isle-lore-theories

[fast forge]

weird

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[zenith frigate]

i think it sloped down into the water

yup

not much to go off of but the name makes me think its a power plant

[lethal moat]

Same

[fast forge]

or maybe connected to geothermal underground somewhere

[hexed forge]

Something related to power yes

[lethal moat]

CCould be some combination of tidal power as well

[hexed forge]

Perhaps its the main facility that controls all the power on Gateway?

And the thing that goes underwater is a pipe full of.. wires I guess lol

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[fast forge]

or it sends excess power to other islands, if they have a particularly good geothermal plant

was just reading up on geothermal
apparently it uses much less space than solar or wind

[hexed forge]

What if. Both.

[fast forge]

If Gateway is the power plant for their operations on other islands, and Gateway goes down, that would impede their operations elsewhere huh?

potentially

[zenith frigate]

could be a station for the monorails

could be a connection to other islands

[hexed forge]

Doubt.

Its related to power, the name is.

[fast forge]

maybe, but doesn't really match up to the in-game map or concept map

[zenith frigate]

IM REACHING

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[patent ginkgo]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

[lethal moat]

lol

[zenith frigate]

[hexed forge]

oh wow..

https://tenor.com/view/jurrassic-park-jurassic-park-jurassic-park-movie-richard-attenborough-hammond-gif-24925890

I will come back in 10 minutes Jack,

Solve the entire Errant sheet.

[zenith frigate]

damn im good

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-megamind-you-did-it-gif-18211214

[hexed forge]

And Im back after fighting a megamixpack lel

Fought 2 fg stegos, 1 fg dibble, and 2 fg ceras.

Killed the 2 ceras but then the dibble tracked me down. Rip.

[lethal moat]

I feel like we focus on the stationary piece more than we should and not enough on the actual report itself

[hexed forge]

Thats not what I meant

[lethal moat]

Like yeah, abstract map is cool and all, but AE does have the authority to do an autopsy on someone that died on their property

That is not a small amount of legal power

[fast forge]

We don't know what country if any has jurisdiction over the islands

can you do that in international waters?

Also, who's to say they didn't just do it even if it is illegal?

[lethal moat]

They kept a record of it, they must be confident that what they're doing is either legal, justified, or will never be discovered

[fast forge]

nah, people have lots of incriminating documents

shredders exist for a reason

[hexed forge]

I dont think AE would care whether its legal for them to do that or not.

[lethal moat]

People talk in exchange for amnesty, I feel like they just have extraordinary legal freedoms to govern their islands how they see fit
Or they have everyone sign waivers/contracts

[limber frigate]

What’s going on?

[hexed forge]

If Gateway is a secret island, whos gonna know

Especially if Errant was a rival spy.

[hexed forge]

Lore

[lethal moat]

Discussing the amount of legal freedom AE has to act on their own islands, since they did an autopsy on someone who died on their property

[limber frigate]

Oh ooops I thought this was isle discussion oops 😬

[hexed forge]

Nonoono, stay.

[limber frigate]

Okay I guess I could stay and admire lore

[muted reef]

What is topic of choice

[lethal moat]

What type do you want

[hexed forge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit
read

[muted reef]

I think we recruit

[zenith frigate]

the entire thing
right now

[hexed forge]

Not yet.

[muted reef]

I've recruited people who know less

[lethal moat]

My point is, AE has some insane freedoms that you don't really see (assuming 291 isn't just company property)

[hexed forge]

Or what they are doing is completely illegal and they dont have the right to do it, but,

Whose gonna know?

[lethal moat]

I don't think AE knowingly directly violates criminal or civil law, otherwise what's the point in trying to make a product if you can't explain how you got it or what it does?

[lethal moat]

Anyone they try to sell to

[hexed forge]

How?

[lethal moat]

You usually need to register something to sell it, and governments and people like to know what they're buying

[hexed forge]

I dont see how that relates to Errant

[fast forge]

We know some parts of AE are keeping secrets from other parts of the company, some of that could be illegal activity

[hexed forge]

How does that relate to Errant?

[lethal moat]

To do an autopsy requires a decent bit of legal stuff and having a bunch of people sign papers, if AE just wisked them to the dissection table without contacting any relatives or next of kin, that's sort of "turbo illegal" so I'm bringing into question how much sway AE has in how conventional laws are enforced

[fast forge]

If you think companies don't break the law, boy I got news for you

[lethal moat]

Maybe, but I'm of the opinion that's paranoia to limit damage

[lethal moat]

Alright, but what if you made the rules? Can't break laws if you write them

[fast forge]

if it's a Gen 2 body then what next of kin are they gonna have? no social security number, we don't even know if they know who it is?

[hexed forge]

Whose going to know?

If they do it without papers, without contacting family members, etc.

[lethal moat]

That's why I brought up the idea of the body being company property

[lethal moat]

We see papers, plus, why do anything if you don't gain something from it

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-president-presidential-debate-sleepy-joe-disagree-gif-7929505249295119210

You are disregarding my main point

[lethal moat]

The people who got him to the island are going to know

[hexed forge]

And what will they say? That AE did an autopsy without papers, etc? With no proof? (Assuming that Errant is a rival spy...)

[fast forge]

or the replicator just stuck an AI into a Gen 2 body

[hexed forge]

Errant couldve died in the jungle for all they know.

[lethal moat]

Could be an optiion

[muted reef]

Whats thy topic of choice

[hexed forge]

Will the Rival company admit to sending a spy into private property

Its better for the people who sent Errant there, to just.

Shut. And stay quiet.

[fast forge]

^^^

[lethal moat]

Order a subpoena if they know anything
The consequences for stealing ideas are likely more managable than widespread human rights violations

[hexed forge]

But then how will they know how Errant died

How do they know AE did an autopsy on him.

AE literally could use a million excuses on how Errant died.

[lethal moat]

They don't, they just know their spies don't come back from those islands

[hexed forge]

So why should AE care whether its legal or not

[lethal moat]

If they write the rules, they wouldn't, that's what started the conversation

If they are in control of all aspects on the island, any attempted oversight would be a violation of their own laws

[hexed forge]

Even if they are under some form of Laws, they wouldnt care.

[lethal moat]

Why? If they do too much, a government could nationalize the company and break it up to eliminate any backlash

[hexed forge]

How would they know that AE broke that specific law

[lethal moat]

Best to follow by the book and not let anybody know exactly how many cards you've got up your sleave

[lethal moat]

AE clearly keeps fairly extensive records

[hexed forge]

And how would the Government access those records?

That report could be available for only the higher-ups.

If AE is capable if keeping some of their assets a secret..

A small report should be a piece of cake..

[lethal moat]

They ask, and AE will face consequences and the records will be given anyway

[lethal moat]

What about 291 small reports?

[hexed forge]

❔

[hexed forge]

AE would probably do some stuff that earns the governments trust completely.

[lethal moat]

Errant 291
Numbers start from zero

[lethal moat]

Like gain enough jurisdiction in their own islands to make their own laws

It's way easier for AE to be in charge and legally unchallanged than it is for AE to hide billions of dollars invested into the islands

[hexed forge]

Does Errant mean something, or is Errant a name?

