could be that 291 was snooping around the transmitter
#isle-lore-theories
zenith frigate
acoustic osprey
oh yes, most likely
seeing as that paper they found (the paper i sent) had "Offline?" written next to Olympus Transmitter
interrogation was killed.
do you believe the sweep teams had killed him?
zenith frigate
no i mean that 291 killed itself
acoustic osprey
hm
i believe he was 'an employee' prior
especially since he was at SHIFT and had a video log of him leaving/moving from such
it may be potentially if ERRANT-291 is 'created' (?) for the job
that it would be potentially longterm-ish
or at least
whomever set ERRANT-291 for the job
that they took the long game, letting ERRANT-291 be accustomed to the environment and with the environment (of the workplace)
zenith frigate
it does seem like he was an employee
the arrow shows him starting from the lodging area
some kind of sleeper agent
acoustic osprey
potentially came from F to start from
i doubt he would have a shift at a lodge
zenith frigate
bio trace goes down and he trys getting all the information he can from inside before attempting to escape
maybe the Xs are because he couldnt escape through those Entrys
zenith frigate
potentially came from F to start from
i doubt he would have a shift at a lodge
the lodges would just be his quarters wouldnt they
probably woke up and started sneaking around
acoustic osprey
the lodges would just be his quarters wouldnt they
probably woke up and started ...
it says he came from his SHIFT
maybe they only know a bit of the pie?
zenith frigate
detained after shift
acoustic osprey
well
more so that they only found video logs of him coming from D (Olympus Transmitter) because it was after his shift?
his whole journey feels like it would take longer than 7 minutes
I have a feeling the '7 seven minutes' part is the reason why he is referred to as an ERRANT
rather than 'spy, or etc (something more negative)'
zenith frigate
maybe 291 worked on the transmitter
stayed 7 minutes late and got arrested
The guide sheet points to him having other motives but maybe he just got really unlucky and was arrested before having a chance to act
acoustic osprey
what he had been doing prior
i.e. seeing if A, B and C were active (?) / accessible (?)
might be related to what he does as an employee
or that he was able to check, maybe digitally, that whatever was important about those three locations
was, for him, something he couldn't do - or he wasn't able to find out digitally, so ...
therefore he had to go physically?
the arrows though
from G to B, don't make much sense
when he was found in D
so it might be that maybe his presumed SHIFT was related to G and B?
or
the routes to go to D from A and F are more monitored
therefore notifying the local sweep / checkpoint teams when he was going to Olympus Transitter, which meant they had to detain him
acoustic osprey
maybe 291 worked on the transmitter
stayed 7 minutes late and got arrested
The ...
i doubt he worked on the Transmitter
he wouldn't've had "Offline?" on the paper, in my opinion
seems more so that he was confused that it was offline
zenith frigate
could be that he's just an employee that thinks he's being lied to (he is) and wants to investigate and find out.
after his shift he sneaks into the D section but doesnt understand anything about the transmitter
gets arrested
dead
acoustic osprey
acoustic osprey
could be that he's just an employee that thinks he's being lied to (he is) and w...
could be, potentially
Either he is doing it for someone/something else
or for himself
hexed forge
A spy. 
snow jasper
Have you tried running it through an AI to piece it all together?
snow jasper
if you gave it that, told it the text, censorship and what the red means
then gave it the 291-C sheets to draw further conclusions from
hexed forge
Thanks.
It actually summarized it quite well ngl, just didnt do what I asked it to do.
snow jasper
did you give it 291-C
hexed forge
No
hexed forge
What AI should I use then?
Its like the only AI that I know. 
snow jasper
it can only come up with prexisting information and retell it
snow jasper
What AI should I use then?
Its like the only AI that I know. <:TI_LUL:461642094...
idk, go forth and find one lol
or write your own
zenith frigate
-# create your own
hexed forge
hexed forge
idk, go forth and find one lol
snow jasper
https://tenor.com/view/it-doesnt-exist-not-existing-none-no-nope-gif-11708231
it does, its probably privatised
i.e. used by very anonymous people
hexed forge
Probably
hexed forge
i got a much much much longer response from chatgpt
What did you ask?
snow jasper
What did you ask?
still giving it info and still reading
hexed forge
I see
snow jasper
im writing it paragraphs of information and tasks specifically
also had to explain what guts was to it
hexed forge
Mmmmm
snow jasper
it still refers to 291 as an entity/anomaly and tries to make out its some creature
this is very wild theory
hexed forge
Interesting
snow jasper
given that security is attached to GUTS, i wouldn't be suprised if AE has the technology to pull off something like that
then again, thats also implying that 291-C is up to date, GUTS has changed in terms of planning and design since it was written, I dont exactly know if we can consider it 100% canon
I've not provided it with any information that isn't the images, or copy and pasted messages from Dondi/Punch themselves
hexed forge
Mmmmmm
fast forge
for a while I've thought 291 might be sent by the replicator or something, and falls into that "anomalous entity" category
I like to think a nascent version of the replicator was using pawns like 291 to scout it's environment, in a sense
snow jasper
true, i've not told gpt of the replicator, but thats such a massive topic, it'd be hard to accurately relay it over to it and 291 and back again
would be fun to try something like this again with AI in a years time, maybe when its been improved
fast forge
I'll be honest I don't think there's much chatgpt or any similar algorithm could tell me that I wouldn't be able to consider myself
hexed forge
Im sticking to the theory of Errant being a spy/he thinks that AE has been lying to him.
Basically a traitor in both scenarios.
fast forge
Im sticking to the theory of Errant being a spy/he thinks that AE has been lying...
I do also like the idea that 291 was just a spy dropped onto this island for corporate espionage, with no idea what this place is actually like
snow jasper
sounds like suicide
fast forge
although dropping dead from a heart attack at a suspicious time seems to suggest some sci-fi factor, which makes me think replicator just turned his switch off
hexed forge
I think that he just swallowed some sort of pill to kill himself.
A back-up plan incase he gets caught.
fast forge
That seems possible too, but a little less likely as he would have been thoroughly searched before that point
I dunno maybe 291 had a fake cyanide tooth
(also I realized we fell back into saying "he" for 291, even though we don't know their gender)
low scarab
Yk what would be cool is if your playing as a creature that’s an eip you get an occasional overlay audio of like a voice whispering stuff or like random “memories”
fast forge
I think that he just swallowed some sort of pill to kill himself.
A back-up pl...
It does occur to me, if it was a poison pill, wouldn't that most likely show up when they did the autopsy? But they just stated it was a heart attack
fast forge
Yk what would be cool is if your playing as a creature that’s an eip you get an ...
I actually have a fanfic in mind about an animal with plastic and steel dreams...
hexed forge
It does occur to me, if it was a poison pill, wouldn't that most likely show up ...
Maybe it would, maybe it wouldnt.
Im not sure how well the technology was back then. Well, unless Errant actually takes place in 2172 
low scarab
I actually have a fanfic in mind about an animal with plastic and steel dreams.....
What does plastic and steel dreams mean?
fast forge
Maybe it would, maybe it wouldnt.
Im not sure how well the technology was back ...
Even in the 90's some bloodwork could show if you had a toxin that caused a heart attack
fast forge
What does plastic and steel dreams mean?
vague memories of being a human researcher
hexed forge
Even in the 90's some bloodwork could show if you had a toxin that caused a hear...
Oh I see
fast forge
although 291 could have happened in the 1960's for all we know
low scarab
But imagine playing as matriarch and something whispers in your ear “think of my children”
icy onyx
huh
lethal moat
But imagine playing as matriarch and something whispers in your ear “think of my...
Imagine being a neuro and something tells you to take charge
low scarab
Very cool idea
acoustic osprey
We need this in the game change my mind
We did technically did lol
hexed forge
We did technically did lol
We did?
hexed forge
I see.
snow jasper
can you now?
acoustic osprey
We did?
Welcome to The Isle
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
YOU DID NOT SAY THE DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
The end is never the end
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
Death is only the beginning
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
Cranial abnormality in asset (A.fragilis), re-sequencing. .
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
All island visitors must wear identity tags at all times
(it was in binary though)
snow jasper
I can say I‘ve got my tag on 😎
acoustic osprey
oh nice
hexed forge
> Welcome to The Isle
> YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
> YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAG...
