isle-lore-theories

[lethal moat]

It’s not just camera footage, there’s the map, the nutrient breakdown, the title, etc, which means it is likely a “standard” compiled video, that got damaged somehow in transit, however that transit was done

[devout cradle]

where do i report a bug? found a buggy rock on
171,960.95, -252,061.105, 30,583.605

[scarlet verge]

#🐞-evrima-bug-reports-🐞 message

[fast forge]

At one point he basically said that the shadow's identity is the most obvious choice, and that all the speculation was a bit silly

It's rex, sorry

[lethal moat]

The obvious choice is the friends we made along the way

[swift echo]

nah bro its n spino

[lethal moat]

Anyway, if AE’s primary focus is “climate change management” then retaking the island could both be necessary for the continuation of life and/or an experiment to see how humans would fare in the changed world, using gen 2 as test subjects

[hexed forge]

Possibly

[hexed forge]

N-Rex

[lethal moat]

That wouldn’t answer why dinosaurs, but it could be why they’re “unfortunate but necessary” since they would be better suited for that environment in theory

[meager junco]

Would be neat if the actual plot of why Gen 2 is trying to retake the islands, is because time is almost up for the human race and most living creatures

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[meager junco]

Maybe you were right, maybe the eclipse was a sign

[lethal moat]

I don’t remember saying that

[meager junco]

Atchoo

[hexed forge]

@livid shard You are still here

[lethal moat]

That was a joke

[meager junco]

Ik you nerd

[lethal moat]

[meager junco]

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401480390528729091/1081008629047627807/IMG_1332.gif

[meager junco]

Ok lore topic, so just for the sake of conversation, let’s say the Dino is not Rex (not trying to start a debate here) what’s your other guesses

[lethal moat]

Cerato

A big one

[hexed forge]

My cousin weighs 8 tons

I agree, totally him in the dibble video

[lethal moat]

Alberto is maybe the only other large thing that looks like it could be a scavenger

[robust ether]

Hyper cerato*

I can't spell :[

[hexed forge]

My final answer is that its Rex, my hopeful answer is that Its N rex

[robust ether]

N rex?

[hexed forge]

Neuro rex

[lethal moat]

Neurotenic

[robust ether]

Honestly forgot about neuros there

[hexed forge]

I probably misunderstood, but, Dondi said all of our guesses are incorrect. But one is technically close. Right?

N rex!!

[meager junco]

Hyper Rex is mine and yes ig it counts as Rex but just cause it’s a possibility that the model is made, just hasn’t been shown nor worked on really yet

[lethal moat]

I don’t think they’d introduce strains this early is my main reasoning

We haven’t heard anything about it

[hexed forge]

I mean, true, but really it could just be a rex model behind the screen but classified as a N rex on the video.

[lethal moat]

Although, introducing it with lots of speculation would be pretty on-brand for the isle

[meager junco]

I mean

Remember steam isle trailer

[hexed forge]

Weo

[meager junco]

Hyper Rex pops up just randomly at the end

Like “nah this my meal, and you as well”

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-matter-care-peaceful-laid-gif-22992945

[hexed forge]

I love how gateway is turning out. Truly one of the best maps in Isle history.

[meager junco]

It’s very possible, just cause something hasnt been heard/talked about with the devs, doesn’t mean they aren’t getting small touch ups or even getting worked(I’m not saying if hyper Rex is being worked on its full on everything, I just mean like model, textures, skin concepts, sound ideas(if not made))

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-alec-guinness-obi-wan-kenobi-serious-think-gif-5199304

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message This is a fun thing

[acoustic osprey]

hmm interesting

[meager junco]

Oh yes forgot to mention since I was at work, with this, it makes sense that EIPS are back, meaning EIPs might be the ultimate back up plan, if the human body truly can’t adapt, than at least they’ll have their minds saved somewhere safe

[patent ginkgo]

a stasis of a sort

[lethal moat]

I am already saved, for the machine is immortal.
Even in death, I serve the omnissiah.

[meager junco]

Mhm, either they’re using the Dino’s because they’re truly the only thing that will survive, or, Dino’s are the key to saving humanity

[hexed forge]

Has anyone checked if the Volcano had any possible cave paintings?

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/pls-god-strike-this-individual-down-strike-down-god-kanye-kanye-cat-gif-9334290556842141514

Omg I didn’t see the top part lol

Ignore that , I was actually praising it

[lethal moat]

[meager junco]

Damn you discord

[lethal moat]

I cannot forgive you for this

[meager junco]

But yeh I’m down for EIPs being the ultimate backup plan

[lethal moat]

Same, it creates repeatable experiment subjects that can give feedback on various things, and is a safety net agains accidents

[meager junco]

That makes me wonder

[acoustic osprey]

mans last chance in saving themselves

[meager junco]

Is Gen 1/2 immune to hazardous climate

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/final-countdown-countdown-europe-counting-music-video-gif-4789617

[lethal moat]

I would assume at least partially resistant

[acoustic osprey]

probably not hazardous
but I'd imagine possibly internally capable in harder condition

[meager junco]

The only thing is there’s nothing in gen 2s that seems to show they have this immunity(at least not something seen under the human eye but rather under a microscope )but Gen 1 tho, I can very much see it

[acoustic osprey]

I do wonder how much of the mind is tempered within a Gen2
in terms of advanced cognition though

[meager junco]

Yeh like just much hotter/colder

Maybe thinner air but I’m pretty sure all creatures would suffer from that lol

[hexed forge]

We are talking about immunity eh? Well, let me propose with a theory.

Troodon is immune to some form of level of radiation. Possibly can be inferred with the halloween art.

[meager junco]

Maybe

[acoustic osprey]

or the radio waves are that powerful

[hexed forge]

Si

[meager junco]

Gen 1 is outside field work, you can adapt to the environments, and Gen 2 is for inside work , basically the scientists

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 might just be their own thing, new creatures, rather than a part of EIP program

We don't know what EIPs apply to

[meager junco]

Yeh I’m just doing a convo where let’s say everything made by AE/Replicator is able to have an EIP transferred/inserted in them

[hybrid wagon]

So is the replicator refusing to let AE stop it from making gen 1

[patent ginkgo]

dunno

[sick pond]

Has alberto ever been in development or maybe allo because I’ve never heard anything about there development?

[swift echo]

😒

[fast forge]

Are you familiar with SCP-2000?

This reminds me of that

It's basically a reset button for humanity, but it always struck me as a little too clean
If we are seeing a similar situation with AE, I expect things to be a bit more messy

[fast forge]

So what lore, don?

[crisp raven]

Horde wen

[hexed forge]

Indeed, what lore?

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

FENCE LORE @young viper

Talk about the fence lore and dondi might actually say something about it

[crisp raven]

The Horde needs to become real

[young viper]

HUH?

[hexed forge]

Dondi is typing

[patent ginkgo]

hi don

[acoustic osprey]

the aquatic fence thingo?

[hexed forge]

Nonono, let me ping you in the msgs.

[acoustic osprey]

ah ok

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey From here

[young viper]

It would be funny if he talked about some lore that we don't know yet

[crisp raven]

broken fences lore

[hexed forge]

And also the link above in Owens msg is helpful too to get context

[fast forge]

he did say he was actively working on something

[young viper]

dont remember me of that

[crisp raven]

most of gateway seems cut into sectors

[hexed forge]

Don is typing for awhile.

[acoustic osprey]

oh no, my lore video
but i don't really see the context of such though? (the fence)

[young viper]

Dondi lore wall?

[acoustic osprey]

isn't that always?

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey Maybe this? Not sure, it was a few hours ago. I dont remember

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[fast forge]

might just be picking words carefully

[acoustic osprey]

ah

[pseudo fable]

The event doesn't have a name yet. I'd love for it to have one but I'm just not catching that right vibe with anything on what to call it.

I've done a standard brief timeline of technological advances that AE makes and when/where that provokes exterior hostile entities. I'm outlining the ordeal of hostile entities pulling a very successful operation against AE itself.

