isle-lore-theories

[valid geyser]

Nevermind that’s.
Ignore that

[hexed forge]

F5 is in the ocean here, so no.

[sterile spire]

Name's replicator
And im going to put human souls into prehistoric ancient animals

[fast forge]

I meant just north of that

[hexed forge]

Yes

[fast forge]

could easily have shifted between this early version and the current

[hexed forge]

Not F5, but it could have been moved down a bit because of the new map...

[signal pivot]

record scratch freeze frame Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got here.

[acoustic osprey]

from years and years ago

[lethal moat]

https://youtu.be/xk72IU1eVzs?si=cI6TU1cRWs-d-bq9

[acoustic osprey]

however
the island that just basically touches by pixel F5 is larger in that version

[hexed forge]

From 2022 right?

[fast forge]

but it does look like there is some underwater base near F5

[hexed forge]

When I see videos like these.. it reminds me of how much I actually suck at editing

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/ac6fc4f30ca2a95a2f43b83a1740408d you referring to this?

[fast forge]

ye

[hexed forge]

I dont think thats underwater

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, nov 2022

[fast forge]

it could be

[valid geyser]

I always go “I could do that”
And suddenly realise I, in-fact, cannot.

[fast forge]

could also be offshore

[hexed forge]

Real

[acoustic osprey]

if it floats
possibly
but it has a connection to the island
unless it's like a Ferry

and in the same location
there seems to be paths that match this area in-game

[lethal moat]

Kind of reminds me of this

[hexed forge]

Same ^

[fast forge]

It could be above or below the water, and it certainly looks like it has a connection to land there. If it's underwater I imagine that little island has a bunker hatch that leads into the facility

[hexed forge]

Also these things... could these be containers for chemicals? Or something else, if it is.... The cause of the leak incident

[lethal moat]

Crab research station activate

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/crab-knife-fight-gif-7305809

[fast forge]

I had the same thought. Could also be pillars?

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[fast forge]

but yeah that does look quite similar

[hexed forge]

EY, seems like some of it is underwater. But not all

[signal pivot]

is there gonna be a viable way to reach those smaller islands that are far out? maybe a bridge or something?

[hexed forge]

Rumple cracked the code

[signal pivot]

bridge or perhaps a boat. dumb question sort of

[acoustic osprey]

seems a bit too weird to be just pillars
might be some sort of liquid/substance containment

[hexed forge]

Bridge seems possible

[sterile spire]

I have question tho
Why dinosaurs

[lethal moat]

Probably small boats gen 2 could use I would guess, like we've seen in concept art

[hexed forge]

Oh god

[acoustic osprey]

ferry or bridge

[valid geyser]

Oh no.

[signal pivot]

hmm

[lethal moat]

Want an invite to the lore server?

[hexed forge]

CHEMICALSSSSS

[sterile spire]

Yed please

[fast forge]

probably

[hexed forge]

RUN WHILE YOU CAN

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/both-agree-yes-good-gif-4591420

[sterile spire]

No

[lethal moat]

I'll DM you

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[hexed forge]

Rest in peace DawgieTea

insert random numbers-2024

[acoustic osprey]

2172

[signal pivot]

sort of thinking about the bridges at the ocean here that go underwater

going through these at 5am in the morning right before sunrise definitley felt strange

[hexed forge]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

Channel Tunnel!!!! Channel Tunnel!!!!

(Ferry is far more cost effective)

[hexed forge]

Ey, I went through those in New York

[signal pivot]

sorry for the super crusty imagery

[lethal moat]

Boat

[hexed forge]

Why not just a bridge

[acoustic osprey]

you'd only have an underground tunnel if you have ships going above

[signal pivot]

truth, those are just really pretty

plus id imagine things would have to be transported

[hexed forge]

A bridge would be more cost effective no?

[acoustic osprey]

depends
if you do have ships

ferries still make it easier

[acoustic osprey]

tons of cement
vs
big ferry

[valid geyser]

Doesn’t that require fuel of some kind

[hexed forge]

Its not that big of a crossing tho, and also, you will have to pay for the ferry constantly, fuel, maintence, etc.

[fast forge]

You can even sell a ferry after you are done with it, even after decades. You can't sell a bridge on an uninhabited island

[lethal moat]

Yeah

[hexed forge]

The riverdelta bridge is longer than the crossing in the image

[hexed forge]

A bridge lasts longer

[valid geyser]

A friend of mine had a boat, they’re shockingly annoying to maintain and expensive, though that was a far smaller boat than whatever they’d use

[hexed forge]

^^^

[acoustic osprey]

all vehicles are expensive
especially anything made in europe

[hexed forge]

Why constantly pay for the maintence of a boat while you can just build a bridge once and have it last for awhile

[signal pivot]

Until,

[fast forge]

because they probably already do a lot of longer-distance shipping between islands too

[hexed forge]

The riverdelta river bridge is so much more longer than the crossing in the image

I dont see how it would cost more than a ferry

[acoustic osprey]

ferry can be moved around the island better

[hexed forge]

Oh

In that case

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[acoustic osprey]

and if they need to leave
it'd be easier for transport

[fast forge]

also, they are a massive industry company, they probably have fleets of ships already

[hexed forge]

The bridge for bases closer to the facility and ferry for things much farther

[acoustic osprey]

still
we know they use funky transport for things

e.g. Rex is transported with a heli

[lethal moat]

If you're only transporting people, then you can use smaller, more fuel efficient boats, but if you're transporting other things, then probably better for something with more heft

[signal pivot]

get a raft and paddle.

[lethal moat]

Yolo

[hexed forge]

Screw that, just swim.

[acoustic osprey]

^

[lethal moat]

Spawn in there tbh

[acoustic osprey]

GUTS!!!

[hexed forge]

Just be there already

[acoustic osprey]

it could just be GUTS
if the thing is stationary

[lethal moat]

Yep

[acoustic osprey]

and this looks like it goes underground as well

[signal pivot]

mmm underground transport

[acoustic osprey]

so if they're already got the infrastructure
GUTS there shouldn't be too hard

[hexed forge]

Gateway could literally just be an entire ant colony underground, tons of tunnels.

[acoustic osprey]

I would love to see it in spec cam once GUTS is in

[hexed forge]

It would be like those videos where a guy pours some type of metal into a colony

[signal pivot]

im gonna do that

[hexed forge]

Molten Aluminum! I think

Idk if Im right

[valid geyser]

I’d love to explore GUTS, either playing the game or spec cam, something

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/antz-z-antz-yowch-ouch-antz-movie-gif-25768247

[fast forge]

I bet the plan is for at least some of it to be in-game

[lethal moat]

I'll stick back and watch through the cameras

[hexed forge]

You will get lost and then the lights randomly go out... and then....

[signal pivot]

this is nice but the end scare is a little eh

[hexed forge]

I blame rumple

[lethal moat]

Nuh uh

[signal pivot]

I saw someone mention the jean jacket noises (nope 2022) and the popping sounds and such reminds me of the neuro spino noises tbh

[fast forge]

who made this?

[valid geyser]

I think it was Docktor who recommended those for quetz?

[signal pivot]

yeah yeah

[hexed forge]

I got it from Rumple

[lethal moat]

Don't know

[hexed forge]

The end really gives it the horror vibe

[normal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-where-did-you-get-that-confused-gif-15745776

[lethal moat]

Legacy stream

[normal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[lethal moat]

I enjoy knowledge

[normal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-hermaeus-mora-gif-25493131

[lethal moat]

You want an invite to the lore server?

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/simpsons-homer-bart-lisa-join-us-gif-13066208

[normal olive]

https://tenor.com/view/convince-me-why-should-i-tell-me-more-im-listening-convincing-gif-14535002

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184681758231363636/1226284679536312493/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp_4.mp4?ex=663e939a&is=663d421a&hm=562523bd89669f13cce09df65f544effa9af07fbc99aed6939e64dc956e307d5&

[hexed forge]

At this point you arent even trying to convince them to like lore, you literally just say

"Want lore server?" to anyone who talks here

[hexed forge]

💀

[lethal moat]

They made the mistake of coming to this portion of the server

https://tenor.com/view/west-side-story-fingers-snap-guys-gif-14423131

[hexed forge]

Fair enough

[fast forge]

typical pachy behavior

[hexed forge]

As a pachy main

I'm confused

[lethal moat]

You've never watched west side story?

