thank you

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

it certainly makes saying Gateway's proper size better now

i am going to stick with both 12x12km and 11x10km

[hexed forge]

Posting this in here rq.

Made by Eyes in lorecord, all game maps, green is regionV2 and yellow is thenyaw I think.

That random island in the northeastern corner has interested me.

Why does it exist

Ptera heaven in gameplay, unless there was going to be some human structure stuff

[acoustic osprey]

Spero is 32x32
Spiro full is 20x20
V3 is 16x16
Gateway is 12x12 (technically 12.2x12.2)
Spiro playable is 10x10
Thenyaw is 8x8
R2 is 4x4

[hexed forge]

yay

[ornate comet]

where is gateway on here

im still dying from caffine rn and brain no work

top right? just with no seahorse island or whatever its called

[acoustic osprey]

Comparison of almost everything

[acoustic osprey]

unless we haven't found it yet...

the actual lore of the zombies...

[hexed forge]

Top right

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-about-me-gif-25775859

[acoustic osprey]

i swear i said to top right lol

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rizzler-rizzler-shocked-turn-turn-rizzler-turn-gif-18311864561988678064

[hexed forge]

All a dream

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

NHJ!!

Maybe Don made those Halloween lore papers with some of the zombie lore

[acoustic osprey]

NO NOT NHJ

[hexed forge]

Yes NHJ

[acoustic osprey]

the only way i'd accept it is if we knew what it meant

as in, accept it being lore we've gotten

rather than a footnote to remember once we get something more textural

[hexed forge]

It could be the name of the virus/parasite/etc

An acronym

[acoustic osprey]

could be IS NOT LORE!!

[hexed forge]

When did we last get proper lore, since the Dibble video?

[acoustic osprey]

proper hard textural lore
yes

but in terms of actual textural lore?
GUTS Hubs would be the last thing

[spark egret]

year 2046 teno got shadownerfed for 1000 times

[hexed forge]

Ah right

[acoustic osprey]

ye

[ornate comet]

Has dryo ever made an appearance in a trail cam

[snow jasper]

yea

it got dunked on by a herrera

[ornate comet]

Oh yeahhhh

Imagine a video where they put a GoPro on a dryo and record it running around its burrow

[hexed forge]

That sounds like something AE would do tbh

Test how Dryos interact in burrows

[hexed forge]

How did you take a picture of me.

[fast forge]

with my magic picture box
unfortunately it also steals your soul

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1257740793100238959/1297031567851655198/4x.gif

[fast forge]

Sir, this goes in #1308998339349708840

[acoustic osprey]

^

[lethal moat]

Excellent argument

[hexed forge]

oh

[ornate comet]

A trail cam with like a whole bunch of species would be cool too. But like the camera trap instead. Some video, some still images. Could hide some spooky stuff in the background and be like what triggered this to go off it’s just nothing

One blurry troodon picture as he’s zooming by and next one is like a maia herd going by

[lethal moat]

A trail cam that includes a named human character

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
less just of one camera

i think a 'unique tcam' video would be cool that

[ornate comet]

I’d love for it to be like a flash too

Lemme get a reference image

Like this. If the camera is triggered at night it has a big camera flash instead of just nv. Although having both would be cool

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/chunk-the-groundhog-chunk-groundhog-staring-staring-into-camera-gif-16517785

[ornate comet]

I need a minmi to do this

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

This is reminding me of that one JWD website that was made to create hype for the movie lol

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[hexed forge]

I think it was called Dino Tracker, smthn like that.

[ornate comet]

Yeah

Actually

What if we had a website that just posted a camera trap image twice a week or something

I bet everyone here would scour and brighten every image looking for stuff lol

[snow jasper]

isnt spec mode supposed to get such kits for us to make our own

[hexed forge]

Correct ^

[snow jasper]

yum

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

just we don't know if it'll be dynamic or not

[hexed forge]

Maybe some more info on it in the devblog

[acoustic osprey]

either a static watermark that doesn't change
or actually works to where you are

because we know Spec cam now updates where you are in the spec cam

as you can pick up sounds from the spec cam, not where your dino was last at

[acoustic osprey]

hopefully

hopefully comes with the UI overhaul

[fast forge]

the introduction of Dr. Rumple

[hexed forge]

Probably

[ornate comet]

Ben trail cam when

[ornate comet]

Is that from jwe2

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

^

[lethal moat]

[snow jasper]

guh

[fast forge]

if I ever write fanfic with human characters, you can bet you are going in

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

Dr. Rumple was the user behind the black box in one of my tests

Soo.. yes.

[snow jasper]

i would forever envy if rumple was made canon

[fast forge]

but my current story idea has no humans

[lethal moat]

Do not the Dr. Rumple, it doesn’t make sense

[hexed forge]

oh nvm its straight up visible.

RS

Rumple Stiltskin

[acoustic osprey]

insert EVERYONE is part of lore in Legacy lore 😊 !