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, it's a bit of worldbuilding if it is on purpose, Cerato

[hexed forge]

Yeah I hope its not the "Just gameplay details so players dont have to go around the entire fence" card

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/very-interesting-obi-wan-gif-12598721020509507144

[lethal moat]

So by hostile entities, I'm assuming there are multiple types? Not just one rival company or something?

[robust ether]

I love how active this channel gets when devs even look at it

[knotty locust]

whats the event called when catholicism/christianity did a massive split?

religious schism or something?

[hexed forge]

What

[pseudo fable]

I've done a lot that probably won't make the cut into the game because... in reality where does it even really go

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/tell-us-more-willy-wonka-sarcastic-listening-gif-787727691108504837

[acoustic osprey]

it's called the great schism
it occurred due to many internal reasons

[knotty locust]

yeag

[pseudo fable]

But also, yes. Eventually.

[knotty locust]

maybe relevant to AE............

[valid geyser]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dennis-nedry-jurassic-park-wayne-knight-gif-24822846

[hexed forge]

So rival companies are canon?

[acoustic osprey]

AE's own very dodgson(s)

[young viper]

I have a question, we know that the replicator is an AI, BUT I really wanted to know the physical form, a machine? If so, what does it look like?

[lethal moat]

Fair, I have a problem when writing of making things too simplistic, point A to point B style writing, it's boring, but then I overcorrect and go the opposite direction, it's always a hassle

[acoustic osprey]

will that aspect of "not making into the game" also affect more internal stuff like lore-related official videos and the like?

[oblique surge]

Finally PI strikes back to recover their stuff

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, linear story telling can be good.
But it's especially harder in stuff like a video game that doesn't revolve it's gameplay with story

[hexed forge]

Wait so are rival companies canon or not, on one side its not coming to the game but on the other side its eventually coming to the game... what

I am very confused.

[knotty locust]

good

[lethal moat]

Story making isn't my thing until I decide to start hurting people's feelings by getting them attached to characters specifically for bad things to happen

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
potentially

[hexed forge]

He does not say potentially.

[sonic rampart]

Something can be canon to the lore without explicitly existing in game

[acoustic osprey]

potentially as in Don said eventually to multiple types but not explicitly saying explicitly "rival companies"

[knotty locust]

like how abraham lincoln invented rocketjumping but isnt part of TF2

[acoustic osprey]

point and shoot, Errant-291
but that's not really the issue there to a degree

[robust ether]

TF2 TI crossover would go crazy

[fast forge]

Are any of these "hostile entities" nations, perhaps?

[acoustic osprey]

Cera comments on two things.
"X" thing can be canon to the lore in general
but "X" thing coming to the game or not

[hexed forge]

So its canon. Eventually

[robust ether]

Until now we've just assumed AE was some uber massive mega corp. that controls everything and has no rivals right?

[acoustic osprey]

provokes exterior hostile entities
May or may not be 'companies' or may not be just companies

[lethal moat]

Megacorp for Apollo, yes, the other stuff is just guesswork

[fast forge]

kinda my thought, why I asked about nations

[robust ether]

👍

[acoustic osprey]

oh wait
Don basically said inverse operation inferno

[hexed forge]

But then rumple mentioned companies specifically. Which dondi answered with eventually.

[acoustic osprey]

we know Don has talked about their connection to companies and not having "the choice"
maybe potential AE puppet (state) company?

[fast forge]

Or maybe even.. the UN?

[acoustic osprey]

what's the UN gonna do

unless you slap on it "Sci-fi UN"

[hexed forge]

We theorized how some nations could probably be funding Apollo right?

[acoustic osprey]

then you can get a bit scared

[fast forge]

nothing, but they can rouse countries with real power to action

[valid geyser]

Idk much about ae, but what’re the chances a hostile entity is also some sorta inside trouble
Oh no! This employee with a lotta.. idk.. fancy clearances did some stuff

[oblique surge]

They definitely have either rivals or someone/some group wanting in on their stuff
You don’t get an organization this big and technologically pretty successful without others wanting it all for themselves

[patent ginkgo]

hmm

[acoustic osprey]

"funding"

[acoustic osprey]

"oh no, X country. Don't do this!"

[pseudo fable]

I don't really get in to that.

[fast forge]

fair enough

[young viper]

#isle-lore-theories message

[hexed forge]

Supplies, money, anything really.

[acoustic osprey]

"funding" as in funding
wink wink, nudge nudge

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-mp-nudge-nudge-python4life-gif-9708071

[lethal moat]

Lobbying?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ryan-gosling-critics-choice-awards-side-eye-confused-clapping-gif-14741917063569043913

[acoustic osprey]

wink wink nudge nudge

[acoustic osprey]

it's certainly a potential
No man is perfect. You give a man power and money, you'll see how they use it soon enough

[lethal moat]

My philosophy professor brought up a question today that really put that into focus for me

[acoustic osprey]

and looking at it being a company.
The potential could certainly be high

a company is flawed? You've just given some characteristics to this company that make it realistic.
Maybe it's not the aim. But it's something very interesting you could definitely think about

[pseudo fable]

The physical part of what you would expect to be the Replicator has a decided physical form, yes. It probably wouldn't be seen. But it's in notes. It has a concept that's been made.

It has no place in the game islands.

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

[hexed forge]

A finished concept "art?"

[young viper]

It would actually be interesting to see the concept

[lethal moat]

It's also significantly easier to sway a single person than a group of people

[hexed forge]

#isle-phase-three

[acoustic osprey]

I'd say yes and no

[young viper]

?

[hexed forge]

Not on the islands... hmm........Then what are the gen 1s doing on gateway?

They sacrifice it specifically to the replicator right?

[lethal moat]

Who ever said gen 1 were on gateway?

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-shrek-meme-shrek-good-question-good-question-gif-7176451729184982026

[robust ether]

[hexed forge]

So you are saying they would just be disabled ingame

Or just the gen1s ingame will have no gameplay related to lore

[acoustic osprey]

to the replicator
doesn't have to mean to it's physical location and body

look at Hellenistic cults. They never gave items to Apollo himself, etc.
Of course, that's more mythology than physically knowing who and what made you

depending on how much Gen1s know about the replicator

[hexed forge]

Ahh I see... so a possible shrine on gateway?

[acoustic osprey]

we still have a few old artworks with tribal art at CCTVs

[lethal moat]

I'm saying, not everything is on the same island at the same time, maybe gen 1 aren't designed for the gateway map, but rather a different one

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message ^

[young viper]

cannibals...

[hexed forge]

I see

[hexed forge]

[robust ether]

omnomnomnom

[lethal moat]

Which are canon until they aren't

[acoustic osprey]

so the motifing and symbolisation of the replicator can be through CCTVs
or just simply on altars with mini-symbols

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/kcorp-nearuda-karmine-gif-25253617

[acoustic osprey]

i mean still.
It's a minor aspect we've seen a few times

doesn't have to be canon but the idea is there.
And exists in the modern and classical word

[acoustic osprey]

seeing as we know altars were one way of sacrificing a few years back

[lethal moat]

My main concern is how much about the replicator has changed from legacy to Evrima

[hexed forge]

Isaacs theory seems more reasonable. Because then we would have to wait for a whole different map for gen 1

[young viper]

It would be interesting to post the concept in #isle-phase-three or even here, since we won't see it in the game

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, that artwork was shown in late 2020 as an actual modelled thing on recode

[hexed forge]

Hmmm

[hexed forge]

It has now became an automaton from HD2 making its own army to take over superearth

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't limit Gen1s nor Gen2s to once place
but that depends on the actual RnD abilities of each island

[lethal moat]

I'm going to try to not have expectations because my poor emotions can't handle anything

[acoustic osprey]

Gateway was special in Legacy
I imagine the same in Evrima as well

connecting itself to Tartarus

[hexed forge]

So in short, Gen1s were made on a whole different island?

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
heck
what if Gen1s weren't put on Gateway by AE
what if it was some sort of operation?

[pseudo fable]

Only if you don't see it in a game.

[oblique surge]

Well I imagine its called Gateway for a reason!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-overly-sensitive-like-rest-gif-22304430

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-wait-what-wut-wtf-nani-gif-25479769

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/loki-alligator-growl-gif-22314724

[acoustic osprey]

depends on where Gen1s are made.
Do they need the physical body of The Replicator to be made?

