Would also explain limited resources for gen 2
#isle-lore-theories
lethal moat
acoustic osprey
https://climatechange.chicago.gov/sites/production/files/2016-07/seaiceloss.jpg
presumably around 30-50% of ice being melted
meager junco
Would also explain, why everything is underground
Not even for secrecy, but for safety
patent ginkgo
true
lethal moat
It's a working theory
acoustic osprey
Would also explain, why everything is underground
underground would be terribly bad idea for water-levels
Especially on an island
rather than just being high up
lethal moat
underground would be terribly bad idea for water-levels
Especially on an island
Not if the underground was on top of a mountain
meager junco
True but I feel like these aren’t our regular doomsday backyard bunkers
acoustic osprey
Not if the underground was on top of a mountain
why just not be underground and just exist in high mountainous areas like the alps
patent ginkgo
interestingly, this advanced climate scenario could be part of the reason why Gateway is so ecologically diverse, as its kind of a hodgepodge of tropical things that have been put into a location that wasnt initially tropical
lethal moat
Alright, so the existance of docks might throw a wrench into this idea
patent ginkgo
Alright, so the existance of docks might throw a wrench into this idea
yeah i was just about to say that
dang
lethal moat
We can think along this vein though, just not to that extreme
meager junco
Is it bad I’m sad we never got to see completed docks on spiro, just hoping we get a dock just as big or bigger
lethal moat
Nah, Docks would have been nice
meager junco
i mean we know that climate change isnt looking too great to AE
“Some things I do may seem evil, but they are necessary”
patent ginkgo
im still very interested by this #isle-lore-theories message
im sure it ties into yesterday's stuff
acoustic osprey
im still very interested by this https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193...
but still #isle-lore-theories message
patent ginkgo
yep
meager junco
Puzzles pieces are coming together piece by piece
patent ginkgo
that may be why the "external threat" wanted to destroy the TOMB, or at least plays a part in it
meager junco
Honestly, if AE truly are the good guys in terms of trying to save humanity, then whoever is against them is definitely either evil, or is just plain dumb and has no clue why they’re doing the things they do
patent ginkgo
or perhaps doesnt have the same length of view
lethal moat
Honestly, if AE truly are the good guys in terms of trying to save humanity, the...
I’d say it’s more likely greed and lack of knowledge
patent ginkgo
AE, im guessing, doesn't necessarily do things for the immediate future anymore (at least not entirely). AE probably functions off of a grand plan for the future, one that they see as a sort of last-ditch effort to save... something (presumably earth, humanity, etc.)
lethal moat
Long term plans don’t sell super well
meager junco
If they know what AE is trying to accomplish , then there’s definitely someone at the top of this external threat that isn’t exactly the good guy, if they were able to find out about the experiments were , then they most likely had the potential to learn what AEs plans are in general
meager junco
I’d say it’s more likely greed and lack of knowledge
But I do agree lack of knowledge could be a key part of it
lethal moat
People don’t knowingly walk into a raptor paddock
patent ginkgo
was TOMB directly mentioned in the augustus vid?
meager junco
This external threat basically doomed humanity if they succeeded in sabotaging AE
patent ginkgo
People don’t knowingly walk into a raptor paddock
meager junco
People don’t knowingly walk into a raptor paddock
patent ginkgo
also i think TOMB starts with "The"
meager junco
Impossible, it’s for TIMOTHY
patent ginkgo
given that don referred to it as "TOMB" and not "the TOMB"
patent ginkgo
Impossible, it’s for TIMOTHY
lol
meager junco
What even were the guesses we came up with
I remember biomaterial and something like that
acoustic osprey
Honestly, if AE truly are the good guys in terms of trying to save humanity, the...
acoustic osprey
given that don referred to it as "TOMB" and not "the TOMB"
it's like GUTS
nothing refers to it as The GUTS
because the both things are explicitly without an article and are just an acronymed Proper Nouns
patent ginkgo
true
acoustic osprey
Don, though, referred to TOMB being called "The Tomb" as a more laxed aspect
the same can be assumed with The Guts
acoustic osprey
but TOMB and GUTS is the more accurate term, if you want to be funny lore nerd
patent ginkgo
we all want to be a funny lore nerd!
acoustic osprey
nuh uh
patent ginkgo
oh
meager junco
https://tenor.com/view/vitruvius-gif-26624971
lethal moat
The TOMB to me is just super top secret storage room
meager junco
I do like the original theory that it was a giant cryogenic lab that housed a bunch of special assets
hexed forge
Hello tartarus
patent ginkgo
i have a feeling that Ben is in TOMB
young viper
Hello tartarus
meager junco
Hopefully BEN is special and you can only see him in one spot, I don’t want 50 BENs 
hexed forge
i have a feeling that Ben is in TOMB
Same,I hope there is a section that includes Vats
patent ginkgo
her...
hexed forge
Bro ben is clearly an apache helicopter
Wait thats not even an apache
Thats a Ka-52 god damnit
meager junco
You war thunder nerd
hexed forge
Thanks
fast forge
Don, though, referred to TOMB being called "The Tomb" as a more laxed aspect
this also falls in line with the term "entombment" being used
patent ginkgo
mhm
so, from watching the augustus vid again, i noticed that tartarus sounds like either a sort of vault or a genuine lab for r&d
while olympus relocation and entombment are related
lethal moat
#isle-lore-theories message Augustus isn’t ok, so that leads me to believe that Ben probably isn’t in the TOMB
patent ginkgo
also, AE has a global research database, so stuff concerning the dinos is available to AE employees above a certain level globally it seems
patent ginkgo
https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/401480573471948821/1214395204673...
ah true, from the Augustus vid it also seems that entombment only happens to successes
while tartarus seems to happen to things that have potential or are intrigueing
so tartarus sounds more experimental in nature, while TOMB sounds more archival, which makes sense
lethal moat
Ben sits on a doctor’s desk as a decoration
patent ginkgo
im working on refining my TOMB guess
treasury seems correct
organisms could be correct
mutations/materials doesnt seem correct
and botanicals/biotraces doesnt either
i think TOMB probably says something related to it being a compilation of the good results of AE's work
scarlet verge
B is for Ben
fast forge
Don said it had something to do with EIP's
patent ginkgo
true
fast forge
wrong bar lol
patent ginkgo
m could be mind(s)
patent ginkgo
wrong bar lol
nw
fast forge
A physical location that has something to do with EIP's
patent ginkgo
and augustus was selected to go there
scarlet verge
Could it be like Biotraces?
patent ginkgo
due to being a success
patent ginkgo
Could it be like Biotraces?
to me biotrace sounds like an item, at least from how it was phrased in the ERRANT-291 report
however, it could very well be something a little less directly tangible
actually, if biotraces are more physical, that makes sense given what don has said about TOMB
fast forge
scarlet verge
I’m just trying to think what medical or scientifically significant word that could start with a B and fit what we’re looking for
patent ginkgo
o could be organic
scarlet verge
Treasury of Organic Mental Biotraces
patent ginkgo
man i wish don could tell me if O stands for "of" or something else
fast forge
man i wish don could tell me if O stands for "of" or something else
usually that's not included in acronyms
patent ginkgo
thats what im thinking
fast forge
Treasury of Organic Mental Biotraces
I don't think it's treasury
lethal moat
Biotrace is my favorite so far
patent ginkgo
I don't think it's treasury
how so? it seems don alluded to it
fast forge
how so? it seems don alluded to it
I thought the opposite. It's hard to interpret someone who speaks in gifs sometimes
patent ginkgo
very true
fast forge
I took this gif #isle-lore-theories message to mean that he thought the idea of "treasury" as quaintly amusing. It could also be read as wanting to speak but holding oneself back
patent ginkgo
whats the gif name
patent ginkgo
hmm, embryonic intellibence profiles as an acronym should probably also be looked at
specifically the embryonic part
scarlet verge
Good point. I was thinking more about what could be in there that would get stolen
patent ginkgo
not stolen, destroyed
by what seems to have been alluded to as a rival company
or at least some external adversary
scarlet verge
Ahh right so it could be data. I hate being on mobile because I can’t go back and look as easy
patent ginkgo
that isnt a government
scarlet verge
Yeah I’m glad we got belonging to a nation ruled out
acoustic osprey
this also falls in line with the term "entombment" being used
possibly
acoustic osprey
not stolen, destroyed
eradicated less "purged" (to keep in mind, especially about the purged bit)
meager junco
TOMB
patent ginkgo
purged, to me, says more along the lines of getting rid of bad things while leaving good things
acoustic osprey
purged, to me, says more along the lines of getting rid of bad things while leav...
