isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

thousand life contract

[lethal moat]

I just want the confirmation of EIPs getting removed so I can take joy in transferring it to the lore graveyard part of my doc

[inland notch]

Like you sign up to work for AE for 1 thousand lifetimes?

[acoustic osprey]

linked with EIPs, in Legacy lore.

At least, it's believed that Khorne completed their profile (EIP- Embyro Intelligence profile)

[inland notch]

So here's another question I'll ask. Do we know definitively whether or not AE is still operating?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-maybe-possibly-might-be-perhaps-gif-15643771

[inland notch]

Good enough

[acoustic osprey]

😊

[lethal moat]

Replicator is still operational and Gen 2 are arriving to do stuff, make of that what you will

[inland notch]

Would definitely point to yes

[lethal moat]

I’d assume that as well, but I don’t want to say anything that could potentially be false

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/huey-vietnam-ride-of-the-valkyries-apocalypse-now-gif-16225995

Us arriving to find lore

[patent ginkgo]

We should fill up a dead server some time when the map gets lore-ified

[meager junco]

Lorem Hypsium one day

[patent ginkgo]

Yes

[low scarab]

Protest for Lorem hypsium

[median shuttle]

Is spiro part of the Isle "Canon" or was it just a placeholder location till gateway was finished?

[meager junco]

Spiro is wiped out , gateway is the only relevant place

[median shuttle]

Good, Spiro also made no sense geographically so it never felt like an actual place that could exist on earth tbh

[meager junco]

Iirc, the part of spiro we got to play was only about 1/4 of the actual map

[maiden sundial]

Yea the full spiro was a massive 20 by 20km

[median shuttle]

yeah that also always bothered me that we couldnt explore coast to coast

[acoustic osprey]

yes and no

We don't have hard confirmation on if Spiro is gone from lore

just that it likely wont be returning ever again in-game

[verbal dagger]

are there any youtube channels discussin the lore?

[steel summit]

lightclaw

[verbal dagger]

Tysm

[fallow harbor]

whats eips

[lethal moat]

Yucky human consciousness inside of dinosaurs

[fallow harbor]

ewwwwwww. that sounds complicated

[lethal moat]

I don’t like the idea, might not be in evrima tho since it was a legacy thing

[fallow harbor]

why dont the devs just tell us what has been cancelled from legacy. it makes no sense to hide it

[patent ginkgo]

The mystery

[fallow harbor]

a major inconvenience is not a *mystery * nor does it add to one

[lethal moat]

The mystery

[maiden sundial]

They could still be mulling it over

[low scarab]

Sooooo lore am I right

Why are gen 2 still on the island post incident were they just left?

And were gen 2 working in perimeter or “normal humans” working there

In all the offices and such?

[lethal moat]

Dondi mentioned that Gen 2 could arrive from off island, I think humanoids other than Gen 1 were eliminated

[low scarab]

Eliminated? Then how are they being implemented?

[lethal moat]

Arriving from off the island

[maiden sundial]

Being dropped off by Æ probably.

[lethal moat]

I mentioned the idea of arriving on boats as an interesting way to get Gen 2 on the island, navigate to either the beach or up the river

[low scarab]

So why do they want gen 1 on the island?

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 probably never left

[low scarab]

I mean aren’t they maybe competition for the replicators

[maiden sundial]

The gen 1 never left.

[low scarab]

^

[lethal moat]

That’s Gen 2

[low scarab]

Oh oops I read your message wrong

[lethal moat]

lol

[low scarab]

lol whoops but it does arise the question of why not just kill off the gen 1 what purpose do they serve

[lethal moat]

Replicator makes gen 1 on the island, they protect their creator

[maiden sundial]

Replicator can make them

[low scarab]

Ah right forgot

[maiden sundial]

That and also said Gen 1 were likely good for experiments

[meager junco]

Plus AE probably didn’t wanna destroy Gen 1 despite being somewhat of a “failed” experiment in their eyes, left them in some sort of containment until the incidents started happening and multiple assets escaped

[lethal moat]

I want to assume Gen 1 arrived shortly before the fall, because of my theory of Gen 1 revolution

[meager junco]

It’s either a gen 1 revolution that started this, or one of the extremely dangerous creatures escaped like echidna and it just went haywire from there

[lethal moat]

I’m thinking multiple things at once

[maiden sundial]

I mean it could be assumed that the gen 1 would be considered "footsoldiers" of a rebellion

[lethal moat]

I like to think of it like that, echidna being the leader, replicator providing logistics, something like that, depending on how many gen 1 there were, the rebellion could have lasted less than a day

[meager junco]

Hmmmm

I like that tbh

But what would collosus be

Just a bodyguard for her?

[lethal moat]

Well, we only know of the echidna interacting with gen 1, the other pieces of the trinity could just be operating on their own

[meager junco]

I like to think collosus as like kong

A lone big boi on a Dino island

[lethal moat]

This theory is under the assumption that the island was taken over by Gen 1, now watch as Dondi dashes our hopes and dreams by saying everybody just left the island peacefully

[lethal moat]

That’s a good way to think of it

[meager junco]

Don’t jinx it

[meager junco]

But we know that’s definitely not the case by looking at the state of things when they were left

[lethal moat]

I’d rather know for sure on this tbh

[lethal moat]

Probably not, but what if they left with the intention of sending in Gen 2 someday

[meager junco]

That’s assuming they always had Gen 2 in mind

[lethal moat]

I mean, if Gen 1 exists, I would presume that they were planning for Gen 2

[meager junco]

But yeh I can see them preparing for some kind of chaos event and planned on Gen 2 to come back

[meager junco]

They could’ve maybe been called something else before gen 2 arrived

[lethal moat]

So unless Gen 1 came into existence after AE left the island, I would say that Gen 2 were always in the plan

[brazen idol]

https://tenor.com/view/woman-woman-lore-woman-meme-gif-25236397

[lethal moat]

True, but I think that Gen 1 was an experiment to create Gen 2 that didn’t work

[lethal moat]

Misogynistic but alright

[meager junco]

Yeh hoping we get some backstory to how it started and what was the plan all along aka perfect human or something in those lines

I say perfect human but I see them more as the perfect soldiers/workers

[lethal moat]

Knowing more about the replicator and the fall could make our assumptions on Gen 1 and 2 more accurate

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/please-cat-cute-hoping-gif-14904334

[lethal moat]

I think that Gen 2’s presence on gateway is going to be an experiment as well as recapturing the island, just because of how improperly supplied they are

[meager junco]

Definitely an experiment, throw them into a place that If they fail, they die, rinse and repeat until one of them completes AEs goals

That’s if the replicator doesn’t subdue them

Or echidna from your theory

[lethal moat]

We have a rough assumption on replicator providing gen 1 and dinosaurs mutations, but I wonder if there will be any way to get any sort of perks other than finding certain equipment for gen 2

[meager junco]

I can see replicator doing something similar to what we think eyeless are

A more beast like Gen 2

And I also wonder if she ever grants the reward of a strain

It be kinda crazy but I can see her best of the best getting injected with one to become her ultimate warriors

[low scarab]

I’ve thought of a similar idea before something like the reward is to be sacrificed to her and come back as something more power (strains or bonus mutations)

[meager junco]

I can see it maybe more of a semi strain if that makes sense? Like I think the eyeless is a humanoid/Gen 1 with neuro strain parts but not the full on strain

[lethal moat]

I want to think about the replicator from a point of view as either something just doing its job or as a mother, where it wants its creations to succeed, but it’ll take a distant role and let it’s creations do it on it’s own

[visual yew]

what's the lore implications of latin placeholder text?

[lethal moat]

None

[low scarab]

lol lorem ipsum basically means it has no importance/lore

[lethal moat]

Yet

[visual yew]

it was a joke

[acoustic osprey]

it's not technically latin

[muted reef]

Either this is gonna be VR for us irl or it could work similarly to the vanny mask in security breach

[muted reef]

Echidna playable?

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[meager junco]

That’s just my theory on what eyeless are nothing confirmed

Well I showed it in the lore server so might as well here

[patent ginkgo]

also what do we think the U331 refers to

and theres this

[meager junco]

I was looking at this yesterday and asking the same question to myself

I wanna say Unit-331

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

just another aspect of the unknown

[patent ginkgo]

I think these types of things kinda show that AE is really interested in making sure things for humans are clean and up to some sort of code

[acoustic osprey]

REALLY REALLY interested

seeing as they have many gallons of this stuff

[patent ginkgo]

Like the fact they have their own class of water… this is really restricted stuff

[meager junco]

Could be cool if “clean water” will give us something like 10% extra stam or running/swimming cost

[lethal moat]

I only drink AE brand

[patent ginkgo]

AE class water is the minimum cleanliness I will stand

[meager junco]

Someone make a gif with someone drinking from an AE photoshopped water bottle

[hexed forge]

@meager junco what did you say this could be?

