#isle-lore-theories

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acoustic osprey
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we know that it's actually an altar (rather than a pit)

lethal moat
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Give me like 2 minutes to make an extremely detailed image

acoustic osprey
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Me (A Tribal) about to sacrifice a small human thing (John Cake) to The Replicator

strange shell
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(I'm the goat on the left)

lethal moat
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Me doing the same thing a different way

acoustic osprey
acoustic osprey
lethal moat
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I want the isle to be built in a way so you can play either as blackhawk down or monty python and the holy grail with your friends as humans

iron anchor
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what is gen 1 and gen 2

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is it only for cannibals?

patent ginkgo
haughty tundra
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But Is gen 1 direct mutated monster Cannibals or primitive Humans (Cannibals)

unborn atlas
haughty tundra
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Damn

iron anchor
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badass

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i hope they have creepy ass broadcasts

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but if those are gen 1, are gen 2 just normal humans?

modern rover
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yea

sonic rampart
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I can't read, yea gen 2 are the normal guys

iron anchor
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playing a mercenary and coming across one of those will be the greatest pant shitter moment of all time

modern rover
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gen 2 are "normal"

they're made to be biologically perfect in every way, so there's that

iron anchor
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is there a definition to perfect?

modern rover
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oh yea, heads up, they aren't mercs

iron anchor
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what are they

modern rover
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at least, not officially referred to as such

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humans, as far as we know

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they aren't there as hired guns

iron anchor
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just normal superhumans chilling on the island?

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are they also 7-9 feet tall

modern rover
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their goals, from what we're aware, is keeping the island upkept

iron anchor
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ah

modern rover
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they're not explicitly unusual, besides being in peak physical shape and health

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they possess no traits that would make them immediately recognisable as "wrong"

iron anchor
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so perfect is just superior strength compared to average humans?

modern rover
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i mean, yea, like how someone who works out a lot has superior strength to an average human

iron anchor
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better strength and stamina? do we know if they can go like 100 days without food or water

modern rover
iron anchor
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oh they’re just basically athletic humans? nothing special?

modern rover
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nothing really, no

iron anchor
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ah ok

modern rover
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their outstanding features are basically all achievable through lots of hard work from a non-gen 2

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only difference between us and a gen 2 is that we're not born perfect, and we're actually born and not made

iron anchor
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they just stay in perfect shape no matter what they do?

modern rover
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anyway, the reason the merc title was dropped was likely due to a change in story, and also a possible worry that mercenaries would be too harmful for the game. Armed gunmen with the goal of killing/capturing dinos likely would not fly well with the people who don't want to be obliterated and lose 5 hours to a high-power sniper

modern rover
unborn atlas
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Ironically enough, when devs pull up the menu to change dinos the humans are still listed as mercs

iron anchor
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probably just means they’re not working on it yet

modern rover
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Pretty sure they're John Cake now

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Also probably due to the fact they've been referred to as "mercs" for the entirety of legacy

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So it's probably hard to drop that habit

iron anchor
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are strains and cannibals and gen1-2 going to remain just lore to explain what happened, or will we actually see the stuff in game

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like dinosaur strains, and the matriarch, the gen1-2 strains?

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i mean the isle is going to remain a survival game right?

modern rover
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no, they're coming in

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we literally have playable gen 2 available atm

iron anchor
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what?

modern rover
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albeit, limited, and they crash the entire game when they die

iron anchor
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Lol

unborn atlas
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^

modern rover
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but they're there

iron anchor
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for players or just devs?

modern rover
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for players

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it's an option in unofficial servers

iron anchor
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Lol what

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ok cool thanks for telling me

modern rover
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likely won't see many servers running it because of the whole crashy thing

iron anchor
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crashes clients game or the server?

modern rover
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clients

iron anchor
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ok

modern rover
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but everyone near the dead human crashes

iron anchor
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Lol

tepid lantern
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Where are the other maps?

raven anchor
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hi Wave
long time no see

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oh wait this aint isle discussion

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nevermind!

rose zinc
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Point and laugh!

tough gyro
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@modern rover sorry to ping but i want to know if i understood this correctly
Generation One are the failed attempts and Generation Two are the actual "super soldiers"?

tepid lantern
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Region 1 and 2, Mesa, Misty, Spero, V3,V4 and Thenyaw

tepid lantern
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What happen with them?

acoustic osprey
tough gyro
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But ty

acoustic osprey
tough gyro
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I think they asked about the maps lore

tepid lantern
tough gyro
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Guys, so is the Unknown/Faceless a strain for the Gen 1 ?

lethal moat
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The only map lore that currently matters is going to be gateway since spiro is getting scrapped and legacy stuff it legacy stuff

tepid lantern
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But V3 is one of the bests maps

acoustic osprey
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And no
We don't know
Just that they're akin to Gen 1.5

lethal moat
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Yeeted enough bodies down the altar

acoustic osprey
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Well
On the altar

tepid lantern
acoustic osprey
lethal moat
acoustic osprey
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She will reward you (as a tribal)

tepid lantern
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What is replicator?

lethal moat
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Ai that makes the things on the island

acoustic osprey
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An AI
Known in legacy as a creator of things

lethal moat
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Made dinosaurs and worshiped by tribals, wartches therough cameras

tepid lantern
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What tipe of things

acoustic osprey
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It was the thing, in legacy lore, that technically let you "become a dinosaur again" if you died

lethal moat
tough gyro
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Oof

acoustic osprey
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This being when EIPs were a thing

tepid lantern
lethal moat
tepid lantern
acoustic osprey
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So you had The Replicator keeping you alive as a dinosaur, while you still had the brain of a human, in which you had to serve death 1000 times

tough gyro
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So, is it a powerful live being or just a machine and the tribals are dumb?

acoustic osprey
acoustic osprey
tepid lantern
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Im going to search info, i dont want i annoy

acoustic osprey
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What would you like to know

tough gyro
lethal moat
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If you check the pinned comments, it's pretty much all we've got

acoustic osprey
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Relatively

tepid lantern
lethal moat
tepid lantern
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And...

