isle-lore-theories

[sharp agate]

cool

[acoustic osprey]

if anything
anything we had of Spiro in lore (which was like two things) could get rewritten / deleted, basically

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/grabby-hands-give-me-i-want-you-me-want-me-want-food-gif-24520158

[acoustic osprey]

F5.! !!!

[sharp agate]

[acoustic osprey]

mew (the one)

[patent ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1275981036857327666/DocTriggeredSPEED.gif

[sharp agate]

mew and mewtwo have lore prallels to the isle

[lethal moat]

Mew is a good pokemon, it’s adorable

[sharp agate]

mewtwo is a mew strain

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/thypn-gif-21039932

[lethal moat]

I don’t know very much pokemon lore yet

[sharp agate]

mewtwo was humans attempt at making mew

[acoustic osprey]

two identical EIPs
unsure if each other are truly real
1000 lifes they have lived — what even are they anymore

[sharp agate]

mew is also an almost omnipotent being, and is supposed to be a primordial ancestor of all pokemon

[acoustic osprey]

pov it went terribly wrong

[sharp agate]

yeah

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/baldi-baldis-basics-mogged-mog-rizz-gif-11774215665411580343

[patent ginkgo]

[acoustic osprey]

humans did create mew
just yeah, mewthree didn't really end up what we thought it would've

[lethal moat]

I thought it was mewtwo?

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

[sharp agate]

mew is a natural entity

i've never heard of mew being artificial

[lethal moat]

Same

[sharp agate]

ditto is supposed to be a failed mew experiment

[acoustic osprey]

do you get it or no

[patent ginkgo]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[hexed forge]

Was it though?

Errant released in 2022

Almost 2023 basically

[fast forge]

where does Baldi factor into isle lore

[hexed forge]

me

[fast forge]

oh

[icy onyx]

oh

[zenith frigate]

oh

[hexed forge]

Thank you guys

[lofty swallow]

does this mean they did so many failed experiments before mewtwo due to the fact you can catch ditto just in grass?

[sharp agate]

probs i'm not sure! originally it in Kanto it was only found next to the lab, but maybe ditto itself has become its own species and multiplied? idk

we should probably stop talking about it though

BUT to relate it back to isle and JP, that is essentially what happened with the dinos.

[hexed forge]

I believe this channels name isnt Pokemon-Lore-Theories

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/cant-read-gif-22252869

[hexed forge]

Oh

[icy onyx]

Oh

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/smug-smug-mode-jeremy-clarkson-top-gear-clarkson-gif-2297505076468265763

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

i described it to you right after the message you originally replied to...

[hexed forge]

We didnt know what GUTS were until 2022 tho..

[acoustic osprey]

no

I'm talking about the original GUTS

before it was turned from a cave system into a hybrid of both to a most likely just primarily tunnels and buildings underground

[hexed forge]

Was the term GUTS even around 2021.

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

^

it was practically, to the public knowledge, this order of events

[hexed forge]

I see

[hexed forge]

So Im right about the lore design not being set in stone back then !!!

[acoustic osprey]

Dondi basically says under Spire, there will be a large underground cave system
Guts (the Spire also potentially changing into a large tree as well)

in 2022
VisualTech tells us about the monorail system being under the map (we assumed under Spiro)
Dondi also confirms GUTS, which would be a hybrid between caves and an underground tunnel (transport) system

Then ~2023/2024
We learn GUTS is not just tunnels but also contains its own buildings, etc

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
then you basically may as well decanonise 2022

[hexed forge]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-jeremy-clarkson-farm-sad-gif-9058546197843845638

yeah

wonder if we'll learn of any better way of sorting out what is canon from early evrima and what is not

or if it'll basically be a thing of

but the common sense thing, i suppose, is:

if it isn't an official video, document or IN-GAME ... then take it as a grain of salt

because, as we've just described, things can change

especially things 'on paper' (discussed things, things not fully made yet)

[hexed forge]

Mhm

Basically all the dev-quotes in Lorecord could change. I think there should be a disclaimer in the description of the channel atleast. Maybe.

[acoustic osprey]

good point

[hexed forge]

yahoo

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/chart-monkey-chart-monkey-business-monkey-business-gif-19575000

Any Lore topics?

I cant think of any.

[acoustic osprey]

No

[acoustic osprey]

NO

[spark egret]

its giant

[low scarab]

When did we hear the spire becoming a large tree

[acoustic osprey]

2021 on stream

[low scarab]

Interesting feels like the old legacy concept with the massive tree over the map

[acoustic osprey]

yes

i wouldn't be surprised if it was supposed to be a renewal of it

[low scarab]

Me neither I like the idea

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm
wouldn've been sick

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/erdtree-elden-ring-8fn2s73nas8n-gif-25156509

[acoustic osprey]

navigating Spiro via Spire was fun
but
giant tree...

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/carthus-sandworm-dark-souls-solaire-worm-gif-1433137170884699942

[low scarab]

I was kind of sad when they removed it

But tree is cooler

[acoustic osprey]

quite so
but yeah
tree would've be sick

[lethal moat]

I hope there’s some parallel to either Muldoon or Steve Irwin

[acoustic osprey]

not sure about Irwin
but Muldoon would be interesting

but a really passionate Irwin-esque dino researcher would be interesting though

[hexed forge]

Ran around NW ridge today as a Herrera. The supposed spot of the Airfield.

Which makes me wonder.

I assume AE would use the airfield for the transport of supplies. But how does that differentiate from just using ships? Would planes transport more important supplies/assets? What kinds of planes does AE use? So many potential questions.. THAT NEED ANSWERS !!

Also wouldn't it be cool if there's just like a drone quetz take-off area. Just like 10 robo-quetz's lined up and ready to take-off whenever needed.

Just some thoughts so I can revive this chat.

[valid geyser]

-# robo-quetz talk..

[lethal moat]

Spy plane

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/sr71-gif-20793480

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/planes-flying-gif-8911987

[hexed forge]

SR 71 cooler.

[lethal moat]

U-2 is the original

[hexed forge]

True, however, speed .

[acoustic osprey]

Lower shipping and handling costs per unit. Much higher payload capacity per trip.

also safety for cargo as well
and depends on the trip itself

we know there are helis that pick up Rexes
but we would presume that would be for short range things

[hexed forge]

Now I wonder what kind of planes AE uses. Large cargo planes would be ideal

[frank spire]

Planes are a lot faster than ships, so you should be able to get stuff in quicker. It’s also a little more direct

[acoustic osprey]

(talking about ships)

[acoustic osprey]

I presume it depends on the situation

i doubt we'd get big cargo planes
seeing as the docks would hold large ships, so you don't need to worry about large cargo

or at least doubt that they would use more cargo planes than ships

[lethal moat]

I do think ships would be the better option, might be easier to smuggle on a massive ship than a plane, if AE is keeping it super low profile

[acoustic osprey]

looking at the size of Apollo
I don't believe they'd smuggle anything like that

i presume they would have their own contracted ships or bought ships

[hexed forge]

Yeah I think that AE would rather use ships than Planes. I assume they would use planes if they need something to get from x facility to y facility as fast as possible.

[normal olive]

could the replicator have access to this cameras?

[acoustic osprey]

well

[normal olive]

also, can't wait to be able to open this with a mutation

[lethal moat]

Depends on what the replicator's purpose is and how many tools it's given to pursue that

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1280229440294748180/Gen1_cave_art.png?ex=67339b14&is=67324994&hm=33ccf10f33ea33005c6a5d645c5a50dfeab66876c046d70bf3a0cd499eebc7aa&
in legacy
she could see you

[normal olive]

i see

[acoustic osprey]

it honestly, akin to what Rumple said, depends to what The Replicator is now in Evrima

[normal olive]

well, i can see the replicator being able to hack them at least

[lethal moat]

Why?