[fast forge]

they are a street gang

and pachies are the street gangs of the isle

a bunch of punks, up to no good

they do it just for the thrill

[hexed forge]

I usually play in groups of 3 max, and only with people that I know. Sooo idk, I don't like being part of a giant pack ahaha

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

Alright I REALLY need to start learning video editing, I want to make fanmade lore videos.

[unborn knot]

The end is W

[lethal moat]

The end is near

[unborn knot]

I AM the end

the end cannot happen without me.

send me ALL OF THAT.

[lethal moat]

It's all stuff in the archive server

Just some things I like to have on hand so I don't have to go look for it

[unborn knot]

the Lorecord?

[lethal moat]

Nah, the archive server Run made

[unborn knot]

send.

[lethal moat]

It's in the partnered servers channel

[unborn knot]

Did anyone make memes of me whilest I went absent by any chance?

[lethal moat]

Don't think so

[fast forge]

the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never the end is never

[fast forge]

should I have?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

How dare you

[fast forge]

I don't even know this person...

https://tenor.com/view/rip-juice-cry-cat-kitten-tears-gif-15751834

I need to work on my memes I guess...

[unborn knot]

Yes. How dare you

[fast forge]

I don't know you and this is short notice, so...

https://tenor.com/view/greys-anatomy-meredith-grey-thats-the-best-i-can-offer-offer-that-is-my-best-and-final-offer-gif-24697183

[lethal moat]

The further up you go in lorecord memes, the more scuffed it gets

We do not talk about December 17, 2023

[iron anchor]

silky are you the crazy one or was that someone else

you had a moth pfp right

[lethal moat]

They did

[hexed forge]

Dead

[hexed forge]

I still have the edit about that day, including Jan 19th

[unborn knot]

that was me...

[unborn knot]

I love that-

[unborn knot]

dont mention that

that day should be deleted from history

im saving that edit tho-

[unborn knot]

how did you do that so fast

[fast forge]

I've made a lot of memes, and already have an app on my phone for it

[unborn knot]

bruh

wait thats actually really cool

[fast forge]

ty

[unborn knot]

whatever you do, if you see a moth PFP i was a different man back then... back wehn it- happened... we dont speak of that day...

[unborn knot]

Is pest still around?

[fast forge]

I mostly make memes around tv shows, and many of my favorite shows don't fit The Isle's main demographic (i.e. most people here aren't going to recognize an 'It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia' reference), so I usually don't make many isle memes

[unborn knot]

i see

[lethal moat]

Yep

[unborn knot]

W

[hexed forge]

It indeed is not always sunny here

( I did not get the reference)

[fast forge]

Its a tv show, very adult humor, most of it is not suitable for this 13+ server

Its also a show that is 19 years old, so yeah, older than many people in here

Millennials like myself really like it

[fast forge]

Hyper bananas

[lethal moat]

A coconut

[fast forge]

one BIG coconut

[hexed forge]

Kaiju coconut

[ornate comet]

Huh

I’m gonna have to ask you to talk about it

[fast forge]

EIP Mangoes

[acoustic osprey]

lol

however
bringing up that point

it makes me wonder
not with mangoes of course. But with their general dinosaur stuff

[hexed forge]

Ahoy

[valid geyser]

Wdym not with mangoes.,,…,

[hexed forge]

Human mind inside a mango

Its perfect

[acoustic osprey]

we know, basically from that gif (unless it was supposed to be misleading?) that things like Augustus are EIPs
at least, Augustus was an EIP.

He didn't really seem to have any favourability prior to his anomalous behaviour
But he was an EIP through and through

So... what is the extent of EIPs with dinosaurs?
When did they start using EIPs with dinosaurs? Have they always used EIPs with dinos
- and if so: Did they use this to any advantage in terms of contract stuff? Did they know they'd become dinosaurs? Or did they just sign up to be basically implanted inside of a mind of whatever "X" thing AE wanted.

It makes me wonder
At least, the timeline of such with these things.

Especially when Augustus was made.
How long in the "AE" timeline

If we did know
we'd get a rough estimate on when they used EIPs on dinos
nothing on when they started- but at least something timeline-wise is still good

[patent ginkgo]

hold up, could replication also work on EIPs? cause the anomalous behaviour that augustus displayed were present in all subsequent replications

[acoustic osprey]

well, that's more of a behavioural "parental" thing?
That just depends on how his replications and his natural off-spring were parented

seeing as this is a behavioural mutation and not a physical

[patent ginkgo]

thats true

[acoustic osprey]

look at The Lost World novel
basically akin to this

how the raptors were basically maniacs because they had no true parental figures

[lethal moat]

I think that our assumptions of EIPs from legacy might be throwing off our accuracy of what EIPs will actually end up being

[acoustic osprey]

and then when those maniacs had kids
they basically embedded their kids with their maniacal "zoo" behaviour

[signal pivot]

I never thought ab that

[hexed forge]

What if we stop talking about EIPs till we get info on them

[fast forge]

I'd argue that the wording "subsequent replications" suggests that they just used the same EIP on all Augustus replications (sticking with my theory that EIP's are just files that can be downloaded into bodies a number of times)

[acoustic osprey]

I'd say it depends on what ethical status AE sits with the idea of replicating a mind several times

rather than it being a linear approach of "live -> die -> live"
You'd just have a horde of you (or him? her? How do you know you're the original 🙂 ) living at once

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-simpsons-gif-21035358

[fast forge]

That's kinda my take, but also they aren't you because they are only in the mind of an animal (unless AE creations are all genetically human or something)

I see it like, you have a ball of clay - that is a person's mind. If you push that mind through a star-shaped hole (a carnotaurus) it will become star-shaped, and not a ball (human) any more, even if it's still made of the same stuff

[lethal moat]

The giant crabs names are now all Fredric Esquire III

[lethal moat]

Hear me out

The domes are anthills, GUTS is the tunnels, Tartarus is the queen’s chamber

[knotty locust]

DUDE NO WAY

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/765564904249098240/1029415987658899626/Video_sin_titulo_Hecho_con_Clipchamp_2.gif?ex=66403819&is=663ee699&hm=017fa72be73c1110aae3209626a5f5bccb5b55431dbf2638a9e76873f72e49c0&

[lethal moat]

AM-180 in the isle when?

It fits my idea of riot control gear as AE’s primary security gear

[fast forge]

no

[median hornet]

GRAAH BUILD THE NEST

[hexed forge]

Thats too small, just a small gun smh.

What about a fox 2 missile?

[lethal moat]

But 250 rounds of .22lr automatic

[fast forge]

I don't understand this talk

Let's discuss the possibility of the replicator utilizing pluripotent stem cells

[patent ginkgo]

Guh

[lethal moat]

Stem cells are super interesting

[fast forge]

I just used big words, but wasn't really saying anything. "pluripotent stem cells" are the same as regular stem cells as far as the public understands them

[patent ginkgo]

Ah lol. I probably could’ve looked it up but i wanted to let you have your moment of knowledge (not that those are rare for you lol)

It’s awesome to have someone who properly knows stuff about biology in the lore community

[lethal moat]

Having specialists is certainly handy

[fast forge]

tbh I'm the least-paid person at the biotech company where I work, and I didn't even finish my undergrad degree in zoology, but yeah I know a few things

Specialist might be pushing it

[lethal moat]

You know more than we do, and you made your job out of it, I’d call you a specialist

[fast forge]

😊

[hexed forge]

What about a PATRIOT Missile defense system? Wouldnt that be a default security weapon 🤔

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/missile-war-fire-gif-9210231

[lethal moat]

Not for riot control, no

[hexed forge]

What about an Abrams tank

[lethal moat]

Not usually

[hexed forge]

aw man

[swift echo]

Please. PLEASEEE

[pale marsh]

You think AE has the ability to "mind control" certain assets? Like gen1?

