isle-lore-theories

[icy onyx]

Looks like me after 3:00 am

[acoustic osprey]

literally!!

[icy onyx]

I don’t think tribals got the balls to deal with them😂

Little gurgle lizards

[pale marsh]

Modern humans will wrestle bears

8ft tall ork men will chokehold a dilo into submission

[icy onyx]

Only this bear has venom and 20 others around it!

[acoustic osprey]

vs a group of 8ft monster humanoids

[icy onyx]

i feel like I’d choose fighting a dilo over a troodon.

[pale marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/apes-together-strong-0p1sf-gif-20906166

And spears

[icy onyx]

I feel they would put you in your place very quick

You see one troodon then you see many more

[modern rover]

tribals 100% got the balls to take em on

tribals are absolute nutjobs

[icy onyx]

you sure their not Irish

we’re mad in the head too

[modern rover]

the irish crumble in their presence

[modern rover]

@acoustic osprey smh x zag made a vid saying AE made the dinos for military intentions 😔

[strange shell]

Dinos for military purposes
Clearly the best idea ever

[modern rover]

clearly

but now all of his subs are going to think that's the lore

[strange shell]

I never watched any of X Zaguer's videos, but I always hear a lot of things from them
Maybe I should watch

[worn rapids]

cue 100 troodon broadcasts

[worn rapids]

very obviously wrong some Dinos, but the Omni makes sense to be made for war

[strange shell]

It's barely useful

[worn rapids]

Same with troodon, and the super sneaky ninja cranos

[modern rover]

none are

not a single one is remotely viable for war

[worn rapids]

what’s the lore then

[strange shell]

Medicine

[modern rover]

^

[worn rapids]

what

that makes less sense

[strange shell]

There's nothing an omni can do better than a dog in a war situation
And I suspect it would be much harder to control an omni than a dog

[modern rover]

and strains are no better. Hypers would starve before they could do anything on the battlefield, neuros more than likely have massive physical vulnerabilities, tissos can only be so stealthy when in an open battlefield. This isn't even mentioning how impossible they are to control

[strange shell]

Nothing makes less sense than resurrecting dinos for military purposes

[strange shell]

And none of them would survive a direct hit from an explosive projectile

[modern rover]

why would i revive dinos when a gun is just as lethal to a human but from range

a t rex will kill a human quick, sure, but so will a gun

[worn rapids]

Well I’d imagine, it started truly because it’s just cool to have dinosaurs.

But the strains are definitely viable in war

[strange shell]

Nope

[modern rover]

the only time a dino is needed is to kill other dinos, but both sides would be making the dumb choice by even considering them as an asset to their military efforts considering they're melee-only and no more effective than just shooting the opponent

hypers are COMPLETELY unviable in war, because they'd die before the battle really even started

[worn rapids]

Drop like a hypo behind enemy lines, then it dies of starvation before it becomes a problem

Or drop a tisso into a dense forest/jungle and let it rip

[modern rover]

how do you drop a several dozen ton behemoth that wants to eat you subtly behind enemy lines

[strange shell]

Hyper = Takes billions just to keep alive, will probably eat all of its owners even becofre it's send to the battlefield, is one-use only, dies to one tank round
Literally like a bomb but MUCH more costly, more dangerous for its owner and much less effective

[modern rover]

a bomb is basically a hyper but more effective, yea

if i wanted a group of people dead, i'd use a bombing run

[strange shell]

Neuros have super-intelligence so they'd likely rebel against their owners
As for tissos, it's the same cost/effectiveness problem
Just use a commando if you want to do stealthy jungle ops

[worn rapids]

I mean, they don’t have to work. But it makes sense in theory why they are that way.

[modern rover]

a giant dinosaur is more costly, less reliable and far easier for the opposition to just avoid

[strange shell]

If dinos have been made for military purposes, it should be clearly expressed that they were a considerable failure

[worn rapids]

Oh damn you kinda making sense now

The regular Dinos were made because just cool, and the strains would exist for medicinal

[strange shell]

It reminds me of Resident Evil with Umbrella's bs
The "bio-weapons" only work because they completely ignore the laws of physics and can tank 650 bullets to the head

(But die in 3 kicks from a certain special forces agent)

The reason why AE made DINOS specifically is still a big mystery

[modern rover]

the medical purposes each have their reasoning, essentially, each strain represents a facet of humanity that would be benefited.

Hypers are physical powerhouses with a notable healing factor. If perfected, they can increase human physical health, healing, survivability, longevity and growth.
Neuros can assist in increasing intelligence and memory, as well as tackling more difficult mental conditions like dementia, brain damage, loss of coordination and so on
Tissos can modify their appearance, so naturally, they'd translate well to the cosmetic sector, allowing people to easily and quickly change their appearance to fit their desires without lengthy and difficult surgery with botched results

[strange shell]

(Nothing's confirmed about tissos they are being remade)

[modern rover]

The issue we have is all 3 of these guys are very clearly flawed to the nines and absolutely not ready for commercial distribution

[strange shell]

Although yes, their name heavily implies metamorphic capabilities

[modern rover]

But all three have medical possibilities that can be applied to humans, in a more stable and controlled state with less mutatey side-effects

[strange shell]

What if Gen-2 are actually Type-M humans ? (I know magnas no longer exist but now it's about humans)

[modern rover]

i HATE type-M so I refuse to acknowledge the possibility

[strange shell]

Think Wavepoole, think !
Gen-1 were an attempt at creating "better" humans.
What does AE have up their sleeve to improve things ? Strains.
Mis-dosed strain juice led them to become what they are now.
Gen-2 are the same... But with better dosing

That'd also explain why tribals can mutate
They got latent strain potential

[modern rover]

i still think if Type-M exists as a "perfected version of Type-H" why the hell is it still around? If you fixed the problems with Type-H, and now its free of the downsides, what's the point of keeping Type-H around, or more importantly, what's the point of continuing the Type-H initiative?

[strange shell]

I've been more thinking of Type M as being a combination of all the 3 strains

[modern rover]

i mean, it very clearly wasn't that when it was around

maybe Type-O will be that

[strange shell]

Maybe
That's what it should have been anyway

[modern rover]

But Type-M was literally "haha Type-H but better"

[strange shell]

So let's reformulate

Gen 2 are type O humans

[acoustic osprey]

I gave my heavy rant to him, don't worry

[acoustic osprey]

I'd presume, more so, that the Dinos were GMOs
Give or take

[worn rapids]

But I’d imagine there was a time for everything.

You know when they first made dinosaurs it’s probably just for “cool dinosaurs are back”, and then study and such, there was probably a point in which a stupid security commander or general was like “let’s use these to kill people”

[acoustic osprey]

tisso stuff.
Done.
Finally found it

Don replied to the wrong message
Was to Chips

[acoustic osprey]

i just hope it isn't Drone Quetz

it's a funny coincidence, sure, that they were talked about at the same time
but looking at the context and timing

I hope not

[compact hazel]

So how's the good ol theory about transplanting human conscious into dinosaur bodies? Still holds?

[strange shell]

We don't know
Old is being scrapped, so for now let's assume it's no longer canon
Until it is

[compact hazel]

Gang

What's the mostly accepted explanation for the dinosaurs now

[strange shell]

They exist

For... medical reasons

[compact hazel]

Go on

[strange shell]

There's nothing else

Lore is dry as the Gobi Desert rn

We know that the reason AE made dinosaurs specifically might be for legal reasons... like about the ethics of experimenting on animals

[compact hazel]

Mhmm aight

What's the replicator

[strange shell]

God
But a machine

[compact hazel]

How does it work and what does it do

[strange shell]

How does it work : We don't know, we don't even know if it's man-made or not
What does it do : It creates dinosaurs, mutants, mutant dinosaurs, cults, and entire islands

[gentle vessel]

I doubt it makes islands

But it might like, heavily alter em to its needs

By replicating plants and the like

[icy onyx]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1099399424263860316/1099811459199942656/c8b6a534-1489-40f1-b123-608704496e55.gif

[pale marsh]

What are the theories as to the purpose of the connection to Greek mythos?

[acoustic osprey]

God complex

Very easy to relate your product to the Gods, and naming aspects and your company over them

[swift echo]

yay

[gentle vessel]

Also the fact that western culture loves copying Greek stuff

[swift echo]

cough cough Hercules Disney movie Cough cough

[gentle vessel]

Not even that

A ton of our stuff name wise and looks wise takes from Greek stuff

[swift echo]

oh yeah, just- in general

[gentle vessel]

Since western culture grew out of Roman culture, who took from the greeks

[acoustic osprey]

Greece is in the west!!!!!

