isle-lore-theories

[glossy quest]

Can you imagine the confusion for new players to the isle when they spawn in and get headshot. “I thought this game was about dinosaurs!”

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bonk-boink-scout-baseball-bat-gif-18381898

[acoustic osprey]

little did they know

[blazing fog]

hello

[shell echo]

Troodon snipers when?

[acoustic osprey]

I can imagine the fun and goof that would come from Gen2s being thrown back by a flying giant spear

If only servers could be up to bar with such thing

[acoustic osprey]

howdy

[strange shell]

let me dream

[acoustic osprey]

never!!

[glossy quest]

Lol, “nerf the sniper rifle, I was a sub Rex and he killed me while hiding in an electrified bunker” oh the complaints

[strange shell]

Not even
People would complain about dying to a shotgun hit at point-blank range as a juvie troodon

[glossy quest]

😂

[acoustic osprey]

https://imgur.com/a/NzGOL4t

[glossy quest]

“So unrealistic, humans would never survive”

Until they learn about who created the very Dino they playing

[shell echo]

Humans will be a threat during the day for sure, but at night, not so much.

And no, I don't think they should get night vision, the flashlight is perfect.

[acoustic osprey]

just stay in your buildings!!

[shell echo]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassicpark-jurassic-parc-jurassic-jurassic-park-movie-jurrassic-park-gif-24925923

[acoustic osprey]

I do hope things like GUTS allow for really good housing/equipment (and/or both) but with the risk of basically it being pretty open and easy for dinos to make their ways in. Especially Troodon and Omni

GUTS and the Hexadome

wide open housed spaces

[shell echo]

GUTS?

[acoustic osprey]

The "tunnel" system

[strange shell]

Generic
Underground
Transportation
System

[shell echo]

never heard of it

[acoustic osprey]

That being the nickname from Don

[acoustic osprey]

if you were active here everyday you'd know!!!

[shell echo]

But yeah, that sort of urban enviroment would be cool to hunt in for sure.

[shell echo]

Oi i just got here.

[acoustic osprey]

It's this thing referred in the 291 document and Network Graph

[acoustic osprey]

I know!!!!

[glossy quest]

There will be troodons in them tunnels!

[acoustic osprey]

urban housed especially. Areas that would be crawling with darkness as it's only powered through artifical light

That building being part of/connected to this:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1103137697645727866/IMG_6815.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1103137698316824686/IMG_6826.png

Which I believe is connected to or is linked with the Hexadome

which is likely also connected to GUTS, seeing as GUTS theoritically is connected to everything

[glossy quest]

That looks vehicle capable

[acoustic osprey]

or, dare I say, GUTS is just the generic term to anything that connects everything

[acoustic osprey]

there is one with a truck in it
Shows you better the size of it

[glossy quest]

Gatling gun mounted buggies confirmed

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1078217848922574858/Dome_Interior.png

[glossy quest]

Oh wow these interiors are huge

[acoustic osprey]

practically become any adventure game from the 2000s to 2010s

[acoustic osprey]

Massive, aye

[glossy quest]

No there HAS to be more to just running and gunning as human

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713759451836055653/993847937547382824/unknown.png

Potential size of the monorail tunnels too

[acoustic osprey]

100%

[glossy quest]

Yeah man I’m really of the opinion that humans need to research to unlock guns and stuff

[acoustic osprey]

I do hope they show us better the gameplay loop for Gen2s

I just WISH they spend a good 200 days actually reintroducing humans WITH a gameplay loop

rather than having update 8/9 being "Here is Humans again. We just gave them guns and a clothes + skin system"

[acoustic osprey]

Proper gameplay 🙏

not just TheHunter Primal gameplay

[glossy quest]

Man I’d love this, like an actual objective as humans

[shell echo]

I still think it will be a missed opportunity for humans to not have some form of symbiosis with dinos

[glossy quest]

If the old lore is in anyway relevant I could see it.

[acoustic osprey]

something to do
Because, honestly, people will be very sick with humans if they don't have anything to do

People with guns killing things

basically carno last update

[glossy quest]

Lol yes my idea exactly. There needs to be a point in choosing human

[shell echo]

Simply let me be a potion seller for the dinos.

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, why not? We still don't know yet.
We know that Gen2s are AE product. If the dinos are made by AE, why send your product to kill product? A bad investment and waste of money

[glossy quest]

Lol, medic!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/smile-grinning-listening-impressed-tell-me-more-gif-16076899

And even then
I love the idea of dynamic roles for humans

[glossy quest]

There is phoenix corp. And they may want their stuff back

[acoustic osprey]

not set roles you can pick from spawn
but dynamically you, the player, fluidly change your playstyle to whatever you want

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-ah-you-didnt-say-the-magic-word-say-please-gif-9628120

Phoenix Corp is gone

[shell echo]

Growth serum, medicine, repairing fractures, feeding them that doesnt involve dying to them, planting food for herbis.

[acoustic osprey]

I heavily advise, if you dare say want to, read my Google Doc.
Good insight to what it is lore now

sadly Phoenix Corp is one of those things Don does not want back

[glossy quest]

Oh is this your doc? Yeah I want to read it but wasn’t sure what’s the latest scoop

The dondi info drop in June seems to be the thing we need

[acoustic osprey]

Albeit, I would've LOVED a LTM where Gen2s could pick whether they wanted to side with Phoenix Corp or Apollo Engineering
and through that make it so the aftereffect would change the game's lore from there on

[glossy quest]

Could you imagine. Lol nobody playing dinos anymore and the game turns into a shooter

[acoustic osprey]

whatever the one I have pinned is my one.
Read it whole if you want to know everything that is truly "lore"

The one HellShade has pinned is an archive
everything old and new, canon and not. (Mostly not)

So it can be very confusing

[acoustic osprey]

Well, this would be for people who would be interested in the lore LTM

It would be a dream.
Something Sea of Thieves has done a few times as well

Changing the following future for the game's "story", seeing as the game's lore is supposed to be dynamic

[glossy quest]

Oh that’s interesting

[acoustic osprey]

Even simple things we've seen in dossiers
Just studying and watching herbis

[acoustic osprey]

It would be
Sadly Phoenix is gone. It's a missed future opportunity we could get back if Don still wants a "Opposing Faction" against AE plot/storyline/thing

[acoustic osprey]

the lore drop in June ||2022 || if only

Apparently Don was away the whole month last year, so he didn't do anything
I don't think he really remembered or cared

At least he dropped the Network graph later that year

[glossy quest]

Lol seems to be a bit of a slow grind for the game anyway. Guess lore will be left to the wayside

[acoustic osprey]

No, it's just too early yet to have anything really revolve around it
till now, that is

[glossy quest]

Ah ok

[acoustic osprey]

Gateway is the first proper map that we have lore, proper lore, connected to it

[strange shell]

people who wait for the next update
people who wait for the next lore drop

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ares-god-of-war-xwp-xena-warrior-princess-kevin-tod-smith-gif-17572538

[acoustic osprey]

[glossy quest]

Is gateway being implemented? To play in

[acoustic osprey]

(Tartarus)

Whether we be getting a glimpse of tartarus or not, who knows

[shell echo]

What about people who do both?

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, next update

[glossy quest]

Ooo

Better be getting Tartarus

I’m very keen to seeing wacky labs

[acoustic osprey]

That being said, I don't think we'll get Tartarus with Gateway when Gateway drops
But I do HOPE for something, a glimpse of it or even a tease within here/the map (like an artwork/paper) or something for it

[acoustic osprey]

I hope it's the most sterile, juxtaposing area of the whole game

[glossy quest]

I’d like to know if the titans are real

Or just escaped mistakes or something

[acoustic osprey]

I do hope they refer to Colossus, Echidna and Reaper as Titans

if they are the original strains/original human projects

[glossy quest]

I’m guessing so, following the whole Greek mythology that’s going

[strange shell]

They need to buy themselves a real life

[acoustic osprey]

Just depends if Don wants them to be referred to as Titans or not yet.
Or if they fit the same proper niche as the Titans, in relevance to isle's lore

like, we still need to know what Tartarus is for (with AE)

[glossy quest]

Well that old lore vid said these creatures are contained there

I’m guessing it’s an experimental lab zone

[acoustic osprey]

It could very much be

[glossy quest]

And Tartarus is where the titans were kept in mythology

[acoustic osprey]

Titans and other funny monsters

I am hoping it's not a prison, not a physical prison at least

but a facility (lab)

[glossy quest]

Oh man the comments in global chat if these are AI monsters that roam

[glossy quest]

Yes I’m thinking lab or island location

[acoustic osprey]

not physical prison?
but psychological prison for the Human Strains? VERY much so please

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, same thing.

[glossy quest]

Sure

[acoustic osprey]

Although I'm guessing Tartarus isn't a specific land location
but somewhere underneath

[glossy quest]

Yes I’d imagine so, you wouldn’t want top secret human experimental creatures above ground I’d imagine

Probably why GUTS exists

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png
the location, for me, comes down to this

I'll find my theory on it

I do say it's possible that the broken lines, adjacent to network theory, that it's indicating going down in elevation

the lines being GUTS routes/tunnels/ways down
It being a Network Graph (like the London Tube map or Sydney Train System map)

as typically broken lines either mean "X" is going down in elevation

To which makes sense

[glossy quest]

Interesting, who cant you speak to after sunset

What an odd timing...Why sunset and not sundown

So you can talk at night, but not in the day

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know where Tartarus is on land through being on the map on ST
Down in elevation would make sense

Especially since Tartarus is below earth

[shell echo]

I wonder what the the "If they speak to you, do not reply." is refering to here.

