#isle-lore-theories

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acoustic osprey
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i suppose that'll be a job for us Gen2s

snow jasper
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yes

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cant track em all

acoustic osprey
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sure
but they don't seem to cause as much havoc at least

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ironic how the supposed "tracked" creatures are the most unlooked creatures

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looking at AUGUSTUS and the Rex siblings
both underlooked

snow jasper
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probably for the better no?

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from a different perspective

acoustic osprey
snow jasper
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how come

acoustic osprey
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trying to find a quote that relates to this, oh well

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but no
it's an ironic aspect

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but from our point of view, it's not better for AE

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the synths are more anomalous - AE doesn't really understand this (yet, at least ||however the timeline is||)

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you'd preferably want to know more and understand more of your creatures like them

acoustic osprey
lethal moat
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And can it tie into gen 1 sacrifices

glacial wave
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you guys roleplaying orr...?

lethal moat
glacial wave
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it does

glacial wave
lethal moat
# glacial wave where can i start?

There’s this, there’s also a lore server and a podcast, and a few decent yt channels, the main one being Lightclaw https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

glacial wave
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damn bro, i gotta get a whole ass meal for this

lethal moat
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There’s a lot (and we currently know very little)

lethal moat
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I imagine sabotaging the monorail could be particularly devastating

hexed forge
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Those were the tracking chip numbers.

acoustic osprey
hexed forge
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Would it be confusing tho 🤔

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How would it be?

acoustic osprey
hexed forge
acoustic osprey
hexed forge
acoustic osprey
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it's extra hassle
more work
set up for more confusion

acoustic osprey
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it's easier when, say, a person has several identification systems/numbers
because they have a proper memory and ability to recall

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but not every creature would/could be an EIP

acoustic osprey
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unless, for the chiptracking system, it would ONLY show dinosaurs from a specific species / dataset

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ugh you have reminded me

hexed forge
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You could use the secondary system as a way to double check if x asset IS x asset. Check if the tracking numbers match with insert asset on paper. A way to reassure I guess.

hexed forge
acoustic osprey
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kinda wish we didn't get a proper one TI_LUL

because it won't be accurate anymore

acoustic osprey
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unless each dinosaur species only work in a specific frequency

hexed forge
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AE Chiptracking System > Species > Diabloceratops

Maybe like that

hexed forge
acoustic osprey
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but
i cannot say IT IS 100% true

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we don't know what the full video actually looks like

hexed forge
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Yeah true

acoustic osprey
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and the map won't be canon/accurate anymore
so things could change

fast forge
# hexed forge AE Chiptracking System > Species > Diabloceratops Maybe like that

For what it's worth, in my work we use multiple identification numbers

  • Each animal has an ID created when that individual animal is first added to the database
  • Batches or cohorts of animals get a Lot # (like in manufacturing a product) showing they belong to this or that study
  • The cage the animal lives in gets a number
  • When they get tagged/chipped, that tag has a pre-programmed number created by the tag manufacturer
hexed forge
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Makes sense

fast forge
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So multiple cages might all have the same lot number
Multiple animals might have the same cage number
And then each individual animal has an ID number, but we don't tag them all so they don't all get tag numbers

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I imagine the breeding stock of diablos may not have chiptracking data because they all just sit in a pen on another island

hexed forge
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oh god why is the screenshot blurry

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Heres just a screenshot on the important part since snipping tool is refusing to comply.

elder notch
hexed forge
elder notch
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ok ty

bold crater
gusty fern
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The isle lore images are so high quality

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tbh all things coming from the isle lore is high quality as hell

lethal moat
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Very nice

hexed forge
lethal moat
iron anchor
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Lol lore for why the herbi’s hate everyone

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hangry

hexed forge
ornate comet
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I heard some ambience that sounded like a allo broadcast, but I had to use xbox gamebar to record it because I didnt have medal open

hexed forge
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So wheres the recording? TI_delete_this

ornate comet
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im getting to it shhh

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idk if discord is gonna complain about file size

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idk if I can trim it down so your gonna see my steam friends list TI_DeinoBruh

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ignore all that in the beginning and the end

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tell me in not crazy I beg you lol

hexed forge
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Yep, thats an allo.

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Allo has been in the ambience recently

ornate comet
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yay im not crazy.....at least in this situation

snow jasper
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this is the first clear recording of it
not going to apologise to the people i thought were crazy

but the allo doesn't sound as much of an allo as it used to be

snow jasper
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that lighting is on point tho fr

acoustic osprey
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of course

muted reef
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I just wish I could hear ambience

acoustic osprey
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have you tried turning up the volume ...

muted reef
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It's maxed

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I get nothing other than crickets

hexed forge
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Put on some headphones

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Maybe that will help

muted reef
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I use only headphones

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It's a well known bug you get no ambience

acoustic osprey
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weird
I actually get ambience

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well
until it goes away then comes back again

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but that was intention - at least, it was said on stream in 2020 to be intentional

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(am going to quote a tiny paragraph i sent to lorecord)

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i remember Dondi talking about it on stream in 2020
how he said they'll be times it goes very quiet
which is just terrible/mishandled design of the bioacoustics of the isle's forests
this frequency displays show the time throughout the day in a relatively healthy forest
over time

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there is ALWAYS frequencies being used by the environment
especially in a TROPICAL environment
it's harder to do
but we also know animals in a forest share frequencies
i.e.
"X" bird species will use "X" Hz
"Y" Bird species will use a (close but different) "Y" Hz
but
a completely different animal type
like a mammal
would fit in the niche a completely unique Hz range

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which is what you see, basically, when the birds (dawn chorus) start chirping in whilst the insects of the pre-dawn chorus are still rattling

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BUT

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it is worth mentioning
this IS the bioacoustices of a healthy forest.

