isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

which is a bit interesting?
At least, the dome hyper fence line that goes towards K15 doesn't really make much sense at the moment

it faces the dam

[hexed forge]

Ah

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/f6838b70d1e7b7feecad923ec26eb607
area here

https://gyazo.com/1b1b6e7de3569b96fb89d12ff4d1a066
area over here

[hexed forge]

Mm

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/fe5ed149f23183d94a7562c46341499c
you can't really have an area on the coastline?

as it would also go around the whole island, technically.

so I wonder where this section will be? In the interior of gateway

[hexed forge]

Mmmmmmmmmmm

[acoustic osprey]

I don't presume it'll connect to the swamps
As that blocks off Perimeter

as Perimeter has it's own natural and human-made barriers

stopping free entrance from north side of Gateway

[hexed forge]

What you said here, are you saying that the assets weren't allowed to go on the coast?

[acoustic osprey]

the two shown gyazo screenshots prior are of the fence-made segments/sectors

why have more fences if not at this area #isle-lore-theories message ?

if not to make another sector

[hexed forge]

🤔

[acoustic osprey]

however, no real other underground things to give us more clues

https://tenor.com/view/hondo-ohnaka-star-wars-prequels-the-clone-wars-pirate-gif-22116164

[hexed forge]

What I am seeing is that there is a "perimeter" fence (reference to jp) that goes around the island and basically makes a barrier that prevents the dinosaurs to reach the coast. That's what I'm seeing

[acoustic osprey]

which it doesn't do

you can just move a bit around

[hexed forge]

In the east area or the riverdelta area you are referring to?

[acoustic osprey]

riverdelta
or you can just go around the long way right around the volcano (which that part is a bit overkill for a normal dinosaur. But these aren't normal animals)

[hexed forge]

Well the way around the volcano is probably because its not finished. And the riverdelta area... I suspect some adjustments coming to the dam there. But time will tell

Anyways ima go sleep now

[acoustic osprey]

it's either this area closes off or continues
https://gyazo.com/aac94631c93afd0650fa826020ab39a0

[hexed forge]

Both

[fast forge]

perhaps they don't yet have a model yet for a 3-point connection between fences

Or perhaps more like this, using the cliff face as a fence

[meager junco]

Yay

Ty

[sterile spire]

I have stupid theory without proofs
V3 Map Dinos are genetically modified which caused them being more aggressive and less accurate looking right?
What if in Evrima maps dinosaurs are modified in same but better way which let em having more stable ecosystem, and having less aggressive beast behaviour?

[acoustic osprey]

The aspect of behaviour within dinosaurs in legacy was actually for a different reason

All dinosaurs were played/ controlled by their mind, their profile; aka. You, your steam profile, you the player.

In lore, your mind is your account.

Basically you were lore.

And because you are human, you have human tendencies, with 1000 lifes. How you act, in lore, would be different. More human

[sterile spire]

And Æ are humans but not players
Uhh what that lore is dogwater to me now

I already knew enough of it but animals being actual players breaking 4th wall ruins for me all interest in the isle lore

[acoustic osprey]

That is legacy lore

It's meta, a good reasoning to why things acted like they did, and was a neat way of putting people into lore

[sterile spire]

Tbh genetically modified dinosaurs being more aggressive after hypo fiasco fits more to me
Also Evrima branch is not releted to v3 map at all???

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, no connection sadly.
However, some ideas have stayed.

Such as the idea of human minds within dinosaurs. Which you might like. But it's nowhere near meta. We might have a few people in the community being brought as cameos, but nothing like we had in Legacy.
Alongside replicating humans (Gen1s and 2s) in terms of progressing the human climate. Alongside more backstory on AE's/Apollo's identity before bio-engineering humans and dinosaurs, such as food production and botany (they have several subsidiaries that would do "X" -> such as Apollo Pharmaceuticals North doing the pharmaceuticals. And for all we know, AE is the only Apollo subsidiary that is heavily linked with the bio-engineering of humans and dinosaurs. Presumably, AE might be the testing grounds for Apollo Products)

However such "hypo/hyper fiasco" seems like a legacy thing now.
From the information we have (For Evrima) it seems to be a lot less Jurassic Park rip-off of just big dino breaks out

more so.
More political and ethical aspects.

I mean.
Even if you remove the placing of a human consciousness into a dinosaur/humanoid creature and making them live 1000 lives.
The creation of dinosaurs, monstrous humanoids and humans is quite a... yeah ethical thing

[steel summit]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-horrors-beyond-our-comprehension-low-tier-god-mods-banned-gif-8530537273735940092

<@&933486433342222376>

[tribal bobcat]

This is a pachyrhinosaurus.. New to lore!

[fast forge]

you are new to lore, or pachyrhinosaurus is new to lore?

[tribal bobcat]

I am being goofy lol 😂

[fast forge]

ahhh, the secret third option

[tribal bobcat]

How did you know

[fast forge]

I'm a genius

[valid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/prehistoric-planet-quetzalcoatlus-pterosaur-pterodactyl-honk-gif-4331593376030760420

[lethal moat]

With the new gen 1 thing, I can totally add "Paint it Black" to my replicator playlist

[fast forge]

finals go okay so far?

[lethal moat]

Studying rn

[fast forge]

luck!

[lethal moat]

[tight summit]

dibble this week ?

[lethal moat]

https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/855527844670865438 No etas

[fast forge]

Rolling stones?

[lethal moat]

Yep

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-redford-jeremiah-johnson-nodding-yes-nod-of-approval-gif-21066931

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey This is facing the ocean, not the dam. Unless im missing something

I suspect some sort of facility here above this dam...

Outline of a fence?

[acoustic osprey]

(I meant to send a message yesterday)

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

Also yes, I believe this is actually an outline of a fence.. mmmmm

Got up close ingame

[acoustic osprey]

some of these lines were also monorail lines btw

[hexed forge]

Ah

[acoustic osprey]

however, basically all the fences follow human paths
so it's likely that isn't a fence

[hexed forge]

However, this is an odd place for a monorail to be in.

Unless it crosses the basin right there, then yeah

But instead its going towards this rocky cliff, forming a natural barrier.

Green is natural barrier and black is a fence.

I have sloppy drawing skills

[acoustic osprey]

in ST, that was near a monorail line that went around the bay

[hexed forge]

Oh was it? Damn

[acoustic osprey]

no, dam

[fast forge]

is this at the twin lakes north of the east dome?

[hexed forge]

Correct

[acoustic osprey]

it's part of the river that follow the river in Perm, right?

[hexed forge]

Right beside a base

[acoustic osprey]

ah yeah, that one.
Perm river flows down to that, goes down to funny delta

[hexed forge]

yes

I assume its possible for a fence to connect to this dam?

[acoustic osprey]

I've guessed potentially connecting to and fro the fence north west of NE. Plains

[hexed forge]

Yes, I am making a map of fence predictions

I am going to assume either A or B on this one.

A. A Fence follows this path down to the river.
B. The volcano is used as a natural barrier and the fence actually comes out of the south side of the volcano and goes down to the river.

@acoustic osprey What do you think?

I just saw you log on The Isle

Im on Shirley's kingdom if you want to explore some fences.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/blargington-gif-16628615555047893597

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/lock-in-gif-4969870269742545443

[acoustic osprey]

I can imagine it being A

easily on how easily it could connect with the fence at NE Plains

[hexed forge]

Can it tho? On my map I just put a gate and the fence extending into the rock.

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/1ad6dc544a9a4777cba8c718929519f5
technically this part is a natural border

but it's awkward, because you can still go around it

[hexed forge]

Hmmm, Its likely unfinished then.

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, I can't see much more new fences being placed.
Seeing as basically almost all of the new ones this hotfix were basically ready months prior underground (with their fence posts)

there only being two cases of that now in this hotfix
next to the dome and at the delta (which is a new one iirc)

[hexed forge]

I assume you are going to referr to the stream, HOWEVER.