[glossy quest]

Yeah thats what im saying, and why only in the day and not at night

[acoustic osprey]

otherway round

[glossy quest]

Sunset is rise and sundown is night isnt?

[acoustic osprey]

unless you're referring to hem

[strange shell]

sunrise=morning
sunset=evening

[acoustic osprey]

Sunset is sundown

[glossy quest]

oh my bad.

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

[glossy quest]

Ok so cant talk at night

[acoustic osprey]

Likely Tribals
People have assumed Troodons, because mimicry

but mimicry may never come
and
It can mimic dinos. We don't know anything about humans (yet)

Until we see it's glance sheet, then we'll know

[glossy quest]

Also why would there be no echoes?

[acoustic osprey]

but it's much more likely Tribals could talk. Being, still, human

[acoustic osprey]

that whole section, all the dot points, are painful

[strange shell]

me want banana

[acoustic osprey]

as there is no answer.
Not in even old lore

we have no idea on what this is.
As we barely knew AE's operations

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/nedry-jp-jurassic-park-oopsie-afraid-gif-13618602

[glossy quest]

Unless the islands are actually not open islands, but contained buildings

[acoustic osprey]

@half dock are you able to pin things?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png

If so, can you pin this
and unpin this? #isle-lore-theories message

As this is the fixed version of the original

[acoustic osprey]

well, not truly open by nature
Have you seen videos of Gateway?

[glossy quest]

It would actually make more sense, in terms of phonics, if they can control what echoes and what doesnt, if every location is actually a controlled building

Because then tartarus MAY actually be the same. But underground. Like a playable map just underground

[acoustic osprey]

https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/e0c14e47e407c0950078984bf14a6825-jpg.jpg

[glossy quest]

No not yet

[acoustic osprey]

You should definitely.
We know, at least, that Gateway has enclosures of sorts

Although, it was very rough
With large fences stopping and starting with breakage

https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/c6ba9b5654a9b2b71d015919e3fbdf42-jpg.jpg
and a very perculiar hole

Which, is very... interesting?
What could make such a concentrated force of destruction, through that much concrete, and not destroy the whole standing fence

[glossy quest]

Titans perhaps

But thats a stretch

[acoustic osprey]

Even then, how?

[glossy quest]

On your map do we know what LLLRFL means?

[half dock]

I can but don't know if I'm allowed to I'll ask

[acoustic osprey]

nope
left left left right forward left? Maybe 🤷‍♂️

[acoustic osprey]

Sure thing, thanks Eye

[acoustic osprey]

but we know 291 did so
or at least someone did, before they gave it to him, but that's a stretch

It's much more likely 291 did so
as he was found with it

[naive crane]

[acoustic osprey]

thank you yellow Pixy

https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-spiderman1-misery-misery-misery-thats-what-youve-chosen-gif-24284926

[naive crane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/879278655686205480/tenor.gif

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[glossy quest]

VERY cool doc isaac

[acoustic osprey]

thank you

[glossy quest]

Man, now im curious about the mimicry matriarch and the echoes

[acoustic osprey]

Echidna, not matriach

[glossy quest]

Ya that sorry

We need more lore drops man

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[glossy quest]

Theres not really much to give us here

Like is AE still an active organisation?

[acoustic osprey]

From the sounds of it (Gen2s) yes

[glossy quest]

But it also looks as though there has been a breach, how are we getting access to all this classified information?

Like are we internal staff members with access to the camera footage etc? Im assuming so

Also hypo rexes and gigas, where are those, I have never seen them in a server, but I have seen them on youtube once upon a time. Where are they in the scheme of things?

[acoustic osprey]

They were once playable. Well only Hyper Rex
But when the Chinese servers happened

[glossy quest]

Spino and giga I have seen working

But ya maybe that was on chinese server(youtube)

[acoustic osprey]

likely yes

or a dev gave them access to it

[glossy quest]

So this is interestig, legacy map was Thenyaw?

[acoustic osprey]

one of them

Chinese Servers loved Thenyaw

[glossy quest]

So thenyaw contained the Hypos? Or V3?

[acoustic osprey]

Both, it was just the game
no lore implementations

[glossy quest]

Ok so not lore based locations

[acoustic osprey]

Legacy was up there yet to have proper lore defined in-game

Hypers and Strains weren't ready

which is why I don't really look at Legacy for lore answers

being non-canon
but also barely finished and defined

[shell echo]

So funny thought, in the Sucho's concept art, it shows it picking up water so it can give it to the baby suchos. Think only the smol suchos will be the only ones able to drink like this? It would be rather funny if not.

[glossy quest]

In the galli doc, it mentions "the feathered ones didnt do this", referring to their omnivorous nature. What feathered dino would that be?

Or are they talking about gallis that are feathered?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

feathered gallis

[glossy quest]

Beipi attacking stegos? Interesting lol

[dusky valley]

Chinese servers are always modded one way or another

[icy onyx]

Does anyone know if they'll ever add this prehistoric frog?

imagine an ability to get buried in mud at the edge of lakes and be the fastest swimmer in the game and be able to eat hitkill herbivores your size

and to eat the big animals you have to click on a key faster than the prey so it doesn't escape your mouth

[strange shell]

This sounds exactly like deino
But unable to do anything because beelzebufo was 3 kg

Also wrong channel

[swift echo]

it's like ARK, but... very different, as the dinosaurs are the dominant species.

[swift echo]

idk why I find this funny

[lethal moat]

Fun fact: Wearing a bright yellow safety helmet will protect you from the 6 ton reptile running right at you.

Anyway, does anybody know if GUTS is partially natural or entirely manmade?

[tender dock]

I mean its an underground transportation system so yeah a bit manmade but if your talking that some of the underground tunnels had already been there since before humans had built that would be a unknown

[sand seal]

Did you find out the Witness statement yet?

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1125283647000412253/DiloJumpscare.gif

[sand seal]

https://tenor.com/view/those-who-know-know-linus-tech-tips-linus-ltt-gif-25658978

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah well yeah well!

[tender dock]

its like building a puzzle with out the pieces.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/uboat-mechanic-simulator-uboat-uboat-mechanic-mechanic-simulator-gif-23203016

[dusky valley]

Imagine belzelubl was bigger than 3kg I don’t know if that would either be funny or terrifying

[strange shell]

that would be Ark

[dusky valley]

Yea but even bigger

[strange shell]

Then that's not a beelzebufo, that's a giant toad from Dungeons&Dragons

[dusky valley]

Yea true

What if the basilisk was real but not made from a snake egg raised by a rooster

[strange shell]

Talking about this ?

[icy onyx]

where did you find this picture of my sister

[lethal moat]

Would the lizard people from mockingjay part 2 be a good representation of how the eyeless are going to act?

[acoustic osprey]

how did they act

[lethal moat]

Swarming, fast attack, stayed underground, only died because of tunnel collapse/explosion. They don’t have eyes either so I assume echolocation, and the made semi-human sounds as they attacked.

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

[lethal moat]

They may be more like the quiet place monsters in hindsight, since cannibalism implies having two or more may be deadly for one or both, hunting alone waiting for loud noises to alert them of food

[acoustic osprey]

Well it depends

Who knows if Eyeless are still cannibals by nature, or if that's JUST Tribals

but seeming as Tribals and Eyeless seem to be either related or Eyeless are literally just Neuro-Tribals
They could very much be cannibals still

just depends.
Also depends if they're Neuro or not- does being a Neuro make "X Creature" more smarter? Could that infer that Eyeless are smarter, to understand that killing your own isn't that good on a remote island?

[hollow void]

wanna make a theory about why there are inescapable holes in the map ? so i can atleast feel less bad when i fall in to one 😄

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-spiderman1-misery-misery-misery-thats-what-youve-chosen-gif-24284926

[hollow void]

im going with the theory that some tribal with some screws loose in the head kept digging stuff and left the holes there for no reason whatsoever.... can some1 come up with something better ?

[glossy quest]

Bad traps to catch dinos

Or arguably...good traps, as you cant escape them

[acoustic osprey]

no traps

[glossy quest]

traps

[acoustic osprey]

no traps

[glossy quest]

😈

tribal traps

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/edna-no-capes-mode-incredibles-gif-8203362

[inland ridge]

munkey not smart enough to make traps

gen 2's on the other hand

log trap sending troodons out of the milky way

[modern rover]

Gen 1 seem like the trapper type, Gen 2 not so much

Not much point trapping dinosaurs if you don't get anything out of it

[inland ridge]

the pure trollery

[modern rover]

Pretty sure Gen 2 don't care about that lol

[inland ridge]

yeah i get that part i just find it funny to trap dinos for the fun of it

[waxen needle]

Is there any document or something with confirmed lore? I just started to get into The Isle and it’s absolutely fascinating to me.

[mint igloo]

there was a new lore compendium out there I think it's pinged somewhere

[scarlet verge]

Check the pins, specifically issaac's for current lore

[soft spade]

lets bury treasure on spiro island

🫢 thought this was discussion

[waxen needle]

Oki

[kindred bobcat]

There are several docs pinned here

[lethal moat]

So there is gen 1; semi-humans who get transformed into cannibals through (unknown) and gen 2; the modern humans working for the company to recapture abandoned human bases and capture and/or kill the prehistoric birds and reptiles? That’s the basis of what we know for sure so far? Without mentioning some messing around with the replicator thing we know very little about, strains, and Apollo Engineering’s goals?