Oh lol
acoustic osprey
yeah, very old though
acoustic osprey
Have you tried running it through an AI to piece it all together?
which part though?
the image itself?
problem is, with the image, there still is insufficient actual data within the blacked out lines
snow jasper
which part though?
the image itself?
i already did
told it as much as whats been given to us
acoustic osprey
fair
hexed forge
Im hoping that the next HT includes the new GUTS hubs. Maybe with the additional glance sheets.
acoustic osprey
maybe even some lore papers...
hexed forge
Yeahhhh!!
The protocol papers.
acoustic osprey
probably not new papers
i did try asking though
Don did start to type, but likely didn't want to answer my question lol
which is fair
Gotta find it ourselves. See if there are any new papers
hexed forge
Lol
acoustic osprey
yea...
snow jasper
( i wanted augustus video )
hexed forge
( I wanted errant since its such a mysterious subject )
snow jasper
yeah well guts might clear that up, so i‘d have waited
hexed forge
Maybe............
acoustic osprey
i don't think i went insane enough in dibble tcam vid
hexed forge
You did everything EXCEPT discuss the actual injection !!
hexed forge
snow jasper
looks so stupid
hexed forge
Look at what F5 has done to that dog.
snow jasper
huhh sfx
lethal moat
We still discussing the one troodon trail cam that is insignificant?
hexed forge
No
snow jasper
are any of those trail cams significant
acoustic osprey
looks so stupid
NO
hexed forge
are any of those trail cams significant
Filler Lore
snow jasper
lethal moat
are any of those trail cams significant
Perchance
snow jasper
i really just think it was showing off the upcoming playables
lethal moat
Same
hexed forge
I agree with the fact that its just "filler" lore.
Gives us some sort of understanding of what AE does.
(Isaac changed my mind on this topic)
snow jasper
ut wasnt until augustus where it was taken far more serious with the storyboarding and writing
really annoying we could have had a quetz video
lethal moat
I could really go for another incident report 
hexed forge
really annoying we could have had a quetz video
Were we? I dont think we were supposed to.
hexed forge
I could really go for another incident report <:TI_Succ:447626423365271562>
Halloween......video.....where... maybe christmas..
acoustic osprey
are any of those trail cams significant
i mean
not really
but yes, to some degree to lore
is it significant to the story? Definitely not
but i was talking to Cerato about this yesterday
I believe the Teno TCAM video to add a bit more character / context to AE
as that video basically shows us a typically normal TCAM by AE, when things are pretty much 'normal' without things being destroyed and the what not
rather than just being "AE got attacked by Herrera! AE's servers are so bad! AE got an errant who died mysteriously"
lethal moat
Halloween......video.....where... maybe christmas..
acoustic osprey
I could really go for another incident report <:TI_Succ:447626423365271562>
if anything, I can see an actual new lore sheet being released when Don puts the old sheets in the game
snow jasper
reminds me of alveus sanctuary live cams
acoustic osprey
Were we? I dont think we were supposed to.
iirc, Quetz was supposed to be in the Dibble TCAM or the AUGUSTUS vid vid
lethal moat
if anything, I can see an actual new lore sheet being released when Don puts the...
I'll take 5 please
hexed forge
iirc, Quetz was supposed to be in the Dibble TCAM or the AUGUSTUS vid vid
Yes, thats correct, but we werent supposed to have a video surrounding quetz.
acoustic osprey
I'll take 5 please
acoustic osprey
Yes, thats correct, but we werent supposed to have a video surrounding quetz.
yeah
snow jasper
it was considered
acoustic osprey
i just hope they're quality
IF we do get any new lore papers (in-game)
hexed forge
I hope Dons comment on the glance sheet means that the extra glance sheets are already finished and ingame.. I hope..
And not just that "Yes there will be more glance sheets to find ingame"
hexed forge
i just hope they're quality
IF we do get any new lore papers (in-game)
4 pixels
hexed forge
Try figuring that out !!
snow jasper
the in game glance sheets are cool for in game story telling
not cool for me getting my 4k downloadable image file at hand
bold crater
New documents added in-game
It's a bunch of weird symbols (our animals cannot decipher human writing)
acoustic osprey
the in game glance sheets are cool for in game story telling
not cool for me ge...
lol
acoustic osprey
New documents added in-game
It's a bunch of weird symbols (our animals cannot de...
hexed forge
Maybe if we find them all Don posts them all in Phase three in 4k.
bold crater
Dog
acoustic osprey
NO
snow jasper
that also makes me worried if ue will just crunch the texture making it unreadable
hexed forge
Maybe if we find them all Don posts them all in Phase three in 4k.
As a reward!
acoustic osprey
Maybe if we find them all Don posts them all in Phase three in 4k.
that would be cool though
here is a reward for your suffering
hexed forge
that would be cool though
here is a reward for your suffering
Yes !
acoustic osprey
that also makes me worried if ue will just crunch the texture making it unreadab...
try read the current papers in game
snow jasper
Maybe if we find them all Don posts them all in Phase three in 4k.
if we find it, you‘d have 98% of the community still unaware
hexed forge
(The 4k images have a bunch of blanks covered by black boxes while the In-game version is incredibly pixelated BUT without the black boxes)
acoustic osprey
(The 4k images have a bunch of blanks covered by black boxes while the In-game v...
that is a neat idea
snow jasper
lorecord is 300 / 125,000 people in the isle btw
hexed forge
that is a neat idea
NO
hexed forge
THAT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE A GOOD IDEA!!
acoustic osprey
i need the challenge !!!
snow jasper
(The 4k images have a bunch of blanks covered by black boxes while the In-game v...
that means its in the files to be found
hexed forge
i need the challenge !!!
You would say that with Errant however here you are 2 years later..
acoustic osprey
You would say that with Errant however here you are 2 years later..
I still say it !!!! It just is literally impossible to continue!!!
hexed forge
that means its in the files to be found
Dataminer
Fish react this man.
acoustic osprey
in-game files are still low res
snow jasper
i dont datamine, i have people for that
hexed forge
Even more fish.
snow jasper
you smell of fish
hexed forge
oh
acoustic osprey
hexed forge
I still say it !!!! It just is literally impossible to continue!!!
The pain shall continue then..
snow jasper
*** Bum biddy biddy biddy Bum Bum***
hexed forge
acoustic osprey
i don't see any new video being this year, relating to lore
i do see maybe some lore papers though!
snow jasper
# The hope shall not die.
hexed forge
i do see maybe some lore papers though!
lethal moat
Maybe Dondi will stop starving us 
acoustic osprey
haha!!
lethal moat
Consistent loredrops would be loved
acoustic osprey
hexed forge
Yeah, like the Lore video streak on Halloween and April fools that started-that shortly got ruined 3 days ago.
snow jasper
Consistent loredrops would be loved
hexed forge
July lore stream
hexed forge
Or was it June,
I forgot.
acoustic osprey
i don't mind not having consistent dropping of lore
if we get quality
but the wait does make a man hunger lol
snow jasper
https://tenor.com/view/joker-dc-comics-gif-24835425
hexed forge
Who knows maybe a maia/rex Lore video with Maias release as a trailer !!
lethal moat
i don't mind not having consistent dropping of lore
if we get quality
but the w...
Hear me out right? Backlog of lore that we get dripfed
snow jasper
cerato after 1 day of volunteering ^
hexed forge
SO TRUE
snow jasper
the fact nobody can see those messages is funnier
hexed forge
It hurts my mental state to...
Rmb + Ctrl C + Ctrl V and repeat 50000 times...
My mental state is deteriorating.
lethal moat
Poor lil guy
snow jasper
hexed forge
And then I have to deal with YOU putting Ava in the HERBIVORE section even THOUGH ITS AN OMNIVORE !!
lethal moat
snow jasper
i stand by it being a herbivore and you failed to prove me wrong
hexed forge
It ate the damn juvi raptors
snow jasper
did it though
hexed forge
ANYWAYS.
Shirley and Dean.
