#isle-lore-theories
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I bet we can cram 6 people into the UTV
If you dont get shot by the people in the back yeah
Hear me out.
20 people on the big rig. Its possible.
Some hop on the hood of the rig, some on the top, yeah, like that gif ahhaha
Stack em on the outside
everyone with flashlights blinding the local wildlife
Including the megalania.
there are so many boulders on the roads on gateway 

š
Map isnt finished, 
Ye-Yeah, blind the local wildlife... blind megalanias.
Hows that good!! 
UTV and ATV with saddlebags are probably going to be my preferred, unless you can put saddle bags on the dirtbike
Mobile base inside of storage container hooked up to big rig pLEASE
This bad boy can fit so many corpses foolish Utahs trapped gen 1s boxes of food and ammunition inside of it
You forgot the
Hypsi hatchlings that I abducted
My bad
I do think a squad of 4 on dirtbikes and atvs could make good progress across the map, raiding bases and having mobile camps
Speed over defense
The cars looks good
I assume the bikes make way more noise than the other vehicles in the concept
I can see the UTV being slow, but having decent suspension, have a dude crouching in the back with a shotgun to defend and just keep it below 15 km per hour
depends if theyāre 2stroke or 4stroke
I would like to know the scale on the big rig, is it semi-truck sized or is it tow truck sized?
2 stroke sounds like a high pitched chainsaw while 4 strokes sound more like quad bikes/cars
compare it to a Western Star truck from australia on google images
should be the right truck if I recall
Semi truck size then
I think this is a decent comparison.
Western Star 4700SB
It's gonna be so fun zipping around the map on a dirtbike
It can be based off of something without being that exact thing
More developed roads would be sick
you one of 'em Lore Masters yet rumple?
GUTS would probably be the main method of transportation tho. I dont think a truck would go from west access to NE just by using a path on the surface.
Paths probably would be mainly used for surveillance and research tasks
So not every road has to be exactly flat and perfect.
What are the qualifications to be a lore master,
If its to get special information from Dondi, then yes, Rumple is a lore master.
I see
I want that cliffside concept from legacy, that was cool
Oh yeah, would be nice. But it looks a little weird, maybe its just my eyes.
Ight, gonna point out what neuro said.
The front fender is WAYYYY too close to the wheel.
who needs suspension when you can just wreck the front half of your vehicle
Otherwise looks pretty cool
Fair
honestly if i worked for AE and had to use that bike id cut that fender off
for cross referencing
lol
Yep
thx for that spike in anxiety
Hol up
Bike from the 80s
What if we drive single file, quad bikes down the monorail tracks
They will not be so well put together that you'd be doing that for a very long stretch at all. Would be super fun in a tunnel or two, probably.
Time to overthink that, the monorail track being destructed or the quads are not usable for long terms.
Iām betting monorail
Im betting that you cant use vehicles for a long period of time.
I thought of the bike breaking down at first, but I kinda settled on "the steering is jumpy and staying atop a monorail will be difficult"
monorail for sure
"They will not be so well put together"
yeah, the shocks and handlebars will be all weird and it doesn't steer so good
its a damaged monorail system, if you go the whole length at some point youre gonna fly off because theres no track
Either the monorail track isnt at its best state, or the vehicle.
We shall never know because Don will never confirm it and watch us suffer 
Or, why cant it be both.
well, yes, that's the more fun option I'm sure
Actually, Ima bet that its both.
if the track was damaged to the point that driving was not possible how would you be able to get through mutiple like Don said
its probably just the vehicle
Some sections of it might be damaged.
Not able to do a full loop around the island using the monorail. Gotta come to a stop at some point.
It could be both.
Both, yeah. But I did specifically mean the monorail track in that statement.
Aye, thanks for the confirmation. We wouldve gone insane.

Thanks, that would have been a multiple day long debate lol, will there be ways for us to make those vehicles better, maybe by cannibalising others for parts?
considering the bike looks like its from the 80s while the vehicles look heavily modern, you can imagine some of the vehicles are a tiny bit oudated
"Where the hell did my wheel go"
We'll see if vehicles are feasible for something other than decor.
Gotcha
Ah, so it might just be decor.
two gen 2s scavenging eachother's vehicles to repair their own wondering why things keep disappearing
I don't want it to be but I'm not foolish enough to make promises on them.
Smart
Embed failure..
So if we cant ride our Quads on top of the tracks...
We can do gen 1 racing to see who kills more humans in x amount of time.

Who sacrifices more
The isle speedrunning 
If these things release, the first week is going to be complete and utter chaos
Why are all my gifs such low quality 
If we can do wheelies, neuro will be an extraordinarily happy man
One can only hope to see a monorail wreck like this ingame 
Derailed monorail could be a fun location for jumping dinos
Hint on the next lore video? 
However the next lore video is all the way in october(Likely on Halloween as per usual)
A single letter of lore please
Alright, lets discuss why Tartarus was in dibble video 
For my own sanity I just want to think that its a funny little easter egg.