[normal olive]

there were parts of the railing that were bent

my brain immediately went "a gen 1 did that"

i'm not gonna go up again cause it gives me vertigo but, it was bent down, like when you try to leave a pool and you push yourself up

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah, definitely either could be
or just a dino

however, that rail is modular so it could be repetitively placed
so it probably doesn't have huge worldbuilding meaning... but maybe not

had to have been a design choice to the actual model itself
which yeah

what could've done that, on paper

unless Gen2s have super strength haha

[normal olive]

i don't think it was unintentional, it wasn't symmetrical either

[lethal moat]

I rather doubt gen 1 are on gateway, but my source for that is an old quote

[acoustic osprey]

which quote

[normal olive]

if we will be able to play with gens 1 on gateway, why wouldn't they be?

[acoustic osprey]

is that the one from the stream earlier this year, roughly

[lethal moat]

The same one I reference every time about how not any one island has everything

[lethal moat]

More islands!

[acoustic osprey]

i still believe the quote means

Dinos + normal humans (employees) on island

then

Dinos + normal humans + Gen1s

then 'insert incident(s)' and AE leaves major presence

Dinos + Gen1s

then AE sends Gen2s to the island(s)

Dinos + Gen1s + Gen2s

[lethal moat]

I think it's more different maps and different times have different assets

[acoustic osprey]

i don't know
I don't know why they'd have to make it so they have to make a new map for Gen1s seperately

because if they added Gen1s and Gen2s right now
Don's rule/quote doesn't break anyways

personally how i see it

[buoyant pollen]

Does anyone have a picture of the Magna Rex completely sideways?
(image below as an example)

[lethal moat]

Keep things decentralized to prevent any amount of information getting leaked at once

[lethal moat]

Magna is canceled, but I'll look

[acoustic osprey]

i don't really see not having Gen1s and Dinos stopping information getting out

that would be more so how the system runs

[acoustic osprey]

technically PCE Rex is the same model as Magna

[buoyant pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/darthvader-nooooo-funny-starwars-no-gif-4920019

[acoustic osprey]

might be a good side view photo out there though

[lethal moat]

Less people that know things the less people can share those things

[acoustic osprey]

this is assuming you have easy access to tell

and you have full access to everything

[acoustic osprey]

there is this but it is low quality lol

[lethal moat]

It's just more efficient censorship from your own employees

[normal olive]

i can totally see the game taking place at the time of Dinos+Gen1s+Gen2s

like, the time where we play

[acoustic osprey]

but this is a case of practicality and having inbuilt systems/contracted security

if they spread everything far
it can easily become exhausting both on money and researcher time

and we know they already have powerful threats, AE

[lethal moat]

If you have the money, it's safer, and they also prevent any one containment breach from contaminating everything

[acoustic osprey]

i doubt AE wants to be overly exhausting on money-based resources by spreading things thin
As scientists, it would be annoying - especially resituating funding on more islands, rather than the research itself

i wouldn't really call it innately safer
that just depends on how AE actually have their security systems set

[buoyant pollen]

Could you explain in a single text why it was canceled?

[lethal moat]

Copyright

[acoustic osprey]

not really

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/guess-well-find-out-jacob-dutton-harrison-ford-1923-we-will-know-that-gif-13924432661313918615

[acoustic osprey]

it is likely, like Thenyaw, that the reason Dondi no longer has Magnas, PC lore or Thenyaw
because of respect out of Dinosauriac, likely

but it might be a mixed back

we know thenyaw isn't coming back because it is Dinosauriacs (but under Isle)
it could be that Dinosauriac didn't want Don using their old PC lore while he decided to work on PCE

[lethal moat]

I do also think that magnas were a bit too obvious of "hypers, but better" personally

[acoustic osprey]

nah, that was the whole point of them

[lethal moat]

Right, I dislike the concept

[acoustic osprey]

i am glad they're gone though
it is cool on paper

but bad in design in multiplayer

[fast forge]

if it helps you in the future, scientists call this the "lateral view"

[acoustic osprey]

but cool people call it a side profile!!!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-handshake-walter-white-jesse-pinkman-gif-22101046

[fast forge]

🤓

[fast forge]

Soon™️

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

honestly get that feeling TOO MUCH when i look at things
especially lore-related

imagining GUTS
imagining playing as a human properly
imagining properly working strains, etc

pain

[lethal moat]

It's a lot (Now imagine about how the people who have to make it a reality actually feel about it, it's probably a lot more behind the scenes than we could think of)

[acoustic osprey]

i can only truly imagine the creation of art by experience
I CANNOT imagine the pain that is programming, especially in a small team

if i ever became a programmer, it would never be for a video game
too much pain

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

honestly i want an old boat docked there
just some cool storytelling

iirc the last don stream
someone said 'where cargo ship' (because of the shipping left on the beaches)

and Don said (again, IIRC i need to find the clip again) that there isn't a model yet

[fast forge]

or sunken in port

[acoustic osprey]

any of the above is what i mean by that comment
whole ship? some of a ship? sunken? still a float?

WHO CARES GIB SHIP!!!!

need me pirate ships 🏴‍☠️

although... technically...

[fast forge]

a floating hulk would be cool too

[acoustic osprey]

most pirates didn't have ships
they usually had boats, and out of those boats. They were typically sailboats (i.e. the standard pirate sloop or brig)

even modern pirates don't have ships. Most just have little boats with a single engine in it

[acoustic osprey]

hulk or hull?

[lethal moat]

Aquatic research vessel at docks with a sunk or beached ship out somewhere

[knotty locust]

to correct this, pirates actually operate out of one single "mother ship"

basically an aircraft carrier, but far cheaper and only with dinghies

in the modern day, that is

though it would be quite

interesting

to have a completely external third party, with no relation-at-all with the current events of the isle, to visit the island

[acoustic osprey]

i'm more so referring to a specific set of modern pirates for their usual pirating

[knotty locust]

👍

[acoustic osprey]

i don't know how they do their own MOB

i know FAR MORE on cooler pirates
because, uh, they're cooler and had funny voices (technically that being the typical english accent from when Shakespeare was alive...)

[hexed forge]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[hexed forge]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

but yet, boats are fun

i can imagine them being not fun to make for multiplayer lol

[ivory dune]

guys my dilopho stuck and the instruction is invalid

what should I do to go free

[median shuttle]

Funnily enough the cargo containers and a crashed ship would work great for a small 'found file' audio log thing I'm currently working on

[acoustic osprey]

nice

[lethal moat]

A partially submerged cargo ship sounds like a great place for nesting Austros

[hexed forge]

That one baby Austro that didnt get the Salt-Water mutation passed onto it is screwed.

[acoustic osprey]

only the strong shall prevail

[hexed forge]

Natural selection said no

[hexed forge]

If we can find a clean version of the Errant-291 report... that would be legendary.
But I doubt so. Atleast not in the near future, with the glance sheets.

[acoustic osprey]

ha... yeah

honestly seeing as Don doesn't want to bring back ERRANT-291
I think being able to find 'completed' but torn bits of ERRANT-291 (and others) would BE SICK

imagine we get 5 different 'incident summaries' that look like the ERRANT-291 sheet
but they're all ripped apart and those little bits are all over the island

so then you gotta find them all
then try to match them correctly

believe i doubt the words on ERRANT-291 are meaningless
seeing as what we could decipher, actually made sense

like 7 minutes

[hexed forge]

Hopefully the little bits are placed in places that make sense.. sort of.

Would be weird to find a piece somewhere deep inside perimeter and then the other piece randomly on a beach across the island.

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
i wouldn't mind that much

I just, if Don does do something like that, for them to actually exist somehow

idk. Is it a bit too simple?

i imagine this being one of many different ways of obtaining lore

this being more heavy handed and rough
you're basically gluing them together

presumably with meaning maybe

maybe the pieces we pick up give us a clue for the next piece to find?

i can imagine that being very hard for Don to do though

at least, very slow to write

[hexed forge]

Thats what I hope for in the future

[lethal moat]

Imagine we miss a piece and take forever to realize and go back

[hexed forge]

Really interested to see if Don is planning another "lore-hunt" with the next lore video, whenever that releases.

