isle-lore-theories

[lethal moat]

Tapwing’s story was a combination of tisso and hyper

This is all just theory at the moment

[meager junco]

Wasn’t how she was made basically-wait no that’s troodon lore

Was gonna say the “what if we did this with animal X”

[lethal moat]

Yep

Now that Don’s gone, I have laundry to do, which means the funny theory crafting comes into play

[icy onyx]

Rump was the matriarch the whole time

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/once-upon-a-time-rumplestiltskin-mr-gold-magic-all-magic-c-omes-with-a-price-gif-17585318

[meager junco]

Omg I’ve been talking in here for 4-5 hours without even looking at the time lol

Games been paused since then

[lethal moat]

Time flies when you’re having fun

[meager junco]

Got some good info so happy fella here

[lethal moat]

Hold up, I got a replicator playlist

There we go, laundry time, I’ll be sure to let you guys know if I get anything good

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/lJtBsvdeXpS.gif

[meager junco]

Don did you end up watching more of the podcast?

Or listening I should say lol

[pseudo fable]

I put it on a few times in the background a while ago. I can't say I recall much of it now.

[meager junco]

Ah that’s gtk tho

[pseudo fable]

https://open.spotify.com/track/2zHizKqF5xHpa0OuW9GgFi?si=050f363a9a254102

[lethal moat]

Most of it is kind of memey songs that fit a general vibe, I’ll be sure to listen to that song and see how it fits in

That song is pretty sick, a good change of pace for the playlist

I’ll slide it in right after “It’s tough to be a god”

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bmm0X.gif

[lethal moat]

I did tell you most the songs were memey

The mind electric is another decent song in the playlist

Hold up, I should toss some Rimworld soundtrack in there

Probably the best atmospheric music I know

[meager junco]

I searched it up cause I was like “hey I’ll listen to this new song”
I didn’t know it was from that movie lol

[lethal moat]

Just watched it for the first time this year

Reminded me of a dnd campaign

[meager junco]

I think I was like 7 or 8 when I last watched it

Good movie tho(can barely remember it)

[lethal moat]

Not something my parents let me watch, but it was fun

But back to isle lore

[icy onyx]

Lore of the floating rocks ive been finding

they must fight against flying fish

[lethal moat]

I am desperate for some sort of account of someone getting lost or surviving an incident on the island, I want to know what that person did to let them survive

Definitely not so I can write a short story on it

[icy onyx]

it is an amazing story trope/theme to write about, good taste

[lethal moat]

Wake up from a concussion to a compy biting the soft part of your upper arm because it thought you were dead and now you have a decent chunk of flesh missing

[meager junco]

I kinda have like a little rp going in my head when I play gen 2 in it’s current state, basically he was left when AE packed up all their stuff now he must survive on this island and fend for himself

[icy onyx]

good chekhov's gun oppertunity with that

[lethal moat]

Get to extraction and wait for rescue

[lethal moat]

That’d be a fun community event

[lethal moat]

Yeah, I don’t imagine an infected wound would smell very nice, and I don’t think dinosaurs would ignore the smell

[meager junco]

Things like different game modes could be fun, for example like you said, an extract mode. Where you start let’s say east, and have 30 min to get to the pickup on the west side while avoiding dinos(would have to be in a much more small contained map tho)

[lethal moat]

You know what, maybe an eye would be more realistic

[icy onyx]

im sure certain species in particular would take interest in rot and infection

thatd be a set up for a "antagonist" or danger the MC would have to deal with

[lethal moat]

Grungo, the fat ceratosaurus

[icy onyx]

[lethal moat]

The story ends when the main character is trampled to death by an Allo who kills Grungo

I don’t think a single main character has survived to the end of any of my stories

It has occurred to me that I write to send a message rather than to entertain

[icy onyx]

I tend to do that too ive noticed, friends always point it out to me whenever i do

its a habit

[lethal moat]

Me: writes a story
MC: Does anything to progress the plot
Me: The beatings will continue until morale improves

[icy onyx]

suffering builds CHARACTER so you will have more!!

[lethal moat]

The fun part about the isle short story, is that depending on how the rest of the lore fills out, I can have the same character suffer over and over

“This is the story of Samantha, she exists inside a machine, but will experience the world over and over through different bodies.”

[icy onyx]

Game world has lots of opportunity thats for sure. Been waiting for more concrete answers to come out personally

[lethal moat]

Thus the reason I haven’t written anything

But how you play is quite literally a story, you don’t need to invent a plot, play and get it, then just fill out descriptions with how you want the reader to feel

Along with some creative liberty

[icy onyx]

Agreed. hard not to just play a story in mind during gameplay. every interaction, every struggle. despite not being labeled as an RPG, the freedom is there.

[lethal moat]

[timber spade]

Project Zomboid moment

[lethal moat]

Any survival game can be interpreted as a story generator

[icy onyx]

Games each share a similar tone though, no matter how long you live or what you do, you will eventually die

[lethal moat]

The end is never

[knotty locust]

@modern rover god i love this idea so much

literally fornite bus-dropping a bunch of gen 1s into hostile territory

[strange shell]

Wait wait
AE has a use for Gen1 ???
I was convinced they were some sort of unwanted byproduct or a failed attempt at something

[knotty locust]

if you look around where dondi'is messages are, it appears that depending on which branch of AE youre communicating with, they have different uses

#isle-lore-theories message

[modern rover]

Maybe they are, but maybe it's a happy accident

[strange shell]

"Oops I accidentally made giant mutant cannibals"
"Cool, we needed more interns anyways"

[lethal moat]

There are multiple types of different gen 1 for multiple uses, I get the feeling they were very intentional

At least after a certain threshold was reached

[modern rover]

Still could be a happy accident

[lethal moat]

Initially, I think gen 1 might have been an accident, but then AE figured out they can be used

[modern rover]

If you make something by accident then find out it's useful, there's no reason to not continue making more kinds of that thing you never thought was useful

[lethal moat]

That sounds potentially right

[lethal moat]

We also have two Rival companies for AE

Fun times to update lore doc tomorrow probably

[icy onyx]

[lethal moat]

I should have enough time to give Isaac perms before work tomorrow, so he’ll probably take care of anything I don’t get to

[acoustic osprey]

Yay

[lethal moat]

By tomorrow I mean later today

[acoustic osprey]

Likely tomorrow for me though lol

[lethal moat]

8ish hours?

Yeah, that should be tomorrow I think

[knotty locust]

RF and EC right

i can hazard a guess at what RF means

[lethal moat]

Shoot

[knotty locust]

ragnarok freighting or something

and then their company is all norse-ish inspired

EC could be like, egyptian inspired

[lethal moat]

I’m going to wait and see what happens

For now, I sleep

[knotty locust]

no you wont

[acoustic osprey]

I have a lady friend who loves ancient Egyptian stuff
I could probably ask her what a possible "E" could mean

[knotty locust]

i also had the stray thought just then of ye olde englishe fairyfolk tales

with English Csomething

[acoustic osprey]

I had down Kemetic Corp
but with a C

but Don said no

[acoustic osprey]

practically pagan celtic mythos

i forgot the specific pagan name for them

[knotty locust]

in deed brother.............

[acoustic osprey]

I guess just celtic
but also reference to yr hen cywir

you could use the celtic /welsh word "cywir"

which translates to "correct"

I.e
Cywir Corps

->
"The Correct Corporation"

[acoustic osprey]

^ yr hen cywir being very romano-britannic
I wouldn't imagine Don using it honestly lol. It's very obsurce

basically a more celtic way of saying "the old ways"

[plush widget]

Does anyone have the coordinates for the allo camera?