We do NOT know the complete 'natural' health of Gateway's forests

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however

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a degraded forest you might have a lot of sound, but not occupying as much of the spectrum

acoustic osprey
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you don't just get silence.

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More so
you get a chaotic display of animal sounds with no equality of frequency

snow jasper
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Oh, the times where the ambience just cuts out is intentional?
I know this one tribe in sumatra which said, theres a bird that goes quiet when a predator is near
its the insects that continue to make up the ambient

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but even then, the insects only make a noise a certain time of day

acoustic osprey
hexed forge
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Interesting

acoustic osprey
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i don't mind times going "quiet"
but it's just overly minimal for something that's relatively unrealistic

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it does have a nice horror vibe to it though

snow jasper
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im going to thailand soon anyways and i'll be in the proper wilderness, i still believe a healthy forest can go silent

acoustic osprey
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but it's still pretty random

acoustic osprey
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even in thailand
I went around a lot there in July

their forests a still pretty active
unless you're at a highway / major road

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then you're just fed the swooshing the cars

snow jasper
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I will hold you to that claim as I am certain otherwise

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But again, majority of the time, forests are pretty active

acoustic osprey
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very much so

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you'll only really see a quiet forest, if at all, if it is unhealthy
especially with nearby human intervention

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but you'd be surprised
tropical forests don't care as much as temperate

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but that's just because of the amount of life tropical forests bring is just crazy

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but it's very cool to study the bioacoustics of such

snow jasper
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Isaac, do you know about the theory that when you place a drop of ink or food dye in a glass of water
if that glass was to never dry out and remain intact to the death of the universe, there will be a split moment when all the particles simultaneously undiffuse into the water

Im guessing that happens in healthy forests, where sure, the plants may appear very diverse, but all the insects and animals coincidentally move away from a specific area in the forest

acoustic osprey
snow jasper
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Not really, something like this

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1st image is the initial state of the glass
2nd shows it after diffusing out into the glass
3rd image just coincidentally happens that most, if not all particles congregated at one area of the glass

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for something like this to happen, the particles would have to be the same weight, viscosity etc

but in an ecosystem, those rules dont apply, as all the animals are free flowing in a area of land, the animals are the particles, and the jungle is the water

acoustic osprey
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what's alike stays alike

snow jasper
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yeah

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so a forest could just as easily have small pockets where the density of noise emitting organisms just doesn't exist at that given area at that given time creating said eerie environment

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but it would be incredibly rare and entirely coincidental

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im really annoyed i cant find the origin of this idea

acoustic osprey
# snow jasper for something like this to happen, the particles would have to be the same weigh...

I'd say this is 50/50
All animals do migrate to some degree, definitely
Some animals moving more than others - but, over time, all animals still 'move' (whether that be forced or willingly due to many reasons such as the environment, etc)

But to get the chance where all animals move away.
That all animals decided to not stay in their protected habitat
would be both incredibly rare but also very dangerous for all animals

that, for animal to do it, one of the only reasons they would do such is if you do something like putting some ink into the glass - by turning the healthy environment / the ecosystem into an unhealthy and disrupted location by placing a foreign entity of any degree into/next to the localised environment.
This would especially be the case with regular to large human intervention; especially within the fields of noise, smell and physicality.

^animals aren't fully absurdly chaotic
but
more so orderly chaotic - insert fractals, the ripple effect.

I'd say there may be the chance of a location with minimal noise
but that would be far more regular/easier to obtain in a more steppe or taiga (desert-esque temperate) environment.
however, i would never wager an almost completely silent situation.
The animals don't just interact with the animals in the graph - they also interact with the sound of nature itself

For example the rain section at night on the graph
Which we see all the insects fading away - being humbled by the falling of rain

If anything.
I'd have this as a very rare moment in the game - like the eclipse
but it does happen way too much for my liking

snow jasper
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I guess the only areas where it'd make sense for quiet to occur with added chance and frequency would have to be the no mans land between the human world and the animal world.
In gateway's case, maybe along GUTS and maybe less so for the roads

acoustic osprey
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I would love if Wedge and the programmers have it so
the "overworld" is pretty populated with natural sounds
even in a human area

but
once you're in GUTS ||and even in Tartarus||
you have this completely juxtaposed sound design

true silence.

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heck
maybe even GUTS have some electric static

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I preferably want Tartarus to be the most juxtaposed thing in the game TI_LUL

complete silence
bright white interior

snow jasper
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Backroom ambience playing on the fourth level, penultimate from Tartarus

acoustic osprey
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but.
That's assuming i know anything on what Tartarus could be for Isle.

Which I DON'T
nor was there really anything in Legacy that I could relate on

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i just ideally would love that
"Oh crap ... this doesn't feel right" horror moment

snow jasper
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I live right beside train tracks, thankfully its not like a city subway but they make weird click clack about 5 or 10 minutes prior to a passing train

acoustic osprey
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fair lol

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i have very slight tinnitus
I do love the environment
but i always have my window open - i live next to a main road (not a proper city road, but it get's busy a tiny bit)

so i don't mind the background noise of the cars swooshing by

snow jasper
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Though, I for the longest while, during winter when the trees are bare, find myself hypnotised by these pair of red glowing lights that look directly into my window
they're apart of the tracks but its very off

snow jasper
acoustic osprey
snow jasper
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Where abouts in Australia are you from?

lethal moat
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What the hell did I miss?

acoustic osprey
snow jasper
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I always thought the very south eastern coast got cold in winter

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I see

acoustic osprey
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not as bad as thailand though lol

snow jasper
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Oh, London doesn't get any weather at all lol
Winters are just cold, and its bearable except for a couple weeks a year

acoustic osprey
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"oh no it's going to rain today"
... no it just rained for 5 mins ... enjoy the rest of the warm and sunny day!

snow jasper
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It quite literally is grey skies in the UK

acoustic osprey
snow jasper
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Oh, in that case, yeah

acoustic osprey
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I remember living there
sunny one day
raining the next - then, during the day, windy but cloudy
then sunny again.