[acoustic osprey]

feels almost akin to what we've done from time to time with other things
but this being more physical lol

[acoustic osprey]

i do believe can make finding things like that REALLY hard
look at how cryptic olympus transmission was

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-tmnt-series-tmnt-ninja-turtles-gif-7396940

[lethal moat]

Lore hunt hype

[hexed forge]

I accept the challenge and the insanity that comes with it.

[acoustic osprey]

honestly. Yes.

[hexed forge]

But even if he isnt planning one, thats fine, just gotta wait more...more....soonTM..

[hexed forge]

Look at you and Errant,

Amazing example!!

Sound like a madman when talking about it

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/720007490145747026/1045462765910884442/pies.gif

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[acoustic osprey]

ERRANT + GW_F5 + Lightclaw podcast episode

[hexed forge]

(Its just 3 hours of Isaac talking to himself)

[acoustic osprey]

literally we get 291, F5 and Lightclaw all in a room to talk to each other

[hexed forge]

So true

[acoustic osprey]

THEY'RE REAL I SWEAR
THEY TALK TO ME
I CAN HEAR THEM

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

And then you make up a different voice for each one.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-cat-ai-cat-beer-mage-cat-gif-12868949205036685497

[hexed forge]

Oh just wait until CCH enters and starts reminding you about the PC times.

[acoustic osprey]

yay...

[hexed forge]

Repost this in here as I posted it in Lorecord too.

Weird noise me and some friends heard today. I boosted the volume so its easier to be heard.

(Putting up the discord clip volume may make it easier to hear)

[lethal moat]

I haven't heard that one

[hexed forge]

Mhm, it sounds new.

[valid geyser]

interesting

[hexed forge]

Very interesting sound

[acoustic osprey]

at 0:01?

[hexed forge]

Starts at 0:01 all the way to 0:03

It certainly doesn't like a bird- well, unless you want to count dinosaurs !!

Since there's a lot of weird ambience that's just birds. But this one doesn't sound like it.

[acoustic osprey]

it reminds me of an old animated 80s/90s tv show Dinosaur sound

[hexed forge]

hmmm

[fast forge]

calls have been all messed up recently, I bet it's just a distorted dibble call or something

[knotty locust]

yeah thats a diablo

[acoustic osprey]

so it begins

i've basically copying off Hacker (dw, i asked for permission)

[acoustic osprey]

general rough idea for what i have is now in place
also in 720p for upload reasons
missing some things like login

but i want to add some things
Just to make the UI make more sense

unsure if i want this to be for AUGUSTUS or ERRANT-291
but i think i'm staying with 291

Just to make the UI make more sense
with this bit though

https://youtu.be/Bc1QNXK_XOM
mostly with this

instead of the computer only having 1 file (AUGUSTUS)
which doesn't really sit right for me

i'm going to have it so the user plugs in an external hard drive of sorts
or manually types down what he wants via [REDACTED]

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/92af7c5a00b81edf180f4f29b3397318
food for thought

000000007C is this users' amount of replications/lives

i know it doesn't amount to 1000 (the digit max of zeros)

but it find it really interesting
there is really no reason in having it?

actually
no

i think "C" in the number chain might actually mean "Computer"

and 7 being computer 7 ?

https://gyazo.com/d5dba0e2b376300de1738c275139c483

thing is though
AUGUSTUS' OLYMPUS USER has 0C

which makes me feel like it would be lives 'replicated' (for lack of a better term)

it makes sense for an OLYMPUS user to not be casually replicated
in contrast to a computer admin who clearly doesn't have high access

in contrast to the OLYMPUS user who has Stage 5 (or 4? pretty sure) clearance

[acoustic osprey]

but is so
would be like a odometer

in this case
lives you done lol

it may just be random numbers though

but the similarity with 7C and 0C
is striking

[hexed forge]

Looks really good.

[hexed forge]

Amazing

[hexed forge]

Interesting, in that case I wonder if there's a way to get more than a thousand lives. Maybe signing the contract again, but your data is still in the system so it keeps just counting from the 1st thousand.

Veteran isle player, 10k lives.

[knotty locust]

i imagine its as simple as going up the hierarchy

the higher up you go, the more valuable you are to the company

depending, of course, on the company's values

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1269614370237972631/1306229357177737276/255E3C0E00001.mp4?ex=6735e863&is=673496e3&hm=8cd7677c02a221c8ad9ef294413ad8bd5a7ca340e396cf93a0a05ae7c3fa40de&

I don't think it's a Diablo.

[alpine lynx]

reminds me of the rex growls

[hexed forge]

Nothing resembles a rex growl in that to me

[alpine lynx]

wait

it actually also resamble allo?

the vocal cords are similar

nvm mostly not

[acoustic osprey]

thank you

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
in the case of what we've seen with OLYMPUS

no

would you, a higher up, want to be recycled over and over again?

Frankenstein didn't turn himself into a monster, of course

i see, far less, higher ups doing those sort of things

[fast forge]

Your original video still sounds like an out of breath dibble to me

With no HT to entice a dev to pull out an unreleased animal, I'm betting any weird calls are just the out of breath bug that we've been experiencing

[fast forge]

Yeah I see people up the chain just having the Gen 2 physique and functional immortality stuff (or a Gen 1 body if u a freak)

[hexed forge]

You can barely hear an out of breath Dibble tho

[fast forge]

ya but they still travel weirdly

[thin vine]

no one saw that

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/moon-knight-mr-knight-khonshu-steven-grant-spin-gif-25385259

[pseudo fable]

Most likely.

[lethal moat]

I was tricked into thinking a juvie cera was a rex

(I just lack critical thinking)

[fast forge]

those out of breath calls can sound very weird from far away

also hello don and rumple, hope y'all are doing well

[patent ginkgo]

No you just lack an unhealthy amount of time ingame

[fast forge]

disregard rumple's opinions till he hits 5k hours in game

[patent ginkgo]

So true

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/si-va-in-scena-showtime-gif-25817813

[patent ginkgo]

I’ve got over twice as much as you I think

And we started at about the same time too

[fast forge]

I have almost 4 times that

[patent ginkgo]

[fast forge]

probably half of that is watching youtube while playing ptera I bet

[patent ginkgo]

lol

[hexed forge]

Dreams are ruined

(I thought it was some cool ambience of a weird creature)

[patent ginkgo]

Ever hopeful

[hexed forge]

Im aiming for 3 thousand hours before the end of the year.

Actually no I dont think 3k is possible.

Atleast 2.5k

[low scarab]

Bro 💀

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

Pretty average number for Isle players.

[fast forge]

oh when did I pass you

[hexed forge]

Probably a month ago

Whenever you hit 2k

Idk when that is.

[snow jasper]

yall are crazy

https://tenor.com/view/busy-working-work-schedule-grinch-gif-13160033

i‘ve gotten only 1k in the span of 5 years

[low scarab]

Since evrima dropped I’ve gotten 700

Very lore related numbers

[acoustic osprey]

2172...

it actually means the amount of hours the server was left on

[hexed forge]

What was I looking at

[hexed forge]

Actually? Or are you joking around lol?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-folds-the-sopranos-road-to-respect-rockin-the-suburbs-i-take-the-checks-and-face-the-facts-some-producer-with-computers-gif-2324152662366616759

it is my isle theory on isle lore theories channel...

[acoustic osprey]

it was too long
one moment

[hexed forge]

ah

[acoustic osprey]

only augustus sound effects basically
not up to that point yet

[hexed forge]

F5...

[acoustic osprey]

F5!!!

[hexed forge]

This is for your Errant analysis right?

[acoustic osprey]

si senor

[hexed forge]

Cant wait to see the insanity in that one

[acoustic osprey]

WOOHOOO

[hexed forge]

Remember to actually discuss the report this time

[acoustic osprey]

i know... i know...

i'll try to this time

[hexed forge]

I need to get in the spirit of trying to make "lore" videos again.

Soon..TM... maybe weeks.. months... yesterday... a week ago...

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[pseudo fable]

If Apollo Red ended up having some logo are you going to end up adapting the system to it?