From the dibble trail cam vid

[acoustic osprey]

it's gone
but sure

[plush widget]

Any pictures of it?

[plush widget]

https://tenor.com/view/starship-troopers-yes-sir-salute-thank-you-sir-gif-15749283

[acoustic osprey]

yay

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[neon gorge]

what a first thing to see in the ILT

[acoustic osprey]

ILT...

[neon gorge]

im lazy

and tired

[acoustic osprey]

that's not what that means

[neon gorge]

thats what i am

Isle Lore Theories - ILT

[acoustic osprey]

no

[neon gorge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

why

[neon gorge]

what would you like me to call it then

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[neon gorge]

oh?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[neon gorge]

so this place is now called "oh"

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[neon gorge]

oh

[snow jasper]

No.

[acoustic osprey]

thanks run

[hexed forge]

Oh

I missed some more gen1 stuff while sleeping

Will check it out later

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

Imagine if Colossus was actually turned into a giant lobster...

[knotty locust]

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-ebirah-horror-of-the-deep-ebirah-swim-swimming-gif-27244180

[hexed forge]

Mmm

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-final-wars-ebirah-ground-slash-soldiers-gif-23143579

[hexed forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

So Gen1s are used for multiple different purposes by different people

The people bought it from AE, since gen1 is used as a commercial product in AE.

While also being used as a weapon.

Thats all I understand so far about Gen1s

In that conversation

#isle-lore-theories message Made to be a self-defense weapon..

YOU PINGED HIM!

[plush widget]

SHHIIIIII

[hexed forge]

Delete the message

[plush widget]

i was playing BoB

[knotty locust]

still pings

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/theworldmayneverknow-idk-goodquestion-gif-5415227

[fast forge]

I don't see it this way
I see it as different people have different ideas of what the project is about

[hexed forge]

I know, but just.

Shhh

[hexed forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

"Several useful things"

Well, used for several different things in that context

[fast forge]

you can have multiple uses for a thing that was only engineered with one purpose

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

Mmmm yes

[fast forge]

My take is that someone told corporate heads that they were totally making Gen 1 for medical use, and then made a private security force (or whatever) instead

[hexed forge]

They are still able to be used for other tasks right?
And Don described gen1s as a commercial product.
So I wonder if AE sells gen1s or atleast sells the product as a service.

(X company pays AE to do Y with gen1s; a service)

[fast forge]

My guess? Gen 1 have the ability to regenerate rapidly, including organs, and AE is selling the organs for organ transplants
Much cheaper than creating a humanized pig or whatever

Effectively having an animal you can repeatedly harvest organs from

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm, maybe.

[fast forge]

you could even engineer them specifically to be universal donors, so you don't have the risk of transplant rejection

[hexed forge]

But how different would gen1 organs be from a human organ?

Would they be the same?

[hexed forge]

Oh wait I for some reason just saw this message that answers my question

uh, maybe a bit blind

[fast forge]

If they are made to be organ donors, they could be close enough to be identical
Heck some people today are walking around with pig organs

[hexed forge]

👍

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/977092952344109114/1268504819979517983/nessie.gif

[hexed forge]

Average pvp experience,

People launching themselves from a canon and overshooting.

[acoustic osprey]

(he killed him - the guy sailing died immediately)

[hexed forge]

Wtf

[acoustic osprey]

look at the healthbar lol

also
that's one of THE best OCE SoT players (the guy who killed him)

[hexed forge]

Did he use a blunderbuss or something

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

Ah makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[patent ginkgo]

man this is so isle lore

[hexed forge]

I dont understand how people are that good

[acoustic osprey]

6k+ hours on SoT

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[acoustic osprey]

#evrima-sa

[patent ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1267993418924163082/juvseizure.gif

[hexed forge]

#legacy-servers hop on legacy

[acoustic osprey]

NO

[hexed forge]

oh

Isle-discussion is going insane again

So, any lore discussions.

[acoustic osprey]

no

[hexed forge]

I see

So its likely that we might see a building like this at the injection site from the dibble video.

Either that or they were dropped off via some different method.

[acoustic osprey]

potentially

or they were made in a location within Gateway and moved to the injection site

[hexed forge]

I find that odd

[acoustic osprey]

as the DTA seems to be for temp housing
and not releasing into the wild

[hexed forge]

Then why release them on the beach

It seems odd

[acoustic osprey]

I don't really
They could've been made in Perm, for example, which would be a very controlled environment and ecosystem

then to test "for real", they send out to the wilderness

[hexed forge]

Then they would release them right next to the perimeter

Like straight out of Perimeter

[acoustic osprey]

not exactly, on paper we don't really know of fenced off areas and rules of where "X" animals are allowed to roam around

Dibble video Dibble locations are a bit 50/50
because we know that map isn't and wasn't the final map grid

so the locations may not be hard confirmed lore

[hexed forge]

mmmmmmmm

[acoustic osprey]

just that the general idea of the Dibbles moved around Gateway to "X" location

[elder notch]

on the map you made the dibble video was on H14-H15

[hexed forge]

The dibbles in the video were at H15 yes

[hexed forge]

Fair

[elder notch]

But on the video said that was F5

[hexed forge]

Thats a mystery

We dont know what F5 is... thats the biggest mystery so far.

[elder notch]

I thought that was the sector

I mean, that was wrong on the video

[fast forge]

Injection site could just be a wild location that they thought was suitable for introduction
Those buildings are for holding between during transportation
So the Dibbles might have been in one of these on Gateway or another island, but I think the injection site is just the place where they dropped them off

https://tenor.com/view/release-the-turtle-viralhog-let-go-of-the-turtle-releasing-it-into-the-wild-gif-26311951

[hexed forge]

Mmm, dropped them off how tho. Helicopter?

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/normandy-ww2-operation-overload-france-gif-5135131

like you might do with cows

[hexed forge]

Ahha, yeah thats more likely.

Funny to imagine 15 helicopters

[lethal moat]

I find the idea of dibble splashing down in the ocean funny

[hexed forge]

Now this tree... seems a bit too big for swamps lmao.

[lethal moat]

So, Errant 291 might be a spy, and it might not be on Gateway

And I’m still of the belief that the hyper fences were broken by people, maybe we’ll get more clues with the Dock’s

[hexed forge]

Leaning towards it being on gateway, specifically Perimeter.

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[hexed forge]

And if its not... Then I would assume Olympus is an island, and the "map" is of Olympus.

[lethal moat]

Could be

[hexed forge]

We shall never know

[lethal moat]

Maybe one day

Lllrfl might help us figure out what island it is

[fast forge]

I see Olympus as the main center of operations on Gateway

[hexed forge]

Huh

Lllrfl?

[lethal moat]

Probably, given the name

Logistics

[hexed forge]

In AUGUSTUS, the user was from Olympus.

What counts as external connection? From a location not on gateway?

I feel like if Olympus was on gateway, then the user wouldnt need external connection to access the H4 database.

[fast forge]

No, I think they were off gateway entirely, and accessing the Olympus network remotely

[hexed forge]

Its an Olympus user

A user from Olympus

Thats if the Living Roadmap login screen is accurate tho

The living roadmap video might not be accurate

[fast forge]

no, you see the Olympus designation after they are logged in

That might just be the drive they are accessing

[hexed forge]

On the bottom?

Thats the User name

And I would assume that the higher ups in olympus wouldnt use their actual User ID so they just use Olympus as an ID

[fast forge]

Nah that's info about the computer itself
For example this is a classic Windows bootup
No login has been entered at this point, and you can see hardware info at the bottom in the beginning

[hexed forge]

You are comparing it to a real life layout, which I dont think AE's version is a 1:1 replica.

