#isle-lore-theories
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I think it’s intentional, are there still debug stuff on the domes anymore?
ooooh see through domes would be coooool 
you can!
You can actually see flashes of thunder through them
and a little bit of terrain - it's like they are tinted
Any other changes we’ve seen?
New pond
I would like to see all the listed mutations
Most dinos have all the same mutations with a few being unique
Here is 10 of em
For dibble
I think this is just at the first tier
It is
Tier 2 I had only 3 mutations available, and they were different
I think 15 mutations iirc on first tier
Second tier is 3
And third tier is 3 too, but I heard some are very op on tier 3
Tier 4
does not exist
looking into a dome
looks like a reflection in the screenshot, but it's definitely not
Yet
Elder growth stage 
And then we will get elder mutations.. the ones you earn after you die
Perimeter does not seem to be transparent...
And then we get nesting mutations- We are still very early in mutations woah
Maybe it’s not finished yet?
probably
Nah, I dont think perimeter is meant to be transparent.
even up close it looks like windows, but I can't say for sure
They use different materials for the "glass?"
Or atleast it looks like it.
I’d like Perimeter to be more reinforced, steel triangles filled with glass
^
For now
looks like a glass game object without the transparency applied
And if you are growing plants in there, you want sunlight coming in because it's tons of free energy
Redwoods
yes
yea
indeed
ohh the added stuff to river delta
just rocks and such, and maybe fixed the big glitch in the water?
the area by the dam is much more rocky
A new pond too btw
at river delta?
fish spawning on the ocean side of the river delta dam
Yeah that happened before
I even saw one of the big fish
Yeah that happened before
I wonder if AE knew about the salt rock’s importance or if it was just a convenient coincidence
huh?
it's just like a salt lick - you know like for horses and cows? helps with indigestion
Was Gateway chosen because it has salt
Still nice to have
I suppose, but salt licks are probably cheap to manufacture
Fair
Oh nice
Starting to be see through now
yeah, it's like tinted glass
Isaac wanna see somethin? A theory.
I think it could happen, but we don’t have a ton pointing that direction at the moment
The only thing I currently have to make it possible is the fact that there are internal disputes in the company.
Robot quetz in perimeter maintenance closet when?
Femce
you can see that one human base
Trees broke
ye
I was looking, didn't see any at NE or water access. Volcano cave hasn't seemed to change either
Nein, no lore, atleast none that we can see without admin 
Coolio
Devblog tonorrow, hopefully we’ll get some good stuff
I hope
i'd say it's ok
but you're basically just running down Greek Mythos
If anything
whomever or whoever made AE might see "those" against *them *as being akin to the "Titans"
Seeing as we know
"Someone or someone was dealt a [crap] hand in life and was given power to try to fix what was [crap] about their life"
but,
I don't believe "internal" issues would be akin to titanomachy
if anything
you'd more so put it against gigantomachy
ngl I was giggling watching you try and post that
I just figured titans = dinosaurs, olympians = humans in a general sense. Giant beasts that lived in the old times, but now are locked underground (fossils), while the "olympians" reign from above
if anything, titans being dinosaurs would make more sense if it was more of an actual lost world scenario
not in terms of the movie/book
but in terms of the possibility of creatures, dinosaurs by basically fermented blood, surviving the past 65+ million years and now AE holds them all (mostly)
if anything though
Replicator might be some sort of Gaea-esque entity? At least, basically a more robotic chaos machine.
Chaos just in the fact that it does what it has to do. Sentience or not.
It seems imbalance? Here's a fix
that just goes off what little we know of her and how much we can speculate of her
where in this case
I can see the "Giants" being, basically, Gen1s to some extent
however
the relationship between Gen1s, Replicator and AE doesn't really fit all that well with the relationships of these mythological characters
I can see replicator as Gaea
Hmmm, you just gave me something new to research
mmm
either Gaea or Khaos honestly
Replicator fits well in both categories for different regards
Uranos doesn’t really fit as well as it would for a construction company maybe
If anything
I can imagine if they made the biodomes into a bit of a Truman show dome
In terms of having it's own pretty realistic skybox, but more "scifi"
I can imagine whatever machine for it being named after Ouranos
But nothing really fits besides that
Mhm
I would reckon AE would, at all costs of their ego, relate anything to Olympians and their minor gods
Plus related primordial gods that didn't really have a go at them in Titanomachy
Like Helios
But even then
Apollo takes his place
So use for Helios really
Unless you want to refer to some early pre-dating tech of AE
Prometheus
Could relate to eips honestly
Especially the human side of such
Mhm
I do wonder the extent of AEs greco-roman references
I guess it all depends on poetry and ego
Whether mythological or simply through wordings and names
Like Wheos
Whoever works on the naming conventions at AE can’t possibly have as big of an ego as I do
when the sanctuary first came out i thought the dome was the sanctuary 😭
I think a sanctuary in perimeter could work
the dome being a sanctuary would be cool tho
anyways could someone give me a summary of the lore
speaking of, someone is asking about lore ^^
We’ve got this, as well as a podcast and a lore server https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit
The Isle Theory Document Created by: The Isaac? and Rumplestiltskin Maintained by: Rumplestiltskin (PSA: Hyperendocrin is shortened as “Hyper”, though “Hypo” is often used) You can comment on anything that needs to be added, changed, or removed. Apollo Engineering: - A subsidiary of the larger...