[hexed forge]

👀

[acoustic osprey]

if they do
probably

I wouldn't mind honestly
Maybe not for that video - unless you guys create their logo in the next month lol

but most likely
heck, even make something actually unique rather than copying AUGUSTUS

[hexed forge]

Would be funny if the "official" logo is already created.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-folds-the-sopranos-road-to-respect-rockin-the-suburbs-i-take-the-checks-and-face-the-facts-some-producer-with-computers-gif-2324152662366616759

[hexed forge]

You could perhaps make it more "modern".

Make it look like a software from like the 2000s to 2010s.

[acoustic osprey]

watch Apollo Red end up being very very different to how i imagined it
not likt there is much merit to it lol

[hexed forge]

I believe Apollo Red is the subsidiary that gets their hands dirty.

(Illegal activities, Spying, etc)

But watch it just turn out to be AE's merchandise producer !! yayyy

[lethal moat]

I don't think that they'd devote an entire subsidary just for that

[hexed forge]

I think they would imo.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
if anything

I feel like putting that as a subsidary feels too formal

if anything, something like that would be under an unofficial group/militia

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/station19-dean-miller-shrugs-idk-i-dont-know-gif-531169214704877736

[hexed forge]

Guess we'll find out in sometime.. maybe months, maybe years.

[fast forge]

Google AI has this to say

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
i presume most of these companies are either completely new bodies made by Apollo for X reason
or a merger that has been renamed by Apollo's standards

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[fast forge]

^^^

[acoustic osprey]

losses, not big legal issues though

[fast forge]

I've heard of companies essentially offloading their losses onto a subsidiary so that the subsidiary can get tanked and bankrupt, but the main branch is fine

[acoustic osprey]

if you have a whole dedicated company doing Illegal activities & Spying, etc
that may be easily traced to the chain of command, the mother company

[hexed forge]

True I guess.

[acoustic osprey]

makes sense for why they wouldn't want to make AE the main body

[fast forge]

still, it could be something else entirely too...

[hexed forge]

When have we first heard about Apollo Red?

Legacy? In what context

[acoustic osprey]

how cerato

[hexed forge]

thanks

[acoustic osprey]

it was only like late last year

[hexed forge]

Oh jesus what

https://tenor.com/view/sweats-gif-25346666

[acoustic osprey]

practically the same thing honestly

[hexed forge]

Way earlier than I expected.

[acoustic osprey]

makes me wonder though if AE would have its own subsidiaries

only really needed though, i suppose, IF whatever AE are doing is marketable in any degree

you don't need to cover your assets if your assets aren't even produced for any market

so the risk of not having a subsidiary doesn't really exist

[hexed forge]

To me, Apollo Red, and the companies entire theme, feels like its.. weird and not meant for the public. Thats why at first I thought of it as very malicious and secretive.

[acoustic osprey]

why wouldn't they be for the public

especially Apollo Pharmaceuticals North

if you're not going to be used by any real market
why subdivide your company

[lethal moat]

I can see Apollo Red being a managment/logistics subsidary

[acoustic osprey]

you don't need to be a secret again if you're already a secret

[fast forge]

Isn't AE itself a subsidiary of Apollo? Or a branch? I dunno this corporate hierarchies

[acoustic osprey]

from what we theorise is that AE is, itself, a subsidiary of Apollo

[hexed forge]

The "theme" of the company.

The main colors are presumed to be red. It just feels.. I really dont want to say it. But.

Its like the colors of an "evil" company or something like that.

[fast forge]

or a risque version

bow chicka wow wow

[acoustic osprey]

for me, that matches the security vibe
basically logistics, surveillance, all your handy dandy protocol-involved security tech company for the market
and the internal Apollo organisation for all risk and incident compiling

[hexed forge]

Oh true, didnt think of that.

[lethal moat]

Red can also mean health, colors are abstract and we can assign whatever symbolism we choose

[hexed forge]

Now that I think of it, that seems way more likely than what I said.

[acoustic osprey]

i feel like that would go to Apollo Pharmaceuticals North
ignoring the red bit, just upon "health"

[hexed forge]

The reason I didnt want to say health is because we have Apollo Pharmaceuticals North

[acoustic osprey]

Mercury Beneficial definitely could be in relation to actual shipping

so always be on lookout for any caduceus'

makes sense for Mercury (Hermes)

[lethal moat]

Right, but I'm saying we can't use "Apollo Red" to figure out what it does, it's too vague in my opinion

[fast forge]

What if it's the human engineering division?

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah definitely

[acoustic osprey]

but wouldn't that just AE though?

at least, our only engineering indicative aspect is AE

[hexed forge]

They could rename the cranes at Docks to Mercury Beneficial if thats the case.

From AEQUOR

[fast forge]

even more closely tied to medical research, hence the red

[acoustic osprey]

but i don't believe AE would subdivide their human engineering from their dino engineering

makes me wonder though if AE would have its own subsidiaries
only really needed though, i suppose, IF whatever AE are doing is marketable in any degree
you don't need to cover your assets if your assets aren't even produced for any market
so the risk of not having a subsidiary doesn't really exist

if anything

for me
AE would be the 'engineering' team behind all the other subsidiaries

[lethal moat]

INTERIOR DESIGN ladies and gentlemen we got em

[acoustic osprey]

Apollo Red
perfume company

"oh i got some Apollo Red's latest Venus' breath"

[hexed forge]

Did you guys hear about the new.. erm.. "Monolophosaurus.. eh... breath?"

[acoustic osprey]

quite literally using animal products

[fast forge]

Human medical research is much more heavily regulated

[hexed forge]

Could it go under Apollo Pharmaceuticals North

[acoustic osprey]

i imagine AE isn't just one body though
i see itself having many divisions doing x, y and z

research + rnd vs actually reproducing product would be very different things though

[fast forge]

pharmaceuticals dips a toe into genetic engineering, but I don't see pharma group making Gen 2

[hexed forge]

Oh in that case, then I think AE made gen2.

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[hexed forge]

Its been confirmed?

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
i think it is assumed

[hexed forge]

Thought so..

[acoustic osprey]

i don't see why it wouldn't be AE

we're playing AE's game
see no other reason for such

the other subsidiaries being far less important, of course

[lethal moat]

Apollo Red could be construction

[hexed forge]

I was about to say "But thats the Apollo Construction subsidiary !!" But then I realized I was thinking of PCE lore.

[fast forge]

Apollo Red is their video game division

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-tuxedo-cat-stantwt-stan-twitter-cat-treat-gif-10472450240820587393

[lethal moat]

Hungry for any lore

[acoustic osprey]

soon

[hexed forge]

Same..same..

[ionic sable]

Ah yes, Apollo RED, infamous for releasing the hit dinosaur game Path of Bermuda. Receiving worldwide acclaim and single handedly funding Apollo Engineering... how could we have missed this lore. 😔

[knotty locust]

enough about apollo RED, what about apollo BLU and the 9 mercenaries

[ionic sable]

Wait you're so right.

[acoustic osprey]

Woah!!

[hexed forge]

Lol

[lethal moat]

What?

[icy onyx]

wrong chat srry

but yeah

[lethal moat]

[icy onyx]

check

[normal olive]

guys, what are your thoughts on the idea of how to unlock strains going public?
like, are you against the idea of people sharing how to unlock them by making guides and youtube videos or you don't mind at all?

[hexed forge]

Whenever they come,

I dont mind people making guides on how to get them. Its inevitable and the truth that must be accepted.

[normal olive]

i see

[patent ginkgo]

Having some sort of general super creepy and cryptic trailer that introduces the general line of thought for strain attainment would be nice

[normal olive]

i mean, it's true, someone will eventually make a video about it, and the knowledge will go public... but that ain't gonna be me

[normal olive]

i prefer it to be completely secret, i want to earn it trough hard work

the all way, like if it was a an ester egg

[patent ginkgo]

Hmm, maybe

Would certainly be better for strain population lol

[normal olive]

because if it was somewhat popular knowledge everyone will try to have a strain instead of a rex, it would be like the apex crisis of legacy but with the strains, so, no thanks

[patent ginkgo]

Oh I don’t think it should be well known, but some super creepy small trailer that just kinda hints toward, like, strains through super good upkeep of an animal, or some other thing, would be nice

[normal olive]

hmmm

[patent ginkgo]

Not enough to do anything but softly imply “do good and there may be a reward…”

[normal olive]

i prefer in game clues, but, the devs will decide that, they have my trust on the matter

[patent ginkgo]

Mhm

Now all we need is info on strains in lore!