[acoustic osprey]

there are two docs in the pinned messages
Mine one has all current active lore
and the other is an archive of old and new (keep in mind most of it is not canon)

[waxen needle]

Noted. Thank you!

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

is there any significance with the year 2172

is there a calender system currently in such year?

did something occur 2172 years ago from last year?

honestly, I've been thinking about it recently due to people on YouTube asking about timelines

Is there any true significance?

[modern rover]

I don’t think Gen 2 are as interested in killing the native wildlife as Gen 1 would be. The animals are still assets of Apollo, doubt Apollo would want them dead unless absolutely necessary.

[acoustic osprey]

Which is why I hope their naming of Humans are "Mercs" in the dev panel is just because it's habit to call them mercs

Back to the rifle, it's been designed to hold those attachments, and grant you a 8x scope that will help your “hunting.”

• last devblog

But this quote is also confusing

[modern rover]

I think that’s it because Dondi has literally gone on record saying they aren’t

[acoustic osprey]

I know, but

[modern rover]

Also, yea, not a fan of the implications of dino hunting being an encouraged activity but we’ll have to see

[acoustic osprey]

when devs go on to call them mercs, the reference of hunting, and the implementation of heavier and more powerful weaponry such as snipers
it's really hard for clarification

I do not want TheHunter Primal

but a lot of people coming into the game and finding Gen2s are going to go in and do such, and kill anything

it's just up to the devs to see if they can properly clarify that the one thing that people have been doing in game for years now in The Isle with Dinosaurs is not the way with Gen2s

[modern rover]

I mean, it also falls on the balancing act on making it that is often worth more to not fire your weapon than fire it

[acoustic osprey]

Then also mixpacking issues too

Not only do they have to make it so it's not worth casually "hunting"

but also not worth having a human with dinos

at least to a point that it's not going to be regular

and also, how much do they want humans to trust other humans?

Painful thoughts

[modern rover]

Yea

IDK man, Gen 2 being nothing more than “dino hunters” feels like it’s both less interesting gameplay and lore wise

[acoustic osprey]

For the player playing as a Gen 2, it sounds "fun"

Hunting and killing other players, that are playing as dinosaurs, is inherently fun.

fun for only so long

[modern rover]

I stand by the concept of people leaving the game if their hours of growth, perks and perhaps even rebirths are all gone from one dude with a sniper and nothing better to do

[acoustic osprey]

that's where it also goes to

it's fun for Gen2s
but when you, who isn't playing as a Human, dies constantly from such- it isn't fun

I just hope they don't do a staggered launch for Gen2s

it sounds and is, most likely, a pain to implement this aspect.
If Humans come Update 8/9, or whenever specific update, they need to launch Humans as a final/practically finished update

and not like Nesting or Diets.
Humans need to be finished. It's an important aspect that can very heavily affect the game, the community and it's longevity

if not, or if done poorly due to bad oversight. We'll either have people leaving at a pretty scary rate, or basically no servers with humans (akin to right now)

[modern rover]

I mean, Gateway will likely give us the actual map to support their existence, and yea, adding humans then throwing in a military grade sniper rifle in some later update down the line would be iffy at best

[acoustic osprey]

that's also the issue

Gateway.
Gateway, at least for me, should also be in the same bag as Humans

Gateway needs the time and effort. It needs to be actually finished

finished for humans
finished for dinosaurs

not just for one

[modern rover]

Humans are a bold new direction for the genre. They have to be done well or people will never engage with them, they’re mainly here for the dinosaur gameplay regardless

[acoustic osprey]

maybe that's because I've been waiting for such ever since Don hinted to Jace on a secret project

but Gateway is currently, and has been, the biggest thing since Recode news in March 2019

if u6.5 can almost get Evrima launch numbers

just imagine Gateway

[acoustic osprey]

Exactly.
Sure there will be a split side of people not caring and not even touching humans- even to the extent where they will ONLY play dino servers.

but humans still need to be done to such an extent that people, a good majority of the community, will play humans or dinos on the same server

It's easy for me to say on discord.

I care a lot about lore, even enough to say I love it a lot- as much as I hate it.
But sadly, lore ain't gonna do much in comparison to the proper implementation of a whole new proper faction

[modern rover]

Like, I’m super excited for humans, but if they end up as long-ranged dino obliterators who spend their time farming guns and ammo to kill more dinos, I won’t play with them enabled

[acoustic osprey]

a lot of hopium
very scared

nothing else to say.
I just do hope a dossier comes along and can try to explain/showcase the actual gameplay of Humans

hoping it's something good

[swift echo]

dino hunter deadly shores

[waxen ledge]

gallis are secretly the masterminds behind all that is evil on the island

[swift echo]

I believe it

[vocal cove]

Secretly?

[icy onyx]

gallis are pure evil

[dusky valley]

No the snake monster

[normal tide]

They'll need to make ammunition balanced enough to the point where humans need to hit their shots and get punished for missing. They could also make weaker more common ammunitions or maybe even guns that do less damage and are less reliable than rarer ones. If all types of ammunition are all so rare then nobody would want to play human.

[lethal moat]

How would humans clear out small burrows? (Please say grenade)

[calm axle]

gas

[boreal tide]

I am getting WW2 Flashbacks

[worldly frost]

im not a huge fan of the bringing guns into the dinos, like mixing with people being dinos and people hunting said dinos, it should be chosen seperately if that makes any sense, i think a lot of players won't be happy with the outcome, coming from someone who spent some good hours onthe game..just my opinon. i definitely love where the isle is today, and how far its come, i am so excited to see the other dinos and such but thats what i love the most. just animal survival, prehistoric animals at that.

[acoustic osprey]

No bomb

[swift dagger]

With all of this human and dino talk, I definently agree with the concerns, i myself am really shifty with the idea of humans being in TI. Especially with the idea that someone mentioned earlier, growing something for hours just to be obliterated from something far away that you couldn't see.

[pale marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/weird-sponge-bob-yes-gun-gif-14918367

[pseudo forge]

my mans a war vet

[shell echo]

If your creature can survive being bit at least one time by a deino, I don’t think you’ll have to worry about dying instantly to a gun.

Jesus all the typos, fixed tho

[acoustic osprey]

that's the issue

If the devs don't care

but never fear, Humans have been in the idea for years
Since 2014

so, they should, hopefully, have some idea

[swift echo]

By the way Lightclaw, has Don said anything recently abt Gateway? I haven't been reading into it lately

[acoustic osprey]

nothing

not like Don has said much recently excluding the open beta ST for 6.5

[swift echo]

yeah..

btw does anybody have the original image for this? (this is an\ ss from a video showing Olympus at the time the image was posted)

[acoustic osprey]

it was from the Olympus Transmitter twitter. Not sure if I saved it properly

[swift echo]

mhmm. the issue is... heh... Olympus is gone.

[acoustic osprey]

yes, quite so

although, it's a reference to PCE

I believe. Back when both games were much more linked

the primal carnage genesis door

[swift echo]

ohh really? dang I didnt know that ty

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[acoustic osprey]

I believe the Primal Carnage Genesis trailer showed the B-443 lab within

[swift echo]

imma watch the trailer rn

[acoustic osprey]

need the link?

[swift echo]

sure

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lf_Vrs9Dy0&

[swift echo]

ty!

[swift echo]

yeah it even says the name of it where the rex stepped

[lethal moat]

Anthomnia has a video where he played as humans with Dondi in legacy, and a giga seemed annoyed by two hits from a long range in that video, that’s all I have to go off of.

Also, the cannibal has striking resemblances to stories about the wendigo, a Native American cannibalistic monster.

[modern rover]

not much to go off considering its legacy lol

[lethal moat]

It was pretty fleshed out, could attach flashlight to your gun, had bullet drop, flashlight stayed on your gun if you stowed it.

[swift echo]

ye it does, though the cannibal does have some more Rake-like qualities

[lethal moat]

What’s Rake?

[swift echo]

tw jumpscare

[lethal moat]

Oh, it looks a bit like SCP-096, yeah, but from what I understand, tribals have to do something to become a cannibal, similar to how you have to do a few things to become a wendigo in Native American oral traditions

[swift echo]

yes i agree

[marble ridge]

bruh they not snakes, harry ptter ruined everything

[carmine stream]

Everyman Hybrid moment

[lethal moat]

Basilisk is a lizard dudes, it runs on the water

[pale marsh]

Real basilisk is a lizard
It's namesake is chicken snake thing that super venomous from European folklore

[icy onyx]

Will these three dinosaurs arrive before the end of the year?

[acoustic osprey]

Wrong channel
But likely no

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, it doesn't really matter to that extent.
Legacy Mercs were... yeah, interesting to say the least

[sour rivet]

Hi so I have a question regarding neuros what can they do and is there anything special regarding them (differentiating them from other strains) ?

[swift echo]

Neuros can affect the weather and technology (through EMPs), as well as your eyesight. They're way creepier, skinnier, and have softer skin + visible veins than other Strains.

[sour rivet]

dayum what kind of neuros exist ? and are they stronger than their RL counterparts ? (do they have some disadvanteges due to their powers)

[swift echo]

we have the model for the Neurotenic spinosaurus, and in the future we have the Neurotenic Mastermind/Mother of Cannibals/Echidna and a few more

[swift echo]

yes stronger, with a size upgrade but they are weaker in terms of durability

[sour rivet]

interesting... so a Neuro spino would maybe lose to a non strain Spino yes ?