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exactly like Melbourne

acoustic osprey
snow jasper
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We recently did have a freak snow day some random april a couple years ago

acoustic osprey
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lol

snow jasper
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No snow all winter, comes spring and it snows

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but this summer was miserable, like we only just got sun this month

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and now summer is already ending

acoustic osprey
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sounds fun

snow jasper
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No, its the worst kind of overcast, like no texture in the clouds at all

lethal moat
fast forge
snow jasper
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not suprised, same sort of latitude i suppose

hexed forge
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Ignore

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What I notice is that the ranger stations are always marked as multiple small buildings on this map.

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Which means we could assume where the rest of the "Ranger stations" will be on the map.

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For example this looks like a ranger station

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And this, on Britian

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A lot of these "Ranger stations" on the map TI_LUL

acoustic osprey
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And "h4" is just a facility
Not a ranger station

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Which is interesting

hexed forge
acoustic osprey
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No further left

hexed forge
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I dont see that as H4.

acoustic osprey
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It just cool like a gate system

hexed forge
# hexed forge This?

Me and Tiny had a discussion about this one.

This seems like it could be H4. Rather than the big one on the left.

acoustic osprey
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Not what was shown of "h4" in the Augustus video

hexed forge
acoustic osprey
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Which had a proper ranger station interior

acoustic osprey
acoustic osprey
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Already commented in that would be the area last year

hexed forge
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hmm

acoustic osprey
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But as a ranger station
On that map
It doesn't match up

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Being said though
The interior comes from shots of other ranger stations... anyways...

hexed forge
acoustic osprey
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I should make a video on how 1:1 the ranger stations are in respected to the map

In terms of their layout and actual physical placement

hexed forge
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Mmm, yes.

acoustic osprey
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But

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Dibble video...

turbid egret
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Do we know the area don showed in the stream where he walked as maia

snow jasper
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Which one

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he's played maia twice

turbid egret
snow jasper
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Yes

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The other area iirc was near I12

turbid egret
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It was like a huge human area

snow jasper
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but ofc, nobody likes I12

snow jasper
hexed forge
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Don only played Maia on the Docks tho

snow jasper
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But he didn't

hexed forge
snow jasper
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This was back when dibble wasn't even in HT

hexed forge
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OH

The random jungle

snow jasper
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Yeah i just remembered, it wasn't i12

hexed forge
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Time to geolocate it, brb.

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Why is there no clip TI_TheEndIsNigh

lethal moat
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The other one was on a path just south of the GUTS tunnel at the end of the hallway bridge area

hexed forge
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You might be right yea

obtuse arrow
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Have the devs mentioned if tribals are still planned in the long run? Noticed all of human content all skews to this more Jurassic Park mercenary vibe. Curious what happened with tribal humans.

obtuse arrow
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Are the tribals still happening too or just the cannibals (these concepts just look like the OG cannibal concept to me)?

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I remember in the past there was talk of crafting, base building etc within the context of tribals

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Or do you mean that its all been rolled together meaning the tribals are now these Gen1 alien looking creatures with primitive technology?

sonic rampart
obtuse arrow
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huh

sonic rampart
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And there's been mention of primitive crafting and building for these guys, we'll have to see how it pans out

obtuse arrow
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alright thanks for clearing that up

hexed forge
acoustic osprey
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but they have no official name yet publicly

muted reef
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Tribals = ❌ Gen 1 = ✅ . Cannibals = ❌ Eyeless = ✅ .

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Start this copypasta

acoustic osprey
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Tribals isn't a bad term honestly

muted reef
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You...you...

acoustic osprey
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At least, in contrast to using mercs for gen2s

muted reef
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Gen 1 is supreme

muted reef
lethal moat
muted reef
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What was tribal lore again

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Weren't they native to the island or smth

hexed forge
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Old old tribals were native I think, and then the new tribals were more related to cannibals. Legacy lore changed a lot

hexed forge
snow jasper
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depends what makes someone tribal

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would it be their indigenous factors, cultural, technological or just how civilised they are

hexed forge
snow jasper
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gonk

hexed forge
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Thinking too much

lethal moat
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They are tools

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Not as an insult

hexed forge
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Gen1? Yea. Agreed

hexed forge
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I don't see them as tribals. They are an artificial creature.

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A creature used as a tool

snow jasper
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i see the human in them still

hexed forge
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Disagree.

snow jasper
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they‘re just not us

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and even then, are we so alike gen2s

acoustic osprey
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Tribals were always supposed to be "that" anyways

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Not literal Tribal people of the real world

snow jasper
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orcas have cultures as of recent discovery and each pod had their own language

monkeys give eachother names, which are arguably less advanced intellectually than apes

and bears may be able to appreciate nature

if gen1s can worship, they’re far more advanced than all the aforementioned animals and yet we choose to not see the humanity in them

hexed forge
hexed forge
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I forget the exact quote

acoustic osprey
snow jasper
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nevertheless, gen1 would likely be 2nd down from homo sapiens

acoustic osprey
hexed forge
hexed forge
knotty locust
muted reef
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It was just brought to the game

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A placeholder

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Like how the AI in the game are

lethal moat
acoustic osprey
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As a very rough system

acoustic osprey
acoustic osprey
# lethal moat Explain

We see the same with the dinos
I don't believe it'll be different for the human factions

Especially since we know humans have genitals

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It may be the case Gen1s are infertile

