isle-lore-theories

[regal sundial]

Until we get them saying "Yeah this is more or less the intended final state for the time being"

[acoustic osprey]

there is clear intentions brought into Gateway at the moment
but may they be changed? Sure

that has been the state of lore since 2019

[regal sundial]

We cannot really start making inferences on timeline stuff, or the relevence of structures and topography on the map beside the broadest of strokes

[lethal moat]

94-99

[acoustic osprey]

We can try and make references for a broader timeline
but it'd be hard for using Gateway as a reference

[acoustic osprey]

(things such as these help though)

direct textual material from something not directly on Gateway/Evrima

[hexed forge]

The software that was is/was being used in AUGUSTUS, Dibble, and Roadmap video(Not lore tho), are from the 90s... I think thats the only hint we got?

[acoustic osprey]

but even then
we still know basically only 1% of isle's lore

to make a proper rough timeline would be pretty impossible

besides like
very very very generally broad things

like

AE -> Botany
Food
Dinosaur

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

but then
we also have tech which is also primarily used in the 00s and 10s
like the flatscreen TVs - which were late 90s and got big in the 00s

[regal sundial]

The software being from the 90s tells us AE was active doing things in the 90s, perhaps the peak of activity, but that's it

[acoustic osprey]

but yeah
we have tiny pinpoint suggestions on when they could take place
over a potentially very long timeline

sadly, every time there's a proper date mentioned somewhere
either it's very obsurce, little informaton OR [REDACTED]

[regal sundial]

You can also guess it hasn't been centuries into the future or a lot of stuff would probably be decayed to the point where they wouldn't even be representing it on the map with placeholders in the way they are.

[acoustic osprey]

2172.....

[regal sundial]

💀

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/amadeus-mozart-is-dead-wake-up-shake-gif-16686328

[hexed forge]

2172..

[hexed forge]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[regal sundial]

Errant doc I think has 12/7 written on it but that doesn't help because no year

[acoustic osprey]

2172

[regal sundial]

wh

Why 2172

[chrome acorn]

The papers

[acoustic osprey]

three dates
same year (2172)

12/9/2172
12/8/2172
12/7/2172

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-gif-27114594

[chrome acorn]

Bright side the sci fi make it dead gun is prob gon have a cool design

[regal sundial]

I don't remember seeing a year tho

[regal sundial]

Got to have something to kill those hypers that break out

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1040372679779299349/image.png?ex=66e20710&is=66e0b590&hm=abb1452cfa97ad40e71e592346cc6f25ea8371775591dcbed2ecc9c1000bc9ba&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1040389735136378951/image.png?ex=66e216f2&is=66e0c572&hm=efab942b9ec2792b6ec27ac3aac9a21c9a95fa3e1b26abb3ed29a29c06bbdce8&

[lethal moat]

Hyper cannon

[hexed forge]

Hyper gun!!

[hexed forge]

Is it Cannon or Gun?

[regal sundial]

Yes

[regal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/emoji-emoji-disintegrating-emoji-disappearing-meme-21st-century-gif-24891417

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-maybe-possibly-might-be-perhaps-gif-15643771

[regal sundial]

Why are they using 90s computers then.. Literally worse than the irl government

PCs 150 years out of date

[hexed forge]

Ehm

Because it was the 90s at that time..

[lethal moat]

Could be a stand in for now

[hexed forge]

Oh the 2172

2172 is probably just some random numbers, placeholder date

[acoustic osprey]

yeah....

it's likely the year was a placeholder

but the actual three days it takes over as 'canon' / story

[regal sundial]

.50 cal but instead of incendiary or explosive.. anti-matter grain

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-kitty-komaru-cat-explosion-cat-cat-explosion-gif-4940756872467221811

[regal sundial]

I mean like

It is the final end point really to wanting to destroy something

Obliteration

https://tenor.com/view/dr-manhattan-gif-18899941

[lethal moat]

Hypsi

[regal sundial]

Who up getting annihilated

https://tenor.com/view/cruelty-squad-gif-21708952

[lethal moat]

Literally me

[fickle spoke]

where did you find that trex

[patent ginkgo]

well thats not exactly a lore theory

[subtle heath]

Yes it is

[fickle spoke]

it is it shows that dinos ate mcdonalds

[fast forge]

what game is this from? I forget

[regal sundial]

Cruelty Squad I believe

[fast forge]

[hexed forge]

Predictions on what the next lore video might be?

In my opinion, it probably would be related to Shirley/Dean. I feel like the only reason we got some Shirley/Dean lore a couple weeks ago is because Don was working on a video that has them in it.

[lethal moat]

I'll take pretty much anything

Need to be dripfed more lore

[hexed forge]

Fair enough

[muted reef]

How is cerato the one guy who's PFP I instantly get used to it every time it changes

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/plastic-surgery-beauty-medicine-aging-medical-doctor-gif-12025987

[acoustic osprey]

Exactly lol

I have been on the slow drip feed ICU for too long lol

[fast forge]

something for halloween, right? I've heard halloween and april fool's always get something

[muted reef]

April fools we got something right

I forgot which one it was

[hexed forge]

Yes

[hexed forge]

Dibble lore video and Living roadmap joke

[fast forge]

Dibble lore video on my birthday

April - October is a good schedule too, six months apart

[hexed forge]

yep

[muted reef]

Lawr

[patent ginkgo]

The lore posting begins

[hexed forge]

Nothing much to discuss recently

[patent ginkgo]

True

[muted reef]

The holy lore begins

[hexed forge]

I suppose we could predict whats the next "big" human structure coming to gateway after these Docks.

We know Uga is fully going to start on GUTS after these Docks sooooo

Personally, I just need some fences

[fast forge]

Now that they've made the assets for the docks, they can play with those and create other docks

So someone else can work on that and Uga focuses on new assets

[acoustic osprey]

Oh yeah
Basically everything Vis makes is purposefully built as a modular system

Helps Jace and modders a lot

[lethal moat]

What if ERRANT 291 takes place after we play the game

[bold crater]

What if ERRANT 291 represents a player discovering things they shouldn't have huehue I doubt it but a funny thought

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[low scarab]

no I wanna find lore documents about errant in game 😦

[fast forge]

seems a little pointless

[lethal moat]

Could give us a roadmap of things to work towards, or at least part of one

Objective: Disable Olympus Transmitter

[fast forge]

we never got these

[hexed forge]

Sadly Don said that Errant 291 is probably just going to be a onetime thing iirc

[lethal moat]

What if gen 2 are able to dissect things

That’d be cool

[hexed forge]

But what would the purpose be

[lethal moat]

Collect tracking chips like dog tags

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[low scarab]

yea thats true I was really hoping that meant we were going to see more lore content on the yt channel

[native tinsel]

i think the authors want to recreate the history of our earth. Now they allow us to use dinosaurs. later humans will be available and we can use dinosaurs as a weapon or fight against dinosaurs and at the same time fight with other humans to conquer new territories.

[acoustic osprey]

yes and no
not specifically about "ERRANT-291"

more so that you'll see characters come up in a piece of document/footage/video/etc
and they'll only, almost always, only come up once

but
these events / themes / points in time may help up collect the pieces and pin point certain periods of time

[hexed forge]

Errant-291 is a specific character no?

It's both an incident name and a codename for a character.

[acoustic osprey]

more so that you'll see characters come up in a piece of document/footage/video/etc
and they'll only, almost always, only come up once

[hexed forge]

Ye

[acoustic osprey]

Don didn't say "ERRANT-291"
he inferred a majority of characters will be like such

[hexed forge]

Ah

Rest in peace AUGUSTUS

[acoustic osprey]

which infers ERRANT-291 will likely never see the light of day again

but

these events / themes / points in time may help up collect the pieces and pin point certain periods of time

[hexed forge]

Mhm

The time part is interesting

Would be funny if the year 2172 is actually canon..

[acoustic osprey]

i ... very much doubt

[hexed forge]

Just a funny thought...