[swift echo]

probably not, as the neuro is very scary and it can literally liquify your organs

[sour rivet]

WHAT

it can liquify organs wth

how

[swift echo]

as in (TW GORE) by Ms.CatbugPLZ

[sour rivet]

hah smoothie

[swift echo]

pretty much. but they ahve a barbed tongue that acts like a straw

[sour rivet]

ohhhh....

reminds me of xenomorphs

[swift echo]

kinda lol

[swift echo]

we also have these guys, but there's no true confirmation that they're really neuros.

[sour rivet]

faceless i would call them

[swift echo]

wow that's really close. they're called the Eyeless, but some ppl refer tothem as the Unknown/Cannibals

[sour rivet]

what can I say 😏

[steel summit]

guys i was wondering but do we have any kind of size estimate for the hyperendorcin collosus, or just the lift a pue over its shoulders thing?

[pale marsh]

Should note "eyeless" (iirc) is an unofficial name
They don't have an official name to out knowledge yet

[swift echo]

yeah unfortunately

[acoustic osprey]

They have an official name
Just not to the public

Calling them Eyeless is just in place to avoid confusion

[acoustic osprey]

Well no
That stuff, likely besides their size, is all old lore and not confirmed

The only thing we can say as a special ability is Echidna being a siren

That she can literally replicate the voices of humans she has heard, even dead, and she emits them as distress transmissions

[swift echo]

yeah I assumed as much abt her

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

Nothing really.
As that concept art of colossus was an unofficial artwork

no true size yet, to what we know

[lethal moat]

As far as I’m aware, strains aren’t even confirmed for Evrima yet right?

[acoustic osprey]

No

[lethal moat]

We just know at the end of elder lifestyle you choose between permanent perk or “something more”, interesting phrasing, but I do really wonder what it means

[acoustic osprey]

no

that was the very first description for Elders on the trello

Which, all we know now is that if you forfeit your life as you did the Elder properly- then you get the Elder Reward

[lethal moat]

Interesting and gosh darn

[acoustic osprey]

but if you don't "But dying in any other fashion..."

Which likely entails that you don't get anything if you die from something else while doing such

It would not make sense if "But dying in any other fashion..." would turn you into a strain- Especially becoming a strain for not being more aware, being unlucky with a fight or even just starving from hunger (whatever way you can die), it would just be a bit OP and not really great

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[brave sinew]

Bro, when i played the isle i only knew the skeleton on the titan lake and things like canibals, hipos and neuros, now there is islandwalkers wtf?

[acoustic osprey]

Islandwalkers is lore from 2018

[brave sinew]

I know its old (i was looking at the messages) but when i played the isle a bunch and wasn't on this discord NOBODY talked about this thing

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, because it was mentioned once

[brave sinew]

But right now i discovered there was things like monsters that could walk betwen islands.
Dinos that can change the weather.
Like, what?

i think i skipped a page

[acoustic osprey]

Neuros, Neuro Spino, could (in-lore) change the weather

not a confirmed feature for Evrima, not a fan of it anyways, but it may come back

but, this was old lore as well

[brave sinew]

i remember things like "Indominus comming to the isle?"

[acoustic osprey]

that was a mod

[brave sinew]

Yep

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[brave sinew]

So let me see if i can understand the things correctly
Islandwalkers: Creatures so big that can walk betwen island (bones at titan lake is probaly one)
Hipos: Modified versions of normal dinossaurs
Neuros: Dinossaurs that can change the clime and transform you in liquid
Also there is a gigant snake monster?

[acoustic osprey]

snake is Titanoboa, which is no longer coming

Hipos are Hypers
They're one of the three different "Strains" in The Isle

"Strains" are modified dinosaurs, made for (mostly) Medicinal Purposes

This is an example of a Hyper

A Hyperendocrin Carnotaurus

[modern rover]

i dont think titanoboa has been 100% deconfirmed, but it's very much a hard maybe leaning to no

[acoustic osprey]

more or less not coming

[brave sinew]

[acoustic osprey]

Neuros can't do such

Neuros are another "Strain" version you can get of a dinosaur

This is an example of a Neuro

A Neurotenic Spinosaurus

[brave sinew]

For me hypos and neuros were things like mutations

So they are created by the "thing" the comunity call "AE"

[acoustic osprey]

there are also Tissos

This is a Tissoplastic Spinosaurus
(not official artwork. But best I can give you)

[acoustic osprey]

They're a bio-engineering medicinal company, company body, called Apollo Engineering
Nicknamed "AE"

These dinosaurs, strains, and modified humans, are all PRESUMED created by an entity called "The Replicator"

The Replicator is an AI
Nothing much on her

Besides that the "Modified Humans" (called Generation One/Tribals) sacrifice things to The Replicator and believe she is some sort of God

These are The Tribals

[brave sinew]

Bro, for what i did know about the isle lore, this "new" things are maaking me go insane

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know what they'll look like when they come out
but this is the best artwork of how they're described

[acoustic osprey]

These things, are more or less, just old information from 2016-2018 that have been reconfirmed and touched upon

but they're definitely pretty crazy to think about

Shame we don't have a properly confined space of lore

[brave sinew]

things i did know was like, there are tribals like canibals (they look like Scp 096 and Rake) and mercenaries and some strange buildings

[acoustic osprey]

@brave sinew
You can also read this if you'd like

Here is pretty much the basics

AE (Apollo Engineering) is a bio-engineering company
AE made dinosaurs. AE also made mutated (strained) dinosaurs.
This took place all around the 90s (approximate)

AE also made mutated humans
- When? Who knows, but we can presume during AE's "Prime" in the 90s (?)
- These humans are known as "Tribals"/Cannibals/Generation One

Tribals slowly went crazy and mad per cycle

Sometime later, around current modern times, AE makes Generation Two
- Generation Two are also known as "Mercs" ||just to clarify, they aren't mercenaries any longer||/Humans
There is soo much more. But some of it is speculative canon and some of it is unconfirmed canon (lore from Legacy that we don't know will be in Evrima)

[pale marsh]

this in particulary go hard, really hope tribals maintain this energy on release

[acoustic osprey]

very

[brave sinew]

And ayo there is building at the titan lake close to the giant bones, maybe there was a tribe that adorated the giant thing?

[pale marsh]

still lowkey hoping we can make human[and dinosaur] effigys of our victims

[acoustic osprey]

So here is some clarification we got from Dondi a few years back about "Tribals" and "Cannibals"

So:

Tribals = Cannibals

However, the "Cannibals" we used to know
which are the eyeless creatures

have a completely new name but we don't know yet.
So they're, temporarily, called The Eyeless

https://survive-the-isle.fandom.com/wiki/The_Eyeless
This being the old "Cannibal"

[brave sinew]

What is "Echidna"

[acoustic osprey]

Which is now just called The Eyeless to avoid confusion with the actual cannibals (Tribals/Gen1s)

[brave sinew]

oK

[acoustic osprey]

Echidna is a strained humanoid
She is a neuro strain "Neurotenic"

She is also known as "The Mother of Cannibals/Tribals" and "Neurotenic Mastermind"

She looks like this

[acoustic osprey]

that would be very fun, and horriffic
to some extent

[pale marsh]

precisely

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/norman-osborn-gif-25225600

[pale marsh]

whats scarier than seeing a flayed omni raptor as a gen2

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[pale marsh]

like the predator movies where they leave the skinned corpses of "weak" prey hanging around to scare things

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-send-regards-the-lannisters-send-their-regards-gif-15206022

[brave sinew]

So there is the AE that makes mutated dinossaurs and humans because its a medic-biology company, that builded things at The isle map's, but there's also old giant things that could walk betwen islands called "Island walkers" and there is like a AI that is belived by the tribals that he is a "god" + The tribals (also called Gen1) are mutated humans created by AE that got crazy and mad per cycle and Gen 2 that are the "Mercs"
This is all i understood from the lore and other things, if there is any thing beside the things that were already said, i free to see.

[acoustic osprey]

Islandwalkers are no longer canon sadly.

As scary and wacky as they were

[brave sinew]

Aw

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, Gen2s are "Mercs"
Albeit, don't be fooled by the nickname of "Mercs"

Gen2s are less so mercs and more so just a continuation of AE's Gen 1s program
But, actually more "Human-like"

They likely, by design, will be less "Hunting"-based and more research and survive-like

But, yes, you've practically summed up the basics of what we know at the moment

[brave sinew]

is there any picture of the "Mercs"?

[acoustic osprey]

Sadly, you can't (not even myself) can really go further about it's lore

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, a good few. I'll find some

[brave sinew]

Oh ok, thanks

[acoustic osprey]

These are 2 basic ones

You can also find them in the dinosaur concept art
Which I'll grab in a second as well

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1066144984639742022/Avaceratops_Concept.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1050196383329681509/Rugops_Concept.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1027342632734687282/Megalania_Concept.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1019760191585136791/Pad_Concept.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1019752171463516190/Albertosaurus_Concept.jpg

[brave sinew]

Damn they are built bro

[acoustic osprey]

This is just a few, but a nice look at them

[acoustic osprey]

From what we have theorised, AE have a very "Godplex" mindset and love linking their stuff with Greek Mythos (Hellenism).
Gen2s are practically Greek Gods in physical design

[brave sinew]

And this one, this is the so called "Gateway" island?