[normal olive]

i'd say we have enough lore about them for the time being, but i guess that's an unpopular opinion 😅

[patent ginkgo]

I just want more of all lore

[normal olive]

respectable

[patent ginkgo]

But strains relate to botany lore, and botany lore I want most of all

[normal olive]

like this kind of stuff?

[patent ginkgo]

Yesss

I had that image but low quality, thanks for the upgrade

[normal olive]

glad to help

[low scarab]

i want this towering over the map

[snow jasper]

i dont

[hexed forge]

Would be a pretty cool idea for spiro.

Since the entirity of spiro is massiveee.

So the tree would be big, however only cover like 20% of it. Maybe.

[snow jasper]

20% of spiro????

thats a bit of an overestimate

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm, 10% then.

[low scarab]

[snow jasper]

no more that 7.5%

[snow jasper]

heh

[pseudo fable]

You could field hundreds of them on Spiro. What?

[hexed forge]

Hmm, I guess I overestimated their size then.

[pseudo fable]

Maybe just the size of Spiro.

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-jake-become-navi-ceremoney-gif-24937580

Praise the mighty tree

Quite literally Herrera heaven.

(Just that they may or may not survive any sort of fall from trees like that )

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/erdtree-elden-ring-8fn2s73nas8n-gif-25156509

[hexed forge]

Exactly

[patent ginkgo]

That tree is a canopy

Not part of one, it is one

[acoustic osprey]

Spire tree

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-cat-ai-cat-beer-mage-cat-gif-12868949205036685497

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
that idea discussed years ago WOULD'VE been sick on Spiro

[hexed forge]

Tree idea?

[acoustic osprey]

i thought i didn't tell you but i mentioned it

but there was an old stream where the idea of Spire being a massive tree was discussed

[hexed forge]

Ah that

[acoustic osprey]

si senor

[hexed forge]

Would be cool to see if they will go through with that idea if they are reworking spiro.

We have been getting some botany lore recently, soo, a guy could hope.

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

the people yearn for botany lore

[hexed forge]

Soon.

[fast forge]

Phaedra

[fast forge]

Cool name

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[fallow hazel]

Guys how I’m supposed to solve the problem of the anti cheat thing?

It shows this

I’m new

[acoustic osprey]

wrong channel but ask in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧
and ping @.TechSupport

[fallow hazel]

Ok thanks

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/6b4f62d8c636ded4a2183d405eaa7ea3
heh, there is a glitch in AUGUSTUS

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-frey-hahaha-laughing-evil-gif-4893368

also realised the third image is actually named "harbour master"
can see some similarities

with the one in game right now

[sage wasp]

Isle Lore theory: Dodgson bought JP, but had to rename it for copyright reasons, and is now trying to build it as an unnature reserve.

[lethal moat]

The isle is unrelated to Jurassic Park

[sage wasp]

Fair enough. Was mostly a joke.

[sage wasp]

Though I understand the need to confirm

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-dennis-nedry-wayne-knight-lewis-dodgson-cameron-thor-gif-4873091

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/nedry-gif-22030999

[acoustic osprey]

pov AE making these little things called 'profiles' (short for embryo intelligence profiles) and they're showing it to AE's CEO

[lethal moat]

Wonder if AE has a "black budget" like the US military does

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, I do wonder if they get bank rolled (or black budget, if it's by a government) to any sort of degree

i guess the existence of several subsidiaries likely means they probably aren't bankrolled at least

[lethal moat]

I mean more along the lines of Apollo having a black budget, where they shovel money in and don't ask don't tell

[acoustic osprey]

I presume then in that context AE itself would be such honestly

[hexed forge]

I thought you realized this before

[acoustic osprey]

Yes but not recently

Especially in the context of recent archive 7 convos

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

So is it going to be dismissed as just a minor normal glitch in the report or is it something more.

[acoustic osprey]

Eh I don't know

[acoustic osprey]

it was most likely before they had the idea of ARCHIVE(7)

to be fair though
it likely isn't related to archive 7

as archive 7 is an archive
whereas this (AUGUSTUS) is just a file stored in the local disk for X computer at H4

[spark prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/update-is-today-gif-14731534949278669964

[strange shell]

Wrong channel but yes

[spark prairie]

LOL

[ruby tartan]

I found this in port where the dates says its 2022, idk if its gonna be helpful or if you know already

[lethal moat]

Could be, or it might be a placeholder

[patent ginkgo]

I believe that was a market asset

[hexed forge]

Its a marketplace asset that has been in the game since the QoL Map change, the NE one.

[icy onyx]

There must be a lore reason for this...🤔

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-im-going-crazy-stewie-griffin-peter-stewiegriffincrazy-gif-12237835

[hexed forge]

no

[acoustic osprey]

those would actually be the day
following the american calender system

mm/dd (month / day)

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/the-batman-the-penguin-commissioner-gordon-open-your-eyes-jim-gordon-gif-25432533

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/одиндома-kevin-mc-callister-home-alone-shocked-cover-eyes-gif-15750893

[fast forge]

oh

I found a new invisible wall near port

and invisible platforms?

(hard to see, but my deino is floating in air)

[hexed forge]

Yay its back-

Just in different places

[hexed forge]

Lol

[fast forge]

oh it's not just a cube, I hit another wall before dying

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[regal horizon]

Extinct alien buildings that are invisible to the dino/human eye 😱

[acoustic osprey]

no because they're extinct

[regal horizon]

i realize my stupidity

[acoustic osprey]

it is ok

[strange shell]

Outer Wilds lore

[regal horizon]

Sadly no idea about outer wilds

[strange shell]

Well in that game, there's quite literally a structure from an extinct alien species that is invisible to the naked eye

[regal horizon]

Neat, prolly never gonna touch it but cool

[fast forge]

this is a fun antenna array

[lethal moat]

Ancient technology

[kindred bobcat]

Looks like something a prepper would have to get every radio signal on the continent

[low scarab]

Parasite strain plants when

[ornate comet]

Austro lore when

[icy onyx]

Human lore pls

[acoustic osprey]

Neuro goo!!

[low scarab]

indeed

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/knight-soldier-fight-me-waiting-staring-gif-15556228

while in the drought
we shall have to wait

hopefully Don has been able to do some lore stuff rather than just the developmental side of things

[hexed forge]

Spiro !!

And hopefully the glance sheets are readable and not just 4 pixels

Maybe the wait will be worth it..

[acoustic osprey]

i am NOT going to be surprised if they are pixelated

[hexed forge]

same

[acoustic osprey]

It feels like an oversight that will eventually happen

something where, potentially, it is readable in the engine
just not actually in-game

[hexed forge]

Hear me out,

Once we find all of them that are in the game, Don posts a 4k version of the images in phase three.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-gregory-house-sad-crying-compassion-gif-14821639

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
we had similar interactions when Khorne (or whomever, memory is fuzzy because it was a blur now) logged INTO the game (inlore)

and then Olympus Transmitter happened

and user inquiries

[hexed forge]

It was Khorne yes

[acoustic osprey]

not too sure anymore

[hexed forge]

I remember from MeatyLocks(Is that his name?) videos and one of the lore documents.

