isle-lore-theories

[icy onyx]

That’s why I think I may ah e been an inside job because of their work on human engineering and the creation of monsters maybe someone got scared and decided to sabotage the operation

[modern rover]

even an entire team with jackhammers would struggle to make that hole tho

[icy onyx]

Yea

[modern rover]

and that's such a weird way to sabotage

you'd have to use heavy duty machinery in a precise manner to make that hole

[icy onyx]

I ment more the big holes for that comment

[modern rover]

fair

the little hole is just so much more confusing

at least with the big hole, you can explain it with bigger force

explosions, super animal, etc

[icy onyx]

Do you have a picture I don’t remember the little one well

[modern rover]

i'll see if i can find it

[acoustic osprey]

They're all labelled, so you can guess so

Albeit, there are some areas with five fences and not enclosing anything

So gotta wait for the final product of Gateway

I hope not too maintain Hypers
More so made to contain anything

I'd imagine Hypers and other strains being kept in Tartarus

[icy onyx]

What does Tartarus refer too?

[acoustic osprey]

I recorded the hole
Think I took a picture and put it in isle discussion

[acoustic osprey]

Jail
Facility
Place

For Titans in Greek Mythos
Likely strains in isle lore

[icy onyx]

Neat thanks!

[acoustic osprey]

No worries

We know Gateway holds Tartarus

[icy onyx]

Now that’s something to look forward too!

[modern rover]

you reckon tarturus is contained under the island, accessible through GUTS? Because if that's the case, I'm even more interested in entering those tunnels

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

I believe so
I'm gonna paraphrase my own theory

But the diagram uses broken lines, which can indicate a change in altitude

Which it all goes down.
The bottom one could be Tartarus with three different off shoots

Maybe Hypers, Tissos and Neuros

[acoustic osprey]

Very true
To hope the monorail tracks will be walkable when Gateway comes

[icy onyx]

Man I can already picture the YouTube titles lol

[modern rover]

i mean, the big issue i have with this theory is how the hell do you get them OUT of Tarturus? Unless Tarturus also links to the domes, where they can get the animal out of the underground holding areas, seeing as a giant rotting mutant rex corpse is not really great in terms of space usage

[acoustic osprey]

Well, Gateway being unfinished
We look at the monorail concept art

Which had giant tunnels

But, Tartarus has to be somewhere
Unless Tartarus is a state of mind, which wouldn't make sense

[modern rover]

Even so, the difficulty of getting a hyper to really cooperate in that regard, or containing it on a train seems tough

A cargo elevator seems more functionally logical

[acoustic osprey]

Well, Rex's are taken by helicopters

I can imagine Hypers can be contained

[modern rover]

Also there comes the issue of neuros, who are basically near uncontainable. Imagine trying to move this thing around when it won't even let the train start

[acoustic osprey]

If Neuros are still emp contained

[modern rover]

the moment you put them near moving parts, they kinda just dont let it work

[icy onyx]

Is Tartarus a lab maybe?

[acoustic osprey]

I'm guessing facility

Of sorts

Rather than a jail

[icy onyx]

Where they store strains to then afflict a asset with them to research the effects?

[modern rover]

I'd imagine lab/facility/containment chamber. Kinda like an SCP site for dinosaurs

Kitted out with the tools to stop them from getting out

[acoustic osprey]

Could be where they make Neuros

[icy onyx]

True

[acoustic osprey]

Either way
How else would they be transported? Even if it isn't underground

I'm guessing Neuros, if they are still electrically linked, can only go EMP if awake

[icy onyx]

I imagine it would be a little too problematic to be storing hypos and other strains so I think they would more likely be storing the strains in more compact forms before “infecting” an asset to develop that strain

[bold crater]

Wonder what pre-creature strains are like. I imagine something like a vial of weird g o o. Maybe it comes from them strain plants we saw long ago....harvest from them n' such.

Or not.

[icy onyx]

The strains are likely bio engineered and the strain plants were probably early pre vertebrate testing

[bleak flint]

does gateway have a region number or smth

[acoustic osprey]

No

[bleak flint]

island number?

[acoustic osprey]

No

[autumn orbit]

Are humans on the isle to extract the dinosaurs? I saw some artwork of cages for the dinosaurs

[acoustic osprey]

More so Humans placed the dinosaurs there
and the humans we play made to survey the Dinos

[maiden sundial]

So we basically have zoologists studying the dinosaur ecosystem?

Interesting.

[acoustic osprey]

Less so zoology, I presume

Although, I'd guess still akin to learning the behaviour of the animals

[runic wharf]

what if its like jurassic park they made clones and they broke losse

[autumn orbit]

Well when you select your dino it says select "asset" or something like that. I'm guessing the dinos are probably test subjects for something?

What's the lore on the natives? It's so hard to find anything

[oblique surge]

Not natives they were made by AE

They’re believed to be a failed experiment while trying to make the “perfect human”
This is indicated by the fact that they’re called “Gen 1” while the humans we can play as are called “Gen 2”

[acoustic osprey]

All

[acoustic osprey]

If you're reading my document or searching recent things on this server, I will and others will refer to The "Natives" as The Tribals and Generation one (Gen 1)

[slow delta]

Thousand life contract
Thousand life cycles
After 15 cycles the human minds controlling the dinos became twisted

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-john-cleese-mr-praline-and-so-on-so-on-gif-4613775

[bold crater]

Kinda reminds me of hope in Dead By Daylight. The Entity would feed on your hope more and more until eventually, you were just a husk.