[fast forge]

Errant kinda means divergent

[lethal moat]

Errant means something similar to "off track" or "out of the normal"

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

Then it could be 290 different reports that are not related to 291 at all.

Different

[lethal moat]

Yep

290 other things to cover up

[fast forge]

Off track is a good definition, as the term has kind of a locational aspect - a knight errant, for example is a wandering knight

[hexed forge]

Not all of them could contain illegal actions

[muted reef]

Whats the topic of choice

[fast forge]

or it was just the number on his jacket for all we know

[hexed forge]

You had about 10 minutes to read.

[muted reef]

Playing fonite

[hexed forge]

[muted reef]

marvel season slaps okay?

[lethal moat]

Incident Report #: (four digits)
I imagine AE has dealt with quite a few things going not exactly top plan/wrong, yes, not all could be illegal or bad, but the sheer number shows how much AE monitors and records

[fast forge]

could be any kind of incident really
a fistfight in the cafeteria
a mislaid test tube worth $1000
a broken fence
🤷‍♀️

[lethal moat]

Yep

[fast forge]

accidents

[hexed forge]

They dont go by just "Incident reports" tho

[hexed forge]

I doubt thats the name of a list of reports.

I imagine it to be broken into many things

Anomalous behavior reports
Errant Reports
Structural Damage reports
etc

[lethal moat]

mhm

[hexed forge]

I guess Incident report could be used as a list for.. Everything?

[lethal moat]

Even then, I'm only pointing at a specific part of the report and being nitpicky

[fast forge]

Incident is a pretty broad term, and that's what they use

[hexed forge]

Theres also 2 digits after..

ER (Errent Report)
AB (Anamolous behavior report)
etc

Just shootin ideas

[lethal moat]

But AE does have the authority to relocate people to Tartarus as well as whatever it means to displace a lineage, which isn't unheard of, if you do something against a warning you can be sacrificing your rights a lot of times, so that could be completely legal

[hexed forge]

The 2 digits after could be a way for them to break it down

[hexed forge]

Especially if you signed a contract

[fast forge]

or it could be a year, or it could be locational, who knows

[hexed forge]

Doubt locational

[fast forge]

that's not my point

my point is that it could be anything

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[lethal moat]

My point being, AE is not a shady gas station selling things they shouldn't, they are a part of a massive corperation and likely would prefer to have the law protect them rather than be against them, they have so much more to loose than any of the "victims" of AE's justice

[fast forge]

They might know what kind of report it is by virtue of the department where it was filed
we don't know what their organization is like

[hexed forge]

More lore papers that show us how AE is organized please

[lethal moat]

More logistics things would be much appreciated

[fast forge]

Just dropping this

[hexed forge]

So Don stated that Docktah lore is built into the Docks..

I wonder if we can find some Raptor clawmarks on some of the structures

https://tenor.com/view/meow-cat-fight-claws-claw-marks-scratch-gif-11538320

[muted reef]

Doktah?

[lethal moat]

Omniraptors at the docks

[hexed forge]

A community meme about raptors living at Docks, turned into lore.

[muted reef]

Sik

[hexed forge]

NV HT before School starts please 🙏

[muted reef]

Luck with that one

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

I've been reading a textbook this whole time

[hexed forge]

I need to buy a Greek Mythology Textbook lol

[lethal moat]

I loved my mythology class

[hexed forge]

Wish I had that

[muted reef]

Thats probably why I like elder scrolls lore too

Very inspired by real history

[fast forge]

I think there is a TON of info in that page

[lethal moat]

Agreed

[hexed forge]

I love black highlighted text, so informational.

[fast forge]

What do these even mean?

[hexed forge]

Oh yeah hold on, someone solved it.

[lethal moat]

Isaac

[hexed forge]

yay

Honestly I dont trust that 2172 date lol..

Makes me think that Don was just filling in the dates with random numbers.

[lethal moat]

I'm very skeptical on most of that tbh

[hexed forge]

Same..

Just filler with little lore significance perhaps.

Oh hey look! It says Site 12! Cool reference.

[lethal moat]

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/give-me-give-it-to-me-now-gif-6486247

[hexed forge]

Isaac should be the voice actor in AE Video logs.... He has the perfect voice lol.

[fast forge]

He does have a good voice

[lethal moat]

Here's a bunch of censored information and then references to 5 other massive pieces of information

[hexed forge]

We should all tell him that and force Dondi to hire him

[hexed forge]

Olympus..

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

[hexed forge]

Wonder if the next map will be Site 12 or the Hunting facility lol

[lethal moat]

Or another thing

[fast forge]

I'd love to see Spiro updated

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[fast forge]

people would love it (and hate it)

[hexed forge]

If Spiro/Spero turn out to be Site 12 Im going to go berserk

[hexed forge]

You got any ideas?

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 island maybe

[hexed forge]

Site 12...

[acoustic osprey]

There are many, not really just one

Unless you want a general summary
Which then I'd recommend a few channels

Because greek mythology isn't just one singular thing

[acoustic osprey]

It's quite likely the year was a placeholder
But the actual three day time span is canon

[acoustic osprey]

Takes you to Tartarus...

[hexed forge]

SoonTM I will finally binge watch a bunch of Greek Mythology videos.. soon..

[hexed forge]

What three time span?

[hexed forge]

Poseidon entry...

not

[acoustic osprey]

That is
Transistors regulating current, as if a gate

[acoustic osprey]

The three dates given in the paper

[hexed forge]

Mmm

[acoustic osprey]

12/9
12/8
12/7

[hexed forge]

Ah

[fast forge]

December 7th, 8th, and 9th, in the American style? More likely than July 12th, August 12th, September 12th

[hexed forge]

Controls all power on the island perhaps

[acoustic osprey]

The digits at the end
Is AVI

Which is the file format

[hexed forge]

Oh

https://tenor.com/view/noted-butcher-william-melphyx-the-boys-gif-17836527

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523282321303142400/1209905095433650186/melon.gif

[hexed forge]

AE being an American company..

I still hope it's not

[fast forge]

if the geothermal activity is only on Gateway and it powers the rest of the islands, it could be controlling things in the other direction

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[fast forge]

nah all of their internal stuff is written in american style

[hexed forge]

Let me continue hoping

[hexed forge]

Mmmm, but does Gateway have geothermal activity? How long has the volcano been dormant for?

[lethal moat]

America has typically been on the bleeding edge of innovation

[acoustic osprey]

Site 12 did in Legacy

[lethal moat]

In addition to stiff competition from other companies fitting america's ideals of "winner take all"

[acoustic osprey]

Actually no
4 did

[hexed forge]

I swear if Gateway turns out to be to be site 12

[fast forge]

*leading edge

[lethal moat]

Potato tomato

[lethal moat]

Site 12 might be on gateway

[hexed forge]

Site 12 is an island tho right?

[lethal moat]

I would guess so

You think AE donates to certain schools that they use to prepare future emplyees?