It'd, certainly make more sense for them to want direct control of them as opposed to letting wreak havok unchained

Maybe not
Direct control like an RC car
But
Someway to disable them for extraction

Doubt you'd want to leave these rummaging about after their job is done

[lethal moat]

Tracking chips + a lil sedative

[pale marsh]

Sedative as in tranqs? Cuz that's pretty risky for what are giant vicious ogre bioweapons

[hexed forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBREXNQYiA Is this good? (Sorry for the watermark, aint paying them crap for now)

[lethal moat]

If it’s directly to the brain, it’s not as risky

[pale marsh]

I can work with that

[spiral elbow]

on a similar note, robo quetz terrifies me because the concept art had it kind of look like a living quetz to me, just with the face carved out and robotics installed in it

[pale marsh]

I
Personally doubt it's still alive
Just has the nervous system hijacked by the tech

Unless it is alive, and still is hijacked . . .

[lethal moat]

I like the idea of necron quetz

[pale marsh]

Idk much about necroms or 40k

But

The idea of using machine implants to maybe replace the quetz with a new EIP?
Depending on how EIPs work ofc

[lofty swallow]

like say kill the original and another could pop in the body?

[pale marsh]

Yeag

[lofty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/si-jake-hora-de-aventura-cabecear-asíes-gif-21457695

sounds pretty awesome honestly

[acoustic osprey]

Use DaVinci
It's free

[hexed forge]

Check DMs, I asked which version

[dark panther]

So question... the eyeless were AE's first attempt at replicating humans?? Or did they do it on purpose? Do We Know????

[acoustic osprey]

Gen1s were more so the "first attempts"

Eyeless are, to what we know, is likely somewhere in the middle between gen1s and 2s

[hexed forge]

"gen 1.5"

[hexed forge]

Hey can anyone give me an idea on a lore video ?

[lethal moat]

The eyeless and gen 1 aren’t the same thing, but gen 1 still exist after gen 2 were made, so it’s probably a bit of both

[ornate comet]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

you know if anything id be the one watching the video since I dont know much lol sorry

I just saw no one replied to you so I wanted to try and give an idea

[hexed forge]

I got some suggestions in lorecord so its fine

[dusty bobcat]

Diabloceratops is a government plan to not allow Omni to be Omni

[lethal moat]

Omni will pounce to pin dibble to the very end

[dusty bobcat]

But is

Is we bro 🙏🏻

[lethal moat]

I wonder what the very first dinosaur would have been, probably an herbivore or omnivore right? It’s easier to take care of.

[acoustic osprey]

if you want to build an environment, best start with herbivores as a majority
but you could really hit the environment the first few times.

[lethal moat]

The first dino might give some hint at what the end goal was

[acoustic osprey]

but I definitely see dinos (or at least dino gens) prior to their injection being tested in a "biodome" environment first

[lethal moat]

Potentially

[acoustic osprey]

not really on the same topic
but it would make the most sense.

Just with the "second injection" aspect.
But who knows

it also depends on how fast they creatures grow

[lofty swallow]

I thought it cost like 300 dollars or something?

I might be thinking of adobe

[acoustic osprey]

there's a studio version of DaVinci, I use that.
But the non-studio version, which is pretty good for what it is, is free

[lofty swallow]

oh nice, I'll probably check that out, I've been using Shotcut for the past 2 years soo.. xD

[lethal moat]

Growing/cloning vats could help with that

[acoustic osprey]

Shotcut is nice
used that for a bit then went to Pr because it's basically Shotcut but way more extensive
but DaVinci is honestly so much better

especially for studio liking colouring raw films

[lofty swallow]

good to know, yeah I've finally started to get.. not utterly terrible at editing so it'd be nice to upgrade software

[acoustic osprey]

that's a bit weird in my opinion.
If you have a vat to just "skip" X growth period
your creature still lacks essential youth growth for sociological behaviour

[acoustic osprey]

[lethal moat]

Could be explained through EIPs

[lofty swallow]

do you think EIPs know that the other dinosaurs are EIPs, therefor having a psychological connection, basically resulting to the lore reason to mixpacking (other than people just, not caring about the people who aren't in their mixpack)?

[lethal moat]

I think there’s a lot we don’t know, and that there’s enough stuff that’s unfinished that we can’t really guess based off of player behavior

[lofty swallow]

well that's the LOORRREEEE for ya I guess, time to start theorizing again

[lethal moat]

We know a lot and a lot of nothing

[patent ginkgo]

EIPs bring in a whole new dimension to think about

So many things you could do with them

Which makes it rather hard to theorize with any certainty about them

[lethal moat]

I think it’s a very good way of explaining obscure player behavior, but knowing why and more than what we’re just assuming could provide more context to what would be defined as normal vs anomalous

That’s right, with a little bit of funky positioning, you, yes you, can be the next Augustus 🫵

[fast forge]

already am 😉

[patent ginkgo]

Herrasaur

[lethal moat]

Join lore today, and you too can be famous

[lofty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-finn-hair-reveal-sass-gif-5083423

gotta grow out more hair to become the next anomaly! wooo

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-freedom-democracy-spread-gif-7274461004019253594

[crisp raven]

dying game

[dark panther]

Maybe AE wanted a super soldier and the eyeless were what they came up with. The echidna was called the mother of canables.. but that seems to reference gen1.. but for some reason I feel like the echidna is mother of the eyeless rather than the gen1.. if gen1 are even the canables in that regard.

[dark panther]

Unless they are related.. if the eyeless are a strain of gen1 for instance.
I'm bringing this up because one of the most asked questions is "why dinosaurs?"
I think.. obviously.. gen1 and/or the eyeless are a huge clue to that.. but of course we aren't given enough information to draw a solid conclusion.

Bringing that smoke first thing in the morning. 🤪

[hybrid wagon]

this

its also got a bunch of effects and stuff for free

[hexed forge]

I downloaded it yesterday, ima check it out soon

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 is probably closer to a weapon than a super soldier if they were used that way, and the neurotenic mastermind was described as “the mother of cannibals” which could apply to both old tribals and the eyeless, we’ll see which traits stay and which don’t

[lethal moat]

I could see the eyeless being a sort of proto-strain, potentially like we’ve theorized the giant crabs to be, but we’ll see how connected and how disconnected gen 1 are to dinosaurs

Also, you should totally join the lore server

[strange shell]

Is there new info on the giant crabs btw ?
Like how big they actually are ?

[hexed forge]

Big

[lethal moat]

When we asked, I think they said they got big enough to snip an omni in half

[strange shell]

zamn

[slow delta]

i should add stuff about the diabloceratops report to my lore document but im lazy because most of it is advertising and lore sauce :/

[lethal moat]

We’ve got it in the lore theory document, you’re covered already

[hexed forge]

Isaac is also making an entire video on it.. Well... there is a section of the video that covers it.. (The video is massive)

[lethal moat]

Lightclaw is a pretty rad dude

[slow delta]

erm i'd rather do it my way

||erm what the sigma||

[lethal moat]

Totally fine, your document has been super useful

[slow delta]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/837928372524810310/1041717034372833280/gwen_gigachad.gif

[lethal moat]

Want an invite to the lore server?

[slow delta]

shoot

[lethal moat]

I’ll DM you

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-stare-100-yard-stare-meme-gif-251436459491629941

[pale marsh]

This is
Incredibly upsetting I'll have you know

[pale marsh]

I was gonna make an ark karkinos joke

But then I realized the giant crabs is just another connection to Greek myth

[lethal moat]

[ripe plank]

I have never thought in my entire life that i would see a GIGA CHAD Gwen Tennyson

[slow delta]

you're welcome

[hexed forge]

What would be a good incident name for a species developing... larger strength capabilities...?

Develops more muscle mass?

[lofty swallow]

mutations

[hexed forge]

Yes... but like..

I need more science!

@fast forge sos

[valid geyser]

Give me a second I could totally make up a word

[hexed forge]

Quetzdabestasaurus

[valid geyser]

Tachymyo… uh… wait I need a suffix that means GROWTH

So far that’s rapid muscle

Oh oh-
Tachymyophysis
That should be rapid muscle growth.. completely made up word but the prefix, root and suffix literally means rapid muscle growth

…I’m gonna make sure that’s not a word

It’s not

[valid geyser]

And if you just want muscle growth then it’s Myophysis

[lethal moat]

Given each player could be an EIP, and the number of players that play the game, what makes the most sense as recruiting process for EIPs given the playerbase

I’m thinking prisons, like D-class personnel

[valid geyser]

[lethal moat]

It also would explain the absolute lack of empathy and heinous nature of most of the players

[valid geyser]

What level of prisons though, are they going for people who are doomed for the death penalty already or maybe just people in high security, or would they also be going for people who entered because of a small crime?