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But we're yet to see as of this moment

lethal moat
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I feel like allowing a weapon to reproduce and expand entirely on it's own would be disasterous

acoustic osprey
fast forge
acoustic osprey
fast forge
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Gen 1 could have frog DNA TI_Troll

acoustic osprey
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(The Replicator does what it likes)

lethal moat
fast forge
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good, makes them scarier

acoustic osprey
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Like
It's a very grey area

lethal moat
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I believe AE would prefer to have more control over gen 1 than the dinosaurs due to different mission objectives

fast forge
formal venture
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It should be said that gen 1 were attempts to make humans, things just changed them to gen 1

formal venture
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They weren't intended to be so monsterous

lethal moat
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Depends who you ask

acoustic osprey
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And look what Don has said with synths

lethal moat
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Alright

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Weapons deserve more control than animals

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So says Rumple

acoustic osprey
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Still

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We don't know how 1:1 they are as 'weapons'

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As a descriptor

fast forge
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and we don't know if they've changed since AE lost control

lethal moat
acoustic osprey
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Yeah
Timeline stuff makes it more confusing / harder to decipher

acoustic osprey
formal venture
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They were intended as humans first, weapons second

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Like gen 2

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That's my take anyway

fast forge
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They could have re-evolved reproduction for all we know

formal venture
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intended if they are now used as living nukes then sure

fast forge
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or as Isaac said, replicator shenanigans

formal venture
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But the plan by AE was the same as gen 2

lethal moat
fast forge
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we don't know if what we've seen is what AE had

lethal moat
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I'm of the opinion that gen 1 were always intended to eventually be a weapon, even if they had gotten something closer to gen 2, first try

formal venture
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Gen 2 are used as clone soldiers to deal with dinosaurs ( unless I missed anything)
It should imply that that was a similar idea to what gen 1 would have been

lethal moat
formal venture
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With just hunting knives and a torch

lethal moat
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I'm of the opinion
Gen 1 ~ Guard dogs and hunting dogs
Gen 2 ~ soldiers and body replacments

lethal moat
formal venture
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I know it's for balance, but why in lore can't AE give gen 2 guns from the start

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They went broke or something

lethal moat
formal venture
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Makes sense

blissful sun
formal venture
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They weren't meant to look like monsters, but it's likely they weren't planning on a true homo sapien

lethal moat
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You can have something go wrong and then still use that thing for an alternative purpose

formal venture
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Agreed

lethal moat
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A flattened spoon is a spatula
Or I could be entirely wrong and gen 1 are exactly what was intended since the beginning

formal venture
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I doubt they were meant to be what we have be shown

lethal moat
formal venture
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But given they can't really be killed, AE
Just uses them because they can

muted reef
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What could have been...the Isle Legacy completed edition

formal venture
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We serve lore here sir.

lethal moat
robust ether
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what did i miss

lethal moat
muted reef
lethal moat
formal venture
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Repilcator just brings them back though

lethal moat
muted reef
lethal moat
muted reef
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Would it listen

formal venture
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Can't really do it now

lethal moat
robust ether
lethal moat
muted reef
lethal moat
muted reef
acoustic osprey
muted reef
formal venture
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Probably does given it can favour certain Dino's and gen 1

acoustic osprey
muted reef
acoustic osprey
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I'm thinking we might want to be on the look out of the video description and location itself of the content

robust ether
acoustic osprey
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And the context itself

robust ether
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OH A STREAM

acoustic osprey
robust ether
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actually i need to finish that

muted reef
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I had one of the goofiest dreams back when update 2 was gonna drop. I was imagining that the update released and I got to play it and it was frickin trippy...god I miss those days

acoustic osprey
acoustic osprey
formal venture
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I once had a dream where dilos had night vision removed

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Not nerfed, removed

muted reef
acoustic osprey
robust ether
muted reef
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Either way what is it

robust ether
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oh god its 3 hours long

acoustic osprey
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Which I had in a dream lol

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Ain't telling but it's nothing special

muted reef
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Lmao

acoustic osprey
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I want to try it when I get home

muted reef
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Why not tell

acoustic osprey
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NOOO

lethal moat
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Lets write down highly debated lore to discuss
Replicator sentience
Gen 1 humanity
Gen 1 intentional or nay

muted reef
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Shall we try the wheel

acoustic osprey
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I believe they were intentional
Insert the Don quote from last month

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But the humanity question is super hard

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Mostly because that's more a philosophy debate

muted reef
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I think they're people but not human

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They are not of the Homo genus, they did not evolve from there

lethal moat
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I think they are neither people, nor human

robust ether
muted reef
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Actually now that I think about it you're right they're still not people lmao I was thinking of gen 2

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Gen 2 are people but not human

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Gen 1 are neither

robust ether
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ITS NOT HIS FAULT HIS FACE IS BUILT LIKE THAT

muted reef
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Why are the teeth protruding as if there was damage

robust ether
muted reef
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He just needs some lip balm

robust ether
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gum balm

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wait those teeth must be so dry

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yikes

lethal moat
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Ultra Specialized gen 1, like ants TI_MinmiBongo

muted reef
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Yeah why is all of that tissue missing in the jaw area

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The cheeks and lips

lethal moat
muted reef
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Why would there be tissue missing?

robust ether
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do you think they have something closer to human tongues or something closer to alligator tongues...?

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the real questions

muted reef
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I never thought of them having tongues lmao

robust ether
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i still dont understand how they drink water

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they have no lips and side mouth holes

robust ether
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that seems unfortunate :[

muted reef
robust ether
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glug glug glug glug

lethal moat
robust ether
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so i have to handle them with gloves TI_Dilothink

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well, ideally i guess

muted reef
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Funny how gen 1 looks like a rotting human

robust ether
#

we've only seen the two gen 1 heads right?