[acoustic osprey]

what do you mean

[hexed forge]

In the stream the fence was only finished up to here, it wasnt entirely complete.

[acoustic osprey]

no

i'm referring to going on spec cam in-game

[hexed forge]

oh

[hexed forge]

With this msg I was referring to this btw #isle-lore-theories message

[acoustic osprey]

in which #isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

Thought you were referencing the Dondi stream

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-house-house-gif-11916099077674228393

no.
I barely remember that stream (I didn't get to watch it)

[hexed forge]

Oh

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-confusion-cat-white-cat-im-confusion-gif-16828447

[acoustic osprey]

you could see the fence posts underground/below the map

[hexed forge]

Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed forge]

yay

[fast forge]

this doesn't meant they don't have more planned, they may have even changed how they choose to prep for upcoming map changes

[hexed forge]

Thats why Im confused

[acoustic osprey]

it'd be far more long term planned/they don't know what more to add

going off that we've seen new ones (one) underground this hotfix
which would indicate some plan is there, but some aspects are not finalised

[hexed forge]

Also a neat mention is that... The fence post quite literally is in the ocean... Potentially leading into the ocean?

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-what-are-you-doing-in-my-swamp-swamp-gif-22158872

[hexed forge]

Potentially stopping right there, in order to prevent any dinosaurs to go around the fence.

[acoustic osprey]

it's probably just doing a V3 or The Wall from A Song of Ice and Fire, going out into the water
that post being the end of the fence line

[fast forge]

you can easily move assets around in map editing software, that may have been a random piece that got left there or is marking a location for something in the future

[hexed forge]

If thats the end the assets could easily go around it.

[acoustic osprey]

it's the same marking we've seen for the new fences added this hotfix prior to this hotfix in-game

[hexed forge]

Also on V3 that fence was much more far out into the water, so Im going to assume this one in evrima hasnt stopped at that position.

[acoustic osprey]

hence why from what I said, from yesterday, about the placement of that fence is weird.
I don't believe it's keeping anything from getting to the exterior of Gateway (the shore line outside the fence-made sectors)

I don't believe they want to make this a sector, basically
https://gyazo.com/86fe7bc65c7e9c14e876f9c238e686a4?token=fbe2fd4ed0222189ad19e4a7aa8cb4c0

[hexed forge]

Gyazo aint loading

Nvm

[acoustic osprey]

you have no faith

https://tenor.com/view/cooper-howard-fallout-thumbs-up-fallout-tv-vault-tec-gif-6009891785160118102

[hexed forge]

That area is 100% not a sector for dinosaurs.

[fast forge]

"outside the fence" so to speak?

[hexed forge]

All you gotta do is look at the fence position to see why that area is def not a dino sector.

[fast forge]

also this might help to see where animal movement may have been restricted

[acoustic osprey]

which is why it doesn't help for it going out to the beach
than rather in to the dam

[hexed forge]

It could work both ways. Also the dam in riverdelta can be jumped on top of by dinosaurs.

[acoustic osprey]

it's the fence model without the top fence
I don't presume the model is exactly final yet

[hexed forge]

Ah

But then i also believe that the swamp is one of the only beaches that are allowed to have dinosaurs to roam on, same case could be with the riverdelta shore.

[fast forge]

where exactly is this fence off the coast underwater?

[hexed forge]

Entire area right here basically could be accessible by dinosaurs.

[hexed forge]

East of the riverdelta Dam

[fast forge]

So like the fences do this?

presumably?

[hexed forge]

Also they put the fence point in the same patch as the release of the aquatic fence... Possibilities or coincidence ?

[hexed forge]

Correct

Progress so far

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey

[fast forge]

So if almost all of the K15 jungle is "outside the fence" then perhaps that is designated for human buildings? Perhaps some facility in this very sheltered little cove?

[hexed forge]

We can see 2 dinosaur accessible sectors forming, potentially 3 if I can make my mind up with the northern jungle

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[fast forge]

perhaps

[hexed forge]

There could be an aquatic fence here

[fast forge]

where is that

[hexed forge]

Riverdelta, with the fencepoint

Boom, Final.

I made an adjustment to the northern jungle part, mainly because of the current fence ingame right now. The one leading out of the GUTS enterance. The fence is facing in a position that would make it unlikely for a Dinosaur sector to be on the other side. The rest is self explanotory. That entire prediction is ofc made only IFFFF northern jungle is even a dinosaur sector. But I am going to assume that it is. I might be wrong.

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-jurassic-gif-7496067

[fast forge]

I wonder if most of the aboveground human habitation is along the coast

and then GUTS facilities covering much of the center

[hexed forge]

Or high up surrounded by natural barriers

For example I12

[fast forge]

I12 might just be more of an outpost

[hexed forge]

I mean, most of the bases are.

[fast forge]

I just mean in the sense that we have these dinosaur zones and human zones

[hexed forge]

Ah

[fast forge]

C14 - is that within the NE Plains paddock?

[hexed forge]

Then it seems to be the case, most human structures seem to be on the coast or near water sources.

[hexed forge]

Nope, outside of it.

[fast forge]

Same with K15, it's separated from river delta by the cliffs

[hexed forge]

Si

[fast forge]

So... the only truly contained area that we know of is NE Plains, right? East Plains could connect to the west through to the river delta and everything else

oh nvm I wasn't see the link of fences north of east dome, yeah East Plains would also be contained

[hexed forge]

Si

[fast forge]

Are there NO fences on the west part of the map?

I know there are two gates between perimeter and river delta

[hexed forge]

None

But judging by the names of those areas... They seem to be human based

[lethal moat]

Other than small ones at "h4", no

[acoustic osprey]

no

[acoustic osprey]

h6....

[hexed forge]

Scroll down!- Wait no scroll up!

[acoustic osprey]

no. It misses C14

[hexed forge]

I know

I answered it already

[acoustic osprey]

no

[fast forge]

Initially I had assumed those fences would come with future updates (and they may)

[hexed forge]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

no

[acoustic osprey]

what fences in that area?

[acoustic osprey]

no

[fast forge]

But I did notice that the diablo migration path works within the limit of the fences

[hexed forge]

A small fence outside of H5/6

[hexed forge]

WDYM NO!

[acoustic osprey]

where

[lethal moat]

Might be remembering a difference base, but the same as the ones near all the bases

[hexed forge]

East enterance into the base

Best I could give

[acoustic osprey]

but all the resupply points have fences around them

[hexed forge]

Yes

So technically no fences in Tiny's context

[fast forge]

resupply points?

[hexed forge]

The bases

[acoustic osprey]

resupply points

[fast forge]

I know to what he is referring, just didn't recognize this particular term

[hexed forge]

What do you think Isaac?

[acoustic osprey]

that is how Don referred to them

why do it go like this

[hexed forge]

I explained it under the image

[fast forge]

That kinda fits with the idea I was having here:
#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

The direction the GUTS fence is facing does not make sense IFFF the sector even is a dinosaur sector(Northern jungle)

So I would be incorrect if its not a dinosaur sector

[hexed forge]

And take a look at this too

[fast forge]

I agree this part is kinda weird, but I also get what cerato means about the fence facing the wrong way

[hexed forge]

Its either A, northern jungle isnt a dinosaur sector and Im wrong about my fence placement prediction, or B, Northern jungle is a dinosaur sector and my fence prediction could be correct. Doesnt have to be 100% correct on the placement, might be much more different.

Hell it could be like a hallway type that we see between the East plains sector and NE plains.

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/fallout-fallout-tv-show-ghoul-fallout-ghoul-looking-confused-gif-16347523754289386654

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-jurassic-gif-7496067

[fast forge]

I would like to see more hallways

[hexed forge]

[fast forge]

I heard Don is around, look busy!

https://tenor.com/view/me-pretending-to-be-busy-at-work-working-gif-15909965

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/work-gif-9070352192415256659

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/busy-work-looking-busy-busy-pretending-writing-gif-5225423

[pseudo fable]

Don't mind me.