[acoustic osprey]

Also, don't refer to the transmissions!!

[slow delta]

Transmissions are the best part of the lore

[acoustic osprey]

Transmissions are gone and not lore anymore!

[regal locust]

Transmissions really were the best part of the lore.

[acoustic osprey]

No more

[slow delta]

They are lore to me!

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.tenor.com/mASbAu_znDUAAAAM/danny-devito-its-always-sunny.gif

[hexed flax]

Exactly the scene that appeared in my head when i read your text

[slow delta]

@hexed flax great minds think alike

It's why we made the lore doc together

[hexed flax]

😌

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-that-actually-is-pretty-funny-gif-24359405

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/c6ba9b5654a9b2b71d015919e3fbdf42
https://gyazo.com/e0c14e47e407c0950078984bf14a6825

Just placing these there just so I can refer back to them in the future

https://gyazo.com/66654dcaa868b55181779bae77017574

[runic shuttle]

huh, I didn't see the second one before o:

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, it's weird

Unnaturally broken

And I don't think "it's a placeholder"
because why would it be?

But, I guess we'll hopefully find out in the future

What can cause deliberate holes like that

[icy onyx]

anyone know what these blue lights are?

[strange shell]

It looks like the border of the map
Which has no lore implication so far

[rotund wraith]

any lore about the dinosaurs?

[strange shell]

They've been created by a company called Apollo Engineering, using a sentient machine called the Replicator
And they got strains which are heavily mutated versions with superpowers

[rotund wraith]

k thx

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know what The Replicator has made yet at the moment

[long onyx]

big gun

[acoustic osprey]

Bomb

[icy onyx]

I don't think the border need a lore implication tbh. Unless they do something with it like in game events where areas are blocked off at certain times and things in those zones happen

For example, if a player becomes a strain then a in game event can spawn where borders cover an certain area around them where they have to either try and break out or fail and die.

[acoustic osprey]

I agree

[acoustic osprey]

Especially since it's only there so Spiro doesn't feel MORE dead

[toxic zinc]

Like the big gate on gateway

[acoustic osprey]

https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/66654dcaa868b55181779bae77017574-jpg.jpg

[toxic zinc]

Ye

[echo shard]

Apexes, hypers

[acoustic osprey]

How so

[echo shard]

Big

[acoustic osprey]

I don't think an apex can make a deliberate hole that small

[echo shard]

Hyper stubbed it's toe and got angry and kicked it

[acoustic osprey]

Sure, this image I could imagine a Hyper doing it

[echo shard]

These two, maybe a smaller hyper? Are utah hypers canon or no, i can't remember.
Maybe even hyper carno, or a tribal/cannibal

[acoustic osprey]

Hyper Omni could not do that

Unless, somehow, they had a bomb

[echo shard]

[nocturne cosmos]

Honestly looks like something got body slammed onto it

[languid igloo]

How much power would a Hyper have to (and if its a hyper) break or tear that part of the wall down, it looks thick and robust most things probably wouldnt even make a dent in it, so mx question is. How strong are Hypers

[modern rover]

that wall is actually supposed to hold back hypers

which makes its destruction all the more concerning

[void apex]

Yeah you actually make a really good, and somewhat frightening point

[nocturne cosmos]

Nothing broke through that by the looks of it something got slammed down into it

The bars are hanging which they should be if some thing just slammed it’s way through

And for the others pics their really circle shaped for what you’d think would be a giant Dino attempting to smash through

Or that fence isn’t made of what I think it is

[edgy pike]

Bomb?

People adverse to Æ doing some inside job and causing chaos?

[nocturne cosmos]

Could be bomb but I would have though that would leave marks

Same with dinos

Though I guess the bomb marks could have been washed away

[modern rover]

I still think it's a big animal tbh

Doubt it's a bomb

[nocturne cosmos]

Are those meant to be wires or actual bars?

[modern rover]

They're long steel cables

[lavish acorn]

taco noise in the distance

[acoustic osprey]

Well, we don't know (for Evrima)

It's just the best bet

I'm guessing Colossus did the big one

But the small one? That feels actually concentrated

Like a small bomb

[rustic urchin]

hard to tell what the fence is for

but theres a good chance that the dinos werent exclusively kept in holding pens and labs and whatnot, but were rather "let loose" in a controlled area, like several miles of land fenced in, and let them live and act semi naturally

and if i were to have loose dinos and workers on the same island id want a big fence separating the two lol

something like this may be possible

but in gateway i dont think the fence fully circled anything

[acoustic osprey]

We have no idea

As there are some random/unfinished fence placements

Definately not one
More so two

AE being a "medicinal" bio-engineering company

With the humans we play as being created by AE, called Generation Two

Gen One being Tribals

[acoustic osprey]

If not, AE certainly don't care about the dinos in pens now.
They seem to be more happily observing and surveying them

But prior to "event"

Maybe

Maybe strains were only kept in Tartarus

[rustic urchin]

yea i dont think its a JP situation even when the island was running, there just doesnt seem to be a lot of evidence of containment areas

no paddocks, enclosures, nothing

im sure there were/will be some, but probably most of the dinos were "wild"

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[rustic urchin]

strains and other monster stuff in tartar sauce

[acoustic osprey]

I'm guessing more so fences to keep in AE buildings

But we need to see the final Gateway

As ST one is, more or less, very wacky with it's fence placements

If a mod sees this, can you pin this please

I should've asked gar ages ago

[grizzled mauve]

any theories about hypo deino?