[worn rapids]

How is eldar Dinos gonna fit into the lore?

[strange shell]

They grow old

[worn rapids]

But how does that make them more powerful?

[strange shell]

Reptiles grow and become larger throughout their entire life

[pale marsh]

Elders are just the prime of the dinos life. Zero lore
It's just their growth pattern and life span

[sand seal]

There’s not a story behind every tree branch. Sometimes things get old.

[acoustic gull]

Yall know of the EIP or Embyo Intelligence Profile? Sorry I'm kinda late to the party so I'm just trying to collect as much info on the lore as I can and share what little knowledge of the lore I know

As far as I know. The EIP is our steam profile. Meaning that everyone who plays the isle or bought the game is now apart of the lore itself.

[acoustic osprey]

EIPs are no longer canon

Old lore
unless reconfirmed by Don

[acoustic gull]

Wow!!! I'm very late to the party then lol. Know where I can go to for the canon lore?

[acoustic gull]

Nvm lol. I saw the docs u posted further up the channel page. But I still have alot of questions tho. Consider me an avid lore learner/gatherer

Yeah. Just going back up the channel page I can see I'm so far behind. Im only finding old lore that isn't canon anymore. I need the canon lore

[acoustic osprey]

Lol it's ok

Very painful, lore at the moment

[acoustic gull]

Know where I can start? Those lore docs you posted perhaps?

On a side note. Of all the dinos they are bringing back. I hope...realllyyy really hope they bring back the Titan Boa...I want it. Snakes are my most favorite of any animal. I hope they are capable of doing a remodel and making it playable

[acoustic osprey]

My lore doc for current stuff

And I'll send my copypasata

Here is pretty much the basics

AE (Apollo Engineering) is a bio-engineering company
AE made dinosaurs. AE also made mutated (strained) dinosaurs.
This took place all around the 90s (approximate)

AE also made mutated humans
- When? Who knows, but we can presume during AE's "Prime" in the 90s (?)
- These humans are known as "Tribals"/Cannibals/Generation One

Tribals slowly went crazy and mad per cycle

Sometime later, around current modern times, AE makes Generation Two
- Generation Two are also known as "Mercs" ||just to clarify, they aren't mercenaries any longer||/Humans
There is soo much more. But some of it is speculative canon and some of it is unconfirmed canon (lore from Legacy that we don't know will be in Evrima)

[pale marsh]

We know strains are for "medicine" but do we know anything else
Even what they aren't?

[acoustic gull]

Thankyou! I'll definitely read it

[acoustic osprey]

No
Besides not being, initially, for military reasons

[pale marsh]

...
We need more lore drops u-u

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/anonymiss-no-face-anonymity-gif-14784709

[swift echo]

GUYS I NEED MORE INFO ON ISLANDWALKERS!! (im making a text documentary)

Q: how large are they?
A:

Q: if they are that large, how do they cause seismic activity?
A:

Q: any theories on how they look?

[icy onyx]

big

[icy onyx]

idk

[icy onyx]

square

[pale marsh]

Aren't islandwalkers old lore?

[silver current]

Tis very old lore, many people theorize that the giant bones that are in legacy, were islandwalker but i dont think we ever got a confirmation about that

[acoustic osprey]

very

[acoustic osprey]

Just look at the bones in V3 titan lake

[acoustic osprey]

https://i.imgur.com/KureaE8.jpg

Never true confirmation
but seeing as it was the biggest thing known in Legacy (the bones)

one would guess

don't think it'll be ever put into Evrima

[silver current]

Yea, since we are put on a new island we have yet to discover the new lore. the old lore will be locked in legacy, Same with hypos.

[pale marsh]

Hypers aren't gone they're still gonna be a thing

[stiff lintel]

Type M has been ranamed to Type 0

[maiden sundial]

The ones that were from primal are canceled iirc

[acoustic osprey]

No, not with Hypers

[acoustic osprey]

most likely

Maybe

[modern rover]

not entirely true, Type M has been replaced with Type O, Type M itself is gone

[acoustic osprey]

more or less

M-Quetz is replaced with O-Quetz

but no hard yes to O's being a thing
outside of Quetz

but, if it exists for Quetz, why not for the rest of them

unless O is just Drone Quetz

and just the nickname for it

[novel cosmos]

Weren't there things called Island striders or something

That were so big that they could literally walk ON islands like they are a damn step stool

Would be awesome to see a strider as a dynamic event where they just walk on or over the island your on

[strange shell]

Island Walkers, but old lore

[worn rapids]

Is there any concept art to the island walkers?

And is the matriarch/human hybrids still canon?

[strange shell]

No

[strange shell]

Th matriarch was never really confirmed as canon afaik, but it's still possible
The human hybrids are still canon

[worn rapids]

Does this mean colossus and reaper are not canon too?

[strange shell]

I think Colossus is still canon, however Reaper and the whole tissoplastic strain are being redesigned

[worn rapids]

Is the colossus planned to be playable?

[pale marsh]

Doubt it personally

[worn rapids]

I hope it isn’t, something like that would kill the game.

[strange shell]

Well it's on the same level as the others type-H, which are planned to be playable

[worn rapids]

isn’t it supposed to be like an overpowered mutant that spawns fully grown and hypo?

[strange shell]

We know nothing about how hypers are obtained/how do they spawn

[pale marsh]

It's just a hyper human really
So its he no different than however hypers are done

I just don't think playable human strains will be a thing
Since humans will kinda each be doing their own thing removed from the dino gameplay loop

[acoustic osprey]

(what bubulblu said)

[swift echo]

what is echidna's name based on

the thing from greek mythology?

[acoustic osprey]

the name is probably just based off the actual half-woman and half-snake monster, Echidna

[swift echo]

ye that one, the mother of all monsters in greek mythology

[acoustic osprey]

good tie in with being the mother of Tribals

[swift echo]

wait I just remembered- isnt she the wife of that one monster- uh- Tiphon?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[swift echo]

that fit in the lore as anything?

[acoustic osprey]

nothing really

[swift echo]

dondi we need you 😠

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/anonymiss-no-face-anonymity-gif-14784709

[unborn atlas]

Imagine, Typhon being the secret name for the islandwalker

[acoustic osprey]

preferably wouldn't want island walkers back

without an actual solid reason for them to exist

and not just "wife to Echidna"

[pale marsh]

Refresh my memory on echidnas lore?

[silver current]

Hypos will still stay in lore but the chances of us getting hypos or any neuro is little-to no chance of getting it. hypos will destroy evrima as there hunger drain promotes more aggressive/kos behavior, and because they are more faster than anything they want to kill everything that moves

[pale marsh]

And
They will be incredibly difficult and rare to obtain
Making very rare to encounter
And just as powerful to boot

It Shouldnt be seen as just another playable. More of a ingame world event but player controlee

[silver current]

1. should they be stronger then the regular versions of themselves: yes, but not unkillable. and if we ever do get them as a reward, players should be rewarded by the sheer amount of time they put into there dinosaur.

infact, i think elders should grow stronger and not weak

[pale marsh]

Elders to grow stronger
And then get weak after

[silver current]

but thats exactly the point, they should be STRONGER not. Un killable

[acoustic osprey]

Well no

[silver current]

and on another note, strains werent there to coexist with the rooster in the first place

[acoustic osprey]

Hypers and other strains will come to game
They were originally planned to come in Update 7

Which is the next update from now
but, from what we've gathered, they likely wont because it's too early

There is a low chance of getting playable strain humans

aka. Echidna, Colossus and Reaper

[pale marsh]

I don't expect strains for a while

[acoustic osprey]

BUT, they will still be in isle's lore
of course

[silver current]

Strains are the LAST thing they should be implimenting

[acoustic osprey]

in my opinion, yes and no

it should, at least, be when humans have a proper gameplay system set-up

and we have basically all trello dinos in game

[silver current]

yes, they will still be in the lore but they are most likely not gonna be viable to players

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-in-hat-baseball-bat-gif-25723238

[silver current]

they are sterile creatures. they simply cannot pack with there own species (or with any dinosaur), and there maintenance is so demanding to the point where they literally have to eat non stop

[pale marsh]

Honestly
I hope they keep us in the dark on strains even after theve been implemented

[acoustic osprey]

(that's the point)

they're supposed to be an end-game alternative

[silver current]

overall, they will always stay in the hearts of isle lore but adding them to be playable will kill evrima

[acoustic osprey]

meant for a "I want a lot of fun for a short period of time"

[pale marsh]

A player controlled world event is probably a good way to summarize strains

[acoustic osprey]

compared to, "I'm picking the better controlled route and getting an elder reward"

[acoustic osprey]

they've never been implemented properly
Who knows

[silver current]

Yes that too but its not about how they were implemented into the game

overall, hypos are not dinosaurs. they are sterile unpackable monsters that are designed to do one thing, and one thing only.