WHY IS THIS LOW QUALITY TOO

Lol
Why is there no Davy Jones āmy soul was forfeit long agoā gif 
I need to make one
Ight, Ima go back to finishing JJK. If Don starts whispering about lore or a fence talk happens. Ping me 
Lol, ight
if we can do wheelies, I will be an extraordinarily happy man
that's how the dirtbike does a pounce
Iām just saying, let me drive the big rig, and Iāll do you guys right https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1246210988345393273/1252733126162255872/image.png?ex=66886223&is=668710a3&hm=8e8fbc3d05d9a70034a41a3fbe5ef25b0c50b32ebbd2050192df6eca34b5d5d2&
I wanna drive it
vroooom
No
(please have raytraced sound if something like this, being able to drive, is put in properly)
looking at the older roughs of the truck
I do say it's a good conceptual idea that Tap has brought forth from the "quick sketch" into the proper concept phase
you can see, in all four vehicles shown, a real nice understanding of theme
that works well with how Tap described it
Brutalist and practical
which definitely accentuates, on the side profile, the brutal / made from the factory, quick and ready
as if you just added some metal plating around the chasis
no spectacles
just what's necessary
hard to tell
but i wonder if the rig is a 10 wheeler
Depends on the trailer type I think
hard to really tell
typically the inner wheel would come in
so you'd see it
basically almost all big trucks/rigs are 10 wheelers
if anything
this seems to be on the smaller side for a truck
in terms of
no 12 wheeler
but
that's good though
Thatās what Iām thinking, itās not very large, however, can I remove the hitch and just make a gunnery platform
because a 12 wheeler is a lot more front heavy
which basically makes doing any sort of "offroad" basically impossible
A small trailer to haul a generator in the UTV or the ATV could be cool
would be interesting
Provided of course, the vehicles are usable š¤
i'd assume less so for the ATV
don't really need anything special for such
higher chance than the monorails, at least
I will drive the monorail offroad 
NOOO
to be fair though
monorails are basically confirmed not happening
but from the don statement recently
does he mean to infer that there is a potential for no monorail tracks as well?
I think itās just degraded and broken monorail tracks
to note though
usually a 6 wheeler truck is just a 4x4
with the rear containing an extra wheel on the axel
i guess we already knew this already
not that sad, I suppose
basically akin to this
I was concerned for a moment before I realized most non-american vehicles donāt have the steering wheel on the left lol
lol
So
How about that forklift
Craig the forklift operator, martyr of gateway survivors
We need to see his weapon of choice, Excalabert
also a bit confused on the dirtbike
the fender doesn't make much sense
and I hope Tap fixes that
Yeah, I think itās just āroughā part of the concept, Iām not too worried about it
Other than that, phenomenal work though
as you'd typically have the fender basically connected on the chasis
due to just
bike suspension on dirtbikes
wheel moves a lot
so you're adding a bit more weight
makes mud a pain
and a bit unnecessary (you'd only need a lower render for highway speed n stability, basically)

basically leading to this
will be interesting to see the final product though
Hope Don / Tap can see this and adjust for Visual/whomever is making the models
if necessary
to be fair
it doesn't add gameplay
just more "realism" - just depends if "X" really cares or not. Because it really doesn't do anything
if we get vehicles working
and a snow biome/map
I 100% believe someone will
Halftrack doesnāt need snow 
I want to see monorail resupply points
Underground warehouse?
Just a staging area to immediately move to trucks?
I want answers 
Whatās that from? Iām curious
Amadeus
Interesting
Wonder if the tartarus reference in dibble video was about one of the other animals in the video, rather than the dibblets themselves
hmmm
There was a Tartarus reference? When was it?
2 frames
basically this
but super corrupted
only text we know that was on there was 'TARTARUS'
Ahh ok thanks!
aye
tar tar
Ah wow
Yippee
When did these 2 frames appear?
Around the dilo call timestamp, troodon call timestamp, or just with the dibbles.
for a few seconds
Not with the troodon calls?
Mmm
mmmm
Mmmmmmmmmmm
Just checked the video, it happens when the dibbles start sparring and its before this frame.
Not sure if its in the correct order though, it might be shuffled around, probably is.
Also at 2:54, is that a troodon running by?
Something with glowing eyes, fast, and the dibble was looking at it.
Someone in Petits pointed out a good question.
How did AE handle the mutations the dinosaurs were developing? (Saltwater mutations for example)
Did these mutations happen before or after the incidents, or were they one of the incidents that caused Gateway to be abondoned.
I think the mutations were intentional, and potentially encouraged in some situations, given the Augustus video and AEās knowledge of nesting
If the dinosaurs were allowed to roam freely, as some have theorized, then semi-aquatics that develop the saltwater mutation might be problematic for containing the dinosaurs on the island.