[fast forge]

I'm just being silly

[lofty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-jake-the-dog-butt-bongo-booty-dance-gif-22273436

Just learning the drums hahaha

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-krusty-the-clown-wth-what-the-hell-was-that-confused-gif-4720874

[lofty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/card-wars-adventure-time-jake-the-dog-gif-27533532 I have many unhinged jake gifs at my disposal

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-jake-jake-the-dog-hehe-gif-17879378

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bXzyV.gif

https://tenor.com/bKv48.gif

(Admittedly I have not seen it.)

[lofty swallow]

What, Adventure Time?

[pseudo fable]

Yes.

[fast forge]

it was a show that boosted a number of animation careers

[lofty swallow]

oh my goodness, dude it's 10 seasons of.. I don't know it's insane, like it's the weridest, funniest, story.. and at the core of it all is an actual story

[spiral elbow]

Best show

[fast forge]

I came to it late, as an adult, but it was quite good

[lofty swallow]

I'm legit making an animation based on it right now

[fast forge]

I meant more like Rebecca Sugar going off to do Steven Universe, etc.

but if it inspired you that's awesome!

[lofty swallow]

Ah right, but yeah love how Finn just uses "math" as a word to describe things that are cool

"Is that a demon blood oath sword, that's mathematical!"

[umbral patrol]

How dare you not talk about lore in here

[lethal moat]

It's finals week, no thinking for me

[urban salmon]

Final?

[lethal moat]

Exams

[umbral patrol]

Stinky college

[valid geyser]

Errrm! This doesn’t seem like lore talk!1!1!1!

[umbral patrol]

[lethal moat]

Lore talk is happening in the lore server

[valid geyser]

That place scares me.

[umbral patrol]

It’s a whole other universe of sus

The back rooms made manifest

[valid geyser]

Rumple.
You are one of the few in that server who i don’t fear.

[umbral patrol]

you should

[umbral patrol]

I adopted a cat rump

[lethal moat]

My friends frequently compare me to an orange cat

[umbral patrol]

Accurate

[valid geyser]

No wonder I don’t fear you.
All orange cats share one microscopic piece of a brain.

[umbral patrol]

Hive mind

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/realize-whoa-mindblown-wtf-albino-gif-5049830

[pale marsh]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859883104747520000/1095522784563691520/B363A88A-3776-47ED-BD29-2E6CF245F165.gif

[lofty swallow]

guys

LOOK IT'S LORE #videos-and-streams message

[lethal moat]

Dear god

[acoustic osprey]

Why

[urban salmon]

Why she talk with blue backpack

[steel summit]

schizophrenia

[last hazel]

Hey- did something broke in or..

[patent ginkgo]

Likely

(It was me)

[lethal moat]

I told you to lay off the cheese puffs

[patent ginkgo]

noooOOOOO

[lethal moat]

There’s three other spots with broken fences as well

[last hazel]

this was like around North

[lethal moat]

Yep, there’s a decently straight line from the bunker entrance through 4 fences to the ocean

[fast forge]

Matriarch was headed for the ocean

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-avengers-marvel-jeremy-renner-clint-barton-hawkeye-gif-17148870

[fast forge]

she wanted to swim free and become one with the whales

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dory-pixar-finding-nemo-i-can-speak-whale-fish-gif-15725317

[fast forge]

she can, once she's eaten a few

[silent vault]

Ok

[lethal moat]

[signal pivot]

Good

[valid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/prehistoric-planet-season-2-dinosaur-pterosaur-t-rex-gif-14013559383979074699

[signal pivot]

What I do

[meager junco]

Everything

https://tenor.com/view/sipping-joe-goldberg-penn-badgley-you-consuming-gif-13176688856893985792

[patent ginkgo]

Made amazing art

[signal pivot]

OH I meant like “that’s what I do” in response to the gif. Like i am the quetz being scary

I need to draw more >:7

[hexed forge]

Broke out

[meager junco]

You really do slips 30$ for Rex art

[valid geyser]

Foolish of you to think im not the quetz.

[fallow harbor]

i wish the females iddnt get hairs but oh well

[patent ginkgo]

Loren’t

[signal pivot]

Is there a lore reason why dilo hair is pink

Also I disagree female hair awesome

[patent ginkgo]

It’s a bug

[signal pivot]

The majesty of a woman with a beard

But also good I don’t like the pink hair

[fallow harbor]

why'

[patent ginkgo]

Because

[fallow harbor]

DUDE

i thought this was isle disccsion

holy bruh

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

You were surrounded by lore people, you should have realized 🫵

[unborn knot]

Run while you can

[lethal moat]

There is no escape

[valid geyser]

While you still have time, run.

[lethal moat]

In my defense, lorecord is better than it used to be

[valid geyser]

..
Still scared of the place..

[fast forge]

isle dissection?

yeah that's us

[hexed forge]

Perhaps

Anddd- nvm, Just checked general chat

[lethal moat]

In my defense, I thought it would mac out at 20 people

[hexed forge]

Anyways thoughts on fence predictions?

[lethal moat]

Akright, why do you think the fences will go where they go?

[hexed forge]

East plains I believe is self explanotary, but the northern jungle part is the interesting part. I believe the first fence will connect to the Dam because it seems like that fence is meant to be like a "Perimeter" fence around the island, so it only makes sense if it keeps on going. The GUTS enterance is weird, it depends on whether northern jungle is a dino sector or not. If it is a dino sector, then the structure will have to be something like that. Or it could be in the "hallway" form that can be seen between NE and east. It has to be like that because of the fence that comes out of the GUTS enterance, its facing a direction that makes it unlikely for there to be a dino sector on the other side. And to make it a dino sector, you gotta make another fence.

[lethal moat]

👍

Looks good

[hexed forge]

I wanted to expand it more to make it an actual sector down in the Northern jungle, but there is just not enough information to make predictions on the fences

[hexed forge]

And also have you seen the fencepoint leading into the ocean at riverdelta?

[lethal moat]

mhm

[hexed forge]

[median shuttle]

I may have figured out where the ports gonna be

my guess is between the east plains and ne plains at the small bay where the watchtower sits

[hexed forge]

That's one of our theories too

[fast forge]

it makes sense, the fence hallway kinda makes a safe passage from the volcano GUTS entrance to the coast at that point

[acoustic osprey]

Vis, although a few years back, hinted at several ports existing

[acoustic osprey]

If that's the one that is near the dome, where the new fences will be

I can certainly imagine it as a smaller port

[fast forge]

This has kinda been my theory for a bit, and I think most of the major aboveground facilities will be along the coast

[hexed forge]

Not that one

Here

[acoustic osprey]

Yes that one

[hexed forge]

Oh my god I cant remove this gif from my favorites.... Its like it actually doesnt want to go to tartarus lmfao. Welp I guess it stays

ITS NOT LETTING ME REMOVE IT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[acoustic osprey]

you cannot escape tartarus.

