#isle-lore-theories
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Me (A Tribal) about to sacrifice a small human thing (John Cake) to The Replicator
(I'm the goat on the left)
Me doing the same thing a different way
^
But! but!!
I want the isle to be built in a way so you can play either as blackhawk down or monty python and the holy grail with your friends as humans
Gen 1 is the cannibals, gen 2 is the normal looking humans
But Is gen 1 direct mutated monster Cannibals or primitive Humans (Cannibals)
These
Damn
badass
i hope they have creepy ass broadcasts
but if those are gen 1, are gen 2 just normal humans?
yea
I can't read, yea gen 2 are the normal guys
playing a mercenary and coming across one of those will be the greatest pant shitter moment of all time
gen 2 are "normal"
they're made to be biologically perfect in every way, so there's that
is there a definition to perfect?
oh yea, heads up, they aren't mercs
what are they
at least, not officially referred to as such
humans, as far as we know
they aren't there as hired guns
their goals, from what we're aware, is keeping the island upkept
ah
nah, normal human height
they're not explicitly unusual, besides being in peak physical shape and health
they possess no traits that would make them immediately recognisable as "wrong"
so perfect is just superior strength compared to average humans?
i mean, yea, like how someone who works out a lot has superior strength to an average human
better strength and stamina? do we know if they can go like 100 days without food or water
nah, they starve and dehydrate like everyone else
oh they’re just basically athletic humans? nothing special?
nothing really, no
ah ok
their outstanding features are basically all achievable through lots of hard work from a non-gen 2
only difference between us and a gen 2 is that we're not born perfect, and we're actually born and not made
they just stay in perfect shape no matter what they do?
anyway, the reason the merc title was dropped was likely due to a change in story, and also a possible worry that mercenaries would be too harmful for the game. Armed gunmen with the goal of killing/capturing dinos likely would not fly well with the people who don't want to be obliterated and lose 5 hours to a high-power sniper
unsure, we just know they're made like that
Ironically enough, when devs pull up the menu to change dinos the humans are still listed as mercs
probably just means they’re not working on it yet
Pretty sure they're John Cake now
Also probably due to the fact they've been referred to as "mercs" for the entirety of legacy
So it's probably hard to drop that habit
are strains and cannibals and gen1-2 going to remain just lore to explain what happened, or will we actually see the stuff in game
like dinosaur strains, and the matriarch, the gen1-2 strains?
i mean the isle is going to remain a survival game right?
what?
albeit, limited, and they crash the entire game when they die
Lol
^
but they're there
for players or just devs?
likely won't see many servers running it because of the whole crashy thing
crashes clients game or the server?
clients
ok
but everyone near the dead human crashes
Lol
Where are the other maps?
Point and laugh!
wdym?
@modern rover sorry to ping but i want to know if i understood this correctly
Generation One are the failed attempts and Generation Two are the actual "super soldiers"?
Region 1 and 2, Mesa, Misty, Spero, V3,V4 and Thenyaw
As far as we know, yeah
Well not true "super soldiers"
But akin to such, yes
They were playing as God gone right
That's why I wrote it in quotes
But ty
Thenyaw was Dinosauriacs map and was going to be redone for Evrima but when he left Dondi didn't want it
And the rest? Not good enough likely
I think they asked about the maps lore
Both
Guys, so is the Unknown/Faceless a strain for the Gen 1 ?
The only map lore that currently matters is going to be gateway since spiro is getting scrapped and legacy stuff it legacy stuff
Eyeless
But V3 is one of the bests maps
And no
We don't know
Just that they're akin to Gen 1.5
It's something that happens to them, probably something relating to the replicator
Yeeted enough bodies down the altar
Well
On the altar
What are you talking about
Sacrificing things to the Replicator
Sacraficing things to the replicator
She will reward you (as a tribal)
What is replicator?
Ai that makes the things on the island
An AI
Known in legacy as a creator of things
Made dinosaurs and worshiped by tribals, wartches therough cameras
What tipe of things
It was the thing, in legacy lore, that technically let you "become a dinosaur again" if you died
Dinosaurs
Oof
This being when EIPs were a thing
Avaceratops, taco, oro...?
All
All dinos? Not only AIs?
So you had The Replicator keeping you alive as a dinosaur, while you still had the brain of a human, in which you had to serve death 1000 times
So, is it a powerful live being or just a machine and the tribals are dumb?