Well thatād be the same problem as the Quetz flying off
Quetz was probably contained in a Dome tho
Depends on how far this island is from another piece of land.
Why leave where thereās food? Especially if the next place with food could be very far
Why did the Pteras on Sorna leave? Natural instincts of migrating!
I think, I dont remember the exact reasoning. 
I dunno i hardly remember that series now
Time to google rq brb
Found it #isle-lore-theories message
That just leads to the theory of Earth literally being a wasteland. 
Yeah its because of migration stuff, instincts of birds.
If no food, go to food
We might just not get an answer
Yeah, i see yer point there
Counter argument. These arenāt true dinosaurs, who knows which instincts they still carry and which they donāt due to their circumstances
When asked about the force field around the island, weren't we told there are other reasons the animals don't leave the island?
True
Maybe the island is the only place with enough life for food for dinos large enough to leave, since the replicator could be giving it a boost
and my theory was that EIP's require a radio connection to work
Alright, so if Quetz and Pteras werent kept in Domes. Then how did AE deal with a wandering quetz just landing on a human base and start pecking humans 
I donāt think they were kept in domes
domestic 
by keeping the majority of human buildings underground, and using motion tracking cameras to watch anything that comes near a resupply point
Shush
That would cause a lot of issues tho
So would having a bunch of multi ton therapods on an island
tbh keeping quetz in a dome isn't very feasible - current theories around real azdharchids suggest they probably crossed entire continents
Im still not 100% comfortable with the idea of dinosaurs roaming the island freely.
Itād be like keeping a great white in a tank
Canāt move as much as it needs.
Dead.
I think the hyper fences kept everything mostly in the center, with human facilities mostly on the coast
Thats what I think too
idk maybe this is part of why robo quetz was a thing? better control their movements
With the exception of Riverdelta and Swamp to be the only coast biomes that the dinosaurs can access
But dibble was inserted on the coasy
Swamp coast.
I wonder if humans had some fancy thing to keep dinosaurs off
Can i have a dog whistle for dinosaurs?
Owen Grady of the Isle
Tracking chips + sound traps could work
Owen Grady was working for AE and just tussled a rex when the rex leaves its designated area.
Yeah, keep an eye on where they are and if some dinosaur is starting to near the base they drive it off
Lore!!
they have tracking chips
at least some of them
These things mightve monitored Dinosaurs from swimming off actually, perhaps...
I think thatās more for weather tbh
Emits some sort of frequency that Dinosaurs react to, Idk.
Could be a nice function for both
Anyways, why is there a random Radio Tower in east plains..
No
I don't recognize that
huh...
where in east plains?
Path from the coast
-62,523.931, 551,693.787, 30,342.751
I first found it on HT, and then switched branches to check if its new.
Check on the old gateway concept, maybe something is supposed to be here.
A dock.
Ignore the circles
Coincidence?
The radio tower only loads in when you are close to it, explains why people never saw it before.
those circles are not the same spot as that radio tower
that radio tower spot is further south
like that southeast dock
lol
I just scrolled up and copied the first image I saw of the gateway concept
yes, this spot is further south than your red circles. the coastal red circle is where the new freshwater pond is at
#isle-lore-theories message !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm on mobile, I have no idea what you are linking to
It should work on Mobile
He said to ignore the circles
Mobile is weird
except they are on my same screen, so nothing moves
.
don't do that isaac thing, where you link to something 3 sentences above, it's just more confusing
.
oh
Imagine we found this during the lore hunt lol
I didnāt know that was there
I did.
.
I freaked out thinking it was it.
Sadge
And then Duck ruined it by saying its not new 
It filled in the "Obvious" Category though
Yeah
But I think Don meant that its going to be Obvious if its new or not. Not that you can see it from 500 meters away
Can't wait to scoot around on a motorbike through the map xd
They might be just for decor
Weāll see
What if
Cattle prod
I think itās a solid nonlethal option
electrocute the player through their mouse
@lethal moat do you know the name of that organising service dondi mentioned not too long ago?
CARRIER?
huh?
i dont think so, it was brought up since somebody shared an image of the old organise lore iceberg thing
huh hmmmmm
the one that had all the squiggly lines and stuff
and interconnected with everything
my explanation is terrible, sorry
Im not sure.....was it in this chat?
yes, I forget the name
Don barely talked in here recently tho
it wasn't recent recent
Golem-Ceti?
more within a two month span
No, it included all of AE's branches and stuff
interconnecting and yada yada
OBSIDIAN?
YES
YES
THANK YOU
yikes that was painful
Obsidian
We got it already 
thanks nevertheless rumple
Yeah, Iāve got a basic layout sort of thing saved on my pc using obsidian, itās pretty handy once you understand how to use it (I know very little lol)
Use it lot a lot for uni
Really handy
I like connecting to my notes on Isle lore
I donāt use it much because I like my life to be an unorganized mess
But itās great for making visuals
Obsidian is what we said weād use to make the interactable lore doc with sources right?
no
I would prefer a website, but thats just my own opinion.
fandom!!