the buildings and weirdly somber and sad music in legacy and just vibe of legacy got me in the lore
like no way these dinos are natural
Legacy isn’t canon, though some stuff moves over
They technically aren’t dinosaurs 
nahhh, they are totally natural 
yes i know arent they genetically modified animals
not actual dinosaurs

I have a theory that they are like AI-generated images. Someone asked an Ai to make a herrerasaurus, and this is what was 3D printed for them
Send me there, I want to see some things
I think that’s as close as we can guess currently
Those NDAs are wild
Thousand life contract is a fun song and a fun thing to think about
would life to see tartatus
tartarus whatever, i like the smaller less importent strains
like that mosquito bugger
sucking the blood of some allo
whats the matriarch? I read and its basically legacy tartarus?
the matriarch is rumple's favorite 
No, matriarch was made in tartarus in legacy (probably same for evrima) let me get the current quotes for it
tbf it's very cool
so its a strain holding facility in a bigger strain holding facility
oh
hm, its a living creature?
Tartarus is a place
what the hell is apollo up to this is messed up
wasnt there lore about there being some kind of god that you can sacrifice yourself to be stronger when you are reborn
Replicator is a machine
I can get the quotes on that too, brb
the gen 1 in gameplay they able to sacrifice dinos and people
to the replicator
Can i see the island walker Skeleton?
if anyone has it
Keep in mind, the eyeless are the changed gen 1 we presume
oh
Ngl this is so cool! the way the assets "evolve" like the first herrera learning to climb and stuff
We haven’t seen anything for that for Evrima
isnt titan lake v3 whatever its called it says theres a massive skeleton
Mutations are currently in testing, though we can’t say for sure how it ties into lore, it probably is something similar to that
I know, we haven’t seen anything into that on Evrima yet
Imagine mutations allow you to do things that others cant, and can only be spread by generations, like arboreal generations of omniraptors adapted to climbing and stuff
Would be sick
Man, i feel bad for the strains
poor animals are treated like monsters locked up in a literal "hell"
Hyper starves constantly, we don’t know much about the others
hyper is constantly in pain from starvation
That’s not confirmed for Evrima yet
and others are likely constantly being experimented on in gruesome experiments
ik
just nerding out rn
Mood
Unofficial tapwing art, but it’s cool
ngl i rememebr seeing hyper utah
when i was like 12 first playing legacy
and i wanted that thing so bad
Yeah, old legacy stuff
do you know what a reaper is? I have no idea what they are
Tissoplastic humanoid strain
n spino when
You want an invite to the lore server?
sure
kidnapping another?
Devblog time, brb
Hope we get to see more trail cams showing more uhm classified assets
and not just normal everyday predators like troodon and stuff
Nice, GUTS entrance stuff
yes
I want more of everything
I'm ready for the devblog breakdown lol

Awesome sauce
I really want more new named assets, maybe a experimental omniraptor, not a strain but with just tinkered DNA and odd behavior, maybe developing habit to pounce and pin prey passing down generations to current omniraptors?
WAIT
@meager junco talk about Shirley
what if omniraptor was the experimental asset that came from utah? Or utah is the new asset created from omniraptor?
Like utah being new gen omni and omni old gen?
Omniraptor is a mix of other raptors, thus the name, Utahraptor will be it’s own thing eventually
im actually going schizo mode mb
We do that sometimes
The entirety of the podcast’s third episode lol
do NOT let me in charge of this games lore 🗣️
Yeah, Dondi says some spooky things
And we have different visions of what AE is
I see them as good guys making necessary sacrifices, @hexed forge thinks otherwise
AE stands for apollo engineering?
Yes
OH, based on what you said i understand what "Thousand Life Contract" means now
no
hi
lol
Tell them how AE are actually the good guys
AE is the government that is trying to take your soul away, you need to run before they get you. Run and live in the northern part of Canada. Rumple is merely just a spy for them. Run till you cant no more /j
(joke)
I dont know much i dont think AE are the good guys, companys like them making new life and stuff like rebirthing their assets always have some devious mission
Shirley is one of them, a Rex featured in the Augustus video, seems that she’s one of the earliest rexes on the island or perhaps made by AE in general as she has .003 assigned to her name
She’s only heard not seen
And has supposedly been on dondis mind for a while
I trust AE
Are the first assets of a species, have much different characteristics then later generations? For example, different proportions, behaviors, vocal sounds, etc?