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-saul-goodman-cinnabon-gene-takovic-breaking-bad-gif-18604515

[fast forge]

So just microbes for the first 80% of the time?

[acoustic osprey]

no
the clashing and smashing of Earth in beginning of the solar system !!!

[fast forge]

see I just assumed they meant the history of life on earth

[hexed forge]

Yay

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[fast forge]

Is that Better Call Saul? I've never seen it but I otherwise really like Bob Odenkirk

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[fast forge]

oh I just realized his last name means "Odin Church"

[hexed forge]

If 2172 becomes Canon I suggest you all to get a minmi therapist

[fast forge]

I kinda like the idea that all of these facilities and this island have just kinda been continuing for 170 years in this state, slowly degrading

[acoustic osprey]

2172 becoming canon would be trauma-inducing

[fast forge]

why?

[acoustic osprey]

if there was nothing like ERRANT-291, sure

unless the islands just 'started' to get back online/actively used again

[fast forge]

wdym? I assumed 291 took place in the 90's or 00's

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/old-salieri-amadeus-you-flatter-gif-20384746

[hexed forge]

So possibly

Prior to "incident" > "incident" > sometime passes for AE to get back on their feet > Errant takes place after AE comes back in 2172?

[fast forge]

when AE was in charge of these islands

[hexed forge]

It takes place in 2172

[acoustic osprey]

^

[hexed forge]

According to the dates

[fast forge]

oh duh 2172 is in 291 doc, I'm silly

[fast forge]

I bet dryo tastes like chicken

[hexed forge]

It may be a possibility, who knows

[broken sable]

The secret is that AI is responsible for everything, while everyone blames the dinosaurs! Jus lik weal lif!

(I only understand the Replicator is related to AI)

[acoustic osprey]

Or is it

[broken sable]

Vsauce theme starts playing

[rapid bay]

https://tenor.com/view/googas-wet-wet-cat-dead-chat-dead-chat-xd-gif-20820186

[lethal moat]

Discuss

[robust ether]

common deino L

[low scarab]

Having access to water could it have reached the mainland

[lethal moat]

Depends on why it would want to, it likely only has enough food in the islands or in deep ocean

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-ragnarok-odin-no-kratos-god-of-war-gif-27131911

[lethal moat]

Wonder if there are any other creatures created as a result of strain research

[meager junco]

I mean if islandwalkers do return, which I doubt, they probably would be some sort of strain research, at least hyper

[fast forge]

I think more strains would be cool

Bit also just keeping the 'Unholy Trinity' has a certain aesthetic

[lethal moat]

Neuro’s derivative could be a translator, something that exists exclusively to communicate

[elfin pivot]

o

[torn tree]

What in the world can dig that deep into concrete?

[fast forge]

our best current theory is shaped explosives

[torn tree]

that makes sense

[hexed forge]

If the hyper fences name isn't actually "hyper" than our theories could be ruined and the bigger parts of the destroyed fences could be just strains or the Matriarch

Well, where the hell did the term "Hyper fence" even come from?

[lethal moat]

I’m open to being surprised, but yeah, that’s my assumption

[fast forge]

Pretty sure it was a fan term, and Don liked it so he uses it too

[hexed forge]

I see

[median shuttle]

brand new lore theory, hot out the oven!

"Tammy and the TRex" is canon to the isle lore and paul walker in that movie is made into an EIP

[hexed forge]

I am confused

[median shuttle]

watch the cinematic masterpiece that is tammy and the trex and you'll understand

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[median shuttle]

tl;dr human brain in trex

im shiposting

but it makes sense if you really (dont) think about it

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-cannon-gif-4170817779665105455

[lethal moat]

Wrong channel

[acoustic osprey]

(just nothing existing atm, unless there were several - but that would mean a larger diameter)

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/heat-ammo-heat-anti-tank-rocket-anti-tank-high-explosive-anti-tank-gif-27709061

[acoustic osprey]

they just don't destroy concrete that thick

[lethal moat]

Not that type, but it also could be something else

[acoustic osprey]

it just can't really be a modern explosive besides a shaped charge

and even then
the diameter should still be larger than the penetration/crater depth

[lethal moat]

A bunch of smaller explosives

[acoustic osprey]

so if it's an explosive
we just don't know the whole context

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
this still has to comply

[lethal moat]

Repeated explosions wouldn't need to be shape charges

[acoustic osprey]

not just referring to shaped charges

and if they're doing several
it just sounds really weird that they did it successfully

[lethal moat]

Yep

Totally could be something else

[acoustic osprey]

plus the internal damage inside the crater is a bit weird for several explosives
being that the barbed wires are perfectly straight

[lethal moat]

That could be unrelated to the smaller holes

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[torn tree]

Hyperedocrins still a thing on ervima? (Forgive my english btw, translator sucks)

[lethal moat]

Yes

[zenith frigate]

doesnt feel like a hyper could dig through concrete like that

[lethal moat]

Not the small ones, I agree

[torn tree]

Is there a stegosaurus-sized hyperedocrin capable of doing that? What kind of military operations were on that island after it was abandoned?

[zenith frigate]

a big one would knock down the fence or at least leave a bigger hole

[lethal moat]

Don't think there is one, and as far as we know, there isn't really military stuff yet in lore

[torn tree]

so all the destruction of fences was done during the evacuation of the island?

[lethal moat]

Unknown

[acoustic osprey]

[REDACTED]

(yeah we don't really know)

is it related to what happened with TOMB?
is it related to other companies? - hence why Gen1s?

[torn tree]

Why the lore of this game is so mysterious 😭

[lethal moat]

It's not finished yet

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/vsauce-evil-mastermind-vsauce-evil-mastermind-gif-27579269

mostly because what we know is given through drip-feeding

[acoustic osprey]

(being the game itself)

therefore, their priorities on putting lore in-game is pretty low

[fast forge]

well we also know Don is still developing some of the lore

[acoustic osprey]

besides like general worldbuilding subtextual design

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[acoustic osprey]

I'd say more so that he's making the textual aspects of the lore that, more or less, is 'finished' (just in his mind / notes)

[fast forge]

yeah he seems to have much of the big picture planned, just fleshing it out

[acoustic osprey]

which is definitely a hard part

translating your ideas / your 'timeline' is painful
and Don has commented about it - it definitely takes time

what should I write?
how should I write it?
What questions should I bring to the table? Will i bring them?
Should I answer questions (older questions)
What characters do I bring?
Where is this on the timeline?
Will this contrast anything i've made before?
How will this thing (if it's more dynamic/interactive like a video) begin and end?
What should be "understood/taken out" once a viewer watches/reads this?

and if anything
being that Don is, more or less, a perfectionist for his world - to an extent, he enjoys and 'loves' his 'story'

he's definitely a 'gardener'
as GRRM talks about - in terms of the two sides of writers

[lethal moat]

I imagine the very base idea of the game hasn't changed a ton since legacy

[acoustic osprey]

I can imagine such

especially later stage legacy

[torn tree]

Moving on to another topic, just a quick question, is it really confirmed that primal carnage is linked to the isle? since both have Phoenix international as a genetic company

[lethal moat]

Not anymore

[torn tree]

wdym?

[lethal moat]

Used to be in legacy, but that's scrapped in Evrima

[acoustic osprey]

gone

Don wants to create his own IP that's not connected to anything else

[torn tree]

Ah

[acoustic osprey]

it was on and off between 2018-2021 about if PC/PCE was still connected
but yeah.

No longer together

[torn tree]

understood

Where can I update myself on the game's lore? about everything official we have about ervima so far?

since this was changed in 2021 so I'm pretty out of date

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit
We also have a lore server and a podcast if you're interested

[torn tree]

Thank you! 🫂 i wanna join in the discord

[lethal moat]

I'll DM you

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-lisa-join-us-gif-13066208

[hexed forge]

I really want to start a lore discussion but I literally cant think of anything that we haven't really discussed recently....

[zenith frigate]

dinosaurs

or grass

[hexed forge]

grass is grass.