All on the Isle
Just an AI entity
We don't know if it has a body or not
It's smart
Im going to search info, i dont want i annoy
What would you like to know
Ill annoy them for u then, mate
If you check the pinned comments, it's pretty much all we've got
Relatively
XD
No
Or what is that
AE is the company
Apollo Engineering
Where is that AI in the game
IS the reason of the glitches when you go on a human structure?
We do not know, my theory is that it's connected to tartarus
But is this or not
Where did you find that info?
How do you know that the replicator is in the game?
Devs said it, it was just something to get peopl;e away from staying there constantly
We ask questions to Dondi and sometimes he answers back
Where is "there"?
Anywhere the visual glitches were
Human structures
Known from Don talking about it
Won't occur within Evrima
Ages ago
Then
... the he replicator is something like Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous dinosaurs have
This was around 2019
Give or take
?
Never watched it, but replicator is seperate and creates everything
Well we had a thing called EIPs
Which were human brains/ minds inside dinosaur heads in legacy
We don't know if it can control the things it creates, but we know it needs things and it uses Gen 1 to get it, and yes, spawn is lore
Then...
But at least it can get Tribals to do what it wants, give or take
If you spawn, the replicator creates you
The structures of Región 2
Unless you are nested in, and we don't know about strains or either of the humanoids
In legacy, practically yes
And the titán skeleton
That's the islandwalker
Remember that evrima is in development
Yep
I know
But it's note worthy to what you have mostly asked is more so related to legacy
What is that then, a stray? A kaiju? A Prehitoric creature that can give the dna to the humans to create the strays?
Giant creature
Bones are in Titan Lake v3
We know it exists. 
I know, i went there with quetz
They say that It didnt die by hungry, isnt that right?
Yes
Then... its a Prehitoric creature
No, nothing in the isle is an actual dinosaur, just a recreation, also nothing that big ever existed
Probably a sea creature, something like a SpinoZilla
We know next to nothing
But we can theorize, isnt that right?
Yes
Have you heard of our queen and savior the matriarch?
Im ready boy
Evolves as it grows to become the most deadly organism around, starts about the size of a compy, ends up huge, my estimates put it at 140+ feet, we don't know what it would look like and probably never will because it changes as it grows, but we have unofficial art from Tapwing
Progression mode be like
3
What did the developers say about this?
The person who made it is now a developer, but it's not official
The thing itself is canon, just not the art
Ah ok
It's confirmed and we know some things about it, it's related to type-t
Another stray?
The Isle Theory Document Created by: The Isaac? and Rumplestiltskin Maintained by: Rumplestiltskin You can comment on anything that needs to be added, changed, or removed. Apollo Engineering: A subsidiary of the larger Apollo corporation. Other known subsidiaries are Apollo Engineering (AE), A...
Wth
There are three documents that explain stuff pretty well
I dont want to read... its 11:40 pm...
I made it at 3 am
And you're reading right now
But I'm at a highschool
Then sleep
Yeh
Evrima or legacy
Evrima
And type-m is now type-o
H, N, and T
What happen with O, M and others...
Including that no face human?
Eyeless are still here
The document explains these things
Magnas were linked to primal carnage and henceforth deemed not worthy
Ok then
Aye
The hyper doors from legacy are no longer canon, but bunkers are probably still a thing on gateway
Hyper Doors?
Not canon, doesn't matter
But what is it
Linked to primal carnage
Ah...
Not important
I dont have more questions
It you have more, check out the doc, goodnight sweet dreams
Theres something in the old maps like region 1 and mesa that is important?
Like Gateway
Yes
And the giant structure
Ye
Did you tested Gateway?
No, I'm not a stress testor yet
Gateway better got some damm good lore stuff to find and document. Been dying for some lore stuff
Spiro is getting scrapped, and there's not a ton of lore
Like gen 1 and gen 2
I've got a group going to scour the place for lore
Those aren't fully implemented yet, so we don't know much
I just think that human lived there just to investigate
Hell yeah, I'll be on it for days looking for anything and everything. Game has so much potential for really good lore stuff, which I'm always a nerd for
Gen 1 was good work, but gen 2 made some sheet
All the structures are old and abandoned for several years
Gen 1 is people who investigates the Isle, then everything went BAD and the gen 2 needed to survive on the isle
The islands were abandoned from 1999 to whenever the isle takes place
No
Gen 1 is the first attempt to recreate humans, gen 2 is the successful attempt
What
Both are created, not normal people
Which is why Gen 1's look so f'ed up and disfigured (if the pics I'm remembering are still canon)
The gen 1 is the eyeless then
Nope
Gen 1 and the eyeless are two different things, similar, but different, the eyeless are an altered form of gen 1
We have new concept art, let me find it
Gen1
Thank
I remember that one yeah
The one with eyes is Gen 1, the one without is the Eyeless, described as gen 1.5
As I understand the in universe distinction between gen1 and eyeless is blurred
But they will be distinct in gameplay

The gen 1 is confirmed then
Yes
The eyeless come from gen 1 after something happens, I assume with the replicator
Monkey man...