[acoustic osprey]

None because hyper deino isn't confirmed yet

[grizzled mauve]

omg yes- that would be really cool to see

[ruby juniper]

hyper*

[grizzled mauve]

hyper sounds silly "uh oh, its a hyper t-rex! it drank too much sugar!!"

[ruby juniper]

hypo is way sillier

ah look its the lesser/worse rex

[grizzled mauve]

oh nooo its the lesser spino 😨

tbh.. both are silly

[ruby juniper]

could also mean underdeveloped

[grizzled mauve]

ruh roh raggy, is that an underdeveloped carno approching???

[ruby juniper]

when you only ate non diet AI

[grizzled mauve]

LOL i giggled

those random boars be hittin different

[ruby juniper]

anyways im going to continue my war against „hypo“ and this channel will be kept clean of fights about this because i don’t want to get assaulted by an angry lore friend

[grizzled mauve]

stay safe, remember its all in good fun

[acoustic osprey]

All strains are likely linked with medicine

Well, are

But for what reasons, we're unsure

[ruby juniper]

hyper*

[rustic nexus]

I still stand behind the fact that they’re trying to drive human evolution and make a perfect utopian for “immortal” humans

A sentient machine that can terraform islands? A strain that is immune to most blunt forces? Another one that I forgot what it can do but its very smart? Just seems to me like Æ is trying to save humanity or drive it forward

[acoustic osprey]

immortal, or a body to "opt-into"

[acoustic osprey]

Hyper, Neuro and Tisso

Hyper (Big and hungry)
Neuro (Smart and, maybe, electric man)
Tisso (Tissue? Camo? Stealth?)

[modern rover]

i see tisso as something that can modify itself, like an octopus, hence it's insanely adaptive camo

[acoustic osprey]

I hope for anything related with stealth

[modern rover]

honestly, i think going the octopus "I can mess with my own skin texture and colours and change my RNA" route is probably the coolest way it can take the idea

[rustic nexus]

Yea but then there is the question that why would they have gen 2 and 1 free roam the island (unless they’re not supposed to)

[acoustic osprey]

You tell me

anyway you put it, Gen 2s aren't Mercenaries

So you need an explanation why they'd be on them

[rustic nexus]

My brain is too much mush

[rustic nexus]

Thats

Actually very cool

I wonder if tissos would have accelerated healing to the point that they can recover lost limbs

[acoustic osprey]

don't want to make it OP

Oh but "Hunger"

[modern rover]

since we have hyper take the role of exceptionally physically capable, and neuro having an insane power of the mind, having a strain be more focused on the ability to grasp its own genetics as an octopus/cuttlefish does would mean it would instead possess the greatest level of adaptability.

I'd honestly argue it should have the least debilitating weakness, perhaps being smaller than its peers, but not dying of starvation or being a literal walking sack of liquid like hyper and neuro

[acoustic osprey]

I hope the dramatic hunger drain is only for Hypers

[modern rover]

i hope each strain has a unique weakness tbh

[acoustic osprey]

Neuro could be the pathetically weak one of the three

Tisso is i don't know

[modern rover]

tisso is small imho

[acoustic osprey]

Neuros are

At least were in Legacy

[rustic nexus]

I always had the idea in my mind that tisso would be the smallest but most resilient and unpredictable

[modern rover]

i honestly wouldn't mind if neuros were as big, but still weak

[rustic nexus]

Wasn’t neuro spino bigger?

[modern rover]

since, again, they're walking sacks of liquid

[acoustic osprey]

I swear it was smaller

[modern rover]

also im pretty sure neuros were bigger

by a small fraction

[acoustic osprey]

Hm, interesting

[rustic nexus]

Indeed

[rustic nexus]

I was reading this beforehand, and found this biotrace interesting

[acoustic osprey]

yes

It could be in reference to "bio-goo"

[rustic nexus]

??

What that

[acoustic osprey]

Neurotenic Bio-assets

[rustic nexus]

Ah

I was going to say something similar to that, like 291 had an identity and maybe the echidna took over its mind and completely removed it from 291

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

Although 291 was still able to refer to it's name

[acoustic osprey]

I am not bothered to ping a mod.
But if a mod sees this.
Please pin this message

[icy onyx]

w

w

[cinder atlas]

You're right.