[lethal moat]

You can kill a body if they’ve already had an EIP made, that would just allow for copies or recreations to be put into different things

Like actors allowing their AI likeness to be used in movies

[strange sinew]

Could somebody explain to me what Island Walkers are?

Perhaps a picture because alledgedly theres a picture of one under titan lake

[lethal moat]

Used to be on land

That skeleton is the extent of what we know

Not sure if it’ll be returning to Evrima

[strange sinew]

Unfortunate

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-rads-radiation-counter-gif-6369229076219259168

[lethal moat]

That cannot be healthy

[signal pivot]

Ah scp I love

[lethal moat]

[fast forge]

So first a bit of terminology: an incident describes a specific event. We had an "Incident Report" video wherein Augustus is found exhibiting anomalous abilities and destroying equipment. We also had an "Incident Summary" document describing how Errant 291 appeared mysteriously. I imagine reports are longer-form, describing the event in full to someone with knowledge and context, while summaries are single-document briefs that be dropped on a boss's desk before a meeting

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/imostergolfra-gif-25274972

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[hexed forge]

Incident report would be the correct term for my planned project

[fast forge]

I think a big factor in the formatting of the document will be determined by two questions: "Who is the document written by?" and "Who is the document written for?"

[hexed forge]

Deinosuchus developing(mutating?) Muscle mass to be able to drown a stego

[fast forge]

If it is meant to be written by a scientist and read by another scientist, you could make it a "Technical Report" (or a summary of a technical report)

If you are describing an incident where an individual causes an event (like augustus destroying equipment) you could call it an "Incident Report" or "Incident Summary"

Once again, the report would be scientist to scientist communication (and much longer if written), while a summary would be from a scientist to a higher-up and could be a single sheet

[hexed forge]

Hmm

Then it's a summary?

[fast forge]

Probably, unless you want to write a dozen pages of material

The only reason Augustus is short and a report is that it is a video, and contains a lot of info

[hexed forge]

then it's a summary

[hexed forge]

Well mine is supposed to have a video too

[fast forge]

It's possible also that this delineation - report vs summary - could be entirely false, and they are the same thing, but all we've got are these two examples to go by, so I'd follow that methodology

[acoustic osprey]

the Augustus video is a report with an accompanying slideshow

summary might just be too short to actually fit a singular slideshow

or the footage given is just too lacklustre to really fit the writings

however
I wish 291 was a report

[fast forge]

I imagine that Errant 291 also got a full report, but the summary came later (and it's all we saw)

It's a summary of the report

[acoustic osprey]

it's likely done because humans, especially in 2022, were no where near done

[acoustic osprey]

all we know is that it's a summary of an event, not a report

[fast forge]

fair, I just can't imagine the summary to be the only thing written on it (conceptually, in-lore, like if we had access to all their documents)

[acoustic osprey]

the only video of 291 being that he just went outside out of his shift

[acoustic osprey]

if there is too little information to write upon, a summary might just have to do.
There already exists an autopsy report though

[fast forge]

Formatting aside, I still haven't actually answered ceratos questions

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
is it on purpose or did this occur randomly

like with Augustus

[fast forge]

This might be your best bet for formatting style ^^^

[hexed forge]

This is the "video"/"tcam" part of the video

Migrating herd of stegosaurus assets stop at the North Lake to take a rest. Two individuals move toward the Lake and one of them attempt to wash the dirt off its body by swimming in the Lake. After 5-7 seconds the 6 ton fully grown stegosaurus is lunged by a deinosuchus and gets dragged underwater. Presumably being finished off by another deinosuchus while the other one holds the stegosaurus.

Usually the deinosuchus specimen lacks the strength to be able to drag a stegosaurus underwater. However, this specimen, named as foemenfi(name covered) was able to do it with no problems. Researchers say the deinosuchus developed stronger muscle mass than the rest of the species. Specimen is awaiting to be Entombed and replicated.

This is only 1/3... but I could split it into 3 videos

[valid geyser]

Are you like, filming this?

[hexed forge]

Yes, I need actors

[acoustic osprey]

i don't mind helping

[patent ginkgo]

me neither

[valid geyser]

I would GLADLY help

[acoustic osprey]

just gotta send the time

[south wind]

I’d love to help!

[valid geyser]

Yeah just set a date and time and I’ll see if I’m available

[patent ginkgo]

also, we should keep the skins of things relatively natural and similar within species

[hexed forge]

Well don't worry about the date and time of filming yet, still need to do a lot more work

[valid geyser]

Wdym?! White deinos aren’t natural?!

[hexed forge]

Aye

[acoustic osprey]

pre-production is the most important part of a production!!

[hexed forge]

That's the word I was looking for

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[fast forge]

if you are going with machinima, you may want to write a script

[hexed forge]

Machi- what now?

[acoustic osprey]

tank

[south wind]

Machinima 🥲 takes me back to halo 3 days

[hexed forge]

T-80 thanks

[fast forge]

technically the dibble video was machinima, and many video game trailers

[acoustic osprey]

basically all video game trailers are

[hexed forge]

Yea- wha- huh

[acoustic osprey]

at least, more modern ones.

[hexed forge]

I'm going to film it via ingame

[fast forge]

that, plus cinematic scenes or just game footage for scripted games

[hexed forge]

Since I know the Dibble video technically wasn't filmed ingame

[hexed forge]

No machinima ahaha

[fast forge]

Dibble I don't know if they had "actors", or if all the dinosaurs were just posed models (like claymation)

[acoustic osprey]

iirc, Seiza doesn't use actors

[fast forge]

that's machinima

[hexed forge]

Oh

[south wind]

Machinima isn’t a program, it’s just a name for what you’re doing 🙂

[fast forge]

makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

she just uses in-game animations
put's on a walk/run path

she used to prior to being a dev though, use actors for unofficial isle cinematics that is

[hexed forge]

The QA team would be goofing around

[south wind]

Would be happy to help you though, sounds fun!

[fast forge]

it's much easier to make everything go exactly as planned when you are posing models and such

[acoustic osprey]

and it's all done in the engine
I don't imagine actors being the easier alternative as well

[fast forge]

actors are the cheaper and faster alternative

[acoustic osprey]

referring for dinos, actors would be slower and more production hell

[fast forge]

and less professional-looking (game company vs fan-made)

[acoustic osprey]

unless (IF) we had proper human trailers
which would be a lot more easier to use actual actors

[fast forge]

Like a fan-made machinima usually would use actors because you can be a little more sloppy with it, while a dev-made trailer wouldn't because you want it to look professional

[acoustic osprey]

and you have the ability to be very nitpicky with dev stuff

you have all the tools to move and nudge around

[hexed forge]

Should I start the video similar to the Augustus video?