[brave sinew]

Ah, normal "sigma" user lol

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, K15 helicopter pad

It's a painting over a screenshot
Which we've seen with a few other artworks

but that one really looks sick

[acoustic osprey]

🤣

[brave sinew]

I love how the comunity of this game just created lore from just a "yes" a dev said

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-folds-hmusicruof4-rockin-the-suburbs-male-middle-class-and-white-fuh-gif-12724213763414725599

we still have some papers!! We're not completely insane!!

[brave sinew]

I saw some papers like this, but i couldn't understand anything lol

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[brave sinew]

now i thinking, how the hypers survive? they are giant dinossaurs, how they dont just starve to death and man the time to grow too

[acoustic osprey]

They starve in a day or two, in lore

[brave sinew]

imagine be born and die in 2 days lol

[modern rover]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[acoustic osprey]

lol

#isle-lore-theories message

[modern rover]

hypers die VERY fast

although "days" is... weird

since most anything starves in days lol

[acoustic osprey]

that is likely a lore explanation

as a Galli isn't going to be alive for 15 actual years

with Elders, of course

[brave sinew]

But like, they dont even pass the baby fase and already die of cringe (also know starvation)

[modern rover]

idk if there's ever been cases of a birthed hyper

they often become hyper by some other source later in their life as far as I know

[brave sinew]

Oh, wow.

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows anyways

[modern rover]

I don't think we'll ever see a juvi hyper, although I may be wrong

[acoustic osprey]

most likely, yeah

[modern rover]

But from what I know, hypers aren't supposed to exist through growth, but rather exist, cause hell, and die

[acoustic osprey]

Either Hypers (Strains in-general) are just made from already living adult dinosaurs

or Strains are just grown in a vat till adult

[brave sinew]

But the hypers die of starvation? If they dont what kill them?

[modern rover]

Hypers are kind of designed with death in mind (from a gameplay aspect), as I believe all strains are

[modern rover]

Very little kills a hyper besides its own body

[acoustic osprey]

aye, you're not supposed to be surviving and living as a Strain

[modern rover]

Their massive size makes most food unsustainable, and their rapid hunger rate means even large meals don't last for long

[brave sinew]

The moment a rex becomes a hyper rex, it gets a DLC called "stage ***5 ***cancer"

[acoustic osprey]

and, hopefully, they become unsustainable with their hunger rate

[brave sinew]

Just feed a hyper with 5 brachi a day and gg ez

[pale marsh]

thats the point my sir,

[acoustic osprey]

User Inquiry: Tartarus
This distribution of this information will disrupt the natural development of the profiles during phase four.
They must learn of it of their own accord.
Within parameters designated by Apollo Engineering.
Error: Unknown Profile
Error: Unknown Profile
Error: Profile Redacted
We do not tolerate trespassers."
and also:
"Tartarus: NEIP Redistribution"

User Inquiry: The Matriarch
Coinciding with objective parameters to complete an EIP.
I have developed a completely adaptable organism within Tartarus.
Once another profile is complete, the Matriarch will redistribute within the observable areas of Tartarus for study.
|
It is not correct to call it a dinosaur, but I have not given it a name.

User Inquiry: Gateway
Facility holding that transports EIP to Tartarus.
Status: Locked Gateway Node Is Offline.
Physical Reboot Required.
User Inquiry: Gateway Location
Rear connection facility between designate I-2 and I-1.
Status: Locked

Saving this to lock it in my head.
It's old lore and nothing special, just incase I need to refer back to something

[brave sinew]

Ah yes other thing i will ask

What is Tartarus and Colossus

[acoustic osprey]

Colossus is a Hyperendocrin Human. Nothing much on that.
Looked like this

Tartarus?
Who knows.

It's likely a place.
We know Gateway is a gateway to Tartarus

In Greek Mythos, it's practically hell. Hell, especially containing the Titans and monsters

[brave sinew]

Yep, i was checking the messages that got "strains", then i found "colossus" and then i find "tartarus" and "reaper" (this is the way i find lore lol)

[acoustic osprey]

in Isle Lore?
It could be a facility. It could be a whole giant area underneath Gateway, or both.

[brave sinew]

I find things, but i dont find what they are

[acoustic osprey]

ah lol
Well, it's one of the three human strains

[acoustic osprey]

fair fair

[brave sinew]

"Reaper"

[acoustic osprey]

I can happily explain anything if you're curious

[brave sinew]

I literaly loving this because everything i know before this chat was just a 1cm of a 5km large iceberg

[acoustic osprey]

Reaper is a Tissoplastic human
Tissos are the strain we know the least about- but they're still coming to Evrima/at least it's lore

With some, likely, design changes

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/negan-negan-smith-negan-smith-the-walking-dead-negan-the-walking-dead-the-walking-dead-gif-26236954

[brave sinew]

Tissos: Stealth or venom (idk)
Hypers: Tank asf
Neuros: Rain go brrrrrrrrrrr

And if i correct there was thing like Magnas, right?

[acoustic osprey]

Magnas used to exist

[acoustic osprey]

More or less, yes.
Just Neuros and Tissos are just a big "hmm"

The Isle used to be connected with Primal Carnage lore
But Primal Carnage and The Isle are no longer linked

so if you see things such as Operation Phoenix, Magnas, B-443/442
They're no longer canon

[brave sinew]

Wait, they are made by the same guys????

[acoustic osprey]

but Magnas might have been replaced with a new version

Magnas weren't technically strains, but more so "Variants"

this new name might start with "O", as hinted with Dondi

[pseudo fable]

||Outdated.||

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/well-there-it-is-jurassic-park-ian-malcolm-gif-19711514

[acoustic osprey]

Not really. No.
Dondi was a dev in Primal Carnage.

Was connected with The Isle originally
Then we were told no longer tied within

[pale marsh]

this, this is how we piece the lore together

sometimes people say things, and sometimes dondi confirms or denys, amazing system

[brave sinew]

3?
Ecdina
Reaper
Colossus?

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[brave sinew]

I will find lore in old messages now, i will be back

[acoustic osprey]

Good luck

to be fair, if you look at the "The Isle Iceberg" photos
There are so many micro niche topics and words/phrases you can go into for Legacy's lore

[brave sinew]

Now about the maps, gateway is a gate to Tartarus, a place that in the greek mitology prisioned the titans, so it will probaly have things like hypos inside, but what about legacy maps and spyro?

[acoustic osprey]

I hate it. As it's all stuff either too old to see, due to transmissions and old Isle Discord, or never explained further to any extent

[pseudo fable]

There are iceberg photos? Link.

[acoustic osprey]

I think I've only seen two.
But honestly, this one is the one I've seen floating around here and there

It's quite small, and might be very outdated even for Legacy lore

[acoustic osprey]

Tartarus might be the birthplace of such > Hypers and other strains

The Matriarch, in old lore, was made in Tartarus
And a few others, iirc. Can't remember every old user inquiry

[brave sinew]

The isle lore is so big that even the devs are lost rn

[brave sinew]

Matriarch? What?

[pseudo fable]

More like I find it interesting the tangents people make up and go off on.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/chuck-mcgill-im-not-crazy-i-am-not-crazy-better-call-saul-bcs-gif-25855903

[pseudo fable]

You haven't made up many tangents.

[acoustic osprey]

phew

[pseudo fable]

I'm talking about really off the wall stuff.

[acoustic osprey]

ah

[pseudo fable]

There have been some incredibly accurate guesses I've seen.

[brave sinew]

Ah, its this

[pseudo fable]

It is not.

[brave sinew]

Oh ok

[acoustic osprey]

Another piece of old lore

[acoustic osprey]

these are unofficial by Tapwing, prior to her being a dev.
I believe

[pale marsh]

man i love all of tapwings old work, but that looks like itd crumble if i sneezed at it

[brave sinew]

At this moment, i dont even know what is old lore

Wait, matriarch is the AI?

[pale marsh]

no

[brave sinew]

Ok

[acoustic osprey]

I remember Daltonius' guess about strains.
If you have enough people making crazy, someone will have to guess something accurate/near accurate enough

What's the thing with the monkeys and Shakespeare?

[pseudo fable]

I do not personally recall Daltonius's guesses.

[acoustic osprey]

Replicator

[brave sinew]

So what is matriarch after all?

[acoustic osprey]

I believe the one about him theorising that Hypers, alongside Neuros and Tissos, were likely created to test out medicine

[acoustic osprey]

That's a good question

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/H0Rh.gif

Indirectly but still.

[brave sinew]

Bruh

[acoustic osprey]

A pretty good guess by Dalt, I'd say

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, tell me about it.
I was never active during 2018 with Isle's lore in this server and the old server

I believe if you want to get the best information about the Matriach
You can find MeatyLock's videos from Legacy time

if you haven't already

[pseudo fable]

A rapidly evolving creature that can intake biomass and reproduce certain physical properties.

[brave sinew]

i have the isle from the time Quetzal was playable

But only played on legacy and just joined discord a week ago

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/house-of-the-dragon-got-otto-hightower-clap-gif-26960243

[brave sinew]

Oh make sense

Well, Issaac now you have it

[acoustic osprey]

Quite fair.
Can definitely see from the large influx of lore being handed

[acoustic osprey]

Noted and saved. Just in case someone comes asking for a nice summary/definition of The Matriarch

[brave sinew]

Other peoples checking this chat seeing 100+ messages:

[acoustic osprey]

I believe most people mute it

[pale marsh]

they cant handle the awesomeness of lore

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, exactly

[brave sinew]

Yeah, but it still apperas things like "100 messages since (time)"

[ionic sable]

Literally me rn

Just caught up on the scroll.