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.tenor.com/mASbAu_znDUAAAAM/danny-devito-its-always-sunny.gif

[cinder atlas]

I never mind stuff like that. Just ask. Lol

[acoustic osprey]

Albeit, I completely forgot and I didn't want to bother at the time

But if anything like that pops up in the future.
I might make some sort of google doc or drive that contains all "Lore images" and get that pinned

Don't want the pinned message drowned with many images of text

[slow delta]

why are we pinning things that are in the phase three channel or in the lore documents?

just leave the compilation docs pinned

[acoustic osprey]

No

[acoustic osprey]

Because phase three is starting to get filled with Wip development images and videos

And I'm not bothered to scroll up and find it

And it's also spoilered

So anyone downloading it and posting it here immediately will be spoilered as well

Much more easier for me as my laptop and PC have a lot of files, alongside my phone. Seeing as I use this place a lot, having it in pinned messages is far more easier

[slow delta]

There is a limit to how many pinned messages there can be in a channel. The point of the docs is to compile large collections of lore pieces Instead of spamming individual pinned messages

I dont see how opening a google docs is slow or cumbersome for any device, its a super light platform and i use it often on my phone

[acoustic osprey]

Hence I said this @slow delta

Google docs are also very limited. You can't simply download "X" image

But we've only got those two images at the moment

So it doesn't really matter at the moment

And when it becomes a problem (next time lore drop)
I'll simply make a google drive or some place to store those images for easy download access

And this will only include the incident reports, such as the many Don has been talking about
If we ever get more

[slow delta]

A cloud drive repository would be useful but the docs help provide additional information like datea, context etc. Simply having an image isnt very helpful on its own lorewise

[acoustic osprey]

Information, yes

But downloading the images, especially for myself, a lot easier with a drive

Or something akin to it

[cinder atlas]

It really isn't a big deal. It's at like 6/50 pins.

[acoustic osprey]

One can only imagine what they'd put in these cages

[mystic rivet]

Maybe they were used to contain hypers

[acoustic osprey]

I'm guessing

[mystic rivet]

Yea it seems most likely

[acoustic osprey]

We do know Rex was travelled through Helicopter

So, why not other strains as well

[mystic rivet]

When did we know that

[acoustic osprey]

The question is, how heavy is a Hyper Rex? Guessing it'll be the heaviest of the bunch
Or Hyper Spino/Giga?

[mystic rivet]

I think hyper giga would be heaviest right?

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/7572c4f4e2412a83e1a6c7ca67a042ef

[mystic rivet]

Oh alr

[acoustic osprey]

One of the three.
I think Giga would make sense

[mystic rivet]

Does that mean hyper Rex or normal rex

[acoustic osprey]

@void apex What is the heaviest of the three? (In irl)

[acoustic osprey]

Just rex from the quote's context

[mystic rivet]

Oh alr

[acoustic osprey]

but
If you carry Rex on a Heli... one might ask what about Strains

[void apex]

The hypers? Or the regular animals?

[acoustic osprey]

IF needed

[mystic rivet]

So hypers I would think would be too heavy to be carried by heli

[acoustic osprey]

normal versions

[modern rover]

hyper spino would be imho, since its HUGE

[mystic rivet]

But idk how muhh vc heavier they r than normal

[void apex]

1. Rex
2. Giga
3. Spino

[mystic rivet]

Do u know how much heavier hypers were than there normal forms at an estimate

[acoustic osprey]

I believe all three were the same weight?

[acoustic osprey]

Hrex 20t

[mystic rivet]

And how much is Rex?

[acoustic osprey]

Normal Rex - 5.8t

[modern rover]

tbf, strains were very weirdly balanced in legacy

[mystic rivet]

Oh damn

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, and should be no proper indication of size and weight

[mystic rivet]

Yea I don’t think hypers would be carried by helis

Cuz that’s like 4X the weight of normal Rex

[modern rover]

ehh

[acoustic osprey]

Apparently the M-26 could lift up to 20t

[modern rover]

remember, in EVRIMA, rex is closer to 8-9 tons

[mystic rivet]

Maybe

[modern rover]

not 5.6

[mystic rivet]

Idk what kinda helis they have in evrima

[acoustic osprey]

I'm guessing AE could purchase/fund for a heavy duty Heli

[acoustic osprey]

Even so.
We still need the numbers

[mystic rivet]

Yea if they can create multiple life forms I would hope they can afford a heli

[acoustic osprey]

But yeah, we know Apexes will be more extreme compared to Legacy

[acoustic osprey]

lol pretty much

[mystic rivet]

They should be

[modern rover]

more weight, more attacks, more damage, more everything lol

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[mystic rivet]

That’s good

[acoustic osprey]

I'm guessing they wouldn't even need to carry the strains much anyways

[mystic rivet]

Hopefully longer growth times too

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[modern rover]

probably to counteract the fact that they can't rely on weight damage modifiers anymore

[mystic rivet]

Yea

[acoustic osprey]

High risk high reward playables!

[mystic rivet]

We need this

[modern rover]

then again, no more tail riding

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

especially with stuff like Brachi

[modern rover]

but in the same end, things have a LOT more ways to kill you

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[icy onyx]

I can imagine someone goes into a cage and lays down just to see glowing eyes inside the cage with them

[long onyx]

FREDDY

[acoustic osprey]

No

[long onyx]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/inglourious-basterds-christoph-waltz-hans-landa-thats-a-bingo-bingo-gif-5389920

[cinder shoal]

Plus, they could use multiple helicopters to carry it.