[hexed forge]

Im 95% certain that Isaac will be introduced into the lore.

Its pretty much certain at this point

[snow jasper]

hm

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rizzler-rizzler-shocked-turn-turn-rizzler-turn-gif-18311864561988678064

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1056682947975073832/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[hexed forge]

You cannot deny your fate !

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-blobby-blobby-mr-rage-anger-gif-23724897

[acoustic osprey]

NO

[hexed forge]

No Mr. ... uh.. whats his name.. blobby?

[snow jasper]

yes

[hexed forge]

yay

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-northman-northman-reasonsimbroke-willem-dafoe-focus-features-gif-24200263

[fast forge]

would be fun to have various scientists and stuff like the SCP canon

[fluid geode]

So was the apollon K - Trifollium theory discussed? If there is one?

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

[fluid geode]

So, engineered plant, made assumably to feed the inhabitants in particular? People say they give better diet and food ratios?

[acoustic osprey]

So, engineered plant, made assumably to feed the inhabitants in particular
quite likely, in tandem with other more natural but still engineered plants- as it seems, looking at the Dibble video

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179605042618175488/1225368765278064650/NutrientCashewNuts.png?ex=6740f057&is=673f9ed7&hm=ee5eb477f7bca52637407343ab3a3eb25c8bb58fd7a903a9145aab3cd1bc7ef1&
making original plants more viable
and adding new ones

a bit like how we have Omniraptor but also normal dinos like Rex

People say they give better diet and food ratios
not too sure on this part though

[hexed forge]

That is true

They give more diet value, however Im not sure about the food value.

But the diet value is definitely more.

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

[fluid geode]

Shame there isn't one for lipids. Make it yellow, lol.

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

https://gyazo.com/5d42448e84cfdacb8396fd41323ace88
damn, going through some old AE-001 videos
FORGOT about how interesting its level design was

https://gyazo.com/ccc72c911d9a87d3963da49ecf6ebd24
this actually seems really cool

[hexed forge]

If someone can properly map it out, I bet someone will make it into a modded map

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[low scarab]

Very cool

[low scarab]

I’m very excited for modded maps

[fast forge]

I swear they can also spawn outside of migrations and patrols

I just see them in the middle of nowhere, no other diet plants around. Idk maybe it's just some patrol

[hexed forge]

You are just finding the patrols of other species/groups

[fast forge]

that's what I thought, but I know the patrols pretty well, and some of these are in pretty awkward places, not where I would expect a patrol

as I said, I could be wrong

[fast forge]

Trifolium is just the clover plant btw

We've been told the current model is temporary, but who knows if it will look like real clover

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, who knows

[fast forge]

I think it will, clover is pretty easy to model, but yeah

[acoustic osprey]

it could just go back to its latin roots (pun not intended) and just mean "leaf"

[fast forge]

it means "three-leaf"

I'm excited for this game to include more sci-fi elements

[acoustic osprey]

why

[patent ginkgo]

Trifolium seems so specific I wouldn’t doubt that we get a unique model

[acoustic osprey]

it is just weird they made several coloured versions of the current model

[patent ginkgo]

Many of the bushes have the leaf texture incorrectly mapped so that twigs and leaves are sprouting from random parts of the air, so I think these models were hastily put together cause they knew colorful bushes would work given the past

[fast forge]

pretty easy to just shift the colors on a texture file

[acoustic osprey]

yeah but why

[fast forge]

if I remember correctly blender even had a built in color filter or something like that when I used it

they provide different diets

[acoustic osprey]

but why

[fast forge]

idk lore?
don wanted 3 kinds of Apollan Trifolium?

[acoustic osprey]

just weird

[fast forge]

might have just been tied to the diet rework and patrols or something
more types of edible plants needed

like a game development reason

[hexed forge]

Probably is a game development reason for now

[muted reef]

The game is epic right now holy crap

Perhaps the best experience I've had in evrima in a long time

[hexed forge]

Is that actually you Catag

Are you finally back from hibernation

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey #1308998339349708840 message Art

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[fast forge]

I heard the pinging noise

I dunno there were a lot of sounds in game, but it really sounded like a ping

[muted reef]

That is peak

[acoustic osprey]

Mmmm

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/lemme-see-lemme-see-let-me-see-baby-yoda-gif-21233122

[fast forge]

unfortunately I wasn't recording

[fast forge]

@patent ginkgo I just realized that trifolium is yet another diet plant that is edible to humans

[patent ginkgo]

Mhm

[hexed forge]

Every plant is edible to humans, might change when they are properly worked on

[unborn knot]

fr?