[oblique surge]

“a game” huh
The isle franchise confirmed??? Can’t wait for the sports spin-off game

[acoustic osprey]

if so
wouldn't that also mean there is some sort of "Isla Sorna" for AE then?

[hexed forge]

Raptors vs rugops football

[hexed forge]

Spero!

[acoustic osprey]

kill!!

[hexed forge]

Thanks

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[acoustic osprey]

this island could potentially be named in the like of Olympus or Chaos

[hexed forge]

Chaos? Why chaos

[lethal moat]

I haven't seen enough on Gen 1 to assume enough about anything, so I'm going to hold out for now, and make hesitent theories

[acoustic osprey]

Chaos is the beginning and the end

[pseudo fable]

It's not a confirmation. It's just definitely something that has to appear if we do something else.

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/i-request-elaboration-white-vision-paul-bettany-wandavision-i-want-an-explanation-gif-22928362

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-god-of-war-gif-11309961016585129914

[hexed forge]

A campaign style game that is basically a storymode of isle lore 🙏

Wait, is that a good idea?

[young viper]

oh boy 🙏

[oblique surge]

I see!
I hope we do get to see it some day, maybe even interact directly with it

[acoustic osprey]

Don has talked about it once or twice.
Never a confirmation, of course

[hexed forge]

Nice

[acoustic osprey]

heck, if so, I might hand in my young resume

[hexed forge]

Hmmmmmm?

[oblique surge]

The Isle: Story Mode and its the same game that was planned at the very beginning

[young viper]

^ i know it can be hard, but pls Dondi🙏

[lethal moat]

I do wonder if the isle will be finished and done or if it will have active support after finished

[acoustic osprey]

acting, would love to do such if ever became a possibility

[hexed forge]

Dr. Isaac

The one who created the Gen1s

[acoustic osprey]

but I could definitely see a possible chance, at least, a tutorial-esque singleplayer

[oblique surge]

The game has a lot of potential for replayability so I imagine it’ll stay alive for a significant time

[hexed forge]

It would be also awesome if it was in VR too

[acoustic osprey]

i would never try to plunge myself into lore

[lethal moat]

🤞

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, if we could mod the game right now
there are a bunch of plugins that allow UE5 games to be immediately ported into VR

[hexed forge]

But whose gonna stop me from putting you into my own isle lore in my head

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/840351351966793777/1129143854503841812/PI_Title_Banner_Gif.gif?ex=65849ca9&is=657227a9&hm=0d2efb01d1cb13d502adfeb9b6d4814760c592cbfc5b95b437245380cdfe67be&

[hexed forge]

Oh no

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-darth-maul-dont-be-so-certain-the-clone-wars-gif-22135984

[oblique surge]

You will appear in lore as an unknown scientist in an inside joke that like 5 people will get

[hexed forge]

Si

[acoustic osprey]

it was pretty rough upfront many years ago for UE4 games
but it's grown a lot. It'll be quite cool to see such for Isle

[lethal moat]

I want a calender to have Krow's birthday marked as today

[hexed forge]

Gen 2 VR mode would be lovely

[acoustic osprey]

makes me question if JC346_Admin means John Cake 😊
(from the roadmap video)

[hexed forge]

JohnCake

The one who started AE

[acoustic osprey]

-i have already made him headcanon in my loreberg video. No one will stop me

[acoustic osprey]

[lethal moat]

Agreed

[oblique surge]

Well technically he’s also actually canon!

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/fnaf-memes-gif-12046621880058457271

[hexed forge]

Ahahaha

How well is the loreborg video going?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-wars-star-wars-rex-fives-clones-gif-4506351670282466337

[hexed forge]

I keep forgetting what he says in that scene god damnit

Why does the gif not have subtitles!!

[acoustic osprey]

I'm in the middle of doing my dibble video breakdown
600 words just about the very first few frames atm.

https://gyazo.com/95117bccc4267f53bb27e74853c9ad0d
but basically 7000 words for the loreberg (2000 are notes)

[oblique surge]

I have no idea so I’m just gonna assume isaac agrees with me!

[hexed forge]

Nice. I assume the recording will also take a lot of time.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kurt-angle-gif-15112361227290036695

[hexed forge]

And editing the background.. oh boy.. this is like a year old project..

[oblique surge]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-moly-gif-2379897567703251318

[hexed forge]

Isaac the longer it takes the more lore actually might be added

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-gif-24496452

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah
It's why I HAD to do the dibble video

[hexed forge]

The new lore may or may not just throw off an entire section in it

[acoustic osprey]

saying that.
I have to write about the dibble video now into the loreberg lol

[acoustic osprey]

thank you

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

going to finish my actual video first before I do that THOUGH

[hexed forge]

Make sure you mention the mysterious shadow!!! totally lore

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/blO69.gif

They're pretty great.

[hexed forge]

Planned VR mode for Gen2 please

[hexed forge]

You guys tested it?

Oh god, Gen 2 VR sooner than I thought.

[lethal moat]

Wonder how in depth mechanical maintanance will be for gen 2

[hexed forge]

I hope Gen2 Survival will be hardcore, and I also hope that there will actually be some sort of quests. The rewards would be discovering lore

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, yeah.
A good landing pad for people. LARGE amount of games no one really expected to have VR- and suddenly you see videos like "VR Jedi Fallen"

I'm unsure of the complete aspects of the current UE5 plugins.
But I know the UE4 was just the camera- the programmer of "X" mod now having to then take it into their own hands and add actual functionality with physics (if bothered to)

[hexed forge]

Either discovering notes, journals, lost files, etc.

[acoustic osprey]

oh yes.
If things have to be lightened for Dinos in their current survival gameplay
Gen2s should not get that same treatment- at least for the most part

[pseudo fable]

No, just me. Stood in the room and looked around in first person in some locations and with different timezones/weather.

[hexed forge]

Ahhh Alright

[lethal moat]

Give me the keycards

[hexed forge]

You died

Lost all your stages of clearences cards.

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

Dondi what do you think of this?

[acoustic osprey]

oh nice. Only could imagine such.
Not much of a gameplay experience.
But heck, even the "2d experience" of playing on a monitor is pretty sick.

Night time?
Dimmer lights in the room?
Fan on high so you're freezing cold- in-game it's raining and super dark?
Let me in!

[lethal moat]

Give me the 1080p version of lorem ipsium files

[young viper]

👀

[acoustic osprey]

ha

you can probably just open any macbook pages template

[lethal moat]

Nah

[acoustic osprey]

that's a text literally describing lorem ipsum lol

[hexed forge]

Si

[acoustic osprey]

why would you do this

[hexed forge]

I dont know

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

Oh wait you think I wrote all that? I got that from google

[acoustic osprey]

no, of course not!!

[hexed forge]

[pseudo fable]

Probably find lore just by exploration. Quests are just... I'm tired, bud. I just need this survival skeleton out of the way for sandbox.

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

Alright

[acoustic osprey]

hmm interesting

[young viper]

#isle-lore-theories message imagine an official evrima/lore animation...

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

can certainly
but I imagine in the far future

unless they specifically hire someone to work with Seiza for animation

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/star-gif-16789607377123159596

[acoustic osprey]

I do hope the broader scope of lore-exploration is definitely explored upon
but I imagine it's not the easiest to do- besides just placing things at "X" etc.

albeit, the idea of time, species, location is still pretty cool

[hexed forge]

It would be nice to maybe collect notes, and then the notes give hints to some big location. How to get to it. Maybe even there is a secret door that is only openable via code

[acoustic osprey]

if Don had the time in the future, rabbit hole/bear hunt stuff would be interesting.
But, eh, that is tedious at best to design

rather than just pieces of information on a larger piece of lore

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[pseudo fable]

If there were two or more of me writing, maybe.

[acoustic osprey]

bit by bit, piece by piece

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/lego-head-legohead-bunga-smile-gif-20034656

[hexed forge]

I hope the dev team grows much more larger, maybe the fame of the isle grows once humans are properly added.

[acoustic osprey]

that is the dream

[young viper]

Does any dev know how to do this or so far the lore is just up to you?