Honestly what are the chances of Don scripting a Rex Lore Video at that time while sharing it with us.
acoustic osprey
potentially
snow jasper
i say a 2 chickens out of 12 swirly lollipop
hexed forge
Thanks.
lethal moat
We all love dean
snow jasper
i dont
acoustic osprey
lethal moat
I think I found a new favorite comparison for gen 1 in media, the creatures from "The Descent" are sufficiently terrifying and skrungly and human adjacent
lethal moat
The movie is excessively gorey in my opinion, but the vibe of the creatures was what I kind of expect of gen 1, including the blood pit (no idea why that existed in the movie, but it was easier to pretend like it was gen 1 spookiness at that point than to follow the actual plot)
acoustic osprey
for me, Gen1s feel like the cannibals from The Forest
unsure about sons of the forest
will not play until my friend gets his new pc
knotty locust
for me, Gen1s feel like the cannibals from The Forest
it depends on the iteration of gen 1s for me, tbh
for example, the older concept art of the "orc" gen 1s gave that forest cannibal feel
these new ones give cryptid feels
like the Rake and whatever else is pale skinned, bonethin, and runs around in the darkness
i'd have to see some animations (PLEASE DEVS) to get a better feeling from them
what about you, dondi, what kind of feeling does the generation 1 give you
acoustic osprey
it depends on the iteration of gen 1s for me, tbh
to be fair
Cannibals in Forest aren't that orcish, in my opinion
but they're definitely more human looking than the Gen1s we've seen
knotty locust
to be fair
Cannibals in Forest aren't that orcish, in my opinion
but they're def...
yeah but they show their orciness by being incredibly primitive
acoustic osprey
yeah but they show their orciness by being incredibly primitive
erm but the gen1s
knotty locust
erm but the gen1s
yeah the new gen 1s are very different
acoustic osprey
yeah the new gen 1s are very different
they still pretty primitive, at least still brutish
knotty locust
they still pretty primitive, at least still brutish
they dont look it, though, thats the thing
they look too lanky, gangly
knotty locust
i would say v2 looks more brutish than v1
but it might be a trick of the shading
acoustic osprey
but it might be a trick of the shading
might just be
knotty locust
tree brutes
tree brutes would be a nice deviation from the norm
acoustic osprey
yeah, definitely
knotty locust
id just really, really like to know if these guys do infact use tools
knotty locust
alternatively, it could be more like an inquisitive crow watching you
a normal gen 1 uses nothing, but if it watches something use a tool, it attempts to mimic/learn
though that might be more lore related, rather than gameplay related
acoustic osprey
a normal gen 1 uses nothing, but if it watches something use a tool, it attempts...
adapt to the environment is interesting
knotty locust
adapt to the *environment* is interesting
would be a part of the whole "company attackdog"
acoustic osprey
slowly get Gen1s who are more ocean trained
human facility trained
jungle trained, etc
knotty locust
yeag
acoustic osprey
would be a part of the whole "company attackdog"
knotty locust
once a gen 1 is ready for replication, replicate its experience in a certain field alongside the gen 1, and youve now got an undying enemy that constantly learns and adapts
makes them truly terrifying
acoustic osprey
that would be cool
knotty locust
a horror antagonist that cant be killed is boring
a horror antagonist that CAN be killed, but comes back stronger, is far more interesting
acoustic osprey
would better explain to what Don inferred by some Gen1s not being as strong when climbing in thick weather
trained for a different field, but still can naturally climb by default - potentially
acoustic osprey
a horror antagonist that cant be killed is boring
a horror antagonist that CAN ...
knotty locust
so long as the gen 1 is recovered, it can be recycled to create another
bold crater
Yo
I got a wild theory
Okay so like
we know Troodon is this result of a "what if we did this with X animal" that, at the time, wasn't in game yet.
I say at the time because unless I'm remembering the date we were told this wrong.....what if uh
what if creature X was Dilophosaurus.
I say this purely because they are both nocturnal, venomous, but primarily because they both have the same blue inner mouth.
That's pretty much it yep.
lethal moat
Could be
bold crater
meager junco
Honestly I wouldn’t of thought of it but those are good points
hexed forge
Okay so like
we know Troodon is this result of a "what if we did this with X ani...
I was thinking that X creature was velo.
Both similar size.
"Venomified nocturnal velo"
Also why am I still pink
My nitro was supposed to run out yesterday..
chrome acorn
Touched by the ruinous powers
lethal moat
Electrically charged moats of water to keep out gen 1
lethal moat
It doesn’t need to be deep, it could just be puddle depth even
Until gen 1 figure out they can make stepping stones
lethal moat
If it’s not deep, it’s easier to be wide
hexed forge
True
lethal moat
Less water and labor to build it, plus it would be less likely something would get shocked and drown, it gets zapped, seizes for a bit, and runs off
hexed forge
Then I guess that could work as a way to keep them out. But not for the long term, they probably are smart enough to figure out how to not get shocked. Maybe they use objects to cross it, or stones, just like you said.
fast forge
It doesn’t need to be deep, it could just be puddle depth even
I think voltage would not be consistent across a pool of water
There's a reason we use electric fences and not electric moats
lethal moat
Water with electric chicken wire inside it
fast forge
Water with electric chicken wire inside it
still wouldn't be consistent
lethal moat
Yolo
acoustic osprey
The pit of doom TM
the pit of tartarus
i do wonder how they would've 'storaged/kept/held' Gen1s on the island(s)
this, i suppose, is our only potential reference to such
Especially the first one
Tamim is looking at the old lore doc archive
and, therefore, i am looking at it now again for the 50 millionth time
honestly
I do wonder if we'll be able to sap out any lore in the upcoming UI overhaul
like with this
for example
Welcome to The Isle
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
YOU DID NOT SAY THE DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
The end is never the end
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
Death is only the beginning
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
Cranial abnormality in asset (A.fragilis), re-sequencing. .
YOU DID NOT SAY THE MAGIC WORD
All island visitors must wear identity tags at all times.
Thank
Flashing Text (credit: Buder)
System Access Locked
Awaiting User Input
. . .
Site AE-12 Verified
Sat Link Verified
. . .
Syscheck Error
Network Integrity
Compromised
. . .
Electromagnetic
Fluctuation Detected
In Sector 4
. . .
-Search Query-
AE System Directory
Site I-04 / AE---
. . .
Sector H4
Lockdown Protocol Reset
. . .
Req. VDoc #47
Fatality Investigation Report
. . .
Indent
AE-012. TRX 8443
Req. Val: N/A
. . .
Apollo Core
O N L I N E
. . .
WARNING!
Gateway Containment Failure
. . .
-Search Query-
AE System Directory
Site I-04 / AE---
. . .
ERROR- Insufficient Replicator
Purging Data Buffers
. . .
Cortex Corruption Level
Within Acceptable Parameters
Triangulating Asset Location
. . .
Updating Island-Manifest. . .
. . .
Applying Ultraviolet Protection
. . .
Updating Island-Manifest. . .
. . .
Cortex Corruption Level
Within Acceptable Parameters
. . .
Cortex Corruption Level
Within Acceptable Parameters
. . .
Selecting Target
For Imaging. . .
. . .
Selecting Target
For Imaging. . .
. . .
Selecting Target
For Imaging. . .
. . .
ERROR- Insufficient Replicator Data
Purging Data Buffers
you have all these little things
but it is worth while to acknowledge Legacy's UI is FAR less minimalistic
more so, every white space seems full of 'standard hacking-looking computer text'
where the new UI overhaul seems to take a more minimalistic design
so actually putting visual lore like what was showed prior would be a lot harder
unless we did an old little isle trick
specifically this
basically a little and clever way of not over designing little lore tid bits
but making it a hidden button
which took you to OLYMPUS TRANSMITTER iirc
it has been so long now
there was even, also, a little lore event thing about someone logging in
i believe this was Khorne
albeit
it HAS been 6 or so years
which was in reference to this, iirc
"logining in"
(oldish legacy menu)
low scarab
Did someone mention Olympus transmitter
acoustic osprey
NO
low scarab
Ngl I was really hoping for its return with the ui showcase maybe a teaser in the form of the icon twitter link returning
acoustic osprey
i don't think it'll come back
Besides it just being offline
but who knows
maybe we'll get something like Hermes Protocol and OLYMPUS TRANSMITTER will be fixed
low scarab
Ik but it left a lore sized hole in my heart
acoustic osprey
Ik but it left a lore sized hole in my heart
lethal moat
We’ve got to do stuff in game to fix the Olympus transmitter 🤞
low scarab
but who knows
maybe we'll get something like *Hermes Protocol and OLYMPUS TRANS...
Be cool but I would doubt it tbh
low scarab
We’ve got to do stuff in game to fix the Olympus transmitter 🤞
This
acoustic osprey
Be cool but I would doubt it tbh
but i do believe that we're less likely to see it come back
acoustic osprey
low scarab
Right now it’s very dry
acoustic osprey
i am terribly curious on how Don wants to generally direct lore
low scarab
Mhm
acoustic osprey
because
we've been going in different directions if you contrast it with 2018
New:
Lore videos
Lore papers
Old:
Lore streams (User inquiries)
Loading screens
Lore Twitter Account
besides that though
we have similarities like Don coming in here or his own streams and telling us about stuff (both 2018 and now)
i do believe though that Don did showcase more stuff in 2018
rather than letting it be revealed slowly over time
low scarab
New:
Lore videos
Lore papers
Old:
Lore streams (User inquiries)
Loading screen...