purged would be as if deleting files on a computer
patent ginkgo
what do we know about EIPs
lethal moat
Eradicated also seems more systematic
acoustic osprey
meager junco
what do we know about EIPs
I mean other than legacy lore of it(EIP is you the player, respawning)nothing really other than it’s related to TOMB somehow
patent ginkgo
thought so
hexed forge
Lore
patent ginkgo
so i asked chatgpt to make some potential TOMB acronyms to help me get ideas, and 10 out of 10 results had "organism" as the O
i also gave it some background on EIPs and AE
acoustic osprey
hmph
patent ginkgo
not that its foolproof in any way, but certainly interesting
acoustic osprey
So uh, what do we think about the idea of a worker village?
would definitely exist
but we need more information and concept art!!
hexed forge
would definitely exist
but we need more information and concept art!!
yippeee.......
lethal moat
So uh, what do we think about the idea of a worker village?
Maybe not on gateway
hexed forge
I would believe it will be on gateway, especially if gateway is a research facility of some sorts where they monitor their assets. SOME, of their assets.
hexed forge
Maybe not on gateway
And it would make sense to exist on every island that does massive research, right?
acoustic osprey
having a workers village should be mandatory
unless they have to leave the island and re-enter each day
hexed forge
^
meager junco
Apollo Comforts aka Hotel for employees 
hexed forge
Apollo Comforts aka Hotel for employees <:TI_Troll:472576085482143745>
I wonder if there have been any "household" models made for gen 2
Like kitchen stuff
patent ginkgo
i think gateway is a manufactured ecosystem made as a sort of testground for new iterations of dinos and such
meager junco
I wonder if there have been any "household" models made for gen 2
Depends on what you mean by “houses” you can have a whole block of houses that are one unit
Or just a plain old 2 story modern home
hexed forge
Depends on what you mean by “houses” you can have a whole block of houses that a...
Household things that are required in the normal daily life of a human really. A bed, closet, and some sort of equipment to cook food?
hexed forge
"Barracks" might be more appropriate
Yeah
meager junco
Household things that are required in the normal daily life of a human really. A...
Doesn’t require much, and isn’t expensive if that’s all they’re for, just a small 30 ft by 30 ft building that supports all of those, electricity , plumbing
meager junco
But that also depends on how employees and/or Gen 2 really function in the lore, reasonably, it would be best to have a building that supports more than 1 living person if there are thousands of workers
patent ginkgo
remember don's recent stream with the buildings
it had some office and barrack spaces iirc
hexed forge
Wasnt there also a vending machine in the building?
patent ginkgo
meager junco
Workers need their Pepsi
patent ginkgo
also, im thinking memory/ies could be the M in TOMB
meager junco
I think you’ve gone through most possible meanings honestly, at least for stuff that makes sense
patent ginkgo
yeah, and i doubt don would go out of his way to confirm if i was correct
hexed forge
Jolly is reading dondis notes tbh, im convinced.
meager junco
yeah, and i doubt don would go out of his way to confirm if i was correct
Exactly, he’s even said we come very close at times and I’m sure he’s just holding himself back trying to correct/help us
patent ginkgo
yeah lol
meager junco
I just find it funny how he basically throws lore ideas to the team and he’s just waiting for everyone’s reaction on it
lethal moat
I won’t feel safe on gateway unless I’m in a sealed underground room or inside of a sealed dome
meager junco
I won’t feel safe till Ik Shirley is looking over me
iron anchor
I won’t feel safe on gateway unless I’m in a sealed underground room or inside o...
man i cant wait for the full game to release
humans are gonna be going through the greatest horror experience of all time
we dont even fully understand the extent to what creatures the island can house
patent ginkgo
hey im markiplier and today we're going to be playing a game called the isle...
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
meager junco
All humans will fear the ultimate predator.
BEN
lethal moat
hey im markiplier and today we're going to be playing a game called the isle...
...
I would love to see Zanny or Russianbadger play, I think they’d have good reactions
patent ginkgo
will be fun seeing people discover the final lore in a proper way
not through external bits and pieces like we do
meager junco
I would love to see Zanny or Russianbadger play, I think they’d have good reacti...
Isn’t zanny that guy that plays stuff like Elden ring and is a pretty chill dude in general
I can def see him
lethal moat
Isn’t zanny that guy that plays stuff like Elden ring and is a pretty chill dude...
Yes, head singer in the band “Clankers in Pajamas”
meager junco
His style is perfect for the isle lol
lethal moat
His style is perfect for the isle lol
I agree, perfect mix of silly, screaming, and appreciation, mixed with valid critique
meager junco
I can already see how some of his death reactions will go 
lethal moat
“Stay off the sand?” This sign can’t stop me because I can’t read
patent ginkgo
"Treasury of Organism Memory Backups" perhaps?
i really am starting to feel like a conspiricy theorist now
hexed forge
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
I hope the next lore video is related to EIPs/tomb/tartarus
patent ginkgo
i simply hope we get lore that allows us to pretty well fill in a lot of gaps
strategically placed lore if you will
patent ginkgo
yep
cause this is where isle lore seems to really branch off from other things, and away from reality
patent ginkgo
well anyway, i think its reasonably apparent given what we know now about TOMB that the external threat wanted to make AE lose a lot of successful orgnaisms. wonder if they knew about tartarus?
meager junco
well anyway, i think its reasonably apparent given what we know now about TOMB t...
I wonder if maybe they targeted a specific organism as first, but then saw all the other ones that AE had
patent ginkgo
also, olympus seems to me to be a place where successful organisms can be collected to be shown to higher-ups, or perhaps to graduate to the next level of whatever purpose they may have
patent ginkgo
I wonder if maybe they targeted a specific organism as first, but then saw all t...
if that is the case, i would assume gen 1 or 2
meager junco
That’s what I’m thinking
patent ginkgo
hmm, i just had a thought
could tartarus be the storage for the body while TOMB is the storage for the mind?
although again, TOMB is physical
hmmm
meager junco
I mean my theory on tomb is that it’s just a server room filled with EIPs
acoustic osprey
to note though, Don's reference to "physical" meant it was physically attacked
it may still exist in some cyber-esque existence
patent ginkgo
perhpas
acoustic osprey
only way to truly destroy a server is by physically destroying it
patent ginkgo
i mean its clearly a facility of some sort
meager junco
So it’s a possibility, but with crazy monstrous creatures that resemble titans(colossus more so) I can see it leaning more towards what the actual Tartarus is, a prison for the ultimate criminal
patent ginkgo
well, augustus has "additional replications" in tartarus after it was chosen for olympus relocation and entombment
which makes me think that tartarus is a sort of vault
meager junco
Wonder if they labeled a few herreras 174-B,C,D, ect…
After Augustus was relocated I mean
acoustic osprey
well, augustus has "additional replications" in tartarus after it was chosen for...
don't forget "remain"
Hence why I still believe Tartarus is connected/part of a larger creation aspect
and not just solely "encasement"
patent ginkgo
and again, TOMB sounds like something that is for AE's success stories or interesting finds
acoustic osprey
and again, TOMB sounds like something that is for AE's success stories or intere...
patent ginkgo
what
acoustic osprey
hi
patent ginkgo
did i guess something you know...
meager junco
Could just be a server room in general, not just EIPS, let’s say one section is EIPS, another is research achievements, others would be files on workers and so on
patent ginkgo
Could just be a server room in general, not just EIPS, let’s say one section is ...
i can only comprehend EIPs being stored electronically
acoustic osprey
i can only comprehend EIPs being stored electronically
how else would they be done anyways
unless a possible option could be "literal replicated brain"
patent ginkgo
the only other possibility i could think of is a sort of set of procedures to follow for raising something
patent ginkgo
unless a possible option could be "literal replicated brain"
fitting a human brain in a pterodactylus seems difficult
meager junco
unless a possible option could be "literal replicated brain"
Hm, I hate that idea, but I like it too
acoustic osprey
fitting a human brain in a pterodactylus seems difficult
wait
You're thinking like EIPs are 'bluetooth' connected through to a body?
patent ginkgo
no, ill explain
acoustic osprey
you mean you don't like them placing a whole human brain inside a dino body
meager junco
I personally thought the dinosaurs were designed so they can just have an EIP sent to them through a computer
young viper
i want to see an EIP in action
acoustic osprey
I personally thought the dinosaurs were designed so they can just have an EIP se...