[ruby juniper]

why are the humans on the island again?

as far as we know ofc

[maiden sundial]

Iirc some like gen 2 are possibly the trial versions of the perfect human

[modern rover]

gen 2 are the perfected humans

gen 1 are the first batch, and very imperfect

[maiden sundial]

I see

[echo shard]

Cause why not

[pine mica]

why the click lmb isn't working?

for thrash

[echo shard]

Wrong channel

[pine mica]

where can i do it

[echo shard]

Try #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧

[pine mica]

thx

[echo shard]

Np

[rapid chasm]

these r slings

sling hooks

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

Interesting

I am no Heli-man

The most transportation I do is moving Motorbikes

Sadly, I don't own a Heli

But yeah, trying to notice good points you'd want to hook onto

(The image you sent)

ah yeah, practically all the cages have some sort of hook point

Hey, seeing as Don is talking again (more recently)
Maybe we'll get some information- preferably not just cages.

But any information is better than no information

Alas, we wait

[rapid chasm]

I assume that the troodon is half the size of a human

[acoustic osprey]

Roughly

[acoustic osprey]

Actually looking at it again

I say 3/5th of a human

Roughly

Troo is roughly head height with the cage
And the cage, roughly, seem to be a bit more than half the size of the rubbish container

(either way, doesn't matter)

[chrome acorn]

troodons a real gut buster huh

[acoustic osprey]

yes

A real gut puncher

[rapid chasm]

@acoustic osprey you know the uhh, sea king helicopters?

I believe that AE used them

[acoustic osprey]

Don't see why not

[rapid chasm]

they are the best helicopters to lift tons of weight

[toxic zinc]

Ohh Dino transportation

[nimble verge]

Could use a Chinook since it'd be for heavier dinosaurs

Up to around 25 tons

[acoustic osprey]

think that's in pounds

[nimble verge]

50,000 is in pounds

[acoustic osprey]

you sure?

thought it was roughly 26,000 pounds

I was under the impression the Russian (Soviet?) Mi-26 could hold the most

just below 40,000 pounds

[nimble verge]

CH-47 Chinook

Possibly gonna break the heli with a T-rex

[acoustic osprey]

We do know Rex is taken by Helis

[nimble verge]

Hypo is around 20 tons/40,000 pounds.

Hypo Rex

[acoustic osprey]

Hyper

[nimble verge]

They going to add vehicles for humans in the distant future?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[nimble verge]

The amount of roadkill is going to be crazy.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

if that's still the same

[nimble verge]

It might not be but its what I got off the out of date wiki

[acoustic osprey]

But, if AE is able to make Dinosaurs and perfect humans
I don't see why the rest of the world can't make a slightly better heli

But yeah, Don disregards the wiki anyways

[nimble verge]

Avatar moment

[acoustic osprey]

Not like it's purely inaccurate

but there are still major inaccuracies

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[nimble verge]

Its a game world where Giant naked Humanoid Dinosaur abominations exist so its in the realm of possibilities.

The size of a Rex >.>

[acoustic osprey]

yes

Albeit, it'd be interesting to see if AE was using a mi-26

[nimble verge]

It'd be cool if they had another map (Just a thought) around Permian Proto-mammals but that's a bit of a stretch since a majority of them look similar and its less in the realm of dinosaurs.

Like AE was specializing in more then Dinosaurs in the realm of Genetics

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

I'd presume more of the DLC/Modded side

[nimble verge]

Yep

[acoustic osprey]

But it depends

AE just making more and more prehistoric animals just needs a lot of justification

[nimble verge]

What is the current understanding of what AE does this for or is it a mystery still?

[acoustic osprey]

Bio-engineering Medicinal company

or Medicinal bio-engineering company

[nimble verge]

I'm surprised they didn't bring back Aurochs, Mammoths, and Cave bears before Dinosaurs.

[acoustic osprey]

90s

Dinosaurs are the new big thing!

[nimble verge]

Jurassic Park.

Crazy

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[nimble verge]

One day

There will be another big hit movie about a long dead group of creatures that'll ruin the worlds understanding and make them mainstream.

But before then, I shall sit here an enjoy.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[nimble verge]

I also wait for the day Cerato gets added to Evirma and gets a future announcement of a Hyperendocrin form but eh.

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

A Hyper Cera would be interesting

[nimble verge]

The Bipedal Croc

[acoustic osprey]

Hyper Bully!!

[nimble verge]

I wonder what all it'd get being a Hyper instead of larger size and thicker skin.

Maybe a robust Rhino horn

[acoustic osprey]

All Hypers should just relatively be the same
But design wise? Cerato

just giant horn

[nimble verge]

Omnihorn

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[nimble verge]

The narwhal of the isle

It'd be pretty busted since it'd just eat up everything including the rotten meat

Oh god.. Someone did it..