Or strays
Or Gen 0
Devs just rarely talk about them
Probably cuz most will lose their minds and blow a gasket over it
No, the eyeless are not a strain, we've seen humanoid strains already
True
But i dont like the idea about gen 1.5
I think is a forgoten Gen 0
Dondi said it's more or less gen 1.5
Its just a mistake then
Transitional experiments arent that out of the question
No, it's purposeful
What
Gen 1 turns into gen 1.5
Then is a stray
Nope, because it's exclusive to that species
I see more as a subspecies than a strain. Like an attempt at one more try before the genenome and process for gen 2 is realized
If Gen 1 becomes Gen 1.5, Giga becomes Hypo Giga
That's a good way of putting it
Yes, but it's not a strain
Those are different
A strain is a foreign body influencing the host animal
Eyeless , whatever they are exactly, are something else
Think of it like this, Allisaurus fragilus and Allisaurus jimmadai are different subspecies but are still allosaurus
Yah
They sacrifice things to replicator and replicator grants them things in return
Has unknown motivations
Its not a AI, its the Demon
Monster is a relative term, and I think hat the replicator has good intentions.
Clearly the betterment of normal humans and working with AE, isn't one of those motivation
But where the replicator comes from
AE made it
Again...
We don't know if they did
We assume they did
To make dinosaurs
all we know are vague tid bits from dondi and theoriee
So that they can test stuff
The replicator is not an AI them
Replicator easily could've predated the dinos
Maybe AE made it to mass produce plants, we don't know
AE does as AE does. Because they can
It's an AI that can also makes stuff using some sort of process
It might be an ai with no one central body
Might be a single Machine
We don't knoe
Hopefully we'll learn more with Gateways drop
But an AI cant create life in a random point because yes
It's connected to some sort of machine I guess, we don't know much about it
An advanced enough ai can operate machines and run simulations far more efficiently than any team of humans
We know it watches through cameras though
We do nbot know
We watch, we control, we create, we destroy
But we are dinosaurs
No
I still subscribe to the idea that replicator has sentience of sorts.
We control dinosaurs
I agree
We control humans
I can't think of the replicator destroying anything
Theres my theory
Takes but doesn't destroy, if we go off of how tribals treat it
We are the Replicator in the game
I mean, if someone offers a snickers and doesn't say how they got it, I would still take it
Or the admins are
Cool theory
Yeah betch
I disagree, but it cool theory
Idk, I think the replicator is gonna be a physical thing both in lore and game. It's set up to be bigger than just the players being the replicator
Xd
I agree
It watches through cameras (I think) so its something physical in world
It's not an alien, no alien stuff in the isle
Idk
That's right
We know it's made by AE
That thing has nothing and has everything
We know nothing and it's a centerpeice of the game lol
Isle lore theorists when replicator is mentioned but still gives little hints on what it is 
LORE!!
Oh yeah, anything about the replicator or the matriarch makes me just:
(we know next to nothing)
Where the hypos come from
Hypers are strains made by AE
Ok
Same with Neuros and tissos
Why not?
They were made for medicinal purposes, Hyper probably for muscle stuff, neuro for mental, and tisso for regeneration
If you're a scientist that not only brought dinosaurs back but can mess with DNA like it's a sandbox, why wouldn't you create stuff that could benefit both science, medical and neurological field
AE is a pharmacutical company
Wether the extreme changes in strains seem in game, are the final product or prototypes, is also worth discussing
That too
AE is a (altruistic?) bioengineering company, with roots in botany and agriculture
yes
Presumably they ARE improving things
We have zero idea of what's going on in the world outside the islands
I personally like my idea on devastating global ecological collapse
But AE didnt made the replicator
We don't know that, that's what I said
Pretty much what I'm subscribed to, or atleast things aren't going smoothly globally
If they can make that, they can make everything
We know replicator is an AI that is involved in making the dinos
And is worshipped by tribals
Everything else is theory
EVERYTHING else
My theory is replicator = developers
With the massive funding I'm sure AE needs to do what they do they're either backed by governments or its a corpo dominated world.