[acoustic osprey]

yes, it's about how they are now

but, that's the thing, no one can accurately say "hypers will be bad"

as we've never seen a proper implementation to compare it to

[acoustic osprey]

Kill and shortly die

That's the point.
They're not meant to be replenishable

[silver current]

If they dont have food, which starving one out is the best option

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-robot-guards-thats-the-point-sergeant-gif-16725636

[pale marsh]

More than likely even with abundance of food hypers will still starve out
Just slower

Tho I wonder what kind of "timer" Nuero or tisso will get

[acoustic osprey]

it should be, for hypers, that their starvation slowly grows faster
(ticking rate increased over "time")

[pale marsh]

Exponential food drain sounds good to me

[acoustic osprey]

people think Neuros and Tissos are just renamed Hypers

aka. The same size and strength

[silver current]

i just hope that if they do reward us by giving us any type of strain, there way more stronger but not as strong as there original implement. People want them to be stronger not un killable machines

[silver current]

I wish we wouldve gotten more about tissos or sum

[acoustic osprey]

Hence they just say all hypers are going to inherintely bad because they're just bigger, stronger and have more health
Which is only really true for Hypers

[acoustic osprey]

that's the dream

[pale marsh]

I'm kinda hoping
That neuros timer will be that it's mind powers will take HP away

Maybe even slowly reduce it's max HP?

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, Neuros are open skin

make them super weak (in terms of health)

[pale marsh]

That to

[acoustic osprey]

anti-tanks

and Tissos, similar if you compare old stuff, might be "night-predators"

[pale marsh]

But the idea of it's brain over exerting itself with use its cool to me

[acoustic osprey]

in the literal sense
(They die if they touch light)

[pale marsh]

Explodes a dryos brain and in turn explodes it's own

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dracula-vampire-gif-19016399

[silver current]

Idk about hp draining of neuro

[acoustic osprey]

not a fan of hp draining

having extremely low health sounds solid enough on paper

[silver current]

id love to keep the hyper intelligence, emit emps, telekinetic shields and lead cross species packs :)

[silver current]

I dont think neuros were meant to be strong, they were made for i think medicine and defensiv

defense

[bold crater]

Perhaps Neuros using their abilities takes some form of toll on them?

[pale marsh]

True but I don't like the idea of any strain being able to last forever if kept safe

[acoustic osprey]

(all of them were made for medicine, technically)

[acoustic osprey]

the more you use
the more pale they become

and then they die

[silver current]

Unless there face to face with another nuero or a hypo

[acoustic osprey]

they have to play with that honestly

I'm fine with Hypers being the only truly "timed" experience

being the literal "OP of OP" things

[pale marsh]

Under no circumstances should strains be common enough that there are multiple at a time

That's one hill I'll die on

[silver current]

Lmao yea its unlikely there gonna fight in the fight place

[pale marsh]

A hard limit on the amounts strains at a time would be nice. With a cooldown

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, no

if I spent ages trying to get a strain
and then the server says: Too much already today

don't check my steam review

limiting, to me, is not a fair thing (a pretty bad thing)
Especially if I earnt it

[pale marsh]

Yea
But then I worry about people coordinating to have like
5 hypers at once or something

Ideally what I'd have. Is u unlock the ability to grow into a strain. And can then activate it to begin doing so

And with the limit active it just denies your and doesn't let u do until later
Ideally telling u how long is left

[silver current]

Yea i just hope that, the limit of hypos and strains will literally be 1-2 each

[acoustic osprey]

that's why it should be both a very hard and slow thing to get (basically, 5 hypers could play on that server. But at the same time? Theoretically not really)

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/over-the-hedge-pood-poodhub-over-the-hedge-gif-hoa-lady-house-gif-26366244

[pale marsh]

I guess it really depends on how u even get a strain

[bold crater]

I imagine regular growth would have to be made challenging for once first. I can't see how strains would be anywhere near difficult with things like current nutrients.

[silver current]

and the fact that the hypos were ONLY carnivores put the ledge on carnivores compared to herbis was extremely unfair lmao

[acoustic osprey]

are only

[silver current]

if we ever DO get strain, may there be atleast 2 herbis with neuro or tisso, since we got little to nothing about tisso

[swift echo]

blind in day?

[acoustic osprey]

below message

but blind in day could work

[swift echo]

then comes the issue to coordinate

caves?

also im drawing echidna 🙂

[worn rapids]

Strains die fast apparently, just wait for one to die and then boom.

[acoustic osprey]

(Hypers)

[modern rover]

i feel like this is personal opinion, and based on what devs have said, strains are still planned, if not going to be even bigger and better than they were in legacy

[strange shell]

Neuros being unable to regain health in any way could be interesting
They don't lose health perpetually, but if a dryo bites them, the scar will be permanent

[modern rover]

that would be an interesting nerf tbh

[native rune]

Whats a neuro

[silver current]

We dont rlly know that, yes concept art has been released but dont think they will be viable to players. They will end legacy and think about the rest of the communities perspective on getting ran up by a hyper thats x2 the weight and size of u and faster then u

6hr of work down the drain, Hypos werent even implemented correctly and werent even there to coexist with other dinos or its own

[modern rover]

things aren't as black and white as legacy

evrima accounts for much more than legacy did

giga also flushed hours down the drain, because it was extremely good at killing midtiers

[silver current]

Thats a giga and its killing midtiers. but hypers arent ur normal giga

they do trample damage, injury, bleed health everything

[modern rover]

they're also much bigger and much less stealthy

you could walk in a dense jungle and it couldn't follow you due to its sheer size

[native rune]

What are strains

[silver current]

Note about there speed, there incredibly fast and outrun pretty much anything

[silver current]

Strains are genetically-enhanced dinosaurs, designed to be deadly p much

[native rune]

They plan on adding those puppy’s in the isle?

[modern rover]

yes

[silver current]

yes but they most certainly not be viable/playable to other players

[native rune]

In the future of the isle what are the Humans role in the isle to capture things and kill dinos

[modern rover]

there's hyper, which has enhanced physical stats, massive size and regeneration, neuro, which can make EMPs and use its mind to mess with perception, tissos, which USED to be stealthy and camouflage, but are being reworked

[modern rover]

humans likely wont have the objective of killing dinos

[native rune]

What will there objective be

[modern rover]

repair bases around the island, survive as far as we know atm

[silver current]

Hypos should be the last thing they needa implement, there sterile fast metabolism speedy genetic tempering territorial creatures

they arent even ''Dinosaurs''

[modern rover]

killing dinos is more of a self-defence thing

[native rune]

So the humans will be a role play type of thing

[modern rover]

no

but killing dinos isn't their core goal

[native rune]

Will they be able to capture players

[silver current]

humans are divided into two categories, generation 2 (used to be mercenaries) then tribal or cannibal

[native rune]

Or those those ugly tall creatures the cannibal

[silver current]

yes but not to be confused with the eyeless

[native rune]

Do you have a picture?

[stoic ridge]

or it could just knock down the trees lmao

[modern rover]

no

[silver current]

look up ''eyeless the isle'' and youll see pictures

[silver current]

Maybe but know that hypos arent gonna be viable to players, like at all.

[native rune]

What do you think these guys will be able to do to other dinos

[stoic ridge]

ik it was a bit of a joke. would be kinda dope

[silver current]

get eaten

[stoic ridge]

good thing it cant be handed out to players. otherwise the game would be mayhem

[silver current]

if hypos were viable to players, evrima would get detsroyed

there scary little meat missiles

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know much on Eyeless

besides that they're fast and could climb really well

[strange shell]

Also according to old, old concept arts one eyeless is a match for a carno

[strange shell]

Also neuros can summon the might of Thor, the god of Thunder to call down lightning and smite their foes
It's a very important part of their (absolutely explainable by science) abilities

[acoustic osprey]

That's unofficial from Tap

[icy onyx]

Imagine you see this as a human in the night when you turn up the Light

[acoustic osprey]

Light

[icy onyx]

What? U want me to call it X??

[acoustic osprey]

Light claw

[worn rapids]

So the mercenaries are not real mercenaries they’re mutants?