[fast forge]

for example, i430VX is a type of motherboard

[hexed forge]

Its not a 1:1 replica of the real life version

[lethal moat]

If it's for computer bootup, unless it was the replicator, it makes most sense to be accurate to real life, and even then, replicator might just be strong computer

[fast forge]

I still have no idea why you'd assume it's the login

[hexed forge]

If it was then this entire section is inaccurate

[hexed forge]

Because of the living roadmap video

[lethal moat]

Also, the lore doc is up to date and Lightclaw has editing perms

[hexed forge]

👍

[hexed forge]

Its not accurate to real life.

[lethal moat]

How so? I'm not seeing the issue here

[fast forge]

okay that's evidence, yes

[hexed forge]

.....

You wouldnt be able to access a camera system from the "bootup sequence"..

[lethal moat]

That only occurs after bootup correct?

[fast forge]

Living roadmap convinced me, it clearly shows the login and then the same login appears in the bottom left

[hexed forge]

What occurs? The camera system? After the bootup sequence in real life it would open this

In AEs version, there seems to be no dedicated bootup sequence

[fast forge]

The login might just have olympus in the name
Like how when I use my work email, it has the name of the company

[lethal moat]

If that computer's only job is to manage the cameras, I don't think it's an issue if they made their own Operationg System solely to access those cameras

[hexed forge]

Yep!

[lethal moat]

It doesn't have to be windows, they can make their own

[fast forge]

it's def not windows

[hexed forge]

Its not its only job since it can access a database, Global AE research database.

The computer can do much more than just open cameras...

It can view reports, as shown in Augustus..

[lethal moat]

Even then, they totally can have their own OS for it

[hexed forge]

Yeah they can

[lethal moat]

I'm not worried about it

[hexed forge]

So its not accurate to real life.

[lethal moat]

Companies can make their own OS irl, most choose to use windows, but it's not the only option (Linux is mean)

[fast forge]

Yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=redR1hjJuQw&t=2s

[hexed forge]

Watch tiktok too!

Appearently

[hexed forge]

My point is that the "bootup sequence" isn't accurate to the real life ones that we see. So therefore, we cant compare Real life to AE's OS system.

AE most definitely has their own OS system

[lethal moat]

I'd say that applies to a lot more than just the computers

[hexed forge]

Yeah

Cant assume that Real Life is a 1:1 replica to AE's OS system that we see is my point.

Im not sure on whats your point right now

[lethal moat]

I'm agreeing

[hexed forge]

oh

[lethal moat]

We never got to a solid replicator discussion last night

[hexed forge]

The replicator replicates.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-you-should-leave-tim-robinson-you-sure-sure-sure-about-that-gif-10141155136692995405

[hexed forge]

yes

[lethal moat]

Alright, what does it mean to replicate something

[hexed forge]

Replicate an EIP

Or body

[lethal moat]

I’d have given a less specific answer tbh, we still know so little

Which is why I wanted to bring it up last night

[hexed forge]

We talk about EIPs and Replicator Daily Rumple... Im tired boss...

https://tenor.com/view/green-mile-im-tired-boss-michael-clarke-duncan-gif-2375696290766999196

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/we-know-absolutely-nothing-ashley-crosby-dave-crosby-claire-and-the-crosbys-the-crosbys-gif-26146671

[hexed forge]

Don should ban the words replicator and EIP...

A punishment for not playing L4D2

[lethal moat]

Hey hey hey

Who’s side are you on

[hexed forge]

Do you produce lore for this game?

I dont think so...

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

Alright, into the pit with you

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/yeet-lion-king-simba-rafiki-throw-gif-16194362

[hexed forge]

The three lore amigos

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

Outfits made by @snow jasper

[lethal moat]

Skrungly

[acoustic osprey]

Android!!

[lethal moat]

AE’s just cool like that

[hexed forge]

Mmm

[lethal moat]

Wonder if AE’s done anything that went so off track they let it out of the vat and go “what the hell was that”

[hexed forge]

Ben:

[hexed forge]

Also maybe the Matriarch?

In Evrima it was something unexpected and wasnt planned at all perhaps.

They were just testing the Tissoplastic strain and somehow ended up with the Matriarch.

Might be an accident

Might also be completely on purpose.

[meager junco]

I’d say what rump said about Gen 1, maybe an accident at first or not what they were aiming for, but ended keeping her anyways because shes actually quite important in terms of their research and what they’re trying to do

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-ross-painting-yas-wisdom-art-gif-4514528

Or accidents that steal your liver, same thing

[muted reef]

Whats poppin

[lethal moat]

Talking about stealing organs

[muted reef]

Speaking of, when is gore getting V2 I wonder? Scars, more adaptive gore and all that. I imagine it isn't on their priority but it'd be awesome to see The Isle turn into the Boys

[lethal moat]

Full skeletons going to be great

[muted reef]

I just want the transition from corpse to bone to be more...y'know not disappeary

I made up that word

Proper flesh chunks would be cool too. Anyway back to lore

[hexed forge]

Don said they were on purpose tho, they were overengineered on purpose

[lethal moat]

They might have gone for gen 2 initially, then settled with gen 1 when that’s what they got

[hexed forge]

That sounds like an accident

And not the "Made on purpose" factor

[fast forge]

So I'm over here at the far east coastal pond, and I'm not so sure any more that all of the screenshots from the devblog are in this location?
I'm having a hard time matching landmarks

[hexed forge]

Don confirmed it

[lethal moat]

They can be made purposely after the fact that they are accidentally created

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

And the context being:

[muted reef]

May as well get their moneys worth

[hexed forge]

Or should we just throw out the context with Don as always...?

[hexed forge]

The context is specifically referring to them being created

Not continued making them after an accident

[lethal moat]

They can be made on purpose and not be what you expected

[hexed forge]

That sounds like an accident....

A failure..

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-ross-happy-accidents-gif-7215839

[patent ginkgo]

Didn’t Don literally say that Gen 1 were created as a retaliatory measure

[hexed forge]

He did.

He specifically said overengineered.

[muted reef]

Stop adding periods right now

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167557586699178054/1268418889146961930/image0.jpg?ex=66ad0365&is=66abb1e5&hm=5ce41171a9f60c0a72d242d434d4b672411c5c86f84f27ccd6b56c828e04e0e1&

[hexed forge]

I will do the exact opposite of your statement now.

[muted reef]

[hexed forge]

Just adding on.

[lethal moat]

Sounds like first one thing then another

[patent ginkgo]

So then I wonder if Gen 2 are the final version of the initial vision that Gen 1 were created to fill, being a retaliatory product

[lethal moat]

That’s my initial assumption

[muted reef]

The new and improved? They seem more like dirty workers instead

[patent ginkgo]

Or the development of both split into two simultaneous products at some point

[muted reef]

If Gen 1 and 2 were intentional whats that make the Eyeless

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[lethal moat]

The replicator doing it’s own thing?

[hexed forge]

Gen 1.5,

Perhaps a mutated gen1, that happened on its own.

[patent ginkgo]

I’m assuming the eyeless are simply a version of Gen 1

[muted reef]

Ik about the Gen 1.5 part, but yeah it could be anything honestly

[muted reef]

Don has said it's a different variant right though? 1.5

[patent ginkgo]

Maybe

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/upgrades-robots-gif-21291099

[muted reef]

AE made the eyeless right? It wasn't like the echidna or smth

[hexed forge]

Anyways, I will still believe that gen1 were created on purpose unless more evidence shows up of it being otherwise.