[acoustic osprey]

just look at something at the channel, sent here in pinned messages or something topical on the lore document
that's how I usually go on on my 1000 word spiels on lore that no one replies to

but before you send anything
you gotta think

[lethal moat]

I usually look through old dev quotes

[acoustic osprey]

what do we already know?
AND
can i/how can i look at this in a new lens?

[acoustic osprey]

fair

if you do go on a spiel
I won't be able to engage
I need to finish an ethnography

[hexed forge]

Give me a minute

So,

I believe that Don is saying that Gen2 can count as human, and that the human in the dibble video is a gen2. In my opinion.

Simplfied version on what Im trying to say,

-Gen2 = Human
-Human in Dibble video = Gen2

[lethal moat]

I'm not going to get into what I count as human, but they can both get the job done

[hexed forge]

Gen2 would be better for field operations on Gateway tbh, you could always just replace the body and move the EIP into the other body.

[lethal moat]

mhm

[hexed forge]

However I still believe that Don is trying to say that Gen2 can count as human in that quote imo.

[lethal moat]

We disagree on what counts as human

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-dont-agree-accept-it-but-gif-19918820

[fast forge]

Or at least leaving open the possibility that some number of AE employees couldhave Gen 2 bodies
He doesn't actually mention the "human" part of the question, but by not addressing that part it kind of implies it's accurate

[lethal moat]

What makes hazmat suits necessary

[fast forge]

do hazmat suits have lead shielding? if so it could protect them in those dangerous radio areas

[hexed forge]

mhm

[hexed forge]

Some yes iirc

[fast forge]

I imagine biosafety suits are different from radiation suits

so really just depends for what the suit is marketed

[lethal moat]

Is it military anti-rad or military virology lab suit

[fast forge]

neither have to be military, there are companies that use radiation or biohazards and need these products
Often the companies that sell this stuff to other companies are also selling it to the government

[lethal moat]

Military tends to make cost efficient things that work, which is where I reached for with the comparison

Or at least, comission things like that from others

[fast forge]

The military also loves to deal with private companies
y'know the whole military industrial complex thing that we got goin' on right now

[lethal moat]

It looks closer to a thermal protection suit and a virology suit than to prevent radiation

[chrome acorn]

the military usually goes for the least expensive thing that works

[fast forge]

I don't know if the military is more budget-conscious than private companies
The US military budget is the largest in the world several times over
And companies have things like shareholders who want to spend as little as possible

[lethal moat]

It's completely ensealed, radiation suits tend to use filters and eye protection and hoods, rather than complete isolation

[fast forge]

But also soldiers tend to be pretty frugal, so idk

Yes, you would want a complete barrier for biosafety, while with radiation you just need layered protection between you and the radio source

[lethal moat]

Exactly

Infectious neuro goo, or attempting to protect the assets from any form of contaminent

[chrome acorn]

The US military will absolute ball out on their budget for things like jets and attack helos and warships and guided munitions but stuff like troop transport or equipment for infantry is usually the least expensive option they deemed fit

[fast forge]

that makes sense

[chrome acorn]

With exceptions for special forces of course

They get nice stuff

[lethal moat]

Could be that it's to protect the world from the humanoid, rather than the other way around

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/another-one-bites-the-dust-queen-dance-dancing-gif-8171986

[neat gorge]

what if this is all just a simulation

[snow jasper]

then whats the point and wheres the fun?

[rigid coral]

what is fun

[lethal moat]

The friends we made along the way

[zenith frigate]

throwing bricks at unsuspecting victims

[lethal moat]

You guys think this was talking about zombie tisso? https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1167557586699178054/1224447030504456222/image0.jpg?ex=66e5ea29&is=66e498a9&hm=63e9d9fd295948faeca3fc15874398aecd1474833e1bea3dd17693b030055962&

It was that bug where skeletons did the idle animation

[fast forge]

that does sound like zombie tisso

[low scarab]

my first though goes to a zombie virus or seasonal event I thought they said something about it back when they released that halloweeen video

[hexed forge]

Maybe

[robust ether]

i want this so bad

[low scarab]

Again disease is another idea for filling the gameplay loop…

Bonus points for zombie virus

[robust ether]

eldering save us 🙏

[hexed forge]

Diseases would be fun

[fast forge]

I generally don't like zombie viruses as a concept, because that's not how viruses work

The Last of Us was cool because it used cordyceps fungi for zombies

[robust ether]

as long as it'd be the players fault and not something that happens super easily I'd agree

[fast forge]

I'm fairly convinced tissos are the result of research into donor tissues and organs from different animals

If the host body rejects the donor tissue, that tissue necrotizes

[robust ether]

I've always coped by assuming that in in-universe using the term "virus" is just a mega oversimplification for layman or whatever

[fast forge]

it just seems like a lazy cliche to me

EVERYONE has done a zombie virus now

And the evidence we have for tissos is more interesting and realistic

[robust ether]

that's fair, I do find zombies that are obviously supernatural in origin more interesting in shows

[robust ether]

i am so ready to be rotting flesh

[robust ether]

Feels like it opens more doors and all

[fast forge]

There's this one legacy art for all the strains, and the stuff in the background on the tisso section gives us some clues

[robust ether]

Oh the really old one?

[fast forge]

probably

[robust ether]

I do wonder if that'd mean tissos would also be doomed to die sort of like hyper. Obviously not from the same thing but still.

[fast forge]

Tisso involved with "cell lines" - that is, multiple lineages of cultured cells

[robust ether]

I do wish the smaller text was more eligible

I always thought that tisso rex in that just had a weird pattern going on but I kind of wonder if it's literally muscle showing in some spots. Wish I had my glasses rn lol.

[fast forge]

AD-GFP?
GFP is Green Fluorescent Protein, a common marker gene in genetic research to see if your new target gene is working

[hexed forge]

Ceratosaurus DNA in Hypers

[robust ether]

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-doctor-octopus-the-power-of-the-sun-in-the-palm-of-my-hand-sun-gif-23770857

[fast forge]

yes you pointed this out in the original conversation where I got this

[robust ether]

And idea if there's a high quality image out there?

[hexed forge]

uhh

[fast forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

oh yea

Does that say Dilo?

[fast forge]

dilonosononosoo

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

at first I thought this was just redacted black boxes
But looking at it now, it might be test results or something?

[hexed forge]

Might be

[fast forge]

I don't think this is what it is, but it reminds me of gel electrophoresis results

Oh I see, Ad-GFP is a system to introduce GFP into an organism, called "Ad" for the use of an adenovirus as a vector

[hexed forge]

hmmmm

[fast forge]

MCF-7 (breast cancer cells) - MCF-7 is a human breast cancer cell line that is used primarily as an in vitro model to study the biology of breast cancer, develop chemotherapeutic drugs, and understand drug resistance.

I think all the cell lines shown here are just common cell lines in research

MDA-MB-231 is also used in breast cancer research

Same with "BT-474"

I can't read the numbers on the final one but HCC is probably short for "hepatocellular carcinoma" cell lines

idk maybe it means nothing, and Vega just pulled from cancer studies for the background graphs

But tisso having something to do with cancer research would kinda make sense

[lethal moat]

Makes sense

[hexed forge]

Hmmmm, it would make sense yeah

[muted reef]

More tisso talk?