[lofty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/josefs-gifs-egg-in-me-adventure-time-at-jake-gif-9318372326949499960

replicator making deinosaurs:

[icy onyx]

Magyarosaurus

[blissful rock]

can you send it real quick i want to favourite it

[hexed forge]

It's not loading on my phone, maybe Isaac has it

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979068369724645506/1176256833690816683/IWPiXWTC.gif?ex=656e358a&is=655bc08a&hm=bf63694a4f49f4036a4648121c29335a21d7f17f0cf8676c8d0a4598fb7bb4d2&

Done

[blissful rock]

thank you kind sir

[lethal moat]

I think I found a decent real life comparison to Apollo Engineering's work

There used to be a scientist called Fritz Haber, he invented the fertilizer that allows 3/4 of the current world to eat, that being said he also invented mustard gas, zyklon b, and the gunpowder subsite the germans used in ww1

He earned the nobel prize, and everyone hated him despite that

[lethal moat]

Here's the thing

Haber didn't regret what he did, and he didn't live long enough to see the consequences of Zyklon B, he was patriotic and wanted to serve his country, so he made weapons

AE is doing what they think they need to to help their world

I think it's a good enough comparison

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bZ1p0.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-vs-zeus-gif-27434871

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-juice-cry-cat-kitten-tears-gif-15751834

[lethal moat]

Lets start theorizing about the individual characters, the scientists in the story
I bet the person who made troodon really (or likes) liked punk rock

[acoustic osprey]

honestly I would love to know the lore behind the videos

like the OLYMPUS user in the Augustus video

or the guy who filed the ERRANT-291 report

or the why behind the why of sending the Dibble Trailcam footage (which lead to it being corrupted)

[hexed forge]

F5

[acoustic osprey]

will be answered soon

[hexed forge]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
yay

[hexed forge]

#isle-lore-theories message

So is AE a good company or not

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
they don't need to be good

Especially since Rump is referring to AE making good to help their world

look at Apple, and just many bigger companies, pushing their idea for their perfect world by their products

[hexed forge]

So they are not evil or good

[acoustic osprey]

do you need to classify morality as a binary function?

does AE live in a Tolkien/old pop fantasy world of a clear and split division of good and bad?

[hexed forge]

Wdym

[acoustic osprey]

AE can be in a far more grey area in their saturation of ethics

[hexed forge]

Hmm

Well. I don't know anymore

It's weird to think of AE being in another world where for example torturing someone is good because it helps with research.

Just an example

[acoustic osprey]

you're presuming it's torture

how can this ethical torture be torture if they knew what they were signing up for?

is torture still torture if you consent to such?

[acoustic osprey]

they still know what they've signed up for

[hexed forge]

They did not think through it tho then, also didn't AE hire people who already have nothing left in their life?

[acoustic osprey]

also didn't AE hire people who already have nothing left in their life?
nothing on that yet

[hexed forge]

Damn, I thought reacted to that idea a couple days ago

Well, almost a week ago I think

Nvm

He just called that idea unethical and evil

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
and this as well

[robust ether]

so no sympathetic monsters

[acoustic osprey]

apparently Gen1s are seen as weapons
no empathy for them apparently

[robust ether]

Gaah I read it I know

this truly is a day

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[steel summit]

so i've been reading the things further up, specifically the "Gen 1 are weapons" parts, now that is certainly very special

and that brings even more questions as to how gen 1 gameplay and their gameplay loop might function

[steel summit]

could be that you just forget the previous life once you die and get put into a new one

[fallow harbor]

so they are just being fed false hope ?

[fast forge]

We don't know. I'm now starting to think it's just like a computer file. Perhaps a scientist downloads their brain onto a computer. That "file" is then copy/pasted into new replications as they are created. There is no indication that those replications are then saved over the original file - maybe the EIP file is never overwritten? We don't know

[fast forge]

We don't even know if EIP's are even really people. It's a "profile". Perhaps it's not a whole human mind, but just an outline of one. A shadow.

AND we don't even know if that person just keeps on living after their mind is used as a template for an EIP

Hypothetically "Dr. Rumple" could make an EIP copy of himself, and then use that EIP for research in his lifetime

OR "Dr Rumple" makes an EIP copy of himself, puts that EIP into a Gen 2 body for himself, and that is the new Dr Rumple, being "overwritten" just like how we all live our lives. But then the EIP copy is still used for research

When asked if AE has discovered functional immortality, this was the response

[solemn vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-tf2-soldier-my-dear-god-dear-god-gif-16659739

[lethal moat]

[fast forge]

I'm sorry, but you are now the default doctor

[lethal moat]

Dammit Crow

Or cerato

[patent ginkgo]

Docktor

[lethal moat]

Yes, make him a doctor

[fast forge]

Dr Rumple is just The Isle's version of Dr Bright

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/angers-bingo-cat-angry-bashing-table-smash-gif-17090454

[fast forge]

SCP-963 is basically just EIP's

[sterile spire]

Uhhh i doubt

Like any other corporation
Money and new researches

[lethal moat]

And if it benefits the world at that cost?

[sterile spire]

To improve world somewhat yeaghh but mainly for military and army for example

Super humans

[lethal moat]

We know AE isn't military focused

[sterile spire]

Yes but their researches might used like that

[lethal moat]

Things can be used a lot of different ways, I feel the intent is what matters most to the creator

[sterile spire]

At least in legacy
AE were trying to create animal what would quickly adapt to various conditions

[lethal moat]

Matriarch my beloved

[sterile spire]

And hypos, neuros
Its them testing genetic upgrades on dinosaurs

And then on humans

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message This is about as close as I've gotten I think

[sterile spire]

Wdym

[sterile spire]

"it died not out of starvation.."

[lethal moat]

Closest to why AE does what they do

[lethal moat]

Tapwing stuff and all that is very fun

[sterile spire]

It got killed by first hypo colossal

That dude was like ten sizes of one we know

[lethal moat]

There were several in tapwing's art, one of which made it to the ocean

[valid geyser]

Go back!! Let’s restart evolution starting from the dinosaurs!!
(Joke. I’m joking.)

[sterile spire]

LMAO

More like
"Narghh mammals suck dude! Lets be dinosaurs instead!"

Poor dinosaur species in legacy tho

They had to face hypos and other mutants which lead em almost to extinction

Some species like anky went extinct and most of juvenile survived specimens were genetically upgraded

[valid geyser]

I mean look what mammals did, got to keep the species from evolving good brains somehow

[sterile spire]

Becoming less of an actual animal they were and becoming more aggressive

[lethal moat]

Hypers die insanely quickly, any mutations done would probably be the result of the replicator making changes to ensure it doesn't happen again

Maybe strains were made to simulate catastrophes for the replicator to learn from

[sterile spire]

Magnas helped

[lethal moat]

Stinky

[sterile spire]

What happened to magnas later tho
I feel like they were genetically " programmed" to die after some time period

And how did they even were able to handle em
Magna rex is huge but hypo is a lot more aggressive beast with surely a lot more strength

Because it's literally hypo

[lethal moat]

Magnas are no longer canon so I just shunt them to the back of my mind when thinking about Evrima

[sterile spire]

Legacy is not canon to evrima at all

[lethal moat]

I know

[sterile spire]

So it doesn't matter

[lethal moat]

But things are returning

Magnas not being one of them

[sterile spire]

Oh

I want v3 to be canon in evrima bc there is just too much of stuff left behind

[lethal moat]

Would love to see some remade legacy maps

[sterile spire]

V3 feels like aftermath island
Evrima feels like a fresh start with just better ecosystem and dinosaurs

[lethal moat]

That's basically what it is

[sterile spire]

Yeagh

What if evrima dinosaurs were "created" and placed in by humans

[lethal moat]

Yep

[sterile spire]

Oh lmao

[lethal moat]

Made by the replicator and put on the island

[sterile spire]

That makes even more sense if we bring back v3

[valid geyser]

Random topic change, but this does make me curious

The fact it’s so close and that it just needs to have words altered or added..
Dammit Rumple. Now im going to be theorising. You’re turning me into some lore creature

[sterile spire]

I like hypos and other creepy unsettling stuff because
Imagine you're having life of a animal (hunting, escaping from predator etc) and then a god damn generically modified abomination just ruins everything

[lethal moat]

[lethal moat]

Hyper rex redesign go brrrrr

[sterile spire]

Yeah ive seen it
Its fire

[lethal moat]

They're all genetically modified abominations

[sterile spire]

Tbh true but hypos are just monsters

Regular dinosaurs are still more of a animal capable of creating ecosystem

[lethal moat]

Hypers are tortured creatures I feel, no choice but to kill and die

And the fact that they probably have human conciousness is fun

[sterile spire]

They just exist
They have nothing to do but always have to eat

And being forced to be aggressive

[lethal moat]

mhm

[valid geyser]

Wait huh?
Did I miss something.