[patent ginkgo]

I think we knew about that before

Also sonic has to do with sound

[hexed forge]

Or

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/hedgehog-sonic-sanik-running-gif-4601984215150332246

[patent ginkgo]

NOOO

[meager junco]

We’re not sure what it is in terms of if it’s the model or the brand

[hexed forge]

Lollll

[patent ginkgo]

Personally I feel like it’s the brand

[hexed forge]

Sonic shoes?

[barren yacht]

Albertosaurus comes to raid thy realm and then dip cause its midnight

[patent ginkgo]

Uh oh

[zenith frigate]

more alberto

[meager junco]

I gotta say that was funny

[silver crystal]

I love Albertosaurus.

My brother told me a Dino was named after me.

I thought it was a joke..

I went to show him, he was actually shocked. Not even knowing he was already speaking about a Dino that was named before I was even give this name.

Though new model looks pretty cool.

[steel summit]

yeah, alberto looks cool

[knotty locust]

i cant believe your name is albertosaurus

[meager junco]

Their name is actually Albertosaurus sarcophagus

[lethal moat]

Entombed Alberto?

[meager junco]

His names Bert, he a special boy

[raven imp]

i've been thinking about it. what if what we see as gameplay is actually just an employee checking up on the dinosaurs

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-little-gif-25979873

[meager junco]

The camera is actually one of the replicator’s drones following the dinosaurs

[raven imp]

[lethal moat]

There is a robo quetz behind each and every dinosaur

[meager junco]

Let a man dream will you!

[lethal moat]

I exist to crush dreams

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-blackish-anthony-anderson-tears-upset-gif-4988274

[raven imp]

i mean... this would indicate i have a dream... in which case please do

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, from the sounds of it.
It's not far off from such

excluding such that Gen2s aren't likely proper fully fledged Employees

[muted reef]

?

Oh

Eh yeah I think its a drone or satellite

[lethal moat]

Hear me out, what if the dinosaurs in 3rd person are just for gameplay and some have lore implications

[muted reef]

Isle in first person 🤮

[lethal moat]

Gen 2 moment

[silver crystal]

Exactly.

[static condor]

@acoustic osprey please present to me augustus lore and things you have concluded so far

[steel summit]

he is entombed

[static condor]

why did they do that

[steel summit]

because he special

[static condor]

where do u think he learned to clibm from

[steel summit]

himself

[lethal moat]

Mutation from the replicator

[static condor]

the replicator mutates stuff?

[steel summit]

or that

[lethal moat]

Not all the dinosaurs are the same, it's not just clones, it changes things as it goes

[static condor]

is that why augustus was able to climb

[lethal moat]

Probably

[static condor]

so then when they found out he could climb they captured him and made more herreras that can climb

[lethal moat]

Yes

[steel summit]

clones replicates

[lethal moat]

Right

[static condor]

How does it do thatr

[lethal moat]

We do not know\

[lethal moat]

We know that it demands sacrifices for some reason, could be related to that

[static condor]

I see

[acoustic osprey]

the importance of such is that we know Dinosaurs can mutate/adapt to their environment
Likely more on the side of random anomalous behaviour genetically

[acoustic osprey]

problem is, that this is more speculation than not

[static condor]

Do you have an idea what they mean when they "entombed" him?

[acoustic osprey]

as the effect of such could be more on the side of accidental unpurpose

• where AE, if, truly, all dinos have a short/fastened lifespan; then theoretically mutations would occur faster

[acoustic osprey]

he served his purpose, I suppose.
Either he died and they kept his template (within OLYMPUS, with The T.O.M.B. likely being within such)

or he isn't placed in The T.O.M.B. ||as we know, from Don, that it's quite basically what it's acronym is; a tomb. Like The GUTS being the guts of Gateway. Which makes me doubt they would place alive things in their, if Augustus is still alive|| and is just kept in a containment section within OLYMPUS

[lethal moat]

We can still hope

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't be bothered if he was dead

would serve more if it was confirmed that entombment is a very literal phrase

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

[static condor]

I see no point in killing em tho

if he mutated perhaps he couldve done some other cool herrera things

[lethal moat]

Easier storage

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't say kill. More so akin to effective sci-fi storage

cryofreezing is a possibility

[static condor]

cryofreezing would make a lot more sense
kind of like in PC genisis trailer the rex in that big tank

[lethal moat]

Perchance

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't guess he naturally died
as the phrase is "relocation and entombment"- and not "relocation then entombment"

[acoustic osprey]

mmhm

[static condor]

that trailer still slaps btw
sad that game never came to fruition

[acoustic osprey]

Me when I walk through the area Apollo keeps their dinosaur profiles

Me when The T.O.M.B.

I do wonder if The T.O.M.B. (well, OLYMPUS) will exist in any sort of map

honestly
Rump, put this question down in the lore server

[lethal moat]

Would love to see stuff in a trailer then have to go find it ourselves a treasure hunt

[lethal moat]

🫡

[acoustic osprey]

(i swear if it's the server room in Perimeter)

but, from my knowledge of racks in Theatre

they are definitely not data-based

[lethal moat]

I feel like GUTS and Tartarus are going to be like an entirely different map than the surface

[acoustic osprey]

but I should double check

[acoustic osprey]

i still hope they are fully accessible

and not only on "X" Official

(on full release of such, that is.)

[static condor]

will there be an apollo files episode featuring herrerasaurus
and if so i want to be an actor in it....

[steel summit]

im probably wrong but tararus could be in the Underground that dondi was talking about in that one stream

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, i don't see why we can't. I'll talk to Hacker about it

[lethal moat]

I phrased that weird, I mean to say that the juxtaposition of the two environments is crazy

[acoustic osprey]

actually @ionic sable

[static condor]

https://tenor.com/view/chica-toy-chica-fnaf-foxy-freddy-gif-938004550236127790

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hog-rider-coc-clash-of-clans-gif-24053135

another question for you about Apollo Files

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm.
Yeah, I honestly hope so.

I wouldn't mind GUTS having, though, the same similar vibe to the artworks of Perimeter

[lethal moat]

Feral dinsaurs vs wild dinosaurs

[static condor]

I guess the question then is what would the plot in that episode be

but thats for the apollo discord

anyways augustus lore

[lethal moat]

Matriarch stuff is better (if only it was official)

[static condor]

Do u think augustus is intelligent to know what cameras are and if so why was he disabling them

[lethal moat]

The lore server brought that up a few times

[static condor]

was he planning on having a midnight snack

[lethal moat]

The majority think it's something to do with a neuro of some sort or the replicator telling him to do something

[steel summit]

nice art

[lethal moat]

Yeah, it's Barracuda's

[acoustic osprey]

wrong person

[lethal moat]

Oopsy

[acoustic osprey]

barracuda

[lethal moat]

I think that's a sign for me to head to bed, peace out all

[acoustic osprey]

lol

ciao

[low scarab]

lol

[quaint compass]

what is tomb!!1

[meager junco]

We’re not 100% sure, it’s some sort of library but a library of what, we don’t know

[quaint compass]

How do i add emojis to my server Nick

[lethal moat]

Wrong chat/server

[low scarab]

will be a beautiful day

[crystal cairn]

this is so cute

[crystal cairn]

I don’t think so no, I think it’s a trained ability or inherited

[static condor]

how so

[crystal cairn]

assuming he knew WHY he was doing it would suggest higher sentience - if TI dino’s are reaching those types of levels of sentience then we have a LOT to either a) be worried about, and b) there’s a lot of explaining to be done

my guess is there’s someone or something pulling the strings behind the scenes. is he intelligent? absolutely, but he has his own drives and needs related to his species (a dinosaur, reptile) that forgo a more human driven type instinct

[static condor]

maybe he went to a prestegious college

[crystal cairn]

get out

what do you think? serious answers only

[static condor]

a human driven type instinct in what kind of way

[crystal cairn]

human driven motivation* I should say rather

destroying security cameras

[static condor]

oh

do u think augustus is alive

[meager junco]

Replicator

[crystal cairn]

possibly mhm

[meager junco]

She might be mutating the animals at a faster rate than gene reconstruction will

She’s definitely mysterious in how she works and what her motives are

But one thing is clear, she hates AE

Hate is a strong word tbh maybe disagree is better

[low scarab]

I dont entirely beleive this it seems like she favors whoever "pleases her" more with sacrifices