[hexed forge]

Yep

[muted reef]

We must entice Dondi to give us information on the best strain (aka tisso)

[strange shell]

The edgy strain

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-kramer-seinfeld-gif-5503484

[muted reef]

The Wolverine strain

[strange shell]

I was just thinking, which superhero is the Tisso strain most similar to
And wolverine isn't the first one that came to mind

[muted reef]

Healing, Sharp claws/quills

[strange shell]

My mind tells me spiderman, but I suspect that's because he spins web and the french for it would be "TISSer une toile"

[lethal moat]

I want the active camo to be a thing, but scar tissue distorts/ruins the effect

[muted reef]

Why would it be spiderman if tisso heals

[strange shell]

Do we know tisso is about healing ? I kinda thought that was hyper's thing

[muted reef]

Not hypers thing, and it's confirmed tisso is the giga healer

I mean hyper has to have strong healing to exist, but not on tissos level

[lethal moat]

Hypers may heal faster than normal, but they may not be able to regenerate lost limbs/organs

[strange shell]

I see

[muted reef]

Hypers are ultra durable

[strange shell]

So... Tisso is deadpool ?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-shocked-surprised-gasp-shook-gif-26807082

[hexed forge]

What if fire is a vulnerability to tisso

[lethal moat]

Stomach Acid

[strange shell]

That would be fun

[hexed forge]

Actually I feel like that would be a vulnerability to Neuro, making Storms/nighttime the best time to be on the surface as a neuro.

During day just hide in human structures or in GUTS

[lethal moat]

Stop Tisso from regenerating

[fast forge]

yes

[upbeat seal]

https://tenor.com/view/war-thunder-aphe-shell-animation-explosion-gif-15419285057989472881

[icy onyx]

What if the bones on the original game were playable

[lethal moat]

Munchy munchy crunchy spear

[hexed forge]

The Islandwalker?

[lethal moat]

You know what we haven’t done in awhile? Plant discussion

[hexed forge]

@patent ginkgo

[hexed forge]

Strain plants maybe

[lethal moat]

Nah

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

Lets talk genetically modified plants that don’t need to be related to strains

And what qualifies as an environmental hazard to multi-ton reptiles

[hexed forge]

Literally every dietary plant on Gateway is probably genetically modified

[acoustic osprey]

Better orange using crispr

[hexed forge]

yes

[hexed forge]

Likely*

[lethal moat]

What if hyper plants are dangerous because they grow too quickly

[hexed forge]

Trillium seems to not be hazard to the herbivores, even tho its toxic to us. (Im not sure if Trillium is edible by animals other than us)

[hexed forge]

You just said no strain plant talk

[lethal moat]

What I said can be applied to non-strain stuff, something doesn’t become true because I say it

[lethal moat]

I wouldn’t call that an environmental hazard

[hexed forge]

Strain plants would be environmental hazards then

[lethal moat]

Could be

[hexed forge]

Hyper plants would probably be carnivorous

[lethal moat]

Why?

[hexed forge]

Why not

[lethal moat]

Also, sandbox tree

Would be cool to see some sort of plant using projectiles

[hexed forge]

Large plants evolving into surviving off of another food source. Heck it might be the only food source that they could consume

[lethal moat]

Why

Why not use the sun

[hexed forge]

Maybe tisso plants

[hexed forge]

What if its not enough.

Iirc in legacy, when Don showed the plant concepts, he has said that some will be able to eat dinosaurs. So I dont think its an idea completely from nowhere.

[lethal moat]

It’s not impossible, I just think there should be reasons

[hexed forge]

Food/energy

Idk

[lethal moat]

What?

[hexed forge]

A reason on why Hyper plants would capture and eat dinosaurs/animals

[lethal moat]

How does that relate to food

[hexed forge]

What...

Hyper plant > In order to survive > It needs energy/food.

[lethal moat]

What benefits would hyper plants have that make that worth it

[hexed forge]

The only sustainable food source for Hyper plants...

Thats the benefit..

[lethal moat]

NO

Why are hyper plants necessary

[hexed forge]

OH

[hexed forge]

Research/test purposes

Basically the same reason on why Hyper Dinos exist, probably

[lethal moat]

Why not just do one, what dictates the necessity of both?

[hexed forge]

One tests how x strain effects plants, Other tests how x strain effects animals. Two different organisms so they both could have 2 different results

[lethal moat]

What would the benefit of a plant strain be over a normal organism?

[hexed forge]

Maybe climate change has something to do with it.

[lethal moat]

Explain

[hexed forge]

Maybe strains have something to do with AE trying to "revert" climate change

[lethal moat]

Explore that a bit, how could that work, beyond clearing out an existing ecosystem to get a blank slate to start over

[hexed forge]

Make the plants adapt to their current environment maybe

[lethal moat]

That might work for tisso stuff, but what about the others?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/no-idea-idk-i-dunno-i-dont-know-no-clue-gif-5178996

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-think-winnie-the-pooh-gif-15963221

[hexed forge]

Well hyper strain will effect the plants growth and size probably.
Neuro strain.... I.. I dont know.
Tisso would focus more on adaptability ofc.

https://tenor.com/view/hugh-laurie-house-i-dont-know-gif-24677137

[lethal moat]

Pheremones maybe

[hexed forge]

Perhaps

[patent ginkgo]

Oops I missed this

Was shoveling mulch

[lofty swallow]

hey speaking of strains, are there any side views of concept art for any of the dinosaurs on the roster? feels like we've only seen the renders for some of em

[lethal moat]

This is it

[hexed forge]

The only official evrima strain concept so far

[lofty swallow]

dang okay

[hexed forge]

Wah oh

[lethal moat]

Cement!

[hexed forge]

Plot twist: Albert is the CEO of AE

[lofty swallow]

did you find this ingame?

[hexed forge]

yes

[lofty swallow]

dang, I guess dondi just really likes alberto

[hexed forge]

Im atleast 80% sure that thats a marketplace asset

[chrome acorn]

No this CLEARLY means Alberto is coming before allo

[lethal moat]

[serene hare]

Does someone actually knows the isle evrima’s lore?

I’m mad interested but these yt vids are like 7 months to like centuries old

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-saul-goodman-cinnabon-gene-takovic-breaking-bad-gif-18604515

trust me, the one from the end of last year (Lightclaw) is still pretty accurate at the moment for an introduction to Isle's lore

[serene hare]

Alr cuz I got confused when some people said the isle was at one point connected to primal carnage

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, no longer the case anymore

wasn't originally
then was
then it was contested
then it was
then it was confirmed as no longer part of the lore

but yeah
anyone saying it is for Evrima is wrong

[serene hare]

Oh okay but is the matriarch monster thing still connected to evrima still or nah?

[acoustic osprey]

still is
but in a new light, seemingly

being that it's more connected to the strains then it was in Legacy
specifically tissos

[serene hare]

Ooooh

[acoustic osprey]

being that it (the matriarch) is

A rapidly evolving creature that can intake biomass and reproduce certain physical properties

[lethal moat]

I heard matriarch talk?

[acoustic osprey]

uh oh

[serene hare]

Wait but what about the strains?

[acoustic osprey]

I'll send what we have in the doc

[lethal moat]

Magna is scrapped, tisso, hyper, and neuro are still in

[acoustic osprey]

Hyperendocrin (Type-H): Significantly larger, stronger, and more dangerous than normal. Increased metabolism leads to inevitable starvation. Armored appearance.
Neurotenic (Type-N): Larger than normal, capable of communicating telepathically with other dinosaurs. Slimy, veined appearance. Suspected to control the weather, other dinosaurs, possibly telekinesis. Type-N Spinosaurus could emit EMPs that affect electronics and vision.
Tissoplastic (Type-T): Smaller than average, can likely blend in by changing to the color of its surroundings. Has better regeneration, possibly able to regenerate lost/destroyed limbs.

[acoustic osprey]

^

[serene hare]

Oh okay

[acoustic osprey]

Magna also had a PC situation
where it was back
then it wasn't but replaced with "O"
then "O" was scrapped

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit There's this, as well as a lore server, a podcast, and a few youtube channels

[acoustic osprey]

we should probably have a reference to PC no longer being connected to the game, Rump

i've seen a lot of minor videos on YT with people still saying it is lol

[lethal moat]

Probably

[serene hare]

Oh and wasn’t there like a thing called the cannibals?