Well I would be surprised if don doesn’t include at least a little something within the ui like the loading screens
fast forge
New:
Lore videos
Lore papers
Old:
Lore streams (User inquiries)
Loading screen...
would be fun to see the twitter account reactivated
although that would also mean I'd have to use twitter
acoustic osprey
would be fun to see the twitter account reactivated
although that would also me...
lol
acoustic osprey
Well I would be surprised if don doesn’t include at least a little something wit...
Yeah, i'd be a bit sad if there was nothing added lore-wise to the UI
besides visual design being 'lore orientated'
but it is like saying we got lore in the Lore Hunt
because we technically didn't
it was just lore orientated
fast forge
Yeah, i'd be a bit sad if there was nothing added lore-wise to the UI
besides v...
a mention of EIPs or Tartarus would be nice 
low scarab
*but it is like saying we got lore in the Lore Hunt*
… we don’t mention the lore hunt
acoustic osprey
a mention of EIPs or Tartarus would be nice <:TI_Hungry:838078749119479819>
OH what would be cool if we had the ARCHIVE(7) glitching in the UI
low scarab
I did think it was pretty cool to hide the code as a YouTube url though
acoustic osprey
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179605042618175488/1247356583478820935/Idid_the_funny.png?ex=672b6a98&is=672a1918&hm=49705f1660aa93892a11c5bc9bdb8e9f423f1e3d5550493d05c487bdadeccc7f&
get a little tartarus glitch pop up
acoustic osprey
I did think it was pretty cool to hide the code as a YouTube url though
oh yeah, quite so
at least we did know the Lore Hunt was a test
so i'd imagine future ones would be far more lored than simply 'lore orientated'
fast forge
I could see EIP's being relevant to game UI
"Booting Embryonic Intelligence Profile"
acoustic osprey
I could see EIP's being relevant to game UI
"Booting Embryonic Intelligence Pro...
mmmm
basically what we have in the dinosaur TAB menu in-game
low scarab
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179605042618175488/1247356583478820935/I...
“Tartarus is the funny word”
lethal moat
I could see EIP's being relevant to game UI
"Booting Embryonic Intelligence Pro...
Sourcing biotrace
acoustic osprey
acoustic osprey
“Tartarus is the funny word”
it IS the word, which is funny
low scarab
I do miss the loading screens
fast forge
"Establishing connection to Olympus Transmitter"
acoustic osprey
not a big fan of the loading screens coming back though
even if they looked more like the new UI
unless they can make the context of the words more fitting to why they would need words in a loading screen
acoustic osprey
"Establishing connection to Olympus Transmitter"
fast forge
fast forge
https://tenor.com/view/persona-persona3-the-dark-hour-dark-hour-gif-18863888
what is this from, I recognize it
lethal moat
Dunno
fast forge
Doctor Who? I think?
acoustic osprey
persona 3
low scarab
unless they can make the context of the words more fitting to *why* they would n...
That’s understandable
acoustic osprey
That’s understandable
acoustic osprey
lol
low scarab
https://tenor.com/view/the-stanley-parable-game-the-end-is-never-the-end-loop-ul...
Death will set you free a thousand lives that’s what you owe Apollo…
fast forge
https://tenor.com/view/doctorwho-mattsmith-eleven-cowboys-hat-gif-5044178
'The Rogue Prince'
acoustic osprey
Death will set you free a thousand lives that’s what you owe Apollo…
would be cool for loading screen 🙂
fast forge
wait what am I doing here, I could be reading a feast for crows...
acoustic osprey
yeah!!
fast forge
best way to pass a bus ride
acoustic osprey
best way to pass a bus ride
i'm doing this with the Narnia Chronicles whenever i go to Uni on the train
now, lore question to y'all, with the new UI
do you believe the actual using the OS/computer (the UI itself in-game in the game menu) is a PROFILE (aka. You) accessing a terminal/computer prior to their next 'profile injection' into their next body? ||we don't really have a term yet - but Injection seems like it is close||
or is it more so seperated
Where it has no true 'lore meaning' (contrasted to a lot of legacy lore on that point)
and it is just the replication of actual Evrima lore's OS UI
low scarab
I would argue the latter
I would doubt that someone is actually choosing the next injection and it’s more so not lore based
And more so just pretend replicator ui I guess
lethal moat
Are you the profile, the replicator, or neither
acoustic osprey
i mean, in legacy
you were the profile
because you're playing as the creator
i'll still imagine it as such in Evrima though
seeing as, at least, EIPs are still here
which means profiles are still relevant
hexed forge
i believe this was Khorne
albeit
it HAS been 6 or so years
Yes
acoustic osprey
thanks
hexed forge
oh
hexed forge
now, lore question to y'all, with the new UI
do you believe the actual *using* ...
Yes to the first.
acoustic osprey
yay
thin vine
So the new plants are AE created? like fully?
lethal moat
So the new plants are AE created? like fully?
Likely, given their name means “Trifolium made by Apollo”
acoustic osprey
So the new plants are AE created? like fully?
it quite likely is that all (or almost all) the plants are made by AE
it may be, though, that Apollon's Trifolium is, more or less, a bit like Omniraptor
albeit, Trifolium is already a plant
just completely different
I do wonder why though
fast forge
albeit, Trifolium is already a plant
just completely different
I do wonder why ...
I think it will look like clover when they update the model
acoustic osprey
will they though?
fast forge
So the new plants are AE created? like fully?
We know from the dibble vid that the oranges and cashews have been genetically engineered using CRISPR, a real-life gene editing technique
We think it's likely that many/all other plants are engineered as well
Many of them are native to temperate climates, and would not survive in the tropics
hexed forge
Not exactly of what I was thinking of... but I guess.. maybe they will?
fast forge
yes, gimme scifi plants
hexed forge
Strain plants..
fast forge
Maybe
I'd hope that not everything is strain stuff, and some are just weird genetic experiments
acoustic osprey
matriarch
lethal moat
Where
fast forge
and then actual strain stuff, when it arrives is really weird
I hope you see 100 weird blue bushes
but then one day you see the brain bush
if the norm is bizarre, make the eerie stuff rare
hexed forge
Lol
serene hare
Any daily dose of lore i can inhale?
lethal moat
Any daily dose of lore i can inhale?
Apollan Ktisis Trifolium translates roughly to "Trifolium, creation of Apollo"
serene hare
alr
knotty locust
i would love to see some kind of broadleaf plant created by apollo for dietary purposes
patent ginkgo
Both broadleaf and seem to be for dietary research
Though not fully created, seems more slightly modified
unborn kestrel
Is there any Lore surrounding whether AE has experimented with aquatic critters ? Excluding deino’s of course
acoustic osprey
Is there any Lore surrounding whether AE has experimented with aquatic critters ...
potentially yes
right now? Not really, unless you count crustaceans as aquatic critters lol
but soon? Seems like it (soon)
serene hare
Daily dose of the isle lore i need
hexed forge
Daily dose of the isle lore i need
Gen1 are used by AE as a retaliatory weapon.
shadow nebula
retaliate against what
hexed forge
Or just poor Joe who left a bad review on the new coffee machine.
(He committed treason by saying that) 
hexed forge
Finally no longer pink
acoustic osprey
yay
fast forge
Finally no longer pink
no more pink
I like my cerato burgers well done
hexed forge
snow jasper
Finally no longer pink
hexed forge
Restart discord.
snow jasper
no
hexed forge
snow jasper
its good to have you back cerato
hexed forge
yay
patent ginkgo
Still pink
zenith frigate
the fish is different
acoustic osprey
thanks
hexed forge
Should be a feature for the pink people, and purple.
acoustic osprey
hmm
fast forge
hmm
hexed forge
hmm
valid geyser
hmm
acoustic osprey
Added an option to change UI volume
hexed forge
> Added an option to change UI volume
Community feedback !!
hexed forge
I saw someone post something like that in feedback a few days ago. I think it got a checkmark or smthn
hexed forge
yay
acoustic osprey
do you wonder if there will be a labyrinth reference within or related to GUTS?
or is simply the existence of GUTS is enough as a labyrinth reference
hexed forge
do you wonder if there will be a labyrinth reference within or related to GUTS? ...