Or both
Good luck people
Eh , feels like a lazy attempt at being meta
AE is only 1 head of the greater hydra
Apollo, is the megacorporation that AE works under
Then the replicator has no sense
I can understand everything of the isle
Dondi is a big stinky Doo Doo head who doesn't give a lot of straight answers
If any
But no that
Replicator just being an AI has sense tho.
Replicator is the only thing that has no sense
Too many missing puzzle pieces
What is It then? The spawn menú?
Nothing "meta" like that, that's for sure
The spawn menú seems older than the human structures
Pharma company having an AI can easily be written to lining up. Give credence to the idea of AI helping technological feats and advancements. Which y'know, would be great for a company dealing with scientific fields
But humans cant create that AI
It is a spawn menu, it does not exist within the lore
And the old as crap style of technology in the isle is just part of the games aesthetic
An AI cant create a dino because yes
Theoretically we can. That's what's great about sci-fi which the Isle is.
It's like how fallout looks like the 1950's despite being alot more advanced than the modern day
Peace out
Replicator could easy be a story of an AI originally built to help advancements in the medicinal field (or even just medial tasks) that eventually got smarter, grew sentience etc etc. It's a little basic of a story of an AI but it has room for growth
Could be aliens, who tf knows 
The biggest thing that discredits the replicator being anything meta like "it's the player" is that tribals worship it. Would be weird to play as a tribal and essentially worship other players or admins
I also think that kind of meta stuff is lazy and uninteresting
"Please admin replicator i offer stick, gib me strain"
I agree, I want to have to dig to find stuff
So what are the gen 2
Are they just normal humans? I thought they were created by the replicator
Gen 2 are the perfected recreation of humans, and they haven't been introduced to the island until the time that the game takes place, so they were made apart from the island
They're more normal than gen1
But I assume were created via similar processes
Are they perfect recreations of an average human(or atleast of a soldier) or are they more genetically superior in ways like strength, intellect, reaction, etc
Cause I've heard people say either or
They are better
Gives a good lore reason for various possible human perks
Yep
Think Greek God-levels of physique and perfection
They're not designed, by just looking at them, to be super survival guys
Albeit, I would like "perks" for humans to be tied with lifestyle
Akin to Project Zomboid
If you're doing more medicinal things -> medicinal-based perks
Cosi cosi
So from my understanding gameplay wise humans will have to find things like weapons and armor right? What are the chances we see armor, vehicles or just something in general that hints at forces outside of AE? Mainly asking for lore reason cause I'd love to do a video with the theme of a small group of an outside force infiltrating the island. But most lore stuff about forces outside of AE are canned so its a bit of a twist on my end
From what we know
Vehicles
Clothing (emphasis on clothing, but still armour)
Will exist
The better the more rarer presumably, same with guns and ammo
You can still have ideas on rival corps, just that Phoenix doesn't exist
We know other companies exist within actual Evrima lore (non Apollo companies)
I mean
EIPs were cool for small indie team
Fitting the whole playerbase into lore
But, eh, it's a bit weird now
Nice, everything in the document mentioned is currently true, unless specifically atates
if there's like 20 accs on your doc rumple, ignore them, they're likely all mine cuz different browsers 🤪
what even is the matriarch
is it like a big lump of adaptive growing mass?
is it humanoid? is it a reptilian?
Mammal-like reptile 
It is an organism that adapts as it grows, which is all that we know, but I would hazard a guess and say it’s probably reptilian
was bored so I decided to scroll through the loading screen
nothing much honestly, I just thought that some of the prompts were quite interesting
AE watching yet another island get overrun and lost to dinosaurs knowing full well they're just gonna do it again. 
but do they, be it AE or maybe even the replicator (if sentience theory is true) let it happen on purpose is the question
aye, before it was known to be a proper map
indeed
there were other prompts in the loading screen
but those were the two that really caught my interest
quite so
(excluding old references to "gateway" in legacy)
I do like the loading screen text
interesting to know that Apollo Core isn't a "Library of Alexandria" for Apollo/AE
that being, "The Tomb"
Maybe it’s inside the tomb
Or it could be a central control rather than a storage facility.
I doubt such.
As cool as a 'library inside a library'
We've seen Apollo Core's presence more often than The Tomb
I presume more Apollo Core is just a general hub of information
rather than a proper grand library of knowledge/stuff
What if the tomb is the place and the core is the data center that it’s all stored on
Digital
It could be that Apollo Core is digitalised stuff
like video reports, etc
and The Tomb an actual "physical" place, likely inside CC or at Apollo HQ
depends, quite truly
The Tomb sounds more physical in being a "place"
I wonder if these areas will be accessible on the release of gateway, or if it will only become available when humans are impimented
@maiden sundial there isn't really a major "Tomb" in Hellenism/Greek Mythos, is there?