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
don't go crazy for your first one

[fast forge]

it's all about what you want the context to be, and fit that around your capabilities

[acoustic osprey]

step by step
you won't die for trying to imitate the Augustus video the first time

[patent ginkgo]

id say just some basic footage and a few effects on top would suffice. you can put further text in the description if its going on youtube

[fast forge]

Yeah, Augustus was what, someone hacking into their system or something? On top of all the Augustus stuff? Kinda complex

[acoustic osprey]

well, that first part is a big "hmm"

but it's another case of Don's perfect "kill me, I need to know more about this" writing

[hexed forge]

I might just make it start with the file(slide show?) Of the incident loading in

[acoustic osprey]

go for it
bit by bit

[hexed forge]

Shouldn't be hard

(Last words)

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[fast forge]

yeah even augustus shows different files being opened and stuff

multiple videos and written portions all within the context of someone logging into the system and looking around

[acoustic osprey]

(that's what Hacker get's wrong in his mock videos)

[fast forge]

Much easier would just be one of those videos like Augustus, perhaps with a bit of text

[acoustic osprey]

he presumed this is a "checklist"

[hexed forge]

Oh it's not?-

[acoustic osprey]

but we see the OLYMPUS user move up from "hard disk" to the "local monitoring camera system"

and then, video follows up with the MCAM footage

which seems to be a live panel

which means the incident report and when the OLYMPUS user access' the footage is quite close

[fast forge]

Your easiest route might just be to follow the dibble vid format, but without the extra conceptual layer of distortions

[acoustic osprey]

but not too close that it happens right after
as we know a report summary was made between

which means Augustus was attacking H4 for quite some time?

thing is though
they refer to Augustus being entombed

[fast forge]

and subsequent replications remain in tartarus

[patent ginkgo]

yeah the live feed isnt augustus

[acoustic osprey]

however, that might not be Augustus

[acoustic osprey]

(thing is, the MCAMs destroyed by Augustus are still destroyed)

[patent ginkgo]

hmm, interesting

so yeah sounds like its very close

wait but they had already made replications of augustus by that point

[acoustic osprey]

so either it's negligence to fix from the behalf of AE
or this happened when "post-incident" (as in, AE's lesser control)
or it's all just anomalous in behaviour and it happened "only days after Augustus"

but heck

[patent ginkgo]

makes me wonder how often maintainance is done on gateway

[acoustic osprey]

we don't even know when the report was made
when Augustus was taken to be replicated
and when he was entombed

[acoustic osprey]

nothing in natural offspring though

which makes me wonder on what we were talking about a few days back upon "Replications vs naturally made things"

[fast forge]

To finally answer your initial point, you can use terms like "novel mutation" (novel means new in this context)
So like
"The captured Deinosuchus exhibited increased strength and stamina as a result of a novel mutation in muscle mass"

[hexed forge]

Tbh I forgot about my original question LOL

[hexed forge]

Alright

[fast forge]

You just wanted a good name for the mutation

[hexed forge]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

novel is a bit 50/50
you still might need another descriptor to describe it's relation to AE itself

whether being done by them or randomly occurring

novel does work a bit
being that is new and/or unusual

but it's just a bit broad to be properly on point

[hexed forge]

It's meant to be random and unusual for the deinosuchus species

[fast forge]

I figured that part would be contextual - they discovered this mutated individual

[hexed forge]

Causing that specimen to get entombed and replicated.. similar to the Augustus situation

[fast forge]

If AE made it themselves then the entire format would be different

It would be communications between scientists, a technical report or something

[acoustic osprey]

we're still yet to know more on that though
the format, itself, is pretty simple

it could be used for a mutation done by AE that occurred to an incident (like Augustus destroying the MCAMs is the "incident" part of the report)

[fast forge]

That would be testing then, yes? Releasing a mutant individual and seeing what they can do

Or I suppose an "Evaluation" like we saw with the diablo video

Because that's basically what they were doing with the dibbles - testing a new cross, a new mutation

Perhaps even titling it "Post-Injection Evaluation"

[hexed forge]

Ye

[hexed forge]

Anyways, this is what it's meant to be. No test

[fast forge]

I wonder though, if a deino attacking a stego would be an "incident"
Like Augustus only felt like an incident because of the destruction of property

Yes, the assets are all technically property too, but predation is kind of expected

Perhaps calling it like
"Anomalous Behavior Report"
"Anomalous Mutation Report"
"Novel Mutation Report"
"Novel Behavior Report"

or something like that

idk

Imma go play Oblivion

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-car-steal-hubcap-run-gif-14032396

[acoustic osprey]

you know what would be interesting
a anomalous unexplained re-occuring mutation that occurs within all replications but not natural off spring

[hexed forge]

Elaborate

[fast forge]

The replicator adding her own secret ingredient

[hexed forge]

Sometimes the assets get a bit- OHHH ISAAC I SEE WHAT YOU MEAN NOW

[hexed forge]

So, strains ?

[fast forge]

Although if it's a genetic factor, why wouldn't natural-born individuals have it?

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, strains seem more known to AE

[fast forge]

Unless it's only present in somatic cells (cells of the body) and not the reproductive organs

[hexed forge]

Could it be a skin mutation? Or an ability mutation? Or both

[fast forge]

In theory the replicator could easily make the body with a desired mutation, but leave that mutation out of gamete production

(avoiding the automod a bit here feel free to look up the word gamete)

In the real world this would be somewhat difficult to engineer, but if you are sci-fi 3D-printing embryos then it's no problem

Uhhh I guess that's a long way of saying "yes you can have a mutation that only affects an individual but not offspring"

(you could also do it with epigenetics - the children have the genes, but they are switched off)

[acoustic osprey]

could be behavioural, physical or sociological

stuff like sociological is a bit harder to write
because it's an aspect that might use both behavioural and physical

Behavioural is kinda hard
but if you're looking for things "similar" in that regard, just look at the Augustus video

[lethal moat]

Or a report of how difficult gen 1 are to keep in groups because they work together half the time and eat each other half the time, or like those glance sheets with the gallimimus

[acoustic osprey]

Mmmm

[ionic sable]

Mmmm?

[valid geyser]

Mmmm..?

[maiden lynx]

Mmmmmmm..?

[maiden sundial]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm..?

[lethal moat]

Mmmm?

[patent ginkgo]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. ?

[signal pivot]

https://youtu.be/NqEgm1f_FII?si=G73SQ-JZs14aDl93

[unborn knot]

Im craving lore

someone satisfy me

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/wrecked-you-wrecked-it-just-wrecked-lego-movie-lord-business-gif-9391545

Anyway, I’m feeling infrastructure talk today, so lets talk about the different islands and buildings on those islands, I kind of want a lighthouse

[scarlet verge]

I want to see the finished docks

And the monorail since I didn't see it the first time people were streaming gateway. And to see what buildings it connects to

[hexed forge]

Into the mountains!

[scarlet verge]

I like the new name lol

Didn't Felipe or someone give us kind of a preview about how the tunnel system in the mountains was going to look?

Like it basically would have a cave-in, but had side tunnels to go around? I feel like that was a long time ago though

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/song-aang-atla-hippie-sing-gif-13853815

[lethal moat]

If you could find that, I would be very interested

[fast forge]

I want docks everywhere

[scarlet verge]

Pretty sure it was this one. But also I didn't realize this interview was with Isaac https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jD0j2jh7-JE

[lethal moat]

That one was fun

[scarlet verge]

Yeah I remember watching it the first time a few months ago and it got me hyped for the monorail and tunnels

Roughly ~12:00 mark talks about the cave-ins and tunnels

[lethal moat]

I’ll be sure to check that out

Been awhile since I watched that one

[scarlet verge]

Yeah I just rewatched it since I found it

[maiden sundial]

You broke the chain

[signal pivot]

ITS STILL AN MMM

[maiden sundial]

You right

[maiden sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/itadori-angry-jujutsu-kaisen-episode12-gif-19653132

You broke the chain

[hexed forge]

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

[maiden sundial]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmm

[hexed forge]

First page

So far going good

[strange rapids]

😍

[hexed forge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AMXKl_7XPT0mE23Cnb4u-kUkitNhyEC70D3pnFSCbaI/edit?usp=sharing Script should be finalized

Let me know your thoughts @fast forge @acoustic osprey

[fast forge]

Twice you say "approximately" and then give the exact time

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

Is it exactly 15:23, or is it "approx. 15:00"?

[hexed forge]

Oh wait Im stupid

https://tenor.com/view/fml-sylvester-cat-annoyed-headbang-gif-7605980029532191439

[fast forge]

Typically if you are going down to the minute, you don't need to say approx because the seconds aren't relevant

[hexed forge]

Would 15:20 work?

[fast forge]

sure

or just leave approximately out, either way

[hexed forge]

Oh wait it would make sense for it to be exact since it was on camera that was recording the time 🤔

[fast forge]

But yeah, if you are writing up a summary of something on footage, you'd have the timestamp at hand

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

Also the "Researchers stated" before the section about them bathing is a bit unnecessary, anyone could probably tell they are bathing

[hexed forge]

Alr

[fast forge]

Is this intended to be a script for the video portion?