Existence of GUTS probably is a labyrinth reference.
acoustic osprey
Existence of GUTS probably is a labyrinth reference.
hexed forge
https://tenor.com/view/boring-gif-18553963
acoustic osprey
oh
hexed forge
https://tenor.com/view/boring-gif-18553963
Tissos being the mini-minotaurs.
Or could be just The Reaper.
More "humanoid"
hexed forge
oh
acoustic osprey
i now constitute almost 15% of this channel
snow jasper
How did you do the math
hexed forge
Lol
snow jasper
oh yeh, of course
thats actually really damn simple
acoustic osprey
hexed forge
Yeah...
snow jasper
27,541 of 186,111
hexed forge
Oh
snow jasper
im the 0.5%
hexed forge
acoustic osprey
im the 0.5%
yeah..
snow jasper
i literally am 😎
hexed forge
Lol
hexed forge
NOO
hexed forge
acoustic osprey
probably only a few thousand
nothing much
acoustic osprey
exactly
snow jasper
how long ago did you migrate to this one?
acoustic osprey
april 2022
acoustic osprey
i was active in isle lore theories from 2020 or late 2019 on my old account
hexed forge
Lightclaw...
acoustic osprey
very recent
i seem to recall you being here AFTER !!
snow jasper
this is also a new account
acoustic osprey
that is what they all say
snow jasper
aight, let me pull up my dms with saoul
hexed forge
Too many new accounts to hide their old identity!
acoustic osprey
i just know i found out the original server was deleted
so i rejoined a bit after this server was made
acoustic osprey
I migrated to this channel in like.... I don't remember <:TI_Derp:73534304469345...
only one way to find out
hexed forge
only one way to find out
I'm on phone
acoustic osprey
hexed forge
yay
snow jasper
as a matter of a fact, i believe i still might have the account "DoctorDoggo" in this server still
thats another account my silly self got locked out of
legendary username
acoustic osprey
why
hexed forge
as a matter of a fact, i believe i still might have the account "DoctorDoggo" in...
Alt-Account
BANNED
snow jasper
its no longer in this server
hexed forge
@doctordoggo
fossil nebula
https://tenor.com/view/shotgun-i-have-a-shotgun-can-explode-shoot-water-gif-1272...
"and I've got a shotgun"
dapper crown
What’s like the AE lore idea as of now? Just wondering
Because I still don’t get if AE abandoned the island, if the dinos killed everyone on the island, if AE is still on the island
lethal moat
What’s like the AE lore idea as of now? Just wondering
This is about all we know https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit, we still aren’t sure the reason for abandoning the island or how it happened
hexed forge
Alright what did I miss in the stream? Anything lore related
Oh it's still going, nice.
snow jasper
Alright what did I miss in the stream? Anything lore related
tower
hexed forge
Did he talk about the big towers from legacy?
snow jasper
ehhhhh not in depth
hexed forge
I see
hexed forge
Tower right next to Docks btw
Also.. thats a lot of satellite dishes..
That might be a whole other facility up there. 
acoustic osprey
Nice
hexed forge
Mhm
acoustic osprey
Still says aequor.... lol
regal horizon
Angle from the South side, above GUTS entrance.
I know you must have the full version of this, maybe
Pls tell me you do 😂
Nvm got it 🤙
hexed forge
I know you must have the full version of this, maybe <:TI_Succ:44762642336527156...
bruh
regal horizon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205981060194893855/1211364498666033232/N...
But still thanks 😂❤️
hexed forge
hexed forge
regal horizon
Jolly was faster 
hexed forge
I just realized there are crates washed up here.
(Lots of crates, a lot more load in when he gets closer)
FYI this is on the eastern Coast, slightly south of Docks.
acoustic osprey
Fun Spiro vibes
hexed forge
Something called "Cryptodome Complex" over the Volcano.
lethal moat
hexed forge
Texan visitors have their own private island.
acoustic osprey
Does that say Texas. <:TI_Derp:735343044693459024>
Tower
acoustic osprey
Where they mine crypto
hexed forge
acoustic osprey
Gotta be cautious though
Could be another case of misleading locations and names
hexed forge
True.
icy onyx
Indeed.
icy onyx
is vincent in lore?
hexed forge
No
icy onyx
Vincent could be the first kentro to succesfully grow spikes
hexed forge
hexed forge
Im aware, just adding onto what it could be if it even is real.
dapper cedar
Someone send me photos of John cake
lofty swallow
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205981060194893855/1211364498666033232/N...
never noticed the "slurp" captions 
acoustic osprey
Im aware, just adding onto what it *could be* if it even is real.
Yes
icy onyx
Bro just cant handle peak
acoustic osprey
Uh oh
acoustic osprey
so apparently Don talked about adding a TCAM filter for replays
which sound really cool (basically a replication of the TCAM videos, with the black bar)
but me and Cerato had some discourse over such
basically, for me, i believe we might get some conclusion for GW_F5 finally
where, if the TCAM filter is actually good and works - it would be reflective of where your camera is
e.g. it is raining at night - cold at 1:31am (for example) and you're at K15? ... cool! GW_K15 !
however
we do know that the last TCAM vid, the Dibble Video, the actual TCAM location isn't at GW_F5
now it is important to note
we actually don't know what GW_## means technically
all we have presumed for it to be is a locational tag, which would make sense
but, both the AUGUSTUS and Dibble TCAM video GW_##s don't match
especially with Dibble
where the AUGUSTUS one is close but we can't really confirm anything with it
Now the hope is, for all of us, is that it (the TCAM filter) may finally be reflective of what GW_## actually means
for all we know if it shows proper locational data
this may give us a new and more 'confirmed' insight into the meaning of WHAT GW_F5 is
hexed forge
for all we know if it shows proper locational data
this may give us a new and mo...
(I dont think that this will be the case on release)
acoustic osprey
(I dont think that this will be the case on release)
but the thing is then
why even use the filter then?
when you can VERY easily replicate it on any video editing software
it doesn't make anything easier
if anything, it makes it harder
hexed forge
but the thing is then
*why* even use the filter then?
Easy tool for people to record videos with.
Not everything is made for the lore people !!!
acoustic osprey
"now i have to recover the black box with new text that actually portray that it is 4am ... at GW_K15"
acoustic osprey
Easy tool for people to record videos with.
Not everything is made for the lor...
but it wouldn't really
the only benefit is that it looks cool
but then 40 people all make the same video in 40 different locations
all saying:
11am - 23 degrees - GW_T2 - etc
hexed forge
when you can VERY easily replicate it on any video editing software
Some people dont really understand some video editing softwares,
You know how I was when I was trying out Davincii, couldnt set up the T-Cam bar.
acoustic osprey
the only benefit is that it looks cool
but then 40 people all make the same vide...
this^
acoustic osprey
Some people dont really understand some video editing softwares,
You know how I ...
it is not really that hard
you just set up a single colour and crop it at the bottom of the screen
or if you're lazy, just get a black image and crop it
and if you're no good at editing, figuratively, why are you trying to make a lore-esque video?
acoustic osprey
https://tenor.com/view/i-stupid-gif-21806309
hexed forge
*and if you're no good at editing, figuratively, why are you trying to make a lo...
I try !!!
acoustic osprey
not directed at you!! (sorry)
i just feel like at this point
if it truly is just this:
but then 40 people all make the same video in 40 different locations
all saying:
11am - 23 degrees - GW_T2 - etc
then why would the devs bother with the filter?
hexed forge
the only benefit is that it looks cool
but then 40 people all make the same vide...
Again,
I am wishing for it to do the thing that you are saying.
I just really doubt it would be like that on release.
acoustic osprey
Again,
I am wishing for it to do the thing that you are saying.
I just really ...
i know
but i truly hope that is not the case
i know the devs half do things on release
but this is something that would really be terrible painful to come in as just a simple watermark that does not change
which just feels just way too lazy
unless it completely randomises all the 'data' each time you turn on the filter
which is better
but still ... for the sake of continuing and for people who WANT to make accurate-ish arg lore videos
hexed forge
https://tenor.com/view/time-will-tell-this-feels-like-one-of-those-time-will-tell-deals-gif-13223772
acoustic osprey
hexed forge
Anyways.