[acoustic osprey]

if any mad man actually wants to view upon the lore

like Hacker

[ionic sable]

I might be one of the most insane one in here.

I've been following Isle lore for so many years, and stalked this channel for so long that I just went screw it and started writing my own lore and series.

With a little help from the funny Light man ofc.

[brave sinew]

i just surprised that Don (I supose is dondi) appeared out of no where and gived random lore about Matriarch

[pale marsh]

this is accurate, hacker is insane

[ionic sable]

Been saying it for years.

[acoustic osprey]

you are very insane

[pale marsh]

i like to think, im still mostly sane, ive only had 1 headcannon, theory whatever, and i dont like because the shear amount of leaps and stretching i need to do

[acoustic osprey]

as much as I've seen him here, I was quite surprised as well

[ionic sable]

Dondi mentioning GOLEM-Ceti trials is what officially pushed me over the edge.

[brave sinew]

i literaly driving a tank in a game and talking about lore of dinossaurs, what is my life

[ionic sable]

Although I really should talk in here more often...

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm, Deimos

[ionic sable]

[brave sinew]

Me seeing a random dude on Yt years ago play a dinossaur game
Present

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/R9DN.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/chavo-del8-adios-adios-amigos-chavo-good-bye-gif-17919618

[ionic sable]

Leaps and stretching is literally ALL I do.

[ionic sable]

We ain't even gonna talk about the several hours I spent debating whether GOLEM is even an acronym at all...

[pseudo fable]

It is not.

[acoustic osprey]

ha!!

[brave sinew]

See, this is how a man goes insane

[acoustic osprey]

I'm taking the jewish legend approach

[ionic sable]

You made it worse.

[pseudo fable]

GOLEM is just an identifier across the various international corps that all filter feed back to Apollo.

What is [insert horrible disfigured thing here]?

GOLEM derivative.

Ah.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, what is he doing!

[brave sinew]

Ok dondi remembered me about something, what is Apollo? It is other company like Biosyn and Masrani

[pale marsh]

i guess now i have to say it, the conclusion i had, was, that the source of the strains was created by the replicator (like, lesser weaker version, more stable and functional as an animal)[ cant think of a reason why], and then AE saw that it was manipulating the dinos and decided to copy i, and create the roided up unstable version we see in hyperendrocin, neurotenic and tissoplastic today, which would serve to explain how strains came about, and why [in universe] some dinos [like say, teno] look nothing like the real animal

[pseudo fable]

Fun headcanon. Not accurate.

[pale marsh]

how i started his line of thought? the giga and spino models looking like theyre hyper variants, , , eh, i figured

[brave sinew]

Ayo, this is nice, Strains begin created by Replicator and AE seeing it and wanting to copy is very nice, like Biosyn

[ionic sable]

(The first spoiler I dropped... And I dropped it so casually as well...)

(Oh well, cleanup time.)

[brave sinew]

AE created the Replicator, right?

[pale marsh]

dunno

[acoustic osprey]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/rabbids-come-look-come-see-rabbid-watch-this-gif-16609504

[pale marsh]

this, , , this goes hard

[acoustic osprey]

very beautiful creature

very

[pale marsh]

GOD that is good

[brave sinew]

Wait, what is this? Canibal?

[ionic sable]

Damn these fellas got eyes

[pseudo fable]

Customizable Gen 1's.

[acoustic osprey]

I surely want to sacrifice things as to The Replicator as them

[pale marsh]

i know their just supposed to be big fangs, but they look like the teeth of japanese oni

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bKT3q.gif

[acoustic osprey]

oh sick

[pale marsh]

, i noticed it on the hyper rex [the redesign??] first

[ionic sable]

I do wonder if sacrificing for Gen 1s is still planned, since that dates way back.

[acoustic osprey]

Well, Dash talked about it only a year ago, (with Don commenting on it)

[pale marsh]

this

[brave sinew]

After hackers showed up, i dont even know what is happening at the chat anymore, i just following the waves

[pseudo fable]

||They still live at Abduction Junction.||

[ionic sable]

I broke chat again

[pale marsh]

thats a bad image, lemme get a better one

[brave sinew]

Give me a break lets talk about simple things

[pale marsh]

oni looking teeth on anything are so cool

[acoustic osprey]

nuh uh!

[brave sinew]

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, definitely more obvious with Tribals
(being humanoid, of course)

[pale marsh]

ye ye

[brave sinew]

Apolo i a company like AE

[acoustic osprey]

Apollo is AE

[ionic sable]

Oh, I got a simple thing!

Is Apollo only Engineering? Or is it something of a conglomerate, for instance, is there an Apollo Computing? Apollo Pharmaceuticals? Apollo has tons of massive projects, and it made me think, is the bio engineering the only focus/source of revenue of the company?

Let's discuss

[acoustic osprey]

Apollo parent company

[brave sinew]

The moment i read the first line, i understood the weakness of my brain at this moment, it digust me

[ionic sable]

Something like Apollo International being parent, and Apollo Engineering is the wing that covers the islands?

(And bio-engineering, obviously)

[acoustic osprey]

if AE is international, why not

[ionic sable]

Truly, why not?

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, why not!

[pale marsh]

we reallly know nothing about the wider world of the isle

[acoustic osprey]

worldbuilding of the isle (Earth (?) )

[brave sinew]

AE is Apollo engenearing
AE is the company that make everything we know in the isle
But like hacker said, there is AC? AP?

[pseudo fable]

Apollo Pharmaceuticals North, Apollo Red, Mercury Beneficial.

[ionic sable]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-observing-book-writing-notes-gif-5516755

[pseudo fable]

There's more, but mostly irrelevant and only exist for paperwork and stories.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/holyshit-jurassic-park-alan-grant-sam-neil-shocked-gif-5399511

[brave sinew]

Noted.

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-notes-noted-gif-26232003

[lethal moat]

Stories you say

[pale marsh]

lore nerds eating good tonight

[pseudo fable]

There are also completely unrelated ones by name that are bought up.

[ionic sable]

Apollo Files lore going up in flames rn

[pale marsh]

hacker kicking and screaming rn

[acoustic osprey]

library of Alexandria (Apollo Files)

[pseudo fable]

There's one of those.

But it's called the Tomb.

[pale marsh]

did it also go up in flames?

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[pseudo fable]

There might be correlation as to its mentioning.

[brave sinew]

Pls resume lore about apollo variants, monke brain dont work fast

[pseudo fable]

Also, this iceberg just seems to be random words.

[ionic sable]

Hmmm, I should probably go for another simple thing.

Would Apollo reasonably have ties to nations around the globe? Not only in terms of funding in exchange for products and research Apollo provides, but also requesting or managing specific programs within Apollo. For instance, if the USA wanted to research something, would they request that of Apollo?

Or is Apollo entirely self reliant and self focused.

[pale marsh]

how much of what AE does, is known to the public?

[lethal moat]

So, it's a medical company, which presumibly means it has incredible amounts of funds

[pseudo fable]

When you play with what they play with, you do not get the courtesy of choice.

[ionic sable]

Because I reference back to the scale of Apollo's projects and capabilities, they would need some form of direct large scale funding right?

[acoustic osprey]

if it has multiple companies under it's belt, and international, it would be very hard to hide such

[pseudo fable]

Well, plenty is public facing.

[ionic sable]

Not to mention the Pharmaceuticals aspect, I reckon that at least is a public facing company.

[pseudo fable]

Show 90% and the other 10% is easy to hide.

Especially when you recruit the way they do.

[maiden sundial]

I mean. Companies are really. Really good at shutting people up. If they're capable of handling the strains. I think they're definitely going to tell governments and stuff to take some money. And leaf us alone

[pale marsh]

then id imagine the dino related stuff is kept under, very, very tight lock and key

[ionic sable]

Speaking of recruiting, they must have one hell of an NDA.

[pseudo fable]

Expatriation.

[acoustic osprey]

Ah, fair.
Going sith, Palps, with it

[vocal relic]

Hell, I’m still stuck with mine for another what? 4 years?

[maiden sundial]

I bet They have SCP foundation level stuff

[lethal moat]

Sounds like signing soul over to the devil by joining the darker parts of the company

[pale marsh]

thats, interesting?

[acoustic osprey]

Well, to the extent of hiding everything. Sure, companies can definitely hide a good portion of what they're doing.
Wolf of Wall street practically

[brave sinew]

I will try to sum up the isle lore really quick

[knotty locust]

so AE used the matriarch as a biological factory to pump out materials they needed?

[acoustic osprey]

🫵

[pseudo fable]

Nope. Just a byproduct of research.

[knotty locust]

hmm

[sick ivy]

so when u become a hypo or something else ur hunger is gonna get bigger?

[maiden sundial]

Is echidna the mother of the eyeless still?

[vocal relic]

[pseudo fable]

When you're in, you're in.

[sick ivy]

i forgot theyr name:/

[vocal relic]

I wonder what the worker benefits are like

[pale marsh]

expatriation huh? "the removal or withdrawal from ones native land" forced or willing? am i using the right definition?

[ionic sable]

Would retirement still be an option?

[maiden sundial]

Your essentially joining the SCP foundation? And if you tell anyone what you've seen your scrubbed from existence?