And the tribals aren’t real tribals either?

[icy onyx]

they are both versions of artificial humans if i remember correctly

[tribal breach]

control them and make them as allies. maybe

or even worse is to lay eggs on dinos

i think i went far with my thinking

[worn rapids]

How do we know?

And aren’t mercs supposed to do like missions and stuff with helicopters and guns?

[icy onyx]

i don’t have any direct quotes or anything but what i do have is that they are referred to now as Gen1 and Gen2 as in the two generations of humans produced

Gen1 being imperfect versions and Gen2 being closer

[silver current]

Well it depends, but there not mutants. Tribals are by far the least thing from an actual tribal (mostly seen as a cannibal)

[modern rover]

they arent mercs anymore

[acoustic gull]

If they can't capture dinos..then why are the devs creating traps for the dinos?

[pale marsh]

Environmental design
They exist to look cool

And lore. but no trapping gameplay

[acoustic gull]

Darn...I thought that would be awesome. It'll be like your a packy and be eating and then BAM!!!! trapped outta no where. Then the trap sends like a signal letting the humans know that your trapped. Then they come and pick you up and take you back to their facilities. Or kill you on the spot lol. But there would be a way to escape the trap obviously like bashing against the cage to break the door

[pale marsh]

Devs are hard against anything like that in game

[strange shell]

That would be awfully terrible

[pale marsh]

Most you'll get is like
Wait for an Omni to walk in the cage
And stand in front of it as a trike and just stand there

[strange shell]

Oh you like playing games ? What about you watch and do nothing for 30 minutes instead ?

[acoustic gull]

I just thought that it would be cool is all

But if they are for environmental design, then that's fine too...I honestly thought they had a purpose

[swift echo]

what are tap's pronouns

[strange shell]

she

[swift echo]

okay ty

[icy onyx]

the most in depth lore the isle can offer

lol

[swift echo]

why are you right 💀

[icy onyx]

i just am

[acoustic osprey]

No
Tribals are mutants, and genetically created
Humans are genetically created humans, basically the better version of Tribals and more human like

[acoustic osprey]

Traps bad

[acoustic gull]

👍 Roger that....traps bad

Tho it woulda been cool. But...that's just me I guess

[acoustic osprey]

They're great for an idea

But imagine being trapped in one

Sounds like I have claustrophobia. But it'd never work as a proper system without being heavily annoying

[acoustic gull]

True true. It would be annoying now that I think about it 🤔. I guess I got a vivid imagination and I was seeing it so differently lol xd. But you are right. Totally annoying. It would hurt gameplay

[pale marsh]

Cool on paper. Horrid in execution

[swift echo]

what are specimens b-443 and b-442?

(asking this for the 2nd time as the 1st was inconclusive)

[lethal moat]

It may be a place

[swift echo]

they died in operation inferno, old lore buttttt I still wanna know

ill wait until lightclaw (X AE A-XII or elon's child w that crazy username I dont got the time to type out) becomes active cause their the lore specialist (its like 11:30 in their country)

[acoustic osprey]

as per Iris said
Cool on paper, very hard to make it proper (in a multiplayer scenario)

[acoustic osprey]

B-443 and B-442 were Magna specimens

[swift echo]

i knew it ty

[acoustic osprey]

B-443 was Big daddy, iirc

442 was Magna raptor

[swift echo]

allfather?

ah mk

[acoustic osprey]

yes and no
No clear answer iirc

but Big Daddy was the Magna Rex in PCE

(the rex you can play as)

Died, alongside with 442

[swift echo]

ya and then the isle and primal carnage got divorced so

[acoustic osprey]

Yes
Nothing relevant anymore

[swift echo]

they actually used to be married (real)

[acoustic osprey]

^

Real

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-alec-guinness-obi-wan-kenobi-serious-think-gif-5199304

a bygone era now

[acoustic osprey]

(in Op. Phoenix)

[swift echo]

phoenix?

[acoustic osprey]

I wonder if we'll ever see a "Operation Phoenix" again

[swift echo]

never heard of THAT before

[acoustic osprey]

Inferno
sorry

thinking of Phoenix Int./Corp

[swift echo]

ive heard of inferno but phoenix?

[acoustic osprey]

not Op Phoenix
Doesn't exist

[swift echo]

oh ok

[acoustic osprey]

Op Inferno

But I do wonder if we'll ever get Op. Inferno again

just rehashed into a new company

[swift echo]

hopefully

[acoustic osprey]

or, maybe, there wont be a strong opposing company

[swift echo]

it was a really cool concept

[acoustic osprey]

Which, if they do so, I hope it's done well. Something different isn't always bad

[swift echo]

ingen vs...

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[swift echo]

yknow what we need in the isle as new lore

ultimasaurus.

[acoustic osprey]

if so, I kinda hope it's just background knowledge and nothing important
A bit cliche and overdone having an angry opposing company

sure, this is a medicinal company in a capitalist world (so opposing medicinal companies will exist). But honestly, just turn AE into Microsoft

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/anonymiss-no-face-anonymity-gif-14784709

[swift echo]

i mean we did get those facility interior leaks so...

kinda fits.

[acoustic osprey]

fits?

[swift echo]

AE = Microsoft but evil

[acoustic osprey]

Ah

AE aren't evil
They're just another "company"

just in the morally grey.

[swift echo]

'company' Dondi is literally thinking of the most devious storylines u cant lie

[acoustic osprey]

AE = Microsoft but with a giant team of ethical lawyers

[swift echo]

fr

[swift echo]

okay u got the evidence ill stick with my amazon but with dinosaurs theory 😿

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-throat-grab-norman-osborn-spiderman-gif-25570986

[swift echo]

malusaurus

[pale marsh]

Idk big company = evil to me cuz muh capitalism r bad
But AE isnt cartoonishly evil

[zinc marsh]

To me they feel like the scp foundation, or someone that seems unethical or morally wrong but is for the greater good, something you don’t want but getting rid of would be a bad thing, or like an anti hero

[pale marsh]

Scp foundation type thing
Wouldn't be bad
Highly morally questionable
But still somewhat better than the alternatives

[swift echo]

exactly

[worn rapids]

So what would be their “gene modifications” then? And do the mercenaries still work for the company?

[acoustic osprey]

No Mercenaries

They're "Greek Gods" to a sense in their build

Basically "perfect idolised humans"

created by Apollo Engineering

[acoustic osprey]

more so morally in loop holes
Grey. In the middle.

Less so for the greater good, a facade on that part, and more so on their ego as a very "God"-like company ||as per their ability to create new life||

[maiden sundial]

I mean their apparent goal is to make better humans.

[acoustic osprey]

perfect humans

[maiden sundial]

Haven't achieved perfection yet. Just a failed or batches and a better human

[acoustic osprey]

No, that's more so Tribals

we know Gen2s are perfected to their greatest might (as Greek God-esque)

[maiden sundial]

Dondi said they were better. Not necessarily perfected.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/beared-dragon-lizard-fidget-spinner-spinner-gif-15617519

maybe he did
maybe he didn't

[maiden sundial]

Fair. But still I think that there is more to perfect.

[acoustic osprey]

but the statement of having all the required or desirable elements, qualities, or characteristics.

Especially with little to no comparison you could compare them to, besides the Greek God physique.
They are, more or less, perfect

[maiden sundial]

True. But why have your species perfected be used as science interns basically

[acoustic osprey]

We have zero idea on what and why AE are doing everything

literally
Why create humans to send? Perfect or not?
Why have dinosaurs?
Why really play on the ethical border for everything?

Who knows

[maiden sundial]

I mean to quote cave johnson "science isn't about the why. It's about the why not"

[acoustic osprey]

(you still need intentions and properly play within the law. Unless your company isn't, which also needs a good amount of how they do such a thing)

A company going against ethical laws still has tons of employees

Those employees, unless AE was an evil mob family, will go home to their houses

And, despite an NDA, if your company is committing really unethical practices against the law
It's very hard to stop such things being hidden and not told

[maiden sundial]

I mean true. But likely the unethical stuff is a pet project of some sort

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/aa5385dc9d692b848681212092127553

If this is about Tribals
Employees already know they're creating humans

[maiden sundial]

They could be paying off people to not tell

[acoustic osprey]

hi, we're the inspection team

[maiden sundial]

I mean. Whoever is capable of producing things like neuros Tissos and hypers got to have a lot of dough

[acoustic osprey]

If it's a case of just comical corruption

[maiden sundial]

It likely is.