I can only think of the tomb of Tantalus
but it's not really that important
and I can't think of how Tantalus could truly relate to Isle
hmmm
yeah.
I do hope Gateway is, more or less, fully complete
albeit, likely not Tartarus
even them, the tomb of Tantalus isn't that big.
You could also say the Tomb of Achilles
nothing truly big that hits my head with a specific "Tomb"
besides Jesus' tomb
but that's Christianity
Tartarus was the burial place of Chronus
Jesus Christ that’s spook
lol
well, it was practically the jail for every Titan
Yes, but it’s the only major burial place in Greek mythos that immediately comes to mind
it wasn't really a burial place
just a pit to place to throw his body
Underground pit with body parts, burial place, potato tomato
I wonder if there are going to be any references to Delphi
possibly as a research vessel on the ocean?
we might have some sort of Delphi
but, it depends if they want to be more cultish towards Apollo
Wonder how they'll set that up. Like if each player will have to work their way to higher clearance levels or if it's through bypassing systems in various ways/finding things like keycards/passwords.
Def hoping they go for some world story telling throughout the map. Sorta how Fallout does, maybe not to that extant but still world telling
Watch me be a troodon with a top level security clearance stopping by the breakroom to grab snackies
I doubt we'll have "clearance levels" as it's a mostly abandonded island
True, I didn't know how to put it right
I need explanation on this
When the olympians overthrew the titans and killed their father, they chopped up their dad and tossed the nieces into Tartarus
so whats the lore about AE being a drug company?
gateway
It’s kind of like pharmaceutical testing which led to the neuros hypers and tissos
I trust that these big companies have my best interest in mind and are careful and ethical in what they do
Would tribals be able to tame dinosaurs and build saddles for them
Damn it would be cool to see that
It would be a bit weird considering people are playing as the dinosaurs.
True but even then that might be unique
I’m legacy there was a concept where where you beat the dinosaurs into submission, but that’s been scrapped
Damn cause I was thinking of a paraworlds saddle for the trike but a more tribal version of it
No tribals in the game
There will be tribals, under the name of generation 1
I know how they look like
Tell me
why are you guys ignoring my fantastic theory
Which one
I’m in class rn, I can help after
Ok
What's a hypo?
Lol
I’m going to draw a hypo just to show people whenever they use it, small chubby boi
Yes
hypo rex is real?
all things considered that’s like bigger than a human plushie
the bottom tusks we’re enough why it need so many
Yea and also why are three og ceratopsian hyper aggressive?
Because maximum chomp.
Tusks/fangs are cool.
Next question
Just noticed the fangs inside the mouth next to the tongue
Hell yea
Because being able to close your mouth is overrated
I mean it works out
Bottom jaw fangs slip past the jaw since they grow outward
Upper fangs in the mouth fit into slots in the lower jaw
And the fangs in the back of the mouth are "small" enough to not get in the way
That and it's a giant mutated monstrosity that clearly isn't meant to be a normal functional organism
Hypo Giga and Hypo Spino are like Shin Godzilla
Hypo carno is the only that is not like those monsters
What are these "hypos" you are talking about ?
Are they similar to that hypo rex ?
Hahaha.... ready?
These aren't hypos
Hypo, hyper, its the same bruh. Hyperendocrin
They are literally by definition the opposite
Bruh
Hypo and hyper are real words with real meanings, u can't just swap them around as u desire
But I'm talking about theisle
The Isle actually uses real words to name its creatures
And? That changes literally nothing
Hypo Spino, Hyper Spino, Hyperendocrin Spinosaurus
Words don't jus lose meaning when they're in the context of a game
Two are correct, one is wrong
but why did any article I found on the internet refer to hyperendocrins as hypos? my perception of this world got shattered
Yeah bruh
Some YouTuber or whatever called them hypos by mistake and it stuck
It's still incorrect and alot of people here are beyond sick of it
Ah...
Better lets name it Type-H
A mistake that just won't go away
ok, thx, I will now also try to clense the community from a failure like this
It's much appreciated
Then hyper, i Will better use Type-H
hman
what is the differance??????
Think hypothermia and hyperthermia
ah ok
Hypoendocrin means endocrine system is low producing im guessing. Hyperendocrin is the opposite.
Big vs smol
I have a question
Ok
Hypo is below and hyper is above. Simply put
It’s pinned comments
Gen 1
The tribals
The no longer cannon tribals
Why are they in replicator description if they are not cannon
Wdym no longer cannon? They are, just visual changes, if even
They are the same thing
Just the faces of old legacy tribals are different than the art we have now like my pfl
Unless ur confusing tribal/gen1 with the eyeless?