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/stay-strong-you-got-this-youre-the-boss-you-rock-beat-negativity-gif-7650512615184753285

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[pseudo fable]

So why give it life in here?

[hexed forge]

Mb

[pseudo fable]

So far it's me. Everyone else has a specific job. No one has the time to go writing Isle lore.

[young viper]

@acoustic osprey 👀

[maiden sundial]

I am thinking of a guy.

[hexed forge]

^ Thats what I was just about to say lmfao

[acoustic osprey]

it's quite agreeable, lore is not a priority for the game as a development-aspect of the game

[pseudo fable]

The only time Isle lore becomes relevant to the team is when I show up with one of those "So what do you think?" moments.

https://tenor.com/xAYT.gif

[lethal moat]

Love hades as a villlain

[pseudo fable]

^ Actual gif of me looking for approval for things I write when I give them to members of the team.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[maiden sundial]

I use hades gifs whenever someone really gets on my nerves but I gotta calm down

[lethal moat]

I like hercules as a stand alone movie much better than I like the movie based off of a legend

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-captain-rex-i-have-a-few-ideas-i-have-some-ideas-i-have-some-suggestions-gif-21485271

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401480573471948821/1225191224689037323/Diabloceratops_Migration_Data_Long_Gif.gif

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-its-cool-im-fine-relax-hercules-gif-16668568

[iron anchor]

isaac ill vote for you for official isle lorist

[maiden sundial]

THIS IS ME FR.

[acoustic osprey]

as a childrens movie, I don't angry about it. (Why would you)
It's fun.
As a mythological piece of media, it's quite painful

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[pseudo fable]

That gif... come on.

[lethal moat]

Agreed

[young viper]

Let's approve lightclaw for the dev team to help Dondi make lore

[hexed forge]

Hm?

[maiden sundial]

Helldivers 2

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/no-sonny-i-robot-gif-23790834

[hexed forge]

You did not just say that..

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-lego-batman-sad-batman-batman-sad-lego-batman-sad-gif-23101702

[pseudo fable]

Use the proper one:

https://imgur.com/cqwyrjq

[hexed forge]

Ahh thanks, Favoriting it now

[pseudo fable]

I come with gifts in 4k.

[acoustic osprey]

epic 4k 60fps!!

[maiden sundial]

I did indeed just say that

[young viper]

I'm afraid of high quality gifs

[iron anchor]

is that upscaled

[hexed forge]

Dondi is the official TOMB of gifs

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/violámadagascar-gif-21419559

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-samwise-spook-hand-gif-2305894769331081418

[patent ginkgo]

Tomb

[hexed forge]

Tomb

[pseudo fable]

Are you all looking at my notes? Stop it.

[hexed forge]

Yes

[lethal moat]

Yes

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-crank-dat-gif-19328104

[patent ginkgo]

Not gonna stop

[acoustic osprey]

||I don't work in the lore writing. As much as I love writing. I'm far too personal with it - unless it's some goofy comedy. I'm also far too busy with Uni||

[maiden sundial]

They are currently in the walls

[hexed forge]

||Share?||

🤔

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/Sxws.gif

[patent ginkgo]

Yes throw your notes at us

[hexed forge]

Yes, feed us with notes.

[acoustic osprey]

2172!!

[patent ginkgo]

NOOO

[hexed forge]

I hate that number!! Or technically Year

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/just-this-one-last-time-orko-masters-of-the-universe-revelation-lets-do-this-again-this-is-the-last-time-gif-24718890

[acoustic osprey]

and you're gonna live with it!

[maiden sundial]

Why do I have the drums of liberation version of overtaken playing in my head while watching this chaos unfold?

[hexed forge]

I reject it!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/helluva-boss-helluva-boss-stolas-reading-gif-2727371654895898165

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/luffy-luffy-gear-5-luffy-gear-5-white-gear-5-joyboy-gif-11074505862450082218

[patent ginkgo]

So rival companies raiding the tomb, amiright?

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816655897446449202/1226906774506831993/slownet.gif

[hexed forge]

he read dondis notes!

Dondi was typing for a second

[patent ginkgo]

Still is

[young viper]

some day Dondi will consider minmi 🙏 back to lore

[hexed forge]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

tomb raiders, what an interesting idea!!

[patent ginkgo]

And now I’m typing

[iron anchor]

are we still suck on finding out what tomb stands for or have we evolved since then

stuck*

[hexed forge]

Tartarus O M B

Dondi stopped typing again

[pseudo fable]

Kinda.

[young viper]

EIPs...

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

[patent ginkgo]

I’m clearly brilliant

[iron anchor]

jolly your tomb acronym guess was probably right aswell

[hexed forge]

@patent ginkgo Did you actually just read his notes..

Jolly tell us what TOMB means!

[patent ginkgo]

[hexed forge]

Write it down!

[patent ginkgo]

What even was it? I can’t remember now lol

[hexed forge]

Compared to the library of alexandria and connected to EIPs

[iron anchor]

treasury of mutation bank or something like that

[pseudo fable]

What was it?

[young viper]

Is humanity still alive in the Isle universe? Or its alive but it's chaos outside?

[iron anchor]

that was so long ago i dont remember

[maiden sundial]

Tomb? Is it an archive?

[patent ginkgo]

No I mean my acronym

[hexed forge]

Mb, I accidently thought you were replying to the other msg

[lethal moat]

Nah, we know TOMB was probably going to be raided already, so that kinda isn't super surprising

[hexed forge]

Oh

[pseudo fable]

Not the right word to use.

[hexed forge]

Databreach

[knotty locust]

dude i love tomb raider

[acoustic osprey]

erm

[lethal moat]

Ravaged?

[hexed forge]

I just shot that random word, probably wrong

[iron anchor]

i just remember us guessing T involved storage and the other letters involved what it stored

[young viper]

whats TOMB?

[maiden sundial]

FOUND IT

[hexed forge]

A lot of people theorised that TOMB is a library for the EIP stuff, a database

[hexed forge]

Thats me, not jolly.

[maiden sundial]

Damnit

[lethal moat]

Compared to the library of Alexandria, probably a storage place for important things, like Augustus

[acoustic osprey]

this?

[iron anchor]

there we go

[hexed forge]

JOLLY!

[patent ginkgo]

Yes

[pseudo fable]

That's fun.

[hexed forge]

Omg that actually might be correct lmao

[young viper]

I'm going to ask one more time just to be sure, are EPIs human minds on dinos?

[hexed forge]

Does that mean correct or incorrect

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-ewan-mc-gregor-obi-wan-kenobi-beard-gif-5306564

[hexed forge]

Conciealwhkwlaegwl Cant spell it but you get the word I think

[patent ginkgo]

Thanks, I thought it sounded quite nice and interesting

[hexed forge]

Owen please tell me you got the word

[young viper]

No

[hexed forge]

[pseudo fable]

Negative.

[iron anchor]

conciesseance??? i cant spell it either but atleast its better

[hexed forge]

Yes ^

Smthn near that

[acoustic osprey]

something along the line of being more cyber than physical?

[lethal moat]

Liquidated

[hexed forge]

I said databreach!

[maiden sundial]

Leaked?

[iron anchor]

Lolmao owen

[patent ginkgo]

Inspected perhaps?

[iron anchor]

consciousness******

[acoustic osprey]

nuh uh!!

[hexed forge]

Yuh uh!

[pseudo fable]

TOMB is physical.

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[patent ginkgo]

I’m guessing TOMB has things like Ben

[hexed forge]

A giant lab?

[patent ginkgo]

And Augustus

[hexed forge]

With vats?

[young viper]

So EIPs are human consciousness put into a dino?

[lethal moat]

Absorbed, consumed, devoured

[acoustic osprey]

in legacy

[hexed forge]

In legacy ye

[hexed forge]

The humans ate ben-

[lethal moat]

nomnomnom

[maiden sundial]

We need a mod to make Ben playable.

[iron anchor]

is it something different in evrima? i thought it just didnt exist

[young viper]

So the dino/human would go crazy knowing it is in a dino body?