[lethal moat]

EIPs

[sterile spire]

Its legacy thing

Which i dont like

[lethal moat]

EIPs are confirmed for Evrima

[valid geyser]

Ohh.

[sterile spire]

Wait what eip is

[lethal moat]

Human conciousness in dinosaur body

[patent ginkgo]

Embryonic intelligence profile

[sterile spire]

Like in every dinosaur?

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[sterile spire]

If every
I dont like it really lmao

Its really goofy

[lethal moat]

The idea is that the player is the EIP

[sterile spire]

I know but there is no way for human to adapt to this and survive

Even if they accept their fate
They all would just die

[lethal moat]

That's why they're reborn via the replicator

[sterile spire]

Gosh

Thats horrible LOL

[patent ginkgo]

1000 life contract

[lethal moat]

It's not great

[sterile spire]

Eip is still not really making sense
There are many of huge plot holes

For example neuro spino being able to control "low intelligence" animals while all of em are eips

[lethal moat]

We haven't heard of anything with neuros abilities in Evrima, but that was through controlling the electric signals in the brain I believe

[sterile spire]

What if human degradating in dinosaur body bc of how its built and by the time especially after many many years you might actually become a grass eating cow or predator

[lethal moat]

That's a possibility

[valid geyser]

Replicator messes up and makes you into a deer
Uh oh!

[sterile spire]

Thats almost a fact

You cant escape that

[lethal moat]

Unless there's an end to the cycle before you reach that point

[sterile spire]

Why pteras cant migrate and fly away from island

Dont tell me we also have ark barriers

[lethal moat]

The barriers aren't lore relevant apparenty, let me find a dondi quote rq

[sterile spire]

If thats true i might like eips

[patent ginkgo]

Iirc dinos produced via nesting aren’t eips

[sterile spire]

Bc its horror
Its terrifying

[lethal moat]

I'd guess that's probably right

[sterile spire]

Probably all or most of eips forgot their human nature

[patent ginkgo]

Y’know Don, you could tell us rn…

[valid geyser]

Different random note, I’d imagine as a dinosaur you can’t do nearly as much damage to nature as humanity did (assuming something like climate change is what caused AE to want to “recreate” or “reform” the world in some manner)

[lethal moat]

Eh, maybe

[sterile spire]

You're literal animal

[valid geyser]

Dinosaurs don’t got them fancy thumbs..

[sterile spire]

Not humanity who messes up own earth every day

[lethal moat]

I'm just saying, that might not be the goal, it's true, but that might not be what they're aiming for

[valid geyser]

Likely not, but still some interesting bonus

[hexed forge]

Dr. Rumple how were the troodon tests

[lethal moat]

Not a clue

[pale marsh]

Ok
So

If
In lore
No island has dinos, gen1 and gen2 at once?

Does that refer to creating these things or just
All 3 do not coexist at any point in the lore
And this a case of gameplay doesn't equal lore

[lethal moat]

Specifically talking about the islands

Don:
"There is no island that has Gen 1s, Gen 2s, dinosaurs and standard functional human beings on it inside of the story. It does not exist. It has not happened. If it does happen, I've certainly have no written it yet
So you may get a game that has all of that, there is no melting pot of AE's ideas where all of them get shoved into the same thing
So while the gameplay is being supported, it's not just 'oh hey here's an island, it has all of these things on it' it doesn't work like that.

No. The game is not 'non-canonical', it's more so you're gonna get a lens to see various chunks of islands and stories that get told"

[pale marsh]

Mkay

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 vs gen 2 cage match when

Coughing baby vs princess the pitbull

[fast forge]

So restart evolution by starting 95% of the way through?

Dinosaurs are pretty late in the evolution of life on earth

[valid geyser]

Goop too far

[valid geyser]

Don’t wanna be primordial soup

[lethal moat]

Ae turning me into a weird looking toob with teeth:

https://tenor.com/view/moon-knight-marvel-disney-plus-moving-the-sky-stars-in-the-sky-gif-25406683

[fast forge]

there was a lot of stuff in between 'primordial soup' and dinosaurs too

[valid geyser]

AA.

No what is this.

[fast forge]

it's a bug

[valid geyser]

What embed failure!1!1!

[fast forge]

like literally just an aquatic arthropod

[lethal moat]

?

[valid geyser]

[fast forge]

I think he was referring to himself

[lethal moat]

Only one more exam, then I can get back to loring part time

[valid geyser]

Either way, dinosaurs would be easier to monetise as “ah look cool dinosaur” than…
Cambrian creatures…

[valid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[fast forge]

Are we monetizing them? Is this Jurassic Park?

[valid geyser]

I

Meant advertise
Whatever tomato tomato

[lethal moat]

Unknown

[fast forge]

chomayto tomahdo

[pseudo fable]

Sometimes. And no.

[patent ginkgo]

Ooh

[pseudo fable]

I have an idea for a "theme park" sort of tribute but it would very much not be what you saw in JP.

And also it sits on the shelf because it would be hard to pull off.

It sits in the "Could be good" pile.

[lethal moat]

Interesting

While you're here, I have a quick question

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/7vEJ.gif

[lethal moat]

What do you think of this? #isle-lore-theories message

[young viper]

Please, dont ever change collossus design

i love that

[fast forge]

oh, I wasn't serious with this

[patent ginkgo]

Well it payed off

And now we are brought just a tiny bit closer to the “why dinosaurs” answer

Well actually, knowing that they’re monetized/used to make money is really impactful

[signal pivot]

I think that is a marella!

I have a plush of this thing

Trilobites and such fascinate me because idk.. they predate everything and look cool

They also personally serve as inspiration for monster design (destroyah from the heisei/godzilla series is based off of these)

[pseudo fable]

I was.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[patent ginkgo]

The Don is always serious (we must over analyze everything he says to make talking with us a chore)

[fast forge]

So some monetization of dinosaurs, gotcha

[patent ginkgo]

Which implies that they’re not that secretive of a project

[valid geyser]

To be fair, if they don’t force people into being an EIP, they gotta advertise it somehow so people know

[pale marsh]

Regulated, monetized tours of certain "safe for the public" facilities 👁️👁️

[fast forge]

Well Don has mentioned multiple times that there is a timeline of events, so perhaps word got out eventually and then they started to monetize them

It's entirely possible they were a big secret for most of AE's history

[lethal moat]

Or they’re using their technology developed for the dinosaurs to make money

I can imagine artificial wombs could be incredibly popular

[valid geyser]

Or some parts are advertised, some remain hidden, advertise the good bits, hide the stuff people may question (gen 1.. hypers.. strains in general)

[lethal moat]

You can make money off of something without anyone knowing about it, ask lockheed martin

[fast forge]

Well the public knowing, and anyone outside AE knowing are two very different security levels

[lethal moat]

Think military technology, people can know what AE does without knowing how that’s done, like the wizardry behind stealth fighters

[valid geyser]

Advertise parts that make it seem like “wow!! They’re truly here and doing only good!”
A thousand lives! Oh goodness me! Dinosaurs!
Hide how.

[lethal moat]

I feel like that’s too much

[pseudo fable]

[valid geyser]

Either way, I feel like they’d hide the fact that there’s strains and stuff like that to the public, if the public or anyone outside of AE knew they were making things like hyper it’d probably cause a…
Uh..
Not lovely response from people (but honestly what can they do about it )

[lethal moat]

I think it’s closer to we will pay you this much, here’s all the ways you could die, we can’t tell you more until you sign this nda

[fast forge]

I'm still wondering how you monetize dinosaurs, outside of a zoo concept. Pets for rich people? Model organisms for medicine/research? Aside from strains, I don't think they'd be great for military use...