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Replicator is AE?

acoustic osprey
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No

tepid lantern
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Or what is that

acoustic osprey
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AE is the company
Apollo Engineering

lethal moat
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Replicator is AI made by AE for some purpose

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Making dinosaurs for pharmacuticals

tepid lantern
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Where is that AI in the game

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IS the reason of the glitches when you go on a human structure?

acoustic osprey
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That's only a legacy thing

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To mostly get people away from sitting there

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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Where did you find that info?

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How do you know that the replicator is in the game?

lethal moat
lethal moat
lethal moat
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Anywhere the visual glitches were

tepid lantern
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Human structures

lethal moat
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Yeah

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But not all of them

acoustic osprey
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Ages ago

tepid lantern
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Then
... the he replicator is something like Jurassic World Camp Cretaceous dinosaurs have

acoustic osprey
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This was around 2019
Give or take

tepid lantern
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Something in theri heads

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Yo control them

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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Creates everything?

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IS the spawn in the lore?

acoustic osprey
lethal moat
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We don't know if it can control the things it creates, but we know it needs things and it uses Gen 1 to get it, and yes, spawn is lore

tepid lantern
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Then...

acoustic osprey
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But at least it can get Tribals to do what it wants, give or take

tepid lantern
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If you spawn, the replicator creates you

tepid lantern
lethal moat
acoustic osprey
lethal moat
tepid lantern
lethal moat
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Yep

acoustic osprey
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I know
But it's note worthy to what you have mostly asked is more so related to legacy

tepid lantern
acoustic osprey
lethal moat
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We know it exists. TI_DiloSip

tepid lantern
tepid lantern
lethal moat
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Yes

tepid lantern
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Then... its a Prehitoric creature

lethal moat
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No, nothing in the isle is an actual dinosaur, just a recreation, also nothing that big ever existed

tepid lantern
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Probably a sea creature, something like a SpinoZilla

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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But we can theorize, isnt that right?

lethal moat
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Yes

tepid lantern
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Developers just say he didnt starv

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And theres a lot of obvious things

lethal moat
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Have you heard of our queen and savior the matriarch?

tepid lantern
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...

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No

lethal moat
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Prepare to get learnt

tepid lantern
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Im ready boy

lethal moat
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Evolves as it grows to become the most deadly organism around, starts about the size of a compy, ends up huge, my estimates put it at 140+ feet, we don't know what it would look like and probably never will because it changes as it grows, but we have unofficial art from Tapwing

tepid lantern
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Progression mode be like

lethal moat
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Stage 1

tepid lantern
lethal moat
tepid lantern
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Send it again pls

lethal moat
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All of this is unofficial by the way, but it's the best we've got

tepid lantern
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What did the developers say about this?

lethal moat
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The person who made it is now a developer, but it's not official

tepid lantern
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Then... its not cannon

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Just a fanmade

lethal moat
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The thing itself is canon, just not the art

tepid lantern
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Ah ok

lethal moat
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It's confirmed and we know some things about it, it's related to type-t

tepid lantern
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Another stray?

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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Wth

lethal moat
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There are three documents that explain stuff pretty well

tepid lantern
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I dont want to read... its 11:40 pm...

lethal moat
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And you're reading right now

tepid lantern
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But I'm at a highschool

lethal moat
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Then sleep

tepid lantern
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Maybe tomorrow

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You play the Isle, is that obvious right?

lethal moat
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Yeh

tepid lantern
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Evrima or legacy

lethal moat
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Evrima

tepid lantern
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Ok

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Wait

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Type-T was tissoplastic...

lethal moat
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Yes

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is, not was but yeah

tepid lantern
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And type-m is now type-o

lethal moat
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Both are not canon noe

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No type m or o

tepid lantern
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What stray is canon now

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H and N?

lethal moat
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H, N, and T

acoustic osprey
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All the main three
Tisso
Neuro
Hyper

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Including their humanoid counterparts

tepid lantern
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What happen with O, M and others...

lethal moat
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Scrapped from lore

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Gone like it never existed

tepid lantern
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Including that no face human?

lethal moat
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Thats still good

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That's the eyeless

acoustic osprey
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Eyeless are still here

lethal moat
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The document explains these things

acoustic osprey
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Magnas were linked to primal carnage and henceforth deemed not worthy

tepid lantern
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Ok then

acoustic osprey
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Aye

tepid lantern
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Mmm... more questions...

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The bunker?

lethal moat
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The hyper doors from legacy are no longer canon, but bunkers are probably still a thing on gateway

lethal moat
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Not canon, doesn't matter

tepid lantern
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But what is it

lethal moat
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Linked to primal carnage

tepid lantern
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Ah...

lethal moat
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Not important

tepid lantern
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I dont have more questions

lethal moat
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It you have more, check out the doc, goodnight sweet dreams

tepid lantern
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Theres something in the old maps like region 1 and mesa that is important?

lethal moat
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Maybe, don't realy focus on legacy stuff much

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I mainly look at future stuff

tepid lantern
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Like Gateway

lethal moat
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Yes

tepid lantern
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And the giant structure

lethal moat
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Ye

tepid lantern
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Did you tested Gateway?

lethal moat
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No, I'm not a stress testor yet

icy onyx
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Gateway better got some damm good lore stuff to find and document. Been dying for some lore stuff

tepid lantern
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Something interesting in spiro?