[fast forge]

nah

[icy onyx]

Would be one way to keep up a good public image

[lethal moat]

And taxes

[icy onyx]

not even the replicator messes with the IRS

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dcau-the-joker-dc-comics-irs-gif-10036701353470026173

[fast forge]

Might just be an Apollo thing, and not AE specifically

[lethal moat]

True

[acoustic osprey]

Olympus is actually just their HQ silicon valley

[acoustic osprey]

this is missing the "abandoned buildings" area as well
https://gyazo.com/3f3df01659e32876c470dcf9ceab436d
https://gyazo.com/d05632e2b46bff2c8e96aed28d759ee7

[zenith frigate]

Dammit

Im not fixing

I might fix it

Ill fix it in the morning

[acoustic osprey]

NOOO

[hexed forge]

Reminds me of the workers villa from the lost world

[tribal bobcat]

The isle is

[hexed forge]

Tartarus

[tribal bobcat]

Real...sorry devs

[hexed forge]

Just realized there is a "Main Tower" in Highlands lol

....

https://tenor.com/view/well-that-is-something-that-is-possible-supernatural-dean-winchester-gif-18600089

[tiny cypress]

Has it been considered that Apollo may be a fake company?

[lethal moat]

Nope

There’s subsidiaries to the company and massive investments

In infrastructure

[fast forge]

there's a tower in highlands?

[hexed forge]

The label

[fast forge]

I see

[tiny cypress]

Yeah, that's about the same conclusion I came to after some diggin'

[lethal moat]

AE is likely “too big to fail”

[bold crater]

They got too many deep roots.....
....literally, they're in agriculture.

[low scarab]

I have every inch of hope burning like a wildfire inside me that this is those massive diamond shaped towers

[bold crater]

Must
climb

....wait, it's metal

[hexed forge]

No.

[low scarab]

lol

[low scarab]

what?

[hexed forge]

Thats just a name for a river system iirc

Well, part of it.

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-side-eye-side-eye-gif-15633112056809271170

[hexed forge]

Wait, I thought you were talking about the label. ree

I quite literally did not see that tower

[low scarab]

maybe the tower could be a placeholder for the nametag or something

I still really hope we see a return of the big diamond towers

[hexed forge]

The label is the name for the highlands lake

Also its very similar to this, you might be right.

I just fried my brainnn

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

Too big to fail, too important to choose what they do

[bold crater]

[tiny cypress]

[muted reef]

Woah theres visible grid?

[zenith frigate]

I fix

[hexed forge]

yahoo

[acoustic osprey]

They are for diet spawns iirc

[muted reef]

cool

[muted reef]

Ahem...visitor center?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no

Dondi commented and we think the names, especially visitor centre, are just placeholder names (at the moment)

[muted reef]

Whats it look like

[acoustic osprey]

A circle

[zenith frigate]

circle

[acoustic osprey]

Quite literally lol

[zenith frigate]

⚫

[acoustic osprey]

●

[muted reef]

So...dome

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

[muted reef]

Was it literally a circle in the ground on stream

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[hexed forge]

Yes, and its a circle on the old concept too

[low scarab]

If we got some lore from an update drop this weekend that would be heavenly

[muted reef]

Let me see

[muted reef]

When you guys say a circle you mean literally 2d like texture on the ground or a building

[hexed forge]

2D texture.. untextured

[dense nexus]

john cake fights baryonyx and the unjust legal system to reclaim his visitation rights to their children. NEW ISLE LORE?

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

circle

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1275955551658049556/Screenshot_2024-08-22_001105.png?ex=66c91735&is=66c7c5b5&hm=cdbb5441c433dc7a8809c5167aaab4695bf25e8e5ee85a3d98264334e8d45f3b&
real or not (as in, if it'll actually be used

the top piece of such radio tower is a bit different to our normal towers

i agree with rump that it looks like two radio towers that are mirrored

but it looks like it has this on top
or three sirens

if it is an anemometer
why so high?

for me, at least, it may just be a new model radio tower (ignoring the mirrored part)

or an alternative model for the current radio tower model

[fading moat]

Isnt this the thing that dondi said was to just mark the center of the map or something?

in editor only

[acoustic osprey]

it may potentially be so
however

why use it

however
I don't doubt it used to mark the centre
it's weirdly placed and also mirrored, plus the bottom mirror is meshed in the ground

but the model itself is slightly different to our current radio towers

[hexed forge]

It could just be the third layer thingy on top.

Actually nevermind.

That tower seems too big

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
it's a bit weirdly proportioned

[muted reef]

HYpo!!1!!

[lethal moat]

I am very convinced that a centerpiece of AE’s efforts is to advance the human condition to better suit our quickly changing needs and environments, different bodies to do different things is handy, but with things such as the robo-quetz, integration with electronics is also no small important feat

We won’t change our behaviors, but we will change our forms to better suit our behaviors and the consequences of those behaviors

We control the planet now, we don’t need tradeoffs in evolution anymore, we can just take everything we need in a new body

[tacit loom]

what does hypocreon mean?

[lethal moat]

This is what I found https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Hippocrene#:~:text=noun,a source of poetic inspiration

[tacit loom]

it says hypocrenon

[lethal moat]

Yep

[tacit loom]

might be mispelled because its a placeholder

[lethal moat]

Or it’s an adaptation of the original word

Or it’s something different

But mountain lake being compared to gods’ fountain doesn’t seem unreasonable to me

[tacit loom]

you think the "visitor center" is the reserve like in the lore doc?

[acoustic osprey]

would be interesting for that mountain to be called Helicon

[lethal moat]

Nope

Reserve is it’s own island

[acoustic osprey]

fitting as it has it's own lake, it's own hippocrene

[acoustic osprey]

but there's literally nothing on "hypocrenon"

[lethal moat]

I just picked up the first result on google, it’s totally possible I’m wrong

[tacit loom]

could just be using a cool word for the sake of a cool word

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/0798986d87335a7dc47e07f839f3b8d0

[lethal moat]

Someone else figured it was some sort of type of body of water correct?

[zenith frigate]

crenon
the uppermost zone at the source of the river

wait a second

[tacit loom]

fancy way of saying highlands water

[acoustic osprey]

that was for the delta, iirc

[zenith frigate]

hypocrenon
brook or headstream zone

[tacit loom]

what do you think the visitor center is reffering to?

[lethal moat]

So: Water source

[zenith frigate]

yup but probably the official name for it

[lethal moat]

Probably a living area for those who don’t work/live on the island

[acoustic osprey]

are you sure?

[zenith frigate]

https://prezi.com/vxsdils6jfm3/crenon/

as long as this is correct

[acoustic osprey]

i literally cannot find anything
such an obscure word

[acoustic osprey]

Crenon zone: The crenon zone is that area that is near the source of the river or where the river
gets it to start. The crenon zone divided into two zones namely the eucrenon zone and
hypocrenon zone. The eucrenon zone is the spring zone and hypocrenon zone is the headstream
zone. In these areas, the temperature of the water, oxygen level and flow of water are low

this is the next AEQUOR !!

[zenith frigate]

lol proabably

[tacit loom]

yeah but theres not a river anywhere near the label

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't be surprised
If what Don said is true

any of the tags for things may just be super misleading

[carmine marsh]

there was.