[hexed forge]

Yes

This yes

The summary sections are supposed to be the texts

[hexed forge]

Like these

[fast forge]

Maybe follow the methodology of a script - "Stegosaurus herd enters from camera left"

This mostly depends on whether you want to be very specific about what your actors are doing in each shot, or if they can kinda pick their own paths

[hexed forge]

I still havent figured out where the cameras will be sooo

[hexed forge]

Limited freedom

Not super specific

[fast forge]

Okay then, kind of an ad-lib situation I getcha

[hexed forge]

Like Its not supposed to be like

"Sub-adult stegosaurus walks for about 3 seconds and stops to sniff for food, then turns 25 degrees to the right and continues walking"

[fast forge]

(btw I've never written a script before, so I'm really not speaking with any authority in this sense)

[hexed forge]

Me neither

[fast forge]

It is notable that they are not repeating repeating anything that was in the video here. This is almost all new information that's not in the clip

[fast forge]

So like the specifics of the stegosaurs arriving at the lake isn't even important to a researcher, but might be helpful if your actors are going to be portraying it

[hexed forge]

What about this? This kind of explains what happens in the clip right?

[fast forge]

Only because it happens so fast in the clip that it requires explanation.

If we see a group of stegos with a nest at a lake, we can assume that they arrived there at some point

[hexed forge]

I mean it would be important to atleast mention the growth/size of the stegosaurus 🤔

Also this right here, I know I havent done it. But I will add timestamps just like I did before.

Oh just realized the augustus video does timestamps too

[fast forge]

Is the audience seeing this text, or only the actors reading the script?

[hexed forge]

The summary text will be seen by the audience

This

[fast forge]

Notice how short and quick the augustus info is, two sentences. They didn't need to tell us the age of each individual, and what they did prior to the relevant actions

[hexed forge]

Well

[fast forge]

At the core, you are conveying that a Deinosuchus attacked a swimming stego, and it hasn't happened before.

[hexed forge]

Hm wdym?

[fast forge]

The size of the herd, the age of the individuals, the fact that they were eating (big herbivores are always eating) - this is all kinda superfluous

[fast forge]

I'm saying, convey that same information in the same amount of space that they used for that Augustus blurb

[hexed forge]

Ah I see, it wouldnt count as a summary then 🤔 Too specific

[fast forge]

--/--/--

3:23 PM - A large undocumented deinosuchus is able to grasp and drown a swimming stegosaurus, a behavior previously thought impossible for this species.

[hexed forge]

It attacking the stegosaurus isnt the unusual part, the unusual part is it being able to drag the stegosaurus down into the water.

[fast forge]

there, simple edit

[hexed forge]

👍

[fast forge]

idk something like that

[hexed forge]

I think I made a mistake on my side, I used the words summary in my script. But the video itself wasnt supposed to be a summary I think. When I was doing the script atleast it wasnt supposed to be a quick summary.

Im not sure anymore...

[fast forge]

Also remember that writing truly good fiction often leaves some questions unanswered - the mystery is what makes it appealing

[hexed forge]

Time to just highlight a bunch of words with a black highlighter

[fast forge]

Just keep working on it, you're new at this, it's not gonna be perfect right away

That's how you get better

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-jurassic-gif-7496067

[lethal moat]

Wonder how often contamination events occur

They’re on a tropical island, a single mosquito lands in the cloning vat and ruins the whole rex

Or maybe creates something new, who knows

[hexed forge]

I think its good now? Im not sure.. I shortened it

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1AMXKl_7XPT0mE23Cnb4u-kUkitNhyEC70D3pnFSCbaI/edit?usp=sharing

[fast forge]

cleanroom conditions aren't really harder in tropical environments, maybe just humidity controls

[fast forge]

Follow this format:
#isle-lore-theories message

You say:
"15:23 The afternoon of --/--/----"

Some notes I have:

• It seems AE uses a 12-hour clock, not the 24-hour abbreviation you use (AE would call it 3:23 PM)

• The linked Augustus blurb states the date at the beginning, not inside the text itself

• If the audience knows it is 3:23 PM, they know it is the afternoon

I'd go SUPER simple with it:

--/--/----

3:23 PM - event

3:25 PM - event

[hexed forge]

But military time is cool

Jokin

Alr I will change it to the 12 hour one

[fast forge]

Also, once again, why are you telling the audience that the stegos arrived at the lake? The Augustus blurb doesn't bother with info like that - only what is exactly necessary

[hexed forge]

I wouldnt want it to be exactly the same format as the AUGUSTUS video

Its a small little detail, I think it should stay

[fast forge]

This part - if you are redacting stuff, you have to have a reason to redact the stuff. Why can't the reader know how many deinos were expected in that lake? Also, why is that whole second part redacted? I had no idea what you were trying to convey there - redacted material should enhance the mystery, not leave the reader confused

as far as I know, that end reads
"... Deinosuchus specimens, one of which was confirmed |to be a big silly dummy-head|

Why not just tell the audience that the deino can mutate?

[valid geyser]

With the mystery part, if you want to keep the mystery, something like
“One of which was confirmed to have ||hahaahahah.|| mutation” or something, keeps the mutation but makes it a mystery, idk I’m no professional lore person

[fast forge]

^^^

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-know-no-idea-dont-know-what-i-am-doing-dog-space-gif-13573944

[valid geyser]

Then later on it can be fully revealed, idk, depends what the blank was supposed to be

[fast forge]

Best advice I can give - read all of this, every last part:

https://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/how-to-write-an-scp

[lethal moat]

Wet socks

[fast forge]

A cleanroom is a building inside of a building - no way you are getting that far in without changing your socks

[lethal moat]

Wet socks will change a man

[fast forge]

There are a few parts that aren't super relevant, feel free to skim those

This in particular is relevant

[hexed forge]

I read

oh wait

I only read the introduction

[fast forge]

yeah there's a bunch of tabs, you read the intro

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-think-were-gonna-be-here-for-a-while-long-time-all-nighter-saw-gif-16238293

[fast forge]

It's a worthy read, if you want to make fiction of this sort

I read it a few years ago when I was throwing around some SCP concepts

Tbh Don sticks to this style so well that I wouldn't be surprised if he has read this document, or even has experience with SCP stuff

[lethal moat]

I wonder if there are any other strain adjacent creatures

[fast forge]

I had a theory a bit ago that strains were related to specific types of medical research

[lethal moat]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/c/cb/Zoanthrope_Leviathan.png/revision/latest?cb=20150319195604

[lethal moat]

Zoanthrope as neuro adjacent

[fast forge]

Hyperendocrin could be growth hormone research

Tissoplastic research would involve skin

Neurotenic would be research on the brain

[fast forge]

Zoanthrope? Where did you get this word?

[lethal moat]

Tissos regrow limbs and organs

[lethal moat]

Warhammer 40k

[fast forge]

perhaps just stem cell research

Ah yes, zoanthrope roughly just translates to "animal man"

zoo = animal
anthropo = man

(just like the "zoo" in zooplankton, or the "zoo" in zoological park)

honestly the term could probably apply to Gen 1

[hexed forge]

Tiny would "Novel Deinosuchus Mutation" or would "Deinosuchus novel mutation" make sense

[fast forge]

(idk how they name ties into anything with the Tyranid biology, they might have just decided it's a cool word)

[hexed forge]

Since novel means new iirc

[fast forge]

def the first one

[lethal moat]

Novel ~ original

[lethal moat]

The tyranid basically ate a psycer and got psionic powers

[hexed forge]

"of a new and unusual kind; different from anything seen or known before"

[fast forge]

oh like a genestealer thing? idk 40K lore makes me tired..

[lethal moat]

Kinda

[hexed forge]

It would make sense in the context of an unusual deino mutation

[fast forge]

The first of those two choices sounds much closer to scientific terminology

[lethal moat]

Problem is, you can only make so many creature types before you just resort to making a creature an amorphous blob of violence

Neuro adjacent just being Bob:

https://tenor.com/view/bob-monsters-vs-aliens-forgot-how-to-breathe-gif-24833888

[fast forge]

lol I worked at a video store when that movie came out

y'know, cause I'm old

[hexed forge]

I think I have an Idea to justify this,

So what if the two sections that contain the times are notes from the researchers that monitor the herd, AE could have just yoinked them from the researchers to include it into the incident report as background information?