[crystal cairn]

her motivations would line up with augustus’ behaviour

[meager junco]

She doesn’t want AE on the islands that’s for sure, like I said hate might be the wrong word, she might have slowly started to corrupt software leading to mutations and possibly escaped creatures

[meager junco]

The camera attacking? I agree it was one of the few theories I had

[static condor]

i thought replicator was an

inanimate object

[meager junco]

Replicator is a Gene reconstruction machine as far as we can tell
She seems to have her own motives it’s why a lot think she’s sentient

[patent ginkgo]

Ai, so kinda

[static condor]

ah

what makes it a she

[meager junco]

Well her goddess presence on Gen 1 for one

They worship it like a goddess

[crystal cairn]

does it “birth” things? maybe that as well

[meager junco]

Well kinda

I’ll let jolly explain as they’re typing

[patent ginkgo]

Who knows, my theory is something of a machine to both ai generate new dna sequences and then create the embryos via CRISPR or smth

[meager junco]

I really hope that she’s not just a machine in a lab, and she has like Dino bodies and human bodies piled up and are attached to her

[patent ginkgo]

I view the replicator as something you can kinda give a prompt (like “make an animal similar to a T. rex but/and…) and it’ll find a suitable whole genome to create that organism when it’s put into a cell

[meager junco]

That could be a good idea for rewards from her

[patent ginkgo]

I could see her having probes into like lab grown flesh of her creations and other things to take “inspiration” from

[meager junco]

I love that

[patent ginkgo]

I would also love it if she takes care of like massive botany labs that grow tons of fun plants

[meager junco]

Ofc you’d love that

But same, I want to see some weird plants that are like half Dino or half gen 1/2, showing how she’s just creating anything from everything

[lethal moat]

The replicator having feelings is an interesting concept

[meager junco]

She seems to have them but it’s so hard to know without confirmation lol

[lethal moat]

We just don’t know anything

Replicator stuff in the devblog today hopefully?

[patent ginkgo]

All lore in the devblog today hopefully?

[meager junco]

Don’t get my hopes up
But I hope don knows we’ve been really patient and we’ll get a lil something special

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/*singing-iii-don't-wanta-lot-for-christmas-hwang-chi-yeul-person-human-clothing-gif-17831595937286956390

[meager junco]

All I want for Christmaaaas is Loooore

[lethal moat]

I just had a gross thought

There are a couple of parallels between the isle lore and the phineas and ferb theme song

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-no-no-no-tanklorde-gif-25785566

[patent ginkgo]

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/unsee-gif-8002623

[fathom hazel]

new to islecord here did we learn anything from the blank sheets as of last phase three anouncement

[meager junco]

those are for isle players and fans to make their own species glance sheets

[fathom hazel]

I see thank you

[meager junco]

No problem at all

[acoustic osprey]

No, as per Shadow said.
This was just an aspect for us the community to make their own fun fan lore

[acoustic osprey]

would be crazy if this month we got Gen2 stuff

[meager junco]

I’d love anything that has to do with AE and the human aspects tbh, something like vehicles could be nice

But those would only be in prototype stages

[acoustic osprey]

mmmh

[lethal moat]

The jokes about AE class water is making me think: What if gen 2 have a JP lysine situation?

[acoustic osprey]

I wonder if this is the end of the "Private Contractor" doors

ironically enough, I put the term on Rump's doc today

before, till now did I realise this would occur.

but
Confirmation on the keycards is great

As well to further the future human interaction and gameplay loop, I’ve designed our new keycards

at least it'll be used in gameplay

[lethal moat]

Depending on where the aquadic gates are, could imply what/where AE is trying to keep safe and potentially any other creatures if we find them in weird spots

[acoustic osprey]

in reference to which thing?

[acoustic osprey]

ah yes

might be connected to the fence near K15?

[lethal moat]

Maybe, I can see different sizes as well, hyper aquatic gates being what immediately comes to mind, to finish off the sectors and close them out

Also, the size could matter, what keeps a deino out won't necessarily keep a beipi out

Beipis jumping through holes in aquadic gates could be fun

[acoustic osprey]

hard to really comment on such

i suppose

[lethal moat]

Those cloning vat showcases would be interesting to see

Different amounts of reinforcement for interior/exterior doors could exist, which is how things are irl

Wonder if those 'small changes' Vis mentioned could be papers, or something else that could have environmental storytelling

[acoustic osprey]

I believe it's Tap and Seiza who do the actual lore stuff, alongside Don

but Tap's section is pretty interesting

[lethal moat]

The fact that there are tanks for large/medium specimens implies that at some point they were grown entirely inside a tube

[acoustic osprey]

aye, will be interesting
have to note it down in the unknown terms section

[steel summit]

dondi has said that Ben is a tube boi (in a tank) so probably

[lethal moat]

Right, but what about extra large tanks for things that grow larger than average?

[acoustic osprey]

"Cloning" tanks though

[steel summit]

early hyper testing?

[acoustic osprey]

😊

[lethal moat]

I want to think so

[steel summit]

that would certainly be fun

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-summer-scary-scared-creepy-gif-17494278817868935582

[acoustic osprey]

note the term specimen 😊

[lethal moat]

Not dinosaurs...

[acoustic osprey]

update doc whenever you can Rump, please

[steel summit]

plants are specimen

[acoustic osprey]

Gen2s are as well!!

[steel summit]

gen 1 as well

[lethal moat]

Assorted others: Megalania, Pteradon, matriarch, gen 1 & 2

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/878394674908381217/1179766564665430016/okayowl.gif?ex=657afa3c&is=6568853c&hm=a803053af22e94f6a11103b58eafa00e41d65e9d93b2843f581884b41dbed22a&

[steel summit]

i dont think matriarch this soon, sorry

[lethal moat]

Point is, the tanks are non-discriminatory, other than size

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-little-gif-25979873

[steel summit]

yep

[young summit]

Does anyone know how the sanctuaries tie into the lore? There seems to be plenty of things about them that seem like they are being controlled by something

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-ben-laugh-ho-ho-ho-gif-25061559

[steel summit]

also if we go by what we think the matriarch is it wouldnt need more than a jar, not even a tank, because it starts off so small

[lethal moat]

If they do tie into lore, we haven't heard anything yet

[lethal moat]

Tapwing specifies small tanks

[steel summit]

yep, though by small i think more like herrera sized, not juvie troodon sized

[lethal moat]

M a n y in one tank

Matriarch soup

[lethal moat]

I wouldn't call herrera small tier, more lower mid

[steel summit]

i call omni small tier (the very top mind you)

[lethal moat]

It's a fuzzy distinction

[steel summit]

because i think of all the planned species

[lethal moat]

Something that I just thought of

Most of the doors have vents in them, which makes me think hazmats are more for protection of assets rather than protection of individuals

[steel summit]

vents?

https://tenor.com/view/amogus-gif-21954992

[lethal moat]

The little slits at the bottom allow for airflow

[steel summit]

yeah i see, nice

but maybe vents all around the underground that small creatures like troodon can travel through, that could be fun

[lethal moat]

Also, you had best bet I'm going to try to pull on those push doors in game to see what happens

[lethal moat]

Maybe in GUTS, but that's speculation at this point

[steel summit]

i mean more gameplay esque, you know since the underground will probably be this massive place with a lot human players, so easy access and travel for human hunters would be very good game design in my opinion, but yeah

[lethal moat]

It would be cool

Wonder if you'll be able to shoot out the windows or through certain doors as a gen 2

[steel summit]

probably, hope so atleast

[lethal moat]

Human weapons testing was touched on, wonder if we'll be seeing anything new on that soon

Devblog had some cool mechanics and testing and stuff, as well as some lore implications, and it's the same month of a major update, 8.5/10

[acoustic osprey]

shame we didn't in this

[lethal moat]

Hm?

[lethal moat]

Back to the vents in the doors, the dude in the troodon feast art that we saw was not wearing a hazmat suit, but the others were, which makes me think either the 1 dude broke protocol or any/all of our hazmat suit assumptions are incorrect.

[acoustic osprey]

seeing the human stuff

[sour rivet]

For sure humans on top

[acoustic osprey]

^

[remote dew]

I have a theory.........

[sour rivet]

A game theory ?