The Fabled Unicorn

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[mystic rivet]

casually uses

[acoustic osprey]

Very good

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1071727534431010866/damn_right.gif

[mystic rivet]

What lore r we talking about

[acoustic osprey]

Today we talk about the best part of lore

[mystic rivet]

What is it

[acoustic osprey]

Well it's

[mystic rivet]

My favourite

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[mystic rivet]

Lore lore lore lore lore lore lore

[acoustic osprey]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SecretQuickIberianmidwifetoad-mobile.mp4

[icy onyx]

ah not another tri-jaw hyper

[nimble verge]

I'm not a fan of another tri jaw but the unicorn is great

[strange shell]

Rule 1 : Every fanmade hyper must be a tri-jaw

[mystic rivet]

Someone pin this

[mystic rivet]

Very important

[acoustic osprey]

No

[mystic rivet]

Yes

[severe raft]

Maybe

[stone crater]

Clearly has three… some kinda three-horned face… wish there was a word for that

[unkempt urchin]

nice 😄 Dragon gunship!

[acoustic osprey]

Clearly an avatar fan

[nimble verge]

Trihorner

[stone crater]

ofc my bad

So islands like Velada and Spiro are more or less artificial ecosystems, with species introduced by AE, right?? Those being the AI chickens, boar, deer, etc.

Had a funny thought, then.D’you think AE also introduced the bees we’re getting later on in Gateway?? AE beekeeping… falling in love with that mental image

[acoustic osprey]

No Velada

But practically every island and their ecosystem seems to be made up

All synthetically done by AE

[stone crater]

what do you mean?? is Gateway not Velada anymore??

[sonic rampart]

Velada was a leaked file name, all official mention of it has been Gateway

[modern rover]

it was never officially velada

only unofficial leaks had ever called it velada

[acoustic osprey]

Never has been technically

[acoustic osprey]

Not really leaks

More like asset file names being dubbed "Velada"

In the in-game files

Honestly, not surprised they didn't move it to Gateway
The island was hidden, as per the meaning of Velada

Veiled

[nimble verge]

Velveeta moment

[acoustic osprey]

Cheese

[nimble verge]

That's why the file was named, it was just a typo that it came out as Velada

lore

[acoustic osprey]

Of course

[rustic urchin]

Wouldn’t gateways island still have an island name that isn’t just gateway

Like on official maps would the island be recognized as just ‘Gateway’?

[mystic rivet]

Maybe

[fickle sapphire]

What is Gateway?

[rustic urchin]

The new map coming

[acoustic osprey]

It has a name

[chrome acorn]

lore

[subtle atlas]

Covfefe

[rustic urchin]

Maybe isla velada is still the name of the island gateway is on

[weak heart]

maybe the real isla velada are the friends we made along the way

[bold crater]

That's what I had hoped for. Velada is the island's natural name, Gateway is the code name.

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

[rustic urchin]

wow!

[acoustic osprey]

^

[knotty locust]

im almost certain this just refers to gateway being, well, the gateway to tartarus or hell or whatever you wish to call it

as demons emerge from the gateway

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

you are not wrong

[knotty locust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1068634032461594737/2518BD95-241A-4CA9-934C-43069461128A.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/5b2204012297dac0bc4cb3a9ae4b1946

[cerulean kiln]

heres a theory: the isle is pretty much like jurassic park except the isle's dinosaurs are more accurate

its like a jurassic park gone wrong(er)

[strange shell]

Except there is no park in The Isle either

[slow delta]

The isle is jurassic park gone right where the mega corpos got their way

[rustic urchin]

If ingen was replaced with vought

[cinder atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-sigh-whatever-not-surprised-gif-22918448

[rustic urchin]

https://youtu.be/_M9ctyFRWsY?t=111

swap superheroes with dinosaurs and i can see the connections

pharmacy/medical company doing some definitely shady stuff with genetics

[severe plinth]

anyone wanna give me a quick rundown of the current favorite theory?

[rustic urchin]

the two docs in pinned is basically the gist

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[rigid seal]

lightclaw and to everyone happy late valentines day 😄

[acoustic osprey]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SecretQuickIberianmidwifetoad-mobile.mp4

[rigid seal]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-world-dominion-ouch-ahh-jurassic-dino-gif-24849732

[acoustic osprey]

As minimal as lore is at the moment here, I love lore

[icy onyx]

K15-C2?

I forgor what it meant

[sonic rampart]

Sector K15, camera 2

[icy onyx]

Thank you

[real grail]

Hypo rex

[acoustic osprey]

K15 and I12

i not l

[violet oyster]

Lightclaw

Do you got that Driver to the graf with released updated you made ?

Wiat he talked here 2 days ago...

[sonic rampart]

That isn't related to lore, either

[violet oyster]

Well i thought he talked here but it appears it was 2 days ago

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[violet oyster]

Could ya drop it plz real quick

[violet oyster]

🥹

[bitter idol]

what is isla velada?

[acoustic osprey]

Gateway

[bitter idol]

no i mean where did this name come from

[sly merlin]

Do any of you guys remember strains?

[bitter idol]

yeah?