I believe AE is a good guy too, but bad ways to reach their goal.
or are they just later generations but old
AE aren’t your stereotypical evil company
Some do, some are the same, while some early versions differed
Galli for instance
For example augustus he seems exactly like nornal herreras but he only just then learned how to climb
36 generations of dibble
And a partridge in a pear tree
When you have a machine making stuff, you can pick and choose what you like
Correct, more than 100 herreras before him didn’t climb, he was special and was then selected to be the base for all future herreras
Thats actually awesome
More strain stuff would be cool
Bring me hyper Shirley 
I’m more interested in tisso to be honest, we know more about the hyper already (probably)
give me a named omniraptor 
tisso is interesting, the very concept of these creatures makes my head hurt, those scientists making these abomination must of been on something very strong
Strains will do that to a being, just ask collossus
Man. I sure do hope theres not a giant mutant mafia boss omniraptor living in docks!
Raptors resort to using human structures as shelter for a reason.
Either they got sent there by the replicator?
Or normal animal stuff where they just found interest in them.
I’m thinking something similar
Fair, I wish we at least got a concept so we can get an idea what tisso is like
Wait, let me get this straight, are the dinosaurs all escaped assets, or are they just supervised, kind of like isla nublar's dinosaurs? Wild but techinally not
I also like the classified thing in the new devblog for Rex 
We think Gateway was abandoned for as of currently unknown reasons and gen 2 are trying to recapture it
Bum bum buuuuum
I think it would just be normal animal reasons, Utah sees big, empty abandoned cave like area thats still in decent condition, utah go hide in there, generations go by and mother utahs teach their babies to use buildings as shelter
Dondi, if you’re watching, could you possibly provide some sustenance for us starving lore folk 
Either it’s got something to do with strains, or it’s got a special ability that has a sweet sound to it
MORE LORE
I hope the isle evrima becomes a "horror game", for both humans and dinos
legacy was a NIGHTMARE when i first played
I don’t doubt it will be for humans, I imagine apexes will make or break horror for normal creatures
i was like 12 that was so scary with the loud booming music with the uncommon echoing roars through the pitch black night
I’m just waiting to put on some camo and hide in a bush, with a loaded gun
Shoot me some Dino’s
Music could also use some touches
evrima could be such a scary game ngl
Fill out the roster more and you’ll have to guess what’s in the dark based off of the weight of the footsteps 
I think animals like Omni or Troodon could be scary imo
The underground could be a complete different world…
GUTS and resupply stations my beloved
Or with dilo, with how loud its footsteps are you'd assume its a carno.
THIS IS WHAT I WANT!!
We also need them Vats 
Yeah
Ben when
In 5 years if the game doesnt look like this im never playing it again
Better gore would work great too
Yes
I wouldn’t put a time limit on it, but yes
I think omni would be scarier, hyper intelligent, large enough to obliterate you in seconds, small enough to fit anywhere, hunts in packs, probably hangs around human buildings
not to mention is at least 10 times faster then you
Apparently utah will be more of a brawler, so I see omni doing hit and runs on human groups and utahs diving in and shredding
and its kitchen knife claws and that could spill your intestines everywhere in a single slash
i just have so much hope for this game man
I’m just wondering if along the line of the pin and pounce, if troodon will be able to pin a human If a few jump on it
Same, just got to weather out the wait ||by begging for more lore||
same with omni
Glad to see that we’ll be getting that with testing as well
It already can pin a human
like 4 omnis could pin a carno, if the mass of the omnis or troodons is at least a bit greater then the animal it get spinned
with them all weighing them down
I forgot that was one of the next mechanics lol, I went straight to burrow and elders/seniors
I wish devs would expand on the horror factor
Like rump said, music would help
Nice joyful music in the day is fine, but at night, it should be dark and somber
Whenever music starts playing at night I usually stop what I’m doing and check out what’s around me just to be sure
have we informed snowy about the neuros
That one track always makes me think something is around me
Do it
Not yet, letting them go at their own pace
I heard in legacy some tracks played when certain animals were near you

for example deadly secrets would play when near a apex
I think smaller predators are scarier then the big bois
I’ve been jumpscared by ceras as a galli a few times
At least they could eat you in a few bites
small guys like Troodon would eat you alive in swarms with no regard if your alive or not
Like the dilo concept art
carno you would likely die instantly from the headbutt
Alberto safe to say your dead the second those jaws clamp on you
Rex? You'd be reduced to a red paste
Yeah, but you know they’re coming before they attack (sometimes)
yes
Thats why the smaller dinos are scarier imo
you cant hear them coming but they damn sure can hear you
That dread of big things is worse for me I think
thats actually fair
The sound of something literally capable of ripping buildings apart slowly walking around while you cant do nothing but sit there praying it doesnt smell you
cant wait to get flung as utah when hyper rex takes a step
yess
its gonna be that one jp3 raptor scene 😭
Hyper Rex just wants to say hi
The goodest boy
whenever i see him i just hear minecraft skeleton sounds probably because i have like 200 hours of minecraft in the past month
I just can’t stop loving this design lol
Especially the one with the skin on it hold up
More strain and matriarch concepts 
That’s if skins aren’t a single thing like legacy strain skins were
I hope theyre the same colour as the Dino you “evolved” from
So if you had a black Rex, black hyper Rex
melanistic neuro spino...LEUCISTIC/ABLINO NEURO SPINO...