[low scarab]

I’m interested in this too maybe like the climbing Herrera was cloned to isolate the climbing behavior

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1145482154109849701/1180286551431847986/Screen_Shot_2023-12-02_at_10.17.14_am.png?ex=657cde82&is=656a6982&hm=74e61c071c06e3d42ffb71a6b535e29c1532c7c74b2a8a88e12f678f8390596b&

big shame with the 717 area

[hexed forge]

The 717 area if jace messed up the north gate

the 717 area if the south gate is messed up

And finally-

potential new fence locations

[lethal moat]

Unless 717 just takes up a really weird shape, since we know the fences aren’t sealed, though we don’t know if the fences are meant to be entirely enclosed

[meager junco]

I mean maybe they also get split in half at some points, that’s going with the theory they wanted the animals fenced in, I doubt they wanted Dino’s to be all mixed up like all apex’s together

[hexed forge]

Update, since there is a gate and a fence to the right underground(Green area) There might be a fence going east more

[lethal moat]

I could see the domes being a sort of filter between the sectors

[hexed forge]

Doubt

717 is a sector and it doesnt have a dome, I wonder if 717 also includes south island

[lethal moat]

We really need to get a comprehensive fence map

[lethal moat]

Comes really close to that East dome

[hexed forge]

Well, your theory might be correct, if the devs messed up the south gate

[hexed forge]

Which would mean this

and the 10 17 area being the east coast one

[lethal moat]

Let’s see if we can gauge anything by overlaying all the fences and human structures

[hexed forge]

wdym

[lethal moat]

We should map out all the existing gates and fences, and look at their relationship to the structures, see what they protect or seal in

[hexed forge]

did that

[hexed forge]

This is what I got

[lethal moat]

The fences aren’t continuous, which is weird, or it could just mean it’s incomplete

[lethal moat]

What about the rest of the map?

[hexed forge]

yes they def continue, I just didnt want to speculate beyond because no fences or buildings to be able to link to, I can try tho

I shall try and see what my dumb brain can come up with

[lethal moat]

🫡

Good luck soldier

[hexed forge]

@lethal moat Im stuck, cant see how I can extend this face(The direction im facing just leads to a path up to a human building)

gonna try another fence

[lethal moat]

Sad

[hexed forge]

OH I GOT SOMETHING COOKING REAL GOOD

[lethal moat]

Spill the tea

[hexed forge]

Green(Fences on the map that are not listed on the virtual map), Purple(speculated fences), Red(Added gates)

[lethal moat]

Hm

[hexed forge]

What do you think?

[lethal moat]

Looks like we’re starting to get some sort of enclosed area, I like to

[hexed forge]

Enclosing the dome

Also how come no one noticed the broken hyper fence, and a path leading down the volcano caused by a big creature

[hexed forge]

wdym by "I like to" Or was it autocorrected to "to" lol

[lethal moat]

Was supposed to be ‘it’

[lethal moat]

Where is the broken hyper fence?

Coordinates that is, we might be able to see if we can see a path from the other broken fence

Where did it come from/where did it go ( where did you come from Cotten eyed Joe)

[hexed forge]

Give me like 15 min, I'm doing something

[hexed forge]

Where is the second broken one?

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

I've seen the fence
just never thought much of it

[acoustic osprey]

Volcano

[lethal moat]

Is there any sort of path between the two broken fences

[hexed forge]

Yes, during the start, idk about after, ima try testing it

And where is the second broken fence? @lethal moat

[lethal moat]

The corridor and the bridge at the ne area

[hexed forge]

Close to the bunker.. interesting

[lethal moat]

Mhm, I want to see if we can estimate a path

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-got-you-got-you-crash-and-eddie-see-yah-gif-15359229

[lethal moat]

Appreciate it

[hexed forge]

no path

mustve happened during the great incident, and the foliage regrew

[lethal moat]

Right, but is there a straight line without obstacles that you could make between the points

[hexed forge]

But this path is perfectly fine, ends however. probably takes longer to regrow cuz of the bad soil

[hexed forge]

Define straight line...

[lethal moat]

Are there any major obstacles between them

[hexed forge]

So in a STRAIGHT line, there are... just a fence

And a rocky ravine river

[lethal moat]

Hmm

[hexed forge]

HOWEVER, I think i found a potential path that it mightve took through the grasslands and a across the river

but then- erm, I dont think it makes sense

yeah nvm

[lethal moat]

Gah

[hexed forge]

actually, like there is a 40% chance it might be right

but then it doesnt because why tf would it be breaking that fence

the fence is facing towards the forest, same with the debri, that means the creature broke INTO the forest area

[lethal moat]

There is a GUTS entrance close to there

[hexed forge]

The forest area? Or the near the fence, because there is one right there

[lethal moat]

Go down the corridor to the one right there

[lethal moat]

Yis

[hexed forge]

So you are saying it came from the gut thing? Ran down the corridor, potentially took the route that I made, and tried breaking back into the facility?

[inner willow]

can some one help with my steam problems?

[lethal moat]

Anything is possible

[acoustic osprey]

either #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧 or ask in #offtopic-discussion

[lethal moat]

https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/855527844670865438 Ask that here

[hexed forge]

That theory is possible.... the fence at the volcano was being broken into from the outside... not from the volcano..

[lethal moat]

It’s weird

[hexed forge]

Unless its just another missplaced thing same with the 717 situation

Truly the greatest piece of lore

[lethal moat]

Time to summon Dondi by talking about how the stam system is important to lore

[hexed forge]

mission failed

[acoustic osprey]

the more you move, the more tired you get
so, therefore, when you sit, the heart slowly regains stability

rather than a linear route, which is pretty boring and relatively not truly accurate

[hexed forge]

mission is failing even more

[acoustic osprey]

an exponential route fits better, as the longer the person rests,
theoretically they stabilise faster

where the first initial seconds are rough and slow, you are still tired

[lethal moat]

Has anybody tried completing the dance of doom? (Look it up it’s a great song)

[lethal moat]

The path is wack

If both fences were broken by the same thing

[hexed forge]

I don't think he is talking about that

[lethal moat]

Just trying to open up the possibility of multiple escaped

[meager junco]

If Tartarus is at least somewhat still relevant to strains and all that, and volcano possibly being the entrance to it, I can see something escaping from there, but it honestly could’ve just ran through GUTS for a while before getting to where volcano is

I also rather the second option which would suggest it created chaos in its path

[lethal moat]

Brings us back to not knowing exactly what Tartarus is, nor the Zeus, Hades, or Poseidon entrances

[hexed forge]

Which there are no traces of except its possible escape area

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-scream-nooo-no-gif-17534967

[hexed forge]

Zues enterance on the highest point of the map, hades volcano, poseidon, underwater entrance

[meager junco]

Would make sense, but we can’t disclose anything until we know the surface of the map is complete, we might even get some sort of tracks close to where the broken fences are

That or some broken down trees(the really big ones) jolly would know the name

[hexed forge]

There are tracks near the broken fences(unless referring to footprints)

[meager junco]

Footprints

[hexed forge]

ah then none

Also there is a possibility of the island once being under high radiation right?

[meager junco]

We’ll see soon, I have a feeling 2024 is gonna be a great year for lore

[meager junco]

Not sure

[hexed forge]

Not 100% how radiation works, but Im pretty sure it causes shadows/footprints to be just... uh.. printed on the concrete?

[meager junco]

Oh I see wym

Idk if the island did tbh, jolly might know, they’re looking into the ecosystem quite a lot

[hexed forge]

There is a human building of where there are footprints like... on the floor, not washable/not mud

[meager junco]

Dried blood

Turns black

That or oil

[hexed forge]

@patent ginkgo There is a possibility of the island being under high radiation at sometime right?

[hexed forge]

hmmmmmmmmm, but could still be radiation right

[meager junco]

Jolly might get you your answer on that, I think it’s just either blood or oil personally, since the tracks go back a lot, I think people were just in a rush to evacuate and most likely ended up spilling oil barrels or something in the panic

[hexed forge]

Isle prequel game/mode of where you play as a human and experience the events that caused the collapse please!!! I beg!! LOREE

[acoustic osprey]

well, radio frequency radiation

quite interestingly enough

Radio frequency fields

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/parks-and-rec-andy-dwyer-chris-pratt-jaw-drop-shocked-gif-4421172

[lethal moat]

Technically, light is radiation

[meager junco]

So it wouldn’t cause radiation shadows?

[hexed forge]

[meager junco]

That was more a question

[acoustic osprey]

me too!?

[lethal moat]

Yes

[patent ginkgo]

hold up, aren't radio waves not dangerous?

[lethal moat]

Depends

Radio waves themselves aren’t but it’s still a spectrum

[meager junco]

I think they are buy it’s not like nuclear radiation, I think it’s the same effect but on a much slower pace

[lethal moat]

Kinda

[meager junco]

Also like rump it depends on the frequency

[lethal moat]

Period and Amplitude change what type of wave it is, what it does, and how dangerous it is

[meager junco]

Do we have information on how dangerous the ones at the bases are?