[acoustic osprey]

In-game files

[acoustic osprey]

Hypers, Neuros and Tissos
still confirmed

[sly merlin]

Nice

[acoustic osprey]

Magna? Replaced by "O"s
If that's still true now

[sly merlin]

I wonder if the strains will flow to a new version of tribals

If they ever add them

[acoustic osprey]

Likely just The Eyeless

[sly merlin]

Yea prob

Also what is the unfinished compounds purpose

Obv it’s a human made building but why so big

[acoustic osprey]

If you're looking at in-game Spiro, try not to

[bitter idol]

oh thats interesting, thx

[runic shuttle]

Are Tissoplastic strains still a thing ?

[bold crater]

From what we know, yes. Their concept however was said (LONG ago) to be getting redone. How exactly, we're not sure. :C

Originally they were supposed to be smaller, sleeker, have octopus camo, and various debilitating abilities like poisons or venoms.

Hope they don't stray too far from that.....stealth strain is awesome

[icy onyx]

What estimates or speculations have been made over the time in which Evrima is set in

[runic shuttle]

It does sound fun 😊

[runic shuttle]

hm, from what I know, the buildings and so are from the 80s-90s at least.
But with no further information on when it's actually playing

[icy onyx]

Thats good, I put my estimates on the late 80s too

except I used the designs of the computer models

[bold crater]

There's that one lore paper we got that m i g h t imply something ~2173 (may not be the exact number)

[runic shuttle]

hm o:

[icy onyx]

probably gonna have to hit up lightclaw for that paper again

1986-1990 is a more narrow estimate due to the keyboard designs

[sick oak]

A hypo Utahraptor would be cool like it being bigger more scary fast like spikes all around it and maybe the split jaw

[fringe marsh]

There already was concept art for a hyper utah, as well as a model and skin I believe.

It's based on the first (and imo superior) utahraptor model however, and would probably be redesigned if added ever.

[acoustic osprey]

Unofficial art
Just an official model

Unless you include the old Vega art

[acoustic osprey]

2172

[icy onyx]

stinky

[runic shuttle]

good to know o:

[icy onyx]

2172 and theres no phones, how disgusting

[acoustic osprey]

4k crt monitor

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/owen-wilson-wow-marley-and-me-smooth-hd-hq-gif-25544466

[icy onyx]

Why not make a Hyper Trike 🤷‍♂️

[strange shell]

According to old lore herbis can't become hypers because plant matter isn't nutritious enough to sustain one

Although one could imagine a trike turning carnivore once it becomes a hyper

[acoustic osprey]

Old and New Lore
There are NO herbi Hypers

[strange shell]

There are no herbivore hypers in Ba Sing Se ?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

None in Ba Sing Se 😢

[sly merlin]

Imagine a hypo deino

You could get 5 utahs, 3 stegos, 2 carnos, 4 pachys, and god knows how many pteras and they could not kill that thing

[maiden sundial]

Hyper

[sly merlin]

Yea yea hyperblahblahblah

[viscid kestrel]

So this game has lore?

[modern rover]

a decent amount, yes

[maiden sundial]

Yes quite a bit

[sly merlin]

Is the method of inheriting strains confirmed yet or no

[acoustic osprey]

Inheriting?

[sly merlin]

Like how would you become a strain

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know how currently, yes

[sly merlin]

BUT strains are confirmed right

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[rapid chasm]

what if hypers can nest but they have a high death rate at birth

[acoustic osprey]

I hope not

[sly merlin]

Nah it’d be too op cause the player could just get invited again until they’re born

Hypers shouldn’t be able to nest at all

[modern rover]

tbf, a baby hyper would probably be dead before it even got close to sub

[sly merlin]

Fr

Everyone would go after it

[modern rover]

thats not even why

it would starve so quickly

[sly merlin]

You should have to be a sub adult and above to somehow become a strain

[sly merlin]

True yea hypers eat so Godamn much

[acoustic osprey]

tbh, a "baby hyper" would just be consumed by the parent, prior to even giving birth

Strains should be infertile

[sly merlin]

Exactly

[icy onyx]

""staff""

[acoustic osprey]

These images seem to be the ones Fred and Tap have done

Where it's artwork over an in-game image

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1078217848540889138/Exterior_C.png

Practically, in-game, you could see roads/dirt-paths entering the Aviaries

So, my presumption (simple presumption) wasn't wrong

There were more to them, obviously

[outer verge]

Well we dont know if its an aviary. Its just called "the dome"

[acoustic osprey]

Either they're in the actual Gateway map rn... we don't know?

[acoustic osprey]

No, it's referred to as an Aviary by Vis

[outer verge]

Got a screenshot?

[acoustic osprey]

sure

It was in the Aviary devblog section

And lastly, I want to showcase, the Aviary. Which will be soon featured in the game.

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/376210/view/3319730991342037397

Although, they're likely not just "Aviaries"

As we know there are multiple places on Gateway/AE islands
eg. A Botany section

[outer verge]

This does not at all look like that aviary. Also the aviary model was done like ages ago and this one seems to barely have a correctly functioning mesh

[acoustic osprey]

Keep in mind the artwork above was heavily modified by the artist (you can see the strokes on the aviary above)

But it's the same

All the aviaries on Gateway are the same

[acoustic osprey]

Actually, the only part that doesn't have artstrokes is the bottom wall section

[outer verge]

Yeah but I still dont see the similarities between "the dome" and the aviary

Could be AE:s HQ?