[acoustic osprey]

I would like to see such cases more honestly

if 291 is an actual human they just "exterminated"
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1072247114043760640/Summary-E2911.png

who suffered a "cardiac arrest"

" "

It's a shame we likely wont hear about 291 directly
but I do hope Don, somehow, can implement allusions to such events

[maiden sundial]

Oh yea that's definitely a cover up.

[acoustic osprey]

It depends

If he's a Tribal
He likely found a way out of his designation "pen" and just ran

till he couldn't

just
how?

https://gyazo.com/12ed60c7f4802bb8a7459b2c03d81b5e

I would like to see the autopsy report

[maiden sundial]

2. He's an employee they had to ice because they saw too much.

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, give the gore in it as well.
Funny horror game with "horror" papers

[maiden sundial]

3. He actually died of a heart attack

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, he was navigating the Glance Reference General Site designations sheet

So, he has some sort of brain and idea of situation

So either he was just a human (employee) who saw too much

||and tried to contact someone using Olympus Transmitter||

[maiden sundial]

Or he just got a heart attack

[acoustic osprey]

or Tribals are actually smart enough to use pencils and write things

[acoustic osprey]

well, he likely did.
Just the cause is very " "

[maiden sundial]

True. Probably due to seeing a horror beyond human comprehension.

[acoustic osprey]

as a cardiac arrest can really happen at any time

[maiden sundial]

Maybe got jumpscared by a tisso

[maiden sundial]

If we get anything with the word cratus. It is likely a bodyguard of the transmitter.

[acoustic osprey]

he was the body guard of Zeus right?

[maiden sundial]

One of em. As well as the Greek God of strength.

[acoustic osprey]

less so God, more so personification. Is what I read from ages back?

[maiden sundial]

Nike. Bia. And Zelus would also be candidates

[acoustic osprey]

did Hermes have someone akin to such? It'd be much more fitting for Olympus Transmitter

if 291 went to Olympus Central, it'd make more sense for Cratus to exist

[maiden sundial]

And if it does. It could be that 291 became Cratus.

[acoustic osprey]

although a personified version of Cratus, a bit of a John Wick character, that would do such a thing would be pretty interesting

Although I'm thinking more of Eyeless here

Just have to forget
AE aren't just pure bad guys here

They wouldn't just "Mafia" 291 out of existence and into some sort of mindless robocop

[maiden sundial]

The eyeless are likely very smart cuz hive mind + linked to echidna

[acoustic osprey]

I'd presume they'd be more of the specialised bodyguard to Echidna/Replicator

depending on how they're obtained

[maiden sundial]

True

Anyway I'm gonna go sleeb cuz I'm eepy.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-guards-star-wars-gif-9904313

[acoustic osprey]

ciao

[maiden sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/sleepy-kitty-sleepy-head-cat-cute-gif-14555207

[zinc marsh]

I do wanna see more of the reports similar to 291 these things seem to be one of the most interesting parts of the lore and hopefully we eventually get to finally see behind the curtain of ae lore

[acoustic osprey]

we know we'll likely see more, if not on the Discord then in-game (hopefully)

but, sadly, we won't get reoccurring ones on the same character

at least, we know it won't be a priority

[zinc marsh]

I meant similar types of reports showing Apollos side of things, I know it’ll probably take a long time but this game has the type of lore where it’s almost never enough and you always want to just understand, just get one small glimpse of what’s going on outside our view

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[zinc marsh]

This games lore is just so much fun to dig into

[acoustic osprey]

excluding the glance sheets
we'll see more incident reports- or there are already more incident reports that exist/will exist

[zinc marsh]

Yeah

[pale marsh]

depends on the nature of the hive mind really

[strange shell]

I would say the opposite, in a hive mind individuals tend to be very stupid

[pale marsh]

Irl hive minds yes
Sci Fi hive minds
It depends

Eyeless echidna would probably be more like irl swarm intelligence (the actual scientific term for hive mind)
In that their all kinda useless on their own and all obey a queen

[strange shell]

idk, the eyeless don't really strike me as parts of a hive mind

They more seem like individual predators

[pale marsh]

I can kinda see echidna communicating and manipulating eyeless
But not much more beyond that

[acoustic osprey]

I mean.
We only have so much to go off

but we have, barely, learnt about the lifestyle and behaviour of Tribals (including Eyeless)

besides that they're very "tribalistic" in nature and worship the Replicator

[hollow anchor]

The humans made the dinosaurs as an experiment and put chips in their brains to try and control them, however the experiment went wrong which explains the front cover for the Utah eating the human . The dinosaurs wiped out the entirety of the human population on the island

[worn rapids]

Personally, I think AE revived dinosaurs just because “we can, look at us, we brought back dinosaurs” but later realized “these animals are a threat, we can use them to experiment and nobody will care”

[acoustic gull]

I think both. The dinos are being controlled (trying to be) and experimented on.

Cause I believe the experiments are being conducted for medical reasons I think. Also, they are trying to create the perfect being / creature. But why go so far?

"You are being conditioned, you are being controlled."

Also. IGP made a vid of the isle years ago. And message popped up on his screen mid game. With it being as old as it is I don't think that it's still apart of the lore but the message read something like this. "Death is the only path to freedom. 1000 lives is what you owe Apollo."

[acoustic osprey]

(Any vid from years ago is from old lore)

[acoustic osprey]

Likely connected with their large god complex and tie in's to everything Greek Mythos

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-gif-21772335

[swift echo]

"Only through death will you be free of this place. One thousand lives. That's what you owe Apollo."

[acoustic gull]

Yeah!!! That's it

[swift echo]

the way I've watched that video so many times trying to decode it

[acoustic gull]

Maybe....just maybe..."Only through death will you be free of this place."...You have to kill. You have no choice. "1000 lives. That's what you owe Apollo." Since we the dinos were created by Apollo. Maybe we have to kill 1000 players?

[swift echo]

my theory, as well as the most popular ones iirc, is that "Only through death will you be free of this place" means that dying breaks the loop of your human conciousness being inserted into the flesh and body of a replicated dinosaur, and "1000 lives. That's what you owe Apollo." is that you've died that many times, and you've used 1000 dinosaur corpses to have another shot at life with your human conciousness, as the dinosaurs were created by Apollo.

[acoustic gull]

Ooooo!!!! Yeah. I'll go with that one. That's more vaild than my theory tbh. Plus that makes the most sense. And coincides with lore

[acoustic osprey]

(Thousand Life Contract)

[swift echo]

the title of that theory, yes

[acoustic osprey]

No, the song

[swift echo]

huh

[acoustic osprey]

which this is in relation to the song
But, basically, from this. You can basically guess that you owe AE your death 1000 times

Through EIPs

[swift echo]

ye

[acoustic osprey]

I still wonder if this old Olympus tweet has any relevance
if it's the same Gateway as the map

DO NOT PASS GATEWAY. DO NOT ANSWER THE CALL.

[swift echo]

remember jack horner's build a dinosaur

what if AE started like that, as a project but grew into a company

[acoustic gull]

Yes!!! I remember that!

What if we were never supposed to go to gateway? But we did anyway.

Via transportation by the humans hence why the new map is called Gateway

Maybe someone was warning us to stay away. Maybe there is something on that island that we are not supposed to know about. Maybe someone from within the company Apollo was able to get that message to us cause they don't like Apollo?

I know it might seem like I'm talking nonsense but it's all I got atm

[strange shell]

Ben is in Gateway

[acoustic gull]

Ok. So I'm kinda late to the party. Who's Ben?

I'm playing catch up on the lore

I'm not ashamed to admit that I don't know as much as yall do

[strange shell]

Deepest Isle lore

She is the one we do not talk about

[acoustic gull]

Ok...so she's a BIG NOPE

[strange shell]

exactly

[worn rapids]

What are EIPs again?

Isn’t it like your steam profile or something?

[strange shell]

This is one of the very few images of her that exist
Consider yourself lucky to still be alive after seeing that

(It's an unofficial fanart, now onto true Ben's lore)

Basically this is where it all started
Originally Ben was just a meme in which someone (I don't remember who) photoshopped dilo to remove its neck and tail
It got very popular, to the point it became viral.
And then we got this message from Dondi
So... Ben
Probably a failed experiment or some ungodly horror, that is now part of The Isle's lore.

[acoustic gull]

Oookkkaayyy!!!!!! Yeah! I remember her now. Ok. Dude!!! I'm starting to understand everything now. It's like the pieces of the puzzle are starting to come together

[worn rapids]

I still have no clue of the entire lore.