EIPs were less "whole physical human brain + dino body"
and more so human consciousness, the mind, inside a capable engineered body. In legacy's case, a dinosaur
acoustic osprey
i want to see an EIP in action
You have.
Many times. Over and over again.
patent ginkgo
more like a sort of blueprint for how to "convert" a brain structure of one sort (ie: human) into another sort (ie: gallimimus)
young viper
You have.
Many times. Over and over again.
meager junco
EIPs were less "whole physical human brain + dino body"
and more so human consci...
Yeh that’s what I originally thought, especially since legacy had more of that “soul” feeling when it comes to EIP
patent ginkgo
https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769
players
young viper
acoustic osprey
EIPs were less "whole physical human brain + dino body"
and more so human consci...
@patent ginkgo
meager junco
You worded that so perfect once
It was something along the lines of “you are being replicated”
patent ginkgo
<@1024109112151248916>
so is that saying that my idea is wrong, or more so just a bit more info?
acoustic osprey
I wouldn't say EIPs are a blueprint.
EIPs are still the mind.
meager junco
I’d say it’s it’s a change of vision on how you looked at it, less physical , more download EIP to Dino
acoustic osprey
if anything, depending on what TOMB is, that would be the blueprint
TOMB = to make (store?) the mind
Tartarus = to make and store the body
patent ginkgo
TOMB = to make (store?) the mind
Tartarus = to make and store the body
mhm
acoustic osprey
Chakra Engineering
young viper
<@1024109112151248916>
What would you feel after a unknown "something" in a laboratory put you to sleep and then the next night you are released into a forest, but 'boom!' Your body feels strange And you realize that now you are an EIP, any help you try to ask for will be considered an attack, your co-workers will not recognize you And they will try to destroy you Out of fear
meager junco
TOMB = to make (store?) the mind
Tartarus = to make and store the body
Would make sense if Tartarus truly isn’t what we think it is, not a prison, but more of what we originally thought TOMBs was
A giant facility with organisms everywhere
acoustic osprey
What would you feel after a unknown "something" in a laboratory put you to sleep...
You wouldn't really know you're an "EIP" unless you knew what an EIP was beforehand
acoustic osprey
Would make sense if Tartarus truly isn’t what we think it is, not a prison, but ...
I mean
I've never really seen it as a prison from legacy into Evrima
it seems far more both
what creates also stores
young viper
You wouldn't really know you're an "EIP" unless you knew what an EIP was beforeh...
Ok let's remove the "you find out it's an EIP" part what would you do
patent ginkgo
A giant facility with organisms everywhere
or a giant island with organisms everywhere
would be interesting if the wilds of gateway itself was tartarus
meager junco
I mean
I've never really seen it as a prison from legacy into Evrima
it seems fa...
Good point, I try to not go crazy on the similarities between Greek mytho and isle stuff
But it seems I keep trying to think Tartarus as a prison
acoustic osprey
Ok let's remove the "you find out it's an EIP" part what would you do
#isle-lore-theories message
it's basically my ant talk yesterday
in truth.
Who knows. It's a very existential living scenario.
At least I (whether knowing or not) can be replicated again and again.
but am I really me? Or is it just something with my mind now trying life out
meager junco
or a giant *island* with organisms everywhere
would be interesting if the wilds...
Thats actually a cool idea, the wilds are hell
acoustic osprey
Good point, I try to not go crazy on the similarities between Greek mytho and is...
to be fair
Tartarus also made stuff (the spirit that is Tartarus in Tartarus)
but Tartarus also held stuff that it made (plus others)
acoustic osprey
https://tenor.com/view/station19-ben-warren-its-very-poetic-poetic-poetry-gif-26...
patent ginkgo
gateway still seems more like a place to test the survival abilities of organisms
young viper
gateway still seems more like a place to test the survival abilities of organism...
or of EIPs?
Do we know why the name Gateway?
patent ginkgo
gateway still seems more like a place to test the survival abilities of organism...
in which, it could be a gateway into said organism's advancement in production
acoustic osprey
Do we know why the name Gateway?
Gateway to tartarus is the indirect meaning
young viper
So tartarus is on the Gateway map?
acoustic osprey
we don't know
young viper
Maybe under the volcano
meager junco
Gateway is the key to Tartarus, could be under it, could be connected to it, we still have much to learn
patent ginkgo
given the augustus video, im fairly sure that gateway is the way to be essentially chosen for tartarus
or, chosen for other things, which you need to have replications inside of tartarus for backup
meager junco
You mean you need to be a gateway creature to go to Tartarus?
patent ginkgo
perhaps
again, gateway as a testing ground for new organisms seems likely to me
if you pass the test, the next step is being chosen for replication
young viper
#isle-lore-theories message what do we think about this one?
meager junco
Gateway might’ve also been the first or second island they started working on(since the first is most likely where Olympus and Tartarus are)
patent ginkgo
the replications are then stored in tartarus, or even created there in the first place
patent ginkgo
https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/401480573471948821/1227459949034...
an interesting thought, one that we cant really know about for certain
meager junco
I still find Augustus video a bit off in terms of what Augustus is doing, yes animals do her curious, especially with flashing lights, but it seemed hell bent on getting those cameras down
patent ginkgo
yeah
meager junco
It’s very possible that the reason it only attacked in the first clips is because it’s night, and the lights are attracting it
patent ginkgo
throughout its life as well
meager junco
While during the day clip , it doesn’t attack
meager junco
Is it not? I forget what the specifics were
patent ginkgo
at that point, augustus had already been chosen
acoustic osprey
It’s very possible that the reason it only attacked in the first clips is becaus...
knowing that the CCTV models have lights on them
it could've very much been an biological response to the light being emitted from the MCAMs
meager junco
Yeh I’d like it to be something more sinister is going on, like something is leading Augustus to doing these things
Even tho it attacking the cameras is probably just a natural thing they wanted to do, like “oh pretty light, bite bite bite”
patent ginkgo
Even tho it attacking the cameras is probably just a natural thing they wanted t...
if it was, i would think other things would have
acoustic osprey
if it was, i would think other things would have
would have attacked the cameras?
meager junco
True but we can’t assume all the dinosaurs behaviours just yet, at least not for Herrera, since we only saw 2 from what you’ve said
acoustic osprey
we don't really know if anything else has attacked such though
patent ginkgo
would have attacked the cameras?
yes
acoustic osprey
Augustus was only noticed first due to his attacking of the MCAMs
patent ginkgo
we don't really know *if* anything else has attacked such though
i would think that other things that can power through the fences would have, like a rex
acoustic osprey
this report being about him
hexed forge
meager junco
i would think that other things that can power through the fences would have, li...