[acoustic osprey]

aye

https://survive-the-isle.fandom.com/wiki/The_Eyeless
refer to this

[serene hare]

Omg

[acoustic osprey]

but basically it was originally referred to as the cannibals
then it was said that they're not technically named the cannibals
but actually Gen1s (the Tribals) were cannibals

So the people that look like that have no officially public name

so we just call them "The Eyeless"

[serene hare]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

Gen1s (Tribals) being these guys from legacy art

whole lot of mess about "what's official and what's not"
blame recode

[serene hare]

They look mad creepy

[acoustic osprey]

you should have a look at the new art/model if you haven't already

fun stuff

[serene hare]

So this is the gen1s?

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[serene hare]

Dang the isle has a lot of stuff

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

lot's to hope about, sadly but greatly

[serene hare]

And gen 2 are the humans?

[acoustic osprey]

aye

but yeah
I'd definitely reading the lore theory document if you want!

It's not the best thing in the world for a cohesive 'story'
but definitely an interesting read for terms, ideas and things in lore

I want to get around to making proper videos discussing more 'time-line'-esque stuff / periods of lore
but yeah. Basically impossible at the moment for proper videos on it.

but don't be afraid to ask any 'specific' lore questions
Always fun to get something discussing here

[lethal moat]

Alright I'm back

Does he know about the trinity?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mc-mahon-gulp-gulps-nervous-uh-oh-gif-16217862

[lethal moat]

You do have edit privileges now right?

[acoustic osprey]

aye

not sure where to place it though lol

[lethal moat]

Might be good to include as an addition to the forward

[acoustic osprey]

fair fair

might put it in bold as well?

[lethal moat]

Could replace the hyper ~ hypo statement

[acoustic osprey]

Sure

[lethal moat]

Appreciated

[acoustic osprey]

(PSA: Primal Carnage, both the original and Extinction, are no longer connected to The Isle’s Lore)

[lethal moat]

Were once connected to the isle lore, but has since been scrapped in the Evrima version?

[acoustic osprey]

don't really want to refer to it that much
"longer connected" still kinda infers that it was

but also because technically it was supposed to be for Evrima
more so properly canonised for Evrima (recode at the time) by Hope.

[lethal moat]

Ight

[acoustic osprey]

but yeah
now no longer the case

[lethal moat]

Whatever works

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

if there's any issue
i don't mind if it needs to be updated or anything

[lethal moat]

I can do it later

But yeah, better to clarify that than nitpick hyper vs hypo

[acoustic osprey]

yeah lol

definitely brings more confusion with PC than Hypers

[lethal moat]

Imagine a hypo strain though

Smol and fat

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/rafacomfome-food-hungry-hangry-feed-me-gif-13831264

[acoustic osprey]

lol

pretty much
small fat dinosaur

basically a couch potato
very immunocompromised
small
fat
small energy levels
very lazy

[lethal moat]

Ben

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[serene hare]

Wait the trinity?

[lethal moat]

Humanoid strain creatures

We call them the trinity

[serene hare]

Ohhh

[lethal moat]

Echidna, Reaper, and Colossus

[serene hare]

OOH

Now I know what you were talking abt

[lethal moat]

Echidna is (a) CARRIER, whatever that means

[zenith frigate]

did dondi mess up when he made this because they dont line up

[acoustic osprey]

more so Tapwing

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png?ex=66e73901&is=66e5e781&hm=b1d990ef153a917e2be1aad3d0419fedf04f1da865fc9d8f49a2bc2126f9db45&
it's why we have this 😊

[zenith frigate]

i coud never blame tapwing

[acoustic osprey]

she did that iirc
so it would be her fault!!!

[lethal moat]

Magic

[hexed forge]

What's messed up in that?

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

[acoustic osprey]

(this is my fixed version)

[hexed forge]

Oh, I'm blind

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

Small lore hunt with the Halloween lore video, hope.

[acoustic osprey]

that'd be nice

heck
it might be why dondi has been quite absent recently

not to say "WE MUST TRACK WHEN DONDI IS ACTIVE AND NOT ACTIVE"

because, uh, some people definitely took it close to that direction with the "June lore drop" many years ago

(which it turned out Don had personal stuff going on, if anyone forgot that Don was asked about it and replied some months after)

which I don't think anyone here really cares / remembered much about it anyways

it was from that period of time when basically no one interacted with lore
besides me, too much, and a few others like bubulblu, amongst a few handful of others

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/creepy-hamster-stare-watching-you-cute-gif-17721600

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/olaf-wow-gif-22190506

[hexed forge]

Ima just post this rq...

Does the lore doc say on what the biodomes are?

If it doesnt, I think we should write that down.

[acoustic osprey]

no not yet

[hexed forge]

"Controlled environments made for testing creatures/biomes made for specific creatures that need it"

Something like that, not sure.

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-tiffany-stratton-why-arent-you-writing-this-down-write-it-down-write-that-down-gif-8328169563803209619

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hbo-rome-pharsalus-i-want-to-go-home-im-tired-gif-27352683

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/wake-up-sgt-hulka-stripes-gif-2448624411390215305

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-minion-minion-girl-cyring-gripping-gif-23947866

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

[dawn arch]

in ht eu 2 the rain wont stop T-T its so loud

[hexed forge]

Wrong chat

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

Does AE have their own satellite? Or are they using a government satellite? (I am not educated on satellites and how companies use them)

It wouldn't surprise me if AE has their own satellites.

[fast forge]

yes even in the 90's there were plenty of privately-owned satellites

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

I wonder what else AE would use satellites for besides gathering data on their tests

Spying perhaps

[fast forge]

telecommunications 100%

[hexed forge]

oh yeah

[fast forge]

And remember that AE is just a part of the larger Apollo company, which would have many resources

[hexed forge]

True

[lethal moat]

AE going out and testing the effects of zero gravity on microraptors

[hexed forge]

The isle in 2050: Space DLC

[robust ether]

(they spin like cats)

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/roger-federer-federer-serve-tennis-tennisgifs-gif-20740431

[ornate comet]

havent been in this channel for a while, feed me new lore

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/napoleon-there's-nothing-we-can-do-napoleon-pyritesian-gif-17490332095914688011

We have very little

[ornate comet]

Man

[hexed forge]

Basically 0

Albert Cement !!

[snow jasper]

Whats old to you can always be new to others

[hexed forge]

Let me recite the entire document rq

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/cyberpunk-edgerunners-edge-runner-edge-runners-cyberpunk-edgerunner-cyberpunk2077-gif-27635553

[subtle gazelle]

smartest the isle player

[lethal moat]

I wonder what AE’s veterinary services are, do they try to intervene and save some dinos, or do they take the role of an observer and let it happen?

[knotty locust]

probably depends on the asset

i do not doubt that their policy is "law of the jungle" but for certain assets, like shirley for example, are specifically cared for

[lethal moat]

Allosaurus is always allowed to die, but named dinosaurs might get special treatment (potentially Dean with his impairment)

[subtle gazelle]

do yall got a life or

how many hours yall got in the isle

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-norman-osborn-knife-sharpening-green-goblin-willem-dafoe-gif-20955065

[acoustic osprey]

Erm

What is life

[acoustic osprey]

it depends
if we look at everything we've seen at the moment

they seem very observant
like the dibble video especially

"oh no, one of our dibbles died ..."

"NOOOOOO THEY TOUCHED THE TRAIL CAMERA!!! SEND SOMEONE TO REPLACE THE CAMERA!!!!"

https://tenor.com/view/running-ahh-aa-spongebob-meme-gif-19928154

[hexed forge]

I don't think so in my opinion. I don't think any named specimen (as of now) gets any special treatment in the wild.

[acoustic osprey]

if you die
you weren't suited to live
therefore those that live. Pass off their successful genes

[hexed forge]

Dean for example,

Even though he has a problem that limits his survival, I believe that he's still able to survive due to his intelligence. Maybe the bond with his sibling Shirley is keeping him alive.