[strange shell]

AE makes (or finds) big machine called Replicator.
AE asks Replicator to make dinos.
Replicator makes dinos.
Replicator also makes mutants.
[REDACTED] happens.
The Isle is now overrun with mutant dinos, mutant people and mutant mutants.

[worn rapids]

Okay

Who made the replicator?

[strange shell]

We don't know

[worn rapids]

And how did everything get so specific to make all these different mutant humans and dinosaurs?

[strange shell]

Possibly AE

[worn rapids]

Why would they ask for dinosaurs if just to use it for medicine?

[strange shell]

Again, we don't know

It may have something to do with legality or ethics

But I personnally find that to be quite a weak excuse

[swift echo]

quit trolling

[worn rapids]

Okay what are EIPs?

[strange shell]

Uh idk what EIP stands for

[acoustic gull]

Embryo Intelligence Profile

[worn rapids]

What do they have to do with the lore and your steam profile?

[acoustic gull]

Basically it's your Steam ID number that AE now has so they can create your Isle profile or something like that

Only one person in world has a complete profile

[worn rapids]

And the thousand deaths thing, do people like have their consciousness in dinosaurs?

[acoustic gull]

But I was told that was old lore and not Canon anymore

[worn rapids]

Who was it?

[acoustic gull]

Yeppers

[worn rapids]

How does that work?

[acoustic gull]

Someone named Corn or Crow? I think. I'll double check

[acoustic gull]

Ok bear with me rq. This is about to be a long one

[worn rapids]

I’m here for another hour to hear it all.

[acoustic gull]

So I think AE...or the people that created the Isle have access to see your Steam ID when you buy/play the game. The more you play the more your profile builds. They are able to see who like playing as herbi and who likes playing as carni. From there they can create you a profile or EIP for the game. They have your profile but you'll never see it. Think of it ad like the matrix. That how they control you and condition you so to speak. The isle is it's own universe and you are literally apart of the lore itself. So everytime you grow and due. AE knows about it irl just like how Microsoft knows who's #1 in the world for cod. We are limited to how many dinos we play in Evrima but that's because AE hasn't transported the dinos from thier facilities to Spiro and GateWay. I think that the devs have completed the game. But only update when it's time to update to coinencide with lore in the Isle Unverse. Think of it as we live in our universe but at the same time. Things are happening in the Isle Universe as well. So it's like the matrix in a way. That's my thoughts on it.

[worn rapids]

Damn.

And so you need to die a thousand times?

[acoustic gull]

Either die a thousand times or kill 1000 players

Look up MeatyLock and retrocat on yt. They talk about most of the isle lore. And one of them mentions about the one person that has a complete profile

The canon lore from legacy talked about Evrima and Spiro before evrima was a thing

Oh..and Gateway

[worn rapids]

Gotta love generic dinosaur game having hours worth of deep lore to unveil.

There has to be an “isle gameplay vs isle lore” edit

[acoustic gull]

Facts

[acoustic gull]

The most I found was from the Isle Lore docs further up this page. And people on yt decoding messages and piecing together the lore

[worn rapids]

I’ve seen the docs and the weird papers.

But I need like a full timeline piece together, because there so much.

[acoustic gull]

Oh...yeah...I haven't found that yet..sadly

I need it too tbh

I can say that someone asked Dondi about a peice of the lore. And Dondi said that you need and I quote "Alot Aloot Alloootttt of groundwork to cover just to figure that piece of the lore out"

[worn rapids]

Is the Olympus transmitter the replicator?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1056784575541555220/Untitled.png

[acoustic gull]

Um. Tbh. Im not too sure. Me personally I don't think so. I think the Olypus Transmitter is used to send our consciousness into the dinos. The way I think of it is that our consciousness is on a chip in a machine. The dinos that were created have a chip in the brain and no consciousness. The Transmitter connects us to the dino allowing us the become said dino. Kinda like Avatar when they went to the machine and got uploaded into the big blue alien bodies

Going that route coincides with lore with the EIPs

Since the EIPs are used to keep track of our "progress"

[rapid chasm]

No because Olympus is a radio tower

[acoustic gull]

Yeah..so the Olypus Transmitter is not the Replicator?

If so. Then my theory is pretty much on track then?

[swift echo]

do we have an archive of the Olympus Transmitter's tweets?

[long onyx]

there used to be a channel for it

but theyve deleted it

[zinc marsh]

Tbh this games probably got some of the most awesome and in depth lore out there, it literally breaks the 4th wall better than any other game ever. I’ve now accepted that all of us are just experiments to AE

[lofty flicker]

Where do I begin for the Lore

[swift echo]

Try this, then ask around here. https://docs.google.com/document/d/102ETakYa1vH0VHC9hs_i_kSuum9aVcuH0G4_CobBPr8/edit

it's a bit confusing, but once you get in-depth, it's largely more easier to read/understand

Also, is Codename Hades the Hyper carno? Or is that Experiment Hades?

[acoustic gull]

Facts 💯

[zinc marsh]

I had to try to explain the lore to my friend who might be getting the game

I have hired a new intern

[sly merlin]

Ok guys look tbh lore is just lore

[acoustic osprey]

Less this and more mine

As per that's an archive of old and new lore

[acoustic osprey]

"in depth"

[sly merlin]

[lethal moat]

In depth in the way the universe is in depth, there is 99.99999% we don't know and that scares us. 🙂

[strange shell]

The game with a lore that breaks the 4th wall the best imo is Inscryption

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-true-smoke-gif-23157983

[tender ingot]

What

[acoustic osprey]

Hades Protocol
Also reference in Utahraptor one, although "Type-H ######" might've referred to Type-H Carnotaurus

Not sure.

But it likely did have some link
Code Hades and Hades Protocol (Phase 6, iirc?)

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376>

pretty sure this isn't Isle Lore

[woeful chasm]

I think they are working getting that cleaned out from multiple places

[acoustic osprey]

of course

Just saw it getting posted here, how dare they

[frigid dragon]

Blame the hacker

[stone crater]

Iirc that was “Project Hades”

[acoustic osprey]

Project Hades referred to Code Hades
Which referred to Hyper Carno

[stone crater]

Huh neat

[lethal moat]

So are we sure tartarus is either a place or an experiment

[strange shell]

The month of June is closing in
Can't wait for the massive lore drop we'll be getting

[acoustic osprey]

No

We just know it's a place or thing

As Don referred to Gateway as the gateway to Tartarus

Which the name Tartarus, hopefully, plays more into the indication of what it is in the Isle

[maiden sundial]

Well we know what tartarus is

At least in the mythos

Where the gods held the titans that fought them in the titanomachy

Also wouldn't that mean that gateway has a defense system?

Since the gates of Tartarus were guarded by two hecatonkeries

[acoustic osprey]

That's not the point

*We know what Apollo is *
But that doesn't mean we know what Apollo Engineering is

Besides the links with Medicine

As then it should be Asclepius Engineering

if we're playing true to naming schemes in a literal sense

And to say it'll stay true to Greek mythos is likely a no no
And hopefully a no no

Having a story with heavy links and parallels to Greek Mythos (or any mythos/legend/story) can make it hard for your story to be interesting and unique (aka. Don's story/lore)

Being 100% true to an inspired mythos is boring and limiting

And, this is a company (AE), they don't need to stay true to anything

It's a company that links it's "Godplex" with Greek Mythos

[maiden sundial]

I know I'm just thinking. Would a company with a god complex that references greek mythology not have a defense system on gateway called hecatonkeries.

I would sure do that

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, the question is would they need a proper defence system

If they're a company creating medicinal needs
They would be protected by insurance and law

unless, they're going "low-end" neutral and doing some shady business that they'd need to conceal

[maiden sundial]

Considering that this place seems important to lore. Considering it's huge amounts of aviaries. And the gigantic hexagon.

[acoustic osprey]

WHICH could be Tartarus

to which I'm considering Tartarus less a prison, and more a facility/factory

but, like actual Tartarus, deep underground (in a realistic sense)

[acoustic osprey]

Doesn't mean anything

insurance and the law

and they have guns

if another company want's to "steal" from them
There is more than just weaponry they can use

they have monitoring systems
Multiple islands to relay any information

[maiden sundial]

If tartarus is an underground production facility. That would be the replicator's location right?

[acoustic osprey]

probably

or the place Strains are made/done in

[maiden sundial]

And who worships and protects the replicator?