Your website or the evrima beginners thingy website?
Lore Fandom!!
no
Squish
Itād dissolve like sand
A new website?
yippeee
yay
Just using wix or something to make it?
fandom
yes
You were supposed to answer with fandom
fandom
no
fandom
oh..
why do i keep replying to messages that are from hours ago :<
Few hours behind..
yes
Thatās a weird way of playing baseball 
thas a weid way of spelling rounders
so abt that tidbit with omnis being drawn to human bases.... I get it
It was specifically docks but yes
oh, jp novel style? take a small pleasure cruise to the mainland perhaps?
Wrecked ship would still be pretty cool
I want that so bad omg you cant even imagine
Hmmm
food for thought
seeing as we seem to be a huge downtime for lore atm
not all the dinos seem to be EIPs
natural born off-spring are likely not EIPs
^ especially when they're born
there could be some sort of "post-birth" consciousness given? potentially?
Albeit, we have nothing of the sort like that yet
at least, nothing to support such
if anything
that may only happen to replicated creatures
because, such replicated creature would be a clean piece of meat, bones and blood. Technically
I think so
potential thought
all replicated creatures need an EIP?
I think the named dinos are EIPs but not the others
I donāt think all of them
for me, I don't think all named creatures need to be EIPs
just that all named are (at least) EIPs
it'd be an interesting aspect for AE if they'd actually need to create consciousness (through an EIP) for a replicated animal to actually "exist"
it solves/interacts with one problem with literally "creating life"
how do you create it
without life
I think something like that could happen, but something like human level intelligence might be reserved for named creatures
^ if anything
I think it 100% depends on the tags given to the creatures
Just the special ones
looking at the contrast between AUGUSTUS' actual namecode vs the dibbles'
I mean
that's just EIPs anyways (human level intelligence)
I think EIPs are also rather unknown to us at the moment, so we donāt know much, or rather, we are assuming much
well
we know they're still embryo intelligence profiles (EIP)
would mean they have intelligence
sure, to note, every living creature has intelligence
but then it should just be "EP"
being that it'd still be human to refer to something akin to the level of human intelligence/understanding and cognition/brainly function as "intelligence"
Could there be different levels of EIPs?
i doubt such
at least
that just depending on whomever is the profile
who becomes a profile?
what is a profile? - what is a profile for someone?
do you need to be actually transferred?
makes me curious with the contrast between AUGUSTUS and the Dibbles' "name tags"
but yeah
gotta wait
And SHIRLEY
well
Shirley is basically in the same boat as AUGUSTUS it seems
Right
i imagine the HRS stands for something like "H-something Replicant Series"
Herrerasaurus...
i cant think of what the H stands for because im currently this close to fistfighting with the sleep devil
definitely possible
Breaking this apart:
HRS.12 = Herrerasaurus version 12?
S.174 = We know Augustus is individual #174, but I wonder about that S...
Subject?
don gave us a meaning
Probably Subject, makes sense
Which would then imply... test subject?
Asset seems more general - "A thing we own"
Subject is specific to a study
From an old Dondi stream, however, no clips exist anymore, he refers to one as a location and one as the dinosaur/creatureās lineage
^ in reference to what each section means in the AUGUSTUS ID
Reading it differently, 12-S is the location then?
174 is likely his identification number
HRS meaning Herrera
12-S could be location
but we still need to identity which is lineage and which is location
Well it doesn't match up with our map as 12-S is in the ocean
Is it another f6 situation
wait, better to use the actual dondi summoning gif
to an extent
that's presuming 12-S is one strand
and not 12 being a lineage tag and S being location
S could be in reference to Britain as a sector
knowing J Sector and I Sector are in use too for their respective areas
locational tag less so being a GPS thing - which wouldn't make sense to be a GPS thing anyways
Iām going eeby and thinking on this later today
more so being where he was made, seeing as AUGUSTUS is practically an EIP
Have a good one yall
gn
I wonder why SHIRLEY's full ID was redacted, but not AUGUSTUS
don being edgy!!
i do want to know if it's supposed to be 'in-lore'
is it due to USER's clearance level?