[hexed forge]

yes

[patent ginkgo]

I think she meant Trifolium species irl are edible

[hexed forge]

She said "diet plant" so I figured ingame

[ornate comet]

Me eating the random red tiny plant that spawns on sand

Forgot the name

[patent ginkgo]

Dulse

It’s a macroalgae

[fast forge]

Well a lot of them are edible, but they aren't plants that we eat often nowadays

Some are used as traditional foods or medicine, but you aren't likely to see them at the grocery store

In fact there's lots of edible wild plants that just don't really get eaten any more

[ornate comet]

Gets me thinking about poisonous plants

And what if a human collects some then get like eaten in one bite by a rex. Does the human just dump his inventory in the ground or does the rex get sick cause he was carrying some like nightshade idk lol

[lethal moat]

Interesting tactics

[hexed forge]

Okay so

[acoustic osprey]

no

[hexed forge]

Ok

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[hexed forge]

What if I was about to say the most amazing theory ever to be heard.

[acoustic osprey]

fine...

[hexed forge]

I didnt have one,

This was an attempt to revive this chat.

SIte 12!!!

Possibly OLYMPUS in Evrima, possibly the map on the errant sheet, who knows !

I like both ideas, together.

[ornate comet]

game theory isle video when

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey .... ^

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rizzler-rizzler-shocked-turn-turn-rizzler-turn-gif-18311864561988678064

ah yes, let us get a content making corporate entity to cover Isle lore

rather than doing it out of the enjoyment and fun of it
having to do it because there is interest in covering it because that is what they have to do

[hexed forge]

Im calling you the game theory channel of The Isle lol

[acoustic osprey]

if it does happen, i won't mind
but i will be as critical i can be in analysis on their analysis

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-react-fish-react-him-thanos-gif-26859685

[hexed forge]

Someone call Jack to fish

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[zenith frigate]

fished

[hexed forge]

thanks

[fast forge]

This video does a good job at describing why my definition for "Is Gen 1 human?" is so shaky. It depends how you define it

https://youtu.be/XFvUlxj1axU?si=dnaUeYJkcx4ymxeO

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/wink-singed-arcane-turn-around-behind-you-gif-23774630

[lethal moat]

I default to “if you have to ask, the answer is no”

[hexed forge]

Its an artificial creature made to be used as a weapon, it doesn't belong to any species or genus.

Is what I like to say to the Gen1 question

[snow jasper]

But its not always no, and if it is, its No with a But

Theories stem from questions we ask, and in this case, we don't have the clues to give us a definitive answer
Thats the fun ( or pain ) in theorising

[fast forge]

so a war elephant or attack dog doesn't belong to any species or genus

[snow jasper]

The way I see it, say something remotely similar to what Dondi has already written, often times he likes to come here and add onto what people have said whether is adds more clues to point us in a general direction of understanding.
Saying no and not why is a blunt end to me

[hexed forge]

Are those artificial creatures?

[snow jasper]

Easy to define existing modern creatures at hand
Not easy to define fictional creatures with 0 records or information on it

[snow jasper]

I dont think it matters if something is artificially created or born naturally

[fast forge]

who says artificial species automatically don't have genus or species?

As a biologist I'm telling you there's 0% evidence that's how we would classify them. Speaking from within the scientific community, I'd say there's a 99.9999% chance that we would classify them, if only because biologists love to classify things

[hexed forge]

How does it not matter?

If its an artificial creature made in a lab it doesn't belong to any natural species or genus.

[snow jasper]

Is the theory of life a product of a complex reaction made from a chemically rich hot spring still supported?

[hexed forge]

AE Classified them

Classified them as a weapon.

M9, AK-47, AR-15,

[fast forge]

dogs are an artificial species my guy

[snow jasper]

Define artificial

[fast forge]

even that definition is weak if you take a broad look at the planet

[hexed forge]

Made by humans in a lab, out of several... "things?"

Cant find a correct term for what I mean by "things"

[snow jasper]

Dogs were created through humans choosing desired traits, its more the product of forced evolution

[fast forge]

we don't even know what they are made from

they could be 98% human genetics for all we know

[hexed forge]

Its not like you take an already existing species and just add some traits to it, kind of like what Run said.

[fast forge]

And like, did you watch the video? The video explains it pretty well

[snow jasper]

This is where my knowledge on the replicator ends, I dont know how it creates life, does it just create it through a complex reactionary process, creating a whole new evolutionary lineage species substrate?
Or does it do some fictional unrealistic jurassic world Indominus Rex shenanigans

I think substrate is the wrong word to use

[fast forge]

you're right, biological weapons never get genus and species name

[hexed forge]

We dont know anything about how they are made, yes.

[fast forge]

Biologists made Gen 1, and biologists love to name stuff, that's pretty much my best evidence

[hexed forge]

An artificial genus then,

Not part of the Homo genus

So not Human

[fast forge]

did you watch the video?

[hexed forge]

No.

Is there something artificially made that goes under a natural genus? Just a genuine question here.

[fast forge]

natural genus? we made up the genera

it's literally just a matter of how humans choose to categorize

[fast forge]

go back and watch it, otherwise you are arguing a point without any of the context that started the conversation

[snow jasper]

How do you define a lifeform by genus and species, when you don't even know if it was created from scratch, its easier if it used pre-existing genes from pre-existing lifeforms that are already the products of billions of years of evolution

[hexed forge]

A genus that does not include artificial creatures.