#

k

acoustic osprey
lethal moat
acoustic osprey
robust ether
lethal moat
#

What if
More gen 1 types

acoustic osprey
#

in the future, yes

robust ether
#

is that John Isle TI_HomaSurprised

acoustic osprey
#

JOHN CAKE TI_LetsGo

robust ether
#

cant prove its him until he turns around

#

until i see proof that's just a man

acoustic osprey
#

lol

muted reef
lethal moat
muted reef
#

I don't really see the benifit of having no eyes

lethal moat
#

Where's the sniffer gen 1

#

All shnoz

muted reef
#

Whats the point of no eyes

lethal moat
#

Maybe the hearing part of the brain is bigger so their eyes just had no purpose

muted reef
#

Less brain effort or smth

acoustic osprey
#

you involve less your visuals
and more your other senses

muted reef
#

Heightened senses every where else

#

Just like real blind people

dawn arch
#

Omni eats eyeless

#

Wait do eyeless eat dinos?

acoustic osprey
#

we'll have to see

lethal moat
#

Just keep replicating branches of gen 1 until you get the roles you want

#

Soldier, Worker, Maintainer, Sentry, etc

muted reef
#

I wonder if mutations will be a part of that

acoustic osprey
#

i can see that

muted reef
#

Speaking of are the rainwater mutations usefull rn is weather still bugged?

strange shell
lethal moat
#

I hope so

lethal moat
muted reef
lethal moat
#

Gen 1 customization being a fun thing for you to choose as the player, using the replicator to evolve into whatever varienty you may choose, even if the traits don't line up with physical characterstics, or they might, who knows

#

Gen 1 being a marriage of gen 2 and mutations also sounds interesting, find the required materials to give the replicator what it wants in order to give you upgrades/mutations

muted reef
#

Strain gen 1 I need

lethal moat
strange shell
#

Should replace "DISEASE" with "[REDACTED]"

acoustic osprey
#

lol

lethal moat
#

Yes

lethal moat
#

You know a good gen 1 testing ground? Volcanic atoll with zero vegetation

acoustic osprey
#

why would this be so

lethal moat
# acoustic osprey why would this be so

Less places for them to hide, easy to monitor, and if you intend to use them to defend/attack human structures you can create testing structures there with various baits and substitutes

strange shell
acoustic osprey
#

i see Gen1s needing to perform and excel in more hidden areas

lethal moat
lethal moat
lethal moat
acoustic osprey
#

you risk such product them

#

either, one, you set up great security for a product that you know will almost always succeed

lethal moat
acoustic osprey
#

or you, two, don't need to set up large security measures as you know your product will not be as effective
as you're playing, more so, a numbers game

"we don't need them to succeed individually - we just need enough numbers to overcome"

lethal moat
#

If you’re testing them, I feel a barren environment so you can control factors would be better, if you’re actually utilizing them, they should be suited to a variety of environments

acoustic osprey
#

which would make sense with the reference to them being a retaliatory product

strange shell
#

What if
AE had a way to make Gen1 non-hostile to them
It makes everything simpler

acoustic osprey
strange shell
#

Like, instead of having to deal with uncontrollable murder-monsters that will kill you if you approach them, tune Gen1 to react positively to a specific set of pheromones, and douse employees who are supposed to interact with them in those pheromones

acoustic osprey
lethal moat
strange shell
acoustic osprey
#

we know they're not really a military company
I don't really see AE really selling these things

#

especially since we know these things are used against AE's rivals

#

why sell your greatest asset

acoustic osprey
lethal moat
acoustic osprey
#

rather than product made to sell to enact/allow companies(people) to have revenge

lethal moat
#

Gen 2 potentially being that intended product, gen 1 being a useful stepping stone on the way

acoustic osprey
#

I could see that if the Don quote didn't refer to retaliatory
it just seems odd

#

if it was just a product originally
which turned unfinished
so now they use them as a deterrent

that would make (at least a lot more) sense

strange shell
acoustic osprey
#

not referring to deterrent though

#

the time line would be

product (however such product was - being a product of revenge or an actual selling product) then -> deterrent

#

however long in between

#

like with AE starting with botany

acoustic osprey
#

however, like with botany, they may be still such
i.e. AE still doing botany (as we can see with the dibble video)

acoustic osprey
#

which i do wonder how it'll be expressed in-game and in lore documents

#

seeing as literally every date we could have is blacked out
besides the roadmap date range
and ERRANT-291 (after we deciphered it)

lethal moat
acoustic osprey
#

but i don't doubt that either something internal or external changed AE's goal/short-term goal for them

lethal moat
#

Right

acoustic osprey
#

heck, can't remember, but did Don infer this?

#

with something, for example, TOMB

lethal moat
#

Idk, I’m sleepy and heading to bed soon, but gen 2 being the intended product, or at least close to it, with gen 1 being guard/attack dog equivalents makes sense to me

acoustic osprey
#

if not, it may be so.
But who knows.
There's a terrible amount of things that may of changed with such over time

lethal moat
acoustic osprey
#

and i don't imagine everyone would be the same over the years
new people and new ideas coming in, etc

#

who knows what AE looks like from the beginning to the end

#

which i kinda hope we see with each playable island

#

sounds very grand - like once the whole 'artwork' is done

random copper
#

do you think the playable islands are set in different time periods or the same?

acoustic osprey
#

but different (not completely different- but an evolving) architectural style over time, etc

acoustic osprey
random copper
#

oh neat

acoustic osprey
#

basically as if we're playing on different pockets on the time line per map

acoustic osprey
#

"There is no island that has Gen 1s, Gen 2s, dinosaurs and standard functional human beings on it inside of the story. It does not exist. It has not happened. If it does happen, I've certainly have no written it yet
So you may get a game that has all of that, there is no melting pot of AE's ideas where all of them get shoved into the same thing
So while the gameplay is being supported, it's not just 'oh hey here's an island, it has all of these things on it' it doesn't work like that.