[lethal moat]

We know less about the eyeless than we know about the matriarch

[hexed forge]

We dont know

It could be just a random thing that happened on its own

[muted reef]

I hope they're kept. Even if they aren't what they originally were planned to be...we still have the V2 of Gen 1

[meager junco]

I mean he didn’t exactly confirm but he did answer to that response of mine

[patent ginkgo]

And what happens if that answer itself hits AE?

Or, AE hits AE

Just a thought

[lethal moat]

Eyeless are still planned

[muted reef]

[hexed forge]

Hahah... ha..

[meager junco]

Also with how diverse some sectors of AE are, I’m starting to think there’s not just one goal but a few goals they’re trying to achieve, and each has a different task

[patent ginkgo]

I’m sure

[lethal moat]

If they’re guard dogs, I don’t think they care where the people are from

[meager junco]

There’s probably one main big goal but other goals are almost, if not, just as important

[muted reef]

That could've been the benefit of having gen 2. They'd probably care

[hexed forge]

Fix Climate change anddd perhaps become the leading company in pharmaceuticals

Beat their rivals.

And by beating I mean Airdropping a bunch of 9 feet tall rabid humans on their facilities.

[muted reef]

Leading company of the planet (apollo not AE)

[patent ginkgo]

I think the main goal of AE is similar to the main goal of the isle:
Survive

[meager junco]

Yeh we know they’re trying to achieve some sort of medical goal as well as the climate

[meager junco]

Honestly, very true

[hexed forge]

Wdym?

[lethal moat]

AE does a lot at once

[muted reef]

Thats what any company wants

[patent ginkgo]

They likely just branched out in the past and just kind of had a hand in everything

[hexed forge]

What do you mean by survive..?

[muted reef]

Keep the company running

[lethal moat]

Secure the future

[meager junco]

Save the world or at least, their own hides

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[meager junco]

The Rich do crazy things!

https://tenor.com/view/the-muppets-kermit-the-frog-angry-pissed-off-stressed-gif-5697284

[patent ginkgo]

Neuro

[muted reef]

I wonder how Apollo came to be

[hexed forge]

One of the crazy things is airdropping a bunch of 9 feet tall rabid humans on their rivals...

[meager junco]

Facts

[hexed forge]

Sorry I cant stop talking about the airdropping part.

Its just so funny to imagine

[patent ginkgo]

Only as a very rare occurrence methinks

[muted reef]

Just look at what boeing did

[lethal moat]

If you’re on one of their islands and you aren’t supposed to be, or too close to their island, that’s their fault

[patent ginkgo]

What’s all this talk with Boeing

[muted reef]

I mean are they 9 feet tall? Seems like an 7-8 foot range

[patent ginkgo]

Did I miss something

[meager junco]

They’re maybe more like 8 ft honestly

[hexed forge]

Who said anything about being in AE's territory..

[meager junco]

Hard to tell off that sheet

[muted reef]

Yeah 9-11 foot range seems more like eyeless

[hexed forge]

They are dropping them in hostile territory entirely..

Its not like "Wah oh, you got too close to our islands!! Get yeeted!"

[lethal moat]

Remote base #isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

But they also drop them on hostile territory entirely

[muted reef]

Two workers complained about stuff on the planes. Both found dead each to a "suicide" (they were taken care of by the company). So it isn't far fetched for apollo to do the airdropping

[lethal moat]

True

[meager junco]

Either 7 and a half or 8 is my guess, around 170-200 lbs but that’s kinda low in terms of health stats so maybe double it

[patent ginkgo]

Almost sounds like a war of attrition against other companies/powers at this point

[muted reef]

Guess for gen 1 right?

[meager junco]

Yee

[muted reef]

The eyeless definitely seem larger

[patent ginkgo]

Oh hooray

[muted reef]

From what we had, now we know nothing

Imagine robo quetz carrying a gen 1 on it's back and dropping it off on the enemy that'd be so wacky

[meager junco]

I’d say they’re prob a bit bigger, if not, a bit more built as they’re “evolved” Gen 1 in a way but evolution doesn’t always make you bigger

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks

[meager junco]

Yw

[muted reef]

Btw do we know robo quetz's purpose

[patent ginkgo]

So, I’m thinking that the RF is an organization

[hexed forge]

And the thing is, the governments are not even involved.

[meager junco]

Raven federation

Norse theme company

[patent ginkgo]

I’m sure governments have their own issues to deal with

[muted reef]

cough climate change

[hexed forge]

Im sure if a government spotted some 7 feet tall rabid human they would launch an investigation...

Just look at how much governments are addicted to aliens existing.

[patent ginkgo]

AE, EC, and the RF sound a lot like the initial company a, company b, and soldiers of fortune concept

[meager junco]

PETA finds one
“We gotta save these poor creatures!”

[patent ginkgo]

And I’m sure that investigation would swiftly find that there was no basis to it and that AE is actually doing the world a great favor

[muted reef]

Attention everyone the CEO died to a suicide this morning following the events against Apollos creatures

[knotty locust]

immediately takes it outback and shoots it

[hexed forge]

Doing a great favor by taking down companies...? By killing?

[muted reef]

Gen 1 steaks yummy

[patent ginkgo]

The power of the coin can make some funny words

[hexed forge]

Fair enough actually

[meager junco]

BUT THEYRE FRIEND SHAPED

[knotty locust]

with how peta works, they would just shoot it and throw it in the nearest ditch

[hexed forge]

Apollo just bribes the governments to shut up and let them do their own thing.

[knotty locust]

dogs are friend shaped, and 90% of every dog rescued by PETA is euthanised

[meager junco]

Damn that’s messed up

[hexed forge]

Rescued..

[knotty locust]

PETA needs to be abolished, and I’m pretty sure it’s labelled as a terrorist organisation now

[hexed forge]

Is it?

[knotty locust]

I’m almost certain of it

[muted reef]

Peta sucks

[knotty locust]

due to them stealing pets off the front porch of many houses, taking them to the pound, then putting them down within hours

[lethal moat]

This is why the dinosaurs are secret

[meager junco]

Actually that makes me wonder now if that’s who one of the rival companies might me, basically a terrorist activist thing who’s trying to sabotage AE

[patent ginkgo]

So, I’m going out on a limb here with the other Entities, but I’m thinking that EC is simply a rival company to AE, and the RF is a group/organization that simply either doesn’t like what AE is doing in some regard or wants to take advantage of AE’s work and so is a danger

[muted reef]

I'm wondering if it was another company that started the dinosaur trend and AE rolled with it too

[hexed forge]

That sounds totally possible

[lethal moat]

Maybe not dinosaurs specifically, but creating creatures maybe

[meager junco]

Trying to “save” these creations

[muted reef]

Maybe the dinosaurs were a boast. Like the equivalent of how America nuked Japan for a show of power

[lethal moat]

What if the replicator is stolen technology and that’s why AE isn’t in control or something

[knotty locust]

I theorised yesterday that RF stands for Ragnarok Freighting, with its own Norse inspired theming

And EC like, Egyptian or something

both the Egyptian and Norse lore are quite large

[patent ginkgo]

Would be cool but I doubt a transportation company is that important to AE

[meager junco]

I said raven federation as a joke

[muted reef]

We don't even know what it TRULY is do we

[hexed forge]

The RF potentially the organization that raids Gateway..?

@lethal moat s theory...(The fences being destroyed by humans theory)

[knotty locust]

Apollo Engineering

[lethal moat]

Pretty much

[knotty locust]

If AE has engineering in its name with all sorts of things in the background, surely a company can be freighting

[muted reef]

Thats purpose to gen 2

[hexed forge]

Wdym

[muted reef]

Fight back against the people invading

[patent ginkgo]

AE sticks to a lot of engineering things it seems

[hexed forge]

Nah, Gen1 would be better suited.