Technically, dibble video, something hurt the camera
acoustic osprey
i would think that other things that can power through the fences would have, li...
this is still a report about Augustus
we have no information if "X" has before
patent ginkgo
i would think that other things that can power through the fences would have, li...
if it was a common response to cameras
hexed forge
<:TI_DiloSip:779083177238593556>
I already made a theory on it 
meager junco
acoustic osprey
Technically, dibble video, something hurt the camera
two things did technically
patent ginkgo
this is still a report about Augustus
we have no information *if* "X" has before
its more so that they probably wouldnt have those cameras if they were getting destroyed all the time
acoustic osprey
I already made a theory on it <:TI_DangerRex:612417184588628024>
(we're talking about it because Lego Owen brought it up)
meager junco
True, and both were accidents from what I’ve seen
hexed forge
Technically, dibble video, something hurt the camera
The rex and the dibble tilting the camera were 100% accidents tbh
The augustus one however
meager junco
The theropod was literally just walking by and said move
hexed forge
The theropod was literally just walking by and said move
Its rex, no one will say otherwise 
🔫
acoustic osprey
its more so that they probably wouldnt have those cameras if they were getting d...
depends.
We're lacking a lot of context behind time, place and issue with it there.
We barely have information on how the dinos are on the island- and how that's organised.
Plus how they treat these animals in terms of their (AE employees) safety
meager junco
Its rex, no one will say otherwise <:TI_SmugTroodon:838140327805190144>🔫
I’m trying not to start a war here!
acoustic osprey
so we can't really assume the situation on the destruction of MCAMs being more or less frequent at the moment
hexed forge
I’m trying not to start a war here!<:TI_LetsGo:990721756539002950>
The shadow!
patent ginkgo
i do wonder if theres a seperate way that large dinos are kept away from bases like K15 and I12
meager junco
The shadow!
Tis me, that’s all you need to know
meager junco
Did you just call me fat
hexed forge
hexed forge
https://tenor.com/view/sml-t-rex-angry-mad-roar-gif-8566215164952282973
We just killed the lore discussion..
patent ginkgo
good job
hexed forge
Thanks- Wait I should not be proud of that
hexed forge
i do wonder if theres a seperate way that large dinos are kept away from bases l...
This will sound very sci-fi but, some strong sort of radio waves that keep them away?
Keep large things away specifically.
patent ginkgo
eh, radios dont really do that
hexed forge
I meant like a different type of wave/something else, I forgot what its called.
patent ginkgo
i could see something more akin to simply annoying frequencies of sound
fast forge
Yeah you can just do that with sound
hexed forge
Oh yeah sound waves!
patent ginkgo
i forgot about those!
hexed forge
I thought of waves but I forgot which one
meager junco
We just killed the lore discussion..
I blame you
hexed forge
I blame you
Uno reverse.
hexed forge
Yes, it was entombed.
hexed forge
Augustus was too special to remain in the wilds, aka why we got climbing herrera...
Didnt the replicator then start replicating the climbing versions?
Oh wait nvm, those replications were moved into tartarus.
patent ginkgo
remained
meager junco
It was just that 174(Augustus) was what AE was going to use for future herreras
hexed forge
But they dont want wild climbing herreras
patent ginkgo
no they did
fast forge
Oh wait nvm, those replications were moved into tartarus.
no, they remain in tartarus, it doesn't say they were moved there
hexed forge
Wha-
meager junco
No they did, but it’s more about knowing why Augustus is special
patent ginkgo
the herrera that killed the dryo was a replication
hexed forge
Does that mean tartarus is just a lab? Where the assets were created/replicated
meager junco
That’s what I’m starting to think
patent ginkgo
perhaps
hexed forge
So if they wanted wild climbing herreras why did the replications remain in tartarus 
meager junco
It’s a facility where maybe not everything is stored away but the bigger projects are, or more important ones are
patent ginkgo
So if they wanted wild climbing herreras why did the replications remain in tart...
what if gateway is tartarus
meager junco
Either they were sent due to being outdated, or as jolly said, maybe we’re looking at it the wrong way
hexed forge
what if gateway is tartarus
fast forge
what if gateway is tartarus
I was thinking about that, but then how is it also the gateway to tartarus?
fast forge
I had considered maybe it's just a section of the island, but that doesn't fit the vibe
patent ginkgo
I was thinking about that, but then how is it also the gateway *to* tartarus?
if you pass the survival test, you stay, and its tartarus. if you dont pass, you dont stay
gateway as a testing ground for remaining in it is an idea
fast forge
if you pass the survival test, you stay, and its tartarus. if you dont pass, you...
why would they have two names for one island? that seems confusing
meager junco
Yeh basically gateway the map, let’s you have the gateway to Tartarus in a way, survive there, and you’re in Tartarus (I see what you’re saying jolly)
patent ginkgo
thanks
hexed forge
gateway as a testing ground for remaining in it is an idea
If it is a testing ground, why make all these different kind of bases across the map. Like offices
patent ginkgo
to monitor the assets perhaps
meager junco
I would say the bases are more just to keep everything in check, survey areas, the creatures, the environment
It’s not like we’re seeing dead Dino body bags in the bases so they weren’t killing nor hunting the creatures
(Even tho there’s a facility for that)
lethal moat
to monitor the assets perhaps
I’d say to monitor the assets is a solid guess, maybe to make slight changes or investigate special incidents
hexed forge
Hmmm
meager junco
At the end of the day, they need to maintain and keep the island steady and not fall apart , so bases make a lot of sense for just general checkups everywhere
hexed forge
It just feels weird for gateway to BE tartarus as a whole
fast forge
I agree
lethal moat
Gateway the island vs tartarus the facility
hexed forge
The relocation of employees to gateway then wouldn't make sense
hexed forge
The relocation of employees to gateway then wouldn't make sense
If the relocation is a punishment, then they would have very few working on gateway...
fast forge
Agree that gateway is tartarus as a whole or?
I agree it feels weird
acoustic osprey
I wouldn't say Gateway is Tartarus
hexed forge
Weo
acoustic osprey
The augustus video infers such
hexed forge
Does it?
Wait was Augustus the video that said about the relocation to tartarus for any disclosure of info
meager junco
Yis
hexed forge
Ah
hexed forge
If the relocation is a punishment, then they would have very few working on gate...
So yeah that ties into my statement here
It wouldn't make sense
meager junco
That was the whole level clearance 3 with a pass 5 keycard thing
lethal moat
Oh to have level 5 clearance 
fast forge
Perhaps tartarus is a state of existence. The punishment of being put into a non-human body and forced to be a test subject loose in their ecosystem. "Tartarus" could be akin to "The Wilds"
fast forge
That would explain why an EIP in a gen 2 body could be punished by "relocation" to tartarus, while also being a location in which Augustus replications "remain"
hexed forge
But then if that's the case the replicated herreras remaining in tartarus wouldn't mak- OOHHHHHHHHHH I SEE NOW
Ok now I'm lost
meager junco
We all are, tis the tale of lore
hexed forge
I understood the first part, you lost me on the second
fast forge
I'm just trying to reconcile these two versions of tartarus mentioned in the augustus video
meager junco
Any ideas are good ideas imo, rather theorize all day then argue with people
hexed forge
Hmm
hexed forge
That would explain why an EIP in a gen 2 body could be punished by "relocation" ...
I see now
We need more details on tartarus
fast forge
If we run with the theory that TOMB is the location where EIP's are held, and 174 "was selected by management for OLYMPUS relocation and entombment", perhaps the EIP inside Augustus got a promotion up to OLYMPUS? I dunno if I like this idea, but it is intriguing...
lethal moat
I think the tomb is more a storage for successful instances of EIPs rather than the EIPs themselves, that way AE can look back on what was successful and what wasn’t and change current EIPs to that, Olympus central control or the replicator seem better candidates for EIP management than the TOMB in my opinion
fast forge
fair
patent ginkgo
I think the tomb is more a storage for successful *instances of EIPs* rather tha...