[patent ginkgo]

de-extinction tech perhaps

[valid geyser]

Fair, but do you think there’s a possibility they advertise the job offering itself? If so how

[fast forge]

There's NO money in de-extinction, lemme tell you that

that costs money

[valid geyser]

I need to stop changing how I word sentences mid-sentence and never go back to fixing words.

[lethal moat]

Actually wait, i just had a thought

[fast forge]

then again I know so little about the outside world, it's hard to speculate

[lethal moat]

There’s a hunting lodge right?

[valid geyser]

[patent ginkgo]

ah

[acoustic osprey]

Note
It must be something partial

The maybe sadly doesn't give good context clues on what the "maybe" could be

[patent ginkgo]

soooo rich people?

[lethal moat]

Large game hinting with dinosaurs for the ultra rich

[acoustic osprey]

TheHunter: Real

[acoustic osprey]

Would fit the sometimes category

[fast forge]

TBH I could see how AE tech in general could make a lot of money in medicine, but the dinosaurs themselves? I dunno

[acoustic osprey]

Gotta make some money with the rnd

[fast forge]

I suppose if you have a novel manufactured organism, you could very easily do targeted research (i.e. animals tailor-suited for a specific research goal)

[acoustic osprey]

To be fair
We still need to find out what the necessary part is in 'why dino'

If the unfortunate is stuff like partially using them as hunting game, or akin to such

[valid geyser]

I wonder that once we find out the necessary part if lore is gonna click together or shatter everything theorised

[patent ginkgo]

i have a feeling that they had a purpose, but dont have that much of a purpose anymore, or at least not one that means they need to be dinosaurs

[fast forge]

I feel like there's a lot of missing pieces, and there isn't going to be one big reveal

[acoustic osprey]

I'm gonna say the latter
Lol

[acoustic osprey]

Did it have to take them 60+ species with several several different phenotypes and the rest to find this out though?

[lethal moat]

A little bit of both is my idea

[acoustic osprey]

Sounds a bit anticlimactic for reasoning of why dino

[patent ginkgo]

i wish don would just tell us

[valid geyser]

Don just a tiny clue

.. no wait he’ll just confuse us more

I take it back.

[patent ginkgo]

it all still seems to me like theyre trying to build an ecosystem in which populations can sustain themselves

[lethal moat]

I like confusion, give it to me

[fast forge]

populations from vastly different eras?

[patent ginkgo]

apparently

[fast forge]

and why build an ecosystem from scratch instead of just using extant or recently extinct organisms?

[patent ginkgo]

but it doesnt have anything to do with why dinosaurs

[fast forge]

yes

[patent ginkgo]

it wouldnt have anything to do with climate/atmospheric CO2 levels, would it?

[fast forge]

You could logic that they picked dinosaurs because they are selling the replicator tech itself, and the dinosaurs are just the "floor model" - a flashy example of the replicator's power... but then why so many different types of dinosaurs? Once you hit like, Dryosaurus, the public at large will not care

[acoustic osprey]

It's a bit flawed and paradoxical
But it's still human nature

I far believe that AE definiti does so, at least one portion of it, as part of an ego aspect

And why so much research if you're there to just sell

I don't presume though, if they do sell, that selling is their main focus

If anything, a side gig

[patent ginkgo]

it seems like AE moved more into the idea of EIPs and "immortality" toward their later history

i wonder if AE retained its initial focus of climate change

[lethal moat]

I should rewatch my first episode

[fast forge]

we don't even know the severity of the climate change in AE's world

[patent ginkgo]

this comment makes me nervous

[fast forge]

I think y'all just mentioned it as an unsolved question, and he thinks he answered it in some fashion previously. I dunno if that episode would hold the answer

[acoustic osprey]

Like again
Lack of context and minimal response haha

Does he mean we answered it or he already did

The beautiful nightmare

[fast forge]

I assumed he already did, in some form

[lethal moat]

I’m going to rewatch anyways and see if anything else clicks either way with we currently know

[acoustic osprey]

The only thing that has been given, to my knowledge, was the necessary ans unfortunate thing

Unless he sent a gif and we're too insane to realise

[lethal moat]

He said he’s being pranked, so I assume that means something we mentioned was right

[valid geyser]

That or we’re all confused and he’s already said the answer before.. it could be read both ways

[acoustic osprey]

Hm, but it can still go either way
him feeling pranked that we're still curious about such, but he might've already assumed he answered already.

[fast forge]

this is how I read the situation

[lethal moat]

That episode came put months ago, it could be something we learned in the interim, like the climate change thing

[acoustic osprey]

yeah. Definitely same for now

[lethal moat]

You know what would be really sick? Matriarch concept art

Just like, randomly in phase three

[bold crater]

I want to know more of Tissoplastics >:)

[lethal moat]

I’m hearing Matriarch adjacent strain

I can’t do a podcast episode until we know more

[valid geyser]

How many episodes do you currently have?

[lofty swallow]

7 iirc

[valid geyser]

..and where do I listen to them

[lofty swallow]

spotify

[valid geyser]

…I don’t got that

[lofty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/buddy-atla-anime-sad-comfort-gif-27310286

[acoustic osprey]

it should be free to listen

@lethal moat what other platforms again?

[valid geyser]

I’ve used Spotify before..
I don’t want to touch it again..

[lofty swallow]

I mean it's just music

[valid geyser]

I’ve heard episode 3 is 100% the best

[lofty swallow]

are you referring to the ads?

[valid geyser]

No, I’d delete a song from a playlist and somehow the song would just appear again the next time I clicked in

[lofty swallow]

OH yeah I've had that problem so many times, are you doing it on mobile? seems to only happen there at least for me

[valid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[fast forge]

I was able to listen to them without creating an account or anything

[lofty swallow]

ah, then yeah that sucks, I think it's like a setting but idk, I'm not really a spotify nerd

[valid geyser]

I don’t care about ads so I just use YouTube for music

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!!

[fast forge]

I too use youtube for music, because I hate ads on youtube and I get the music app for free

[lofty swallow]

you should watch this for beethoven #videos-and-streams message

[acoustic osprey]

if the music player can connect to fm. bot
i'm happy

but my family has spotify family
so for what it's worth. We find the money worth it.
We listen to too much music

[lofty swallow]

I hear that

[acoustic osprey]

no, i hear that

[valid geyser]

Hear what.

[valid geyser]

It’s beautiful.

[lethal moat]

First episode is on YouTube

[acoustic osprey]

ah that's right

[valid geyser]

Only the one?

[lethal moat]

I despise editing

[lofty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-lumpy-space-princess-when-i-work-these-lumps-no-man-is-immune-to-their-influence-gif-5174576

[valid geyser]

If its a podcast it shouldn’t have to have an interactive background to it, just slap an image on it and if you ever want to make a shorter more fancy version later then you can do so

From what I can tell, most people put podcasts into the background anywho

I can’t words.

[lethal moat]

I want pictures with what we’re saying, if I’m doing a video podcast, I want it to be as informative as possible

[valid geyser]

I see

[lethal moat]

I also sprinkled in a few jokes throughout the video

[valid geyser]

Comedy

[lofty swallow]

I could make thumbnails for you

[lethal moat]

I think owlenstein made the first one, I could be wrong though

[valid geyser]

I’d offer to help with editing but my knowledge on lore is so.. unreliable I’d probably put the wrong image in

[lethal moat]

I also finished episode 3 right before I published the video for episode 1, so I won’t be editing 3 hours of footage where hacker wanders in and we ramble about tanks for a little bit

[valid geyser]

I see

[lofty swallow]

alright if you ever decide to make more videos, dm me, I wanna help make thumbnails

[lofty swallow]

wait crow do you have a youtube channel?

[valid geyser]

Yes, but I don’t post often.
Like I had a two year gap for a while

[lethal moat]

I mostly use my channel for bug reports to be honest

[valid geyser]

But I’ve done basic editing before, usually hours long worth of filming

[lofty swallow]

gameplay content?