[lethal moat]

Likely microwave or radio, which are only dangerous with intense contact for a decent period of time

[patent ginkgo]

ok so it seems from a quick google search that radio waves are only potentially dangerous at extremely high intensities, so for it to be dangerous we would have to have soo many radio wave producers

[meager junco]

Makes sense why AE never seemed to keep people at the bases, at least not for long periods of time

[lethal moat]

This seems a bit off topic tbh, we don’t have any suspicion of significant radiation other than hazmat suits, which have multiple uses

[meager junco]

I think it’s got something to do with biotrace

I can’t help but feel like it’s something on a cellular level like a virus

[lethal moat]

Maybe, I think it’s just something’s genetic code that is recorded so that it can be replicated

[meager junco]

That’s a good one

[hexed forge]

Troodons..... what did don say about them? That they are... an evolved version of some other dino.... what caused them to evolve...?

look at the pic in the oct. devblog

Somethin to do with biotrace I think

[lethal moat]

Check the dev quotes thing in the lore server

Iirc Biotrace is only mentioned in Augustus video and possibly the character menu top left

[patent ginkgo]

it was a situation of a character wondering "what if we do this?" to some dinosaur

[meager junco]

I’m checking rn but can’t see biotrace

That woulda backed your theory up 100%

[lethal moat]

We’ll see what else we will learn

[hexed forge]

"Lemme add some rex dna, giga dna, oooo some of this weird dna called matriarch, oo I might also add some spino dna into this raptor"

Last experiment before the incident

[meager junco]

I mean we know the Dino’s are tracked most likely so I wouldn’t be surprised biotrace is something that keeps track of the Dino’s and creatures on the island and in containments

[lethal moat]

Matriarch supremacy

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-perhaps-family-guy-thinking-gif-13587558

[meager junco]

Seeing as 291 had none and they seemed to not truly know who or what they were(or the information wasn’t given)

[lethal moat]

Replicator doing stuff without supervision maybe

[meager junco]

Wouldn’t doubt it at all, I like the idea that she somehow let a gen 1 escape and made contact with her, the first of many

[mortal hound]

is that the guy from fortnite

[lethal moat]

I will invert your sinuses

[celest basin]

would be cool if humans can use the buildings

and tame dinos

[lethal moat]

Dino taming, not anymore, using buildings, yeah, they’ll be able to repair bases and reactivate them

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-suspect-gif-22611582

[celest basin]

[deep rampart]

I would connect it in a jurrasic world way but is it relevant to think humans tried to recreate dinos and failed?

[lethal moat]

Nope, they technically aren't dinosaurs, just imitations of them

[deep rampart]

SAY WHAAAAAA-?

[lethal moat]

Made a creature without any dinosaur DNA that looks like a dinosaur and acts like a dinosaur

[lethal moat]

The lore must flow

[deep rampart]

Thats just a theory, A GAME THEORY

[lethal moat]

So how much do you want to know about what we already know?

[deep rampart]

What the island the dinos live on is and why there are human settlements. Whenever I go to them my screen gets a weird glitch also

[lethal moat]

Oh god you're on legacy

[lethal moat]

That version of the game is 5 years out of date

[deep rampart]

Bruv, Legacy is so much fun

Evrima with its unreal engine is not my taste tbh

[lethal moat]

Legacy lore is dead, I cannot help you

[deep rampart]

Thanks for that tough guy

Legacy does have SOME lore tho

[lethal moat]

Legacy is getting yeeted and the lore for legacy was scrapped years ago, I literally cannot help you

[deep rampart]

Why nobody playing legacy anymore T. T

[lethal moat]

Evrima is better in my opinion, and also we have better lore

[deep rampart]

But less dinos

[lethal moat]

More mechanics, but this isn't lore talk, Evrima needs time to develop

[deep rampart]

And im a new player sooooo

[lethal moat]

Evrima lore > legacy lore

[deep rampart]

Leave me with the lore, lore merchant

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit Godspeed

[deep rampart]

[lethal moat]

Fear the Tide that is Evrima coming to destoy Legacy

[deep rampart]

Imma be honest, the isle devs are one of the most disliked devteam among games

[quaint compass]

Legacy will be fun until you realise its not even getting updated anymore

[lethal moat]

Cool, doesn't matter for lore tho

[deep rampart]

Im used to that

[deep rampart]

leave me with the lore MatPat, I dont play the isle for the lore

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/then-why-are-you-here-ian-mcshane-mr-wednesday-american-gods-why-are-you-here-gif-18699203

[quaint compass]

Then why are you in isle lore theories

[lethal moat]

🤜 🤛

[deep rampart]

Wrong channel gentlemen

Imma head right out

[lethal moat]

Good morning to you, strange gentleman

[quaint compass]

https://tenor.com/view/stop-shoo-spray-gif-22413550

Either way, cloning tanks

[lethal moat]

Looking forward to seeing the showcase and what;s inside the tanks/room

[quaint compass]

So funnily enough, i actually saw the cloning tanks in pce and was like, hey that would be a cool addition to the isle around a week ago

[lethal moat]

Lol

[balmy moat]

the isle

[acoustic osprey]

watch Lightclaw's videos!!

[mortal hound]

no self promo!!!!

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1178675633371488318/2030AC20-626A-4D56-B9C5-C27CA40B0CB0.gif?ex=65770239&is=65648d39&hm=02e85f8c9db62716fd03ce9a04290164ca466cea32f52f345ca31543258899f9&

[fallow harbor]

almost the same amount

[brazen idol]

https://tenor.com/view/theisle-utah-runni-gif-22957656

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1145482154109849701/1180589476788052039/32b54481be27f7758c795599c60fe844.png?ex=657df8a1&is=656b83a1&hm=ee9362d33490cab0d3c14f2c964fdd622f01fb1d07dfadd7fd8d07acf98db747&
funny minute problems

120V vs CERT Junction 220V
PLUS
this runs at 60Hz
and 220V is (would be) 50Hz

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1075728903848607815/1180562149978931300/99405ce437d1a95490e52bf6c09962810489f8e6.png?ex=657ddf2e&is=656b6a2e&hm=16c5bd86e04512b0745b972e4cbe77c07712f96e78d6aa9af30b338e0609752b&
230 V

[lethal moat]

God damn it

[fallow harbor]

ima make how i think "prime apollo operations" would look in jwe2, any tips?

[lethal moat]

We really just don't know, my guess is a bunch of intelligence in one building or just have it off-site

[fallow harbor]

im doing on site, gateway operations

[lethal moat]

Underground or just well defended structure

[fallow harbor]

ight

[low scarab]

We are digging so hard for lore we are finding mistakes and spelling errors

[fallow harbor]

whats a dinosaur you guys think appollo would mainly test on/test on a lot

[low scarab]

Omniraptor

[fallow harbor]

does velociprator look enough like omni raptor?

[low scarab]

Why?

[fallow harbor]

im trying to make prime apollo gateway operations in jwe2

[low scarab]

lol sure

[acoustic osprey]

oh yes, quite fun 😊

[fallow harbor]

what i ***attempted ***to make was prime apollo in gateway in jwe2

the first part was a medical testing facility for the raptors and the giant open emtpy space enclosed by fence was the hyper arena thing (i didnt know what to put there)

then we have the forest-y area (idk) its supposed to have trikes and gigas and paras and albertos but u can see how that went.

then there is a swamp, its supposed to have a bunch of stuff like suchos corys and things like that but then again they didnt care if they starved so they just walked away

then there is the 2nd forest that has walmart augustus and some stuff that wanderd off from the swamp, next to it is a sort of power center for everything.

then i have the sand pit area with pachys. i made this so the rex would stay there (rexes like sand for some reason) and then there is just a little base for basic operations.

then there is the plains that has stegos, carnos etc. its the only place that actually had all of its speices there so it looks more complete.

i made the dinosaurs not fight eachother so it didnt turn into the highlands in gateway and i made then take food and water so they would be somewhat forced to stay in there habitats or else they would starve (as u can see they didnt really care but it was worth a shot)

i know its not very accurate and its prolly very differant from what u were expecting but i tried and i think it couldve come out way better but i also dont think it came out that bad.