sbhghuwgWRIGIbwrgbuWBGRwbrg iWRGwbgrW'
I call him…
Rudy
albino hyper bary when
This is interesting
Especially with habitation enclosures
And connects to GUTS as well
Bulkhead is a fun word
Not surprised though
If GUTS truly connects to basically everything
Don't want animals roaming around easily
Construction stuff unfinished projects makes me think gateway definitely wasn’t purposefully abandoned
Which looks pretty brand new though
So maybe AE hasn't really fully left
At least
Maybe gen2s weren't sent? But were left there to continue
Potentially
Potentially UnderConstruction
Anyone else notice that the loading screen logo is made up of mRNA codons
Yep
death by homalo in guts
Anyone translated them?
head cracked open with homalo headbutt, 12 dead
Check this one out for older stuff like that #isle-lore-theories message
Imagine if homalo actualky could fight
It concussed a sub teno
dont think that was a sub
i would about fresh spawn
sub would dwarf the little angry man
I imagine night hunters will end up retreating to GUTS during the day
It’s massive underground tunnels, might be able to be partially closed off, but there’s a lot of open areas currently
i would imagine it as a rex nest ngl
I think it depends on how often people will use it
If people are able to map it and navigate it to easily and safely get to a precise location, they will do so
wish people played troodon more, maybe it would spice up human dinosaur interaction
specifically mercs
Troodon rework will hopefully pull through very nicely
but in reality if u have a good coordinated pack u can kill ceratos
there's a rework for it?
Mhm
what it gonna feature
Mercs don’t exist, it’s just gen 2
Think of GUTS as simply tunnels
Nothing more nothing less
Just all underground
We dunno yet, some changes to venom
oh
well thats a bit boring
A link between an "X" and "Y"
The things the tunnels connect to and the things within them are the fun parts
understandable
And potentially some bits within
Knowing guts will likely still include caves and the what not
Yis
has it been said how to be a hyper dino? Become really old?
Nothing yet confirmed
That’s probably Tartarus
We had something a while back
But who knows now
GUTS is just transportation areas
oh
Literally just the river styx
is guts a massive channel
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png?ex=665b7a01&is=665a2881&hm=3eee3ab3055fd5ec4f3ce44af0830a38b5c82dea3a15c337717308721178e74c& This is the best lore we have on GUTS for the moment
if so there should be trains or smth if gateway was once inhabited
Many massive tunnels
Potentially
by sane modern humans
Monorail is planned
We're still not really sure
But also won't be useable
We have specific mentions of GUTS at the top, it’s something
Right
Something
But barely of something
More 
not strains or anything
when he said this?
Oct 25 last year
I assume thats dilo
I don’t think so, but maybe
troodon and dilo do share some characteristics
such as nocturnal behavior, strange calls, both have venom, both hunt in packs, both are quick
Yep
I think it’s either velo or megalania, leaning towards velo
velo gene most dominant clearly
That’s my guess
i dont see how its megalania
Both have venom, and that venom assists in pursuit hunting
way of locomotion in water?
That too
hm fair
I tend to focus towards AE doctrine and gen 1 when thinking about lore
I like the company 
normal... yes... normal
Nothing weird going on here
if it even has anything to do with GUTS, could just be a computer network map for all we know
could be
but the direction aspect with 291 might be otherwise
I’m invested in 291 being a spy of some sort
Likely from an “external hostile force”
holy war!!
nothing important sending here
but
this bit
this is not the interior for that bit but above and behind it
here
which views upon the atrium of the enclosure, which is nice
but you can tell
that the fences actually move and the atrium becomes wider
as you can see within this photo near the top centre of the photo
Reminds me of that one view from the legacy stream
which
is pretty interesting
makes you wonder how big the actual enclosure is
however
it's actually worth noting
it might not actually be the enclosure getting wider
might be that the actual elevation changes
https://gyazo.com/6fd3870c717c4487be4f5b8d9f2869b5
as the floor actually warps
Looks roughly two stories tall
that's interesting
i wonder if that's just a map thing or it's meant to be like that in-game as well
i'd say maybe three
look how small the doors are in comparison to the whole building (in the actual atrium of it)
might just be the fences due to perspective
as this makes it look smaller than that photo
If you look closely at that bottom left corner, it curves down slightly, I think it’s the map changing
(talking about the size of the building, not the map/distortion)
Yeah, the map changes in elevation like you said, it dips down a bit
yeah!!!
What’s down there 
yeah
why the change!!
GUTS ELEVATOR 
also the buoy!!