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Or spero

lethal moat
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Spiro is getting scrapped, and there's not a ton of lore

tepid lantern
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Like gen 1 and gen 2

lethal moat
lethal moat
tepid lantern
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I just think that human lived there just to investigate

icy onyx
tepid lantern
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Gen 1 was good work, but gen 2 made some sheet

lethal moat
tepid lantern
lethal moat
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The islands were abandoned from 1999 to whenever the isle takes place

lethal moat
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Gen 1 is the first attempt to recreate humans, gen 2 is the successful attempt

tepid lantern
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What

lethal moat
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Both are created, not normal people

icy onyx
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Which is why Gen 1's look so f'ed up and disfigured (if the pics I'm remembering are still canon)

tepid lantern
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The gen 1 is the eyeless then

lethal moat
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Gen 1 and the eyeless are two different things, similar, but different, the eyeless are an altered form of gen 1

lethal moat
pale marsh
lethal moat
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Thank

tepid lantern
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I remember that one yeah

lethal moat
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The one with eyes is Gen 1, the one without is the Eyeless, described as gen 1.5

pale marsh
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As I understand the in universe distinction between gen1 and eyeless is blurred
But they will be distinct in gameplay

icy onyx
tepid lantern
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The gen 1 is confirmed then

pale marsh
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Yes

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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Monkey man...

pale marsh
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Devs just rarely talk about them
Probably cuz most will lose their minds and blow a gasket over it

lethal moat
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No, the eyeless are not a strain, we've seen humanoid strains already

tepid lantern
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But i dont like the idea about gen 1.5

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I think is a forgoten Gen 0

lethal moat
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Dondi said it's more or less gen 1.5

tepid lantern
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Its just a mistake then

icy onyx
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Transitional experiments arent that out of the question

lethal moat
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No, it's purposeful

tepid lantern
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What

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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Then is a stray

lethal moat
icy onyx
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I see more as a subspecies than a strain. Like an attempt at one more try before the genenome and process for gen 2 is realized

tepid lantern
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If Gen 1 becomes Gen 1.5, Giga becomes Hypo Giga

lethal moat
lethal moat
pale marsh
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Those are different

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A strain is a foreign body influencing the host animal

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Eyeless , whatever they are exactly, are something else

icy onyx
tepid lantern
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Hmmm...

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But the question is

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Why?

lethal moat
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They sacrifice things to replicator and replicator grants them things in return

tepid lantern
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The replicator is stupid or what

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He gives Monster danm psycho

pale marsh
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Has unknown motivations

tepid lantern
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Its not a AI, its the Demon

lethal moat
pale marsh
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Clearly the betterment of normal humans and working with AE, isn't one of those motivation

tepid lantern
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But where the replicator comes from

lethal moat
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AE made it

tepid lantern
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Again...

pale marsh
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We don't know if they did
We assume they did

tepid lantern
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The question is....

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Why?

lethal moat
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To make dinosaurs

pale marsh
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TI_HypsiShrug all we know are vague tid bits from dondi and theoriee

lethal moat
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So that they can test stuff

tepid lantern
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The replicator is not an AI them

pale marsh
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Replicator easily could've predated the dinos
Maybe AE made it to mass produce plants, we don't know

icy onyx
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AE does as AE does. Because they can

lethal moat
pale marsh
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It might be an ai with no one central body
Might be a single Machine
We don't knoe

icy onyx
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Hopefully we'll learn more with Gateways drop

tepid lantern
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But an AI cant create life in a random point because yes

lethal moat
pale marsh
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An advanced enough ai can operate machines and run simulations far more efficiently than any team of humans

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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The replicator is like...

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Us

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The players

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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We watch, we control, we create, we destroy

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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No

icy onyx
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I still subscribe to the idea that replicator has sentience of sorts.

tepid lantern
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We control dinosaurs

tepid lantern
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We control humans

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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Theres my theory

icy onyx
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Takes but doesn't destroy, if we go off of how tribals treat it

tepid lantern
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We are the Replicator in the game

lethal moat
tepid lantern
lethal moat
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Cool theory

tepid lantern
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Yeah betch

lethal moat
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I disagree, but it cool theory

icy onyx
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Idk, I think the replicator is gonna be a physical thing both in lore and game. It's set up to be bigger than just the players being the replicator

tepid lantern
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Xd

tepid lantern
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If not

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Its something of space or other universe

icy onyx
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It watches through cameras (I think) so its something physical in world

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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Idk

lethal moat
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We know it's made by AE

tepid lantern
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That thing has nothing and has everything

lethal moat
icy onyx
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Isle lore theorists when replicator is mentioned but still gives little hints on what it is TI_dryoAAA

pale marsh
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LORE!!

lethal moat
pale marsh
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(we know next to nothing)

tepid lantern
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Where the hypos come from

lethal moat
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Hypers are strains made by AE

tepid lantern
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Ok

lethal moat
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Same with Neuros and tissos

tepid lantern
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The same question

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Why?

icy onyx
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Why not?