A term that I made up I suppose, I dont know how else to describe it lel.

[fast forge]

Your dogged determination to define what it isn't based on basically no information and eschewing all standard scientific protocol is silly, I'm sorry

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/pete-postlethwaite-drinking-coffee-drinking-lancashire-england-uk-gif-20482786

[fast forge]

Look up "artificial species" on google, it will show you a dog

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/walker-cordell-walker-cordell-jared-padalecki-jared-walker-gif-20179529

[fast forge]

These distinctions of artificial and natural are not important for scientists, that's my point

[hexed forge]

Back to playing games

[snow jasper]

Can we talk about this pls

[fast forge]

we literally do not know

my best guess as a biologist is that it has a repository of genetic data (what we call a gene bank), and it draws upon this information to create organisms, similar to a generative "AI" using a database of images to create something "new"

[snow jasper]

Gen 1 is an Unnus Annus

[fast forge]

Memento mori

[snow jasper]

oh thanks

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-unus-unus-annus-annus-dancing-gif-19184180

[snow jasper]

Such a gem that show

or channel, idk

[fast forge]

it was a fun experience

although it was clear it was a struggle for them sometimes to do a video every single day

[snow jasper]

didn'tthey prerecord them a week ahead or something

oh well

I wonder, if we were to find an organism that evolved from nothing but the chemicals its made of, would it share the similar metabollic functions on a cellular level, or would it find different processes of performing the same sort of function, or even go as far to exist chemically different on a cellular basis, like, not even being made up of what we know cell membranes, organelles and nucleotide stuff to be made up of

https://tenor.com/view/oppenheimer-oppenheimer-movie-barbie-oppenheimer-meme-cillian-murphy-theory-gif-8102327772591152629

[spark egret]

it’s not how it translates😭

[ornate comet]

I had a dream that the ui update happened but it was a troll because everything looked like it was made in ms pain lol

[snow jasper]

its close enough

its idiomatic anyways

[acoustic oracle]

So hear me out,

[snow jasper]

👂

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/so-bored-waiting-still-mr-gif-25683674

[fast forge]

That new canyon(?) that runs from south plains to the swamp seems to follow a similar path to one of the lines on the concept map

Monorail?

[hexed forge]

Possibly.

The old monorail that was there went through there, except it went north and into south dome/the atrium.

[fast forge]

That canyon always puzzled me

the little dip at the end is what convinces me

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

Looking closely, I found another line on the map that lines up with the monorail path

But I've never noticed this one while playing

[hexed forge]

Mhm, where the old monorail went.

There's one in Northern Jungle too iirc.

[acoustic osprey]

iirc Don just said this was just a sand trail coming from the beach
but he didn't really elaborate

[acoustic osprey]

those lines are real tiny and covered in bushes

they're pretty wacky
usually in real thick areas where the devs haven't really done much touching up

[hexed forge]

I hope we get to see monorails ingame next year, since GUTS will get a lot more work.

[acoustic osprey]

mm

[fast forge]

yeah I looked at it last night, it almost looks like an overgrown road but it's a bit too narrow

yes monorails would be very cool, and add a ton of aesthetic

[hexed forge]

Thats where the old monorail went through.

[fast forge]

fun to see that we might get some kind of port near the mud flats

[hallow ruin]

this looks more like a monorail/GUTS entrance

[fast forge]

no those are a triangle, ports are these U shapes

[hallow ruin]

interesting

[fast forge]

We have a number of entrances on the game map right now that match up with the concept map, and they are all triangles (entrance) at the end of a line (road)

Ports seem to be a u-shape, which makes sense for a dock

For an example of the triangles/GUTS entrances, here's the volcano

[regal horizon]

@hexed forge this aged poorly

[hexed forge]

I never said which year

[hexed forge]

NOO

[regal horizon]

xD

[low scarab]

lol

[fast forge]

RIP

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/freddie-mercury-queen-another-one-bites-the-dust-gif-12588862

[acoustic osprey]

2172

[hexed forge]

Perhaps!!

[acoustic osprey]

mayhaps

[muted reef]

We thought dibble was gonna be in april and rex/trike in summer

What dreamers we were

[acoustic osprey]

and still are!!

[hexed forge]

Dreaming is what keeps me going

https://tenor.com/view/it-wont-stop-ed-mayor-of-kingstown-its-never-ending-its-still-going-gif-24475699

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hera-syndulla-star-wars-rebels-we-have-hope-ezra-bridger-things-will-get-better-gif-12862483

[hexed forge]

Exactly.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/now-we-wait-leonardo-da-vinci-aidan-turner-leonardo-we-have-to-wait-gif-21592524

[hexed forge]

And sleep.