[acoustic osprey]

can't remember if he was just user inquiry
or both with Olympus Transmitter

[acoustic osprey]

MeatyLock

but that is with User Inquiry

[hexed forge]

I just remember something along the lines of "Khorne logged in"

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1303499511728963604/Screen_Shot_2024-11-06_at_10.21.17_am.png?ex=673a7a85&is=67392905&hm=3a452b874986dffb62cfbed59f22716b877069bf365175c41a454d6f8aea22a7&

time to bring out my old archives

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/soul-terry-searching-gif-20679312

[acoustic osprey]

nothing

painfully hard to see what the older regulars back in 2018 had to say lol

i found khornes old eip (steam user) number

got curious
therefore put in 000000000C into steamid finder

https://steamid.io/lookup/76561199122117182

https://steamcommunity.com/id/000000000c/
got me this

which feels like a dud

just a csgo gamer

[hexed forge]

Damn

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
tried thinking outside the box

i was inspired by all the wacky Olympus Transmitter posting in the discord

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/464249883268874251/ogPmry0j357tP7ZI0YATvBg8yK232fF1nJpUvnlivKTKLg2gpYOKD_MkbB8IeLX06w7j6Tp5X8Zr1lITv6l9yxf5mjefVL__4NDY.png?ex=6739f7a5&is=6738a625&hm=1feb62add7457ffb807498bdfed6c7ee33be86b0bcb0777868b2fcfce7c6c078&

i probably could ask Herp though
I know Herp sometimes sees messages with his name on it

You probably remember
being your prime era in lore theories

[hexed forge]

2017...

Wish I could see what went on in there lorewise.

[acoustic osprey]

That discord server is long gone now

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/iletter-gif-4359880

[acoustic osprey]

man it is saddening seeing how active lore theories got in 2018

then, all of a sudden, dead for years

[hexed forge]

This is the most accurate statement ever said here.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

it was a great way to start the channel

[hexed forge]

years?

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
2019-beginning to mid 2021

very dead

of course, a message or two every few days

[hexed forge]

That is.... wow..

[acoustic osprey]

but i would still fit that in the dead category
when, even when here is dead, we still message quite a few times per day

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
I started my proper loring here in this channel in mid-late 2020, iirc (or beginning of 2020, depends on how you look at it)

of course, the occasional message ages before that
but
I started realising i liked the premise of the games lore when was i started being active here

2 years late...

those little regrets 😔

[hexed forge]

I started being active in here late last year. November or so. The AUGUSTUS video caught my attention.

I knew the game had lore, just didnt really dig into it. My basic understanding was "AE created dinosaurs and weird creatures, something went wrong, we play as those creatures" yahoo.

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-gif-27114594

[lethal moat]

I didn't really appear until 2022

[hexed forge]

Back when you were Pink !

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
you guys started really picking up in here (this specific channel) in 2023
for the most part, i think a lot of the lorecord community has as well

which is great

real great seeing new faces

almost no old faces have really stayed from the 2018 era, which is crazy

always curious if MeatyLock will do another video
he clearly resubmitted to become a CC again when they were wiping inactive CCs

[hexed forge]

Life took over

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/do-me-drax-guardians-gif-12971130

[hexed forge]

And who knows, it may take over with the "new guys" including me here.

[hexed forge]

Didnt he not stream in years? Thought he just disappeared from the internet

[acoustic osprey]

some of the guys who started in late 2022/2023 have gone as well

some aren't just cut out for ... the wait

[acoustic osprey]

he streamed a few years back
but he is still active on Discord

why don't we just ping him here and see what has has got to say

[hexed forge]

"Who the hell just pinged me and why"

[acoustic osprey]

he probably has this place on mute

[hexed forge]

Get him back into making lore videos !!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/now-old-man-the-future-is-now-old-man-gif-9677657

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, no offence to him of course, but his lore videos felt like Anthom videos
just a bit more lore

[hexed forge]

True actually

[acoustic osprey]

if he does go for it again, no more 'isle lore news channel' stuff

it is real uninspiring to be fair
i think it is good having publicly spread isle lore information

but, seeing as he did theory craft a lot here, he could've definitely done some proper lore videos on YT

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/doctor-who-i-dont-want-to-go-david-tennant-sad-gif-19724376

ironic though, that is Doctor Who in this context

especially with regeneration
more go and more come to take their place

the people who once seemed most knowledgeable, only now a fragment the minds of those who took their place anew

<insert Ozymandias isle lore video>

no one thing lasts forever
all things must come and go

[acoustic osprey]

^

[lethal moat]

I do find it interesting that it now represents the community better than both accuracy in game, and what I believe to be true about lore

[acoustic osprey]

every thing has its place, i do believe, whether quite literally - looking at Chaos Theory or just standard fractal observation with the world - or just faith-based

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
for a lot of you guys, you are the narrator in this context

if anything, i would be closest to the traveller
and the two vast trunkless legs (Ozymandias) would be the final remnants of Legacy Lore

[lethal moat]

Dondi can be the desert or something idk

[acoustic osprey]

lol

Dondi would be an eternal god or something eternal in this scenario

like the sand, yeah

sand makes sense
The Isle is his game
it's his toy, his art, his piece

his sandbox
and he is the sand

[lethal moat]

Yis

Metaphor conversation in lore channel

[acoustic osprey]

We do merely just view it, quite distantly
yet, like the vivid descriptions within the poem, we can practically believe ourselves there

[meager junco]

Like sithis from the elder scrolls

[acoustic osprey]

if i knew them better, i would agree lol

[acoustic osprey]

I think this is why it makes me sad (almost to the point of being mad?) when looking at old lore theory messages

[meager junco]

Here I’ll give you a description

-No. Sithis is Neither Daedra nor Aedra. It's not even a spirit but a force of nature. It's chaos and the ineffable void that all things sprung from and all things will return to eventually

[fast forge]

you'd probably like elder scrolls lore

[meager junco]

Aedra and deadra are gods and demons basically

[acoustic osprey]

there is clearly a different direction taken for Evrima lore in contrast to Legacy lore
to some extent, Legacy lore looks more engaging because the whole aspect of legacy lore was putting the player into the game through lore

[acoustic osprey]

but when elder scrolls 6!!

saw a meme
went something like

"this just in, Todd Howard has just thought of an idea for Elder Scrolls 6"

[acoustic osprey]

ah yes, reminds me of Khaos from greek mythology

it is like the thought of what is before time

[meager junco]

I agree with tiny btw,
Elder scrolls lore is my favourite fantasy lore in all video games

[acoustic osprey]

of course, we may see sort of direction again with Evrima
but we're 2 solid years into Evrima lore (roughly) and no direction of that

so i do doubt we'll ever get anything like that
maybe besides a one off reference to something community wise (cough The Horde)

[acoustic osprey]

ah yeah

[meager junco]

He is darkness, he’s as old as the universe itself
Iirc(I’m rusty in the lore) sithis and another deity are the first ever technical beings in the elder scrolls,
It started with them

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

[meager junco]

Sithis and Anu

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[acoustic osprey]

i wonder if we'll ever have to worry about spectrogram stuff
it is minute
but you can hide small images of things or words through such in audio

i doubt so
but would be interesting

evrima still feels a lot less 'hyper cryptic/hidden' like that though

[hexed forge]

Looks like Craig the forklift driver

[low scarab]

I would like there to be at some point at least some sort of decrypting to do at least

It would be cool at the very least

[hexed forge]

mhm

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

aye
like what we had to do with the TCAM Lore Hunt
but more advanced

[low scarab]

Advanced is good

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[low scarab]

More encryption means more fun (within reason of course)

[acoustic osprey]

make us work for the lore lol

[low scarab]

Exactly

[lethal moat]

I really hope we get some sort of lawyer lore

https://tenor.com/view/were-gonna-make-a-fortune-with-this-place-money-bags-get-rich-good-idea-gif-16076903

[hexed forge]

"You did WHAT to WHAT"

[lethal moat]

“Alright, this technically isn’t human experimentation, but it’s really close, this bit absolutely is though, you gotta cut that out.”

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[hexed forge]

We'll just keep it secret and no one will ever know, no changes needed

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-no-jurassic-park-hammond-gif-16813602

[lethal moat]

The podcast continues (I need to start investing in things to increase quality, like any microphone better than my headphone's microphone)

[hexed forge]

Agreed lol

[tepid lantern]

what is that

[low scarab]

Js speak more confidently

Sometimes you stutter a little especially at the beginning other than that I don’t see any problems tbh

[acoustic osprey]

spectrogram

basically hiding hidden messages / images / etc through frequencies

[tepid lantern]

i mean, the thing in the spectrogram

[acoustic osprey]

spooky face

[hexed forge]

That's me on a Tuesday morning sorry

[tepid lantern]

np man

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[normal olive]

Anyone knows in which version of unreal engine 5 is the live branch of evrima? Is it the 5.5 or 5.4?