[fast forge]

then they would be quotes, but that seems unnecessary

[hexed forge]

I could put a section that says

"Following text are notes from research team X, monitoring herd Y, etc, etc, etc

[fast forge]

But once again, why include it? Why are they then bothering to quote the researcher about a trivila detail? It feels like filler

[valid geyser]

One thing I do know about writing is you don’t want to tell information to the viewer/reader to many times

[fast forge]

I'm telling you, remove everything that isn't critical info

EVERYTHING

take what you have as an outline

[fast forge]

and cut it all away

Get as barebones as you can, and then add to it where you think it will help the tone or add context

You are treating this a bit like a novel, where you can get away with flowery language or unnecessary lines. In scientific literature, every sentence has a purpose

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/insanity-kiryu-kiryu-kazuma-yakuza-yakuza-5-gif-7033429113756081086

[lethal moat]

Show don’t tell and details around a situation work better than just describing what’s going on

[fast forge]

This ^^^

Especially when you have text accompanying video - let the video show what it does. The text only needs to tell us what the video doesn't

[hexed forge]

Alr I deleted some stuff

Is this good to stay?

[fast forge]

Once again, this bit here #isle-lore-theories message doesn't repeat anything from the video

[hexed forge]

Ey it explains it destroying the camera and it running away after the rex roar, which is shown in the video technically

But I see what you mean

Okay I think I might just scrap this entire script and work on a new one

[fast forge]

the video didn't show us that augustus ripped the camera away from the wall entirely, and the text confirms what the audience may have suspected, that the roar was from a rex

Also it namedrops Shirley

[fast forge]

That's how early drafts work, that's fine

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-out-rage-parks-and-rec-nick-offerman-ron-swanson-gif-17688925

[fast forge]

I'd say, start with an outline first. Delineate what info you want to be in the text portions, and what you want to show in the video. This outline can be very brief, as you will build upon it later

[hexed forge]

👍

[fast forge]

and remember that an outline is basically just notes to yourself, so you don't need any exposition for a reader

[lethal moat]

Totally forgot I can post my short story in the lorecord channel

It’s there now

[north sentinel]

I have a theory

What if instead of the isle

[lethal moat]

I will bury you

[north sentinel]

It was the freaksle

And instead of dinosaurs eating each other

[lethal moat]

<@&933486433342222376> This count as low effort trolling?

[north sentinel]

Why bro care

[lethal moat]

I genuinely try to get stuff done here

[valid geyser]

Also is that considered nsfw?.. wait let me read the rules a fifth time

[lethal moat]

And my last conversation with you showed how much you care, I frankly don’t think it’s worth the effort trying to tell you off

Thanks Thyler

There’s also the thing in isle discussion, but it’s buried already

[neon wolf]

eh. let him and it stay burried

[lethal moat]

👍

Appreciated

[neon wolf]

np. ty for the report

[hexed forge]

It was the what now

[lethal moat]

Don’t worry about it

[hexed forge]

oh, there has been some drama

[lethal moat]

Lore time

[hexed forge]

yes- no I gtg

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1048536975323451402/1238081418412953681/giffka.gif

[lethal moat]

When I get my PC put together, I should make a visual comparison of my ant nest to GUTS idea

[unborn knot]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-emo-gif-20706789

noooooooooo

[lethal moat]

Would stacked shipping containers make a good makeshift wall?

Like if a crane operator were to try to seal off the dockyard

[lethal moat]

The last holdout for evacuating personnel, protected by Dave, the forklift operator

[hexed forge]

Dave is the friend we need in life

[lethal moat]

Dave tragically died to raptors after spearing the alberto with the forklift

[hexed forge]

Damn

[lethal moat]

He is remembered as a martyr of the survivors of “the incident” TM (if something like that happened)

[hexed forge]

I would say that "the incident" is actually a chain of incidents that caused a major problem. No big "incident" just a chain of smaller ones that lead to AE not able to help themselves

[lethal moat]

I agree, however, I like to think as whatever event broke the fences as the incident, rather than “oh no, everything broke at the same time just so happens” the incident I refer to could just be mass evacuation or just everyone panicking because something big got out

[hexed forge]

Break out of where? The volcano facility

[lethal moat]

That’s the thought

Or something got into the facility

[hexed forge]

I don't think into

[lethal moat]

Imagine a neuro spino on another island that was just going back to the place it hatched because it remembers there being food there?

[hexed forge]

Oooo

That could be possible

[hexed forge]

But the broken fences on gateway are in a direction that would make it look like something broke out. Unless I am not remembering correctly

[acoustic osprey]

Private?

[hexed forge]

It's scrapped, making a new one

[lethal moat]

It’s hard to tell without debris around the breaks

[acoustic osprey]

Wow

[hexed forge]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

Depends on the age

Weather, amongst other things, can push away debris

[lethal moat]

Could just be buried under foliage

[acoustic osprey]

And/or any human or animal behaviour

[lethal moat]

Either way, hard to tell which direction whatever thing was going

[acoustic osprey]

At least, not with the one at the top of the map

You'd still be able to tell with foliage on top though
As they would be pretty large chunks

As we saw with the fence damage simulation from visual a few years back

[hexed forge]

And by the way there are broken fences in all directions from the volcano, so if something is breaking in.. would it make sense for multiple to break in? Or for multiple to break out. Which one makes sense more

[lethal moat]

One of the broken fences is at the top of a cliff right?

[hexed forge]

That one is removed

[lethal moat]

Damn

[acoustic osprey]

Removed? It's still there?

[hexed forge]

Unless there is an entire batch of neuro siblings...

[acoustic osprey]

Wait
Which cliff

Along the bridge?

[hexed forge]

Volcano

[lethal moat]

Above the volcano entrance

The big one

[hexed forge]

Yeah the volcano one is gone

[lethal moat]

That sucks

[acoustic osprey]

I know the one in the Plains north-ish is still there

Is that the one you're referring to?

[hexed forge]

No

[lethal moat]

No

[acoustic osprey]

Ah OK

[hexed forge]

The one above volcano bunker

[acoustic osprey]

Oh
Yeah
But they weren't broken

[lethal moat]

My reasoning was going to be that it’s easier to break a cliff wall from the side where you can stand, but that doesn’t apply anymore

[hexed forge]

Makes sense that it got removed since it wasn't really protecting anything

[hexed forge]

They were

[acoustic osprey]

Aye
Just looked cool from afar

[acoustic osprey]

Proof or it didn't happen

[hexed forge]

I ain't gonna go scrolling for a picture from 6 months ago..

I will try

[lethal moat]

The fact that it goes straight to/from the ocean is interesting though

[hexed forge]

And there is another broken fence path going north from the volcano.

[lethal moat]

Mhm

We should make projected Paths of Destruction

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey BROKEN!!!

Anyways ima now go to sleep

[lethal moat]

Peace out

[hexed forge]

If no one does it while I sleep then I will do it tmr after school

[lethal moat]

I should be getting my PC set up tomorrow, so I can do it as well

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-road-to-el-dorado-both-both-is-good-gif-8304204

[lethal moat]

Need to map out current fences and all broken spots in addition to human bases on a blank map of gateway

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

[acoustic osprey]

do note
when Don refers to this
he is referring to that Dalt's theory is close. But medicine was not the explicit reason for Strains- but are connected to them

[lethal moat]

Yeah

[tribal bobcat]

Acro is a dinosaur

[robust ether]

False.

[hexed forge]

It's a burger

[kindred bobcat]

What incident?

[maiden sundial]

Something must've happened for Æ to scramble leaving

[fast forge]

We had assumed that there was a big Jurassic Park-style event that led to the downfall of AE or Gateway, but recent comments from Don suggest it was probably a much more gradual process, or perhaps a series of events

[hexed forge]

Yeah we changed the theory

We now believe that it was more so a chain of events instead of one big one

Unless Dondi yet again confused us

[lethal moat]

I usually think of it as a bunch of things that lead it to the evacuation, wether or not it was a mass exodus is unknown, but when I refer to “the incident” I’m probably referring to either the last evacuation/extinction or whatever broke the fences, I should probably make more specific terminology

[hexed forge]

What CPU would be better than this one that was back in the 90s

A 804 would be better if im doing my research correctly, so Ima just put that.