[hexed forge]

All we know is that its connected to TOMB

[acoustic osprey]

we don't know

[maiden sundial]

WAIT.

[iron anchor]

don

[hexed forge]

Wait omg my brain stuttered again

There fixed it

[maiden sundial]

Wait if Ben is the secret animal?

[young viper]

Dondi, can you tell me if EIPs are Canon on evrima?

[hexed forge]

They are

Its already been confirmed

[lethal moat]

Did you not see the new roadmap?

[young viper]

but

[pseudo fable]

Eradicated.

[maiden sundial]

Oh right yea I did

[hexed forge]

Vaporized?

[maiden sundial]

Oh, purged.

[hexed forge]

Oh

[iron anchor]

annihilated?

[maiden sundial]

REDUCED TO ATOMS?

[lethal moat]

[pseudo fable]

That's something else, actually.

[iron anchor]

why are we talking about destruction

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-green-goblin-wait-what-smiling-evil-grin-gif-21581618

[hexed forge]

Dino keep trying to read dondis notes, try harder!!

[maiden sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/bruva-alfabusa-hunter-the-parenting-big-d-sir-d-ooo-gif-26453484

[acoustic osprey]

figuratively burned like the library of alexandria

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/heresy-detected-warhammer40k-warhammer40k-heresy-detected-warhammer40k-space-marines-gif-26543746

[young viper]

If I were an EIP, would I go crazy or act like a dino?

[hexed forge]

Helldivers 2

I would say that, go crazy. There was a theory that the reason augustus learned how to climb and attacked the human building was because there was a human begging for help

[young viper]

[iron anchor]

we need that one emote from lorecord in islecord

the rex 1000 yard stare

[maiden sundial]

Hm...purge...maybe tartarus was purged of its contents?

[lethal moat]

[iron anchor]

exactly

[hexed forge]

Hence why it was named with a special name. I feel like the assets that are named are EIPs

[maiden sundial]

After perhaps some sort of turn of events? Maybe a breach?

[hexed forge]

Hellno

[acoustic osprey]

depends on where TOMB is

[iron anchor]

hellyes

[hexed forge]

Oh wait, the rex stare, yeah that would be fun

[maiden sundial]

Likely off island and maybe on the mainland or their HQ.

[hexed forge]

I thought you meant the anky

[patent ginkgo]

Thank Don for the lore

[hexed forge]

Thank you dondi, have a goodnights rest

[maiden sundial]

Dondi went silent. I got no clue if I cracked the code or I'm wrong.

[young viper]

^ @acoustic osprey what do you think

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, it's quite horrific

[lethal moat]

TOMB is connected to GUTS, 100%, not a shadow of a doubt in my mind, it's too important to not be

[hexed forge]

Exactly

[acoustic osprey]

sort of being a kid and thinking about reincarnation
a lot of existential aspects of the mind. It's quite scary. Very scary.

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/doug-walker-fnaf-turning-around-turning-doug-turning-around-gif-23411544

[hexed forge]

And what is the isle, HORRORRRR WEOOO

[patent ginkgo]

I’m guessing the rival company doesn’t like what AE was doing, something related to the “scarifies dont exist if we can make it back up”

[young viper]

I can easily see this kind of horror on the isle

[acoustic osprey]

imagine being turned into an ant. Right now.
Imagine how POWERLESS you'd be

as if being sent off into another dimension with no way of getting back

[hexed forge]

That is indeed horrific

[acoustic osprey]

it's worse here
because you can see your loved ones

they'll never know you were turned into "X"

slowly and slowly
you lose your ability to recall your past life, your past life
then you become the ant

[hexed forge]

The thing is. AE employees sign the thousand life contract. Which makes them work for AE perm.. right?

[acoustic osprey]

depends
1000 isn't really permanent

[young viper]

Imagine seeing your work partners shooting at you because you became a Herrera, your vision would be completely different and you wouldn't know how to move properly

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979068369724645506/1176256833690816683/IWPiXWTC.gif?ex=656e358a&is=655bc08a&hm=bf63694a4f49f4036a4648121c29335a21d7f17f0cf8676c8d0a4598fb7bb4d2&

[hexed forge]

I feel like thats just a fancy name

[young viper]

And all you wanted was help ^

[lethal moat]

You signed the contract, it's only as long as you live 1000 lives, which may incentivize shorter lifespans, or the opposite, depends on what happens when you complete the contract

[acoustic osprey]

possibly
but we knew it was limited to 1000 in legacy

"A thousand lives you owe us"

[hexed forge]

Ohhh

Sorry I dont know much about legacy lore

[acoustic osprey]

it's ok

[robust ether]

legacy lore scares me

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

As it should

[young viper]

That's the good part of the isle

[robust ether]

[hexed forge]

Once mods come Im 100% gonna try to remake Spero

[patent ginkgo]

Spiro

I wonder, is spero still in lore?

[lethal moat]

The opportunity for modding is crazy

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
I'd love for Spiro to be redone completely

[hexed forge]

Spero better

[young viper]

I wanted to see the lore/history more written, instead of codes here codes there, just like the JP novel book.

[acoustic osprey]

make it more V3-esque

[acoustic osprey]

how can you say this when we never tried it

[patent ginkgo]

Because he’s an islecorder

[lethal moat]

Me too

[robust ether]

https://tenor.com/view/you-monster-portal-portal2-glados-gif-23022803

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, the JP Novels were a love letter to modern and more "absurd" science

[young viper]

^ I wonder if Dondi has a project like this

[hexed forge]

Alright so my reasoning is that. Speros map layout has much more potential. While Spiro looks like a round fortnite map for some reason

[hexed forge]

Hmmm

[lethal moat]

Wonder if AE has any creatures that are just, tremendously flawed

[young viper]

I just need something to actually read, like, All the lore we have is code there, letters here, cameras there 🙁

[hexed forge]

Ben

[lethal moat]

I asked for flaws, not perfection

[hexed forge]

[patent ginkgo]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

that's the thing.
Very different mediums

[young viper]

yea

[acoustic osprey]

books are solely words
games are not

but games can definitely allow for a wider usage of different approaches

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/kung-fu-panda-tai-lung-gif-25696486

[lethal moat]

Having gameplay adjacent lore bits would be great

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bemaL.gif

[acoustic osprey]

i guess it's like what we have now
but what we have now is just underdeveloped (for obvious reasons. It's not going to be simple with one guy writing it all, whilst directing it all)

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/kaboom-penguins-penguins-of-madagascar-gif-26895027

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bKHiL.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/stannis-baretheon-gif-18874142

[hexed forge]

Oh dondi is back

[lethal moat]

Do you have enough for the whole class?

[acoustic osprey]

uh oh

[hexed forge]

Oh no

Guys

[pseudo fable]

I do not. Light has put in the work for the things I DM.

[lethal moat]

Fair

[hexed forge]

Does that gif mean what I think it means. Or am I just getting flashbacks from before the dilo update

[young viper]

[hexed forge]

Omg I hate going on phone, autocorrect kills me

[lethal moat]

I disabled it

[hexed forge]

I'm too lazy to find out how

[acoustic osprey]

you can do that? lol

[hexed forge]

^

[lethal moat]

Yeah, in settings, I was tired of acronyms and dinosaur names being changed, so I stopped using autocorrect

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, i think my autocorrect autocorrects due to it being linked to several languages.
i think at times I'll mistakenly spell an english word in maltese and just give up

[hexed forge]

Ahah

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/really-willsmith-hmm-well-sarcastic-gif-18053026837878396159

[lethal moat]

Now I'm thinking Errant 291 was from a foreign agency

[young viper]

i wonder what's the surprise...

[acoustic osprey]

hmm

[lethal moat]

It's best to not ponder things we won't know for awhile

[patent ginkgo]

Lore that we don’t get for a while probably

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-lego-batman-sad-batman-batman-sad-lego-batman-sad-gif-23101702

[lethal moat]

lol

[patent ginkgo]

Both rumple and Isaac have got their stuff, where’s mine!!!

[hexed forge]

What caused him to get a cardiac arrest? The agency uh.. uhh.. planted something into him so he doesn't leak info... uh.. idk this is very sci-fi like and idk if I like it.