No. The game is not 'non-canonical', it's more so you're gonna get a lens to see various chunks of islands and stories that get told"

^ this is the quote by the way

#

we may not get a super wide range
like having one island at the beginning of them making dinos and one at the end

#

it's more so you're gonna get a lens to see various chunks of islands and stories that get told"
But this quote basically makes it sounds like it won't be 1:1 all islands exactly at the same time in-lore

formal venture
#

Just read this, made me think that there will be some earlier point island which has more structures for humans at the cost of dinosaurs like rucops, dilos, Utah and anything Tisso related

lethal moat
#

Islands without dinosaurs elmofire

formal venture
#

That would actually make sense for some heavy realism community server that has humans

acoustic osprey
#

honestly, i can imagine the Hunting Reserve being one of the only "still active/before the big shebang" map

formal venture
#

It would be nice, maybe that's the one with that one quetz in its concept art

acoustic osprey
#

mmmm

formal venture
#

Just a thought anyway

acoustic osprey
#

thought doesn't hurt
We'll just have to find out TI_Succ soon

lethal moat
#

Evrima main branch tho

formal venture
#

Another flipaclip art for the maybe hunting island, tried making it a bit higher quality

lethal moat
#

You know what would be really cool? Named human characters

acoustic osprey
#

what do you mean [REDACTED] is a great name!
And ERRANT-291 !!!!

lethal moat
acoustic osprey
#

lol

acoustic osprey
#

I'd imagine
Being that Gateway is 16x16

a hunting reserve being relatively small
maybe not Thenyaw small
but smaller than V3

#

roughly 8x8 would be pretty good

#

but
we'd need to test such though lol

#

if you make it more like a TheHunter game
definitely giving time and pace to it
and up and a down

but you'd want to focus on hunting with surviving
not past faced shooting

formal venture
#

I imagine some maps will suit humans more than others

#

My custom map, or whatever early timeline map comes up will be pro human most lit

acoustic osprey
#

mmmmhmmm

formal venture
#

Ight, this is my idea for the timeline between islands (idk spiros lore so I probably got that wrong)

acoustic osprey
#

Spiro is a 50/50, yeah

#

it'll likely be fully trashed
but as a lore entity? Might exist in some degree

#

things don't just die, it seems

formal venture
#

Yeah all I know about the maps is that gateway leads to TARTARUS and people didn't like Spiros's cliffs

#

I mean the isle community, not AE

acoustic osprey
#

lol

strange shell
#

Replicator goes 🟥

low scarab
fast forge
#

I made a lot of progress on my morse code video yesterday TI_ParaBaby

#

Cerato gets a mention as the person who thought of the idea

#

although I accidentally said someone else when I recorded the audio, so the edit for that is funny TI_LUL

formal venture
#

Me 3 years ago learning the funny Dino game has lore:

hexed forge
lethal moat
#

How relevant is the replicator watching through cameras still?

hexed forge
#

Doubt its relevant.

#

But maybeee

lethal moat
#

I think it's still relevant, especially if the camera footage on the main menu become a thing

hexed forge
#

I hope Officials have the canon roster.

muted reef
#

Do I have the green light to draft someoneidk into the team

hexed forge
#

Hes already in.

#

Wait nvm

#

If they want to ye

muted reef
#

If you come in this channel you prepare to be drafted by thy Catag

fast forge
#

drafted into the dino holy wars

lethal moat
#

I'm doing my part!

lethal moat
#

My interpretation of a current gen 1 altar

#

It's very portable and handy for convenience

#

Just need to find a camera

lethal moat
#

They are doing very good at surviving Z_CatShakeYes

iron anchor
#

ae was farnsworth all this time

crystal cairn
fast forge
#

"structural abnormalities" is so broad

hexed forge
#

Yea

fast forge
#

Is it new unauthorized buildings? Gen 1 crafted stuff?
Or is it damage to existing structures, like the holes punched through the concrete base of some hyper fences?

lethal moat
fast forge
# fast forge

whatever location name is in that first line, it is very short

hexed forge
#

Looks like 3-4 digits

muted reef
#

1999 TI_Troll

lethal moat
#

my immediate thought was GUTS

#

Possibly not tho

muted reef
#

291

fast forge
lethal moat
#

That censorship in this word is pretty thin

fast forge
lethal moat
#

This too

fast forge
lethal moat
#

Location designations I would imagine

muted reef
#

Would be funny if it was just a typo

hexed forge
#

Doubt its a typo

fast forge
lethal moat
#

Ohh

hexed forge
#

Don probably looks over the documents multiple times before releasing them.

lethal moat
muted reef
#

I said it'd be funny not that it was an actual typo, but yeah it's strange

muted reef
fast forge
muted reef
#

Maybe the single ones are like the south tunnels, very surface level, and the others are deep

hexed forge
#

We know there are multiple levels of GUTS, so perhaps.

fast forge
muted reef
#

Maybe a checkpoint

hexed forge
muted reef
#

I was about to say lmao

#

How deep is it

hexed forge
#

Right on the water surface level

lethal moat
fast forge
#

Love Isaac's file naming conventions here TI_LUL

hexed forge
#

It makes sense, easy way to distribute supplies and assets across the island from Docks.

hexed forge
lethal moat
hexed forge
lethal moat
hexed forge
#

Oooo

fast forge
#

I think these first docks are just the first of many
Monorail probably goes out to the big docks on the big southeast island

lethal moat
#

I hope so

hexed forge
#

It could also be an airstrip, or both.