[lethal moat]

Seems pretty straight forward to me

[tacit loom]

in highlands?

[zenith frigate]

theres a dam

[carmine marsh]

yeah me too.

[zenith frigate]

a small one at least

[acoustic osprey]

it's gone now
which may actually be an in-lore thing in being canonically gone

[carmine marsh]

Yes, in old gateway teaser images there's a river leading out of highlands and down to the ocean, the riverbed of gravel still remains.

[acoustic osprey]

looking at the river fence with no river

and the reference to the "flooded" building at swamp

might be that, post-AE, Gateway has "returned" back to it's natural state

[carmine marsh]

rough drawing of where it is.

[acoustic osprey]

is near where the bridges are down stream as well

[carmine marsh]

could be a future river? the riverbed is clearly there and the general area is unfinished.

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, it could be one or the other

[tacit loom]

could flood with the weather mechanics

[acoustic osprey]

you don't just build something in the middle of a swamp

so
who knows right now

[tacit loom]

yeah i dont think its a housing for workers in the middle of the swamp

[acoustic osprey]

especially with the tag flooded

[carmine marsh]

ok, so, hear me out.
what if the swamp simply didn't exist pre AE?

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
bit slow duck...

practically imagine Rome if it had no development

[tacit loom]

swamps take a long time to form

[acoustic osprey]

it's natural state is, practically, full marshes

[carmine marsh]

???
that says return to its natural state.
i'm saying its natural state never had a swamp, and that malfunctions in man made AE buildings caused it.

[acoustic osprey]

more so referring to a natural state, not it's natural state

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-climate-change-rain-rainy-monsoon-rain-rain-go-away-gif-22338940

[carmine marsh]

during the gateway stress test when we could stream, just before the public horde test and maybe even into it? there was a pipe randomly leading out of the cliff facing the swamp coming from perimeter.

[acoustic osprey]

human interference is a hindrance
like a compression on a vocal track!

[carmine marsh]

i'm pretty sure it stayed in the game until the dilo/herrera update actually.
it might even still be there but i don't recall seeing it when taking that path up anymore.

[lethal moat]

I get the feeling it’ll be a popular location for nesting semi-aquatics

If it does end up being a thing

[carmine marsh]

and before i hear that whatever they have going on inside perimeter wouldn't have enough drainage to fill the swamp - let me remind you that the entire south river comes from perimeter alone.

[acoustic osprey]

meanwhile perm is flooded...

[tacit loom]

i hope they show us what they are working towards in the perimeter

[carmine marsh]

well no.
that lake has always been there, they just added trees.

[lethal moat]

Perimiter having massive natural springs inside could be cool

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fun-sucker-party-pooper-thief-of-joy-you-are-a-thief-of-joy-the-office-gif-11156413

[carmine marsh]

😊

[acoustic osprey]

failed english
I use ellipses!!!

[lethal moat]

Tons of fresh water being pushed out of massive aquifers

[carmine marsh]

i get the feeling we're more on the level of simulated weather gone wrong.

[lethal moat]

Could be

[acoustic osprey]

unless what's inside perm is just a rough "this'll do before we have to do whatever we have to do"

[carmine marsh]

yeah, maybe.
it's worth noting that the lake and waterfalls there are new to this version of gateway, they were never in the ue4 gateway - the whole area was just cliffs.

[lethal moat]

Could be something else on the island failing due to a lack of maintenance, like duck said, or it might even be an aspect of “the incident”

[acoustic osprey]

i don't remember being able to get inside Perm pre-launch

[carmine marsh]

i'm just hoping on now to see if i can find the pipe i was on about.

[carmine marsh]

perm didn't exist in the 2022 ue4 version.

[acoustic osprey]

i didn't understand what you meant

(i do now)

[carmine marsh]

right, yeah no i just meant that they didn't place perm over what was already there and say "well we'll do inside later", almost all of the terrain and features inside perm were done after it was placed, or after the version we saw in ue4.

[lethal moat]

Having an entire environment as a result of human actions (even if those actions are accidental) would be really cool, especially if we get to explore destroyed infrastructure in that area

[carmine marsh]

the pipe seems to be gone, loads of rocks in its place.

[lethal moat]

Hmm, maybe we’ll see it or something similar return at a later point

[acoustic osprey]

just looking at old pictures
yeah
environment seemed relatively changed

not super cliffy but still on that edge of that environment, coming from the river delta cliffs
but yeah, ironic to see Perm being the last left out of the two - when in the ST, it was only the sister dome that existed.

albeit
isle is known to change a lot - especially with human locations

i wouldn't still place my bets that what we have, generally for the environment, is the close to final

[lethal moat]

Might be interesting to try and map out what the natural state of water on gateway could be

[acoustic osprey]

just due to the nature of things

[lethal moat]

That giant dam at river delta could have formed the swamp

[nimble fractal]

Guys
This is obviously aliens

That one aliens guy was correct 11!11111!1

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-vitruvius-emmett-wildstyle-batman-gif-7767977

[nimble fractal]

I'm slowly losing my mind craving more lore after seeing all the buildings

[acoustic osprey]

yes

very good

[nimble fractal]

Wh-what no I... I'm normal! I... I NEED MORE LORE 😭

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/987787300090044426/1017533795597041785/caption-2-1.gif

[zenith frigate]

apparently UgaTech showed this earlier

[acoustic osprey]

nice

[zenith frigate]

someone should create a wild theory about that staircase

[acoustic osprey]

up to olympus

[zenith frigate]

its solved

[acoustic osprey]

no need to thank me

[pseudo fable]

Upstairs to the guard railing outside the DTA building.

[zenith frigate]

i like our theory better

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bEAjQ.gif

[acoustic osprey]

oh nice!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/agreed-pirates-of-the-carribean-gif-15127372

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bjKti.gif

[nimble fractal]

We didn't just get a straight lore answer on our question....
we live in a weird period of time

[acoustic osprey]

time is the greatest weapon

[pseudo fable]

What.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah... lorecord seems to have gone insane again

[pseudo fable]

That only raised more questions.

[acoustic osprey]

also, don't know if you saw the convos from a month back
but we also found the/some of the herrera morse code in the trailer

which was cool.

[pseudo fable]

There were a few iterations of it. I've since forgotten which one made it to live.

[acoustic osprey]

iirc one we found was one saying AUGUSTUS

[pseudo fable]

I think one says Hi.

Or some form of a greeting.

[zenith frigate]

the closest hera said hi

[acoustic osprey]

I believe it was hi

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[hexed forge]

One of them says "Hi"
Another says "AUGUSTES"
Third says "TUS"
Iirc

Unless the TUS is a continuation of the second one

[hexed forge]

When are we not insane

[nimble fractal]

"Hi Augustus" - Tus

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

That was a fun little easter egg

[hexed forge]

I hope Docks gets an Easter egg in game

Some Docktah lore..

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

Also AE dumps their waste into the ocean.

Well at least the waste at docks.

But we can't confirm that until we actually see the Docks in person.

[lethal moat]

How do you know this?