[knotty locust]

wonder what their dental plans are like

[sick ivy]

they put u in a dark little room and interrogate u if u hear anything

[ionic sable]

For instance, sign on for a 12 year hire, take your pay, and get out?

If there is no leave then they must not have many employed

[acoustic osprey]

real cult stuff, I imagine you just don't leave

[vocal relic]

I bet they’re all injected with DNA giving them perfect teeth

[maiden sundial]

Damn. I want perfect teeth.

[acoustic osprey]

Depends on the information you know,
Maybe you don't just leave

[pseudo fable]

Maybe they don't want to.

[sick ivy]

maybe u can’t just leave

[lethal moat]

Does this apply to anyone who sees anything or just those who know what they see, would contractors for the constuction of sites be allowed to leave, etc.

[knotty locust]

i mean as long as i get paid good i dont care what unethical experiments you perform

dont care if it happens to thee, as long as it happens not to me

[acoustic osprey]

Why would you want to leave Apollo!

[maiden sundial]

Don't want to?

[acoustic osprey]

Why not be a God with us?

[maiden sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/and-the-plot-thickens-feltface-randy-randy-buys-a-bookshelf-off-gumtree-morgan-gif-13917018

[pseudo fable]

Great pitch. Not the motive.

[brave sinew]

AE (Also know as apollo) is a company that went to some islands like spyro and thenya and started creating things for human benefit, like cures, but they created things like matriarch, replicator, colosssus and reaper
Tartarus seems to be a place where the strains like hypos are
Gateway is the gate (duuuh) to it
Matriarch is a rapdily evolving creature that can intake biomass and reproduce certain physical properties
Replicator is a AI, that is praised like a god by tribals
(Too lazy to type more)

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

[vocal relic]

I’m telling you man. Those worker’s benefits must be AMAZING like better than Starbucks

[pale marsh]

now i wanna say AE can wipe peoples memories and use some form of mind control, maybe subliminal suggestion or maybe something more, direct?

[lethal moat]

Is the replicator functioning as intended or is it doing it's own thing?

[acoustic osprey]

We all drink Olive Oil Tea here at AE

[brave sinew]

AYO I WAS AWAY FOR 5 MINUTES, WHAT HAPPEND?

[ionic sable]

Time for another shot in the dark...

Might this be tied directly to the thousand life contract?

[knotty locust]

oh boy

neuro strains

[sick ivy]

so matriarch just eat and evolve?

[acoustic osprey]

me when Echidna perfectly sounds like my dead best friend

[pale marsh]

maybe not nueros directly, but perhaps part of the reason they were developed, or a "happy side effect"??

[pseudo fable]

It may possibly be that because it's fiction that the company isn't something you can just blanket use the term "evil" with.

[ionic sable]

Becoming essentially immortal is basically the strongest offer they could give assuming it would be within their immediate capabilities.

[brave sinew]

I just repeated what Don said.

[knotty locust]

morally grey

[pseudo fable]

Cool theory. Again, not the objective.

[acoustic osprey]

Apollo is complex

[sick ivy]

hey don, so matriarch just eat and evolve and do we have any oficial arts of it?

[acoustic osprey]

they're still figuring out if they wanna be evil or neutral, a lot of think about

[ionic sable]

Nice, I was very scared that Apollo would just be a one note "evil" company.

[pseudo fable]

Lips are sealed, chief.

[acoustic osprey]

Very glad it's not true genetic evil company

[sick ivy]

k

[ionic sable]

Speaking back to Apollo's corporate structure, I wonder if they are focused around a board of executives, or a single CEO with his own motivations.

[pale marsh]

i mean, from a utilitarian perspective, even if AE does horrid stuff, do the ends justify the means? does that make them good or bad? idk, doesnt, matter to me much, maybe i just think of it differently

[pseudo fable]

No. There are terrible things that happen. Some terrible things are by necessity. Some terrible things are completely by choice and it can be argued whether or not those choices were worth the contribution it makes to the overall continuation of the objective.

There's also terrible things that happen because of sabotage.

[acoustic osprey]

imagine if a guy named Miguel existed

[pseudo fable]

First one, then the other.

[ionic sable]

That would be wild.

[maiden sundial]

Oh? So there's some "good" with Æ. Well if they are trying to perfect humanity for a better future. A noble ish goal. Albeit terrible execution.

[brave sinew]

I so lost at the lore rn that for me Apollo is God doing a little bit of trolling with old ideas from 66 millions years ago

[lethal moat]

So were gen 1s altered beings already there already there or results of past experiments?

[sick ivy]

so like where did apollo got so much money?

[lethal moat]

Medicine

[maiden sundial]

Iirc they are past experiments gone wrong.

[rustic urchin]

What’s going on in here

[pseudo fable]

Food.

[ionic sable]

That begs the obvious question, assuming this CEO has his own motivations, would that just so happen to play into the downfall of the company?

[maiden sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/kermit-say-what-what-gif-15506364

[rustic urchin]

Is AE this universes version of Tyson?

[lethal moat]

HOLD UP

[sick ivy]

u eat remedies?

[acoustic osprey]

Apollo Food Industry, best chicken on the market

[pale marsh]

apollo does more than create man made[?] horrors beyond our comprehension

[brave sinew]

Stop asking what is Apollo, what is that. What is** The isle** after all?

[lethal moat]

Lab Grown meat?

[rustic urchin]

Acting like gmo chickens aren’t just that

[ionic sable]

@hoary scroll CALLED IT

[sick ivy]

yo so apollo exits because the word was in a food issue?

[hoary scroll]

lmfao

[pseudo fable]

No.

[pale marsh]

no, modern produce is, do you know just how inbred the fruits and veggies we eat are?

[maiden sundial]

They making food?

[ionic sable]

[sick ivy]

.

[knotty locust]

ah

shantungosaurus

(good source of food)

[ionic sable]

Apollo Agriculture for the win!

[rustic urchin]

AE?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/clarkson-farm-farmer-tantrum-jeremy-jeremy-clarkson-gif-22201586

[hoary scroll]

our storyline is not cannon @ionic sable if we still want to go for it

[sick ivy]

but why the whole dino thing then if the issue is food

[pseudo fable]

Multiverse stories are cool. Do it.

[ionic sable]

Yeah if you scroll up our lore even down to the fundamentals is already up in flames, I'm just a long for the ride.

[knotty locust]

can you imagine how much food a brachiosaurus would provide

[acoustic osprey]

hell yeah!

[hoary scroll]

[hoary scroll]

[pseudo fable]

I've watched the videos. Accuracy doesn't matter. Passion does.

[hoary scroll]

true!

[pseudo fable]

No reason you can't take the assets and make your own story.

[acoustic osprey]

redoing of Apollo Files, can't wait till Gateway!!
I wanna do something proper now

[vocal relic]

I need to film on gateway.

[hoary scroll]

I feel you'll enjoy our new series, we're stepping up the production value and actually hiring people instead of winging it

[maiden sundial]

Though something I was thinking about. Why make humans. Especially ones that are better. My assumption is to perfect humanity. But then again. Why have such motives in the first place?

[acoustic osprey]

never!

[ionic sable]

In that case, I'll take our lore to the farthest extent we can

[hoary scroll]

but we need this

[acoustic osprey]

I've assumed Medicine and Godplex
but, who knows anymore

[rustic urchin]

Loophole for human testing laws maybe?

[sick ivy]

so apollo is attempting to create hoomans that don’t demand food?

[pale marsh]

i gotta ask, is there a meaningful in universe reason on why dinos [and the occasional other non dino reptile] specifically?

[hoary scroll]

so we gotta wait till update 7 to fully start making the series, but that gives us time to write :3

[pseudo fable]

Nope.

[maiden sundial]

But why have them sent to the island? And judging by concept arts. Do field work?

[acoustic osprey]

we all starve with John Evrima

[sick ivy]

is apollo related to military?

[brave sinew]

Dmoura its shoting at the dark right now

[knotty locust]

which dinosaur is the tastiest

[vocal relic]

I will be at your service until then, anything you’d need me to do for my role at the moment?

[ionic sable]

To be fair, I was fairly certain our lore wasn't even gonna be close to real lore even when we were making the outline.

[pseudo fable]

I mean, the in-universe reason came after the decision to make the game.

The real reason is genuinely, "because dinosaurs" and it doesn't get any deeper than that. I wanted to make this type of game with dinosaurs.

[snow fable]

really gotta get into some isle lore cause it seems lit

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/monsters-inc-mr-waternoose-what-else-can-go-wrong-whats-the-worst-that-could-happen-could-it-get-any-worse-gif-24009775

[pseudo fable]

But the in-universe answer goes much deeper because it has to.

[pale marsh]

no i get that, but i love those, small meaningless lore tidbits

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hoary scroll]

yeah ik but its sad when it's confirmed, but that gives us more room to do our own thing instead of just using isle lore

[acoustic osprey]

Good.
Especially when we get to learn about it- hardest to explain to people who cannot take in the fact that AE could do such

[pale marsh]

i eat that stuff up more than like, that actuall revelations and major story beats

[ionic sable]

Please give us a nudge in the right direction, the "why dinosaurs?" Has been by far the biggest hurdle thus far.

[acoustic osprey]

asking too much Hacker!!