Then I am confused?
How where the legacy tribals
Legacy tribals were like native Americans and likely had different interactions with the replicator than they do in Evrima
The tribals coming to evrima are larger than the ones from way back in legacy
Depends on how old u mean by legacy?
Go back far enough they're just humans
But it wasnt too long in the games history that they become mutant thints
Huh...
Now im confused
If i search that in Google, theres a lot of tribals
Mutants, the new one, videos, the old one, a lot of conceparts
Then ur gonna have to be veryyy specific on what u mean
Cannibals and tribals were diffrent at one point, now it's eyeless and gen 1, but the concept is still vaguely similar
A bald monkey human very
I see 5 words and I do not understand what you mean
Well tribals weren't that different depending on when u mean. The terms just get really confusing
As gen1 is the only official name any of them have
And cannibal used to mean eyeless, but now it means tribal/gen1 and this and that
I think its a concept art that comes with eyeless animations
You're going to need to be more specific
This?
Or a fan art
The thing on the right?
No, thats a gen 1
No, its has deformed eyess
Its deformed human eyess
I might know what u mean now
Those are nostrils
Image pls
Yeah
This?
That betch
I was about to say, isn't that like the period they were moving from humanoid to gen 1 design
So is like a gen 1-tribal
It's putdated, but yeah
But just a concept
It outright is, just an old design
Everything we have on tribals right now is just a concept
It had a model too iirc but I can't find it
No
The lore guy
The man, the myth the legend
??
You heard the man
?
Yes
Now says yes
It's best to just soak in his wisdom as it comes
See
And I present to you, the difference between eyezac and Rumple's strategy to discovering the isle lore, thank you for coming to my TED talk
What would happen if Rex is added in official servers
Rex is getting added to official servers as an AI
But, it would most like be the most popular option, given it would be op when fully grown, and create a power imbalance similar to the apex system in legacy if it were introduced this early as a playable
But rex will be only ai for the reason stated above
Then it’s up to the owner of the server at that point
But I'm still thinking
All the servers of legacy have at least 50% of players playing Rex just because is rex
It would be the same in evrima
left one so much cooler and horror
That's why it isn't a playable
But It would be
one is a short stubby cannibal with normal skin, the other one is a slender elongated horror alien
Yeah, but not on officials, becuase the devs are in charge, people can do what they want on unofficials,
When spino is added, the Rex will be 50% of servers
I think it's a angle of perspective
wdym?
Subtle, but I think those are more skin folds than plates
The game will have +50 playables and the people dont knows dinosaurs, a person who dont knows about dinos will play a famous carni dino: Raptors, Rex, Spino, Giga
there’s no ears on the left, longer arms, more pale, less bony, jaw can extend further, it’s a lot sleeker and looks like it could be a genetically designed super predator from an ancient race of advanced aliens
the one on the right just looks like humans evolved kinda weirdly
You're assuming spino and rex will both be playable
I see, but I will nmaintain they are the same picture for the sake of my pride
When game is finished
All dinos are added
Fan made, doubt eyeless will look like the right one anyway
We don't know that apex will for sure be playable
Likely they all are
I'd want everything
Including pterodactylus and compy to be playable on community
which one is
I would too, but we don't know what's going to happen
We just need to wait
Indeed
The on the left is fanmade
One on the right is really old/official
Now I want to sleep, bye people
Peace out
Indeed
the cannibal drawing in your pfp
is that official
Oh my pfp
That's recent, and yes official
they post more pics of it somewhere else?
I have em, gimme a minute
We only have like 4 images, 1 of which are feet pics
looks like a hybrid between the fan pic and the old official pic
This is the most recent stuff we got, but yeah, that sums it up well
Which fan one
Well that's technically something else
The Eyeless
In which, yes, they're quite similar in design now
this is a dinosaur game that on the side is gonna be an amazing horror game when youre a human
Oh yeah
we've said GLaDOS for the Replicator right? what abt this thing ☠️
still think that's a terrible idea and they should just add rex if they want an AI, or keep rex playable in unofficials and not put it in officials at all
We don't know long term plans, just that rex is being introduced as an ai
We know apexes will be ai upon release, but we don't for sure know any long term plan
ah ok
acro will probably not be ai
yeah
maybe, not entirely sure
its pretty low tier apex
It toes the boundry between apex and mid tier
Depends on where the battle is fought
Troodon?
troodon doesnt exist, figment of your imagination
youve been hallucinating all this time
herrera could win, doesn't it have a bunch of bleed
turn the deino into a blood faucet
The only way a herrera would win in a fight against a deino
Is if the deino is up in the tree with the herrera
Lol
i saw a carno destroy an adult deino by staying on his back
deino couldnt do anything
herrera can stay on deino back even easier
isnt alt bite just a lunge
nO
no?