[patent ginkgo]

lol I was doing the same type of thing earlier and chose the same map

[fallow harbor]

show us

[steel summit]

why is augustus a proceratosaurus when herrerasaurus is actually in the game as well

[fallow harbor]

cuz the herrerasurus looks like a giant lizard

[steel summit]

aight

[fallow harbor]

procerato actually looks like augustu

[feral cape]

There’s a question is Legacy still going to be a thing or not cause I really do like legacy

[pure lodge]

They’re scrapping it eventually

When? We don’t know

Been stated MANY times they were going to do it in the past but we still have it

[feral cape]

How much you wanna bet they’ll never do it and they’ll just leave it up, but never update it that would be OK with me

[patent ginkgo]

Not that much of a lore theory, is it

[pure lodge]

yeah

i kinda hope they make a specific video for dilo like they did with herrera where it's implied the individual in the video is an abnormality

if they do i hope the dilo would be Menes who fittingly was the first person to create poison

[low scarab]

That would be a huge missed opportunity if they didn’t make something similar for dilo

[patent ginkgo]

We at least need a properly spooky dilo TCAM

[meager junco]

Here’s hoping dilos venom is something similar to Augustus’s Climbling where it developed it out of nowhere, so we can get something like Augustus’s video

[patent ginkgo]

Ngl I hope we get some glance sheets for dilo Herrera and dibble

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cooler-if-you-did-gif-11144712

[fallow harbor]

i hope we get glance sheets for every dino, including the ones that are already released

it would be like the in lore concept art if that makes sense

[patent ginkgo]

True

[fallow harbor]

it would describe the animals and what they do and where they roam

[meager junco]

Did they ever say if the gallis that had feathers were eradicated or something? Since we only have non feathered ones

[patent ginkgo]

No I don’t think so

[patent ginkgo]

so i know that isnt serious... but i have no idea what you even said

[lethal moat]

Same

[midnight igloo]

Average islecord moment

[calm badge]

what if AE is being run by reptilians who want to mutate human-dino hybrids?

[lethal moat]

AE is human company

[calm badge]

Yes but who are its investors

[lethal moat]

Good question

[maiden sundial]

I mean its possible that they're still pharma, genetics, and agriculture. Which means a lot of money from drugs, food, and other investments. Likely several grants from countries

[signal pivot]

AE underground drug distributer

[maiden sundial]

I meant prescription dru- I just realized you joking

[coarse shell]

I think AE is a company that supplies the military - or a distant branch of the military, possibly urban

[patent ginkgo]

No military

[lethal moat]

No military, no aliens, GRADIC customs may or may not be an AE subsidiary, we don’t know

[haughty vortex]

i just found out that on both pictures there is the same blood drop myb it has a meaning

[lethal moat]

Perchance, but it could also be dirt from aging since the island has been abandoned for awhile

[haughty vortex]

with that one its the same myb these are the papers before somebody drawd into them cus they look older

[lethal moat]

The blank ones have no lore significance, just stuff for fan made things

[bleak flint]

Reaching

[haughty vortex]

Aaaah sorry didnt knew that

[lethal moat]

Is fine, you seen the lore documents yet?

[haughty vortex]

the what?

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hulk-taco-smile-gif-15840669

The Isle Lore Theory Document - Containing all keywords and information you need to know https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[midnight igloo]

Just wondering do the gen ones have a cannon height? My best guess based off what I’ve seen is like 8 feet

[lethal moat]

There is a height comparison in last months devblog

[void apex]

They're in that ballpark assuming that the human comparison is around average height

Dondi said that we humans come up to their lower shoulder

[midnight igloo]

Ye I just wanted other opinions cause they look hunched over in em

[lethal moat]

My bet is they’ll be hunched over a bit in game as well

[young summit]

How do you guys think gen 1 gameplay will be like? It feels like they are gonna be unlockable in some way

[lethal moat]

Climbing and cultish, where you sacrifice things to the replicator for upgrades

[meager junco]

Anything for the Replicator

[lethal moat]

Yis

[lethal moat]

https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/dashboard/episode/e2cqkhd/details We got a ton of theories in here so I don't feel bad about posting it here

[proud loom]

Maybe The Isle is post-apocalyptic and the island is abandoned because the apollo dudes did something real stupid

[patent ginkgo]

I mean… there was an incident on gateway at least

[meager junco]

Dondi said he tried something like that but it got scrapped

[proud loom]

Sad

[lethal moat]

How much you know about isle lore?

[proud loom]

Nothing that can’t be gleaned from the game and its developmental history

[lethal moat]

You want to join the lore server?

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-bart-simpson-join-us-sit-here-gif-15631014

[gilded ember]

[lethal moat]

You want in too? We just started a podcast

[fallow harbor]

podcast for isle lore is crazy 😭 send link

[lethal moat]

@fallow harbor

[lethal moat]

https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/rumplestiltskin/episodes/The-Isle-Lore-Podcast-Episode-1-The-Replicator-e2cqkhd

There we go

[fallow harbor]

this one works

i dont wanna be a bully

so i wont

nvm

[lethal moat]

There is a lot of room for improvement

[meager junco]

Definitely so any feedback is appreciated 😂

[fallow harbor]

one of the guys mics sounds like he is in a cave

[meager junco]

That’s me

[fallow harbor]

a plastic cave

[meager junco]

Yeh I definitely need a new mic especially if I wanna be on future podcasts

I just did it cause I was interested in it but didn’t think it be something I’d wanna keep doing

[lethal moat]

I needed another person because otherwise it would just be an awkward dude rambling for 10- minutes about an artificial intelligence and messing stuff up

[meager junco]

Yeh and it was really enjoyable, we talked for almost 40 minutes without even thinking about the time

[lethal moat]

I had fun and made lore content with very little effort, which is what I was going for.

[patent ginkgo]

Defeatpete in the lore podcast wen

[lethal moat]

We could ask sometime, maybe when we learn more about the aquatic gates.

[patent ginkgo]

That’s a good idea

[meager junco]

Need an episode where we cover gateway itself, we can scratch the surface of GUTS and all that but we need to make one where we describe the bases, the domes, the ecosystem

We kinda touched some of those but not to an extreme level

[lethal moat]

Nice

I might start putting polls as we do more to see what we should cover next

[meager junco]

That’s a great idea

Actually talk about what people wanna learn about

Not just trying to find that one episode with some details on it

[lethal moat]

Next one I'm thinking either Augustus videos or covering obscure acronyms/terminology

[meager junco]

That would be nice, Augustus talk would be really nice as we talked about some of the situation

Same with Acronyms on things like GUTS and TOMB

It’s like you said it best, it’s all intertwined, can’t really speak on one subject 😂

[ionic sable]

[lethal moat]

I cannot talk bymyself, which is the reason I'd make a terrible polititian

[lethal moat]

I feel like tissos are going to have some sort of ability that makes them more dangerous, because what we’ve guessed about the so far, they are significantly less dangerous than the other strains, maybe something that would let them see other hiding things, like thermal vision, since most of their other stuff is passive as well

[meager junco]

I see tissos definitely being more of a human hunter strain than neuro is like some people have suggested, if tissos are still smaller, than a strain designed to kill humans sounds up that alley, Ik we’ve ruled out military for sure, but I can see AE sending a tisso Dino onto someone who’s gone rogue on the islands, this is before anything of AEs fall with the replicator ofc , when they thought they’d control everything

[lethal moat]

Definitely more for smaller things, if what we’ve seen from legacy stays, thermal vision to hide things in bushes could fit that aesthetic

And by seen from legacy I mean guess

[iron anchor]

stealth is badass and op if done correctly

id imagine it being like troodon where it slowly can take down anything

just depends on the player

utilizing the abilities correctly

[meager junco]

I kinda like how you made a comparison to troodon, cause I see tisso Dino’s like tisso Rex or tisso giga just swarming a sauropod and pouncing on it, taking chunks of meat and jumping off

[iron anchor]

yeah thats how i pictured it, a swarm of tissos quickly appearing from nowhere, attacking the prey, and going back to invisibility

[meager junco]

Especially since we knew legacy had 12 reapers and not 1, maybe the whole legacy reaper isn’t canon but maybe having tissos in numbers is something that’s still in the mix of it

[iron anchor]

i cant help but imagine them as pack creatures lol

when i think of tisso i think of the best tactical teams we have on earth

[meager junco]

That’s why I think tisso might be more on the “personal hit man” for AE on things that are either gone rogue, or things that had escaped but had no means of even getting close to due to the danger of it(example Hyper Rex escapes and the best and quickest way to eliminate the fire, is with more fire)

[lethal moat]

I agree, also, @limber stone I like the pfp

[patent ginkgo]

I could see tissos as kinda like piranhas, were they swarm on prey items

[meager junco]

Definitely, apex’s would be around carnos size and weight I’d say, faster and more vicious up close than any other strains

[iron anchor]

i like that, imo tisso coolest of the strains. but i guess im just hyping up what i think it is

[meager junco]

We all are just one big theory my child

But I definitely love hypers, just cause it’s the OG and what truly got me into the lore for the isle

Seeing old Beaver videos and others seeing hypers would just give me this feeling I can’t express

[lethal moat]

Tisso because of relation to matriarch

[meager junco]

I’d maybe like neuros more or tissos but need official stuff about looks/traits!!!!