[acoustic osprey]

tree

[patent ginkgo]

I’m not impactful enough in lore endeavors I think to get much of anything

[hexed forge]

Just a bunch of plants

[lethal moat]

Cyanide tooth or something similar

[hexed forge]

Yes!

[hexed forge]

Jolly your lore supplier would be jace

[young viper]

i need lore too

[hexed forge]

Lego lore

I wonder what caused the dibbles too die so much during the injection. Half of them died so easily.

Could Dibble be that weak when first created..

[lethal moat]

Lack of herd and predators I would say

[hexed forge]

Ahh, true, there were indeed a bunch of potatoes wandering around solo.

Dibble perhaps antisocial 🤔

In the second injection/ 35th generation of Dibble being antisocial

[lethal moat]

I mean, if AE is looking for the most likely to survive, most of the time, things that group up are going to be more likely to survive, and thus are more likely to be replicated I would say

[pseudo fable]

Alright, Light may be dead for a while.

[lethal moat]

Uh oh

[hexed forge]

Did he get relocated to tartarus or smthn

🤔

[maiden sundial]

What in the name of the replicator did you do dondi

[meager junco]

The truth was too much for him

[lethal moat]

Or he's got school stuff to do

[hexed forge]

Anyways. Gn lorecord.

[lethal moat]

Peace out

[meager junco]

The classic

[lethal moat]

So, I'm looking at the Errant 291 Incident and comparing it to the dibble and Augustus format, and I feel like there's potential for a future video log with that, since the report describes a video log and an autopsy report, etc, that could be something fun for a fanmade thing.

[lethal moat]

No boat 😦

[meager junco]

I’m just hoping something like this actually makes ingame in a lab somewhere

[lethal moat]

One of the R/D stations has to have something like that

Or maybe an area of tartarus or something along that vein

[meager junco]

Just walking in a lab and you enter a room and witness something like this for the first time

[lethal moat]

The intern made a wrong turn while dropping off coffee

[meager junco]

[fast forge]

Doesn't really seem plausible as a room you can walk in to, but perhaps in part of a cutscene, glimpsed through a door

[meager junco]

Yeh that’s right we want a dead you @swift echo

[lethal moat]

A recording of an actual dissection, and being able to enter the actual room could be fun

[meager junco]

If only we’d get something like that, a story like mode is something I long for

[meager junco]

Find the tape
Now find the room

[lethal moat]

Portable battering ram > keycard

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/first-time-meme-first-time-the-ballad-of-buster-scruggs-gif-24656975

[lethal moat]

Make it loud as hell though, and make it so you have to pound it repeatedly

[meager junco]

If locked doors truly come, I need pachy to be able to bonk it open after a few tries

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-gif-26777787

[fast forge]

if it has been some time since the incident, we are going to find a random neuro dissection that hasn't rotted?

[young viper]

Lightclaw:

[lethal moat]

Sterile and empty at the room maybe

[fast forge]

Do you just mean being able to find the in-game room that was featured in a video?

[lethal moat]

Yes

[fast forge]

okay yeah that tracks

[lethal moat]

If there is a "rival company(s)" I wonder if their goal is money or if the other company has a fundamental misunderstanding or lack of knowledge on Apollo Engineering, and if so, exactly what sort of unfortunate circumstances that leads to for the infiltrator/saboteur

[meager junco]

If neuro goo truly is something in evrima, I’m hoping neuros don’t rot but instead turn into a pile of goo and bones

[lethal moat]

Hold up, could that maybe rival company thingy be another Apollo subsidary?

[fast forge]

yeah or just rival individuals, factions, or sections within AI

[acoustic osprey]

mmm. I'd still imagine some sort of "rotting"
but more like oxidising. Less so actual "meat decay"

[lethal moat]

Internal strife within the larger Apollo corperation could be very fun

[meager junco]

Could make sense if you align the sabotage theory

[fast forge]

could even be internal politics "oh the CEO is selling the company, I'll Nedry the TOMB"

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/imposter-tf2-it-could-be-you-it-could-be-me-spy-gif-23428031

[meager junco]

Just something where even things like deino and cera wouldn’t eat

[acoustic osprey]

tar

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/wildly-paranoid-look-around-captain90s-gif-26042439

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/im-melting-wicked-witch-wizard-of-oz-of-the-west-water-gif-17977767

[meager junco]

I like that, I Just like the idea that neuro isn’t just something you don’t want to get close to, but something you don’t even want to touch if it’s dead

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[lethal moat]

Neuro is just wrong

[meager junco]

It’s just something you don’t want to encounter ever, not even hear one across miles away

Truly do wonder if tisso has gotten any work or if it’s just ideas in the air atm

[lethal moat]

Spikey

[fast forge]

I'm guessing it's still ideas

[meager junco]

Ejectable spike Defense

[lethal moat]

Ranged dinosaur could be fun

[fast forge]

they gotta have priorities for game development, and stuff like strains seem pretty far away

[lethal moat]

I think we're still a good ways off from seeing things like strains

Could be wrong though

[meager junco]

Most likely not till elders or elders is close , maybe some sneak peaks along the way

[fast forge]

there are like 500 more important things

[lethal moat]

I personally don't think we'll get strains until after gen 1 and gen 2

[meager junco]

Hey the gen 1 train is on track I’ll remind you

https://tenor.com/view/train-ride-michael-downie-downielive-riding-train-all-aboard-gif-6845624057325235527

[lethal moat]

Yeah, but I'm talking like, core mechanics basic gameplay down before we stuff

[meager junco]

Yeh I think the last said about it was something about how they’re still thinking up how exactly it moves/function

So still a ways off(hope we get test gen 1 like we got test gen 2 early)

[acoustic osprey]

i'm presuming design might be still in the thinking lab
but the general ideas are there

[meager junco]

Yeh I think rn it’s leaning towards more beast like movements but I could be wrong

[lethal moat]

Found footage of gen 1 (not clickbait)(gone wild)

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[meager junco]

The gen 1 trailer better have that beautiful NV camera affect that the dibble video had

Would look like a cryptid video

[lethal moat]

I want very eerie music

I honestly want more music variation in general for evrima tbh

[acoustic osprey]

if only all the games' tracks could be on spotify or something

some of the human tracks are really great.

not really music
more so musique concrète

but serves nicely in the horror-sphere

[lethal moat]

Music box theme

[meager junco]

I mean for the trailer, I want complete silence in the night, and you hear the foliage, the night critters, then a strange like sound completely silences the night. Then you see some Gen 1s just running past the camera but almost to the point where you can’t see them

[lethal moat]

I also want something metal, I want to get chills from entering Tartarus and hearing it's theme

[acoustic osprey]

all I hear is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZY0sg28rXc

wait no, not the best one

[lethal moat]

Something like the loki theme for wandering tartarus

[meager junco]

Thousand life contract plz in the facilities

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaMPWzRzwqg
this one

[lethal moat]

Once you turn the flashlight on you're not turning it off, also, I loved that

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[meager junco]

Ok something like this would be perfect for it , the only thing is, the isle doesn’t seem like something where an employee would pick up the camera and start talking

[acoustic osprey]

depends on Gen2s honestly

with or without talking

[lethal moat]

Maybe it's an employee retrieving a field camera and leaving it recording

That suspense tho!

Love it

[meager junco]

I can see something where as an employee is doing a repair on an outside thing, or possibly doing a files search and got lost but for AE policies, camera stays on, and you basically cue the gen 1 thing

[lethal moat]

A security camera, where you see shadows moving, or a claw come over a fence, but the poor sod is blissfully unaware

[meager junco]

Also I like the idea of this for a neuro, if said neuro has an EMP ability, where you see a team close in on a door, and as soon as they open it, the camera glitches a the film ends, but the last frame you see is a sort of alien like creature in gunfire light pouncing on the men

[lethal moat]

I also wonder if AE made any parasites

[meager junco]

Parasite to counter strains would be cool

But strains are kind of a parasite in itself

[lethal moat]

"Deploy the facehuggers"

[meager junco]

Gonna need a facehugger the size of a garbage truck for colossus

[lethal moat]

One sec, I know almost nothing about Halo, I need to look into the flood

[meager junco]

I’m gonna guess that’s like a sort of enemy that has parasites or is the parasites themselves

[lethal moat]

It's a sentient hivemind parasite thing

[meager junco]

Yeh figured , I do like hive mind parasites and stuff like that

The “we are one” unity is creepy but cool

[lethal moat]

Programable diseases or parasites in order to cull things seems about right for a genetic engineering company

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/halo-the-flood-infected-brute-flood-combat-form-pod-infectors-gif-4110911999343572773

[lethal moat]

Parasitic neuro is another fun idea, take from those you control, but not enough to kill them

[acoustic osprey]

neuros being literal "4th person"

basically akin to venom from Marvel

but more hivemind

[lethal moat]

"*The way I see it * we can do whatever we want."