[acoustic osprey]

sounds likely

but the second part is 50/50 atm
till we see more information on such/a new lore video

we only hear SHIRLEY in the AUGUSTUS video
so nothing yet we could say for certain for that big

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[regal sundial]

afaik the current tisso lore is extreme regeneration and camouflage and maybe poison/venom

So remains to be seen what the threshold there is for their regeneration if any

[regal sundial]

Tissoplastic have it is worth noting always been less confidently fleshed out as "what that strain does"

And rewritten at least once since then afaik

[regal sundial]

So they could possibly go fatalis mode and like

Give anything that "kills" and eats it hyper cancer

https://tenor.com/view/shin-godzilla-humanoids-godzilla-resurgence-tail-godzilla-gif-22406522

Sprouting random growths of the tisso creature internally and externally..

[acoustic osprey]

currently in evrima we know it to be confirmed to have regeneration of limbs

camo and the rest are still speculative at the moment

Some of us thought such regenerative could turn necrotic-esque.
To the point of becoming zombie-esque

especially the more it uses it's ability

[regal sundial]

I mean if there were extreme trauma I'd figure there'd be plenty of necrotic tissue but it would eventually be shed and replaced

[acoustic osprey]

basically, akin to Hypers, being a timed experience to an extent

[regal sundial]

I do wonder if they'll go back on the hyper 'doomed to starve 100%' thing and have it be more a extreme likelihood

[acoustic osprey]

other way around in this idea

your regenerative ability is great the first many times you use it
more so the idea of it decaying over time - your ability

[regal sundial]

Honestly I'd figure rather than rot

[acoustic osprey]

most likely have each strain have their own fatal flaw for balance reasons

[regal sundial]

They'd become like..

Deadpool but worse

Especially with all the cancer referrences

Dinosaur slowly just turning into an immortal lump of anomalous flesh

[acoustic osprey]

(this point)

[regal sundial]

I just don't see it becoming necrotic and more like

[acoustic osprey]

To the point of becoming zombie-esque

[regal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/annihilation-shimmer-portal-gif-9866555

[acoustic osprey]

and even then
not necrotic necrotic

more so necrotic as a descriptor
hence necrotic-esque

how do you describe the large chunks of flesh, almost oozing out of the poor 'thing' of a creature

but even then
like it's always been

Tissos being the least detailed strain at the moment

[regal sundial]

Body would become less and less of a coherent logical structure and it'd get nasty immune and skin conditions, random patches of different integuments, fill w/ tumors, maybe even like random teeth and limbs sprouting in the later stages where it has basically just become a colony of various competing cancers more than an animal

I figure. If they went down that path

[regal sundial]

What even is the flaw meant to be with neuro?

[acoustic osprey]

basically no skin
either you have it pain to day
or physically weak

just like tisso
assumed flaw

[regal sundial]

I did know about the whole, physically deficient angle but that wouldn't necessarily be lethal

[acoustic osprey]

i mean for hypers
you have hunger as a fatal flaw, which is a bit petty
but a pretty effective flaw for design

[regal sundial]

The neuro part of that image w/ the three strains I notice has EKG graphs, mentions of sleep disorders, dementia, parkinsons, parthogenesis(I think that says), and has that portrayal of a magnetic field in front of the head

[acoustic osprey]

old fun vega stuff

[regal sundial]

Not sure what the graph below the head is referring to

Yeah

[regal sundial]

Also not sure what to make of the graph in the middle either, something to do with neurons judging by the flipped text partially obscured by the leg I guess

And the paper behind is diagrams of a brain

[acoustic osprey]

something about neurons

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/c61fad755406b75f25e228176db1c68e

[regal sundial]

Something to do with distribution of data

[acoustic osprey]

maybe it's french
number of the neurons (number of neurons)?

[regal sundial]

Honestly examining these images on this scale beyond those basic reads of "brain/brainwaves/magnetic field/disorders of the brain" probably isn't really worth it or anything

Because it's mostly fluff past that point

[regal sundial]

Probably

[acoustic osprey]

especially since they're almost 10 years old and probably very invalidated/inaccurate at the moment lol

[regal sundial]

Maybe the lethal flaw of the neuro is your brain is so juiced it burns out faster

Get dino alzheimers and or parkinsons

[acoustic osprey]

get close to building
it get's fried by the electromagnetic radiowaves !!!

[regal sundial]

What is uhh the disease where your nerves delaminate?

[regal sundial]

That could be a way of containing them I figure

[acoustic osprey]

like parkinsons?

[regal sundial]

Microphone vs speaker, antenna vs reciever ect

[regal sundial]

Is it parkinsons that does that?

[acoustic osprey]

not really

[regal sundial]

I think I may be thinking of multiple sclerosis

[acoustic osprey]

ALS?

[regal sundial]

Myelin is basically the insulation on the axons of neurons as rubber is for copper cabling and multiple sclerosis degrades that sheath

So the axon is no longer protected and electrical impulses in the brain and spinal cord disperse rather than reaching their intended destination

[lethal moat]

Interesting

@subtle gazelle Please don’t evade the automod’s swear filter

[regal sundial]

You get what I mean referring to this in regards to the sign on the fence?

[acoustic osprey]

gone anyways

[lethal moat]

Oops

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

to an extent

[regal sundial]

Like to be capable of producing magnetic fields for telepathy (or weather manipulation ect)

They also inherently become open to them as well

[acoustic osprey]

ah yeah

[regal sundial]

Like an appropriate signal frequency and strength can turn a transmitter into a reciever

*Effectively

So an appropriate emitter could serve to blast a neuro creature's brain with white noise

[lethal moat]

Wouldn't that also make you extremely receptive to those signals as week?
Taser taser taser

[regal sundial]

Or at least, suppress it's abilities

Jamming them basically. It IS called the suppression field, no?

[regal sundial]

I mean their whole vibe is that their nervous system is extremely overdeveloped so they're probably sensitive to electrical impulses like that, more than a normal creature

[lethal moat]

I’m going to poke a neuro with a cattle prod and see what happens

[regal sundial]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Electromagnetic_induction_-_solenoid_to_loop_-_animation.gif

About that

[lethal moat]

Is that a geiger counter?

[acoustic osprey]

electromagnetic

[lethal moat]

Right, because copper wire like that is either an electromagnet or an induction heater

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-willem-dafoe-duh-duhh-obviously-gif-16794513

That won’t save neuro from getting poked with the zappy stick

[regal sundial]

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/00-person-human-poster-advertisement-gif-10420656907401268303

[acoustic osprey]

if i had the gif of dr house electrocuting himself
I would send it

[regal sundial]

Just consider if they can produce a strong enough field to short our electronics

And have the precision (presumably) to be able to magnetically induce current in your brain to make you halluscinate or communicate telepathically.

[acoustic osprey]

don't know about telepathy being in lore for them

if anything
it seems to be changed/not included

we know Echidna can, now, communicate with a perfect human voice through short range radio waves

Imagine if it was more interpreted like a siren, capable of mimicking only voices it heard. The distress signals that come from the short-range communication on the island, and the voices heard in transmissions are from already deceased individuals that are now being used as lures.

[regal sundial]

(I am implying they could power word kill you, or microwave you)

[lethal moat]

Anything on neuros at this point would be appreciated, we know the least about them in Evrima

[lethal moat]

I like it

[regal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/evangelion-neon-genesis-evangelion-unit01-shinji-skewered-gif-27272003

[acoustic osprey]

more so tissos honestly
well

we know one thing on tissos - just nothing on reaper
and one thing on neuros - just that it's from echidna

[lethal moat]

If they can communicate between species, they could use that power to serve or die

[lethal moat]

We know what tisso does in Evrima, we haven’t had much reconfirmation for Neuro

And since neuro had such a wide variety of abilities in legacy, I wouldn’t be surprised if things changed somewhat

[acoustic osprey]

we know one thing on tissos - just nothing on reaper
and one thing on neuros - just that it's from echidna

[regal sundial]

Guns potentially wouldn't even work on extremely powerful individuals

Not normal ones at least

[acoustic osprey]

why does my gun not hit the damn thing!!