The 50 crates on a single beach right next to Docks. What caused it.
acoustic osprey
for all we know if it shows proper locational data
this may give us a new and mo...
back to this point
IF they do put the effort in
and GW_## is truly reflective of the official grid map
we may finally get a step closer to understanding what F5 could mean
which, if that is the case, I'd wager that it may be an ARCHIVE(7) fault then
because i can't really think of any other excuse of why GW_F5 isn't what it is supposed to be (H9 or something in H)
hexed forge
Archive (7)
The root of all our problems since April 1st 2024
hexed forge
But I guess we shall wait and see how it is on release. Maybe some of the info is shared in the next devblog.
acoustic osprey
did Don say how close / soon the replay filters may be
hexed forge
He didnt even start working on it yet.
He just announced that he was tasked with the job to "make it/plan it?"
yay
acoustic osprey
But I guess we shall wait and see how it is on release. Maybe some of the info i...
just need ... lore papers in game
i know it almost likely it won't be new papers
hexed forge
SoonTM
acoustic osprey
but
one step closer
one step closer ...
hexed forge
I HAVE HOPE THAT THERE ARE NEW PAPERS.
acoustic osprey
I HAVE HOPE THAT THERE ARE NEW PAPERS.
well, besides the new dino papers
hexed forge
Also did you see the Airfield comment? And he was looking at/zooming in at NW Ridge
acoustic osprey
interesting
hexed forge
Pretty good spot for an airfield I guess.
patent ginkgo
i believe its that big ole flattened, bare spot
acoustic osprey
oh the door into the top of the DTA is opened in the stream, nice
hexed forge
i believe its that big ole flattened, bare spot
Yep
acoustic osprey
can actually go into there now
hexed forge
oh the door into the top of the DTA is opened in the stream, nice
yay
hexed forge
oh lol
fast forge
i believe its that big ole flattened, bare spot
funnily enough, there's a patrol there with diet plants
hexed forge
(For now)
acoustic osprey
Might be a GUTS hub location.
looks like the same model as the one at volcano and docks as well
fast forge
Might be a GUTS hub location.
oh that? that's the other end of that one tunnel at the port, I'd put money on it
the one that's not a guts entrance
acoustic osprey
looks like the same building (the cornerish-looking) tunnel entrances at volcano and docks
fast forge
It's right around here, directly opposite that road and tunnel that head into the hill
hexed forge
looks like the same model as the one at volcano and docks as well
Specifically talking about the tower. There might be something "special" in between those three GUTS entrances.
hexed forge
oh that? that's the other end of that one tunnel at the port, I'd put money on i...
Mhm
acoustic osprey
Specifically talking about the tower. There might be something "special" in betw...
Pov it uses 5G !!!
lethal moat
my theorie is that the secret dino is allo..
hushed sun
https://tenor.com/view/cat-smacking-other-cat-cat-cat-smack-cat-swat-gif-1034781...
ouch
plain yoke
my theorie is that the secret dino is allo..
100% minmi
hexed forge
Pov it uses 5G !!!
fast forge
https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-the-isle-rex-the-isle-t-rex-t-rex-tyrannosaurus-...
oh hey I uploaded this
spark egret
my theorie is that the secret dino is allo..
look at the hand, its deeznutzosaurus
hexed forge
Pov it uses 5G !!!
My Ptera might turn into that child.
Ignore the FPS
acoustic osprey
My Ptera might turn into that child.
Ignore the FPS
no!!!
hexed forge
Rest in peace ptera
acoustic osprey
ahh, interesting to know the guts tunnel at docks is a mockup
very interesting
acoustic osprey
better look at it
hexed forge
oh
hexed forge
better look at it
Im betting thats where the first GUTS hub is.
acoustic osprey
i doubt so
i believe it more so being at a place where there would be a larger intake of transport
like at the docks
which would make sense as a hub-location
hexed forge
Ye.. yeah.... thats.. thats at the Docks..
acoustic osprey
Ye.. yeah.... thats.. thats at the Docks..
no
hexed forge
yes
acoustic osprey
it is on the opposite side
hexed forge
What.
acoustic osprey
and it may connect as a tunnel with the tunnel entrance
closer to the fence than the dock itself
acoustic osprey
What.
of a mountain
it would make more sense to have a hub at docks
not a good few minutes away through a mountain
hexed forge
Erm..........
The GUTS hubs are underground. So it would be inside the mountain like right there.
acoustic osprey
Erm..........
The GUTS hubs are underground. So it would be inside the mountai...
?
hexed forge
Theres 3 GUTS entrances leading into the supposed GUTS hub
median shuttle
Im betting thats where the first GUTS hub is.
I mean thats between former east plains and east docks right? so I think it's both a tunnel and guts entry
acoustic osprey
wouldn't it make more sense to have it through somewhere like here
hexed forge
What if its on both sides.
Two different ones.
One on the southern side managing things getting sent into the southern/western direction. And one in the north managing things going into the northern/western direction.
I can see a GUTS hub in both locations.
acoustic osprey
i doubt so
hexed forge
acoustic osprey
Theres 3 GUTS entrances leading into the supposed GUTS hub
i more so see this being just a tunnel
hexed forge
Mmmm
acoustic osprey
then either the actual GUTS tunnel at the main of the dock being a Hub
or
at the north at the Docks
being the GUTS Hub
seeing as the north side within docks has the same door
hexed forge
Why would there be a big radio tower with multiple satellites next to a simple tunnel?
I feel like it would be placed on the northern side.
The tower has to be there for something.
Just a feeling
acoustic osprey
Why would there be a big radio tower with multiple satellites next to a simple t...
potentially
hexed forge
I believe there will be two, on both sides, for better management.
meager junco
seeing as the north side within docks has the same door
Shirley spotted
acoustic osprey
I believe there will be two, on both sides, for better management.
i can imagine it, the one southward that has the two tunnels facing towards each other, could be this
would make sense
it is a tunnel
but has a system that takes you downward
but i doubt it'd be a Hub
hexed forge
We shall see
acoustic osprey
heh, something above it as well
unless that is the base of the tower not showing
serene hare
Daily dose of lore?
acoustic osprey
no...
serene hare
Awww
hexed forge
heh, something above it as well
Mmmmmm
Yeah I feel like there is something special, under that mountain.
"Special" as in something unique in the game that we never seen before.
serene hare
When does the isle evrima take place
hexed forge
We dont know yet.
patent ginkgo
Sometime past 1994
acoustic osprey
We have rough ideas
But no hard confirmed answer
patent ginkgo
Sometime past 1994
Likely past 1999
lethal moat
Sometime between the big bang and the heat death of the universe
How long do giant crabs live?
acoustic osprey
Perhaps between the year 1000 and 3000
Yeah
2172!
hexed forge
Sometime between the big bang and the heat death of the universe
Really good guess
Might be the most accurate guess
hexed forge
Yeah
2172!
yesterday
acoustic osprey
https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-whatever-lies-gif-3602502
you don't gotta!!
acoustic osprey
Sometime past 1994
the only problem is how valid is the roadmap within that lore regard
fast forge
i doubt so
I agree with cerato here, mostly because of this line in the introduction to the hub:
This is commonly found as a facility entrance checkpoint or much further within G.U.T.S. itself
If there's a guts hub, it would be at the docks I'd think
..... oh I just read the following conversation
hexed forge
Basically Isaac is saying that the Docks GUTS Hub would be on the north side, I think it would be on both sides. (Two Hubs)
fast forge
I agree with you, all of GUTS will probably be a big maze, and this is quite a large port
Isaac's point about the doors doesn't hold much weight with me because we know all of the building stuff is modular, and these hubs have all sorts of doors leading away
fast forge
How many underground entrances are there? There could be a hub at each one for all we know
(although I think the south tunnel just leads a road under the hills)
acoustic osprey
Basically Isaac is saying that the Docks GUTS Hub would be on the north side, I ...
I'm saying the Hub itself would be in Docks
rather than a few minutes away
fast forge
I'd think it's just inside the doors of the docks
or maybe at the end of that one tunnel that don said was a guts entrance
acoustic osprey
the practicality of having you get through a whole tunnel system a few minutes away, for me, doesn't work well as a "Hub"
just feels like a bottleneck you wouldn't really want for a dockyard
hexed forge
I'm saying the Hub itself would be *in* Docks
Why wouldnt this count as "In" the docks.