[meager junco]

Good lord I forgot how cheesy his lines were

[lethal moat]

Until it's 6 dinosaurs speaking perfect english in sync with each other

[meager junco]

Well I forget who said it, might’ve even been me but someone said neuros should get a sort of group chat of their own, no matter what type of neuro it is

[lethal moat]

Yeah, forced group chat for nearby creatures, with the neuro as the central point in the network

They all talk to neuro and neuro talks to everything

[meager junco]

Neuro just sneaks into the local chat and baits players is a great idea lol

“Help I’m a baby stego, I’m stuck!”

[lethal moat]

"You want some candy little dibble?"

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, echidna does this with humans
so...

why not for dinos as well for dino-neuros? That'd be really cool

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/yess-yes-gif-25420589

[meager junco]

That’s what I’m saying! I feel like it shouldn’t just be a lore thing but an actual gameplay thing

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!!

[lethal moat]

Give neuro mimicry as well makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

troodon mimicry should be "Ok" - if not, just limited to juvie calls
but neuros? Super mimicry

should be OP, like Hypers. But to it's own style

[lethal moat]

Because a baby stego with the voice of a 8 ton slimy creature would arouse suspicion

[meager junco]

That’s a good point, that just brings me back to the neuro weakness, I thought maybe neuros need more water to create their slimy substance that keeps them alive

[lethal moat]

Give dinosaurs under neuro's control some sort of subtle identifier, like milky eyes

[meager junco]

So hypers, food drains fast, neuros, water drains fast

[lethal moat]

I agree, water would be a decent reliant thing for neuros

Imagine walking up to an omniraptor with milky eyes and it just begins asking you for help before it gets sideswiped by a neuro spino and shredded to bits

[meager junco]

Random twitch would be neat as well, or maybe even possibly killing said creature you’re trying to control, just see a Rex having some sort of heart attack cause the neuro gave a bit too much juice on it

[lethal moat]

Neuro is a very fun concept, and I don't want them to hold back

[meager junco]

Hypers are beasts in themselves

Neuros need their own power

Tissos we’ll get to you someday…

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-obi-wan-kenobi-maybe-some-day-someday-one-day-gif-26036494

[lethal moat]

Neuro needing others to be most efficient is a fun concept, the most abominable mixpack

"I can't believe that allo is mixpacking with that teno, who the hell does that- OH GOD IT'S IN THE WATER"

[digital sand]

what does rex look like?

[acoustic osprey]

good question wrong channel

[lethal moat]

Wrong chat, or are you asking about Hyper rex?

[lethal moat]

I'm doing legacy homework, and I'm having some ideas

[acoustic osprey]

hit me

[lethal moat]

I'm about 3 pages into hellshade's doc and I'm seeing either A) Someone is helping whoever is accessing the console who shouldn't be, or B) The replicator is sentient and helping the person by stopping others from seeing what they're doing, leading towards the second one personally, but also, Replicator was made to survey gateway, as well as replicate things, which leads me to believe there will ideally be a lot of cameras throughout gateway, depending on the extent of which the replicator is changing

Also, the plethora of mandarin characters from old transmissions is making me think Gateway is in oceana more

Maybe a bit north of oceana

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, we never really got to know what Gateway was in Legacy

[lethal moat]

It was a rear connection between Island 1 and Island 2 that led to Tartarus and was monitored by the replicator

That's about it

Oh to see the olympus transmitter active again

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/weve-both-been-played-for-fools-donald-sutherland-president-snow-the-hunger-games-mockingjay-part2-betrayed-gif-16225267

[lethal moat]

Have we now?

I certainly have, I thought something was new, but it's the same from legacy

Spent 20 min messing around before I cross referenced it to hellshade's doc

I am curious about what :VDoc #47 Fatality Investigation Report, Was supposed to be

[hallow holly]

🤨

[steel summit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1219214137876283442/The_Isle_lore.gif

[lethal moat]

Alright, so if we assume EIPS aren’t directly reliant on the replicator, wouldn’t AE’s final goals include shutting down the replicator? If the end goal is to alter the world to resist climate change, you’d want a stable ecosystem, meaning the replicator wouldn’t be constantly pumping in more creatures.

[fossil nebula]

this is where perhaps Gen 2 search and destroy teams come in to try and decommission it continuously until the goal is achieved, I feel like thats gonna be the overall goal of gen 2 in the game, other goals include not dying

[lethal moat]

Sounds about right to me

But, even then, we likely wouldn’t have a stable ecosystem of players nesting in new dinosaurs, at least I wouldn’t think so

[fossil nebula]

Yeah they would def die most likely before that, therefore keep cloning lol

[lethal moat]

I feel like that’s one of the replicator’s primary functions

Maybe not complete shutdown, just reduced functionality

[fossil nebula]

Replicator only produces dinos and gen 1s tho right?

as far as we know?

[lethal moat]

We aren’t sure about gen 2, but for sure yes for the other two

[fossil nebula]

Thats crazy bc if it makes gen 2s they could do the replicators bidding

[meager junco]

Someone dies, EIP is sent back to TOMB or wherever they’re being kept, replicator creates creature to replace the old dead body

[lethal moat]

Even then, that wouldn’t be a stable ecosystem, so gen 2’s presence on the island would likely more be about securing assets rather than completing AE’s “final goal”

[fossil nebula]

Main mission: Reroute the replicators system to only make dinos, and only tame and normal dinos at that.

So no more, hyper and gen 1s

[lethal moat]

I wouldn’t call the stereotypical pachy player “tame” but I get what you’re saying

[fossil nebula]

Ye lol

[lethal moat]

I just think the replicator is a means to an end, rather than a permanent fixture within the goals of Apollo

[vast cave]

Is it possible to see the changes in HordeTesting Server ? Patch Notes ?

oh wrong channel^^

[lethal moat]

Wrong channel, but patch notes are in announcements, and doesn’t mention the map changes https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/401469622659973120

[median shuttle]

I think the Isle could really work as a movie in the style of Cloverfield

[lethal moat]

This second statement implies that Apollo Pharmaceuticals North, Apollo Red, and Mercury Beneficial are relevant to lore and now I’m invested in the idea of internal conflict within the larger Apollo Corporation umbrella

[pseudo fable]

Only three events involving internal calamity are currently documented in my little book.

There's definitely internal fights, though.

[lethal moat]

Hacker needs to show up here more often, he has such fun ideas

[fast forge]

Are these separate from the "exterior hostile entities" you mentioned yesterday, or is it possible they are connected?

[crystal cairn]

lights are pink now?

[pseudo fable]

It is clearly inferred internal sabotage was needed for the event I alluded to yesterday.

[pseudo fable]

Nah, lighting bug.

[lethal moat]

My main guesses for “external hostile enemies” are rival companies and/or former disgruntled employees (if those exist)

Or natural forces of nature, but that doesn’t really fit the description super well

[fast forge]

gotcha

[pseudo fable]

I'm sure they do exist. I haven't written any.

Disgruntled employees*.

[lethal moat]

Oh, Dondi, are giant crabs outside of AE’s control, or are they purposely created at this point

[lethal moat]

I see

[pseudo fable]

Uh, first go around is definitely a whoopsie poopsie.

[lethal moat]

Still love this meme that came from us finding out about that

Would the research bases used for studying that megaflora be in the oceans around the islands or on the islands themselves?