[regal sundial]

https://youtu.be/Vy7RaQUmOzE?si=76O3Y0BrR2-NbII-&t=168

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[regal sundial]

POV the neurotenic spino breached containment
https://youtu.be/sCUY6q8i3Yw

[lethal moat]

Fear not, your liberator has arrived, assist me or be discarded

[regal sundial]

Honestly neuros are a lot more scary to me than hyper at least

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-ragnarok-nod-chris-hemsworth-thor-yup-gif-14591378

[regal sundial]

Tisso.. could end up having some The Thing type body horror

[lethal moat]

Zombie/horrendously disfigured healing/rot it my guess

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/korg-thor-ragnorak-gif-11236441

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-revolution-has-begun-area51-ready-to-attack-gif-15323378

[acoustic osprey]

Isleution

[regal sundial]

Confused IT tech not understanding why everything needs shielded twisted pair, and faraday cages..

It's already a isolated island with super strict physical security! Why so worried about strictly controlling emissions?

[lethal moat]

Why do all of our PDA tablets have lead shielding?
It’s better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it

[regal sundial]

If the weather manipulation thing is still, a thing, then perhaps with the right atmospheric conditions they might straight up just be able to zeus you.

https://tenor.com/view/zeus-and-then-along-came-zeus-lightning-bolt-gif-22424388

And or induce a extremely powerful static discharge

Like you would need shielded suits and weaponry akin to those experimental anti-protest microwave cannons to 'fight' something like a neuro

[lethal moat]

Our recent theories ask wether or not it controls weather or only shows up when it starts to rain

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/electric-tazer-gif-15632411

[regal sundial]

You'd need an awfully big taser for a dinosaur

And it'd have to be shielded so it didn't just short out it's internals

[lethal moat]

Car battery tied to two harpoons

[regal sundial]

And immobilizing it alone would not really stop it from doing a myriad of other things

[regal sundial]

💥

[lethal moat]

Human characters trying to do things vastly out of their area of expertise in an emergency would be funny

[regal sundial]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/134720091576205312/1172729388572348546/togif-10-1.gif

Pictured: Omniraptor after a neurotenic spino excited the molecules of it's brain to the point that enough heat and pressure were generated that it's head exploded like a faulty pressure cooker

[lethal moat]

Now I’m picturing the strains like a dnd party, and the neuro is trying to convince everyone to do the classic “tie the familiar to explosives and send him in” trick

[regal sundial]

I mean.. they originally were pretty much based on like fighter/mage/rogue

STR/INT/AGI sort of distinctions

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

then magnas were made

[regal sundial]

Wasn't the deal with that is that magna was just the term AE used for stolen Phoenix dinosaur 'patterns'

[acoustic osprey]

magnas were just, basically, Phoenix Int. designs
but renamed under AE's sake 😊 👍

[regal sundial]

Ya

[acoustic osprey]

Magnas were always confused as strains

[regal sundial]

idk why in ye olden days the magna tyrannus was so hyped up

[acoustic osprey]

as technically Magnas were the "Hyper but less flawed"

more so
Magnas were just variants of dinosaurs

'magnas' were just the standard Dinos designs/'dna'/build that Phoenix had cooked up

[acoustic osprey]

mmmhmm

meanwhile the model basically being almost exactly 1:1 to PC rex

[regal sundial]

ALLFATHER

[acoustic osprey]

mhm

[regal sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/dark-crystal-the-dark-crystal-skeksil-how-tragic-the-chamberlain-gif-26732634

[acoustic osprey]

was about to say lol
LOTS of old lore build-up from that time though on it

and related

PROJECT HADES!!

[fast forge]

no

[regal sundial]

Stripe on the omniraptor imo is still blatantly referential to the novaraptor

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/girl-minion-minion-girl-cyring-gripping-gif-23947866

[regal sundial]

Hoh?

[acoustic osprey]

h carno

[regal sundial]

Oh right

[lethal moat]

Speed demon

[acoustic osprey]

more so code hades wrong
but yeah

[regal sundial]

Yeah in the twilight of legacy it was hyped to the moon and back

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/olaf-wow-gif-22190506

[lethal moat]

I’ve heard tale of 2018 lore

[regal sundial]

I think it was briefly in a playable state and they bullied people with it some

iirc

[acoustic osprey]

2018 lore 2018 lore hype and build-up

https://tenor.com/view/amadeus-mozart-is-dead-wake-up-shake-gif-16686328

that never was

[acoustic osprey]

more or less

i believe there's a hypno yt video on it somewhere

[regal sundial]

H Utah...

[acoustic osprey]

h EVERYTHING !!

i do wonder what'll be next.
(out of context)

[regal sundial]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/320896491596283906/1088557151250821210/attachment-1-1.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hmusicruof4-rockin-the-suburbs-ben-folds-everywhere-at-the-end-of-time-everlasting-dread-gif-25610244

[fossil nebula]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/981967554383867944.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/what-could-possibly-come-next-the-history-guy-what-could-come-next-whats-next-whats-gonna-happen-gif-19154495

[fast forge]

Hyper Minmi out here eating all of the aquatic plants, stripping the riparian ecosystems clean

[lethal moat]

Hyper minmi is anky

[median shuttle]

pinboard in the harbormaster building

[lethal moat]

Ain't nothin sadder than not fishin

[median shuttle]

can anyone with a resolution screen higher than 1920x1080p make a screenshot of this? I'd like to know what more the fineprint says (probably not lore relevant)

also is that dondis dog on that board?

[lethal moat]

It's probably a marketplace asset, people don't really put that stuff on work bilboards, eviction notices and divorce agreements

[median shuttle]

idk maybe one guy working at the ae harbourmaster is really going through it

[lethal moat]

Janet's life isn't going too great

[median shuttle]

but nothin sadder than not fishin

[lethal moat]

That's just facts

[regal sundial]

Might be referring to irl things in the past. I doubt that highly though.

[lethal moat]

Probably marketplace

[regal sundial]

Since like, you'd not air that on a random bulletin board lmao

Yeah

[hexed forge]

It's 100% a marketplace asset

[reef canyon]

Harbormaster just lost his dog, is going through a divorce, is being evicted, but hey, at least he's got tons of coupons and then again, nothing sadder than not fishin

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/fishing-rod-snap-cast-fish-fail-gif-12287312812350764341

[hexed forge]

(The bulletin board is in the gas station building so uhh)

The gas station worker has been going through some stuff

[fast forge]

he's got such a short fishing pole, how far does he really think he's casting that line?

long fishing pole = long lever arm, gives you a further cast

[zenith frigate]

it doesnt matter
hes just going to swim over there

[acoustic osprey]

yep

but
Unless we find the original model
we don't know what has and has not been applied 'post-purchase'

if we do get Dondi come into chat anytime soon
I do say we should ask him, like ages ago with things like 'afterthought' on the locker, if things like marketplace assets are all canon to lore

or even
if Visual/someone else adds 'extra' things to them post-purchase

(like the QR code on the vending machine)

[acoustic osprey]

is it also in the gas station?

because I remember it being in the harbour master
alongside the fridge
and some cabinets

and the MICROWAVE.

those cabinets really do feel like marketplace assets

they do not fit at all

[hexed forge]

Yeah it was iirc

Unless maybe its in both

[snow jasper]

yes, where is my brutalistic neo soviet designed microwave

[hexed forge]

Uga will finalize the docks soonTM, just gotta have hope

[hexed forge]

Watch it just be part of a marketplace asset, just a different one

[acoustic osprey]

looks like a no on my stream
unless it was added within the last 11 days

[acoustic osprey]

potentially

[hexed forge]

Then I am dumb

[hexed forge]

Lets make predictions on what the next major human structure addition is after the Docks.

Perimeter being opened, please.

[lethal moat]

Partial GUTS access or visitor center is my guess

[fast forge]

more docks
if the concept art is anything to go by, there will be a number of other docks, and now they have the assets created for them (cranes, buildings, etc)

[hexed forge]

Mmmm, Jace being put on full Dock duty..