[hexed forge]

Looking at all the Dock footage

It's a theory

I need to actually play on the Docks to confirm it tho..

[lethal moat]

Ight, I personally doubt it, but ight

[tacit loom]

what like garbage?

[hexed forge]

No, human waste.

[tacit loom]

you think they dumping bodies at dock?

[hexed forge]

Nonono

[lethal moat]

💩

[hexed forge]

That ^

[lethal moat]

That one might be possible, idk

[tacit loom]

seems like an unnecisary detail considering all the toilets on the map

perimiter probably has a septic tank

[lethal moat]

That would be a massive septic tank that needs to be cleaned out

Probably better to process it and dump it

[icy onyx]

I'd hate to be a AE janitor

[lethal moat]

There would be a multitude of issues to be had with that job

[icy onyx]

One minute youre cleaning bathroom sinks, the next minute youre cleaning someones mangled corpse because they thought the baby Beipi was cute.

Wonder if they have good benefits and 401K

[tacit loom]

they probably prisoners

[icy onyx]

Or Gen 2's

prisoners seems a bit too SCP for me, but who knows

[tacit loom]

make the reject experiments into janitors

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-gif-18265873

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

Well lets look at what’s been said about it

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/d0Dv6Ow7DfT.gif

[lethal moat]

I FORGOT one sec

[nimble fractal]

Hello Don, welcome back to the insanity chamber a.k.a. isle-lore-theories channel

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

Once they're in, they don't really leave, or they don't want to leave

[nimble fractal]

Yeah, signing the contract means you obey to the company
contract...
...thousand lives contract?...
Help

[molten monolith]

I didn't believe it at first

But then suddenly I was at 4 am thinking about theories

[lethal moat]

Maybe, but thousand life contract could be more EIP focused, there could be a variety of contracts for different employees

[nimble fractal]

Yeah
Remember we had a theory before that by signing the TLC you have to work at the company for that amount

[hexed forge]

So basically, you dont ever retire?

Literally work for AE for the rest of your life?

[icy onyx]

Could be they wipe memory or use you for a different purpose if you get too old or injured

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/eh-meh-jim-jim-halpert-the-office-gif-25317293

Which life

OR rather, how many?

[hexed forge]

Reduced to being a Janitor after suffering an injury.

[hexed forge]

Dont think everyone in the company is an EIP.

[icy onyx]

[lethal moat]

Maybe not, but in that situation, you probably are signed on/recruited differently

[hexed forge]

Work for the company for the rest of your life

[lethal moat]

Company loyalty is a thing

[hexed forge]

What about forced loyalty.

https://tenor.com/view/sips-tea-gif-18332586

[lethal moat]

Those two words seem to be counterproductive

[hexed forge]

True

[icy onyx]

Promise of near immortality from implanting yourself into a new body if you get injured or too old would be hell of a deal

[hexed forge]

Semi-Immortality, I would guess only for a thousand lives.

[lethal moat]

They might feel obligated to work for the progression of humanity as a species, important work is a heavy weight, might not want to pass it off

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

[fast forge]

Don said employees wouldn't want to leave, right?

[hexed forge]

Spread a bunch of propaganda to their workers that they are working for the good of the world.

Would you want to leave then?

[lethal moat]

Propganda can be the truth

[hexed forge]

Yes it can.

Never said it cant be.

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

Mmmm yes

[icy onyx]

Maybe outside world factors play a part as to why employees wouldnt want to leave either?

[fast forge]

I remember a different, more recent quote, but yeah

[hexed forge]

Either that the workers believe their job is super important to the world or something else, maybe something might happen to them if they leave.

[icy onyx]

Either a "better here than out there" or "staying here helps out there"

[hexed forge]

Kidnapped by the rival companies for information.

[hexed forge]

Possible

Lots of theories that could be possible.

We just need a nudge into the right direction.

[lethal moat]

Or they're just genuinely invested in their work

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[tacit loom]

will the toilets be able to flush in the human buildings?

[hexed forge]

The island is not functional, but maybe.

[nimble fractal]

I want to flush down the troodons

[hexed forge]

[nimble fractal]

Down into the drains they go

[tacit loom]

see these are the real hard hitting questions

[hexed forge]

They would just be sent down into their natural territory, the sewers.

[icy onyx]

AE is a branch of Apollo right? or are they just synonymous with each other.

[hexed forge]

Subsidiary iirc

[tacit loom]

ae is apollo

[lethal moat]

Correct

[icy onyx]

aight just making sure. thx

[hexed forge]

I hope the pipe system under the Docks isnt small, I want it to be big and perhaps lead to another location.

[lethal moat]

Secret tunnel!

[hexed forge]

Exactly

[low scarab]

lol who made that

[lethal moat]

Dock

[hexed forge]

@bold crater

[bold crater]

👋

[hexed forge]

[bold crater]

Worshiping egomaniacal god complex AI (if that's still a thing) is FUN

[low scarab]

yes

[lethal moat]

Worship is a strong word but yes

[bold crater]

I just remember ages ago something about the Replicator having a sense of ego being mentioned heehee

I mean makes sense
it m a k e s life

[icy onyx]

compulsive action

[lethal moat]

I don't believe the replicator is sentient

[bold crater]

🤏

[lethal moat]

That is my theory, not a confirmed thing

[bold crater]

I hope it's a l i t t l e sentient <:)
Nothin' crazy, but enough to make it unnerving

[low scarab]

thats what im sayinnnnn

[bold crater]

Weird example but like T-1000 levels of sentience/sapience/whatever
Like yeah, it's still clearly beep boop robot
But now and then....it does those little things that show there's more behind it's mind.

[hexed forge]

I agree with Rumple,

I like the Idea of the Replicator just being a machine that is doing x task.

[lethal moat]

Does it need a mind though?

[bold crater]

I see it less as it needing one, more so it being a result

[icy onyx]

Smart AI would demand a purpose

A machine just does as told

[bold crater]

Like it just kinda....happens since it's prolly incredibly advanced in terms of processing power and whatnot

[lethal moat]

Make dinosaur 🫵

[bold crater]

MAKE CARNO TINY 🫵

[lethal moat]

I feel like accidentally making AGI would be very unlikely

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-peter-griffin-why-confused-gif-12968051

[hexed forge]

The good ol "Why Dinosaurs?"

[crystal cairn]

what was shirley’s siblings name again?

[lethal moat]

Dean

[crystal cairn]

ty

[low scarab]

dean is the superior rex

[hexed forge]

Maybe not

Dean and Shirley describe the playerbase of the game tho

Shirley: PvP addicts who just like fighting constantly
Dean: Survivalist who knows the game is an actual survival game. Plays smart.

[acoustic gull]

Anyone have a link or file of the up to date lore?

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit
There's also a podcast and an unofficial lore server

[acoustic gull]

Aight bet ty!