yeah lol
i suppose, community-wise, he didn't know what the lineage/location aspect would be
or didn't want us to know yet
not like it has much important (unless it does in the future)
It does seem like a good idea to not reveal too much simply because you don't have it hammered out, and saying something kinda makes it canon
aye
i do wonder if it's supposed to be "lore-affected" those videos
how much is lore lore and the rest just "ARG-esque" lore meant for us, the community
why would you redact these things?
even things within the actual boot up of the PC
makes more sense to hide media from someone who might not reach full clearance
but PC information? Am curious
but, yeah, it quite truly just be 100% only because of this
rather than being a mix of 50/50 community and in-lore reason
probably some mix of everything
like
the presentation : not truly accurate lore
but
the data : 100% accurate lore (for the time)
is what I'm curious about
I think I talked about this earlier this year
it's something I believe Don wouldn't answer anyways, if I asked him here, though lol
He'd likely give a half-answer that doesn't reveal anything specific but maybe has a little hint
TBH it's probably fun for him, and it's kinda fun for us too
lol
Omg it's The Isle Lore Guy
omgomg wow!!!
oh
An EIP that was begging for help 
Yes I know this
But that Ĕif doesn't say much
For what worded aspects can be
I was trying to spark a conversation 
Wdym
ablais espaƱol
Need hard confirmation
oh
Could mean he likes the theory, not that it's true
Dondi likes being cryptic

Named dinosaurs as (human) EIPs for AE to better understand and the others as animal replications?
my initial take was that they named AUGUSTUS when they found it
Maybe
It makes sense to me - all individuals have numerical designations until they become notable enough to provoke further study, at which point they give it a name because they'll need to talk about it all the time
Iām thinking that the human EIPs could be to prove any major changes and mutations, like what happened with Augustus, going HEY GUYS, CHECK THIS OUT
if that is true I hope theres gonna be some incident report abt shirley
I thought it was obvious that they named it after the incident happened
Hey guys I noticed in the living roadmap that itās says 1994-1999 whatās your thoughts
Iām not sure if you guys knew or not so I thought Iād put it here just in case
thats the timeframe of the license for AE's proprietary software it gives us a clue that AE did still operate at that time idk if it gives us any more info tho
Yeah, thatās the timeframe we know AE was using and updating their software, which suggest they either swapped to a new software in 99 or they havenāt touched it since then
1999
Thatās cool
@hexed forge Highlands had a fence in #isle-phase-three message?
Never made it to release, but yes. Looks like it did
would this match any of your conjectured fences?
It was fencing off the west rail access and west access area
Nah.
Old gateway is weird
If im looking at it correctly, the fence is on top of a mountain..?
Maybe when floods are added the dams break
the dam did get lowered a little bit in the ht before dibble so who knows
tho I think I heard sth abt floods breaking the map so idk if thats a realistic thing to happen
High tides and low tides can still work tho
maybe, I would like a few more water sources and rivers anyway and theres plenty of spots on the map that have runoff channels that seem to have been created through glacial melting
Man I gotta get off my butt and start working on that "geography of gateway video"
I gotta get off my ass and work on my second video project too lmao
well it's my first so I gotta make a yt channel and buy a mic as well and I gotta do research
rn would honestly be the perfect time to do it, I just signed up for Uni but still got a few months until classes start
I recommend DaVinci for video editing.
Isaac and a few more in the lore community use it
I do already have that on my pc
Nice
I honestly have more time at uni than I do at my normal house for making stuff, which is why the podcast has been pretty sporadic recently
cause my roommate needed it for a uni project and his pc is trash
I use the microsoft video editor thingy
I feel bad if it's the one I'm thinking of
Itās not bad, my college gave me the upgraded version for free
Clip champ is great for general video editing purposes
Clip Champ
I despise hearing my own voice, so I just convert a recording to a mp3 file and do podcast, because editing one episode was very unfun for me, so the rest just stat in spotify
I think it would be funny if for giant crabs, instead if stealth dropping it, in patch notes, they say āslightly increased crab size, nutrient, and hunger valuesā
Perfect
Valid, but as a listener to the podcast I think your voice and presentation is great for the listeners
Thanks
Yeah dude, you make good stuff, donāt worry about it.

Thank god for the lore server lol, I canāt talk to myself for 20 minutes straight, nor can I think of all the things they come up with
So true, I tried streaming back when Stress Test was a thing and whenever embargo lifted, I just booted up my live. It is NOT easy to just yap at yourself for minutes on end and be entertaining.
I think the vods are still on my YouTube channel⦠not a fan of listening to them back though lmfao
Yeah, small groups makes most things easier
I use a program called KdenLive
not sure if it's better or worse, but another option
Akin to the actual Augustus
First of the empire
First, in this case, of the climbers
I love that the naming convention is like, Apollo, Hades, Poseidon, Olympus, Augustus and then SHIRLEY
Hey Iām new to the lore, is there a google drive or something that has everything we know in lore just so it doesnāt have to be explained in chat to me
I'd recommend both Lightclaws video on YouTube and the doc in the pins
Ok, thanks
Lightclaw makes good stuff
he does indeed
Is Apollo Engineering still active even after the āincidentā
we dont know quite for sure, but I'd assume so since theyre a huge conglomerate
Iād say probably on the outside world/other islands, but āthe incidentā is multiple things
No I'm Bob Sherman
of course boss
Where do the playable humans fit in? Are they mercenaries or are they people unfortunate enough to sail or crash on the Island. If they are mercenaries then why are they there?