[hoary scroll]

^^^

[brave sinew]

Apollo inventions should cause some bioterrorism events at the isle world

[ionic sable]

https://tenor.com/view/fantastic-mr-fox-rat-its-my-job-gif-25206974

[pale marsh]

even if its something like " the ceo/ founder really likes trex", or something stupid, i love that stuff

[sick ivy]

so is apollo military related? and is apollo a private company?

[acoustic osprey]

from what we know, either not directly or not at all (military related)

[pseudo fable]

Everything ends up being another step to circumvent permanently or at least lifetime spanning issues that cannot be overcome.

You actually get to dinosaurs in a very few amount of steps from food. Playing big G with dinosaurs aren't even that far in the company timeline.

[knotty locust]

the end is never the end

[sick ivy]

wdym

[ionic sable]

(Subtle spoiler on this one.)

[acoustic osprey]

The Meaning Of Life

[pseudo fable]

But to be clear, food doesn't directly translate to dinosaurs. There was an outside force of compulsion (in-universe) as to that direction.

[pale marsh]

hmm, inchresting

[lethal moat]

Some sort of disaster releaf?

[acoustic osprey]

income reasons for research funding, maybe?

[sick ivy]

is that force AE itself?

[brave sinew]

What is AE purpose after all?

[rustic urchin]

Save the world

[sick ivy]

from what

[ionic sable]

In our story at least, the food and agriculture development came as a byproduct of their main research motivations...

(I'll leave this one for Light's doc.)

[vocal relic]

My final message.

Goodbye

[acoustic osprey]

hm

[pseudo fable]

It can still work. It's inverted.

[acoustic osprey]

food and agriculture origin?

[rustic urchin]

Seemingly food crisis, disease/health crisis, and eventually dinosaurs get roped in

Seems AE wants to try and solve the big ticket world problems

[ionic sable]

(Another spoiler.)

[sick ivy]

so dino’s and messing dna is a byproduct of tryna solve food? like a byproduct of messing with plant genes

[pale marsh]

food an agricultural roots hmm? now i gotta see what/if any ties that has to apollo the god himself [im already expecting this to be a dead end]

oh, apollo was a patron god of shepards

[vocal relic]

Maybe trying to mess with chickens to make more food and eventually end up with some dinosaurified chicken, then they just lean into it

[acoustic osprey]

Demeter wasn't a cool enough name

[pale marsh]

i disagree personally

[sick ivy]

yeah they just problaby leaned into it

[brave sinew]

Apollo being related to food, explains why they want things like Matriarch, but they are also releated to Medicine soo, good luck everybody solving this lore, i going to sleep, good night everybody

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/got-tywin-lannister-lion-sheep-opinions-gif-5743707

[pseudo fable]

Demeter is sick and was the name of a ship and it's actually a movie now so I scrapped that.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[rustic urchin]

Maybe the dinosaur thing gets roped in with AE wanting to try and help the environmental crisis? Like at some point it was acknowledged that the change in climate and subsequent extinction of a lot of the planets life is inevitable, so instead they try and “fix extinction” or something idk

Honestly I really just want to see in-lore AE trying to de-extinct more “boring” things like recently extinct animals, or highly endangered ones. Like passenger pigeons or Chinese paddlefish

[ionic sable]

I figured.

Now all we need to know is what the hell that byproduct led to specifically. 🫠

Because I kinda doubt the byproduct was dinosaurs, maybe a form of bacteria leading to strain research? But that would still leave the dinosaur gap.

[pseudo fable]

Go look up, "Last Voyage of the Demeter"

You're welcome in advance.

[sick ivy]

so they tryna upgrade hooman with strains that’s why we got those guys

[acoustic osprey]

oh wow, the poster look sick

[ionic sable]

^

[rustic urchin]

I thought it sounded familiar. We got the poster up on the wall at our local theater

[acoustic osprey]

I'll have a look, and a watch when it releases here

[vestal agate]

Isaac and Hacker could be lore devs

[acoustic osprey]

https://imgur.com/a/NzGOL4t

[vestal agate]

Unpaid ofc

[ionic sable]

We kinda are, just Apollo Files lore lol

[pale marsh]

tbh apollo being a patron god of herdsman and shepards, yunno, live stock, feeels more appropriate given we mostly see the live animal/dino side of things, tho id imagine has done plenty and plenty of work with plant life, even after deciding to "play god"

[sick ivy]

anyone confirm that for me? or is this wrong

[vestal agate]

Blame eyeseeyou for the influx of people

[acoustic osprey]

Apollo has links to crops, no?
You could, could, even link to Apollo to a few other micro sections of his connection in stories to humans and just Hellenism itself

[raw olive]

honestly it looks like dinos are less a "immortality/gene modification" experiment and more a "can we farm these mfs?" like the hyperendocrines are strange but at a base level dinosaurs are probably very nutritious and if you can kinda just make dinosaurs then you have pretty good food for an undernourished world

[pseudo fable]

They're not used for food.

[pale marsh]

maybe? id have too look deeper, but im mostly seeing regards to livestock

[acoustic osprey]

more so a by-product of the research/production?

[raw olive]

hmm, maybe some sort of ecological manipulation? i can see them having a massive impact on things like that. hell use a utah as a sheepdog lmao

[pale marsh]

and ofc the usual, sun god, healing, prophecy, etc

[acoustic osprey]

The Sun
AE want to harvest the sun

[sick ivy]

is apollo focous on food and was apollo created because of the food or the whole food situation setted up technology for apollo to exist

[pale marsh]

they are STEALING THE SUN

[acoustic osprey]

Helios? Pfft
Apollo and the sun is my favourite

[pseudo fable]

They're unfortunate and necessary.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-moon-gru-steve-carell-despicable-me-luna-gif-16560528
moon Sun

[vestal agate]

I wonder if AE is going to be a morally Grey organization deeply involved in the story or just something that kinda looms over everything in the background of things

[raw olive]

oooooooooooooh, hmm. maybe dinosaurs arent at all what we're looking for?

[acoustic osprey]

ah. Presuming basically no/minimal laws to protect such as well, or even just loopholes

[pale marsh]

man i really wanna know that step between food and dinos, id imagine that help put AES goals into a better perspective, any hints mayhaps?

[ionic sable]

Hmmm, while Don is here, I think I would like to ask a question that should be familiar to him.

Three endings in mind.

One is a more optimistic ending where most things get resolved peacefully-ish, but leaves it very open to continuation.

One where the story comes to a dark end, with very little hope for the future. This would be an absolute end to everything.

And one where the story has a very depressing occurrence, but the story and characters, either forced or by their own will... continue past that point.

[acoustic osprey]

Have to read some Homer, I guess

wonder if we're still going the twitter voted route

[pseudo fable]

AE's roots are in botany. That's where they start.

[pale marsh]

botany hmm

[rustic urchin]

Food- solve hunger crisis
Medicine- solve disease/health crisis
Dinosaurs- for some lore reason possibly they’re the best candidates for strain development?

[acoustic osprey]

makes sense to see the botany site designation then on the network graph

[pale marsh]

well, now im even more confused

[pseudo fable]

Leave the third to me.

[sick ivy]

so AE started on botany gene stuff and shifted towards dinos? but why

[rustic urchin]

And strain connection to medicine seems pretty straight forward unless I’m wrong

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png
Try not to be, we've seen their funny botany stuff before

[ionic sable]

Roger.

[rustic urchin]

Plants are easier to deal with than animals

[pale marsh]

i dont trust anything that seems straightforward

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[sick ivy]

maybe it’s literally just an até o to buff hoomans

[pale marsh]

you have link o all of these, i guess i need to do some reading

[sick ivy]

k but the problema is food no dinos

[acoustic osprey]

the images or the actual site designations?

[pale marsh]

the images

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1072247114043760640/Summary-E2911.png
These are the only two

excluding the multiple dino glance sheets

[vestal agate]

So they start the prehistoric stuff in paleobotany?

[rustic urchin]

Hyperendocrin could be tumor/cancer treatment, the similarities are there
Neurotenics, maybe Alzheimer’s or some other brain related disease?
Tissos I got no clue, maybe skin disease idk

[pseudo fable]

These take considerably longer to write and are far less important to the overall story which is why you don't see more. Keeping them in the bank because there's not tons pre-made for the game.

[acoustic osprey]

skin regeneration

[ionic sable]

We went the route of paleobotany, but it really didn't make any damn sense to go from Paleo plants to Paleo fauna.

[pseudo fable]

Admittedly, they are more fun to write.

[acoustic osprey]

it was very fun, over the first few weeks from it's release, with going crazy about it

[vestal agate]

Better regeneration, for things such as lost limbs organs etc

[pale marsh]

thats what im upset about, i have no idea why theyd make that leap

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/H0Rh.gif

[acoustic osprey]

nice

[sick ivy]

good sign

[ionic sable]

Do you think you'll use document trails or something akin to fallout to have various "quests"? I know it isn't all that lore related but still.

[acoustic osprey]

would Matriarch then have some sort of connection through that route?

[pale marsh]

makes me think of axolotls, heh, tisso are now just axolotls in my mind

[vestal agate]

My carnos going to starve I'll rejoin shortly

[hoary scroll]

Will there be some lore for humans to find in update 7?

[ionic sable]

Did I miss something on Matriarch lore recently?

[acoustic osprey]

Lorem Ipsum!!!

[pseudo fable]

Negative. Need to sort out interaction and how to store the info you find so it remains permanently. Need that UI and such.

[acoustic osprey]

just a nice brief description

[ionic sable]

My favorite lore.