You able to play? I can show you alt bite
Alt bite is being able to turn wherever and bite instantly
That deino was just big dumb
i mean
what server, itll take like 10 days to find you
or actually i dont have time to hop on at all
and technically the right one is official
As it's made by Vega
and the other by George Bennett, which I believe is fan-art
i need isle friends tho so you should add me anyways
Ight, but know that currently, no carnivore in the game stands a chance in a 1v1 against deino, especuially if they are near water
deino right now feels the same way rex did in legacy
and they wanna make the other apex's ai
Because deino is stuck near rivers
And Gateway is going to have a lot more easilly accessible water, so camping will become more difficult
bridge!!
still its the deino center life
Not when center no longer exists. 
Still big scary boi
ai rex bad
unreal 5 will probably get a version with crazy ai
thats what gameengine theyre using right?
Unreal 5 has nothing to do with ai
lmao the engine doesn't matter at all with AI
It's a rendering engine, it only does graphics and worldloading/worldbuilding
unless they're buying AI scripts off the unreal asset store
i mean it comes with a preset ai to help you build worlds, and it ends up being the greatest ai of all time
preset AI would be garbage given the role its meant to fulful
Lol
most preset AI is for humanoids
Ight, but we've seen (I think it was Amar0k, maybe Filipe) wok on the ai, they're making it themselves
because that's easy
all AI comes down to is programmer competence
From what I've seen, it's going to be great, they can hear you if you make loud noise. (:
let's hope
besides sensing you, whats their pathfinding abilities like
idk, i just don't like AI dinosaurs at all
how will they know a big bush is a big bush and provides more cover
I'd rather a player be a rex than an AI every day of the week
^
i'll find a video for you, I need you to sub and follow because I use it for when I miss streams and Saphir Ceratosaurus does a good job covering them.
alright thanks
https://youtu.be/Qx3eig7ZlFI This is an ai stream
Finally something.
Sadly I missed dondi's stream so nothing from him.
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same, though its not important but I also dont like compies being ai but eh
right one looks a devolved evolved human, i'm glad the new art looks like they went in the left one's direction cause it looks so much badass
although the right one makes more sense if its somone just screwing around with genetics
ok
do keep in mind, they're differentthings
the "new art" and that art you sent
yeah but, i doubt putting in eyes would have such a drastic effect on the form of its body
compy AI is the only dino AI I like
well, they're different things in truth
eyes are pretty bad when it comes from hunting, from what i've seen. hunting with sound is superior
and if you've evolved to use hearing specifically, you're gonna be a crazy hunter
isn't it said to be a gen 1.5, the eyeless ones?
or was that someone else that said that
idk
compy ai is the only dino ai I can tollerate
yES, THE EYELESS ARE DESCRIBED AS GEN 1.5
Capslock
would that mean they're more human like as well?
Not true "Gen1.5"
but akin to such, yes
depresed if the eyeless isnt a scary spooky alien
I will also be severely dissapointed.
must look like xenomorph
Bad
we love xenomorphs
crazy how something so deadly to humans would get absolutely wrecked by dinosaurs
Eh, I say we keep them y'know, unique.
Funny dinosaur game, no aliens, all made by morally grey company
if i was designing a creature to be as good as possible at hunting, it'd probably look like the fanart above
Though taking xenomorphs stealthiness would be fun.
cannibals are probably gonna be great at stealth
I want the eyeless to make a soft clicking noise for echolocation, so you know it's nearby, but only when it's too late
thats a great idea
The original plan for nightvision would be cool, and you only see a fairly close area, or if something nearby makes a noise
Like a heartbeat.
you only see what you hear, and faintly
Yes, but big ear
i don't know if i'd wanna play as a human for the greatest horror experience of all time or if i wanna scare the hell out of humans as the eyeless
People would definently complain about it having the old night vision style vision, though I personally am all here for it.
the isle has such a good foundation for the scariest game of all time
at day everything is chill, night becomes hell
I imagine humans would be fun with an organized group, and I'm interested to know the social structure of Gen 1, the eyeless, and the echidna
i dont have any reason to think this, but for some reason i imagine the cannibals all hating each other
I wouldn't call the massive carnage that is center chill, but yeah, especially when dilo comes out and makes people trip bawls
Not cannibals
Gen 1
Yes and no
Same concept that chanbged over time
We know they'll be able to fish and build rudimentery structures, which makes me think that there is at least some small social structure, even if it's a small group hunting loners
spearfishing, the gen 2 get fishing rod
Tackle box next to it, fishing hat on as it serenely sits by the waters edge waiting for a bite on the line. It invites you to sit by it and fish, do you accept?