For some reason I doubt we will be getting another Dock area anytime soon, just a gut feeling.

[acoustic osprey]

more docks is a potential
but also the domes

i know they're in-game
but actually functional domes

either the domes or the atrium itself being worked on more

ignoring GUTS though
depends
I see GUTS being only properly added once humans are properly in

[fast forge]

makes sense

Domes would be very fun, but considering what we know they've been working on, I see more docks coming

Like don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE domes

[hexed forge]

My Guts are telling me that we wont be getting any new Dock areas for awhile...

||Im about to be proven wrong next month ||

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
it's all a modular system

so a new docks can be as easy to make as a ranger outpost

so who knows

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-star-wars-gif-4723491180103301225

[lethal moat]

Domes or undergrounds stuff would be neat, I want massive enclosed spaces

[acoustic osprey]

underground echo chamber

[lethal moat]

Tartarus, perchance

[acoustic osprey]

basically

[ornate comet]

Currently learning how to us OBS to record some terrible gameplay for youtube

[acoustic osprey]

shouldn't be too hard

[fast forge]

yeah the basics are pretty straightforward

[ornate comet]

well I have zero experience lol, watching a video on the basics rn

[acoustic osprey]

just gotta watch your rendering and encoding lag

[hexed forge]

Just set 2 custom keybinds to stop/start recording

[ornate comet]

gonna be this key: `

[acoustic osprey]

and adjust your output settings

[ornate comet]

Not gonna be using my mic, does dragging the audio bar under it just disable it

[hexed forge]

Accidentally starts recording while in a discord convo

[lethal moat]

I just do the manual start/stop

[ornate comet]

dear god its massive

[hexed forge]

I would recommend a key combo, Alt + `, etc etc

[ornate comet]

using spelunky as a test since its easy

[ornate comet]

oh yeah a combo would be good

well If I set start recording and stop recording to the same button does my pc detonate

[hexed forge]

yes

I think Ben's computer just detonated

[lethal moat]

Ben will be missed

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184681758231363636/1219346714587304077/The_Isle_Lore.gif

[ornate comet]

I expect an @ whenever Ben is mentioned

anyway, did a test, recorded audio and stuff just fine. Ima play a bit and see how it turns out and ill get back to you guys

[hexed forge]

[ornate comet]

seems to be working good, no clue what program I would do to edit things like sound effects and stuff but thats something for another day

Its time for my terrible gameplay video

[hexed forge]

Davincii

[acoustic osprey]

Yep ^

Davinci resolve is great

[ornate comet]

Free?

[zenith frigate]

theres a free version
its pretty basic but it gets the job done

[ornate comet]

I have 2 20 minute recordings I wanted to splice together then cut out a lot of parts, I can add le funny sound effects after I get mote comfortable with editing

[zenith frigate]

davinci will work well for that

[ornate comet]

nvm I guess I didnt tap resume recording and missed me tracking a raptor for 15 mins just for it to rock camp

[acoustic osprey]

soon

[lethal moat]

On the topic of people being experimented on by AE being similar to astronauts, what happens to those “unfit for service” because they can’t just leave, do they help in other ways?

[muted hill]

I feel like with what I know about the lore, I could see AE using them as dinosaur food, cant expose them if they're eaten

[lethal moat]

Seems wasteful

[muted hill]

If they're unfit for service what else would you do with them aside throw them away

[lethal moat]

Here’s everything by we know about everything we know of https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[lethal moat]

Janitor

[muted hill]

I have had a look through

I like the documents makes it easier to see what we know

I guess yeah other jobs

[lethal moat]

Craig the forklift operator, legend among men

[muted hill]

Forklift certified perk for gen 2 confirmed

[lethal moat]

Drivable forklift with sharpened tines to duel the trikes

[muted hill]

prehistoric park moment

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/forklift-dog-china-helmet-gif-8517737966682761744

[hexed forge]

New patch..

Follow lore protocol #5

[hexed forge]

Exactly

Ok the patch was reverted temporarily

[icy onyx]

That's how I feel about mutation hunting........

[lethal moat]

If you could find me a pattern recognition mutation, I would be very appreciative

[icy onyx]

I've been looking. Nothing yet. The map needs to update more by the looks of it.

[low scarab]

We are all like little peasants hoping we win the lottery and are the first one to find something interesting

[low scarab]

Time to go in all the buildings

[zenith frigate]

CHECK EVERY SHIPPING CONTAINER

[hexed forge]

GUTS entrance leading straight to the old base

[hexed forge]

yep

[robust ether]

Oo

[zenith frigate]

seems like the walls may be getting extended

[hexed forge]

Thats not new

[zenith frigate]

well damn

[lethal moat]

Cerato is the fence guy

[hexed forge]

Current predictions

[zenith frigate]

dont know if one of these has been made yet

[hexed forge]

The GUTS of gateway

[hexed forge]

This one is gone

[zenith frigate]

heres both

[hexed forge]

hmm huh

Oh it was moved under the map

[zenith frigate]

they moved all three underthe map

[hexed forge]

Sadge that Docks were released unfinalized

[acoustic osprey]

Quite so

Pretty bummed out about that actually

[fast forge]

this is the location of that base that's been under the map for a while, right?

[zenith frigate]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

yep ^

[hexed forge]

Same

[ruby salmon]

Where can I took a look at this model of gateway? By doing replays like in legacy?

[zenith frigate]

use a free admin server
replay mode is unreliable

[lethal moat]

Admin mode

[acoustic osprey]

if only we could read these lol

despite them all likely just being marketplace text

at least they're not lorem ipsum

but they're basically unreadable anyways

[lethal moat]

Docks are going to be a joy to check for stuff whenever there’s updates, so many doors and nooks that can have stuff in them

[hexed forge]

Definitely marketplace

[hexed forge]

Just wish they were released finalized

[acoustic osprey]

but that's the thing though Cerato
even if they're marketplace ... what's been added onto them ... what's not

[acoustic osprey]

i understand it's build + mechanics over map right now
but. Yeah. Wish they would finalise these things before putting it on Evrima

[hexed forge]

Nothing tbh, I think if Don was going to add lore-texts there. He would atleast make it readable, or atleast readable with the mutation- the mutation that doesnt exist yet.

[acoustic osprey]

if it'll ever exist (the mutation)

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

which i doubt it may
it's fun
but pretty useless

[fast forge]

It always felt like a gen 1 thing to me, and could be useful for them

[lethal moat]

I hadn’t really considered gen 1 specific mutations if they get them

[low scarab]

Yea i eagerly await the day don replaces them with actual documents

[acoustic osprey]

but it's fair
the documents do take a lot of work

as much as I'd love to join the team and help so things like that could come faster
first i'm not a paid nor experienced writer in the industry
and I also don't want to ruin the fun of finding and learning lore.

If Don wanted to get someone to help him.
I'd imagine it'd be the same with finding other new devs

Experienced.
but enjoys the theme/idea of The Isle.
Especially someone like a writer

[hexed forge]

I really hope Uga or Jace work on Finalizing the Dock area beforing moving on to the next one. Just so upsetting when walking around the Docks and then you just see you a random plant clipping into the building- weird fence positioning- AHhh, Maybe I just pay too much attention on the details.

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah
even just those little mesh errors on docks

I would've expected them to be fixed at least

like i understand Visual not noticing
but is Jace hammered with tons of different things at once?

or is his fixes in much later dev builds

[hexed forge]

What I find even more upsetting is that the pipe system is a bit useless if you are a small critter like Troodon, constant swimming

[acoustic osprey]

(just troodon)

laugh at the troodon

[hexed forge]

yep.... And we all wanted Troodon to be like the sewer rat of the Docks

[acoustic osprey]

rugops...

[lethal moat]

Young omni does it better

[hexed forge]

Troodon cooler tho

[low scarab]

Agreed

[lethal moat]

Omniraptor has it's whole dock correlation thing though

[hexed forge]

Because they climb ontop of containers and lurk in human buildings.

Give us sewer rat troodon

Both