Neither
Gen2s, like the dinos, are a creation of AE
Potentially to play God and to create the perfect human
Currently unknown, bit likely not military I would say
Maybe AE is preparing for something and need genetically superior humans
I wouldnāt say preparing for anything world ending because that is an extreme stretch
They were working on climate change stuff at one point
This is also a thing #isle-lore-theories message
I like the climate change theory a lot now
Especially since the giant crabs originated from a project to slow/reduce climate change
I originally came with a theory when I found out about gen 2s. Maybe AE is using strains and mutations to make the perfect organism to go along with the āperfectā human since mutations seem pretty useful for climate change. Maybe the strains were a stepping stone towards the gen 2s
What if what was off about this theory is that itās another world that AE is terraforming to fit future human needs and Nih was close about the aliens all along lol
Perfect organism
Matriarch (in my opinion but also legacy stuff)
we know they made giant crabs by accidentally leaking "large underwater plant" aspects
there is a potential theory such "giant crab" aspect, by accident, lead to the purposeful creation of the Hyperendocrin strain
You seem fun, you want an invite to the lore server?
Yes please
Proto-strain theory 
Iāll DM you
Ok
yay
Another victim of sacrifice soul contributor to the cause!
yay!!!
I love it when people get interested in the nitty gritty though, those people have fun theories
Especially if I can get Caesar interested in the best creature in all of lore
Ahhh the matriarch
shes sees her
āProject Prometheusā seems fitting for the Gen 2 theories
that and/or Gen1s
Yeah
I agree
Maybe when climate change enters an extreme and humans are near extinction that is when the Gen 2s and Dinosaurs play their major role
Maybe is good enough for me
Good, because thereās a lot of maybes lol
Since AE is a smaller company controlled by Apollo, maybe Apollo has some sort of firm grip on some of the world like public views, medicine, and other products and assets. This is also probably why no one questions what they do since well⦠Apollo is responsible for medicine and other beneficial things to humanity. Climate change is probably some sort of a good news to them and is a foundation for AE to create Gen 1 and 2s and Dinosaurs since the dinosaurs are apparently āFortunateā and āNecessaryā
Mhm, I imagine medicine can be directly tied to Apollo Pharmaceuticals North, another known AE subsidary
well
we do know AE, itself, has global research
and Apollo owns several subsidiaries
so it's quite likely Apollo is quite global
hence why it likely can't choose who to work with
The public probably views them as something beneficial and necessary, something they CANāT lose. This is probably why Apollo has its god complex because in their eyes they rule the world and control every major business.
Seeing as they work on global environmental issues
who knows how authentic it is though
not that they're "pretending"
but how heavy are they going in to that?
if you fix all the problems in the world
what's left for the world besides a sterile and fixed life?
Weāre saving the earth, but also, what if troodon?
TRUE
don
A ānewā world, and world to be made pure. The perfect world.
what is a utopian society, without dystopia
Maybe Apollo starts climate change so the world looks to them for help. The mortals begging the gods.
likely part with The Replicator
Including the extreme ai lol
u *
That's a u
You
Me?
yes
Why me
A utopia is impossible because humans arenāt incentivized to not take otherās stuff
hence if it were to exist, it'd basically always be a dystopia for basically everyone
practically every young adult book from the 2010s lol
but's true
human nature is disasterous
maybe Gen2s contain a lack of human nature?
So do gen 1 
build a society without the human part
to be fair though, that might be due to their monstrous attributes
Ultron!
basically
but that's without humans in general
more so in terms of removing the human natures of Gen2s
Hmm
Whoās the monster, Frankenstein or his creation?
Gen2s are "perfect"
because they're basically only human in flesh without the poison of the human condition
What if apollo is behind the climate change so the public will look to them for help, the mortals begging their gods for help
I don't doubt Apollo is doing such for PR
But with EIPs, that could ruin the gen 2
BOTH
depends if they have an EIP
or if the 1000 lives, the "cleaned state" of the previously human mind, is taken inside of a Gen2
their reward
what happens to the mind?
how would they react?
how human would they be anymore?
that all depends though on how Gen2s exist in the mind
Cleanse your humanity be becoming lizard
also makes me curious upon what we were talking last night
about IF a replicated creature needs a Profile to exist
a mind for the body
without the mind
the body cannot do
basically lol
"You want to protect the world but you don't want it to change. How is humanity saved if its not allowed to... Evolve?" - Ultron
Ultron is a great villain
I was joking 
Correct.
Apollo wants to help humanity... by restarting, giving fire to the new man.
A world remade, a pure world. Nothing out competes the other... balance
Good old rogue ai, even though ultron and the replicator are doing what they were told to do
I think
The Replicator could have been told something without it being specified
maybe Olympus could be a safe haven for the humans who survive climate change and could watch over the new world, like the gods they want to be.
or maybe it just has normal AE employees, who knows
Iām skeptical about that too
What if itās less about the physical thing being sacrificed and more about the action itself
hmm
Weāve got mutations for dinos from doing specific actions, why not gen 1? 