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[keen shuttle]

Is the T-reaper actually confirmed or nah, randomly started thinking about it an looked in the evrima info wiki but it says it's possibly scrapped, both the creature and strain.

[strange shell]

Tissoplastic reaper has been scrapped until further notice
The tissoplastic strain itself is being reworked

[steel summit]

sadly yeah

[bold crater]

If I recall correctly, the design was scrapped, but not the creature.
Though this may be incorrect and it's not scrapped at all based on something Lightclaw said....which I forgor....

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[nimble fractal]

Wish tisso was like
A plague that makes you mutate uncontrollably

[snow jasper]

i dont like it

[lethal moat]

Don’t trust the wiki, tissos are still around and last I checked, tissoplastic humanoids were also still planned

[keen shuttle]

good to know, im really vibing with the idea of a hyper stealthy night terror, design reminds me of something from WolfTeam

[lethal moat]

We do know they regenerate lost limbs/organs

[fast forge]

I still think tissos won't be like the old concepts at all

Gimme horrible zombie monsters

Organ donor transplants gone wrong

[meager junco]

I don’t really see tisso as a zombie strain, more of an incredibly durable creature that takes a lot to take it out, kind of like death angels or clover from clover field

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/mahoraga-makora-jujutsu-kaisen-gif-15349122341911766662

Just regenerates too fast. Imagine.

[hallow ruin]

kinda agree with shadow, i dont see them as zombies at all

tho its a poor example, but id say its like indo-rex to the JW movie's world, how it was the perfect killing machine and almost impossible to guess its next move

[hexed forge]

[hallow ruin]

cerato ur not gonna disagree with every single theory i ever had about everything 😭

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

I can imagine zombie as in, they will just continue to go after you after horrendous damage, it'll heal afterwards I think, but the horror of a mutilated creature clawing after you after it should have been long dead

[hallow ruin]

yes hypos are tuff and fight againts time to not die, yes neuros are smart (and many other things)
but im pretty sure tissos are lets say... the best? maybe for what AE intend?

[snow jasper]

hypo?

[hallow ruin]

which i believe makes this more reasonable is that matriarch is a byproduct of it

[hallow ruin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720007490145747026/1045462765910884442/pies.gif

[hallow ruin]

because like, perfect organism and such

[fast forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

y'all are stuck in the past

[hallow ruin]

i dont know what monkey paw means.

[lethal moat]

A wish granted, but not how you expect

[fast forge]

a monkey paw will grant your wish, but it will turn out badly instead

but it effectively confirms zombie tissos

[hallow ruin]

oh so its like "i wish i got money" |
yes u get money but ur now paralyzed

[hexed forge]

A zombie tisso that isnt exactly how you think it would look like-

[hallow ruin]

thats really cool and really interesting

[snow jasper]

How the hell do you guys understand wish granting from a monkey paw

that such an inside sort of thing, i hate that, a lot

[hexed forge]

I think its the same way a thumbs up means "Yep" "Agreed" "Cool" etc

Formed through internet culture idk

[lethal moat]

5 million pennies flood the room

[fast forge]

lol the money paw gif is from a Simpsons episode in the 90's

[snow jasper]

I hate english idioms

[hallow ruin]

oh this type lol

[hexed forge]

yay

[fast forge]

my point is that it existed well before internet culture

But really my point was that we have no confirmation of old tisso concepts under the new canon

Literally our only piece of evidence about tissos in the new canon is this bit about zombie tissos

[hexed forge]

And that they can regenerate limbs/organs

[fast forge]

true true

but I'm just saying all the legacy players should maybe start to redefine their headcanons

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-who-doctor-who-10th-doctor-tenth-doctor-10th-doctor-regeneration-gif-1708096717971207970

[hexed forge]

Why the hell are you awake

[lethal moat]

We know very little

[hexed forge]

But the Tissoplastic design from legacy was so good imo

I hope it stays relatively similar, but different.

https://tenor.com/view/the-interview-james-franco-david-skylark-same-but-different-but-still-same-gif-4956158

[fast forge]

nah, just feels like a pointier hyper to me

I like creepiness and gore and organs hanging out

[river marsh]

From what I remembered of tisso ages ago, it was said to have camoflauge and essentially just be a death sentence if it decided it wanted you dead. Smallest of the strains, but the fastest and the most lethal.

....how did we get from that to even the remote idea of it being zombie-like??? That seems more up endo's alley to make mind slave drones /gen

[fast forge]

you are describing legacy tisso concepts

the zombie idea is very new by comparison

[lethal moat]

Evrima rework changes stuff

[hexed forge]

A way smaller and agile hyper too I guess.

[river marsh]

Thats true. Did we get any updated concepts? 👀 or no. Prob not i assume ooft

[lethal moat]

Sadly no

[hexed forge]

Small boy

[lethal moat]

If Dondi would like to mysteriously appear and drop epic lore, that would be cool tho

[hexed forge]

Gotta summon him using the "hi" ritual

Hi Dondi

[river marsh]

Im ngl i do hope they stick to the old concepts. Ik there was conflict with magna. But the strains looks very fun

[lethal moat]

Neuro, Hyper, and Tisso stay, magna is reduced to atoms

[river marsh]

Yeah. Honestly magna made very little sense from a lore or balance standpoint. Cool concept though!