[valid geyser]

Indeed I have

[fast forge]

I have a single video on my channel

[lofty swallow]

yo we should make a content server

where we can do collabs, or maybe I'm just dreaming idk

[lethal moat]

We have a few sections on the lore server we can use for that

[lofty swallow]

sweet

[lethal moat]

We’ve got a thing going with the apollo files where hacker and player give us sneak peaks

[valid geyser]

Hold up.
Who pronounced “AE” as “Aye” in this video.

Oh no they said AE, just sounded weird quickly

[lethal moat]

That might genuinely just be Shadow’s horrible mic quality

[lofty swallow]

alright guys I gotta go for now, but dm me, I like this made up idea of youtube stuff

https://tenor.com/view/ice-king-gif-16486523511509626153

[valid geyser]

It’s so loud help. My ears.
What do you mean? It’s lovely

[lethal moat]

It gets better

[lethal moat]

Now all I can think about is a super top secret rich old guy club where they brag about shooting a carnotaurus thinking it was a rex

“I shot three giganotasauruses”
Two sub allos and a raptor

[valid geyser]

“Yeah well I got a whole trike and Rex!”
Dibble and a cera.

[lethal moat]

Just general idiocy would be funny

“I used this here 50 bmg to take down a rex in one shot”
You got a lucky thigh shot on an alberto, it bled out and you found it later in addition to that being a m24 rifle

[fast forge]

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/super-honret-crazy-landing-aircraft-carrier-lso-gif-25034450

I have arrived- Oh damn I feel bad for that pilot

[lethal moat]

He could save it

[valid geyser]

Rumple the discord noises tricked me.

There’s discord noises in this video.

[lethal moat]

That was accidental and it’s also fixed in future videos

[valid geyser]

I’m being deceived!1!!1!

[hexed forge]

He could, I feel bad for the impact, it mustve hurt (The impact of when he tried to land)

Rough landing

[lethal moat]

Your spine is basically a bendy straw, he’ll be fine

[hexed forge]

Anyways...

I NEED MORE FENCES ON GATEWAY

[valid geyser]

I dunno..
I’m on the fence about that…

[fast forge]

they got me, and I was at work

[lethal moat]

More infrastructure in general would be sick, really want to see the ports

I think we can get more of a feel for security at one of the primary entrances to gateway

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-luffy-gear-5-luffy-gear-5-moon-luffy-lightning-luffy-gear-5-white-gif-5331635575688729002

[lethal moat]

Give me turret sentries

Or at least more cameras

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

I’d prefer the cameras

[hexed forge]

I think the dinosaurs would prefer the cameras too

[valid geyser]

Smile for the camera!

[lethal moat]

The replicator watches and decides that you specifically need a hot pink skin next growth

[valid geyser]

Glados jumpscare..

[lethal moat]

I also really want to see that cloning vat showcase Tapwing mentioned

I want to know just how big the big ones are

Is it glass tube display or is it casket with a window

We need answers people

[fast forge]

I'd be okay with it

being born different is okay 🌈

[valid geyser]

[lethal moat]

Yes, but the lack of camouflage could bite you in the butt

[fast forge]

yes, for example albino animals have a much lower survival rate

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[fast forge]

but if I got it randomly, I'd see it as fun or funny (especially since it's gone as soon as I die to it)

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bNie8.gif

[valid geyser]

Rumple stay sane

[lethal moat]

Absolutely not

[valid geyser]

Rumple why

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/want-you-to-do-it-gif-20550570

[lethal moat]

I’m much more fun when I’m unhinged

[valid geyser]

Hrm…
Could be more unhinged…
(Joke. I’m joking.)

[fast forge]

lose your hinges

[lethal moat]

You don’t see my server with friends

[valid geyser]

[fossil nebula]

looks like a f-18 hornet, that thing can easily throw full afterburner back on and fly away almost straight up like an alien ship

If he understood what to do he shoulda been fine

[signal pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/flying-car-crash-roundabout-funny-gif-17925885

[hexed forge]

Rip

[patent ginkgo]

POV: neuro

[lethal moat]

It’s got to be a motorcycle tho

[fast forge]

The Neurocycle

[hexed forge]

And it has to be going atlesst 100 more mph than in the gif

[patent ginkgo]

Just listened to episode 4, just realized y’all mentioned me in it. Feels cool to be impactful lol

[hexed forge]

[hexed forge]

The time of when you DMd me something that was meant to go to your friend....

https://tenor.com/view/bleach-simpson-homer-gif-12946893

[lethal moat]

You are an important and valued member of this team

[patent ginkgo]

💪🪴

[lethal moat]

That was relatively tame

[hexed forge]

I'm emotional support

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-paranoid-gif-4974019

[patent ginkgo]

And episode 6

And yes lol oranges and cashews are currently ingame

Still interesting to me how much more bred the oranges have been compared to the cashews

F51 versus F5 iirc

[hexed forge]

Do cashews or oranges have more nutrients 🤔

I don't know how it would make a difference but maybe they developed the oranges more because the oranges contained much more nutrients than cashews. And also maybe the oranges were common food for the herbivores.

[patent ginkgo]

My thoughts are that the oranges are more bred in general (they aren’t a natural species, completely manmade) and so may have required that they modify it a bit more
Alternatively, it could be due to having simply worked more on oranges at that time

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

You’re the dedicated plant guy

[patent ginkgo]

💪🪴

[valid geyser]

Hold up I just realised I don’t know nearly enough about the quetz drone considering my love for quetz.

[patent ginkgo]

We don’t know much about it either

It’s tapwing’s creation from what we know, Don just basically said yes to it

But seems like it could be for minimally invasive observation

[lethal moat]

We know the picture and that’s about it

[valid geyser]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/king-baldwin-gif-10960829910342338291

I kinda wish Tap did what she did with her headcannon matriarch to everything she made lol

because Drone Quetz is really cool
really interesting

[acoustic osprey]

send in the image meme!!

[lethal moat]

This one?

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[valid geyser]

yay!

[lethal moat]

Yippie!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/realize-whoa-mindblown-wtf-albino-gif-5049830

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fight-cat-fighting-cute-fight-cute-cat-fight-fight-gif-1524725573532120617

[lethal moat]

Unspeakable violence

[fast forge]

just for that, matriarch is no longer canon

[lethal moat]

Automod won’t let me use the words I need to describe my emotions rn

[lofty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/green-ninjago-ninja-sensei-sensei-wu-gif-6467414812525449281

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/red-color-favorite-color-simon-pryce-red-wiggle-gif-15016424

[lofty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-finn-shocked-jaw-drop-in-awe-gif-3736792

https://tenor.com/view/fin-never-adventure-time-gif-10473671

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-whatever-fine-whatever-gif-gif-7892631202993336744

[fast forge]

Have we heard if the matriarch will actually appear in the game in some capacity, or is she just a lore thing? (I feel like I've asked this before but forget the answer...)

[hexed forge]

Prob a lore thing

I doubt it will be playable

But maybe we can find it's carcass

[fast forge]

I don't think it will be playable, but could be a random event or world boss or something

[hexed forge]

[lofty swallow]

https://tenor.com/view/donked-up-angry-messed-up-donked-up-gif-27113334

[lethal moat]

Not yet, however, you best believe I will be commissioning more art as time goes on and we get to see what the real matriarch is like

[signal pivot]

I need to draw her more she is an awesome beast.

[lethal moat]

Bobbit worm face

Stage 7 matriarch just becomes gulper eel

[signal pivot]

Truth

[valid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/eel-gulper-eel-marine-life-aquatic-gif-21746770

[signal pivot]

Shes kind of an excuse just to draw weird dino-body-horror or something more people need to take advantage of that

[scarlet verge]

What is that?

[valid geyser]

The gif?