[lethal moat]

Anyway, think about all the horrible things AE has probably done to stay relevant and on top, I must go back to work, see you guys later

[hexed forge]

And also werent Gen2 made after the "Incidents"?

[lethal moat]

Unknown

[muted reef]

I mean 3 guys with guns against 3 guys with guns, or 3 guys with guns against buffed chimps?

[lethal moat]

I doubt gen 1 are on gateway as well

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

[meager junco]

Buffed,clawed, and twice as tall chimps

[hexed forge]

AIRDROP A BUNCH OF 7 FEET TALL RABID HUMANS ON RIVAL TERRITORIES KILLING SEVERAL PEOPLE AND RUINING THE RIVAL COMPANY!!

Oops capslock

[meager junco]

Don’t scream at me

[hexed forge]

oh

[meager junco]

Yes I pulled a you

[hexed forge]

sorry

[hexed forge]

Yeah, but I also doubt that Gen2 were defending the island.

I dont think AE was expecting it at all tbh.

[muted reef]

Bad long range cant use tools

[meager junco]

You are forgiven as you will feed my Rex cera steak

[meager junco]

We don’t know that yet

[muted reef]

It'll taste like vomit

[acoustic osprey]

Norse lore is a bit 50/50 in extensive knowledge
Mostly because Norse peoples didn't really record their stories much, in contrast to the Greeks with their writings
And the Egyptians with modern extensive research and at the time antiquity observation by the Romans

[lethal moat]

Alright, let’s run with that, if Gen 1 are human shaped, they’d be fairly good at hunting human sized things.
They can take out just the people and leave information/research intact

[muted reef]

I just realized spears exist

[hexed forge]

It depends ofcourse on if the fence destructions were even humans, because then we are just digging into a rabbit hole of nothing.

[acoustic osprey]

But
Celtic mythology is also cool...

[meager junco]

Hitting stick, throwing stick, clubbing stick

The options are endless

[lethal moat]

Then AE can come and clean up, taking any information or assets with them

[muted reef]

Gun shoot, options are now all gone

[meager junco]

Celtic?

[acoustic osprey]

Basically this...

[acoustic osprey]

They had mythology too!!

[hexed forge]

I dont think gen1 are smart enough to care enough about the destruction they are causing while killing.

[acoustic osprey]

It's as related as Norse is with Greek with Anatolian with Egyptian (Kemetism)

Aka. All pagan

[hexed forge]

Gen1.5 maybe are smart enough.

[lethal moat]

They might just be good at not disturbing human environments

[muted reef]

Natural alarms

[meager junco]

I just looked it up, it’s like Norse and Greek mythology in one

[hexed forge]

Their mission is to invade a human environment.

[meager junco]

Looks interesting

[muted reef]

Quietly?

[acoustic osprey]

I... literally just

[meager junco]

I was googling!

[hexed forge]

How do you think a 7 feet tall rabid human would kill a bunch of humans quietly..

[acoustic osprey]

All the religions said above are pagan
They're all culturally linked

[lethal moat]

Claws and numbers, as well as stealth

[muted reef]

They climb

[hexed forge]

I dont think they are smart enough to be stealthy/not smart enough to not cause damage in the process of the killing.

[meager junco]

Us Canadians just have stuff like bigfoot, wendigo ect…

[muted reef]

Then wouldnt there be liability in using them?

[hexed forge]

Gen 1.5 seems more likely to have stronger intelligence

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

Honestly
A bit like sami mythology

[hexed forge]

Explain further

[lethal moat]

Spiders are smart enough to be stealthy

[patent ginkgo]

How many Canadians worship Bigfoot

[meager junco]

Jesus Isaac you know like all mythologies LOL

[hexed forge]

Sir a spider is small as hell and its not a rabid, aggressive, blood thirsty creature.

[patent ginkgo]

Don’t have to be smart to be stealthy

[acoustic osprey]

Sami people are interesting!!

[lethal moat]

Tigers are smart enough to be stealthy

[meager junco]

I dont think I’ve ever met someone who actually believes in them

Wendigo tho, I’ve met a few

[hexed forge]

Tigers are not rabid, aggressive, or blood thirsty.

[patent ginkgo]

Really, lol

[meager junco]

Gonna look it up now

[muted reef]

There'd be damage if they were used on the island

[muted reef]

They literally look neurotenic so it seems highly likely

[lethal moat]

They can be all three of those things

[hexed forge]

Good

[patent ginkgo]

Crocodiles are quite stealthy

[muted reef]

Damage to their property

[meager junco]

Basically the same old same old, they hear a fox screeching and literally never have before, so they think that’s what it is lol

[acoustic osprey]

Yay

[hexed forge]

Why would they use them on their own property?

[patent ginkgo]

lol

[muted reef]

Invasions?

[acoustic osprey]

Think of them as the Basque of Scandinavia

[lethal moat]

Guard dogs

[meager junco]

Is that….Santa?

[hexed forge]

No. Just use a human with a gun.

[patent ginkgo]

I don’t think Gen 1 are guard dogs as much as y’all think

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[hexed forge]

I dont think they are guard dogs.

[muted reef]

You said earlier they'd use gen 1 instead of gen 2 for invasions like that lmao

[meager junco]

I love it

[hexed forge]

I think they are a weapon, a retaliatory weapon.

[lethal moat]

That sounds expensive and dangerous

[hexed forge]

Invade their own island...?

[muted reef]

Others invading them

[patent ginkgo]

More like attack dogs mixed with scary AE horrifying thing mixed with testing subject

[hexed forge]

Mmmm, my fault then.

[meager junco]

Lol guard dogs, AE designed

[hexed forge]

Yes!

[hexed forge]

Not guard dogs

Attack dogs, used for retaliation.

[patent ginkgo]

Guard dogs just seems difficult

Much easier to use armed people who can tell friend from foe

[hexed forge]

^

[patent ginkgo]

And who can think to intercept any measures against the company

[meager junco]

I mean they have probably more than just “attack” as a job, I’m sure they have multiple uses

[muted reef]

Gen 2 the guard dog and gen 1 the attack dog?

[hexed forge]

Again,

I dont think Gen1 are smart enough to actually behave properly.

[patent ginkgo]

Perhaps

[hexed forge]

Yesn't, sort of.

Gen2 can be used for much more than guarding.

While Gen1 are specifically attack dogs.

[muted reef]

Gen 2 the slave and gen 1 the attack dog

[patent ginkgo]

And test subject and scary deterrent

[hexed forge]

Aye, yep.

[patent ginkgo]

I doubt proper slave

EIPs may play a roll

[meager junco]

I liked rumps idea of placing them in spots they truly don’t want anyone being around, not even their own workers(at least not without proper precautions)

[hexed forge]

I wonder if there has been a company that was like "Oh shi... they have those things????(Those things being gen1) Oh hell nah we aint messing with em"

Effective deterrent

[patent ginkgo]

Yes exactly

[hexed forge]

mhmm

[patent ginkgo]

Perhaps, but I don’t think it’s enough of a safeguard

Coordinated humans can likely just shoot them from helicopters

[lethal moat]

My comparison of gen 1 to dogs is primarily that there are a variety of types of dogs with various specialized traits, like gen 1

[meager junco]

I meant areas like Tartarus, not in the open

[hexed forge]

Perhaps the government believes they are being made for a different reason.,,?