[hexed forge]

5.4

Wrong chat to ask in tho

[acoustic osprey]

^

lore is funny

there are days when i feel like i am completely empty of ideas, like today and the past few days,
then all of a sudden i get a surge of ideas popping into my head about pre-existing stuff

[lethal moat]

“How giant crabs play into the circle of life: a summary”

[acoustic osprey]

i feel like i'm pretty set on the crab situation being a prelude to strain development

at least, set on the theory of such

i don't really see it making sense in any other way, personally

[lethal moat]

I’m open to that being an option, but personally don’t think so

[acoustic osprey]

why

what do you think of it as such

[hexed forge]

Can you expand on what you mean?

[acoustic osprey]

FINE

[hexed forge]

oh

Proceeds to not expand on it

[lethal moat]

My break is over

[acoustic osprey]

CAN YOU GIVE ME A MINUTE

[hexed forge]

NOW

[lethal moat]

Random accident, especially if the crabs are capable of reproducing on their own

[hexed forge]

But.. They grew to massive sizes.

What caused them to randomly grow to massive sizes

[lethal moat]

A containment leak

[hexed forge]

Well we know it was a containment lea- yea

[hexed forge]

But what was in that containment leak

Could it be some early uncontrolled version of an H-Strain?

[acoustic osprey]

i believe the first development of strains (or at least the hyperendocrin strain development) started via, likely incidentally, through AE attempting to introduce megaflora to oceans

For me, this 'megaflora' aspect wouldn't correlate with Hypers nor strains if Don didn't refer to a containment leak

but because he has
this would infer that them introducing megaflora to the oceans is linked to fluids as well
being, likely, that "X" fluid was likely used to rejuvenate or maintain the 'large flora' (megaflora) in the ocean

somehow, such controlled fluid turned to a leak
and large crustaceans were made (evolved/turned into)

i believe this fluid to be a prelude to strains, or at least Hyperendocrins
i am not saying, though, this is version 1 of the Hyperendocrins or anything like that

more like being a proto/pseudo-hyperendocrin strain
not the same and likely very weak compared to the actual H-Strain

[hexed forge]

Mmm yes,

It very much could be. Thanks for the explanation !

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[wild palm]

Anyone can tell me a story/lore about Hypos/Hyper dinos?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-cat-cat-ai-cat-beer-mage-cat-gif-12868949205036685497

in terms of current lore?

eh

if you want to know the backstory of them
currently we're in a very greyzone for that type of stuff

#isle-lore-theories message
if you want, you can look at this

but that is just a theory

in Legacy
Strain creation occurred in Tartarus, for example with the Tissoplastic Reaper (Human-esque tisso)

[wild palm]

ah okay will do, do you know anything about the gen 1 humans?

[acoustic osprey]

however
besides that, we have basically nothing else

we do know there is a relation for strains with medicine
but strains are not directly related to medicine themselves

[wild palm]

is that this

[acoustic osprey]

yes and no
Reaper and other strain humans, in legacy, were presmed normal humans prior to be strained

but we do have more on Gen1s in Evrima though

i'll give you a better answer:

Began as a retaliatory product by AE as an overengineered answer to the question of, “What if something hits AE?”, and are an effective deterrent. They are approx. 7ft tall, hairless, very good at climbing. Gen1s are aware that the Replicator made it and serve said Replicator.
It is also not just a moniker for ‘one thing’ being that there are multiple “subclasses” for Gen1s. What Gen 1s are can vary wildly, and may be created for different reasons.

hopefully that is sufficient enough, lol

i do hope for some proper lore, something like some papers and the what not

but
sadly due the nature of development (game development over story/lore), our side of the community is always the slow drip-fed side lol

[wild palm]

dayum, lore seems fun not gonna lie. i just started getting into it

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-guitar-sunglasses-beard-wizard-gif-8056853888122559553

it is fun
but oh boy is it pain lol

[wild palm]

yeah man i can imagine lol

[acoustic osprey]

haha

but if you can endure, the reward is almost always worth it from what i've experienced

and if you're ever curious, you can join our Isle Lore discord server too

[lethal moat]

I do not consider them human https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[acoustic osprey]

They are under the human tab in isle though...

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[acoustic osprey]

and in the new ui too

almost forgot about that bit

[fast forge]

on yeah that was rumple's argument, that the new UI might not list them as human

[fast forge]

God I love the new UI

Reminds me of old 90's jurassic park games

https://tenor.com/view/sega-mega-drive-sega-genesis-jurassic-park-gif-3650336768195174186

[lethal moat]

Related to humans, maybe, but human?

https://tenor.com/view/absolutely-not-dan-levy-david-david-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20805019

Epic embed fail

[hexed forge]

I wouldn't call them Human

My definition of human is the homo genus

Homo sapiens
Homo etc etc etc (I don't know all of them)

I would call gen1 an artificial humanoid bio-weapon

[fast forge]

you are wrong, that is not how humans are defined

[hexed forge]

"My"

[fast forge]

Anything in the genus Homo is human

[hexed forge]

Thats.. thats what I said

Ah I said species

[fast forge]

no you said species

[hexed forge]

Yeah my mistake

[fast forge]

correct

Homo neanderthalis is a different species, but is still human

[hexed forge]

yea

[fast forge]

I think saying "Gen 1 aren't human" isn't taking into account just how broad a term a genus can be

[hexed forge]

Its an artificial creature.

[lethal moat]

Apollan-T(Therion) Deimos? Something along those lines?

[hexed forge]

I feel like Therion would be some other creature

A singular large beast rather than a mass produced product

[lethal moat]

Therion being a designation/description

[hexed forge]

Yeah but doesnt Therion mean "beast"?

[lethal moat]

Beast just meaning aggressive animal in this instance

Or something along those lines

So rex could also be Therion, cerato, troodon, etc

[hexed forge]

I dont think it would fit Gen1 imo

[lethal moat]

Maybe not

Dolofónos maybe?

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm, that fits a bit more, maybe..

Could that also be The Reaper?

If our image of the reaper is still the same as legacy that is

[lethal moat]

Isaac is typically better at this than I am, we’re going by groups here, rather than individuals (I think at least) like how Apollan-K is plant designation stuff, which is why I originally chose Therion

It very well could remain Apollan-K for everything

[hexed forge]

Well,

Apollan-K

Ktisis, it means creation iirc. Creation of Apollo, wouldnt that be for every AE asset?

[hexed forge]

You keep reading my mind, stop

[lethal moat]

I’m just bored and spitballing

[hexed forge]

Trying to keep this chat alive is tough indeed, especially during a lore drought

[lethal moat]

Lets discuss strain or structure designations

Could also provide insight into why different strains exist, assuming it’s still related to medical stuffs

[acoustic osprey]

But it does though

[bold crater]

I'm fairly certain it was said long long ago that the T-Reaper's design was scrapped, but the creature itself was still a thing in the lore.
This may have to do with Tissoplastic as a concept being redone, which was also said many moons ago.

[acoustic osprey]

No

[bold crater]

I'm sure I heard that once <:O

T'was ages ago.
Like....~2016ish?
Or around there....

[hexed forge]

And there have been canon reaper designs since 2017-18 iirc, soooo uh idk

[bold crater]

Well....perhaps there's more to it then ;><;
-# I still hope it gets a bit of a redesign though

I know for a fact thought Tissoplastic was said to be getting redone ages ago though. That I know fo' sho.

[acoustic osprey]

It was roughly late 2019

[bold crater]

Oh....
yikes I was off by a bit lmao

[acoustic osprey]

But a few years back someone asked Don
And he said it is still here

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[bold crater]

Hmm....

[fast forge]

thus supporting my argument

[hexed forge]

I like the current reaper design that we know of, but if it is being redone, hopefully it looks great

[acoustic osprey]

Yay

[bold crater]

I just hope Tissoplastic keeps the stealth vibes.
I want my camouflaging dinosaurs, damnit.