And the important question, will I be able to annoy my friends by singing under the sea while walking through an underwater tunnel?

Also, autonomous research stations run by AI (probably the replicator) could work well, I’m wondering if AE has a reason for not using them or if we just haven’t seen anything about it yet

[fast forge]

Did the accidental exposure of crabs occur within AE facilities, or did AE's mutagenic compounds find their way out into the environment?

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/wSUx.gif

[fast forge]

dang

[lethal moat]

Is that schoolhouse rock?

[scarlet verge]

Lol it's a tootsie roll pop commercial from the 90s

Damn, the 80s. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZtbCOpx8Sk

[fast forge]

yeah it was a common commercial when I was a kid

I think it still airs?

[scarlet verge]

I think it might, I remember watching it as a kid too

[lethal moat]

Conjunction junction is the superior song to everything else

[scarlet verge]

Didn't like the bill on Capitol Hill?

[lethal moat]

It’s alright, just not as much of a bop

[fast forge]

On the meaning of the name 'Gateway', my theory is that this is the most public of AE's islands. The 'Gateway' through which an individual (whether investors, inspectors, reporters, what have you) is introduced to the company's genetics research. Am I barking up the wrong tree here?

[pseudo fable]

Definitely not the most public.

[fast forge]

ty!

[lethal moat]

In legacy, it was “the gateway to tartarus”

[fast forge]

I see

[lethal moat]

Was also a between point from Island one and island two, but we didn’t get much more than that

[hexed forge]

Hello lorechat

[fast forge]

Another random question before my lunch break is over: Does 'OLYMPUS Central Control' have anything to do with the large volcano located on Gateway?

[young viper]

Would that mean this is all under the volcano?

[rugged lava]

https://tenor.com/view/end-me-lego-bury-dive-lol-bye-gif-14464696

[hybrid wagon]

Don can you give us another hint or let us know if we are in the right direction of why dinosaurs we still are just theorizing

I mean I think dinosaurs are used as hosts for genetic material

[lethal moat]

We have that climate change thing, that’s a big step

[strange shell]

I think the reason there are dinos is because let's be honest, dragons would have been much harder to create.

[hybrid wagon]

It’s true but what does that have in relation to dinosaurs

I guess you could argue dinosaurs might be more adept to such an environment

[lethal moat]

Dinosaurs survive in the altered environment much better than current animals, you need a complete ecosystem if you want to continue on in relative similarity to what you have been doing

[hybrid wagon]

So what your saying is you think ae is choosing dinosaurs over regular animals because they could survive the changing climate and other animals are struggling to do so

[lethal moat]

You interested in lore?

[hybrid wagon]

Don’t fall for it it’s a trap

[lethal moat]

That is my immediate assumption, yes

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/wench-silence-silence-wench-mad-angry-gif-12588121

[fallow harbor]

so prolly the second most secure ?

id assume the most secure/private would be tartarus

[lethal moat]

If you need to geth through gateway to get to tartarus with no other way in, I would argue most secure

[fallow harbor]

do we know if tartorus is a island

is it above ground or below ?

or do we know nothing about it physically

[lethal moat]

Most people think it's currently a massive facility underneath gateway, but that;s not confirmed

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[fallow harbor]

id agree with them. GUTS seems to be essential

[lethal moat]

Other than that one time dondi chuckled at me and said you have no idea on stream when I made an offhand joke about an entrance to tartarus being in a field

[fallow harbor]

maybe not directly underneath gateway. but i think tartarus is underground atleast

[lethal moat]

I would guess so as well

[scarlet verge]

Talking about under, did yall see that the volcano is open now?

[lethal moat]

Love that little cave

[patent ginkgo]

I doubt it’s an entrance to anywhere tho

[scarlet verge]

No no, but it wasn't open before. And there's a tunnel (still closed off) close that could lead to something when they add it

[lethal moat]

Calderas are fun

[fallow harbor]

geothermic powerd elevators into tartarus 🔥

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/stray-elevator-gif-26276634

[hybrid wagon]

stray mentioned 💯 💯 🔥 🔥

[acoustic osprey]

i mean, for all that we know, the same is with Evrima for Gateway

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-maybe-possibly-might-be-perhaps-gif-15643771

[acoustic osprey]

it was said by DONDI!!

[lethal moat]

Yeah, the subject of what tartarus is is still up for date though

[lethal moat]

Greek mythos is neat

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-fives-what-are-you-doing-the-clone-wars-gif-22136562

[hybrid wagon]

i still like prison compound where people are forced to work and do dangerous maintanance jobs on the replicator (ik the replicator could be anywhere but i like the idea)

[lethal moat]

We likely won't see a physical representation of the replicator in game

[hybrid wagon]

shush

[hexed forge]

Thats what dondi said.

[lethal moat]

[hybrid wagon]

All i want is a sick tapwing drawing

i want to SEE it

[hexed forge]

BUT, I bet the lore community will mod a lot of concepts into the game

Such as the replicator

[acoustic osprey]

but possibly in a game

[hexed forge]

Or the entire different island that the replicator is located on

[hybrid wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/doesnt-count-doesn't-doesn-t-nerd-emoji-nerd-gif-4880118402288305837

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hype-get-turn-up-lit-gif-15908191

[hybrid wagon]

still all i want it to see it i want an image of it in my head

[lethal moat]

This is what I use for now

[hybrid wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/the-cake-is-a-lie-cake-gone-gif-9647726196378009606

[meager junco]

With the climate change thing, I wonder if anyone who doesn’t meet the Quota , gets sent there “you didn’t do good enough research? Off with your head!”

[lethal moat]

That seems wasteful

And unneccessarily evil

We know people who disclose information get sent there, but maybe not dying

Maybe a thousand deaths

[meager junco]

The off with your head was just a metaphor, not a literal sense meaning

[lethal moat]

I see

[meager junco]

Just more of, you need to do better kind of situation

[lethal moat]

I don't think it's to do with quota, probably just directly defying the company

[meager junco]

I mean I would expect some sort of punishment of sorts if the employees never leave the island, (going off that “what if they don’t want to leave” don statement, there’s no point in firing staff that has nowhere to go

[lethal moat]

I would count refusing to work as defiance

It also could be that the conditions on the island are better than elsewhere

[meager junco]

If the islands on are on earth that is…

[lethal moat]

[meager junco]

Don’t mind me , just bringing back up the “Earth(?)” thing we once saw

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/wheremst-gif-15093168731416310701

AE's logo is on a revolving globe, I'll take my chances in assuming it's earth

[meager junco]

Let me find it, it’s gonna be in one of isaacs docs most likely

[acoustic osprey]

no

[meager junco]

Yeh I’m more kidding around, but, I still am not ditching the fact that we might not be on 100% earth like ours

[acoustic osprey]

it's from Dondi's old twitter

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/lemme-see-lemme-see-let-me-see-baby-yoda-gif-21233122

[acoustic osprey]

you can't anymore though
his twitter is gone

[lethal moat]

I will say, with climate change being a relevant issue, I am more content with 2172 (or whatever the number) being a possibility

[acoustic osprey]

but we're IN the middle of a climate crisis!!

[lethal moat]

Maybe Earth has reached advanced stages of it by then

[meager junco]

It’s just hard to imagine 170 years go by without anything truly advanced in terms of technology, yes we got some 4K stuff and monitors from the 2010s, but I mean like a huge leap in technological advances

[patent ginkgo]

i agree

[lethal moat]

Apocalypses tend to pause the advancment of humanity

[patent ginkgo]

besides, AE seems the type of company to look more into the future

[acoustic osprey]

https://climatechange.chicago.gov/sites/production/files/2016-07/scenarioglobaltemp.jpg
https://climatechange.chicago.gov/sites/production/files/2016-07/scenariotempgraph_0.jpg

for the most part
2172 would just be just a hundred years too late

I don't believe we're at the basically impossible to fix point of the climate crisis for isle

[lethal moat]

How much are sea levels supposed to rise of the ice caps melt?

[meager junco]

So if we’re going with realistic statistics and everything, if it truly is 2172, then it’s most likely happened and what’s on the islands is humanity’s last hope

[lethal moat]

Mhm