My thoughts as well
fast forge
But what sticks for me is if hererra climbing is an anomalous trait, and EIP's are just a mind inside, how can you reward the mind for what is effectively a genetic trait (the emergent ability to climb)
Or rather, why would the EIP be the valuable part?
patent ginkgo
It could be the unique combination of mind and body
lethal moat
Or rather, why would the EIP be the valuable part?
Give it a better body, or maybe the EIP dictates how the replicator chooses to mutate things
fast forge
Or perhaps the EIP's are the only dinosaur parts of the dinosaur? Like, they found a way to pluck "souls" from the depths of time, and build a body around that.
So in this scenario, the real hererras in the Triassic could climb, AE pulls some of their souls out, but not all instincts from the original individual remain
acoustic osprey
But what sticks for me is if hererra climbing is an anomalous trait, and EIP's a...
To be fair though
It wasn't the physical ability to climb
But he grew the emergent behavioural ability to
fast forge
Is it? It seems pretty obvious for an animal to try to climb, if it has the capacity. I've seen dogs climb trees
I dunno, my realist tendencies see the ability to climb as a physical trait, requiring specific adaptations
acoustic osprey
Is it? It seems pretty obvious for an animal to try to climb, if it has the capa...
It was
meager junco
That’s why I find Augustus very strange, learns to climb(first to do it as well) then also attacks cameras
fast forge
Maybe they made these hererra bodies, and they put their Tartarus-relocated EIP's into them to figure out how they work, and the one that figured out how to climb gets a promotion?
lethal moat
Depends on the promotion, maybe there’s a hierarchy for what bodies EIPs are allowed to take, Herrera to Allo is a solid jump
As an example
fast forge
174/Augustus was selected for OLYMPUS relocation and entombment, not another body
meager junco
Depends on the promotion, maybe there’s a hierarchy for what bodies EIPs are all...
As much as people hate on it, progression would be the perfect mode for this
lethal moat
As much as people hate on it, progression would be the perfect mode for this
I like Filipe’s proposed idea of progression for apexes, especially when it comes to EIP development
meager junco
I like Filipe’s proposed idea of progression for apexes, especially when it come...
So hypers/neuros/tissos maybe even matriarch would just be the ultimate promotion in a way
fast forge
matriarch just feels like a runaway experiment
meager junco
I mean, she was a mistake in a way, wasn’t planned(as far as I know), she’s a byproduct of tisso research
Rump is gonna kill me for saying that
lethal moat
I mean, she was a mistake in a way, wasn’t planned(as far as I know), she’s a by...
She can be related to tisso and still be intentional, a “what if we do this” situation, more of an exploring avenues rather than total mistake 
fast forge
If the TOMB is like the svalbard seed vault, perhaps an EIP being put there is your ticket on the life raft, after global catastrophe? The guarantee that you are one of the lucky few that gets brought back
meager junco
She can be related to tisso and still be intentional, a “what if we do this” sit...
I SAID IN A WAYYYYYY!
But I do like the idea of a bunch of AE scientist doing tests on tisso just trying to make something out of it, and there she blossoms
lethal moat
Like troodon
lethal moat
meager junco
lethal moat
Nooooooooooo
meager junco
Wonder if that beetle is just a random thing tap did or if it’s like a special bug
Doesn’t have anything to do with the actual lore, but just found it cool
fast forge
Wonder if that beetle is just a random thing tap did or if it’s like a special b...
it's a kissing bug, a common biting insect in some parts of the world
meager junco
Wait
fast forge
they leave big welts when they bite you
meager junco
No way she did that
HA she put a kissing bug, beside matriarch, she has a kissing bug mouth
lethal moat
Mhm
fast forge
I imagine that, creatively, she wanted some bug features in there for creepiness, and it gives a way for a small bug to slowly extract dna from bigger and bigger animals
meager junco
It’s hard to tell from her concepts, we know in her art, that matriarch is made from tisso and hyper I believe? This isn’t canon ofc but I’ve always thought maybe there’s a little bit of indominus Rex in her, meaning, she has a bunch of Dino DNA already in her, she just evolves to different stages of it throughout her life
But in the art, matriarch was a complete disaster as well
lethal moat
It’s hard to tell from her concepts, we know in her art, that matriarch is made ...
Hyper for growth and size, tisso for adaptability I believe
meager junco
And ngl, I kind of think that’s still the case if she’s a massive creature, if not, most likely just tisso since they’re most likely keeping the “smaller than average dinosaur size” thing
lethal moat
We know tisso is for sure staying, it’s a matter of what else is in there, if anything, as well as what’s changing
lethal moat
So, we know gen 2 don’t come from gateway, what if they have pre-deployment missions before they get to gateway, on their original island, get a backpack, pack stuff in, fuel a vehicle, load a ship, and then have them shipped to the island all at once, or something along that vein, where you progress to the point where you then get to enter the real challenge
steel summit
So, we know gen 2 don’t come from gateway, what if they have pre-deployment miss...
i can believe that, but if so then gen 2 would of course need a few starting resources, you know like a bottle of water, a pack of provisions and a knife/machete of some kind
lethal moat
KA-BAR or a KB17 would be sick
steel summit
KA-BAR or a KB17 would be sick
(man i found nothing when searching for KB17, im guessing its a knife but ????)
lethal moat
(man i found nothing when searching for KB17, im guessing its a knife but ????)
You’re better off looking up Glock knife
I personally prefer it to the KA-BAR because of the serrated edge and it’s better balanced for throwing
steel summit
ah, KB17281
lethal moat
Yes
steel summit
when searching KB17 i found baseball bats
lethal moat
I’ll take that over nothing in a survival situation
lethal moat
Depends
steel summit
but the knife is more versatile
steel summit
Depends
lets say you're fighting idk a troodon, would you rather have the knife, or the bat
lethal moat
Bat
steel summit
against a person it depends on what they have, but the bat has better range than a knife
lethal moat
Once we get larger than say, a dilo, I’d swap to knife
steel summit
if you get a good hit the knife is more deadly, but a good smash on the head of a dilo is sure to cause damage (if not even knock it out)
but in general survival the knife is more useful
lethal moat
Mhm
steel summit
i do wonder what kind of melee weapons gen 2 will get
lethal moat
Crowbar seems like a good basic one to find in the dockyards
steel summit
a use of a crowbar rather than just weapon could be prying open locked doors and crates
lethal moat
Mhm
meager junco
Environmental items could be fun for Gen 2 as well, find a 2x4 and can use it as a hitting stick
lethal moat
fast forge
stone terrace
alr guys we have to determine what the mystery red juice is
lethal moat
A light?
stone terrace
oh
tropic saddle
lethal moat
So… either of you heard the tragedy of “The incident”?
hexed forge
If lore is lore, then what will lore be if lore lores because of the lore loring in the lore of lore. Wouldnt lore become the lorelore of lore?
Fantastic theory, Dondi should see it
fast forge
If lore is lore, then what will lore be if lore lores because of the lore loring...
A lore paradox
hexed forge
Best theory
lethal moat
fast forge
If lore is lore, then what will lore be if lore lores because of the lore loring...
low-res lore?
lowres
lowes
hexed forge
Lows? That one american hardware store!
hexed forge
I think my lore theory caused the lore discussion to die
lethal moat
Yep
lethal moat
Was it?
hexed forge
lethal moat
Nah
hexed forge
Aw
young viper
I think my lore theory caused the lore discussion to die
indeed
heady grove
GUYS
maybe the merc are robotx
bc if you kill 2 of them you dont get red eyes
but if you do 2 players
you do
so how is that???
iron anchor
what red eyes
patent ginkgo
I’m not sure I understand what you’re referencing
sonic rampart
by killing 2 people
This server is for The Isle, a dinosaur game on Steam. It's not for the Roblox game
meager junco
Favourite Fan made GIF
bronze socket
itsa a chat and sit simulation
patent ginkgo
Do you know the lore
fast forge
itsa a chat and sit simulation
legacy maybe, but that's not what they are referring to
bronze socket
legacy maybe, but that's not what they are referring to
not from my exp. people tend to just sit aroudn do nothing and complain when someone is playing the game like:
dont kill "insert dino" hes friendly
like i would care whos frndly xD
fast forge
not from my exp. people tend to just sit aroudn do nothing and complain when som...
yeah this gif is pointing at the fact that in the lore the "dinosaurs" aren't technically dinosaurs
bronze socket
yeah this gif is pointing at the fact that in the lore the "dinosaurs" aren't te...
hahah lol yea never thought bout it 😄
but my point is also valid imo at least 😄
lethal moat
People tend to be stinkers like that
hidden steppe
yeah this gif is pointing at the fact that in the lore the "dinosaurs" aren't te...