[hexed forge]

Magna is basically PC's rex.

iirc it was part of the "Thronebreaker" phase in legacy lore

Its stronger than Hyper rex

[hallow ruin]

no, thats zombie, im okay with it being close to zombie but not look zombie

[hexed forge]

Well, assumed to/meant to be stronger than hyper rex.

[fast forge]

nahhhhhh

pointy tisso is boring

[lethal moat]

I think the opposite

[hexed forge]

If anyone interested for Context

[fast forge]

get with the new canon, grandpa /s

[river marsh]

Yuuuup. Interesting times back then

[lethal moat]

THE FUTURE IS NOW OLD MAN

[hexed forge]

You say that while Im probably the youngest in this chat lol.

Its interesting to study history !!

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/pete-postlethwaite-drinking-coffee-drinking-lancashire-england-uk-gif-20482786

[fast forge]

you whippersnappers with your old-timey outdated ideas

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-cat-ai-cat-beer-mage-cat-gif-12868949205036685497

Since Magna was kind of Legacy lore, I wonder if the Novaraptor was part of the M-Strain lol.

But anyways this is all PC lore now ahwhahsaqqw

[lethal moat]

I agree, but in this situation and many others, use lots of grains of salt

[ornate comet]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-you-are-a-toy-you-are-a-minor-minor-meme-gif-24627767

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[acoustic osprey]

Spino from PCE

[hexed forge]

Oh was Magna rex "Allfather" then?

[acoustic osprey]

Big Daddy was the explicit Rex from PCE
but Project All Father was AE's first attempt at making a perfect organism

which turned out to be Magnatyrannus solus

[hexed forge]

Ah I see

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
it is not really an attempt if they stole/plundered the information from PI lol

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/back-to-the-future-taking-notes-notes-michael-j-fox-im-writing-this-down-gif-16242461

[acoustic osprey]

User Inquiry: Phoenix.
Operation Inferno was a success.
Phoenix assets are required.
Phoenix Assets:
-All-Father
-Throne-Breaker
-Alphonse
-Nova
Replicating.
Inquiry: Nova
Designate Novaraptor.
Status: Replicating
User Inquiry: Atrium C Status and Location
Original location destroyed by Operation Inferno.
Transferring to Island Three.

[hexed forge]

Is Operation Inferno AE or PI?

Im assuming AE, right?

[acoustic osprey]

AE ⚔️ -> PI ☠️

[hexed forge]

Ah....

Didnt know they also took a novaraptor

They basically just took those 4 assets and destroyed that location lol

[acoustic osprey]

with the cooperation of PI's CEO

[hexed forge]

Maybe with Gen1s in current lore doing what they did to PI would be much easier now. 😊

https://tenor.com/view/a-quiet-place-day-one-a-quiet-place-death-angel-a-quiet-place-day-1-a-quiet-place-death-angels-gif-15021035316779473270

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/robotnik-locked-in-farmboy64monet-farmboy64-eggman-gif-9130093786724672043

I mean, i suppose we weren't supposed to root for AE back in Legacy times
seeing as we owed AE (supposedly, presumably, directed towards us the players)
and that AE literally destroyed and took the remains of PI

to be fair though
I'm not actually too sure of the timeline of Operation Inferno vs PC/PCE lore

i cannot remember how much of actual PC/PCE lore Dondi wanted to embed, like the actual aspect of needing to bring Mercs onto PI islands

because, I suppose Operation Inferno could be seen as a saving grace
destroying these places to allow these places to finally rest from the very 'savage' dinosaurs

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

PC dinosaurs being the savage ones? Or just dinosaurs in general that were created by any company.

[acoustic osprey]

just a little thought because I wonder how much Don wants us to 'care / root' for AE in actual current lore

[hexed forge]

I could see how PIs dinosaurs are savage, they were made to be that way iirc.

[hexed forge]

He made it sound like AE isnt an evil company. So I suppose he wants us to root for it.

[acoustic osprey]

yes PI's ones

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, we're really yet to see

just because it is not generically evil, doesn't mean we have to root for it innately

i'm curious to see what direction he'll take / has taken
once we get to see some actual action of the company properly in lore

rather than just worded information

i don't mind if it'll be a mixed bag of ethics and morals

i can imagine someone very religious being very against the idea of what AE is doing
and Ian Malcolm with Chaos Theory

and therefore, as a person reading about lore, you have a choice to actually examine AE's qualities and say if you argue with them or not

[hexed forge]

Mhm,

Some actions made by AE could seem like immoral to some people. For example what we know about EIPs, it happens in this chat (Some people viewing it as immoral, and some viewing it as acceptable)

I dont think its possible to get everyone to root for AE.