True
I'm guessing it being the housing of the CEO and other high staff
aka. Safe haven for the rich
Home of the gods
basically made (and painted) themselves as gods
maybe the ceo's nickname is zeus lol
I'd say that would be a bit on the nose
true
probably have someone/CEO named after a title/epithets
probably
Pantheon to singular ruler or vice versa is interesting
yeah
Craig the forklift operator vs 2 allosaurus, who win?
Forklift operator if he corners the allos
Stabby stab
The single greatest non-canon hero the isle has ever conjured
How tough are the Hyperendocrin Dinosaurs' armor or skins? How far could their resistance reach?
Yo, It's The Isle Lore Guy
does someone have a link for the gateway map + sectors?
Probably really tough, enough to resist small caliber bullets atleast.
is there a link I'm trying to use it in steam overlay for a jwe2 build
Mutation hunting kinda dead?
hmmmm wdym
Anything on hordetest being released yet it's been a bit since any news or updates?
Still holding out for pattern recognition 
I've tried to unlock most of them in some way or another
I don't feel like that one is in the game. I stopped looking for it. Devs probably removed some since the leak list is pretty old now.
People have stopped looking for them.
I bet we find one randomly after hordetest is done
Oh yeah, people will just find them randomly from now on I think
I still think its in the game...just very specific way to get it..
Perhaps it has something to do with Docktahs or troodon?
Iām going to wait for more human stuff before looking again
They have slowly been adding some. That's for sure. NV mutation was not in on HT release.
What writings exist in the current state? I don't think there are any. This reminds me of the Spiro cave writings. I bet in the future we will be able to read those or access a computer with some writings.
been trying to get the fracture mutation by walking till my broken leg healed, didnt work
In game, we currently know of none, with the exception of the mechanicās whiteboard
Haha I tried.....
Walks with leg fracture for 20 mins.
Walks with leg and body for 20 mins.
Walks with leg body and head for 20mins
and nothing......
Risky click. Lol Don't click that.
Is this lore?
<@&933486433342222376>
What do you want! Lore? I can give you lore!
oh they removed it already hahah,
thanks.
Yay they died
I SWEAR TO THE GOOD LORD
Also Ty
Wow theyāre rather common today, hrm.
WHY DID I SAY ANYTHING
IT CAME BACK
allright. yall too. take some bot blasters. 


Sounds like "Cache Propensity" is in the game, but few people have even gotten it
oh wow I didn't notice the biting remark at the bottom 
No wonder I so rarely go to the shadowy place... 
Everything the light touches will be yours somedayā¦
Whatās that dark shadowy place over-
NO.
No
I've heard people getting it but no screenshots..... š¦
LORE GUY
Can anyone think of where in the world gateway is located according to its flora?
@patent ginkgo Is the plant lore guy, unfortunately, we know some (likely many) of the plants are genetically modified, so it very well could be anywhere tropical and they just inserted a bunch of edited plants to make their own Frankenstein ecosystem
I see, thank you
Hi...
In fact a lot of the diet plants are from temperate climates, and normally would not survive a tropical environment
We have confirmation unfortunately that the static map plants donāt really have much lore significance beyond ātropical placeā
thank you, then it is a generalist jungle. i noticed that several plants recycle the same leaves i guess some are not real plants.
Get me a guy dedicated to making plants and that can change.
But otherwise you get, "It is game," reasons.
That'd be cool
I am not against the plants in the game
Seeing as Evrima isn't 20+ GB any more
So if we could, it wouldn't be that bad
Why not
Should I ping Jolly?
Just sign the contract
Why
Plant talk, Idk.
What plant
@patent ginkgo
Plants!!
what is done is done
Jolly should learn to model
Yes
Your plants
Oh
Guh Im multi-tasking rn
You ARE plants.
It was 15gb š¤
Multi-planting
It went up to around 21gb
6.5 or are you thinking of another version?
A version
I approve of this mindset
Jolly learn how to 3d model
Make plants 
Yes
^
Iām sure I could put together at least a simple list of plants to have lore significance
We shall see
None
Make strain plants specifically-
However still not sure if they are canon to the lore or not.
Strain plants!
If they are canon that is.
They're not yet iirc
Just Death Valley
Nothing stopping herbi strains
But Don really hyped up plant strains in 2018
Hope to see a come back
Tornado in the isle whenā¦
^
Never
This is still lore chat.
Thought I clicked the other one.
Someday you will learn that itās all lore chat
Same
Yes
Always have been
cannot escape
Lore is all
Why
Correct
Strain = Cool
Plant Lore = Cool
Strain plant = Cool
Matriarch plant 
I didn't expect it to end like this xD
How would that work..