I would l o v e if T-Reaper leaned more into the man-bat theme though.

[hexed forge]

I hope they keep the venom idea

[bold crater]

The design we know of, I don't have many issues with.
Except the scythes....

Not a fan of those.

[lethal moat]

Have it attached at the elbows instead

[bold crater]

[lethal moat]

The scythes are fingers

[hexed forge]

hmm

[bold crater]

Oh I thought like this

[lethal moat]

Sword is fingies

[bold crater]

Yeah just like
add a lil wing in there

[hexed forge]

[bold crater]

One moment

Not the best example....
but like move the scythe fingies around a bit and give it w i n g

-# man bat

[lethal moat]

-# sword fingies must stay

[bold crater]

Yes yes
just connected to wing this time
like real bat kinda

[meager junco]

Hm
Just realized.
Gen 1 variant 1 has a very similar face structure to reaper

Like just remove the ears and the bat like mouth

[hexed forge]

Ehh.....

[bold crater]

Like....k i n d a like this?
Angle makes it odd.

I dunno, it being able to fly seems neat to me ;o;

[snow jasper]

biological cool epic cape

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-cape-darkness-solo-thswessel-gif-14510993171327393706

[bold crater]

I mean the thing's already 90% bat!
give it that last 10%!

[bold crater]

I will say though, and this is definitely just my onion
but T-Reaper doesn't really....resonate the vibes of what we've learned of Tissoplastic thus far, namely mega regeneration.

Like Colossus is obvious. Hyperendocrin makes things big and beefy.
Echidna is also good. Neurotenic makes things all gooey and weird with freaky abilities.
But Reaper just....I dunno. It's bat.
I guess the old idea of Tissoplastic stuff being quick with venom? Eh.

[low scarab]

lol

[snow jasper]

Type T of all the strains is my go-to

[meager junco]

I mean I’ll say it does look like a creature you’d spray bullets at and it’s still running at you full speed

[bold crater]

Maybe.
Looks rather frail in my eyes heehee

[lethal moat]

I see Reaper as a gen 1 dialed up to a 12, just excelling in everything they do at their size but much better

[meager junco]

That’s sort of what I was thinking
They look like a weaponized human

[hexed forge]

Arent reapers the size of a troodon? Or am I thinking of something else

[bold crater]

Ahthehoodawhoo
what

[lethal moat]

If I had to guess, human to gen 1 sized seems realistic, no idea where the hell you got troodon size tho

[hexed forge]

I saw a size comparison before,

I swear it was smaller than a human in size

[meager junco]

If we try to weigh it, I bet it’s much lighter than it seems

[lethal moat]

There haven’t been any official size comparisons, and I don’t think we ever got anything about size or weight

[hexed forge]

hmmmm

[meager junco]

If it was this size I’d say give it its wings

[bold crater]

Reaper valiantly riding it's Protoceratops into battle

[meager junco]

Isle turning into warhammer

[lethal moat]

Speaking of, Cerato, are you still interested in warhammer lore?

[meager junco]

Good god, even I stay away from that abyss, I’ll get sucked in and never get out

[lethal moat]

Tartarus ain’t so bad

Literally me:

https://tenor.com/view/goblinbailando-gif-18392272

[bold crater]

Playable humanoid strains in some manner even if unofficial please.
-# maybe official

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/40k-warhammer40k-on-my-way-omw-space-marine-gif-27011220

Also how many Reapers were made in legacy, was it 12?

[snow jasper]

there was a number?

[hexed forge]

yes

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/borat-wawaweewa-sacha-noam-baron-cohen-room-bedroom-gif-15858289

[bold crater]

Man.
Gotta wonder how the hell AE went from "Ah, agriculture! Plants! Food!"
to
"Listen hear me out, human man-bat"

[hexed forge]

Im trying to find where the hell I got the size from, thought it might be around its number count

[hexed forge]

The Reaper is probably just a side-effect of combining Humans/Gen1 with Tisso strain. If I had to guess.

[bold crater]

Yeah prolly.
Human trials n' such.

[meager junco]

Honestly probably same way matriarch got made
They were working on something and something else popped up under their microscopes
It was a slow decent from there

[bold crater]

"Hey, we're working on a way to allow people to regenerate damaged tissue if not entire lost limbs-woops it's a bat yep it's a bat now"

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/grandma-aggie-halloweentown-debbie-reynolds-magic-potion-gif-7486497

[lethal moat]

Alacablam, knowledge on ye #isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

Sounds like AE

[bold crater]

I know it's not like Jurassic Park where they use frog DNA and whatnot
but I do wonder if they've used the DNA of their own creations to aid in the development of other stuff.

I mean I know Troodon is apparently the result of "what if we did this with X creature" (X being unreleased currently). So maybe.

[meager junco]

The entirety of AE might be something like that tbh
“Let’s make a cure for cancer”
Creates new chemical and tries it on test subject
“Sir….you might want to see this…”

[bold crater]

Ah.
I see.
-# I still do not get it but I get it mildly more now.

[hexed forge]

X being velo

[lethal moat]

That sums up lore theories channel

[bold crater]

I still have a feeling it's Dilo since I'm pretty sure at the time that was said, Dilo was not released yet.

[hexed forge]

I still feel like its velo unless something new comes up

[bold crater]

Dilo is venomy
Troodon is venomy
Dilo is strange and unnerving
Troodon is strange and unnerving
Dilo has blue mouf
Troodon has blue mouf

[meager junco]

I don’t think it’s dilo either but I do like the points you make doc about the mouth and such

[bold crater]

Dilo is nocturnal
Troodon is nocturnal

It being Dilo or not, there's a lot of "hmm what a coinkydink" ness going on

[meager junco]

Don’t a lot of venomous animals have coloured mouths tho?

[bold crater]

🤷

[meager junco]

As a sort of warning

[hexed forge]

Not enough evidence imo,

Then you can say Herrera and Hypsi are related because they can both climb

[hexed forge]

I believe so yes,

Let the scientist answer this one tho @fast forge

[bold crater]

Well with that example, that's really just one thing.
Dilo and Troodon are many things.

[hexed forge]

Dilo/Troodon being both strange and nerving could go for a lot of playables too, its even more likely that its just a design choice for nocturnal creatures

[bold crater]

Persnaps.
I can see both Dilo or Velo really.

[hexed forge]

Dryo is a nocturnal creature

[meager junco]

Oh so

It’s not actually a sign of venom, but a sign to just try and deter predators

[hexed forge]

I believe we must look into specifics, not general facts

However not even my idea has a lot of evidence, since sizes are pretty general too

[meager junco]

“Like oooo my mouth is blue I might be poisoooon ooooo”

[bold crater]

Aposematism

[hexed forge]

Honestly now that I look at my idea again,

My only points are that they have a similar physical appearance and ability/ies

[fast forge]

This is called aposematic coloration, or aposematism

Lots of animals use this coloration to warn predators to stay away because they have a deadly defense. Oftentimes this coloration is more important than the venom itself because a physical encounter can easily leave an individual injured, even if it killed their opponent.

So for troodon it would be that display to say "don't mess with me, it could be bad"

But the troodon wants them to give up before it gets to a fight because troodon is small and fragile and can get hurt in a fight. Much easier to be scary

[bold crater]

Yay I was right! :3

[hexed forge]

Thanks tiny

[meager junco]

Both of us!

[fast forge]

There are also animals that have false aposematism,

[hexed forge]

ME

[bold crater]

[fast forge]

those usually look similar to another animal that is actually venomous, and only when they share a habitat

[bold crater]

Monarch Butterflies are like that, right?

[fast forge]

monarchs are toxic because they eat only milkweed plants

[meager junco]

Makes me wonder if megalenia will have a blue mouth as it seems to be the isle sign for venomous animals

[bold crater]

Oh I must have it the other way around then ;o;
I know there's a butterfly that looks like a Monarch or is one or something to deter stuff despite it itself not being nasty

[hexed forge]

Probably

Unless Megalania is more of a bacteria thing, similar to cera

[bold crater]

Mega not being venomous would be rather peculiar.