[low scarab]

Anyone tried just pasting all the known and theorized lore docs into chat gpt

I saw someone a while back did something along the lines of lore and chat gpt

[snow jasper]

anyone know what film this is from
soz, its not lore related, but i enjoy this actor's work

[acoustic osprey]

Falcon and the winter soldier

https://tenor.com/view/fair-baron-zemo-the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-fair-enough-seems-fair-gif-22912772

It's a tv show

[lethal moat]

I saw the wrong gif lol

Ultron is best villain (stupidest death though)

[low scarab]

have dons lore messages been typed out or copied somewhere like in one of the lore docs

[lethal moat]

Not that I know of

[low scarab]

k

[forest olive]

game optimization when 😭 🙏

[acoustic osprey]

No optimising lore

[hexed forge]

This is lore

[acoustic osprey]

There will be no easy way out of it

[lethal moat]

I look forward to the challenge

[low scarab]

you think this could be dean or a similar rex maybe with a specfic human connection somehow?

even eip or gained consciousness

[icy onyx]

That's old lore art iirc, so who knows if it fits in with current lore

[lethal moat]

Might just be a fun thing

[low scarab]

it is old

[low scarab]

maybe either way it would make a tough poster

[lethal moat]

mhm

[young viper]

i wonder if thats Dondi

[lethal moat]

I feel like this has been discussed at some point

[young viper]

i imagine

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/dondi-pizza-dondi-pizza-the-isle-the-isle-diets-gif-27333835

[hexed forge]

Dean and Shirley existed since the start of The Isle

[acoustic osprey]

Quite early on yes

[icy onyx]

Fair

[pseudo fable]

Before, *commercially at least.

[lethal moat]

Interesting

[hexed forge]

Commercially.

[lethal moat]

I'm assuming he's talking about development rather than in-game story

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[lethal moat]

I love learning about the history of development as someone who hasn't been with the game for very long

[hexed forge]

Long before time- Instead of 60 playables confirmed... there were 3.

Those 3 were..

Carno, Rex..Austro?

Carno was def one of them.

[muted reef]

As sucky as X Zag is his history of the isle video gave a lot of insight to the development

[hexed forge]

Ah interesting, 3 were planned but then 5 were actually released.

[acoustic osprey]

Just one

[hexed forge]

6

[hexed forge]

Don said 3 tho 🤔

[muted reef]

Hmm maybe in the old isle trailer dean is the rex that killed the trike and shirley showed up and did the hyper roar offscreen that'd be a twist

[acoustic osprey]

The very original, to what we now, was just one

[hexed forge]

Being Rex?

[acoustic osprey]

No
Humans

Everything else was just ai

[low scarab]

Don seriously shows up to give us our one drop of lore and vanishes

[acoustic osprey]

It comes full circle

[hexed forge]

Its not really lore tho

[acoustic osprey]

^

[low scarab]

Eh fits the bill

[acoustic osprey]

Just cool information

[hexed forge]

Yea

[low scarab]

Wait

[muted reef]

https://youtu.be/sGp880IVevQ

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/sGp880IVevQ

[low scarab]

Never mind I was thinking in terms of the actual Rexes not the idea of dean and Shirley lol

[hexed forge]

Bob Smith is doing his service

[muted reef]

Thanks

[acoustic osprey]

I'm still surprised he still visited the channel

[muted reef]

Hoo

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

(Don, not you. This channel, the lore channel)

[hexed forge]

Who

Oh wait

https://tenor.com/view/penguin-hide-you-didnt-see-anything-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-15123878

[lethal moat]

I'm convinced Dean is either blind or frail

[hexed forge]

Wh..Why.

[muted reef]

Both? Both? Both? Both is good

[low scarab]

As long as he is cool

And scary

[hexed forge]

You guys are overestimating Dean

[acoustic osprey]

Overestimating?

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message Dean is physically impeded

[hexed forge]

I couldnt think of any other word

[acoustic osprey]

No

[hexed forge]

But hey, look what I found while scrolling through Isles twitter

[acoustic osprey]

Wasn't for the isle though

But still
A distant dream

[hexed forge]

Site 12 possibly is Olympus?

Orrrr.

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
In Legacy yes

[hexed forge]

Decent chance of that being the case in Evrima then

[acoustic osprey]

If only we could possibly grasp Olympus for Evrima

[hexed forge]

Wah oh

[acoustic osprey]

old 2015-2016 human buildings were a fever dream

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

much more glad they went with what we have now with the vibe of Evrima buildings

[lethal moat]

IF the isle twitter becomes active again, I'll probably end up making a twitter account

[fading moat]

I think it was a megaraptor thing instead of austro?

[acoustic osprey]

it's active though

just nothing really lore worthy, yes

[hexed forge]

Just Devblog posts monthly.

[dense nexus]

human looting gameplay when

[acoustic osprey]

yep

megaraptor, deinonychus and rex

[lethal moat]

Olympus Transmitter

[hexed forge]

Wah oh

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/agreed-pirates-of-the-carribean-gif-15127372

[hexed forge]

Level system

[acoustic osprey]

I would love to progress my character in a better realistic "MMORPG" sort of way: basically your character goes from basically naked to fully geared and ready to survive
of course it's hard in a survival game

(albeit, I wouldn't really have "leveled" systems though - was fitting for legacy though, with how you grew with dinosaurs)

[hexed forge]

Amazing lore post, such deep lore in this image.

[lethal moat]

Dino Jesus!

[hexed forge]

Interesting

That would be fun

[lethal moat]

You can still "level up", it's just much more gradual

[muted reef]

Hyper elder mutations...all leveling to me

[hexed forge]

This thing?

A megaraptorid

[acoustic osprey]

it's still not a gated system
I wouldn't call it leveling up

more so a dynamic progression

[acoustic osprey]

well
that's a strain version

but yes

but megaraptor is a dinosaur

[hexed forge]

Just realized that this video released before the game even released?

[acoustic osprey]

the game was publicly in development since roughly 2014

[hexed forge]

Yes but it released in December of 2015, Mmmmm

[lethal moat]

That was the trailer for the kickstarter right?

[hexed forge]

One of the kickstarters

[acoustic osprey]

one of them yes

[lethal moat]

Crazy how much this game has changed since the beginning

[hexed forge]

The first Kickstarter is this one I think

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/6OM5lhfJ3qM?list=PLSm-wfYUNpcDX3BqKz36xRxHDg4_9lGOb
nice look at very very early on isle

[hexed forge]

Beaver

[acoustic osprey]

this video was one of the reasons I bought PCE over Isle lol
as a wee little kiddo

i did not understand the aspect of a game in early alpha

[lethal moat]

I only had an original Wii back then

[muted reef]

My first vid of his was his allo vid...it made me like dinosaurs the way I do now

[lethal moat]

I was introduced by a friend

[muted reef]

I was introduced by that vid

Pretty sure I'd still seen jp the first time even before that but seeing jp, and the isle made me the ultimate islander

[hexed forge]

I seen Jurassic World before I saw Jurassic Park and I still love Jurassic Park more.

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

The only movie that beats Jurassic Park that has dinos in it is Lost World lol.

[hexed forge]

Its confusing

[lethal moat]

I watched JP 1-3 on VHS

[hexed forge]

Rumple is actually a 60 year old EIP inside a 19 year old body.