[patent ginkgo]

Deep down areas could work

[hexed forge]

If not the "Take money, and shut your mouth" theory.

[meager junco]

In the open it seems way too much a risk as they can climb very well and stay hidden from AE

[patent ginkgo]

I’m sure the general answer to “but what do the governments think?” Is just that they don’t think anything cause they got scared or payed into staying out of it

[fast forge]

or they don't know

[hexed forge]

Likely payed

[patent ginkgo]

That as well

[meager junco]

open the doors to tartarus
sees 1000 Gen 1s just staring at you

[fast forge]

and we know there is a timeline to all of this, so it could vary depending on what period in AE's history we are talking about

[patent ginkgo]

Don’t think governments are have much nuance in this story

[lethal moat]

I can see a lot of Apollo’s money being from government contracts, similar to Lockheed martin or pharmaceutical companies

[hexed forge]

If an important island of x company suddenly becomes inactive and many people died....

The government would likely be more than capable to send a satellite or a spy drone(Anything really) to check it out

Doubt they dont know

[patent ginkgo]

Or, you simply see lots of glowworms on the ceiling
And then pairs of them turn towards you
And then an arm reaches out
And then many, many more do as well

[fast forge]

how would they know those people died? you think companies have never covered up employee deaths before?

[muted reef]

Cough...boeing

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/black-friday-sale-after-thanksgiving-crowd-superstore-gif-15644638

[fast forge]

even Disney hides info when a person dies in their parks

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/boring-fun-door-stopper-gif-15958962981047409247

[lethal moat]

Companies like to be uncontested and unaffected by others

[hexed forge]

Im pretty sure hundreds of people dying over a day is not something you can easily cover up..

And im pretty sure the X company wouldnt stay quiet lmao

[fast forge]

ehhh, they could even just clone the employees for all we know

[hexed forge]

I wonder if there has been a company that knew that AE had done it to them, so they went towards the government and the government just acted like nothing happened because AE bribed em.

[lethal moat]

They would if they weren’t supposed to be there in the first place
If something happens off the record, it never happened

[hexed forge]

Im not talking about AE. Im talking about the rival company.

Thats assuming that the rival company has the genetic capabilities to replicate people.

[patent ginkgo]

Rival company might do the same

We quite literally know nothing about it except

“EC”

[hexed forge]

What if its just a pharmaceutical company?

[muted reef]

I actually noticed the similarities to tisso and wolverine...so now I'm maining tisso when they come out

[hexed forge]

And not a genetic company

[lethal moat]

Normal pharmaceutical companies kill tons of people every day

[hexed forge]

Be where.....They are on their own territory...

Im referring to AE airdropping on hostile territory... Not the old statement about AE airdropping on a small spy base.

[lethal moat]

Hostile territory isn’t the same as not on AE’s land

I’d describe the islands as very hostile

[hexed forge]

Pretty sure in the context Don was referring to the hostile territory being the Rival company territory.

[lethal moat]

Even then, AE needs to make sure it can’t be tied back to them, so no camera footage, no gen 1 corpses, no trace of their involvement

[hexed forge]

Or they could just simply bribe the government, the easy way.

[lethal moat]

Which brings up the issue of recapturing gen 1, but they might be trained or have EIPs or something

[lethal moat]

Will the other company accept those bribes?

I imagine the existence of EIPs has desensitized a great many AE researchers to death

[hexed forge]

Who said the other company needs to accept a bribe, the government could just simply ignore the other company OR make a story up.

The other company maybe doesnt even know AE bribed the government

[lethal moat]

The media does not care what the government has to say

Take pictures of mangled corpses and send it to the local news station, that’s a lot of clicks, the news would eat it up

[hexed forge]

So would they go explore the abondoned facility...? By themselves..?

[hexed forge]

Or what if AE just leaves them there, let them eat all the bodies, all the way to the bone. Maybe eat the bones even! And then they just die off and starve to death.

[lethal moat]

Camera footage, interviews, anything really, but if the area has any significance, and if AE isn’t incredibly careful, they’ll be able to see what happened and tie it back

[lethal moat]

That leaves gen 1 corpses

[hexed forge]

#isle-lore-theories message Solution for the corpses

[lethal moat]

And a lot of time

[hexed forge]

Mmm

Maybe a team from AE is sent to clean the island up.

Leave no trace

Would that work?

[muted reef]

I'm gonna design whatever tisso I have (let the reaper be playable I beg) to look like wolverine

[hexed forge]

Doubt the reaper would be playable

Doubt any assets of the trinity would be

[lethal moat]

That’s much more of a chance for it to be tied back to AE, but it could work, ideally, it’d be best to attack things the other company doesn’t want people to know that it exists

[muted reef]

Ik

Unless you can strain your gen 1

Tisso gen 1 would work for me I just want a humanoid tisso

[hexed forge]

Thats probably what AE does, attack the things of the other company that they dont want to reveal to the public.
Oh and also,
Bribe Government and then send an AE team to go clean up. The government could keep the other company busy while AE does the messy work of cleaning up quickly.

[lethal moat]

Keep govt out of it, but yes

[hexed forge]

Bribing the government seems like a thing that AE would most likely do tho.

[lethal moat]

If it’s bad enough, the other company will make the other company will make something up to keep the govt out as well

[hexed forge]

Rumple you should reply later when you are at break from work, seems like you are pretty busy at work right now. It would be better

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/visible-confusions-gif-24177109

Maybe Im reading it wrong

[lethal moat]

I just phrased it really weirdly

So basically, if AE interferes with something that the other company wasn’t supposed to be doing, the other company won’t report AE to anyone because then they’d have to tell whoever they reported to what they weren’t supposed to be doing
It’s like someone calling the cops to tell them someone else stole their drugs

No honor amongst thieves sort of thing

[hexed forge]

OH

Oh yeah it makes much more sense now, I assume that in those situations the government wouldnt be involved.

But what about situations where AE attacks something that the other company was allowed to do.

[meager junco]

Gives me this vibe

[hexed forge]

Interesting vibe

[lethal moat]

Don’t do that

[meager junco]

Omg discord being dumb

[hexed forge]

Fair

[lethal moat]

Or make it look like an accident

[hexed forge]

The backdoor of the plane accidently opened and they all flew out

[meager junco]

Was responding to this but discord said “nah”

[hexed forge]

Blame Jimmy

Specifically Dr. Jimmy Rumple

[lethal moat]

Dammit Jimmy

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/illgetyou-accident-gif-9654841

In game

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-chase-you-cant-catch-me-gif-22354553

[hexed forge]

Of course yes.....

[lethal moat]

Dockyard sewer tunnel moment

[hexed forge]

hahhaa

[lethal moat]

I would like gen 2 to have some reason to crawl down there, maybe to retrieve something or fix something

Or just sneaking past raptors

[hexed forge]

Sneaking past raptors to meet their mutated cousin, the troodon.

(Raptors and troodons arent even related but yes)

Troodon isnt even real so I can make it up

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/shawshank-crawling-tunnel-gif-17415483

[hexed forge]

Would love that

Only to find a nest of troodons

[lethal moat]

Be scary as hell if you hear noises

They’re behind you can you can’t turn around

[hexed forge]

oh god

They start biting the wrong spot 💀

[lethal moat]

Imma put that in a short story some time

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[lethal moat]

👞

[hexed forge]

I wonder how big the pipe system is under the docks

Hopefully big enough to get lost.