And the cranes
Might just be the one
Nice to see actual perspective for that crane, it’s bigger than I realized
The biggun
check
i wonder if the thing on the bottom right is a WIP enclosure
Could be
Reusing pieces of the enclosure for GUTS bulkheads make me think they’ll be decently well defended, which makes sense
if they will be reused or not
guessing so for any enclosure-type connecting to GUTS though
It just lists entrances as what’s being reused
Maybe thats whats in the lower portion of the map
for the habitation enclosure kit
Mhm
My bad
Looks like the bulkhead is what will be reused, which is mostly an entrance but eh
Wonder what sort of barriers they’ll have
Door or anti-car barricade poles
so were any of the doorways shown on that structure actually entries to GUTS?
they mentioned it, but they all just look like normal doorways
I don’t think so
I bet it’s that de-elevated portion of the map we can’t see 
nah, don't think they showed anything
sadly
the day docks is released will make you go crazy
We must explore it exclusively as omni
i will personally hunt you
?
I still don't understand
That bit might not be a tsl esque event
Might be something more akin to the horde
I want it
Not a game feature or anything
But a story aspect
Seeing as people will very likely still do it
If there is a tsl event tying into lore, I would guess it would be there
With or without lore
Docks will be fun tho
I want to play herrera and drop on someone from the cranes 
I want a docked cargo ship, maybe partially sunk in the docked position
elaborate
was there any map changs
Marsh at NW
Time species location
Depending on these factors
You'll see lore or not
Specifically
No lore until you hit THE criteria
did anything change with the domes or the underground base
oh wait its horde testing so u cant spectate can u
Not yet
Domes have translucent glass now
wait wait wait isaac i always tell u and u never understand how low IQ i am
am i understanding it right that dondi is tryna say there is lore when u hit that specific "Time Species Location"
Event style things that activate when those criteria are fulfilled
before, they were open plains in the inside
in HT i walked by and saw forests in. ceiba forests all i can see its its top.
WAIT SO WE GOT LORE IN GAME NOW?!
I need more on this specific situation lmao
Not in yet
where?
Not sure, haven’t played it yet
Between the lake and the ocean somewhere
huh, flying around west access and I don't see anything
I think it’s the northern lake
oh THAT nw
Which is really more of a northern middle
Fair
But it is called NW I think in carno spawn?
Probably
nothing over here either 😭
I’ve seen multiple people say it exists, I might have gotten the location wrong 
maybe west rail...
My bad, sorry tiny
is okii
Probably just GUTS
I will disclose information
(This was in the 2nd gateway st)
I think
Can't remember
I believe it's likely just a GUTS entrance
I was mainly shitposting but thats actually interesting
I think Tartarus will connect to GUTS, and maybe to a facility on the surface, but I doubt a direct connection except maybe as an emergency evacuation route
We can probably find out how it connects via the ",map", on the errant thing
But then, is Olympus in gateway...?
Huh
Rumple can you remember where specifically you were on the map when you saw it? Was it the west side or east?
I haven’t played it, I only know others have seen it
Oh did they send any SS?
No
Hmm
im stuck at eu 6. can someone unstuck me. im kyzohh ingame name.
Check the pinned comments in #evrima-eu
Cause the lore theories chat is probably not the best place to ask for help lol
the place rumple was talking about, or the place that I was talking about? Because I was talking about here:
theres lore for the isle? i thought this was just dino eat dino game
How much lore do you want?
The new marsh is in NE so probably talking about that
What marsh and specifically where
I have been at NE today and didnt see anything yet, might have missed it tho
It’s right by that watchtower in NE
Let me get a pic of the map and the area it’s in
And it’s nothing major, literally just an extra drinking spot on the coasts
ahhh ok
huh, I ran by it today didnt see it. Mustve been blind lmao. Gonna check it soon
Hm.... I have suspicion that its nothing new but I will check just incase
Like I said yesterday, I was asking around if anyone else had seen it before and I just got cat telling me they added it, so irdk myself if it’s really new from the HT
I don't think there was fresh water near that watchtower
There wasnt, if that even is freshwater
I cant get in the game to check 
I'll check once I hold my herrera's head underwater...
I mean
I’m not far away from it, but I’m also starving and halfway to the MZ
And it just changed on me.
Hope you find it, at least you got the light post at the watchtower so you’ll know if you’re close
will probably just have to continue to head that way and wait for day if any time is left when I get to the area
when n spino
There it is! Like I said, nothing fancy, but useful
While we are on the subject of this area, I think this big open spot would be good for human stuff
Yeh there’s a few spots like that, where roads lead to nothing and big open spaces are where it ends
there's one out on the islands (kinda hard to see the road here)
That the southern island?