The dinosaurs aren't dinosaurs?!
lethal moat
The dinosaurs aren't dinosaurs?!
Nope
hidden steppe
What are they?
fast forge
tbh I have no idea how it works or any specifics, but the lore people who were here before me say they aren't
lethal moat
Genetic creations by a company that look very similar to dinosaurs, but aren’t quite clones
hidden steppe
Interesting...
hidden steppe
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/...
Thanks
lethal moat
We also have a lore server and a podcast if you’re interested
hidden steppe
I am
lethal moat
I’ll DM you an invite
hidden steppe
Troodon: Created from another dinosaur currently not in-game, a byproduct of an in-world character’s, “But what if we did this” to animal X…” -Dondi (Oct 25/26 2023)
There could be a "Troodon Overlord"?
lethal moat
A Doctor who created troodon could enjoy that title
hidden steppe
So the troodon was a mistake?
lethal moat
No, just a result of messing around with another dinosaur species
hidden steppe
No, just a result of messing around with another dinosaur species
Cool
And the next map is maybe going to be Tartarus?
lethal moat
Ehhhh, Tartarus could be it’s own map, but the popular theory is that it’s a massive underground facility beneath gateway
hidden steppe
Ehhhh, Tartarus could be it’s own map, but the popular theory is that it’s a mas...
Very cool
lethal moat
Mhm, the mystery of it all is very fun and infuriating at times
hidden steppe
I’ll DM you an invite
Could you perhaps send me the invitation pls?
lethal moat
Could you perhaps send me the invitation pls?
I messaged you privately
hidden steppe
Didn't get it...
lethal moat
Didn't get it...
I’ll try again
hidden steppe
Thx
lethal moat
Np
lethal moat
👍
hidden steppe
I am dumb...
fast forge
Genetic creations by a company that look very similar to dinosaurs, but aren’t q...
When/how did y'all find out the dinosaurs aren't technically dinosaurs? I'd love to see the original context for that
lethal moat
When/how did y'all find out the dinosaurs aren't technically dinosaurs? I'd love...
They’re a genetic engineering company, and they’re capable of creating new life forms, in addition to the existence of things being not accurate to their real life counterparts being able to explained as them not being dinosaurs, in short, we spun a messy web through logical connections mostly, unless someone else can find a better quote than me
fast forge
ty
patent ginkgo
also, dinos werent created jp style
my personal headcanon is that the replicator functions very much like an image generation ai, in that you give it a prompt and it spits out a genome that would result in an organism that fits the prompt. the prompt can then be refined over time through testing of the organism that the replicator "designed"
lethal moat
my personal headcanon is that the replicator functions very much like an image g...
I think it just changes what it’s given
lethal moat
Gimmie
meager junco
my personal headcanon is that the replicator functions very much like an image g...
I’m on a somewhat similar boat, gets a plan of the creature, creates it through the different facilities it’s connected to, then releases it either on the island or somewhere in the facilities
lethal moat
I can see the replicator adjusting blueprints, but not creating an entirely new creature by itself
meager junco
Yeh it needs guidance
I’d say AE probably puts in a sort of blueprint of the creature they want, all the way down to every single atom, and the replicator uses a sort of biomass to start making it
lethal moat
I want to know what sort of identifier a biotrace is
meager junco
I feel like we’ll get to know soon what biotrace is
hexed forge
Awesome theory time
If lore is lore, then what will lore be if lore lores because of the lore loring in the lore of lore. Wouldnt lore become the lorelore of lore?
Or wait, will this count against this channels rules? I mean, there is no convo going on rn.
hexed forge
mb
fast forge
I’d say AE probably puts in a sort of blueprint of the creature they want, all t...
in this regard, IRL we already have 3D printers that work with cells, printing things like hearts or other complex organs using cloned cells from the future patient
meager junco
in this regard, IRL we already have 3D printers that work with cells, printing t...
Yeh thanks I’m not exactly sure how it would work but this is probably not far off what it does
lethal moat
I can see it 3d printing an embryo, then nurturing it in a vat
lethal moat
I feel like we’ll get to know soon what biotrace is
My guess is in November for no reason whatsoever
meager junco
My guess is in November for no reason whatsoever
I’ll double down on that
fast forge
The thing about creating dinosaurs from scratch is that you wouldn't have any of their genes for things like adaptation to a mesozoic climate
they would be modern animals in an ecological sense, because their genetic makeup would be a Frankenstein's monster of genes from modern organisms
meager junco
Yeh they’re made to live in this day and age, it’s why it goes really deep when you say “they aren’t really dinosaurs”
lethal moat
The thing about creating dinosaurs from scratch is that you wouldn't have any of...
Which is why you design them to deal with the future climate, rather than a past one
If the ultimate goal is to future proof earth, than what you need will be able to survive the future
Wow, that was such a smart sentence, go Rumple
fast forge
Which is why you design them to deal with the future climate, rather than a past...
yes, but then that doesn't answer the "why dinosaurs" question
meager junco
Maybe the climate change will make earth more like the Mesozoic era?
fast forge
Also the ecosystem during Herrera's time period (the triassic) was VASTLY different from the ecosystem of Triceratops (cretaceous). I think even the atmospheric composition was different?
So the idea that recreating dinosaurs because a post-climate change world is closer to the dinosaur time is shaky
young viper
717
meager junco
Yeh If it isn’t for the actual climate, then it’s something else that dinosaurs have that modern animals don’t , which is very hard to know about an extinct animal lol
young viper
10 17
hexed forge
Whats my subject
meager junco
The fences you spent a week on you nerd
hexed forge
Oh
hexed forge
717
So theorized to be some other way of expressing certain sectors. 717 being the entire east coast, 10 17 being the upper river area
fast forge
So the idea that recreating dinosaurs because a post-climate change world is clo...
I dunno maybe I'm going too far science brain again, and it's just another sci-fi thing
meager junco
No it’s all good, I like to hear what the realistic situation would be
patent ginkgo
we know don likes to do his research with some of these things, as when i asked him about botany lore he said he needed to do a bit of research on it before deciding specifics
so going in-depth probably wont hurt, especially with such a core thing as this
meager junco
I do see what tiny is saying tho, at the end of the day, it is a video game, and can have things that don’t make sense realistically
hexed forge
Strain biomes Weooo
patent ginkgo
I do see what tiny is saying tho, at the end of the day, it is a video game, and...
yeah, like the map foliage stuff
meager junco
We’ve gotten so deep in the lore, we forgot why we even got this game, to play as Dino
hexed forge
icy onyx
New lore?
lethal moat
I mean, if they make plants hyper efficient at converting carbon dioxide to Oxygen, you can then create a more resilient ecosystem that requires more oxygen, like megafauna
icy onyx
fast forge
where was it located?
fast forge
If we take it to mean C-17 by our map, that would put it in NE Plains
meager junco
I mean, if they make plants hyper efficient at converting carbon dioxide to Oxyg...