#

(Talking about the Southeast island)

hexed forge
#

@ornate comet

ornate comet
#

I HAVE ARRIVED

hexed forge
#

Whats supposed to be here? (North of Water Access)

#

Hm, perhaps the Dock was moved over here? (The D-10 Dock)

fast forge
hexed forge
#

uhhh

#

East of D10

muted reef
#

Doubt it

fast forge
#

the weird sandbar

hexed forge
#

Yep

fast forge
#

I think there will still be a dock in that spot, not sure how big it will be or if it will reach to the sandbar

fast forge
median shuttle
hexed forge
#

We saw Don flattening out the NW Ridge area on stream before, maybe he was setting it up for some future changes. TI_babyPara

fast forge
ornate comet
fast forge
#

concept map

hexed forge
fast forge
#

Feels like 70-80% accurate, from what we've seen in game and upcoming

hexed forge
#

Mhm

lethal moat
#

I will say, based on the map that we saw on stream, it's more accurate than I thought it would be

hexed forge
fast forge
#

oh hey, "swamp road"

hexed forge
#

Now I wonder if they will remove North dome and East dome

muted reef
#

You think they're only gonna have perimeter?

hexed forge
#

And South Dome

#

I dont think South Dome is gone completely

#

Don could move the South Dome up here.

muted reef
#

I doubt they're removing all but 2 (with one of those 2 already gone)

fast forge
low scarab
#

Ahhh I like it when people talk about the old map concept

#

Everyone seems to hate it for some reason lol

lethal moat
#

I'm skeptical of it, but I am more interested in the largest areas now

low scarab
#

I think one of the reasons the old map concept is cool is just all the human buildings it makes sense that it would have a little more infrastructure than we have now

hexed forge
hexed forge
fast forge
# muted reef Wdym suspended in the air?

in the stream you could see south dome floating in the sky
I think he just changed the Z value, so he keeps it in the same place but can work on the ground underneath/around the dome, and then change the z value back to bring it down to the ground

muted reef
#

Oh in the stream

hexed forge
#

I would love the South Dome to be flooded ngl

fast forge
#

he extended the swamp, but to the area south of the dome

hexed forge
#

No...hold on

muted reef
#

Dude swamp is gonna be frickin huge now

hexed forge
#

Wait, how the heck did I miss this.

#

Pictures of the pipe system. TI_Wheeze

low scarab
lethal moat
hexed forge
#

Im not going insane right? Am I the only one that didnt see those images?

muted reef
#

I aint ever seen those

hexed forge
fast forge
low scarab
# lethal moat Things change

Well it still gives us an idea of what they want and this concept seems to show that they want many points of interests especially in weird human structures

lethal moat
hexed forge
fast forge
#

ohhhh

hexed forge
#

It seems like its multiple pipes in one area, doesnt look like the Docks.

fast forge
low scarab
fast forge
#

nah it's those docks

hexed forge
#

I dont think he just changed the Z value.

fast forge
hexed forge
# hexed forge Soo back to this.

This literally shows a ravine thingy that connects SP and the new Swamps area, fair to say he wont bring it down in the exact same spot.

hexed forge
hexed forge
#

Mmmm, yea

fast forge
#

dunno about that other line he drew though

lethal moat
#

I hope gen 2 have some sort of watercraft like in the deinocheirus concept

hexed forge
#

Same

lethal moat
craggy ice
#

When I think of gen 2, all I can picture is deinos getting gunned down as they walk from the ocean to a pond

hexed forge
#

Hahha lol

lethal moat
#

I picture a montage of the same dude dying like, 80 times

low scarab
low scarab
lethal moat
#

Mr. Blue sky in the background

low scarab
#

Amazing

#

I’ll be the first lol

craggy ice
lethal moat
#

I do like that ravine that goes to the Swamps tunnel, expanding that, as well as potentially a stream or something could be really cool

fast forge
lethal moat
#

That map very conveniently only shows the surface, a underground map would be cool, even if it’s not to scale, just show what’s connected where

#

Maps are good, maps are fun

acoustic osprey
low scarab
acoustic osprey
#

Yay

lethal moat
#

I’d also love more funky terrain for things like ptera, sea stacks and lighthouse would be fantastic I’ll take 5 please

fast forge
hexed forge
#

West Access is a strictly human area tho.. soo woulddd there be a nesting ground there TI_Dilothink

#

(Stated by Filipe)

fast forge
fast forge
#

came up around the human buildings

lethal moat
fast forge
#

ugh
why does it have to look so good but be in that movie

low scarab
#

With an ominous flickering light

lethal moat
#

Lighthouses are cool

#

Always turns on in storms

hexed forge
fast forge
lethal moat
#

I wonder what AE emergency procedure is on gateway, because you can’t evacuate outside on a dinosaur infested island

hexed forge
#

GUTS emergency routes/tunnels used specifically for emergencies only perhaps.

lethal moat
#

Maybe

hexed forge
#

How confident is AE in their emergency procedures against some of their dangerous assets? Are they 100% sure it will work? Have they tested it?

hexed forge
#

Let's use The Matriarch as an example. It's only 1 singular asset. How would they test their lethal procedures on it?

#

Could they just make another Matriarch?