[hexed forge]

yay

Reminds me of the Helldivers community lol.

Giving the community choices in what side to believe in

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

my dream for isle lore gameplay is that, in the future, we can have community driven lore aspects
similar to what SoT did

once the general foundation and general storylines have been actually done

[hexed forge]

What did SoT do?

[ornate comet]

Do you think ae is an inclusive workplace lol

[acoustic osprey]

community driven lore events

[acoustic osprey]

to what regard?

[fast forge]

From those conversations I got the vibe that he wants AE to feel like a real company, not some mustache-twirling villain. Real companies can do both great things and terrible things, and I see AE in the same light

[hexed forge]

Ah yeah

[acoustic osprey]

(two sides for both of them)

reapers vs athenas
one event was to save or destroy an island
one event was to save a good character or evil character

[ornate comet]

Diversity, I’d imagine they would have like inclusivity posters and stuff just to improve their imagine like some soulless companies have today

Was mostly just making a joke tho

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lego-movie-lord-business-its-just-business-just-business-its-nothing-personal-gif-25180420

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't imagine diversity
i'd imagine, being the time they would've been super active, wouldn't've had had any need of 'diversity'

more so, likely, just skill and a good resume

[hexed forge]

Ohh yeahhh

I remember that in season 13 I think, might be 12.

Flameheart/Burning blade vs I forgot what the other side was called

[acoustic osprey]

but propaganda? Yes

[fast forge]

We know AE has a lot of weight in medical advancements, and if EIP tech becomes public that could be an amazing boon to mankind

But we also know they've made monsters

[hexed forge]

I dont think EIP tech would become public imo,

Kind of goes against the entire idea of the Thousand Life Contract

[acoustic osprey]

not really

[hexed forge]

Maybe available to the people that can pay for it? (The wealthy)

[acoustic osprey]

if anything, EIP tech could go public years after

like a vaccine, you need proper amount of time before you should be giving it to the public

in this case, it is a lot more ethically ambiguous with EIPs

[ornate comet]

Forgot what eip is again, isn’t it the consciousness transfer. Brain is mushy from college

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[lethal moat]

Embryo Inteligence Profile

[hexed forge]

Maybe, but I doubt it.

I would accept it if it becomes a thing though

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/muneh-rdr2-arthur-morgan-gif-20022681

[lethal moat]

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth
-AE probably

[ornate comet]

AE should sell dino eggs (unfertilized). Hypsi omelet

[hexed forge]

If their goal is immortality,

They better start investing into space technology after... (Earth might start filling up with too many people haha)

The Isle 2, Dinosaurs into space.

[ornate comet]

The isle: sister location and it’s just the microscopic world

[acoustic osprey]

if they achieve immortality
how much of the world would stop

critical question

[nova knot]

Imo beipia smth else taste like chicken with some flavor

[acoustic osprey]

if everyone was immortal
why achieve anything else

[nova knot]

It Probably taste mad good

[acoustic osprey]

gotta put some chicken salt on it

basically IFC
Isle Fried Chicken

[pulsar sentinel]

why tho

[nova knot]

The Isle should create a fast food and sell things with they creatures name

[acoustic osprey]

it would be funny to see if we got this in the commercial area for the Hunting Lodge lol

[nova knot]

Ceratosauros would Probably taste bad
Its flesh should be rubbery and have a bitter taste.

[nova knot]

Very crunchy

Same as deino

[nova knot]

Hope we get it

Dilophosaurs would be like puffer fish
If prepared poorly it would be deadly.

[hexed forge]

Pure human curiosity

[lethal moat]

What about overpopulation if people don't die anymore

[hexed forge]

Refer to my previous message of investing in space technology

[ornate comet]

Geneva suggestion

[lethal moat]

The sheer difficulty and steep initial costs makes me question weather or not it'll actually happen, because it's not super profitable given our current technology

[hexed forge]

Mmmmmm

But in AE's universe

[pulsar sentinel]

I would hate to be immortal. only thing scarier than death is never dying

[hexed forge]

Could be more possible in AE's universe. Especially if you look at the technology that they have in the 90s.

But yeah, this is assuming if AEs goal is immortality. Which we dont know yet

[acoustic osprey]

Pure human curiosity
like?

[lethal moat]

I don't think so

[hexed forge]

Lets nuke eachother and see what happens to our immortal bodies.

Thats the kind of curiosity that might happen.

[hexed forge]

I dont think so either

[acoustic osprey]

500 words done for ERRANT-291 right now

roughly 5 minutes or so for the video basically ready as a script

woohoo

[hexed forge]

Very nice

Will you do an AUGUSTUS analysis after?

[acoustic osprey]

potentially

i think i'll do the loreberg though after errant-291

[hexed forge]

Can't wait for all of them

Will the loreberg be like one super long video or broken into multiple videos?

[acoustic osprey]

one big one!!