Me and jolly had a similar theory not long ago
fast forge
I mean, if they make plants hyper efficient at converting carbon dioxide to Oxyg...
realistically, the constraining factor on size in vertebrates isn't oxygen levels, it's things like niche availability, food availability, physical constraints (i.e. bones can only hold so much weight), and evolutionary inertia (it takes a bit to evolve big animals, even when the other factors are there)
lethal moat
All of which artificial environment creation would create
fast forge
my point is, increased oxygen levels aren't important, even with that stuff accounted for
it would make a difference for insects, however
patent ginkgo
Also it seems AE decided that fighting climate change was a lost cause, so higher oxygen levels probably are the opposite of what’s going on
fast forge
in fact, archosaurs and birds have the most efficient respiratory systems, so they'd need the least consideration (part of why you see more birds at high elevations than other animals - also the whole powered flight thing)
hexed forge
If we take it to mean C-17 by our map, that would put it in NE Plains
10/C 17 is in the riverdelta jungle
717 are the gates seperated the east coast and NE grassland
fast forge
10/C 17 is in the riverdelta jungle
okay, so it doesn't match our map at all
hexed forge
Yep lol, thats why I think its a 0
fast forge
(for reference, pretty sure Isaac made this)
Based on looks I'm leaning more towards C than 0, but it's only like 65/35 for me
acoustic osprey
yes, I made that one
but it's replicated exactly from the official version
fast forge
yes, I made that one
but it's replicated exactly from the official version
the lat/long or the topography?
fast forge
mostly just trying to decide if it's pre or post QoL update
I don't think I see the new coastal sanctuary?
acoustic osprey
i mean, what's going to differ
fast forge
and there is no opening on top of the volcano (although I dunno if that would show)
acoustic osprey
the actual base of the map hasn't changed from the QoL update
it's not supposed to showcase newer stuff (this map) but showcase anything lore accurate
to use as navigation is fine
but I'm not giving anyone "X and Y" coordinates for locations
only the grid system and locations of buildings
acoustic osprey
and there is no opening on top of the volcano (although I dunno if that would sh...
there isn't in the image
it's just darker due to contrast via the effects
fast forge
yeah it was just a curiosity, wondering if they had used the hordetest version to make the map
acoustic osprey
to be fair, the original map of the dibble video uses a very 8bit-esque filter
so the specifics of the map can't really be seen
fast forge
yeah
acoustic osprey
besides the obvious overlay of the grids
fast forge
your version is surprisingly detailed, did you just overlay all the images?
acoustic osprey
the image, itself, is just from the lastest evrima build (not Hordetesting)
fast forge
I see
acoustic osprey
as it's just a reimagined 4K version of the lower quality bittier map
but for the purpose of that map, being a grid map.
Everything is the same. Matched up pretty perfectly
snow jasper
lethal moat
Now that we have the dibble video, we can begin conspiring about the next lore video
lethal moat
The Shadow?
snow jasper
Theres ample evidence besides the shadow
acoustic osprey
and Dondi quote
snow jasper
and ample evidence to prove the shadow was a rex
snow jasper
and Dondi quote
What quote 😧
acoustic osprey
also with the Rex reference in Augustus
i wouldn't be surprised if it was a Rex in this video
acoustic osprey
What quote 😧
forgot which one
but it basically dismissed Allo indirectly
snow jasper
hell yeah
acoustic osprey
Now that we have the dibble video, we can begin conspiring about the *next* lore...
honestly, it'll likely be one of the next planned creatures
I wouldn't be surprised IF it was Rex (Shirley)
having a spotlight would be really interesting
two references would make sense for it to be her. Make a proper lore spotlight
lethal moat
snow jasper
Third time `s a charm
acoustic osprey
mmmm
meager junco
The Shadow?
hexed forge
I would love a lore video about pachy and/or raptor. Pachy having incredible aggressive behavior. And Raptor, as we know it. Has some lore behind it.
snow jasper
Technically already a pachy video
acoustic osprey
erm ^
hexed forge
That video barely count as a lore video
acoustic osprey
erm
hexed forge
Pretty sure there is nothing there Canon to the lore 🤔
meager junco
hexed forge
it's one of our proper first lore videos for Evrima
But is there any Canon lore?
acoustic osprey
in what
acoustic osprey
i mean
nothing really is not canon from it
snow jasper
spiro
acoustic osprey
heck, a lot of us want to say Spiro is not canon
but it's never really be said nor stated
hexed forge
Hmmm
hexed forge
Hmmm, didn't dondi say that they might go back and remake the pachy video? Would be interesting to see it on gateway with the up-to-date lore
acoustic osprey
i'm pretty sure, yes
hexed forge
acoustic osprey
but he never really said was wasn't hard canon and what was
painfully
i presume it still meant the Pachy video
and, hopefully, ALL the old trailcams
if not.
I mean. lorecord time
Hacker perfected the style shown in the videos
I can also imitate it
hexed forge
Ceratosaurus lore video 
acoustic osprey
so
we could take it to our own hands
heck, make our own little headcanon lore stuff.
meager junco
Would like to see seizas takes on every animal in a video at some point, she makes great stuff
acoustic osprey
Less extreme than Apollo Files- doing their own lore and what not
hexed forge
Hacker has some insane skill, wouldn't be surprised if he got hired as the second video editor for the videos.
snow jasper
I‘ve been meaning to make a fanfiction going off of everything we currently know about the lore atm
acoustic osprey
Would like to see seizas takes on every animal in a video at some point, she mak...
aye, looking at the dibble video vs augustus video
Which are pretty different- so I do hope this variation is sustained
meager junco
aye, looking at the dibble video vs augustus video
Which are pretty different- s...
Definitely
She just captures the field research recording thing so well
hexed forge
I wonder what beipi would be? Beipi develops eating habits of underwater foliage? Would be a nice video/teaser for the mechanic.
snow jasper
High quality trail camera versus low quality gate camera
hexed forge
And then maybe include bary and austro in the mix of beipi
Austro hunting fish>a beipi flock make it run> bary comes in at the end
meager junco
I mean we’ll definitely get feature Dino’s, for example, dibble video had dibble, shadow Dino, troodon, omnis and dilos
Oh and compys but yeh
hexed forge
Austro hunting fish>a beipi flock make it run> bary comes in at the end
Each dino showcases a new aquatic mechanic. Would be a very nice mix
lethal moat
I want another serious mention of tartarus
meager junco
I feel like teno should be used more often, just cause it’s seen as the regular herbi in the isle now
patent ginkgo
I think we all know what I want in future lore videos
acoustic osprey
I want another serious mention of tartarus
hexed forge
https://tenor.com/view/sad-meet-the-robinsons-upset-sob-bowler-hat-guy-gif-80743...
What movie is this from?
patent ginkgo
Lots of plants. A greenhouse trailcam
Something on the botany sector specifically would be
meager junco
What movie is this from?
Boltz? Or blitz?
acoustic osprey
what
patent ginkgo
What movie is this from?
Meet the Robinsons
meager junco
I forget which
acoustic osprey
Meet the Robinsons
^
hexed forge
Something on the botany sector *specifically* would be <:TI_Perfect:735343168555...
Hypsi breaks into the botany sector. Relocation back to tartarus
meager junco
Oh yeh nvm
acoustic osprey
hexed forge
Hypsi breaks into the botany sector. Relocation back to tartarus
A way to show off its climbing mechanic perhapss
meager junco
https://tenor.com/view/disney-bolt-super-dog-cute-gif-12503231
Yes my bad, I was thinking of this
acoustic osprey
lol
patent ginkgo
Hypsi breaks into the botany sector. Relocation back to tartarus
It only wanted the premium mangoes!
lethal moat
It only wanted the premium mangoes!