[muted reef]

JP 1 is simply the best and theres no way about it. Lost world has some awesomeness...if 3 was longer and better paced I'd actually consider it a quality movie, world feels a bit bland but is still a good movie, kingdoms first half sucked but the second half was excellent, and for some reason I love dominion so damn much

[hexed forge]

You love Dominion....?

[muted reef]

Honestly if we'd had 3 better paced, Fallen kingdom made into two seperate movies, and dominion split into two seperate movies there'd be no bad movie in the series

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/condolence-there-there-bay-max-big-hero6-its-okay-gif-10371143

[muted reef]

It's gud

And I'm tired of pretending it's not

[hexed forge]

I didnt like the entire first half of the movie

[muted reef]

Which one dominion?

[hexed forge]

The Byison sanctuary half was fun.

But then I just didnt like it when the "Big fight" happened.

[lethal moat]

We have gone very off topic, let's move over to lorecord

[hexed forge]

Oops

[hexed forge]

I really hope the HT comes out before school starts, I

NEED it.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/antoine-rome-hbo-marc-antoine-mark-anthony-hbo-gif-18515894

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/my-first-girlfriend-turned-into-the-moon-thats-rough-that-rough-buddy-avatar-avatar-the-last-airbender-gif-5710468

[fast forge]

I've never seen this before
What's the shadow at the end?

[hexed forge]

Hyper Rex

[fast forge]

ohhhh

But also, they been doing the shadow tease since the beginning...

[hexed forge]

And also

Fun fact: That trailer is a fan trailer

[fast forge]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

there was a competition

[hexed forge]

^

[fast forge]

[acoustic osprey]

MeatyLock also recommended at the end of the video
gives me nostalgia

[hexed forge]

Wah oh

The two big Isle Youtubers at that time I assume

[acoustic osprey]

yep

[lethal moat]

Ah yes

[acoustic osprey]

no

[lethal moat]

Hyper gate, right?

[acoustic osprey]

no

[bleak flint]

isn't that the one that was like

"you have seen the other side of this door "

thing

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[nimble fractal]

Was the "flooded visitors center" located in the middle of the swamp?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[nimble fractal]

Thank you Isaac

[bleak flint]

whats flooded visitor center

[acoustic osprey]

a temp placeholder circle at swamp

[bleak flint]

placeholder for what

an actual visitors center thats under the swamp?

[acoustic osprey]

the name is likely clickbait from dondi
as he talked about it later

but the actual place is just a white circle

[nimble fractal]

Clickbait 😭

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

Bait people into thinking The Isle is a JP ripoff

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

no

[fast forge]

I think he just said it to mess with us, after seeing how excited people were getting about it

We would have been much more confident about it, but now we're calling it bait

feels like a troll move, we now have no certainty where before we would have been certain

[acoustic osprey]

yes, that's why we don't really believe the title names for the most part

especially stuff like visitor centre

[hexed forge]

I still hope the name isn't "visitor center".

That's why I think it's bait like Don said.

[fast forge]

It does feel off-theme with everything else, I'll admit

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
visitor centre could work

just not third party guests like JP

[hexed forge]

But an entire facility for it...

[acoustic osprey]

as in guests like high ups/execs

i mean
it's not an entire facility though

[nimble fractal]

I want venture into the depths of Tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

if one were to exist for high ups/execs
I don't imagine it being a tiny little outpost

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/facepalm-lotr-mordor-boromir-sean-bean-gif-4697009

[hexed forge]

Mmm true

[nimble fractal]

You don't know how cool it is there
Especially mold
A lot of mold

I just hope it will be the really unsettling place to be

[fast forge]

tbh a flooded anything in this game sounds really cool and atmospheric

[acoustic osprey]

i do believe that was accurate though

why have it written then?

[acoustic osprey]

i want pure pristine sanitised white clean hyper modern sci-fi labs

exactly the opposite of the rough, piss-green, brutalism style of the buildings and it's lighting

[nimble fractal]

Guess that's how the labs will be looking like and I love it 😻
Probably some Ivys at the entrance but with the irl way the labs are sterilised there shouldn't be not even close the amount of dirt and plants inside as common buildings have

[acoustic osprey]

I want it to be like that

but I don't want just standard labs

i want proper light white
glistening in your eyes.

it's pretty sci-fi
but it would 100% really feel like "oh... this feels weird"

[nimble fractal]

Whenever I'm done with my Pharma I will rent an Island, build a lab there and do a real life simulation of the abandoned lab just to see if it's true like that in-game or not

[nimble fractal]

Well let's not forget that they were built 10s of years earlier than in-game time

Might be not enough technologies to keep it glittering white
If only...

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
if Tartarus is linked with The Replicator somehow

I can imagine the replicator keeping it up somehow

[nimble fractal]

If only they are self-maintaining

YEAH

[acoustic osprey]

that would be something super mysterious if Tartarus was purely untouched and fixed

'turns out it was "X"'

[nimble fractal]

Still I would love the concept of the deeper you go, the more abandoned it gets
However, once you reach the bottom you can see that it's completely functional down there

So the people who are brave enough can reach the below and see the truth

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
problem with isle is (for worldbuilding lore)

admin spec

[nimble fractal]

The solution............ BLACK OUT THIS AREA

[acoustic osprey]

especially with something like tartarus
would be interesting if they could literally put you away when you admin spec it

or yeah, make it black out only in admin spec

[nimble fractal]

Can be the same solution as getting close to the buildings in Legacy. You would be getting the white noise the closer you get/the deeper you go with camera

[acoustic osprey]

i imagine it could be done

[nimble fractal]

Yeah
So it's not revealed one at once
And you actually have to play and find it yourself

[acoustic osprey]

if user is using admin spectator
blur/black "X" area

[nimble fractal]

Yeah or as said, make the static cover the screen completely

[acoustic osprey]

I imagine the biggest things with those would be in HT
but hiding it in normal games is a thing I'd definitely like still

[nimble fractal]

Same

[acoustic osprey]

(especially with THE LORE HUNT)

[nimble fractal]

THE HUNT mentioned!!

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1275460454948536401/ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[nimble fractal]

We all should pick humans once it gets added

[acoustic osprey]

OF COURSE

[nimble fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/im-losing-my-grip-gif-24549187

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rowley-frank-heffley-diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-laser-eyes-laser-gif-11067963769055958310

[icy onyx]

Maia on his way to find the LORE

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-john-hammond-yahoo-jurassic-park-yahoo-john-hammond-yahoo-gif-21207753

[lethal moat]

I wonder at what point we’ll get Time/Species/Location style stuff

[hexed forge]

[icy onyx]

Ohhh yeah, totally forgot about T.S.L

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/visible-confusions-gif-24177109

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

Ahhh

[fast forge]

do you think brachi can fit through the hyper fence gates?

[lethal moat]

Maybe if it dips it's head

[muted reef]

Limbo brachi would be smth

[hexed forge]

Yes

Just dip the head down a bit haha

[muted reef]

I think it'd be sick if they took some ideas from the romulus space station in the new alien movie. I know from the stream it seems like Don hinted that he hated it off stream if I remember right

[bold crater]

Seemed more like he was just really disappointed by it rather than hate

[muted reef]

End my suffering I got the diet bug

[hexed forge]

Sadge that Herrera wont be able to climb perimeter like this in the future

No metal..