lethal moat
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They were made for medicinal purposes, Hyper probably for muscle stuff, neuro for mental, and tisso for regeneration

icy onyx
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If you're a scientist that not only brought dinosaurs back but can mess with DNA like it's a sandbox, why wouldn't you create stuff that could benefit both science, medical and neurological field

lethal moat
pale marsh
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Wether the extreme changes in strains seem in game, are the final product or prototypes, is also worth discussing

icy onyx
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That too

tepid lantern
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I want to sleep

pale marsh
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AE is a (altruistic?) bioengineering company, with roots in botany and agriculture

tepid lantern
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A punch of sick people that is going to make chaos in the world

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AE

pale marsh
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Presumably they ARE improving things

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We have zero idea of what's going on in the world outside the islands

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I personally like my idea on devastating global ecological collapse

tepid lantern
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But AE didnt made the replicator

pale marsh
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We don't know that, that's what I said

icy onyx
tepid lantern
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If they can make that, they can make everything

pale marsh
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We know replicator is an AI that is involved in making the dinos
And is worshipped by tribals

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Everything else is theory
EVERYTHING else

tepid lantern
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Im going to sleep

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Bye

tepid lantern
icy onyx
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With the massive funding I'm sure AE needs to do what they do they're either backed by governments or its a corpo dominated world.

Or both

tepid lantern
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Good luck people

pale marsh
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Eh , feels like a lazy attempt at being meta

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AE is only 1 head of the greater hydra

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Apollo, is the megacorporation that AE works under

tepid lantern
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Then the replicator has no sense

pale marsh
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We know nothing about it of substance

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As is the case for most of the lore

tepid lantern
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I can understand everything of the isle

pale marsh
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Dondi is a big stinky Doo Doo head who doesn't give a lot of straight answers
If any

tepid lantern
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But no that

icy onyx
tepid lantern
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Replicator is the only thing that has no sense

pale marsh
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Too many missing puzzle pieces

tepid lantern
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What is It then? The spawn menú?

pale marsh
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Nothing "meta" like that, that's for sure

tepid lantern
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The spawn menú seems older than the human structures

icy onyx
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Pharma company having an AI can easily be written to lining up. Give credence to the idea of AI helping technological feats and advancements. Which y'know, would be great for a company dealing with scientific fields

tepid lantern
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But humans cant create that AI

pale marsh
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It is a spawn menu, it does not exist within the lore

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And the old as crap style of technology in the isle is just part of the games aesthetic

tepid lantern
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An AI cant create a dino because yes

icy onyx
tepid lantern
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It IS another thing

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I want to sleep

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Now bye

pale marsh
lethal moat
icy onyx
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Replicator could easy be a story of an AI originally built to help advancements in the medicinal field (or even just medial tasks) that eventually got smarter, grew sentience etc etc. It's a little basic of a story of an AI but it has room for growth

pale marsh
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Could be aliens, who tf knows TI_HypsiShrug

icy onyx
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The biggest thing that discredits the replicator being anything meta like "it's the player" is that tribals worship it. Would be weird to play as a tribal and essentially worship other players or admins

pale marsh
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I also think that kind of meta stuff is lazy and uninteresting

icy onyx
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"Please admin replicator i offer stick, gib me strain"

lethal moat
low scarab
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So what are the gen 2

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Are they just normal humans? I thought they were created by the replicator

lethal moat
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Gen 2 are the perfected recreation of humans, and they haven't been introduced to the island until the time that the game takes place, so they were made apart from the island

pale marsh
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They're more normal than gen1
But I assume were created via similar processes

icy onyx
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Are they perfect recreations of an average human(or atleast of a soldier) or are they more genetically superior in ways like strength, intellect, reaction, etc

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Cause I've heard people say either or

lethal moat
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They are better

icy onyx
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Gives a good lore reason for various possible human perks

lethal moat
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Yep

acoustic osprey
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They're not designed, by just looking at them, to be super survival guys

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Albeit, I would like "perks" for humans to be tied with lifestyle

Akin to Project Zomboid
If you're doing more medicinal things -> medicinal-based perks
Cosi cosi

icy onyx
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So from my understanding gameplay wise humans will have to find things like weapons and armor right? What are the chances we see armor, vehicles or just something in general that hints at forces outside of AE? Mainly asking for lore reason cause I'd love to do a video with the theme of a small group of an outside force infiltrating the island. But most lore stuff about forces outside of AE are canned so its a bit of a twist on my end

acoustic osprey
acoustic osprey
acoustic osprey
tepid lantern
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@lethal moat

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I read the theory

lethal moat
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Nice, everything in the document mentioned is currently true, unless specifically atates

swift echo
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if there's like 20 accs on your doc rumple, ignore them, they're likely all mine cuz different browsers 🤪

iron anchor
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what even is the matriarch

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is it like a big lump of adaptive growing mass?