[lethal moat]

It probably ends in the ditch and somewhere at the ocean, in between can be a maze or just specific destinations, like manhole covers

[hexed forge]

mhmmm

Wonder if the docks will introduce a few more GUTS entrances

[lethal moat]

Please

Would be super cool

Especially if some are partially or fully flooded

[hexed forge]

Why would they be flooded

[muted reef]

Sons of the forest ahh vibe

[lethal moat]

Broken pipe, broken storm wall, lack of maintenance, etc

[hexed forge]

ehh, not too sure that would be possible

Unless the GUTS enterance is literally underwater somewhere

[muted reef]

Subways flood if not maintained for a few days

[hexed forge]

I dont think we have the same idea of where the GUTS enterance might be at docks

[lethal moat]

Doesn’t even have to be Docks, it rains a lot on gateway, if gutters/drains aren’t maintained, they will clog and things will flood, or at lead create standing pools of water

[hexed forge]

Pools of water seem possible

My guess is that there is a GUTS entrance at the enterance of the docks somewhere back there. Going into the mountain.

[lethal moat]

There’s a base near the bottom of the hill just northwest buried under the map there correct? Maybe there will be a guts entrance there surrounded by a small base, or that area you’re pointing at rn is that area that I’m mentioning, which seems likely

[hexed forge]

Mmm, I dont think there will be a GUTS enterance specifically in the middle of that small base.

Im thinking that it will go into the mountain range

Which is near the base yes

[lethal moat]

Alright, so we agree, but it does look close enough that the dockyard will probably extend over there, directly connecting into the mountain

[hexed forge]

Likely yes

If theres a GUTS entrance there then that would also be the deepest GUTS entrance currently on the map

[lethal moat]

I imagine it’ll slope down, especially if there are multiple layers like I hope there are

[hexed forge]

Do you mean slope up? Slope up from the entrance at docks

[patent ginkgo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1267993418924163082/juvseizure.gif

[hexed forge]

Well slope down also works

[lethal moat]

I’m saying most of the entrances will likely slope down, especially if it’s layered

[hexed forge]

ohh

[lethal moat]

Bedrock probably makes better support than whatever is closer to the surface

[hexed forge]

Clearly we all know that bedrock is indestructible, so of course it would be better support. Minecraft taught us all that.

But yes, you are right.

[acoustic osprey]

Depends
I imagine GUTS being like train tracks
Aka. All at the same height/altitude

So being through a mountain would be a bit inconvenient for moving under Gateway

[hexed forge]

Just make it slope up/down

There are likely multiple levels for GUTS

Perhaps 5 levels...

5 levels of clearance....

I like to look at the levels of clearance as the amount of things you can access on the island

[lethal moat]

Seems a bit too convenient , but maybe

[hexed forge]

While also being able to access information at different levels of course

[lethal moat]

Yeah, but some areas might have overlap, you can access the rec room level 1, records room level 2, lab at level 3, manager’s office level 4, and olympus transmitter level 5?

Having it be level based feels very arcady, like a dungeon crawl

[hexed forge]

mmmmm

So are you saying that the deeper you go, the higher the level seems arcady. Or just the entire levels of clearance seems Arcady(Gain access to more important things at higher levels)

[lethal moat]

The first thing, higher clearance coming with more access is fine, but having vast swaths of the map locked off because you don’t have a keycards seems a bit much, I think small areas around the map would be much better

[hexed forge]

Thats fair

Yea so hopefully the levels of clearance turn out to be like that. (Not the deeper you go the higher the clearance level)

[lethal moat]

Also makes it more of a challenge to figure out which keycard goes where, since you’ll have to check over all existing areas every time you get a better card

[hexed forge]

mhmmm

[lethal moat]

Also, now that we know projects are fairly separate, those keycards may be less “you’re this rank within the company” and more “this nature of area”

[hexed forge]

Maybe, maybe not

Then I dont think they would be numbered if it was seperated by "areas of expertise"

[hexed forge]

So gen1s will use nightvision,
I wonder how good is the NV compared to dino nv.

Would it be better? Relatively the same? Or worse

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/going-morb-gif-25805052

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/sh2-silent-hill-2-fog-gif-1321460155140227201

The devs should enable humans with the NV rework HT ngl.

Would be cool

Flashlight against reworked amazing night vision

Which one wins...

[rose crow]

I may be stupid but this was always here right?

[hexed forge]

Drop coords

[rose crow]

-49,812.139, 189,482.226, 22,551.236, by the bridge

[hexed forge]

Which bridge?

I'm on phone so can't check the coords rn

[rose crow]

right by the sanctuary

[hexed forge]

Ah, yeah that has been there.

Since release

[rose crow]

Dunno why it caught my eye this time lol

[hexed forge]

Maybe because you ran past it while playing as an adult dino, makes it look like it's small so you didn't see it.

While right now you are a small juvi galli

So it sticks out

[rose crow]

Yeah maybe, but usually when I spawn as baby,(specifically galli) I always go on the bridge to go to sanc but yeah I get what you mean

[hexed forge]

Possible other dock locations in my opinion:
-West Access
-Southeast island
-North of water access

This way it covers all the sides of the island, West, North, East, and south.

Some could be smaller than others.

Also what are the chances of patrol boats existing on Gateway?

Boats used by AE to patrol the islands coast.

Doesn't seem like it's outside the realm of possibilities

[fast forge]

I think a lot of the little docks on this map will probably be accurate

[hexed forge]

Honestly that might be way too many docks on there

Unless each one has a different purpose.

Maybe some being a patrol boat hub

(If AE uses patrol boats)

[fast forge]

it's really not that many, considering how much coastline there is

[hexed forge]

There's like 3 just in the east plains area

Well, I suppose you have a point

[fast forge]

2, one isn't on the coast, it's where that tower you found is located

and all of these are in locations that physically look like they could have a dock

[hexed forge]

I just don't see all of them being the same thing, like not all of the docks will be used for the same purpose.

The purpose being transporting supplies and etc from island to island

[fast forge]

I imagine they'll be like the current bases, in that there is some variation

[hexed forge]

The number of them is fine when I looked at it again.

[hexed forge]

Mmmm

[fast forge]

I was wrong, that tower is much further south, not on the concept map

[acoustic osprey]

not usually that helpful with tunnels
plus a lot more expensive

not only with monorails, being basically impossible for them
but for trucks/rigs as well

[hexed forge]

Different levels then

For monorail

[acoustic osprey]

i can only really imagine a GUTS tunnel going through a mountain if the place they enter from is real close to ocean level (sea level)

[hexed forge]

Which it is

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

Yea

Now I go to sleep, adios.

[acoustic osprey]

why

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/skydive-instructor-hanging-gif-24928948

[hexed forge]

I'm tired boss

[acoustic osprey]

during work? Do you want to be fired!?

[hexed forge]

I already worked my 12 hour shift while you were sleeping tho!

[acoustic osprey]

you are at work right now

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/not-anymore-madison-mitchell-annabelle-wallis-malignant-no-longer-gif-12722311660295947817

https://tenor.com/view/parachute-slide-into-dms-julien-delpech-bouloc-bouloc-skydive-gif-25555087

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fired-you're-fired-your-fired-cat-in-the-hat-dr-seuss-gif-445196468873550293

[lethal moat]

What if
Airstrip on island

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/oop-take-my-money-gif-23438077

abandoned airstrips are cool and I want one

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-jurassic-park-iii-jurassic-park-ben-ben-megaphone-gif-26801732

[lethal moat]

So, I did a little bit of reflecting

[acoustic osprey]

uh oh

[lethal moat]

Specifically on this

#isle-lore-theories message

Apollo is the god of prophecy, is he not?