Traitorous scum
patent ginkgo
lethal moat
acoustic osprey
done the oranges
not sure which is better though
fallow harbor
done the oranges
not sure which is better though
left
fallow harbor
the glitched one?
yes
acoustic osprey
ok thank you
patent ginkgo
Thanks for the oranges
acoustic osprey
orange!
acoustic osprey
same
hexed forge
hexed forge
https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-plink-cat-gif-1794292671885121408
Hello there
||WHERE IS LEGO FILIPE!!?!?||
young viper
Hello there
||**WHERE IS LEGO FILIPE!!?!?**||
hexed forge
swift echo
Hello there
||**WHERE IS LEGO FILIPE!!?!?**||
gone
patent ginkgo
No clue
hexed forge
What is that
fallow harbor
What is that
im asking the same question
hexed forge
ohhh
patent ginkgo
Cause there’s a faint red glow
fallow harbor
fallow harbor
u can see it better on the left
hexed forge
patent ginkgo
Do we have a way to tell how big those things are?
fallow harbor
Do we have a way to tell how big those things are?
prolly not
hexed forge
patent ginkgo
Like comparing them to the squares or smth
fallow harbor
maybe watchtowers or dock pillars ?
hexed forge
The light is certainly not coming from them. Its from above
Atleast it looks like it
hexed forge
mmmmmm
If not, my second option would be that its a metal door
They look like metal doors now
Okay now I have no idea
fast forge
Like comparing them to the squares or smth
the squares are used in game development to easily tell sizes of game objects, so yeah, if we compared it to other dev stuff we could get a size
meager junco
At work rn but here hope this helps
fallow harbor
At work rn but here hope this helps
rex is like 4-6 of those squares high eyeballing it
knotty locust
those squares have measurements in their corners
meager junco
those squares have measurements in their corners
Yeh that’s why I was hoping they’d help but they are different as you said
fast forge
yeah it looks more like the squares you see when the game textures glitch out
meager junco
yeah it looks more like the squares you see when the game textures glitch out
Iirc, those squares are quite small correct?
fast forge
here we go, found a screenshot
wouldn't be surprised if those are cubic meter squares
fast forge
So they’re more like watchtowers than a huge tall building
no they are small
yeah, they might be trash cans
meager junco
Oh wait I didn’t look at that pachy image too well, they seemed bigger for a second
fast forge
Did D10 always have a bridge?
patent ginkgo
D10? i dont even remember that being there
meager junco
It’s that base not far from water access
patent ginkgo
dont think ive ever been there
meager junco
Really?
patent ginkgo
OH WAIT
fast forge
I think it's the most overgrown by vegetation
fast forge
no
meager junco
It’s in a jungle and and it’s kind of on a cliff but not really
fast forge
that's H5
patent ginkgo
is it the one thats north of northeast
fast forge
meager junco
Best way I can describe it, it’s the base that’s just west of water access
patent ginkgo
huh i dont hink ive been there
meager junco
If you follow the road,it leads you to it
fast forge
not much to it really, just an overgrown base in the jungle. Kinda neat layout though
meager junco
huh i dont hink ive been there
Ik what you’re doing next time you’re hopping on the isle
meager junco
not much to it really, just an overgrown base in the jungle. Kinda neat layout t...
I like it for screenshots
patent ginkgo
im already on the isle!
fast forge
yeah it's good looking, just out on the edge of the map
meager junco
It’s got a helipad btw jolly
patent ginkgo
but next time i wander that way ill be taking screenshots there if i can
meager junco
If that helps jog your memory
meager junco
I’m very surprised you haven’t seen it yet, especially since you got admin on a server
fast forge
very pretty, but no players
meager junco
I found it when gateway dropped, just cause exploring the map for the first time was the best experience I’ve had in years on the isle
fast forge
I was finding goats and boars there on HT, fwiw
meager junco
So I found everything or mostly everything in the first week or so
hexed forge
Hold on
young viper
Did D10 always have a bridge?
that seems new
fast forge
that seems new
I vaguely remember it, and someone else said they remembered it, I think I was just mistaken
meager junco
I remember it all the way back in December so it’s been there for quite a while , I just can’t remember if it was in gateway release
Plus no one ever comes from the west side into that base, 99% of people come from water access
fallow harbor
Did D10 always have a bridge?
yes
snow jasper
Did D10 always have a bridge?
Yes
oof, alrady answered, seemed like it was the most recent message
fast forge
Did D10 always have a bridge?
yes
acoustic osprey
Did D10 always have a bridge?
Yes
fast forge
Just for safe measure,
Yes
you forgot to reply to my post
hexed forge
Hmmm
lethal moat
Monorail my beloved
meager junco
you forgot to reply to my post
acoustic osprey
you forgot to reply to my post
to be fair
i woke up and opened my phone to that message. Lol, I didn't realise
fast forge
I think that happened to everyone
acoustic osprey
honestly
they could be the vat models more finalised now?
The floor is the just a typical untextured grid
and they look box-like
hexed forge
honestly
they could be the vat models more finalised now?
The floor is the just...
Ohh possible, I think its a trashbin. The light doesnt look like its coming from the objects.
acoustic osprey
possibly
fast forge
does look like a trashbin to me
hybrid wagon
Vis just dropped it
where was it dropped discussion?
patent ginkgo
ye
hexed forge
Oooo, I like it red. Not sure about what others think.
I think its better to keep it as original to the video as possible.
acoustic osprey
aye, I like it red as well.
This is basically version we have of that (in terms of the screenshot)
lethal moat
I think that’s the negative coloration of what it originally was
acoustic osprey
i think it is, but I like red
hexed forge
Hmmm, what do you mean?
lethal moat
i think it is, but I like red
You make an excellent argument sir
lethal moat
Hmmm, what do you mean?
It’s originally blue, but the glitchiness made it superimpose as the opposite color
hexed forge
Oh, I thought it was originally red.
acoustic osprey
NOOOOO
young viper
lethal moat
Oh, I thought it was originally red.
That’s my assumption, not a confirmed thing, just because of how the coloration is inconsistent with everything else
lethal moat
2172 <:TI_Troll:472576085482143745>
I’m slowly warming up to that date
hexed forge
That’s my assumption, not a confirmed thing, just because of how the coloration ...
Hmm, what I thought at first was that the reason its in red was because it was an urgent message?
Wait no, idk if that makes sense..
lethal moat
It doesn’t exactly scream urgency
hexed forge
Basically it was edited into the found footage to add more "context?"
Idk what im talking about lol, nvm
lethal moat
I very much doubt that, just think it’s glitchiness
lethal moat
hexed forge
acoustic osprey
with or without the border?
hexed forge
I dont see the difference
acoustic osprey
the border of the globe
snow jasper
oUTLINE
hexed forge
Ohhh with
acoustic osprey
with or without, what looks better?
hexed forge
With the outline
snow jasper
I disagree
acoustic osprey
Ohhh with
https://gyazo.com/f9125751a625bcb324d191ff1b13df4a
however the original has no outline
young viper
with or without, what looks better?
without
snow jasper
2 to 1
acoustic osprey
i feel like it's cleaner without
but it feels more proper with
hexed forge
https://gyazo.com/f9125751a625bcb324d191ff1b13df4a
however the *original* has no...
Yes, with!
young viper
Without the outside line it gives a hologram feeling
acoustic osprey
Yes, with!
sorry
original does not have an outline
hexed forge
sorry
original does not have an outline
Oh
young viper
ha
acoustic osprey
sorry, I'm tired still lol
hexed forge
Without then, I like it towards the original side.
acoustic osprey
Without then, I like it towards the original side.
I'm making the "Red version"
and I'm also going to create a 2nd "Blue tab" version to fit the slideshow format
young viper
I'm making the "Red version"
and I'm also going to create a 2nd "Blue tab" versi...
And then create a big book telling the entire story/lore of the Isle detail by detail, word by word, with everything that happened since the beginning, showing us all the truth that we still don't know, So we can be happy again...
acoustic osprey
And then create a big book telling the entire story/lore of the Isle detail by d...
i still need to do my Dibble video lol
hexed forge
i still need to do my Dibble video lol
jesus are you even close to finishing the script?
Atleast 50% done? Maybe
acoustic osprey
ho ho no
lethal moat
Lightclaw puts in a bunch of effort
acoustic osprey
here would be the media player version
lethal moat
hexed forge
hexed forge
fallow harbor
with or without the border?
without or have a different outline