[lethal moat]

Facts

[meager junco]

But until that, this boy remains my favourite of any strain Dino’s

(also just realized the other day that he has inner tusks on the upper jaw as well and not just close to the throat)

[iron anchor]

i think we love them because its the only weve seen in action

yeah

i just see a lot more potential in the other 2 strains

[lethal moat]

He also has space for the tusks in the jaws to tuck into

[patent ginkgo]

Its face reminds me of clay

[meager junco]

I mean technically yeh, Hypers would the brutes of it all, including collosus

[meager junco]

He makes me love him more everyday

[iron anchor]

either way i cant wait to see any strain

[meager junco]

Thought those were just like details

[patent ginkgo]

I can’t wait to see any LORE

[iron anchor]

Lol

[meager junco]

That’s true

Augustus was a gem like I said

But we need the Shirley video for Rex release

[iron anchor]

yes

[meager junco]

Would also love if dilo got something completely different, showing us snippets of Ben and showing how dilo is just this nightmare of a creature, lab and out of the lab.

[quaint compass]

Dilo!

[steel summit]

Dlio!

[lethal moat]

Wonder if we'll get any lore in the next trailer thingy on the Isle's yt

[plucky dew]

https://medal.tv/games/the-isle/clips/1H7mO63F-2-ebu/d1337rwlBGr0?invite=cr-MSwwZEIsMTYyMzEwNDg1LA

[iron anchor]

that sounds like wind

damn that’d be creepy though

[lethal moat]

Yeah, probably ambience

[slow delta]

bro how did i miss the new phase three stuff

takes too long to scroll up, if someone decoded something and wants credit for the document ping/dm me, otherwise ill start working on it solo

[meager junco]

Yeh the ambiance sounds can sound like some weird strain creature at times

Not saying you’re wrong but I’ve definitely been fooled by isle ambiance before hehe

[midnight igloo]

ye even tho odds are its just ambiance noise i love to imagine and theorize that it is a strain or something XD

[kindred bobcat]

sounds like a tiny bit of music/ambience

[plucky dew]

https://youtu.be/ebQDK3LbdcY?si=3TpSQamlRHvD5lgC u sure?

[lethal moat]

Yeah, it sounded like ambience to me, were you nearish any human structures?

[plucky dew]

no i was in the middle of highlands

[kindred bobcat]

i mean it could be wedge trolling a bit but its not any lore stuff 100% nor them playing hypo giga, as its not in the game files(to our knowledge)

[lethal moat]

I truely don’t think it was a hyper giga, could have been a ton of other things

[plucky dew]

i think its a kind of easter egg idk u know dondi he likes his teasing

[lethal moat]

We asked him about something similar and he said he didn’t have any of those in game

[plucky dew]

ah okay

[meager junco]

Literally heard a new noise I never heard yesterday as well, game keeps surprising me with the ambiance

[low scarab]

Nah this might be right that’s weird though still ambience probably

[unborn knot]

Just to clarify, strains are basically human Type-H?

[strange shell]

No, they're mutated creatures
Most strains are dinosaurs, but there may be human strains

Type-H is a type of strain
Other types are type-N (neurotenic) and type-T (tissoplastic)
And there might also be a fourth, mysterious type-O

[patent ginkgo]

No, type h is a way to say hyperendocrin, which along with neurotenic and tissoplastic are all three strains. The trinity is the group of all three “human” versions of those strains

[patent ginkgo]

Type o is no longer

[strange shell]

Didn't last long

[patent ginkgo]

Yeah

[unborn knot]

Oh ok thanks. What were the difference between the types?

[lethal moat]

You want the whole lore doc or just the bits?

[unborn knot]

I'll take the doc if that's ok

[lethal moat]

Check the pinned comments

[unborn knot]

I wanna get into this, it seems fun

[lethal moat]

We also have a server for it

[strange shell]

Hyperendocrins are very big, armored, with lots of teeth and muscle and starve constantly
Neurotenics are jelly-like, but they can call forth the power of thunder to smite their foes, among other cool telekinetic abilities
Tissoplastics are spiky and sneaky, but we don't know much more about them That's how sneaky they are

[unborn knot]

Wow cool, so the realer would be tissoplastic

Reaper*

[strange shell]

Yeah but sadly reaper is no longer canon

[lethal moat]

Not really, it just hasn't been reconfirmed yet

[unborn knot]

Aw man that sucks, I was really hoping I could play is a
It

[lethal moat]

Still possible

[strange shell]

edgy af

[unborn knot]

Well, we might not be able to in general but who knows

[lethal moat]

Totally still a possibility

[patent ginkgo]

Matriarch would be cooler

[unborn knot]

True, does the reape have any abilitys?

[strange shell]

It reaps what it has sown

[patent ginkgo]

Dunno

[lethal moat]

We don't know hardly anything about tissos

[unborn knot]

Ah ok.

[lethal moat]

You want to join the lore server?

[unborn knot]

Fs

[lethal moat]

Check DMs

[modest trench]

was driving behind this sketchy truck from this weird AE company. thought i saw something trying to claw out or somethin. prob nothing🤷‍♂️

[patent ginkgo]

[lethal moat]

It's friend shaped

[modest trench]

almost got jumped by a horror beyond my understanding🤦‍♂️

[lethal moat]

Nah, you're good

[meager junco]

They bringing Augustus to see a show on the mainland

[lethal moat]

He's taking his paid vacation

[modest trench]

tartarus is just a semi

[low scarab]

oh really I thought all 3 were confirmed

I hope they get reconfirmed

[lethal moat]

Would be very nice

[low scarab]

I hope they do something similar to what they planned with legacy and to release gen 1 and mess with people at first before opening them entirely to the public

[lethal moat]

Alright, it’s a bit of a stretch, but hear me out

Both the broken hyper fences are near GUTS entrances

One of them is on a cliff

The only thing that I think would be able to climb a cliff, break a hyper fence, and come from GUTS is the matriarch

I can dream

[meager junco]

I wish, would be the first true matriarch sign in any isle version

[lethal moat]

I don’t know anything else big enough to break hyper fences that would either leap off or climb up that cliff

[meager junco]

Only reason I can see it being able to climb and/or leap is if it really has some tisso traits

But alas we’ve never even seen what legacy matriarch was like

[lethal moat]

We know it’s related

[meager junco]

Remember to ask dondi if it actually has a gender(since I’m rarely in here when he speaks about lore)

Really wanna know if it’s an actual “she”

[lethal moat]

And if it does have gender, that implies the existence of more than one

[meager junco]

Something like the “failed N Spinos” in tanks but matriarchs instead would be neat

[nocturne cosmos]

This might not be the case just because it has a gender does not mean their are multiple

[lethal moat]

True, but it implies that at one point, there was at least one other

[nocturne cosmos]

Nah

Could just implies they made it to be female

[steel summit]

yeah, but what is a male specimen then?

[nocturne cosmos]

Have we seen a one that been called male?

[steel summit]

nope

not that i know of atleast

[nocturne cosmos]

Then most likely just the one

They probably made others before it to try and get the right mutation or whatever they did too it

Don’t think they would have succeeded first try

Matriarch is also just a female word so I think that’s where a lot of calling it a she comes from

[steel summit]

that could be it

[nocturne cosmos]

They are probably vastly different and most likely dead now tho

[steel summit]

yeah, matriarch is the name for a female leader

[steel summit]

probably yeah

[tulip igloo]

I wonder if some of the noise from Tartarus can be heard from on gateway, and that's what causes the eerie ambient noises

[lethal moat]

Trees creaking mostly

[patent ginkgo]

No there are metallic screeches, but those are just from any human structure

So very likely not directly related to Tartarus

[hollow void]

Yea i saw it as well... something big and nasty.... i got close and peeped in the claw hole while driving tandem to it in my car and saw a horrible horrible creature inside.... a flucking Cat....

[modest trench]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1176761456394522654/catesaur.gif?ex=65700b82&is=655d9682&hm=9357e07a284ad387f5ad0a54053b6d3c3ec2ed0622b368d728ce02db96f72bfc&

[lethal moat]

Bringing this back up for discussion: Why did Augustus go after cameras?

[strange shell]

Because he was shy

And didn't want to be filmed

[lethal moat]

New theory:

More factions/sides bs, gen 2 against replicator because it's their job, gen 1 with replicator because benefits and knowing where they come from, and dinos against replicator because of unknown reason? maybe for showing favorites

[fallow harbor]

is this real?