Welcome
Eats creature
Becomes a bit more like that creature
One it reaches a threshold
It can start to move
Oh yeah, I guess that could work
I think it would be great if the first tisso art we get is a plant
you go to eat some plants and the plant ends up eating you
To be fair
I'd like to see plant strain being different to an extent
Same with herbs, if ever
More armor, more aggresive, perhaps more stamina, able to eat meat.
I really wish there was a way to know if Apex like T-Rex or the Hyperendocrins themselves would be able to destroy the buildings from the island
Rex will be able to damage/destroy fences at human bases(Resupply points)
I believe there is a clip of that on youtube, from the Don stream.
Someone shared this neat little bug before reporting it, and weāve seen rex destroying the fences around bases on streams before https://youtu.be/8F3ebUtOSH4?si=tqxWiXp2MnkI9_rs
QA?
How the hell did a bug of an unreleased dino make it into the HT branch
Well wait a second that isnt the HT branch š¤
I saw in the test video that the T-Rex destroys a fence with two little hits
Lol
Looks interesting
Im very confused... QA branch or not.. cant be HT š¤
I think the fence is a little small or thin, I wanted to powerscaling of The Isle and place them above Jurassic World š
Cerato thatās a Cerato
Looks like HT base lights
How does he have admin perms on HT!!
Cerato wuh??
JW Dinosaurs have Small Building level feats, I wanted to put The Isle in at least Building level or Large Building, but I have little evidence to support this
This is only visible for people that have admin perms
No idea :)
Has to be the evrima main branch if thats not a QA person
Ask @golden hemlock
Does anyone have any evidence? Something about the lore that might help with this 
I would say small
Its on normal branch, i just tried
DAMN
God I wish I had that bug happen to me
Do it then
Oh itās still in?
Damn, guess Iām stopping my current inquisition playthrough
Gotcha
Lore people flock to something mildly interesting every time it pops up lol
I am curious why those fences are different though, and how the heck they managed to find that one
lets hope no more shadows
Im trying and its only that fence the other ones on the sides doesnt work
Mhm
When I get home in three weeks!!
(engineer joke)
im genuinely thinking of learning how to model some things to make plant assets
Oh yeah, youāre on vacation lol
Yes
I would at least like what type of steel the humans use in fences or how tall they are, that would help me make a calculation that I asked my friend to do later
Modelling is fun but weird
It seems to go, hard, easy, hard, then easy after a long while of practice.
(And loop!)
hooray...
although, i wouldnt likely be modeling many proper 3d stuff
cause, foliage

Go for it Jolly, could be fun
mhm
Weird bug that no one can find an explanation to
Modelling can be very fun, the hard parts are usually learning something new.
Start off, get confused with everything that exists, realise you donāt need most of it initially, learn the basics and then itās learning new more niche things that become difficult
Ima test the fence bug with a herrera to see if its for all species
Climb it then break it, see what happens.
Works for all dinos
Beautiful.
pachy cant, stego can. Its the two that i tried
I think its for damage on the fence
I just did it with pachy
ye?, how?
I bit the fence
maybe I hit the wrong fence
Every bite from any dino at any growth can destroy it, weird bug.
Just a very weak fence
Ah yes
Quetz cant break it!
WUH
can somebody tell me where i can look into the isle lore???
The Isle Theory Document Created by: The Isaac? and Rumplestiltskin Maintained by: Rumplestiltskin (PSA: Hyperendocrin is shortened as āHyperā, though āHypoā is often used) You can comment on anything that needs to be added, changed, or removed. Apollo Engineering: - A subsidiary of the larger...
This has basically everything you need to know, 90% of it.
@lethal moat
Lore people
You know the drill, also, donāt forget to credit Isaac
@acoustic osprey Helped write it too
I was looking back at some rex clips from a dev stream and came across the Ben conversation.
Ben will just get shoved into a tank 
that's where he belongs
noooo ben deserves to roam
He�
HE?
Ben is a male, 99% sure, yes.
@signal pivot
Lets say hypothetically, Neuro does have a weakness and that weakness is that it needs to stay wet or it shrivels and dies
Would increased temperature as a result of climate change both make that issue worse?
I mean..
Would that depend on where in the world it is?
I say this without fully comprehending what youāre saying, but does the area cause more rain, more humidity, less humidity, less rain? Etc etc.
Temperature is never alone
not anymore thereās a blanket
What if Neuroās short circuit tracking implants?
Female
With the talkings of a bootup
I wonder if the pfp of islecord will be updated too
Thanks
š
sorry
I doubt
What did I miss?
?
The new UI
Ah, ight
Wot new UI
UI rework eventually planned
I see, I see
Yes
I can imagine it all being for evrima being moved to main
Well how would it change tho
Likely because it's years old and likely won't reflect the new ui
And also I imagine steam Page being updated
Why not the discord as well
Spinning AE hologram could be neat
Yes but, how would it change!
How would the pfp change, will it be a completely new skull? A background color change, etc?
That would be nice
The contents of it could change
Especially the caduceus
The idea rump gave is also pretty good
I see