It got touched up last patch, I saw when I was in admin mode
Before HT
top part yeah
Yeh that island is definitely special, been on my radar for a while, especially since there’s tunnel entrances
two salt licks?
tunnel entrances where?
oh I see them on islemaps
Yeh there’s 4 iirc? They might not all be on islemaps tho
There’s likes 2 on the eastern side, and 2 on the western side of that island
Oh yeh I remember seeing more last time
Makes you wonder how important that island is
Closer view - little purple dots are entrances
yeah, eight underground entrances - maybe important for shipping and transportation? Maybe this appendix island will have a lot of dockyards?
big islands outside the map
I don't know the map well, please tell me where it is.
far eastern coast, just north of "east plains"
Thank you
Iirc, there was an airport in the old version of gateway that stress testers played on more than a year ago
So would make sense
I would love to play on the islands more...but no food even AI and no fresh water source.
Bet it’s new rex vocals
That’s my assumption, especially because the monorail went through there at one point
thing is though, while noting it down for loreberg script, I kinda doubt that most of these are GUTS tunnels/related entrances
however, to note though, they're genuinely quite weird and unneeded
albeit maybe it's changed in this HT?
I flew over them in HT and didn't see anything unique
all the same tunnels are still there?
I bet it’s just shot tunnels to go through the island, maybe or maybe not connected to larger GUTS tunnels
it's just weird
they're pretty pointless as tunnels
however
it's hard to assume much of that island
it's likely the least of Jaces' and Dondi's worries for worldbuilding
yeah
iirc, the Xmas ST Gateway didn't have a monorail line going over there
but
likely an earlier version did
looking at the two connection points up north and down south
oh yeah definitely
it may be returning once they feel ready to rebring the monorail line
I’m thinking like maintenance tunnels
I'm ready for that day
for what?
I'm actually pretty convinced they are monorail tunnels
The monorail
these seem like they could "sway" into eachother as monorail lines
I mean, you don't really need specific maintenance tunnels for such
I presume it's just so they can pass through the island itself
altitude and anything relating to "trains" don't go very well together
Yeah
https://gyazo.com/0572c25bebb579cd0a4c69f75ed22617
this also could "sway" together
but it's a bit of a turn
but still could make
But just a spot for engineers to get through rather than for trucking or something
it's easier to just build a temporary or perma stair system
or designate a specific tunnel to work on the monorail itself
than make it for maintenance
That’s what I’m saying
a circuit kinda like this
Could be
kinda matches this image #isle-lore-theories message
and also the entry/exit points on the island
thing is though
I'd say it'd be more random and not specifically for such
I think the monorail will be different than what we’ve already seen
Fair
even cooler!!
my only issue is that this section is a bit harsh
https://gyazo.com/04343c6947062bbe015452e5ab6b2986
not really that smooth
I see the monorail going into the mountain west of swamp.
but if the monorail specifically goes slower
it would still work
Could be a loading station nearby there
I wonder why it needs tunnels for the outer portions but not when it runs through the middle of the island, but perhaps that's a central hub or station that is elevated
that's what it does in the old image
may exist as well still
definitely has to be something there
lots of potential cement for no reason
might have an enclosure of sorts
knowing that Vis seems to allude to several enclosure types
it might have the majority of the human construction
there aren't even trees on the island
well, mostly? 
I just figured a lot of dockyards and human complexes
I dont think the term "fortified" would be the correct term
Like are we talkin weapons or smthn, idk
just this kind of stuff
Industrial is a better term
Yea
So if there is a Dock, the monorail would be mainly used as transporation from South island to the outposts/perimeter/etc
probably to interior and guts as well
If they dont have underwater tunnels which is unlikely
yea
Well probably not directly to the outposts.
We’re going to map out as much of GUTS as fast as we can when we get it lol
But some sort of storage area where then trucks deliver the materials to the outposts make sense
GUTS is probably primarily for shipping and production, outposts don't need supplied that much
An underground warehouse area, a sort of hub
Yep, and then the trucks deliver the things that dont connect to GUTs using the paths on the surface.
A distribution point
yea
don't forget
Don referred to areas such as K15 and I12 as resupply points
Currently looking at the monorail path that goes from south island. It goes into the mountain west of swamp and then north into the Perimeter or/and South dome.
Perimeter being this "Distribution point"?
There could be multiple, one in perimeter might make sense
Atleast a secton of Perimeter.
The north monorail path leading from south island also enters the east dome.
These domes could contain some of these distribution points
Ooo, I think I got the circle of the monorail path around the island
Horrible circle but- you ge the idea
In northern jungle there was also a path caused from the old monorail so there was def a monorail there.