[acoustic osprey]

it would take one hell an infiltration from an opposing company to do it successfully

[strange shell]

I do

[acoustic osprey]

Tribals
To which they are rewarded for sacrificing things to her

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/anonymiss-no-face-anonymity-gif-14784709

[maiden sundial]

And when sacrificing themselves they become eyeless right?

[acoustic osprey]

no, not themselves

[maiden sundial]

Or any of the other strains

[acoustic osprey]

from what we know, they sacrifice other things

[maiden sundial]

Ah.

WAIT.

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[maiden sundial]

If the tribals protect the replicator. And the replicator is in tartarus. They could be the hecatonkeries

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[maiden sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-its-all-coming-together-gif-15058130

[lethal moat]

Are tribals cannibals or are they seperate playables?

[strange shell]

Depends on what you mean by "cannibals"
If you mean the eyeless, they are an evolved form of tribals

[lethal moat]

Alright, noted

[cunning tapir]

so uh, do you think its possible that the isles story will be somewhat like dantes inferno? iknow this is random but its a thought

[acoustic osprey]

no, not really

[cunning tapir]

okie dokie

[acoustic osprey]

but, I mean, there could be a possible storyline of a character (eg. ERRANT-291) like that

[cunning tapir]

yeah idk, it was just a random thought, i feel like a dantes inferno type beat could work like that

[vagrant jasper]

Na that’s halo ODST

[tulip summit]

Guys whats the ae thing on the title screen

On the menu

And i think its also on the character tab

[sonic rampart]

AE stands for Apollo Engineering, the creators of the dinos

[tulip summit]

Ohh thx

So ive been seeing people talk about the replicator

So what is it really

[strange shell]

Replicator is a sentient machine that creates the dinos, and also mutants
She is venerated by the tribals, which are her creations

[outer verge]

We dont exactly know.

[short falcon]

I have a theory, this game has lore

[strange shell]

This is a pretty interesting theory

[modern rover]

stupid ass theory get this guy out of here

[strange shell]

There are no good or bad theories. Just theories. (kung fu panda music plays)

Except dinosaurs as military projects. This is a bad theory.

[modern rover]

me deploying my awesome biologically modified T-Rex only to realise that the enemy's multi-million drone project can immediately obliterate it, their tanks can kill it with armour piercing rounds, defend from their bites and outspeed it, their vehicles are too fast for it, and it's going to starve within the hour regardless

[icy onyx]

i hope the replicator gives troodons rifles

It’s perfectly justified to give them assult machines

[acoustic osprey]

She is something.
An AI.
Sentient.
Is praised by Tribals

[acoustic osprey]

No, AE made Tribals
Eyeless might be Replicator's actual creations

[lethal moat]

[honest sierra]

The replicator isn't part of AE?

[zinc marsh]

No I think it’s just in their possession they didn’t make it

[acoustic osprey]

Either they made it or found it

But they did own it

But either answer which would a be big reveal.

[honest sierra]

Oh so it’s not a natural/alien structure?

It’s man-made?

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know

[honest sierra]

Ah ok

[strange shell]

It's a natural machine
Made with naturally-occuring copper wires, natural steel plating and powered with completely natural nuclear energy

[honest sierra]

I was asking in case it was a “magical” or “deity” made object, not natural in the literal sense

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know that!!!!!!

[strange shell]

Sorry
It's maybe a natural machine
Made with maybe naturally-occuring copper wires, amybe natural steel plating and powered maybe with completely natural nuclear energy

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-true-smoke-gif-23157983

[calm axle]

idk how a complicated machine would be naturally built

nuclear energy doesnt work like that either

[strange shell]

You lack imagination

[calm axle]

i mean a nuclear power which produces nuclear energy has to be careful of the core not overheating idk how a natural built machine can do that

[acoustic osprey]

You lack lore

you see the difference?!?!?!?!?!?!

[strange shell]

I do not lack lore, for I make my own lore

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-rowan-atkinson-shocked-surprised-omg-gif-4732484

[strange shell]

God made the world in 6 days
On the seventh day, he took a day off
On the eighth day, he got bored and made the Replicator including a natural power plant that naturally monitors its core temperature and prevents it from naturally exploding

[acoustic osprey]

on the 9th day, he made The Isle Lore for only Don's eyes to see

[strange shell]

Makes perfect sense

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[pale marsh]

No the reactor can't be a natural nuclear reactor cuz reactors use fission

But fusion is natural cuz stars
So if u specify a fusion reactor it's fine

[strange shell]

I ALWAYS implied it was a fusion reactor, of course...

The simple fact you could believe otherwise greatly offends me

[sour kettle]

I dont think fusion is possible naturally on a planet though

[calm axle]

fusion overheats right ?

[pale marsh]

Fusion requires ans expelles massive amounts of energy iirc
That is after All how stars work

[calm axle]

i asked if it overheats or not

[pale marsh]

Overheating requires a threshold for how much heat it can handle

So yea I guess
Depends entirely whats doing the fusion

[calm axle]

nuclear reactors usually overheat if there is no one watching it

there is some rods which you gotta insert in there so it doesnt overheat iirc

[lethal moat]

And on the 10th day, the stegos revolted

[swift echo]

holy he's built WAY the heck different

[native rune]

https://tenor.com/view/facts-brother-true-smoke-gif-23157983

[acoustic osprey]

thank you

[swift echo]

im drawing The Replicator give me refrences (I already have GLaDOS)

[hexed flax]

Scp-079. I don't think the replicator would see itself as a 3 dimensional being. Instead it would just show itself as a picture on a screen

[icy onyx]

guys i think the replicator is just a guy named todd who is really good at speculative biology

[acoustic osprey]

Black Box

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/a3860c47ce7c50da164159d6ffa0bb39

At least, there was a motif seen
the building version from xmas 2020
and the other from Olympus Transmitter years ago

[swift echo]

oh sh thank you

[lethal moat]

Camera in the center implies that replicator is electronic and can access the cameras

[acoustic osprey]

which camera

[lethal moat]

In the black and white photo

Dondi said the replicator is not without it's protectors

[acoustic osprey]

but where is the camera!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!

unless you're just referring to the actual camera taking the image

which it's technically a gif

[lethal moat]

Center of the circle, cannibals drew the art around it

[acoustic osprey]

we don't know if it's a camera, no?

[lethal moat]

It's a camera, dondi posted that alongside 'The replicator is not without it's protectors', and it is the same type of camera as the ones coming to the isle, i'll find a pic

[acoustic osprey]

looking at some old messages

general theory was that it was a CCTV Cam pointing down

on a wall

Around the "circle" motif shown in the "Evrima Version" and the old one

[lethal moat]

Yep

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/528782808534089757/camera_2.jpg

[lethal moat]

I think it's a camera

[acoustic osprey]

I can see it

but it's a shame we didn't get to see it in the xmas 2020 one

iirc, I remember a stream last year in Sept where Don referred to it once

[lethal moat]

So, is the replicator behind the doors dondi mentioned back during legacy then?

[acoustic osprey]

who knows

we never really got as much into such details sadly

[acoustic osprey]

Can someone, not worth a ping, repin this one from this one #isle-lore-theories message

[lethal moat]

My bet is that either replicator or olympus transmitter is at the end of the instuction

[acoustic osprey]

instuction?

[lethal moat]

lllrfl

Directions

[lethal moat]

leftleftleftrightforwardleft, whatever this guy was doing, he had a plan

[short falcon]

Zues entry, maybe air entry, hades entry could be from underground, Poseidon is an aquatic entrance

[acoustic osprey]

It just a has to be connectable to Olympus Central Control

I'm presuming less Zeus as air entry

likely just "higher altitude"
like mountainous

or seeing as it's marked as "A" and also is the highest point on the network graph, below Olympus CC, it might just be the main "entry"

being less mountainous and more just a general "main" entry point

where Hades could be the entry into CC from GUTS

and Poseidon being the entry into CC from the main dock

not to forget they're named "Entry"

so that'd entail them as not proper "eras" and more so just an entry
being in the name

[glacial moth]

i don't know if you guys noticed how the circles are arranged like the sephirot

this is just a general look

but maybe they have nothing todo with each other

[swift echo]

guys what does the Islandwalker's skull look like

[acoustic osprey]

Scroll down a little!!

[lethal moat]

Interesting observation, it says it's an abstract guide, not a map, but that is uncannily similar

[pale marsh]

I noticed that
But couldn't for the life remember what it was called :p

[acoustic osprey]

Tree of life

[acoustic osprey]

Akin to a network graph
Meaning it's technically a map, but with no coordinates, not to scale and likely not accurately depicted

[wise solstice]

Hmm...