[hexed forge]

mmm Still too bright

[lethal moat]

Lookin good

[hexed forge]

I think the characters might be too big

Or is it good?

[lethal moat]

Looks good to me

[nimble fractal]

It's fine

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

What would Ceratosaurus and Deinosuchus be in the HRS. 174. etc form?

CRT? DNS?

I just need the first part

[bold crater]

Possibly

[ionic sable]

I can send you the format I'm using if you want an accurate layout.

[hexed forge]

Send it please, it would be nice

[fast forge]

Lore Stuff

[hexed forge]

Dishwashing simulator...

Best game!

Good names for files or?

I like how its turning out.. but the hard part will be the actual video recording and the custom lore part...

Decided to do something different than the AUGUSTUS one which was an incident to AE infastructure

[hexed forge]

Whenever tiny or Isaac comes back I want you guys to check these 3

[fierce remnant]

anyone know why anytime i see any lore videos about the isle I always see this thing

anyone know what it is?

[hexed forge]

Thats gen 1

[fierce remnant]

whats that

[hexed forge]

In other words, that, is a tribal.

[fierce remnant]

Like a native tribe?

[hexed forge]

That thing is now scrapped btw, there is a different model for them.

[hexed forge]

No

[fierce remnant]

i also see these things

[hexed forge]

Genetically modified iirc, but I dont know all legacy lore. So I am not sure. But thats scrapped

[hexed forge]

TRINITY, not scrapped. Still in the game.

[fierce remnant]

is there anything that explains all of this

like is there a vid that u watched

[hexed forge]

The Trinity is the Humanoid figure of each strain.

[hexed forge]

I read a document made by the community that has everything we know

[fierce remnant]

can u show me it

[hexed forge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[fierce remnant]

thx I can finally understand whats going on

[fierce remnant]

where do u see thta in the doc

[hexed forge]

This is the trinity

[fierce remnant]

hmm

the lore of this game sounds cool but is so confusing

[hexed forge]

You will understand it the more you look into it

[fierce remnant]

im watching a yt vid on it rn

hopefuly ill understand

[hexed forge]

What video

[fierce remnant]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dncngJKIUmE&list=PLBQNEQPSW7ewkvlluLRQPKMUudsyzbsVD&index=3

[hexed forge]

Thats outdated

[fierce remnant]

idrk what to watch

[hexed forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrIu_rZOiJk&t=123s

Watch this one, made by @acoustic osprey

[fierce remnant]

ive alrdy seen this one

[fierce remnant]

it doesnt talk abt all that stuff

[hexed forge]

Yeah, no video on it yet. BUT, he is working on a video about it. That covers the trinity and a lot more. So I think you should wait.

[fierce remnant]

sounds good

[hexed forge]

Hopefully he finishes in a month...

[fierce remnant]

i just want a vid that covers all the lore, this vid was great tho

[hexed forge]

Soon

[ionic sable]

Sorry when I sent that I was still on my way home from work, but I'll put together the templates now.

[hexed forge]

👍

[ionic sable]

Alright here's the main screen.
Obviously the text needs to be redone for your needs, but whatever.

[fierce remnant]

Whaat ios that

[ionic sable]

Words n stuff

[hexed forge]

This is what I did

A lot of open space

But thats probably because mine is actually in video form, or idk.

[lethal moat]

We currently have a podcast, but it’s hard to encapsulate all lore since we don’t know it all, Lightclaw is working on another big video though, so that should be helpful

[ionic sable]

Yeah mine is in 4:3 and honestly the layout seems better suited for that.

But you could just extend the selection to the other end of the screen and maybe increase the font size to compensate.

[hexed forge]

You will not, and shall not, survival The Isle. You signed the Thousand Life contract. You stay there for a thousand lives. You SERVE, AE for a thousand lives. And what can you do about it? Nothing. Absolutely nothing, just sit in silence, and complete orders. Only the lord hears your cries for help.... if.. there even is one

INSANITY

[valid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-27567306

[patent ginkgo]

Lore?!

[valid geyser]

LORE?!

[hexed forge]

I just scrambled up a bunch of EIP info into 1 statement under 5 minutes.

[acoustic osprey]

Id make the lock logo a bit smaller

[grand sigil]

What is this

[lethal moat]

A video project he’a working on

[grand sigil]

Oh I just realized I can't escape you guys lol

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/you-say-anything-like-that-again-who-are-you-talking-to-watch-it-watch-your-mouth-rick-grimes-gif-2934815267209450529

[grand sigil]

ick rimes

honestly andrew lincoln should play dondi in the isle movie

he would make a great dondi

[lethal moat]

But what about Moist Critikal?

I think he’d do a good job

[grand sigil]

What are your guys' thoughts on how connected GUTS is by transport method
For example
Would the system contain a complete rail loop, or part rail and part walkways in some areas?

Also sorry for never being active here

Thanks

S tier mods

[lethal moat]

Thanks Lucky

[lethal moat]

Let me watch a short video on ant mounds before I make my comparison

Alright, it’s a bad comparison

I say there will be GUTS “highways” between larger bases with branches leading off them to smaller bases, kind of like what Vistech explained in that interview Lightclaw had

[grand sigil]

That's exactly what I had in mind
I just hope that'll all work out on the in-game map itself

I hope there won't be too many differences between the game and the lore due to limitations of games

It should work out

[lethal moat]

I’m hoping absolutely everything in game can be explained by lore, and it looks to be mostly that way so far, with the exception of the barrier around the island

[grand sigil]

They can probably just make the spiro-style map barrier invisible and call it a day

[lethal moat]

Someone is going to go out there and find out, especially when oceans are finished and saltwater mutations are available

[fast forge]

So here's a thought: We know the barrier isn't canon, but we also know that the animals don't leave for other reasons, right?

Two theories:

1. It's like Jurassic Park where the animals are engineered to be dependent on an element in their diet. In JP the animals couldn't synthesize lysine from other amino acids like we can, and required it to be synthetically added as a part of the diet.

2. The animals don't leave because the EIP's piloting them require the radio towers to work. You leave the island - you lose your brain. The flaw here is that natural-born offspring don't have EIP's as far as we know, and would thus be able to leave

[strange rapids]

But in the book they referenced escaped animals figured out to eat lysine rich soy fields

They were indeed escaping

I believe it was remarked about them acting like a flock of birds and attending to migrate

Although jp tlw as a book they figured it was just that they had a functional ecosystem and didn’t need to feel the urge to migrate. There’s holes in the

This * but it’s been a while since I read it

[fast forge]

Yes, the animals found a way around it in the book, this is just an example

[fast forge]

TBH I think my second theory is much more intriguing

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

Lore

[sly merlin]

God man. Lore, is just, LORE.

[patent ginkgo]

^

[hexed forge]

Hmm Im not sure

[grand sigil]

*Truck freak 🤓

[lethal moat]

shhhhhh

[hybrid wagon]

I think rump likes this meme

[fast forge]

[hexed forge]

Are you interested in a role for my video? Looking for actors

5 spaces left

If I cant get the second Juvi I can easily cut it out since its not necessary

[hexed forge]

In the AUGUSTUS video, did the person connect to a base on gateway and access the files through there?

Or?

[lethal moat]

It says external connection

[acoustic osprey]

we don't know how external the OLYMPUS user was

[hexed forge]

But where did the user connect to? Did they connect to the H4 facility?

[acoustic osprey]

was he accessing through an external device?
i.e. an OLYMPUS-level clearance pass, basically logging on the computer (physically) but using such pass to bypass the password sequence needed
or
He was connecting from OLYMPUS or OLYMPUS CC through, likely, LAN

[lethal moat]

It just says external connection

[acoustic osprey]

Yep
a H4 or the H4 computer

[hexed forge]

Noted, might use this information to further more advance my project.

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/8563626674af4a1d288a22dc7dc3246f
evident from this sequence

unsure through how specific this computer is

[hexed forge]

And the incident report file was saved in H4

[acoustic osprey]

there might be a connected server system within H4 that contains all local data