[modest trench]

i took it driving to work haha

o the gif yea its real fs

[dusky valley]

Did the replicator make the strains like for example the hyper colossus

[meager junco]

We’re not sure how exactly strains were made, we think the replicator is responsible for them as well but it’s another of those things we don’t truly know yet

[dusky valley]

Fancy seeing you here

[meager junco]

I mean I am a lore nerd hehe, learning under rumps belt

[patent ginkgo]

Dinos could be “against” the replicator due to it having machinery that’s uncomfortable to be around. Like it could produce noises. That the dinos find aggravating, driving them to find the source and destroy it.

[meager junco]

I like to think they aren’t exactly with it, but they also might have that subconscious feeling of knowing where they came from, if we knew if Gen 2 wasn’t made by the replicator, this could back up my theory a bit

[sour rivet]

What if dinosaurs

[meager junco]

What if Isle

[fallow harbor]

i think the isle takes place in a second cold war type situation, where everyones thinks the world could end any day. but it hasnt ended yet. so no world over situation but the world isnt doing to good.

cold war ended. thus apollo abandoned what was happening in gateway n stuff, another cold war like situation happens, apollo starts re-investing into gateway n stuff

maybe they were forced to due to a treaty

what if apollo gets its funding from other countries? and what if there was threat of war to a major funding country if they didnt stop?

what if its abanden the work now and come back to it later in 30 years time or get all of the work destroyed now and restart in 30 years time

also apollo might be european. even more reason why they would feel the need to stop operations. they are right next to russia (or some made up country that is basically russia is the new cold war like situation)

@patent ginkgo

[patent ginkgo]

Danke

[lethal moat]

I like it, well thought out

[fallow harbor]

*maybe * dondi will see it 👀

[meager junco]

Even if he does, he rarely lets us know if we’re right

[fallow harbor]

[pale marsh]

Id wager the dinos indifferent to the replicator
I find it unlikely they'd even understand what it is

Tho that does make me wonder
Would nueros have the capacity to learn and understand advanced concepts such as what the replicator is?

Obvs I don't think a Nuero dino would, cuz have the capacity to learn and the opportunity to learn are different things
But like

Could I teach a Nuero spino or whatever algebra?

[patent ginkgo]

I agree, the Augustus incident was either outside influence or something inherent to the cameras that makes dinos dislike them

[pale marsh]

Unless I misremembering the video
I assumed augustus to simply be curious
As any marginally intelligent (by non sapient predator standards) animal would and should

[patent ginkgo]

Honestly I think we just don’t know enough to answer this, but it’s certainly a good thing to keep in mind

[patent ginkgo]

Perhaps, but he destroyed two cameras and was the only thing capable of climbing to them

[pale marsh]

I doubt that'd ever matter in lore
Outside of maybe some small tidbits
(Idea for Apollo files right there if they haven't already done it)

I just think it's neat

Idk
Two cameras isn't a whole lot. I think it's a stretch to say it's overt aggression/dislike of cameras

[patent ginkgo]

I’d say it constitutes more than just chance, although three attempts would be more conclusive. Either way, its obvious that Augustus had some range of intelligence that enabled him to feel like chewing on a camera was a good idea

[pale marsh]

Smart enough to question if camera are food
Dumb enough to not learn the first time

[patent ginkgo]

He just got too silly

[lethal moat]

The Basilisk’s name is now ‘Big Iron’ and it will not be changing

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/doggo-big-iron-gif-19017452

[lethal moat]

Unless there is a larger caliber of revolver, then I am willing to change it

https://tenor.com/view/big-iron-big-gun-marty-robbins-gif-23220438

[iron anchor]

the 1.0 caliber magnum

[meager junco]

What calibre even is the basilisk-I mean big iron

[iron anchor]

looks like a 45 but idk

[meager junco]

Yeh was curious if dondi said so

[lethal moat]

.357 Winchester

[meager junco]

Oh crap so it’s a Magnum Magnum

https://tenor.com/view/bigger-big-gun-hard-ticket-to-hawaii-kult-movie-gang-gif-14566172

[patent ginkgo]

yeehaw

[meager junco]

Lemme check rq what the actual big iron is

It’s a 44

[lethal moat]

We can go slightly larger and get the real big iron

[meager junco]

What would that be? 50 cal?

[lethal moat]

44 is larger than 357, that’s what I meant

50 cal would be deagle, which would also be sick

[iron anchor]

armor piercing incendiary round when

for the 50 cal deagle that definitely exists

[meager junco]

Ohh okay, yeh I’d like a deagle as well tbh

[lethal moat]

The big(er) iron

[signal pivot]

guns

[clever swallow]

https://youtu.be/jR3HlihkBts?si=gjNMEd36gf087W14

me and my friend made it just for fun and we started the yt channel yesterday so we dont got any subs

[fallow harbor]

put ur camera sensitiviting lower so it looks more smooth

[elder notch]

Oh, I also made 2 videos like that a few weeks ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqa1y7jeoUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p82zfviYC1E

[low scarab]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979068369724645506/1157119905649401856/uPQorVRR.gif?ex=65177363&is=651621e3&hm=aa99e6757083381c801ba4b0d6c146d0832a6ba9446de564cb298153ea60d940&

In the description lol

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/annoyed-disappointed-mad-upset-gif-26051038

[clever swallow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177121203736039445/1183506957689172108/Microsoft_Clipchamp_12_10_2023_3_33_19_PM.png?ex=658895bf&is=657620bf&hm=94558489378f3fb2a5477a93f5ab5806510618ce004d515ff18b9e62d10192c0& thing we made

[wanton condor]

his friend here, here's one of our videos

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6DGDiWS14k&t=12s

[lethal moat]

Are all the non-naturally occurring GUTS tunnels manmade?

[hexed forge]

Did this person find something out?

[ornate crag]

If they're using the actual stars for the night map that means pin point measurements can be taken and you can figure out the latlong of where we are on the globe. Someone should get Niel on this

https://tenor.com/view/science-neil-de-grasse-tyson-gif-4992387

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/its-magic-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-its-miracle-that-incredible-gif-22235034

[lethal moat]

Lets goooo

[hexed forge]

So, confirmed to be in the southern hemisphere?

Rumple said yes

[ornate crag]

Orion only sets in the NW in the southern hemisphere XD

[hexed forge]

So is that a good thing

[ornate crag]

depends idk how far south 🤣 far enough you start getting affected by the antartic flow and then winter comes

[lethal moat]

My bet is SE asia or pacifica

[ornate crag]

you ever catch the active sonar pulse thingy from spiro? wonder if that's back on gateway anywhere? or the sos from the music? cause that's the kinda broadcast you give when you give up on secracy kinda thing

[hexed forge]

Yeah I bet somewhere in the pacific

[hexed forge]

Wdym

[ornate crag]

Evrima OST 7,8, and I think 9 all have ... --- ... and -... that play in them S.O.S. and B. never figured out the B. xD They only played at human structures. There was a ship horn that i swear I heard coming from the north of spiro at night and others told me that they heard it as well, if you sat underwater in the port long enough you could hear an active sonar beep randomly. But not sure if any of that made it to gateway.

[hexed forge]

Anything that was on spiro is not anymore canon pretty sure so pretty sure it doesnt matter on spiro... But on gateway... I think I might have to play ptera for 24 hours to try and get that soundtrack near the coast

Marathons around the island

[patent ginkgo]

Time to study tropical plants native to the southern hemisphere

[lethal moat]

I would like to formally submit a request for a smidgeon of lore

[torn monolith]

Hey guys so I have played the isle for a little bit now and lore wise I am still very confused can anyone recommend a good video where I can catch on the lore so far?

[lethal moat]

Check the pinned comments for lore docs, Lightclaw makes good videos, and we recently started a podcast

[lethal moat]

We also have a lore discord server

[torn monolith]

Thank you very much for taking the time 🧡

[lethal moat]

Np

[fallow harbor]

VELO IS THE DINOSAUR THAT WAS HYBRIDIZED TO MAKE TROODON

BECAUSE it was said that the dinosaurs that made troodon might be playable mgiht no

and velo doesnt have a concept art but it has appeard in concept arts before

[lethal moat]

Perhaps

[iron anchor]

was it 2 separate creatures made to be a troodon or 50% troodon and 50% mystery dino

because it’d either be 50% troodon 50% megalania or 50% velo 50% megalania

[fallow harbor]

75% velo 20% dilo and 5% herrar (cuz of its sitting animations)

[strange shell]

100% cop

[fallow harbor]

they said troodon and is made of 2 differant dinosaurs

[strange shell]

Wait wrong movie