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is it humanoid? is it a reptilian?

severe raft
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Mammal-like reptile TI_Troll

lethal moat
odd prairie
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was bored so I decided to scroll through the loading screen

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nothing much honestly, I just thought that some of the prompts were quite interesting

icy onyx
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AE watching yet another island get overrun and lost to dinosaurs knowing full well they're just gonna do it again. TI_GarboSquint

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but do they, be it AE or maybe even the replicator (if sentience theory is true) let it happen on purpose is the question

acoustic osprey
odd prairie
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indeed

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there were other prompts in the loading screen

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but those were the two that really caught my interest

acoustic osprey
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(excluding old references to "gateway" in legacy)
I do like the loading screen text

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interesting to know that Apollo Core isn't a "Library of Alexandria" for Apollo/AE

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that being, "The Tomb"

lethal moat
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Maybe it’s inside the tomb

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Or it could be a central control rather than a storage facility.

acoustic osprey
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I presume more Apollo Core is just a general hub of information

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rather than a proper grand library of knowledge/stuff

lethal moat
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What if the tomb is the place and the core is the data center that it’s all stored on

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Digital

acoustic osprey
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The Tomb sounds more physical in being a "place"

lethal moat
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I wonder if these areas will be accessible on the release of gateway, or if it will only become available when humans are impimented

acoustic osprey
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@maiden sundial there isn't really a major "Tomb" in Hellenism/Greek Mythos, is there?
I can only think of the tomb of Tantalus
but it's not really that important

and I can't think of how Tantalus could truly relate to Isle

acoustic osprey
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albeit, likely not Tartarus

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even them, the tomb of Tantalus isn't that big.
You could also say the Tomb of Achilles

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nothing truly big that hits my head with a specific "Tomb"

besides Jesus' tomb

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but that's Christianity

lethal moat
acoustic osprey
acoustic osprey
lethal moat
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Yes, but it’s the only major burial place in Greek mythos that immediately comes to mind

acoustic osprey
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it wasn't really a burial place
just a pit to place to throw his body

lethal moat
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Underground pit with body parts, burial place, potato tomato

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I wonder if there are going to be any references to Delphi

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possibly as a research vessel on the ocean?

acoustic osprey
icy onyx
lethal moat
acoustic osprey
icy onyx
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True, I didn't know how to put it right

acoustic osprey
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besides cement/metal walls

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(Tartarus and Olympus CC in the question)

low scarab
lethal moat
mint cradle
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so whats the lore about AE being a drug company?

haughty bough
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gateway

iron anchor
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so god of war is canon in the isle

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is the island walker chronus?

low scarab
lethal moat
dusky valley
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Would tribals be able to tame dinosaurs and build saddles for them

dusky valley
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Damn it would be cool to see that

maiden sundial
dusky valley
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True but even then that might be unique

lethal moat
dusky valley
strange shell
tepid lantern
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No

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Do you want to see the real gen 1?

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Let me find it

strange shell
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I know how they look like

tepid lantern
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Tell me

sonic rampart
tepid lantern
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@pale marsh

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There you are

iron anchor
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why are you guys ignoring my fantastic theory

tepid lantern
strange shell
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There you are

tepid lantern
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Yeah

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Kratos IS the Hypo Giga but modified dna

tepid lantern
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Xd

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Here comes the clever boy

lethal moat
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I’m in class rn, I can help after

tepid lantern
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Ok

ionic sable
iron anchor
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Lol

lethal moat
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I’m going to draw a hypo just to show people whenever they use it, small chubby boi

ionic sable
lethal moat
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Yes

iron anchor
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hypo rex is real?

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all things considered that’s like bigger than a human plushie

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the bottom tusks we’re enough why it need so many

dusky valley
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Yea and also why are three og ceratopsian hyper aggressive?

ionic sable
iron anchor
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the bleed on that

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one shot everything

pale marsh
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Tusks/fangs are cool.
Next question

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Just noticed the fangs inside the mouth next to the tongue

Hell yea

strange shell
pale marsh
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I mean it works out
Bottom jaw fangs slip past the jaw since they grow outward
Upper fangs in the mouth fit into slots in the lower jaw
And the fangs in the back of the mouth are "small" enough to not get in the way

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That and it's a giant mutated monstrosity that clearly isn't meant to be a normal functional organism

tepid lantern
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Hypo Giga and Hypo Spino are like Shin Godzilla

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Hypo carno is the only that is not like those monsters

strange shell
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What are these "hypos" you are talking about ?

strange shell
tepid lantern
strange shell
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These aren't hypos

maiden sundial
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Not hypos.

tepid lantern
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Hypo, hyper, its the same bruh. Hyperendocrin

strange shell
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Hyperendocrin is not the same as hypoendocrin

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They're actually the opposite

pale marsh
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They are literally by definition the opposite

tepid lantern
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Bruh

pale marsh
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Hypo and hyper are real words with real meanings, u can't just swap them around as u desire

tepid lantern
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But I'm talking about theisle

strange shell
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The Isle actually uses real words to name its creatures

pale marsh
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And? That changes literally nothing

tepid lantern
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Hypo Spino, Hyper Spino, Hyperendocrin Spinosaurus

pale marsh
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Words don't jus lose meaning when they're in the context of a game

strange shell
past bluff
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but why did any article I found on the internet refer to hyperendocrins as hypos? my perception of this world got shattered

tepid lantern
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Yeah bruh

pale marsh
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Some YouTuber or whatever called them hypos by mistake and it stuck

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It's still incorrect and alot of people here are beyond sick of it

tepid lantern
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Better lets name it Type-H

pale marsh
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A mistake that just won't go away

past bluff
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ok, thx, I will now also try to clense the community from a failure like this

pale marsh
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It's much appreciated

tepid lantern
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But

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What were we talking about

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Before the Type-H guys

iron anchor
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the point is he got his point across

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there no hypoendocrien anyways

tepid lantern
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Then hyper, i Will better use Type-H

iron anchor
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hman

fallow harbor
maiden sundial
fallow harbor
maiden sundial
# fallow harbor ah ok

Hypoendocrin means endocrine system is low producing im guessing. Hyperendocrin is the opposite.

lethal moat
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Big vs smol

tepid lantern
lethal moat
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Ok

tepid lantern
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Send me your Google docs theory

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Pls

pale marsh
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Hypo is below and hyper is above. Simply put

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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Ok

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About the tribals

lethal moat
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Gen 1

tepid lantern
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The tribals

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The no longer cannon tribals

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Why are they in replicator description if they are not cannon

pale marsh
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Wdym no longer cannon? They are, just visual changes, if even

tepid lantern
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Visual?