[lethal moat]

Yep, thats a thing

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah it's a gen 2

[edgy pike]

John Cake Evrima is watching

[rapid chasm]

thats dondi

he's watching

dondi playable

[gentle vessel]

@acoustic osprey btw, do you have a screen of Don replying to chips question about tribals stuff?

[acoustic osprey]

On discord?

[gentle vessel]

ye

[acoustic osprey]

No

[gentle vessel]

Damn

[worn rapids]

Wait this is supposed to be in tartarus right?

What is tartaurus was a literal prison

hades, isn't that the codename for the hypo carno?

[lethal moat]

We assume tartarus is the facility where strains are being kept

[iron tree]

What's Beipia based off of i wonder

Like the aquatic parts

[lethal moat]

DUCK

[quartz obsidian]

Do u mean what animal?

A penguin then

[iron tree]

Yah what animal
But the thing is penquins aren't buoyant, and they dont swim on the surface of the water like water fowl

[lethal moat]

DUCK

[iron tree]

Or goose, something asshole-y

[lethal moat]

Swan

[iron tree]

They could potentially remove a man's arm, swans can

[lethal moat]

Knife Swan

[iron tree]

Beeping swan

[maiden sundial]

Either water or perhaps hesperonis

[sour fox]

The only way a swan could remove a man's arm was if it was holding a chainsaw. Luckily, they can't.

[lethal moat]

I beg to differ

[sour fox]

Best hand the PC back to your Ma or Pa before they find out you've been searching for birds on google search and get the wrong idea ;-))...

[sharp basin]

a swan can strike with it's wing with the enough force to brake an arm

[sharp basin]

also this is just nightmare fuel

thank you XD

[sour fox]

Oh! Come on. You seriously believe that? Stop recalling old wives tales from infants school.
A swan cannot break a mans arm with it's wing. It's an old wives tale. A fairy tale.
A swans wing is made of hollow bones. Strong, but designed lightweight for flight.
A mans arm is solid bone bar the very central section.
The only way a swan could conceivably break a mans arm is if that person suffered from brittle bone disease. and even then, I'd give the bloke a 75% chance they'd be just fine.

[maiden sundial]

Hate to be the actually kid. But they first evolved hollow bones for better air circulation.

[sour fox]

Like mammals, birds also use oxygen and breathe out carbon dioxide. They have special air sacs in addition to their lungs, with hollow bones that allow these gasses to flow around the body more easily. This means that one bird breath goes further and does more work than one mammal breath.
Like I said. For flight.

[maiden sundial]

Fair. I mean still don't mess with a goose. Or a swan. Swans have a rather nasty bite

[sour fox]

I'd certainly be cautious if I was skinny dipping in a water system and a swan came along ;-))...

[maiden sundial]

Or swimming period. They can cut you up

[sour fox]

Imagine if you're swimming and you think you're being fast, when a swan swims past and cuts you up. That would be annoying ;-))... Especially if the cops were not there to give them a ticket 8-))...

[maiden sundial]

Lol.

But anyway. I wouldn't be near a cassowary even if you paid me@sour fox

[sour fox]

True. Or an ostrich or emu. Though Humming birds don't frighten me.

[maiden sundial]

We know Æ starting somewhere in the 80s. That's about it.

[acoustic osprey]

Well no
Not exactly

That's an approximation from old lore

And with the 291 paper
We don't know

It might be 2172

[maiden sundial]

I'd imagine much further now.

[maiden sundial]

So either 80s or 2172@proven tartan

[lethal moat]

Somewhere betyween the beginning and the end is our best estimation.

[acoustic badger]

Im assuming there aliens in the game

Just locked up somewhere

[fast shard]

https://tenor.com/view/swan-attack-gif-21363778

[drowsy nova]

reminds me of the guy yeeting the alligator

https://tenor.com/view/gator-water-throw-yeet-lanney-gif-19299532

[loud pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/petting-aligator-crocodile-gif-25954785

[sterile fossil]

Yes

[native imp]

Hey people, we have an idea about what's errant-291? I'm a little confused

[strange shell]

@acoustic osprey That's a question for you

[muted cape]

There are no dinosaurs. Just SCP's.

[lethal moat]

I think it's a designation for either an asset or a containment

[lethal moat]

No, I am not on test servers

[dull warren]

I have a doubt, how do you play in test sever?

[lethal moat]

You sign up to be a stress tester when they look for them, and then you can test stuff after signing confidentiality forms and whatnot

[sonic rampart]

This channel is for discussing the Isle's lore

[dull warren]

where?

[lethal moat]

They send out an announcment maybe? You'll hear talk about it if they need steress testers

[onyx ingot]

i have a lure theory

so mabye there is humans that find a remote island and put a forcefeild around it and introduce dinosaurs to it not knowing the events that would happen then every update is the more species added to that island but the stress test is a test to see if that species should be viable

[shy rampart]

I dont think that stress tests are canon

[onyx ingot]

well its could be true

if was then that would be cool

[shy rampart]

Perhaps

But i think is just some non-canon thing

[onyx ingot]

in my opinion that would be cool

[acoustic osprey]

Current guess
Human (non gen 1, likely a spy? Or someone wanting to get out?)
Or gen 1 (tribal)

[barren wren]

why they even exist bruh

[maiden sundial]

He cannot share because they are highly classified bits of the lore.

[barren wren]

I know it makes me sadge

[maiden sundial]

What we do know is they are neurotenics and the matriarch(aka echidna) has a somewhat motherly bond with them.

[inland hound]

anyone remember feathered galli lore

im curious with this since showcase

its fun galli get more lore showcased than cannibals

lol

[native imp]

Thx, I thought it was some cannibal (and even in troodon idk why XD)

On the other hand, I just hope (as a good fangirl of The Isle) that they do something with the Hypo Colossus

[acoustic osprey]

No they weren't

[inland hound]

wheres the official lore of cannibals so

as i know is only theorys

[acoustic osprey]

No Evrima lore on them

Only old lore speculations and official artworks

[inland hound]

so?

what i say?

I say galli have more official lore showcase than cannibals

why this language use too many "y"

[swift echo]

yeah I need to write an article abt cannibals, anything about them that I dont know would be helpful

[acoustic osprey]

Ah, funny grammar

Thought you said Galli were showcased as cannibals lol

But as an FYI
Cannibals are not the original cannibals

They have no official name and are unofficially now called Eyeless

As Tribals are "cannibals" in nature

To avoid confusion

[acoustic osprey]

https://survive-the-isle.fandom.com/wiki/The_Eyeless

[lethal moat]

The only other thing we know is that they can switch between quadrapedal and bipedal stance

[acoustic osprey]

Well yes and no

That's a rough legacy idea for them

Heck, they may or may not even be able to climb trees

[swift echo]

oh I forgot that wiki existed

[acoustic osprey]

now you know!!

[swift echo]

yay

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[honest sierra]

Question for the lore nerds in here!
(Involves around gameplay)

So since apexes (like rex) won’t be on official servers does that mean apexes (like rex) are not officially canon for The Isles universe?

Does this also mean community servers are not tied into the story as much as officials are?

[acoustic osprey]

that's a very absurd theory/question

as we know Apexes (Trike and Rex) wont be on officials as there are no other proper Apexes in the game yet

[honest sierra]

It’s not really a theory of mine, just something that has been confusing me

[acoustic osprey]

it's only a temporary thing

the game, at the moment, has no proper "in-built lore"
What you see in-game does not properly represent Isle's final lore

so don't worry

nor don't worry about Isle's lore at the moment in it's representation in-game at the moment

[honest sierra]

Ah alright

Thank you

[twin rose]

Apollo Engineering

[acoustic osprey]

AE

[unborn atlas]

Æ

[fast folio]

Æ

[honest sierra]

Æ

[maiden sundial]

Æ

[raven tree]

Æ

[raven tree]

in 3029

theyre doing a stress test right now sooooo i dont know

[tribal elbow]

Æ

[tidal yarrow]

Probably like 1-3 weeks,usually doesnt take too long after the stress tests I think

[fickle ginkgo]

All the dinos have banana swings

just a theory

[hollow void]

all dinos are extinct and this whole game is some random kid's dream.
Just a theory

[dusky valley]

How do people become the colossus like do they eat infected Dino meat as a ritual and are they able to talk to humans aswell?

[hollow void]

if im right the AE do some wierd asf experiments by injecting the H to humans.

if ur curious there is some info here.
https://isle.fandom.com/wiki/Hyperendocrin_Colossus

those could change those because that is concept for legacy