#

Well I gotta go now, I will check any replies to my statement tmr. TI_HerraHowdy

lethal moat
hexed forge
lethal moat
hexed forge
#

But how will AE know if the weapons the elite unit uses actually work on The Matriarch TI_WeSmart

#

Anyways ima head out now, adios

muted reef
muted reef
#

I need someone to mod sorna and the other islands into the game

sweet sparrow
#

Can someone explain to me why or how the hypos were created

#

I don’t want to blow up the main chat with stupid questions

lethal moat
sweet sparrow
#

interesting

neon gorge
lethal moat
#

Does anybody else agree with me that EIPs should be used to treat your body like a set of tools? Doing different things with different bodies because you can, provided your consciousness keeps it together on the way

#

Sort of kinda like possession, but more technology based

acoustic osprey
lethal moat
#

Humans are very poorly designed for certain tasks, AE potentially has the ability to create new bodies for people

lethal moat
#

You are not your body, you just inhabit it as a tool (body not counting the brain)

snow jasper
#

lore theories has been very philosophical as of late

formal venture
#

I was going to say something, but I forgot.

lethal moat
acoustic osprey
snow jasper
#

i would not say some topics have been ethical

hexed forge
hexed forge
#

Not human!!

formal venture
#

Gen 1 is to us what vegan burgers are to cows

acoustic osprey
acoustic osprey
formal venture
#

I'll take my tribal with extra lettuce

lethal moat
random ether
#

isle lore theory: there be dinosaurs

formal venture
lethal moat
#

Which of these patterns would you say is best for raiding a compound

low scarab
#

Or last on bottom

snow jasper
#

none of them

hexed forge
snow jasper
#

i dont think they‘ll be noticeable at first glance anyway

strange shell
low scarab
#

Nah you guys have it wrong having a cool pattern increases compound raiding by 25%

lethal moat
#

Gen 1 with racing stripes

iron anchor
#

gen 1 on fire

#

25% speed boost

lethal moat
#

It would be cool if gen 1 got some sort of body/face paint options, even if they are drawing away from the more tribal aspect

lofty swallow
formal venture
#

E is best but I doubt it will help that much

lethal moat
#

Gen 1 in camo fatigues and nods

formal venture
#

Imagine eyeless just rolling in a mud like some dog to help itself get some human steaks

median shuttle
formal venture
#

Would you pet it?

lethal moat
#

It don’t bite

formal venture
#

It's great at hide and seek!

lethal moat
#

I kind of want gen 1 to make traps to nab gen 2, like the cartoon rope that grabs their ankle thing

lethal moat
#

Exactly

#

Have like, 5 in one spot to nabe a whole group

fast forge
#

I want Gen 1 to have active camouflage like The Predator TI_ParaBaby

bold crater
#

My Gen 1 camouflage painted into the rocks waiting with his trap nearby >:)

hexed forge
#

Constantly tabbing in and out of Islecord every 2 minutes to check for the HT being dropped..

I want the Docks so bad.

fast forge
#

Like maybe they have a bunch of abilities from the dinosaurs

Rugops camouflage
Herrera climbing

lethal moat
#

Give it to tisso, and not predator active camo, chameleon camo

hexed forge
#

Same with Troodon possibly being a byproduct of the N strain, possibly.

fast forge
fast forge
bold crater
#

Oh Rugoflage was mentioned
me want

#

yes me want

#

eeEEEEE

lethal moat
bold crater
#

I know AGES ago, warpaint was mentioned and it'd have actual buffs depending on what type, but it'd wash away in rain/water

lethal moat
#

Sounds nice

bold crater
#

I NEED a black and white face paint....something like this WoW GIF (darn cooldown hold on)

lethal moat
#

Paint it red, red goes fast

bold crater
#

Me want face paint like dat

bold crater
lethal moat
#

Face paint is fun

#

Draw a smiley face on Jimmy’s forehead

bold crater
#

Custom painting would be awesome
but we all know we can't have that because of.....reasons.

lethal moat
#

Smiley face as a default option

#

He might look smiley from an angle

fast forge
# lethal moat

just needs some foundation, a bit of eyeliner, some blush

#

lipstick

lethal moat
#

We can rebuild him, we have the technology

bold crater
#

He tried his best and is proud of his paint

#

🙂

lethal moat
#

10/10

bold crater
acoustic osprey
#

soon

hexed forge
#

A bunch of QA-Shipping-H updates, 3-4 Hordetesting branch updates, Officials dont restart anymore...

#

All of that is enough to feed my insanity levels.

fast forge
robust ether
acoustic osprey
robust ether
acoustic osprey
#

yes

robust ether
#

what monster would do such a wicked thing...

acoustic osprey
#

me

robust ether
#

i still want zombie tissos

lethal moat
#

Tiny was theorizing

lethal moat
robust ether
#

let me get ripped in half by dilos and get up 5 minutes later fr

#

thats extreme but still

lethal moat
#

If you’re disabled, but not entirely eaten, I can be fine with it

hexed forge
#

It can regenerate lost limbs and body parts

lethal moat
#

Down, but not out

#

Need to eat the whole thing to delay regeneration or eventually actually kill it

#

If you’re a human, you can slow it down, but killing it would certainly be a challenge

robust ether
robust ether
#

i really really wish we knew how they plan to balance out the non hyper strains

#

oh hi dondi

lethal moat
#

I don’t know what the monkey paw means TI_Cry

acoustic osprey
#

means
uh
the finger is down

fast forge
robust ether
#

it means his hand is cramping duh, gamed too hard.

lethal moat
fast forge
#

hi Don

lethal moat
#

I love bad things

fast forge
acoustic osprey
lethal moat
#

Bad things are dangerous (or non functional, either way, it’s fun for lore and gameplay)

acoustic osprey
#

or more so
when are our wishes not truly flawed

#

we know more lore
but we also get to know less lore

green crater
hexed forge
lethal moat
#

I should probably put that quote into lorecord

hexed forge
#

What quote?

lethal moat
hexed forge
#

huh

green crater
#

Just a minute ago

fast forge
#

I have wondered if tissos have something to do with donor organs
That could fit with zombies because sometimes that donor flesh is rejected by the immune system, and necrotizes

acoustic osprey
hexed forge
#

I dont think thats lore..

green crater
#

Scroll up lol

acoustic osprey
#

we can't just go running around putting half full quotes into the channel...
or we'll go insane for the 50th time

robust ether
#

lmao

hexed forge
#

Im 95% positive that the gif has no meaning to any lore information lol

hexed forge
acoustic osprey
robust ether