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In legacy tribals are like Gen 1

pale marsh
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They are the same thing

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Just the faces of old legacy tribals are different than the art we have now like my pfl

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Unless ur confusing tribal/gen1 with the eyeless?

tepid lantern
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No

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Im just learning about the lore

pale marsh
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Then I am confused?

tepid lantern
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How where the legacy tribals

lethal moat
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Legacy tribals were like native Americans and likely had different interactions with the replicator than they do in Evrima

unborn atlas
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The tribals coming to evrima are larger than the ones from way back in legacy

pale marsh
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Depends on how old u mean by legacy?

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Go back far enough they're just humans
But it wasnt too long in the games history that they become mutant thints

tepid lantern
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Huh...

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Now im confused

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If i search that in Google, theres a lot of tribals

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Mutants, the new one, videos, the old one, a lot of conceparts

pale marsh
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Then ur gonna have to be veryyy specific on what u mean

lethal moat
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Cannibals and tribals were diffrent at one point, now it's eyeless and gen 1, but the concept is still vaguely similar

tepid lantern
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A bald monkey human very

lethal moat
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I see 5 words and I do not understand what you mean

pale marsh
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Well tribals weren't that different depending on when u mean. The terms just get really confusing

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As gen1 is the only official name any of them have

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And cannibal used to mean eyeless, but now it means tribal/gen1 and this and that

tepid lantern
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I think its a concept art that comes with eyeless animations

lethal moat
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You're going to need to be more specific

tepid lantern
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The concept is like a deformed monkey bald human

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I dont know if its cannon

unborn atlas
tepid lantern
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Or a fan art

pale marsh
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The thing on the right?

tepid lantern
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No, thats a gen 1

tepid lantern
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Its deformed human eyess

pale marsh
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I might know what u mean now

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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Image pls

pale marsh
tepid lantern
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Yeah

pale marsh
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This?

tepid lantern
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That betch

pale marsh
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Old gen1

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Still a tribal but wether well have that face as a customization option idk

lethal moat
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I was about to say, isn't that like the period they were moving from humanoid to gen 1 design

tepid lantern
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So is like a gen 1-tribal

lethal moat
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It's putdated, but yeah

tepid lantern
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But just a concept

pale marsh
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It outright is, just an old design

lethal moat
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Everything we have on tribals right now is just a concept

pale marsh
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It had a model too iirc but I can't find it

acoustic osprey
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No

lethal moat
pale marsh
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The lore guy

lethal moat
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The man, the myth the legend

tepid lantern
lethal moat
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You heard the man

tepid lantern
#

?

acoustic osprey
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Yes

tepid lantern
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Now says yes

lethal moat
#

It's best to just soak in his wisdom as it comes

lethal moat
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See

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And I present to you, the difference between eyezac and Rumple's strategy to discovering the isle lore, thank you for coming to my TED talk

tepid lantern
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What would happen if Rex is added in official servers

lethal moat
tepid lantern
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Bruh

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Every Dino is getting added has an AI

lethal moat
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But, it would most like be the most popular option, given it would be op when fully grown, and create a power imbalance similar to the apex system in legacy if it were introduced this early as a playable

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But rex will be only ai for the reason stated above

tepid lantern
#

But

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Unofficial servers like Asura?

lethal moat
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Then it’s up to the owner of the server at that point

tepid lantern
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But I'm still thinking

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All the servers of legacy have at least 50% of players playing Rex just because is rex

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It would be the same in evrima

iron anchor
tepid lantern
#

But It would be

iron anchor
lethal moat
tepid lantern
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When spino is added, the Rex will be 50% of servers

lethal moat
iron anchor
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look closely

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there’s differences

lethal moat
#

Subtle, but I think those are more skin folds than plates

tepid lantern
# lethal moat wdym?

The game will have +50 playables and the people dont knows dinosaurs, a person who dont knows about dinos will play a famous carni dino: Raptors, Rex, Spino, Giga

iron anchor
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there’s no ears on the left, longer arms, more pale, less bony, jaw can extend further, it’s a lot sleeker and looks like it could be a genetically designed super predator from an ancient race of advanced aliens

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the one on the right just looks like humans evolved kinda weirdly

lethal moat
lethal moat
iron anchor
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Lol

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fair enough

tepid lantern
#

All dinos are added

pale marsh
lethal moat
pale marsh
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Likely they all are
I'd want everything
Including pterodactylus and compy to be playable on community

lethal moat
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I would too, but we don't know what's going to happen

tepid lantern
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We just need to wait

lethal moat
pale marsh
tepid lantern
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Now I want to sleep, bye people

lethal moat
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Peace out

iron anchor
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ag ok

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big loss for the aliens in the isle community

lethal moat
#

Indeed

iron anchor
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is that official

pale marsh
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Oh my pfp
That's recent, and yes official

iron anchor
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they post more pics of it somewhere else?