[hexed forge]

Uh oh

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[lethal moat]

New thought

What if the matriarch does evolve using dna from things that it eats, but most things aren't strong enough to use, so matriarch gameplay could be searching out pure samples to evolve

[sharp berry]

I think file 2614 explains all of the lore

[acoustic osprey]

2172

[sharp berry]

nuh uh

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/eating-planet-eater-unicron-transformers-gif-10944298

[sharp berry]

(I jsut made up a random name thinking I would sound smart making yal think I know the lore)

[fast forge]

pure samples? like what?

[sharp berry]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-millenium-falcon-explosion-explode-flames-gif-4289251

[lethal moat]

2172 is skeptical at best

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

pft

[sharp berry]

pft

[fast forge]

tfp

[acoustic osprey]

at least it actually exists

unlike Matriarch lore 😊

[lethal moat]

DOES IT THOUGH

[acoustic osprey]

basically everything else discoverable makes sense... why not 2172...

[sharp berry]

what about 5282395

[lethal moat]

Everything else is gibberish

[sharp berry]

??

[acoustic osprey]

no

seven minutes matches up
alongside the dates, excluding the year

hence why i said everything else discoverable!

because there are a lot more unknown though

[acoustic osprey]

welcome to the isle lore!!

[lethal moat]

I'll give you seven minutes, but I don't trust hardly any of that

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/gioated-family-guy-peter-griffin-crazy-straightjacket-gif-20619219

[fast forge]

For context, this was posted by don a while ago

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1040046088691920997/SPOILER_Summary-E291.png?ex=67465a66&is=674508e6&hm=3a4bfe8d0fc7a8cdb6260b6a6ae62385931d352f3fc75d74645bdfc7ca960957&

[sharp berry]

what about file 5282395

[acoustic osprey]

in #isle-phase-three

[lethal moat]

We don't have it yet

[sharp berry]

https://tenor.com/view/waffling-gif-26189788

[fast forge]

yeah I meant to link to the post, but just linked the image instead...

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-tenth-doctor-david-tennant-point-u-no-u-gif-24987731

[sharp berry]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-toes-lol-gif-25857743

[acoustic osprey]

have you actually read any isle lore yet, monitor

[lethal moat]

This is my third time seeing this today

[acoustic osprey]

rumplestiltskin

[sharp berry]

nah im just throwing out random numbers

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit Read this stinky

[sharp berry]

https://tenor.com/view/rumplestilskin-shrek-gif-25306253

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-tenth-doctor-david-tennant-point-u-no-u-gif-24987731

[acoustic osprey]

erm

[sharp berry]

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-arsenko-rumpelstiltskin-злий-сміх-gif-16460057

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/windows-xp-startup-dell-monitor-gif-13675491

This you?

[sharp berry]

no I actually have a ASUS ROG Strix XG27AQDMG and a ASUS ROG Swift OLED PG34WCDM

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[sharp berry]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-explosion-planet-gif-17101879

[lethal moat]

Imagine if these guys all teamed up

[sharp berry]

want to know my pc parts too?

[lethal moat]

Nah, I'm good

[sharp berry]

they are really nice :D

[lethal moat]

Mine are not lol

[sharp berry]

fine >:(

[acoustic osprey]

how many of each though

[lethal moat]

12 reapers, 3 colossus, 2 echidna, and a partridge in a pear tree

[acoustic osprey]

heck yeah

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/its-beautiful-orson-krennic-star-wars-gif-27444911

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/beautiful-star-wars-beauty-admire-in-gif-12393901

[acoustic osprey]

i know actual Ben will never get to see any canon light of day ||being that it'll only, if ever, be in a vat that quite likely wont see actual day light 😔 ||
but she is a crazy isle meme that i need to have modded in properly

[lethal moat]

There’s like, 5 different versions of that

[acoustic osprey]

yeah lol

[muted reef]

Idc if he's in a vat I want it

[muted reef]

One is in each of the biome domes trust

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[muted reef]

You tell me

[muted reef]

[lethal moat]

There’s currently only 2 domes on gateway

[muted reef]

I know that

Wait as in perimeter plus another or perimeter plus 2 others

[lethal moat]

Perimeter plus one

[muted reef]

When did the other one get removed

Which one was it

I'm getting on shirley

[lethal moat]

East dome and the one by swamp are gone

[muted reef]

So both swamp updates removed the domes then

Coincedence...I think not

[acoustic osprey]

last HT iirc

[muted reef]

Yeah well I was on red dead the whole time

[acoustic osprey]

why

[muted reef]

Why not

So now we have perimeter and the crappy bugged out north dome

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979068332886077490/1309832507696484363/PgeTNsKj.gif

pretty much, yeah

[hexed forge]

Maybe one dome will be brought back but placed in a different location. Maybe...

[zenith frigate]

On top of the other dome

[hexed forge]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[icy onyx]

hooray

[snow jasper]

I hope

I feel as though the removal of the dome wasn't necessary