Looks good to me, there’s just a lot that they can do with the monorail and I look forward to seeing what they choose
it will probably cut to the west a bit more to hit west rail access, but otherwise looks good
I'd say it just depends on how the GUTS tunnels are all facing now
there was a monorail section here near the north of the volcano, going over the dam, into the volcano
so it's definitely a possibility
if you want to go more in-depth
putting down which parts would connect to GUTS or not would be cool
Mhm, even then, those island tunnel locations could change as well
It’s not out of context, I’m just really bad at cropping and I’m tired lol
I’m going to drop this off as tomorrow’s topic and head to bed
I think it’s “how human are gen 1”
i think you can definitely look at it this way:
What if you knew that whoever or whatever made you and your people actually properly existed
Not in the spiritual "I can feel their presence" - not through a saint or prophet, not through the environment or the "feels", but through actual interaction.
yes
Gen1s likely, on a whole, probably don't have a very advanced cognitive function akin to "normal" humans
but it's basically like owning an animal
It knows you exist and it relies on you. So it's lifestyle and how it'll interact with the world will be, forever, changed
sure - potentially the Replicator probably doesn't spoon feed Gen1s
however
we know AE, at least, moderates and keeps up things within the island(s)
looking at how enclosures are confirmed now
it may very be that Gen1s, especially, may have some sort of larger contact with AE and (potentially) The Replicator
than a random native "tribal person" who has never interacted with the outside world
and such effect on the lifestyle and environment for Gen1s will definitely change their ways of interacting with "those from above" - like through "rough tribal/very archaic and primal" sacrifices
technically the opposite away round
include with PoT though
MMORPG without a story.
yay
Oh
thanks
you’re welcome
I’d say how human gen 1s are changes changes it from worship to symbiosis
I like to see them as worker ants
Rumple when he tries creating his gen 1 army with lorecord. (We all fail to follow his most simple instructions)
I try to give an end goal and not to micromanage, we have a goal, just don’t get in each others way while figuring it out
????????????????
Wrong chat I think, the only place I see that one being is isle discussion and it seems out of place and just someone wanting problems
Currently mapping all the GUTS enterances on the main branch, not HT.
Is it possible for a monorail to be able to turn at this angle?
But it also really depends on the speed... if its transporting containers... it might be pretty slow and then speed up when actually crossing the ocean 🤔
Hm, is it even possible for a monorail to handle a large amount of weight? I know AE has some amazing technology, but im not sure if its possible right now at the current technology in real life.
But I guess there is def a possibility of AE's monorail handling that weight.
AE’s monorail is good
I think
I think the actual tram itself is going to be surprisingly large
Does anyone have a picture of Old gateway? Specifically the monorail track in south plains?
This one?
Nonono, it was a picture ingame. From the ST
Ah
I think Isaac has it
I don’t have it, we’ll have to wait for him
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Or not- watching the video currently and some of these locations... are very different..
Aha! Found south plains... Weird how Perimeter wasnt on the first public iteration of gateway.
Former GUTS enterance.
There was a monorail going straight into the volcano.
Another former GUTS enterance.
So yes, looks like the theory of the monorail going into all the domes is.... correct?
@acoustic osprey This weird section, was indeed a monorail route.
It seems like the Monorail tracks all go through the Domes
Through/under
Fence addict and Monorail addict 
Red is the GUTS enterances, Dotted black is underground routes, Black lines are surface routes.
White is this "Distribution point"
I like that map
I like the idea of 2-3 loops that are connected
That was basically how it was on old gateway
So now that Dibble is in the hordeteste, I think we can start hypothesizing what the Rex/Shirley video will be about, I personally think it’s either one of two things
A) Shirley is the first Rex specimen, or possibly even the first asset to have strains tested on them since she’s an early specimen (.003)
B) Her video will be sort of like Augustus mixed with dibble trailer, where Shirley breaks out and starts going from one spot of the island to another and a team sent by AE is trying to recapture her and place her back in her pen as so to speak, at least the area she’s supposed to be kept in
That’s just my thoughts tho, I wanna hear others idea on what the trailer might be
I think we might see Shirley breaking into an outpost because of her fence breaking mechanic
That’s my idea for a Rex video so I hope not 
Like one we make
That reminds me.. I still have to F finish my deino lore video..
I got distracted by HT and another game
And also, maybe we might see a rex vs trike spar fight.
Like.. Shirley gets injured from the trike... And tries to seek refuge in a human outpost
Maybe it got attracted to something in the outpost.. like food?
That would kinda go in my idea B, she escapes, kills a few things before getting recaptured

Just hope it’s a good one, Seiza hasn’t disappointed so far
I’m excited
Let Shirley shine!
nuh uh, its hiding
I can imagine something like this
I bet it'd be a bit hard/harder than doing Augustus and Dibble video
but it's THE Rex lore video (presumably with Shirley?)
go big or go home
If it is breaking into an outpost, I would like to see some humans running around panicking 
Also Isaac what do you think of this?
you assume the idea of a distribution point
yet
what do you define as a distribution point
There could be multiple
and distribution point of what
you assume the existence of distribution points existing in the first place, no?
Basically, its basically the storage area of the containers and resources delivered from a port. The reason its a "distribution point" is because that could be the point of where trucks deliver those containers and resources to the surface outposts.
Port*
so you mean a resupply point
Well, yes. I guess it could be described like that too.
So then you know already which they are then
Distribution of resources and containers to surface bases
Wdym
K15 and it's friends were labelled as such
Have you watched the Vis stream?