pale marsh
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I have em, gimme a minute

lethal moat
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We only have like 4 images, 1 of which are feet pics

pale marsh
iron anchor
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looks like a hybrid between the fan pic and the old official pic

lethal moat
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This is the most recent stuff we got, but yeah, that sums it up well

acoustic osprey
acoustic osprey
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In which, yes, they're quite similar in design now

iron anchor
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this is a dinosaur game that on the side is gonna be an amazing horror game when youre a human

lethal moat
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Oh yeah

swift echo
#

we've said GLaDOS for the Replicator right? what abt this thing ☠️

modern rover
lethal moat
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We don't know long term plans, just that rex is being introduced as an ai

iron anchor
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what about the other big carnis

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acro, spino, giga, etc?

lethal moat
#

We know apexes will be ai upon release, but we don't for sure know any long term plan

iron anchor
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ah ok

lethal moat
#

acro will probably not be ai

iron anchor
#

yeah

lethal moat
#

maybe, not entirely sure

iron anchor
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its pretty low tier apex

lethal moat
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It toes the boundry between apex and mid tier

iron anchor
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would be a good carni competitor for deino perhaps

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agile and big

lethal moat
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Depends on where the battle is fought

iron anchor
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i mean in that case, any carni can win

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against a deino

lethal moat
iron anchor
#

troodon doesnt exist, figment of your imagination

lethal moat
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but it's my main

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How about herrera

iron anchor
#

youve been hallucinating all this time

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herrera could win, doesn't it have a bunch of bleed

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turn the deino into a blood faucet

lethal moat
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The only way a herrera would win in a fight against a deino

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Is if the deino is up in the tree with the herrera

iron anchor
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Lol

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i saw a carno destroy an adult deino by staying on his back

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deino couldnt do anything

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herrera can stay on deino back even easier

lethal moat
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Then the deino didn't know how to alt bite

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Skill issue

iron anchor
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isnt alt bite just a lunge

lethal moat
#

nO

iron anchor
#

no?

lethal moat
#

You able to play? I can show you alt bite

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Alt bite is being able to turn wherever and bite instantly

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That deino was just big dumb

iron anchor
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i mean

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what server, itll take like 10 days to find you

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or actually i dont have time to hop on at all

acoustic osprey
iron anchor
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i need isle friends tho so you should add me anyways

lethal moat
#

Ight, but know that currently, no carnivore in the game stands a chance in a 1v1 against deino, especuially if they are near water

iron anchor
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deino right now feels the same way rex did in legacy

lethal moat
#

Because it's the only apex

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Carni

iron anchor
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and they wanna make the other apex's ai

lethal moat
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Because deino is stuck near rivers

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And Gateway is going to have a lot more easilly accessible water, so camping will become more difficult

acoustic osprey
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bridge!!

iron anchor
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still its the deino center life

lethal moat
iron anchor
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Lol

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i guess i forgot ai means the apexes are still in the game

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in ai we trust

lethal moat
#

Still big scary boi

modern rover
#

ai rex bad

iron anchor
#

unreal 5 will probably get a version with crazy ai

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thats what gameengine theyre using right?

lethal moat
#

Unreal 5 has nothing to do with ai

modern rover
#

lmao the engine doesn't matter at all with AI

lethal moat
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It's a rendering engine, it only does graphics and worldloading/worldbuilding

modern rover
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unless they're buying AI scripts off the unreal asset store

iron anchor
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i mean it comes with a preset ai to help you build worlds, and it ends up being the greatest ai of all time

modern rover
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preset AI would be garbage given the role its meant to fulful

iron anchor
#

Lol

modern rover
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most preset AI is for humanoids

lethal moat
#

Ight, but we've seen (I think it was Amar0k, maybe Filipe) wok on the ai, they're making it themselves

modern rover
#

because that's easy

acoustic osprey
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all AI comes down to is programmer competence

lethal moat
#

From what I've seen, it's going to be great, they can hear you if you make loud noise. (:

acoustic osprey
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let's hope

iron anchor
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besides sensing you, whats their pathfinding abilities like

modern rover
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idk, i just don't like AI dinosaurs at all

iron anchor
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how will they know a big bush is a big bush and provides more cover

modern rover
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I'd rather a player be a rex than an AI every day of the week

acoustic osprey
lethal moat
iron anchor
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alright thanks

lethal moat
#

https://youtu.be/Qx3eig7ZlFI This is an ai stream

Finally something.

Sadly I missed dondi's stream so nothing from him.

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fossil nebula
iron anchor
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although the right one makes more sense if its somone just screwing around with genetics

acoustic osprey
iron anchor
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yeah but, i doubt putting in eyes would have such a drastic effect on the form of its body

modern rover
acoustic osprey
iron anchor
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eyes are pretty bad when it comes from hunting, from what i've seen. hunting with sound is superior

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and if you've evolved to use hearing specifically, you're gonna be a crazy hunter

iron anchor
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or was that someone else that said that

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idk

fossil nebula
lethal moat
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Capslock

iron anchor
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would that mean they're more human like as well?

acoustic osprey
iron anchor
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depresed if the eyeless isnt a scary spooky alien

swift dagger
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I will also be severely dissapointed.

iron anchor
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must look like xenomorph

lethal moat
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Bad

iron anchor
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we love xenomorphs

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crazy how something so deadly to humans would get absolutely wrecked by dinosaurs

swift dagger
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Eh, I say we keep them y'know, unique.