Its basically the same when comparing to this area. If you count this as "in" the docks.
acoustic osprey
Why wouldnt this count as "In" the docks.
because it is a whole drive away from the main section of docks
while going through a mountain that has a raised altitude
fast forge
The dockyard itself has docking, storage, office buildings for receiving paperwork, fuel for ships, etc
The guts hub would be a logistics and supply center, managing supplies coming to the docks from the rest of the island, and coordinating the destination of cargo that comes in on ships
acoustic osprey
The dockyard itself has docking, storage, office buildings for receiving paperwo...
yeah
glad we got the confirm it was a mixture of administration aspects, in lore, and a facility entrance checkpoint
fast forge
And it's under the mountain, altitude doesn't matter
acoustic osprey
And it's under the mountain, altitude doesn't matter
it does though
especially since you'd be logging heavy cargo
stress on vehicles
and also i imagine GUTS being generally under the map
and not being overly fluid, going up and down
fast forge
And I don't think it's physically far from the docks, maybe a dozen meters at most
acoustic osprey
unless you are actually at a facility
acoustic osprey
And I don't think it's physically far from the docks, maybe a dozen meters at mo...
it is tucked away
hexed forge
because it is a whole drive away from the main section of docks
while going thro...
Erm
fast forge
Like I think this guts hub is up against the dock, but underground
It's at the entrance
acoustic osprey
and here too
this section being level with the whole dock
hexed forge
Yeah, both could work.
acoustic osprey
the other section to the right, in your image, contains a climb
acoustic osprey
Yeah, *both* could work.
no this one would not work for me
hexed forge
this section being level with the whole dock
This works too
acoustic osprey
This works too
hexed forge
https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/401480573471948821/1304634066687...
You are showing a pic of the other one !!
acoustic osprey
your image was too small
hexed forge
no this one would not work for me
I could see it working.
Could there be different levels of the GUTS hub?
acoustic osprey
but yes that one also works
acoustic osprey
I could see it working.
Could there be different levels of the GUTS hub?
especially since you'd be logging heavy cargo
stress on vehicles
and also i imagine GUTS being generally under the map
and not being overly fluid, going up and down
this is what i say about such
fast forge
because it is a whole drive away from the main section of docks
while going thro...
All of these locations are quite close to the docks, I don't understand what you mean here
hexed forge
> especially since you'd be logging heavy cargo
> stress on vehicles
> and also ...
Mmmmm
acoustic osprey
All of these locations are quite close to the docks, I don't understand what you...
i don't agree with the one this one
fast forge
i don't agree with the one this one
yeah I think that's just a tunnel for the road
acoustic osprey
especially since that one has the path, currently in-game, that basically has a path that leads to the other tunnel from Dondi stream
hexed forge
Hold on, I will just check it ingame rq.
Specifically how steep the slope is.
acoustic osprey
practically seeing it, it would not make sense for GUTS to have a lot of alt. changes
unless the actual facility itself needed such due to however the facility is built
but generally, that one tunnel, I doubt would be the HUB itself
if anything
but it could connect somehow
potentially with elevator shaft
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OsGUKn--6X0 POV isle elevator
acoustic osprey
Honestly this is not that steep.
that is a steep incline for a truck
but also show inside the map of the path inside the tunnel
hexed forge
Alright yeah this is steep. But I think it changed on Don's version. Might be wrong tho.
acoustic osprey
the alt the tunnel from Don looks pretty high
wait a minute
where was my other screenshot
#isle-lore-theories message
there you go
hexed forge
The road is supposed to come out here, so its not even coming out on the right side.
hexed forge
heh, something above it as well
This is coming out into the Southwestern side
acoustic osprey
with that
it feels like a normal tunnel, honestly
acoustic osprey
So yeah, the road currently in the game isnt really suitable evidence. Imo
fair, but the tunnel itself just doesn't feel right to be a HUB for GUTS
hub for overworld entrance? Sure
but not really guts if you know what i mean
hexed forge
Mmmmmm
I think I get what you mean now.
However I still think that these two lead into a GUTS hub. 
But yeah, I agree, the third tunnel on the south side definitely seems like its just a tunnel. And not really connected to a GUTS hub.
acoustic osprey
However I still think that these two lead into a GUTS hub. <:TI_delete_this:6309...
oh yes, potentially
acoustic osprey
But yeah, I agree, the third tunnel on the south side definitely seems like its ...
i can believe there being an elevator shaft or akin though connected to such
hexed forge
Possibly
acoustic osprey
cannot wait for when GUTS tunnel entrances look like this though
lethal moat
Employee bus stop
fast forge
oh I didn't notice the elevator doors
hexed forge
Oh wow, SAME.
Just noticed those.
hexed forge
Employee bus stop
Next stop: Tartarus
fast forge
at a glance I thought it was just simple single doorway
lethal moat
Next stop: Tartarus
acoustic osprey
^
acoustic osprey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P99AiAYc0h0
(if there is NO elevator music, this will be my head canon music)
hexed forge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P99AiAYc0h0
knotty locust
Oh wow, SAME.
Just noticed those.
taking the elevator alongside a sub adult albertosaurus
hexed forge
taking the elevator alongside a sub adult albertosaurus
(It cannot fit)
acoustic osprey
https://tenor.com/view/lift-elevator-strairs-surprise-prank-gif-8115762
canon GUTS
lethal moat
I hope the elevator doesn't work and you have to scale an empty shaft while being hunted by a herrera
fast forge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P99AiAYc0h0
Me:
"Oh I don't remember this"
clicks video
recognizes it within 2 seconds
acoustic osprey
Me:
"Oh I don't remember this"
*clicks video*
*recognizes it within 2 seconds*
perfect ha
hexed forge
I hope the elevator doesn't work and you have to scale an empty shaft while bein...
Only to find a hypsi up at the top ready to spit at you.
acoustic osprey
I was just about to say something like that lol
hexed forge
lol
acoustic osprey
playing around with a negative feeling UI
want to actually get ROUND to doing the UI part of it
basically using this as an inspiration
want to make it a hybrid of an actual person using it (perhaps a profile) while it also feeling like a player in a video game would use it
acoustic osprey
food for thought
717
now technically that TCAM vid has 4 digits
instead of two
but
still, something to think about
hexed forge
Mmmmm
acoustic osprey
yeah
might be a clue
but
honestly
what even IS 717 lol
at least we can use better describe what GW_H4 is for example
but 717... lol
acoustic osprey
Could be the names of enclosure sectors.
yes but it truly could mean many things honestly
a lot less than GW_##, for example
hexed forge
Will make sense when the fences are more finalized ig
acoustic osprey
unless they don't
hexed forge
acoustic osprey
https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-101317752192...
i mean look at f5...
what if there is no meaning we can decipher 😊
has to be something soo incredibly complex
hexed forge
what if there is no meaning we can decipher 😊
has to be something soo incredib...
GW_F5 could just be a corrupted thing caused by archive (7) then
Just like you said
acoustic osprey
but i also said it doesn't really make sense (in my video) for a corruption like that to occur to relay the wrong locational data
seeing as it doesn't really show anything else wrong in the TCAM bar
hexed forge
Mmmmm
acoustic osprey
User Inquiry: Who else is here?
106,638 profiles and Apollo Engineering staff.
mmmm
I do wonder if we'll have it so we are part of the games lore
like in legacy (as mentioned above)
just more food for thought
i'd like to imagine so
but, knowing Don's happy relation to the community
probably not anymore
if anything, maybe if you put the effort in ||or by complete mistake|| and do something like Khorne
hexed forge
> User Inquiry: Who else is here?
> 106,638 profiles and Apollo Engineering staf...
3 million profiles
acoustic osprey
3 million profiles
roughly 1.2 million if rn
hexed forge
Oh, I thought it was around 3 million
acoustic osprey
nah
at least, the predicted sales amount would be roughly 1.2 mil right now
is that, though, a bit too much for AE?
it IS a lot more than in 2018, of course lol
hexed forge
i'd like to imagine so
but, knowing Don's *happy* relation to the community <:TI...