[scarlet verge]

Yeah I've never seen something like that before

[valid geyser]

Tis a gulper eel

[signal pivot]

El gulper eel

https://tenor.com/view/sea-creature-cystisoma-transparent-gif-24963055

The sea contains many weird creatures

[lethal moat]

Gulper eel, it’s basically a living grocery store bag that opens and closes to eat things

[scarlet verge]

Googling doesn't make it look any better

[lethal moat]

Adorable lil guy

[pale marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/eel-swim-sea-wiggle-gif-16481441

I love gulpers

Odd fellows

[crisp raven]

Horde lore when lightclaw?1

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-dr-house-tongue-silly-goofy-gif-4912052

[crisp raven]

I know you're hiding it

[lethal moat]

On the idea of the Boeing’s situation getting worse, lets talk about incidents AE could suffer from other than sabotage and dinosaur in base

One thing is messed up and an entire generation of maia die to the common cold

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1048536975323451402/1238081418412953681/giffka.gif

[crisp raven]

BRO

WHHERE IS THAT FROM

[hexed forge]

Thevian, an isle YTer, he does amazing intros to his videos.

[hexed forge]

Chemical leak

[signal pivot]

One thing I was thinking about when it comes to the “dinosaurs in modern times” thing is how would they fight against modern disease and whatnot

But it can be a bit boring to write, maybe

[young viper]

HA im saving this

[hexed forge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233172732200489011/1235616438765621571/ezgif.com-resize_7.gif

[fast forge]

we don't even have a good analog because we don't actually know what AE made the dinos from - it doesn't seem to be reconstituted chicken DNA

[acoustic osprey]

I presume, for the most part, imagine an originally sterile piece of meat enters the world that is basically a completely new and original piece of meat

now leave it in the wild for a day or two
see what sticks to it. And what intoxicates it

[lethal moat]

Drunk stego

[acoustic osprey]

i don't imagine exactly replicating the immune something would be easily done.
I can imagine it taking quite a few tries to make "X" create suitable in Gateway's environment

heck
We know Dibble was in it's second injection
either second injection for it's phenotype or for all dibble versions

or even second injection for it's generation (F36) - which is a bit 50/50
for me i think it's weird to have a second batch of the F36 generation. Why not refer to the first injection?
But that's assuming the first injection failed (i.e. died of sickness)
but we can't be for sure with that

however
the "second injection" and the amount of generations dibble went through

likely suggests that Dibbles, and quite likely every other animal created by AE, likely doesn't really succeed in surviving for the most part upfront/initially

and therefore is improved

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/upgrades-robots-gif-21291099

[acoustic osprey]

I do understand that F36 might just mean they don't have any specific ties with biological improvements from AE

as I'm not super science man with animals and biology

[fast forge]

F36 usually is looking at allele frequency after a cross, i.e. they mixed two things and are looking at the descendents

[acoustic osprey]

so I might be wrong on if they might modify a dibble that would still count as it being the "36th gen" etc etc

[hexed forge]

Im dumb when it comes to genetics topics and biology so Ima just...

[fast forge]

If it's a study with planned crosses or back-breeding you'd probably count it as the same gen line

[acoustic osprey]

my mother does microbiology and medicine
more than enough science in my family, thanks

[fast forge]

I don't really know, I haven't gotten that deep into the genetics

[lethal moat]

If the replicator makes changes depending on the last generation, new series could qualify as that next generation of species, rather than just clones of the previous generation

[valid geyser]

I know some stuff about genetics and biology..
But brain cannot function when lore

[acoustic osprey]

hmm

[fast forge]

But typically if you are using the 'F36' notation, that implies that things haven't been messed with, you are looking at the results from a cross 36 generations ago

[hexed forge]

Only thing Im good at in lore is probably... uh.....

[lethal moat]

If you're using the replicator to artificially speed up evolution, why not just use existing terms?

[acoustic osprey]

i'm guessing it's something to do with their domes then or within a semi-sterile environment
prepare the dibbles, per generation, for Gateway's environment then?

then inject them into Gateway

[fast forge]

don't feel bad, I went to college and probably am a fair bit older than most of you

[acoustic osprey]

unless they injected a batch of Dibbles from "X" gen every gen to see
and we only saw a slice, a cross-section, of this process with a specific dibble gen. In this case, it being f36

[hexed forge]

I think I am the youngest active lore member

[acoustic osprey]

technical theatre and sound are the only things I actually have any qualifications for
the rest is all personal study and hobbying

sadly they don't do Isle lore at uni

not yet at least

[acoustic osprey]

i think you are

[hexed forge]

Shame! Horrible uni!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/house-md-dr-house-tongue-silly-goofy-gif-4912052

[valid geyser]

If I became active I’d probably be the new youngest
Good thing im not. Lorecord scares me.

[hexed forge]

15

[acoustic osprey]

might just be then

[valid geyser]

Nevermind.

[hexed forge]

Crow how old did you think I was

[valid geyser]

I thought you were older not gonna lie .

[acoustic osprey]

15 is still pretty young anyways for an industry choice.
I was still in the middle of thinking I was going to be an optometrist or palaeontologist back then

[valid geyser]

Like maybe a year older than me??

[signal pivot]

lore

[hexed forge]

Arent you like.. 30?

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-negotiations-bender-discussion-this-isnt-a-productive-area-of-discussion-gif-22517580

[valid geyser]

IM NOT THIRTY

[hexed forge]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

42

[hexed forge]

yeah prob 40

[valid geyser]

NO??

[fast forge]

lol that's older than me

[lethal moat]

At least in his 70s

[valid geyser]

Yeah perfect!1!1

[acoustic osprey]

^

[acoustic osprey]

what about this tiny

[hexed forge]

Damn I actually thought you were 30

[lethal moat]

Yo, that's when I started playing the isle

[fast forge]

I'll say it again

#isle-lore-theories message

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kingdom-of-heaven-ko-h-gif-21401813

[hexed forge]

Lorebrains need a laughing break

[valid geyser]

Damn y’all thought I was old..

Anyways back to lore.

[hexed forge]

If we lore around too much, our brains might explode. Idk

[valid geyser]

… yknow what no. Why did you think I was thirty?

[hexed forge]

Idk

[fast forge]

Perhaps, it's an idea

[hexed forge]

Anyways, LORE!

[lethal moat]

I use this to get an average of people who are interested in isle lore

[valid geyser]

…
Why is 0 there.

[hexed forge]

Woah Im part of the 13%

[hexed forge]

I think Isaac might be 0 years old

[fast forge]

A real benjamin button scenario

[lethal moat]

Don't know, it's spotify statistics

[hexed forge]

Also there is like 1 person who is 60+...

[valid geyser]

The old can be curious

[hexed forge]

Grandpa got lost on spotify

[valid geyser]

Anyways back to lore.

[hexed forge]

Yes, lore.

[lethal moat]

$10 says it's my dad showing my grandparents

[hexed forge]

Ask your dad rn

Omg we keep going offtopic..

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cooper-howard-fallout-thumbs-up-fallout-tv-vault-tec-gif-6009891785160118102

[hexed forge]

If lore is lore, then what will lore be if lore lores because of the lore loring in the lore of lore. Wouldnt lore become the lorelore of lore

[lethal moat]

We're doing this instead of doing the wheel, pick one and we'll go over something in that folder

[hexed forge]

MAP STUFF

[signal pivot]

Im stupid whats the diff between gen 1/2 again

[hexed forge]

Specifically fences

[valid geyser]

I like strains or gen 1

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 are gremlin, gen 2 are sexy

[valid geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-side-eye-side-eye-cat-food-cat-food-side-eye-gif-3423883768828421583

[signal pivot]

tysm i fully understand now

[fast forge]

I could see Gen 2 on billboards

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/683040176397746187/965087719715905546/image01.gif

[valid geyser]

Hey look a map

Wait, nesting grounds?

[hexed forge]

What I was always curious about, is the bottomleft side literally just a giant beach

[fast forge]

Hmmm is that stuff in F5?

[sterile spire]

Five nights in the isle