[acoustic osprey]

of the oracle, of the prophecy, technically yes

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message
What if AE made promises that they would do things (save the world, make humanity better, etc) before they knew if they could do so, and now they’re struggling to bring into existence what they promised, and failing, because they don’t know what they’re doing
They’re moving too fast in an attempt to make a self fulfilling prophecy?

How much does AE cut corners to get what they need

[acoustic osprey]

basically the ultimate politician

[lethal moat]

Companies are people too

[dense delta]

can a full grown carno knock down a full grown teno?

[strange shell]

lore

[fast forge]

In America?
Legally speaking?
Yes

[hexed forge]

Please

[brave aurora]

i think so

[nimble fractal]

The more you think about it the more terrifying it becomes

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-goldblum-jurassic-park-jurassic-scientist-your-scientists-gif-11921883

Hubris and good intentions are quite the disastrous combo sometimes

Plus AE being a victim of their own making and not intentionally evil sounds a lot better than "AE evil" theories I've heard

[nimble fractal]

That's my fav theory

Sometimes it's too late to realize what you've done

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-star-wars-arrogance-your-arrogance-blinds-you-gif-7521418

[icy onyx]

Has it been talked about what kind of effect and/or influence the Replicator (AI iirc?) May have had/still has on the company?

Dunno what kind of AI world laws Dondi is cooking but still

[lethal moat]

It interacts with gen 1, but beyond that we don’t really know

[icy onyx]

I see thanks, was mostly just wondering if there was anything regarding if it's mostly just a tool for the company or if it has more impact in what the company does, or both (evolving)

[lethal moat]

I imagine it’s very significant given the scale of what it’s doing

And it’s role likely grows more important as they create more assets

[hexed forge]

Mmmmm

[hexed forge]

Ight time to start a lore conversation

Where do we think strain testing took place?

Somewhere on Gateway? Different island? Tartarus?

[acoustic osprey]

And has absolutely nothing to do with the base variety of creature it was derived from, commercially.*

at least, from what we can presume - from this part of the quote - that strain testing has it's own seperate area/aspect from, say, where such creature would've been made from

[hexed forge]

So Strains were tested and made at that location?

[acoustic osprey]

whatever and wherever it is

[hexed forge]

mmmm

[meager junco]

I like the idea of a “strain facility” meaning Tartarus is not the exact spot where they’re made, possibly still where they’re shipped off to, once they’re fully ready with a strain creature

[hexed forge]

So Strain facility being the location of where they are made, and Tartarus possibly being the testing location. Is that the idea?

[lethal moat]

Different island I’m betting

[hexed forge]

Im betting Tartarus

What was Tartarus in legacy lore?

[lethal moat]

Tartarus might be it’s own island

[hexed forge]

I doubt that

I still believe its under Gateway

Gateway to Tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

an island within an island

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1183969838935310447/1227050611195908248/togif-19.gif

Make this dog the guard dog of Tartarus.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[hexed forge]

brb, I think I remember making a map of some sorts. Gonna check

[meager junco]

That’s my idea yeh, basically step 1 is create them in a lab or something, step 2 growing them up/making sure they’re stable, then step 3 is relocating them in Tartarus

[meager junco]

Plus this makes sense with how many big cages we’ve seen so far, meaning they definitely do transport the bigger animals like sauropods or hypers

[hexed forge]

Im pretty sure a hyper is bigger than the massive cage at perimeter

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[meager junco]

I mean I’d have to see what hypers look like in evrima

But it wouldn’t be standing, basically like the Rex in the lost world, just tranquilized

Quality is a bit doodoo

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-rexy-blinded-by-the-light-helicopter-blinded-by-light-gif-23944875

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/din0-dinosaur-jurassic-park-gif-12688110

[lethal moat]

The anesthesia wearing off in a GUTS tunnel would be unfortunate

[meager junco]

I’m sure they have a sort of plan B, Ik in real life, over tranquilizing can cause death, and bigger animals are even riskier, because they require an ever higher dosage of the sedative

But this is a video game, and AE seems pretty advanced compared to your regular company

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/shock-serious-ready-are-you-ready-taser-gif-16517146

[meager junco]

The raptor intro scene with the big one, except 10 times as many people shocking the animal

[lethal moat]

Yeah

[meager junco]

SHOOT HER
takes out the rocket launcher

[lethal moat]

[meager junco]

Also we haven’t talked about hyper gun in a while

What do you think it is rump , a sort of energized railgun?

[lethal moat]

What if

Bolt gun strapped to their forehead while growing in a vat?

[meager junco]

Tap E to shoot VATS tank

[lethal moat]

Tap E to end the hyper before it escapes

[meager junco]

NO, it friend shaped 💔

[acoustic osprey]

Gas

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/mace-windu-star-wars-hes-too-dangerous-to-be-kept-alive-lightsaber-gif-16396106

[meager junco]

Hm not a bad idea

[acoustic osprey]

I rather imagine it being less a gun gun

More so something chemical

Fight fire with fire

[meager junco]

Maybe a “disease” gun, too tough to break from the outside. So destroy it from in

[acoustic osprey]

Because it'd just be a super OP gun
Incentivising to kill anything you want

If it was just a "gun"

[lethal moat]

Speed up their metabolism even more and starve them out faster

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/growing-old-getting-old-grow-old-old-man-becoming-old-gif-17885988

[meager junco]

Destroy the hypers metabolism sounds very plausible too, just ruin it from the inside sounds more plausible than, “FIRE AT WILL”

[valid geyser]

Poor will, always getting fired at

[meager junco]

Rip Will

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/you-may-fire-when-ready-tarkin-star-wars-rogue-one-gif-26239580

Hyper gun is actually the death star

[hexed forge]

Mmmm, might be efficient. Sort of like a gas? Chemical gas.

[lethal moat]

It’s way easier to attack the inside of an armored target than to attack the exterior

[hexed forge]

Mhm

[meager junco]

Yeh, I’d assume it’s something like that, not exactly a weapon that’s any use towards anything but a hyper

Either a man-made virus or chemical

[hexed forge]

Hunting lodge..

I wonder what the wall of nope is

Is it just a giant fence? Or something else.

And I wonder if pterasaurs even exist on the island

Since they could just fly over to the commercial area

Unless there is something that prevents them from crossing.

Robo-quetz...idk

[valid geyser]

If they do it’d be funny if they were like annoying seagulls stealing food and stuff

[valid geyser]

…………
-# quetz?

[hexed forge]

Robo-quetz protects the wall of nope maybe

Prevents pterasaurs from crossing mainly

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/plananx-ciws-gif-18207820

[hexed forge]

It secretly has a gun in its mouth.

[lethal moat]

Camera

I still think it’s used for covert surveillance

Bring back Quetz being stolen from another company, and use drone quetz to spy on their bases

Imagine playing on an island that doesn’t belong to AE, as a general 1 or gen 2

[hexed forge]

That's completely possible

[median shuttle]

maybe theres domes for pterosaurs, maybe those domes could have holes in them

[hexed forge]

Yeah but what if the rival companies don't even have dinosaurs

What if they are only a rival in pharmaceuticals and agriculture

[lethal moat]

Then keep drone Quetz on your own islands for a different reason

[hexed forge]

I'm going to assume that the hunting side is completely natural

And mostly untouched

[lethal moat]

I would like to see a tricked out hunting stand for rich guys

Basically a tree fort with air conditioning lol

[meager junco]

I forget was the agriculture specifically just crops or was livestock also something they worked with

[hexed forge]

We don't know, we just know it's agriculture stuff iirc. Nothing specific

[lethal moat]

We assumed agriculture

Because they started out with food and we know about botany

[meager junco]

I just couldn’t remember the exact things that were said and if don had said something about it