Happy...
hexed forge
Lol
acoustic osprey
but yeah
just something i was thinking about
hexed forge
at least, the predicted sales amount would be roughly 1.2 mil right now
You could like, half it, and say 600k active employees/profiles and 600k on retirement/standby
acoustic osprey
mostly because i've started to rewatch some of meatylocks videos and saw the old user inquiries mentioned
crazy to think that was back when it was all new
"we're still curious on what CCH means"
hexed forge
I don't even know what CCH is ahhhhh
acoustic osprey
CARNAGE COMES HOME, MeatyLock, ITS CARNAGE COMES HOME
acoustic osprey
*I don't even know what CCH is ahhhhh*
glorified PC reference
basically a year early before Hope. came out
if you knew what it meant (CCH) you knew what was planned
which ... of course, never happened lol
acoustic osprey
You could like, half it, and say 600k active employees/profiles and 600k on reti...
ah yeah, something like that would work
hexed forge
Still wonder why PCE and The Isle decided to separate. Probably because they had very different views on how the story should be I assume.
acoustic osprey
but i'd still imagine all users who play the game would still be active profiles to be a bit more engaging for people
imo
unless they can see how many people haven't played since "X" year
acoustic osprey
Still wonder why PCE and The Isle decided to separate. Probably because they had...
likely due to Dinosauriac wanting to just work on PCE
hexed forge
Ah
acoustic osprey
he basically left mid/late 2020
i feel like Dondi was a bit heartbroke and likely felt like it would be better to not go down the PC x Isle route afterwards
seeing as he would've put a lot of effort into it prior — especially seeing as he worked on PC back in its early days
hexed forge
but i'd still imagine all users who play the game would still be active profiles...
Would be fun if you can see the amount of active profiles/AE employees on the main menu. Aka current online players. Similar to how HD2 does it.
acoustic osprey
Would be fun if you can see the amount of active profiles/AE employees on the ma...
neat little lore-ish idea
hexed forge
Yahoo
Current Active Profiles = Current players online
Profiles on standby = Number of "unique" monthly players that aren't currently online.
Profiles on retirement/break = players who haven't played in awhile
Or just don't show the "retired" amount of players
hexed forge
Mhm
acoustic osprey
if the devs can see the amount of players who haven't played in years
probably have it as 'stasis' or something alike
rarther than retirement
hexed forge
Yep
acoustic osprey
bio-stasis!!
fast forge
bio-stasis!!
this got me wondering about the science of keeping animals in big tanks
It's a high sci-fi concept that isn't really seen in the real world
In real life tissue samples might be stored in liquid or frozen, but you're night really looking at a big animal like Ben being "grown in a vat"
Real animals need to move around, interact with the world, experience new sensations and smells
Unlike a tissue sample, most animals have a mind
But if we bring EIP's into the equation, it seems a bit more possible
If you have an animal essentially lobotomized from birth, grown from a blastula without that part of the brain, maybe they could be grown in a vat?
It would have all the autonomic parts of the brain responsible for things like balance, heartbeat, and breathing
But they would lack any consciousness until they got an EIP
Or maybe they do have that part of the brain, but it's function is turned off somehow (a common concept in genetics)
It would turn on if an EIP is uploaded
I dunno, just some thoughts
acoustic osprey
yeah
definitely has to exist some 'clarks third laws' here of course, just due to the nature of sci-fi
but, at least, it seems like Don still wants to make it seem 'feasible' (even if physically impossible — basically, to the point of it 'making sense', just the actual physicality of doing it in real life is still impossible)
EIPs do feel like an interesting bridge for such definitely
as you brought up
yeah, even if there are biologically embedded characteristics you have 'in your dna'
you still need, as any creature, to learn, grow and move to properly understand how to survive properly
but to that point though
would that mean all animals are EIPs?
IF we want to have it so we have every actual owner of The Isle are 'EIPs' / profiles
Then it may have to be so
one can also comment about the degradation of a profiles human mind — in return (evolved into) of a more animalistic mind; a mind made to survive, not be all humanly social
could be a sort of feudal system as well?
where the main general population of profiles may not be dubbed important — being how your typical feudal system is structured
therefore their profile degradation may be more severe, and therefore they are easily far more seen like cattle
the general flock
the generally studied without any anomalous behaviours
where in contrast
you could have more 'higher level profiles' (depends on how we treat profiles though — if profiles are something like a paid social experiment? Rather than 'i am forfeiting my normal human life, like an astronaut' i am paying for a better life. In this case i am a rich man, so i get the best treatment) which may be something akin to AUGUSTUS and SHIRLEY
but
Nothing really perturbing occurs from wild-born animals. It's all the lab things that go sideways and get invested in for interesting results
may it be a case of AE subtextual aspects?
or is it simply that, no, not all creatures = profiles
where it may be, more likely, that profiles are more likely to be within SYNTHs
i imagine it would be far easier, of course, to put a human mind into something made in a lab than something in the wild — of course
hexed forge
Praying for a video with lore by the end of the year. 🙏
acoustic osprey
Praying for a video with lore by the end of the year. 🙏
i need to finish my very last uni essay by tonight
After such
GIVE THE LORE
(i also will finally be making more lore videos ... hopefully)
hexed forge
i need to finish my very last uni essay by tonight
After such
GIVE THE LORE
(i ...
Get to that essay immediately
Also you still need to make that AUGUSTUS analysis and Errant Analysis !!
acoustic osprey
Also you still need to make that AUGUSTUS analysis and Errant Analysis !!
100%
hopefully those videos don't actually forget to ... analysis what else happens
LIKE FORGETTING ABOUT SAYING WHAT INJECTIONS ARE
lol
hexed forge
Some interesting topics for the AUGUSTUS analysis would be...
-Is that AUGUSTUS in the Live footage?
-Tartarus relocation and lineage displacement
-The actual incident !!! (Dont repeat the same mistake with the dibble video )
acoustic osprey
Some interesting topics for the AUGUSTUS analysis would be...
-Is that AUGUSTUS...
also h4....
hexed forge
LIKE FORGETTING ABOUT SAYING WHAT INJECTIONS ARE
lol
Talked about everything except THE ACTUAL DAMN FOCUS OF THE VIDEO !!!
hexed forge
also h4....
Yeaaaa
And also.. hmm... Designations.
TYR.12-S.002
HRS.12-S.174
Etc
acoustic osprey
wah oh
acoustic osprey
quite so!
maybe not LARGE amount of theory work
but definitely looking over it — maybe i could remake the AUGUSTUS UI and make it so my video is part of the UI lol
acoustic osprey
am curious if we'll see the more proper weathered buildings like this
or it'll be on the same level we have now
or a mix between
also i need this building lol
on the other hand
if we got thickly weathered
we wouldn't really get any of this
unless there can be a REAL contrast between underground and overworld building states
it would make more sense to 'fix the buildings' if they were PROPERLY weathered
than all being brand new, basically
hexed forge
am curious if we'll see the more proper weathered buildings like this
or it'll b...
I feel like this concept was made when the games lore and design wasn't really "set in stone" yet. So this might be abandoned, that kind of design. But, I could see buildings like that being on AE facilities that aren't as advanced as other facilities such as Gateway. Aka no GUTS, monorail, etc.
For example, Spiro.
New lore uncovered.
Giant John Cake buried under the map
acoustic osprey
I feel like this concept was made when the games lore and design wasn't really "...
guts was a thing in Spiro...
(technically the original guts was an underground cave system in Spiro, under Spire)
also saying ... 2021 was roughly a time when lore wasn't set in stone ... is so very insulting on the many many hours i spent here on this channel
sharp agate
i didn't realize i was on the lore chamnel
acoustic osprey
i didn't realize i was on the lore chamnel
sharp agate
um
acoustic osprey
also saying ... 2021 was roughly a time when lore wasn't set in stone ... is so ...
basically only a year after ERRANT-291 was released
sharp agate
uhhhhhhhhhhh blue delicious gatorade
acoustic osprey
uhhhhhhhhhhh blue delicious gatorade
patent ginkgo
uhhhhhhhhhhh blue delicious gatorade
patent ginkgo
sharp agate
like "this event happened here or here"
acoustic osprey
do spiro and velada exist on the same timeline
patent ginkgo
For all we know spiro is still fully scrapped from lore
acoustic osprey
For all we know spiro is still fully scrapped from lore
then we also have dondi saying...
sharp agate
is velada retconned
acoustic osprey
Velada DOES NOT exist
sharp agate
kkkkkkk
acoustic osprey
!!
sharp agate
so gateway is what velada was
acoustic osprey
yes
sharp agate
kk gotcha
acoustic osprey
yay! !
patent ginkgo
Boy do I love piecing together a puzzle that might have several pieces that are fully rotted away but also might be regrown
patent ginkgo
can spiro and gateway coexist in the lore
They could
acoustic osprey
but yeah
there is a potential that Spiro "LORE" is just fully canned
but Spiro existing during when Gateway existing doesn't really hurt anything
so it is possible