But they have at least some sort of culture around the replicator, so some sort of communication does happen
Lol
Absolutely, I want to know it's secrets
gen 1's have a religion around the replicator?
There is at very least, some communication between individuals to build a culture
They worship it and sacrifice things to it in exchange for gifts/boons
the original NV would be perfect for eyeless, just add audio-designed vision on top of that
dondi described it as "Spear Hyuk" So they launching that john into the water
what would that be like during the day
the same
ikr, it would be perfect
black screen, white outlines
yes
Imagine the eyeless just had a black screen and you had to rely purely on sound to get around. Like a hard mode.
But you know everything that happens near you
You have a weakness to lopud noise like a flashbang nearby
10x clarity on creature sounds, background noise is muffled so you know when you found something
And snipers, but I mean, come on, everybody has a weakness to snipers
So many cool things to be done and I want to watch as we learn every detail
amen
We also know they have some sort of temple
them having a culture kinda brings down the creepiness factor, but i guess its only gen 1? not the eyeless?
It may just be that my major is a subsection of sociology, but I n e e d to know the social structure of Gen 1 and their associated mutants
Lol
We don't know
Keep in mind, the culture is a death cult intent on feeding everything to a ravenous machine to create horrors beyond your imagination
I don't know about you, but I think I would rather have crucified dinosaurs and gen 2 and possibly other gen 1on the bloodstained steps of a temple that lead to an alter of the replicator than just something else that can hunt you, because if you just want to be hunted, there are a plethora of dinosaurs for that
i love horror beyond comprehension, but the isle is like perfectly designed to be a horror game where you’re hunted by a specially designed super hunter
There are several to choose from, but gen 1 is somethign else
and the eyeless, at least the fan art, falls perfectly into the role of a super hunter
the stealth of it
An eyeless doesnt stand a chance against a neuro spino, and personally I think it wouldn't match up well against anything heavier than a carno
the darkness of the isle maps, and amounts of hiding places
an eyeless can follow you for hours without you realizing it
Bro tisso is designed for stealth, it's skin color changes with the terrain around it (last I checked)
sound is a significantly better tool than vision when it comes to locating other organisms
The problem will be finding something from a distance without using sight
Close rang, absolutely, but you need to find things first
yeah but Lol in my defense anything resembling a dinosaur isn’t very scary
or i mean
that fan art, it gives dread
a dinosaur is just scary
in a sense of playing as eyeless, you’re handicapped because you can’t sense vibrations from a game
depends on how you do the gameplay
you can visualise that info
the one time a dinosaur gave me dread was the halloween short they gave us on their youtube channel
I would like to take this moment to point out that you are correct, there is a differance between terror and horror, the isle plans to use both
Exhibit A: Terror
the silhouette of an eyeless in the dark, visible from the reflection of moonlight in a river far back
i gotta go but nice talk
I think horror should belong to strains and gen 1 and the mutations and such, and terror should stay with the dinosaurs
Peace out
all in the point of view of humans
At least, that's how I think it's going to be, just a theor
Oh yeah, until they find a solid weapon and get set up, it'll be real, and even then, you need to be careful.
quite so
I mean, it's induced vulnerability
Do we know if nesting has any lore relevant importance other than the Dino’s not having trackers?
I’m also interested to see if inter-species interactions will always be negative in lore, or if Gen 1, Gen 2, and the Dino’s will ever coincidentally have the same goal.
Gen 1 and gen 2? Most likely they may have some common ground. But the dinosaurs are survival oriented and are likely not sapient.
I can see gen 1 and dinos working together to defend the replicator
Maybe the strains, like a neurotenic spino.
I’m thinking the replicator screams for help and it’s creations come to assist, but that’s just one of my theories
i mean do dinosaurs care about the replicator at all in lore
No idea, I like to think so because I think the replicator is the “good guy”
it’s like cloning a animal, it doesn’t have any reason to like you
cloning your pet*
I don’t know enough, I just like the idea of the replicator trying to protect itself and it’s creations
Ehhhh not really. They're synthesized human specimens, like gen 2.
The replicator is worshipped by gen 1 though.
True.