[lethal moat]

I am very afraid of whatever can climb a sheer metal surface

[hexed forge]

Jesus I sometimes forget how large Perimeter is

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/a-quiet-place-a-quiet-place-day-one-death-angels-a-quiet-place-monster-a-quiet-place-creature-gif-9084070807173889543

[patent ginkgo]

Gecko

[strong basalt]

Imagine chilling and then a hererra falls from the actual sky

[hexed forge]

Lol

Also the top seems like it could open.

[lethal moat]

Helicopter and/or robo quetz

[hexed forge]

yea

Fish spawn inside perimeter....

If I can find a way to glitch into Perimeter

[elder notch]

Atrium or Perimeter, It change recently right?

[lethal moat]

Currently interchangable, but Atrium is probably more likely

[elder notch]

ok, ty

[muted reef]

No no no no no...wait wait wait wait!

[hexed forge]

Dont

[muted reef]

I would not like to lose the idea of perimeter being the name

[hexed forge]

Tbf the Atrium makes sense more

[lethal moat]

Unless something else gets called Perimeter, we'll know what you're talking about

[hexed forge]

^

Now I wonder if Perimeter is Atrium A, B, or C...

Or does that not exist in evrima lore anymore..

Actually Ima go check what they were in Legacy lore.

Atrium C was a Type-H testing facility.

Rex, Giga, Spino, and Utah being the main testing subjects.

Atrium C used to be a facility that contained Quetz before Type-H

So Below Atrium B was a Type-N testing facility

Atrium B was an aquatic facility

No word on Atrium A

[weak sparrow]

Hey guys, I was just wondering if this lore cooperation between The Isle and Primal Carnage still exists or if they have scrapped it and with Evrima they build up new lore surrounding the game. I'm kinda trying to get into Isle lore but it's somewhat confusing.

[hexed forge]

The connection between The Isle and Primal Carnage is scrapped. Theres new lore surrounding the game.

[gray jungle]

Is there somewhere I can get a up to date rundown on the isles lore so far?

[hexed forge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[lethal moat]

Yall think Shirley and Dean were one of the first time AE observed mutations that appear through aging?

[hexed forge]

Maybe

Ignore this

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-no-i-don't-think-i-will-no-i-don't-think-i-will-gif-zeus-gif-14684487884081756996

[knotty locust]

no, because they’re specifically stated to be pretty much ordinary rexes, just with different characteristics

one being stronger than the other, and the other being smarter

[lethal moat]

They’re anomalous

[hexed forge]

^

[knotty locust]

it’s in track for a regular animal to be like that

[knotty locust]

and I’m synonymous

what does anomalous mean again

[acoustic osprey]

not normal / deviating

[lethal moat]

Out of the ordinary

[hexed forge]

Unusual behavior/trait

Something like that

[acoustic osprey]

humans are naturally anomalous yet order-making creatures

[hexed forge]

3 Different definitions were given to you

[knotty locust]

[acoustic osprey]

it's why we will never be truly satisfied

[lethal moat]

Shirley is abnormally large/strong and aggressive, Dean is abnormally intelligent, and is also disadvantaged in some way, but those traits aren't immediately observed

I am of the belief that Dean is blind

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-i-seriously-doubt-that-doubt-seriously-vince-gif-22879335

[muted reef]

Sensitive skin anybody? (referring to Dean)

[lethal moat]

Dean consistently gets mildly irritating rashes

[muted reef]

Bad case of itch...elsewhere

Tiny arms ain't got nothing to help with

[acoustic osprey]

from Dons original comment
it seems more so physically broken (like being blind, or some sort of externally issue)
rather than being immunocompromised

[lethal moat]

Fragile bones, being a runt, blind, etc, something debilitating

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[hexed forge]

Maybe blind in 1 eye. But not both.

[lethal moat]

Why not?

[hexed forge]

How would Dean survive being completely blind

He is not an N-strain.

[lethal moat]

He's one of the first, he could get special treatment for the sake of study being necessary

[hexed forge]

Severely doubt it.

[lethal moat]

Shirley could have crippled him at some point

[muted reef]

Are they siblings

[lethal moat]

Same batch

[hexed forge]

Yes

They were from the same batch of eggs and can be counted as siblings.

Don described them as siblings too iirc.

[hexed forge]

Just checked, he did.

[wicked brook]

Makes me think there would be degradation to the EIP the more it is used and transferred

[muted reef]

Yeah you start to become animal rather than man

[wicked brook]

I wonder if the goal was to achieve immortality in some fashion or make a kind a super soldier

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
what is/how would you describe the degradation of the mind

[lethal moat]

Could tie into this #isle-lore-theories message

[wicked brook]

Slowly going insane, losing memories, cohesion, sense of self breaks down until your just a smart animal

[muted reef]

Dopamine from murder

[wicked brook]

Eventually death, too corrupted to transfer or copy

[acoustic osprey]

losing memories
or just there is too many that you no longer cannot fathom your past anymore

up to the point that you may not even be able to cope with the present

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

[wicked brook]

The memories for each life may be erased to slow the degradation but it wouldn’t stop it I don’t think

[snow jasper]

your brain hasn’t got enough storage

[acoustic osprey]

then what good is having a unique profile/consciousness without their prior memory?

what is you besides a large set of unique memories that tie connection to the physical you to the spiritual/conscious you

[lethal moat]

Unformed clay is easy to mold

[snow jasper]

but i dont think EIP‘s would have been around long enough for. any dementic effects to apear

[wicked brook]

Having any profile to begin with, using the EIP as an operating system without which the body is brain dead

[snow jasper]

literally just uploading a biological file

unless blade runner theory…

[muted reef]

Lets be honest here in the lore how fast do the dinos mature? If it's not that long then the amount of time that AE was up and running with EIPS would be like a decade or few so you'd probably have lived many short lives

[wicked brook]

Oh I wouldn’t consider it me, just a copy I believe the body is an intregal part of the self

[acoustic osprey]

then you're just creating new consciousness
there is no point in the need of EIPs being connected to any persons' mind then

at this point
you're just making some sort of psuedo/humanesque-ASI

this is under the idea that EIP =/= brain

more so just consciousness

[wicked brook]

It’s a stop gap, they don’t have the tech or knowledge to make one from scratch

Like in halo where to make an ai they have to scan and destroy a human brain

[acoustic osprey]

Why would you want to become an EIP then? if you know you won't exist

[wicked brook]

I wouldn’t

[acoustic osprey]

i understand some would do
but on a larger scale? A majority of people wouldn't

[lethal moat]

Depends
Is an exact copy the same thing as the original or not?

[wicked brook]

We are assuming the people in the lore had a choice in the matter

They could have used death row inmates

[dense nexus]

what if they didn’t want to

[wicked brook]

Very dark indeed

[lethal moat]

Presumibly, they chose to sign the contract

[wicked brook]

Why I think death row inmates

[dense nexus]

why would AE care about their consent

[lethal moat]

Would you trust them to do as they're told?