There was a what now
See this feels almost too obvious for The Isle. I think it'll be like, [Shirley Dissection Footage] or something equally unexpected
however
with the monorail
there's no real need for distribution points
As you'd be distributing whenever you're under or within a location
the only really needed "distribution point" is above ground and not connected to the monorail system
Ah yes, but, this distribution point. Is meant to be some sort of storage area of containers and other resources that are sent throughout the island to all bases of AE. Surface, underground, etc.
Yeah thats what I said at first, to all the surfaces bases.
you're describing them as underground storage hubs
Lightclaw has a video of it
the only thing we have akin to that, right now, are locations like K15
however, nothing really to suggest there is such for the monorails
if anything
there may be storage facilities
but I wouldn't really be describing them as distribution points
but as just storage facilities/surplus storage
if needed
@acoustic osprey May you link it please?
What about K15 specifically. The underground storage hub part? Or
Could the resupply points have elevator access to underground monorail depots in GUTS?
we know some of the older STs had pre-prod-setups for GUTS entrances in them
specifically connecting to the monorail? No, not really
it'd be more likely they don't connect to the monorails
making them more mandatory as resupply points so anything on ground can have access without having to detour through GUTS to access "X" storage/aspect needed
Well the monorail delivers all the resources from the port. Obvisouly there is no monorail or GUTS enterance right under or next to one of the resupply points. So, there has to be some sort of place where the containers that are meant to be sent to the resupply points are held and shipped off via truck. That was what I meant when I referring it to as a distribution point. I see that I probably used the wrong term for it however. Thats mb
The resupply points likely wont connect to the monorail yeah
fair
wouldn't really make it necessary for distribution points though, cera
unless you just mark "X" location (let's say Perm) as a temporary location for "X" vehicle to detour to access "X" piece of storage/material
but hard/static distribution points are less than likely
especially underground ones
which then "X" location at Perm would become a temporary location for collection
no central distribution? like Amazon warehouses?
unless Perm is a glorified mail service
which it could be
but we still have resupply points
Then it may be likely that Perm could be a mass storage hub
funnelling resources through to, on the ground, to those resupply points
or through GUTS, minus the monorail
Perimeter is big however, the storage section could just be a section of it,.
I personally think Perimeter is 100% research
Perimeter can be used in many different ways, we have GUTS, multiple levels.
Perm or another big storage building
same function applies
with associated storage, personnel housing, manufacturing, etc for a massive research complex
Top level being research
Middle Storage
Bottom level (insert)
But I don't see Perimeter as any kind of hub for the distribution, transportation, or networking of Gateway
GUTS doesnt connect to the resupply points tho so likely on ground via paths.
we can't really work with the now
and we can't really work with the "back then"
we don't even know what type of entrance is just a simple tunnel and what is a GUTS entrance, yet
it could be basically the same as Vis hinted with the enclosures
we don't really know how big and how many tunnels there will be for GUTS
If we look at the placement of the GUTS tunnels and where the monorail was placed. Perimeter seemed to be the "center" of the entire network
Perm has the most entrances out of anything
it's also the biggest and most unique building on Gateway
it likely has a larger and less individual service
Meant to reply to this
See I think the amount of connections to Perimeter is only a consequence of it's importance as a research hub - a massive biodome is going to need literal tons of resource and manpower
but this is mostly just headcanon for me
Yeah so it would make sense if most of the monorail routes connected to Perimeter
I doubt there will be much of the monorails on Gateway
A lot of resources needed = possibly a large storage area of those resources
they're not necessary for gameplay
I'm only guessing a singular route on the island itself
Most of it will likely be underground
Ignore the distribution point circle for now in the image.
By singular do you mean like 1 loop? Or 1 monorail track just going from point A to B
loop would be more affective
Then I guess this could work if we remove the western route. I dont know why it was there in the first iteration of public gateway. UNLESS there is something planned there.
I think the west is where coastal changes are planned
Daviid cameo!!
maybe the isle is in the same universe as game of thonres it would explain a lot of things
it would explain a lot of things
if its in the future of game of thrones
lol
G in GUTS stands for?
I forgot
G.. underground transporting system
Generic Underground Transport System
Ty
quite so
do note
that's an unofficial official name from Dondi
meaning
there is an actual in-lore name
but it won't be explored
Yeah, just had to ensure I'll translate the devblog part correct.
I'm so hyped for the humans appearance in the game. 😩
Somewhere between now and the heat death of the universe
Promise?
Uh oh
Where specifically did it show up
Like was it close to the dibble tracking footage? Or was it next to the nutrients of oranges part.
It was a single frame glitch during the normal sections of the video
hm, weird. It could just be a funny easter egg to make us go insane.
I imagine in the "original" compiled files it was a title/intro page or something
But it wasnt at the start of the video
yes, everything was out of order and jumbled because of the file corruption
But the bit with tartarus has a big AE logo along with it
Just looks like a front page to me
I’m in the mountains and internet won’t allow it
Oo nice...
I see
Tartarus is kool