lethal moat
#

Funny dinosaur game, no aliens, all made by morally grey company

iron anchor
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if i was designing a creature to be as good as possible at hunting, it'd probably look like the fanart above

swift dagger
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Though taking xenomorphs stealthiness would be fun.

iron anchor
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cannibals are probably gonna be great at stealth

lethal moat
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I want the eyeless to make a soft clicking noise for echolocation, so you know it's nearby, but only when it's too late

iron anchor
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thats a great idea

lethal moat
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The original plan for nightvision would be cool, and you only see a fairly close area, or if something nearby makes a noise

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Like a heartbeat.

acoustic osprey
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you only see what you hear, and faintly

lethal moat
iron anchor
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i don't know if i'd wanna play as a human for the greatest horror experience of all time or if i wanna scare the hell out of humans as the eyeless

swift dagger
iron anchor
#

the isle has such a good foundation for the scariest game of all time

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at day everything is chill, night becomes hell

lethal moat
iron anchor
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i dont have any reason to think this, but for some reason i imagine the cannibals all hating each other

lethal moat
iron anchor
#

Lol

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aren't they the same

lethal moat
#

Yes and no

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Same concept that chanbged over time

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We know they'll be able to fish and build rudimentery structures, which makes me think that there is at least some small social structure, even if it's a small group hunting loners

iron anchor
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so they dont eat each other anymore

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imagine seeing this thing with a fishing rod

lethal moat
iron anchor
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technically, opposable thumbs

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Lol

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his arm is the spear

swift dagger
lethal moat
lethal moat
iron anchor
#

gen 1's have a religion around the replicator?

lethal moat
#

There is at very least, some communication between individuals to build a culture

lethal moat
modern rover
lethal moat
iron anchor
modern rover
#

the same

modern rover
#

black screen, white outlines

swift dagger
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Imagine the eyeless just had a black screen and you had to rely purely on sound to get around. Like a hard mode.

lethal moat
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You have a weakness to lopud noise like a flashbang nearby

iron anchor
#

10x clarity on creature sounds, background noise is muffled so you know when you found something

lethal moat
#

And snipers, but I mean, come on, everybody has a weakness to snipers

lethal moat
iron anchor
#

amen

lethal moat
iron anchor
#

them having a culture kinda brings down the creepiness factor, but i guess its only gen 1? not the eyeless?

lethal moat
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It may just be that my major is a subsection of sociology, but I n e e d to know the social structure of Gen 1 and their associated mutants

iron anchor
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Lol

lethal moat
#

Keep in mind, the culture is a death cult intent on feeding everything to a ravenous machine to create horrors beyond your imagination

iron anchor
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but its like a different type of horror

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hold up brb

lethal moat
#

I don't know about you, but I think I would rather have crucified dinosaurs and gen 2 and possibly other gen 1on the bloodstained steps of a temple that lead to an alter of the replicator than just something else that can hunt you, because if you just want to be hunted, there are a plethora of dinosaurs for that

iron anchor
#

i love horror beyond comprehension, but the isle is like perfectly designed to be a horror game where you’re hunted by a specially designed super hunter

lethal moat
iron anchor
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and the eyeless, at least the fan art, falls perfectly into the role of a super hunter

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the stealth of it

lethal moat
iron anchor
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the darkness of the isle maps, and amounts of hiding places

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an eyeless can follow you for hours without you realizing it

lethal moat
iron anchor
#

sound is a significantly better tool than vision when it comes to locating other organisms

lethal moat
#

Close rang, absolutely, but you need to find things first

iron anchor
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yeah but Lol in my defense anything resembling a dinosaur isn’t very scary

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or i mean

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that fan art, it gives dread

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a dinosaur is just scary

lethal moat
#

Have you seen Tapwing's deviantart gallery?

iron anchor
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in a sense of playing as eyeless, you’re handicapped because you can’t sense vibrations from a game

modern rover
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you can visualise that info

iron anchor
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the one time a dinosaur gave me dread was the halloween short they gave us on their youtube channel

lethal moat
#

Exhibit A: Terror

iron anchor
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the silhouette of an eyeless in the dark, visible from the reflection of moonlight in a river far back

lethal moat
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Exhibit B: Horror

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Both can be used really well

iron anchor
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i gotta go but nice talk

lethal moat
#

I think horror should belong to strains and gen 1 and the mutations and such, and terror should stay with the dinosaurs

lethal moat
acoustic osprey
lethal moat
lethal moat
acoustic osprey
#

I mean, it's induced vulnerability

lethal moat
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Do we know if nesting has any lore relevant importance other than the Dino’s not having trackers?

lethal moat
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I’m also interested to see if inter-species interactions will always be negative in lore, or if Gen 1, Gen 2, and the Dino’s will ever coincidentally have the same goal.

maiden sundial
lethal moat
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I can see gen 1 and dinos working together to defend the replicator

maiden sundial
lethal moat
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I’m thinking the replicator screams for help and it’s creations come to assist, but that’s just one of my theories

iron anchor
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i mean do dinosaurs care about the replicator at all in lore

lethal moat
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No idea, I like to think so because I think the replicator is the “good guy”

iron anchor
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it’s like cloning a animal, it doesn’t have any reason to like you

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cloning your pet*

lethal moat
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I don’t know enough, I just like the idea of the replicator trying to protect itself and it’s creations

iron anchor
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i could understand the gen 1’s though

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they’re just modified humans

maiden sundial
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The replicator is worshipped by gen 1 though.

iron anchor
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yeah, but i mean they still have a human like brain

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humans like worshipping

maiden sundial