[acoustic osprey]

Olympus CC? Maybe

But, that artwork also isn't even a dome

It's literally a Hyper Fence Gate

And with Tap/Fred painting a wall over it with a top

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1078217848540889138/Exterior_C.png
Perspective isn't really that great in this one

But the aviary models are the only domes we know and have

(model)

[outer verge]

Gtg, ill hop back when im not on mobile

[acoustic osprey]

I know

[runic shuttle]

The ones on Gateway ?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[runic shuttle]

Are they confirmed to be aviaries ? they don't look like it ):

[acoustic osprey]

This/Gateway one IS a Aviary

[runic shuttle]

hm, but why would we have 3 aviaries on Gateway
Maybe as placeholder for something else ?
Or I guess an Aviary can be used for different things, it depends what they want to put inside

[acoustic osprey]

They're all the same

But I'm presuming each for their different purposes

Heck, just go back to old lore and use some Roman words, and call them Atriums

[runic shuttle]

oh! that makes more sense to me

[acoustic osprey]

And to which, our Aviaries are very "dome"-esque

[runic shuttle]

I really wonder what they plan to put inside of them.
Also, the building in the new picture with the car doesn't look like one of the Aviaries/Domes we saw on Gateway

I wonder where they'd place it

[acoustic osprey]

This is the part where I'd say
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1056784575541555220/Untitled.png

[acoustic osprey]

Although, we do know where they are placed.
Are they final from Gateway ST? Maybe, maybe not

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1078231166575976508/image0.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1078217848922574858/Dome_Interior.png

Like with anything, it could just be colloquial language used by AE themselves
They're not just Aviaries, but just domes in-general

Like how Generic Underground Transport System is the (unofficial official) name for GUTS

But practically no one will ever say GUTS' actual confirmed name- I don't believe there is one (Don't believe Don wanted to make one)

Or it's just the artist and just referring to them as Domes

Either way, they're all (technically) Domes in shape

And if there were gonna be "Dome Models", I don't see the space for them

Unless you want an overly excessive map with Human stuff

Of course, don't know till a dev says something

[runic shuttle]

That's what I was wondering
This "dome" didn't look like the ones we have on the map, so I was wondering if it was going to replace one of the ones we already saw on the map, or if it will be place somwhere else. but where?
Or maybe it is a dome like we saw on Gateway, hard to tell for me >.<

[acoustic osprey]

I don't think it's a dome

It doesn't even look like it's in the game
It's all smudged and 2d

the perspective is also ruined

Being common in those "2d x 3d" concept arts

[runic shuttle]

But what is it then, and where could it be on the map o:

[acoustic osprey]

Well it seems to be in reference to The Dome

[runic shuttle]

hm, "The Dome" ?

[acoustic osprey]

Image didn't have a file description called Dome though

[acoustic osprey]

Well, less so the pronoun

more just a dome

every dome had those "pathways" in the ST
I'm guessing this is just Tap/Fred's attempt at showing how a Dome/Aviary entrance would look like

[runic shuttle]

Now I'm confused ):

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

This dome = Likely just another ordinary dome, as it's not actually a dome in-game (just a wall and hyper fence)

Presumption = This is just a showcase of what the Domes/Aviaries (interchangeable) will look like with their exterior doors

[runic shuttle]

ah, that's fair, yeah 😊 thank you

[acoustic osprey]

No worries

this is just my presumption on it
Have to wait till Don/someone says something about it

[bitter idol]

this thing have been made in 1987.

[half dock]

True But also they were around in the 90's and early 2000's I remember having those

[sand seal]

Yeah, my computer had one until like… 2008, I think.

[acoustic osprey]

Don't forget the CRT monitors say 4K HD

But, I'm unsure on to which stuff was Vis having fun and lore

[sly merlin]

All strains that are playable in game (legacy) can only be accessed by devs right

[rapid chasm]

It's a hyper fence modified to make it look like dome

[acoustic osprey]

@rapid chasm
Aye, I know

[acoustic osprey]

Devs or people hacking the game

[rapid chasm]

Is there any other images of the human location concept art

[bitter idol]

yeah true

what the-
wait a minute

[bitter idol]

it says 2030??

oh nvm its 2000 XD

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[icy onyx]

Gotta love computer lore in the isle

[acoustic osprey]

The Isle timeline

[sinful bloom]

[outer verge]

Btw regardless of what- or where the concept art interiors are I would like to point out that the lights are on

In the last image it could also be natural light but at least in one of them the lights are very much on, and the base seems to be operational

[maiden sundial]

Perhaps running on emergency power

[acoustic osprey]

Players fixing the buildings and using them as bases

Emergency power, 20 years later

[maiden sundial]

They're using duracell

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[outer verge]

I doubt the lights would be a priority

Idk could just be for the sake of astethics. Theyd prolly be off in game

Pitch black concept art doesnt offer much

[acoustic osprey]

Either it's for aesthetics
Or it's players

You'd, realistically, want lights on

At least you want to see

[outer verge]

Well it would make for a hell of an environment. Massive dark facility with only nv/flashlights

Unless some powerplant is still active and connected to AE:s powergrid there would probably not be any lights

[acoustic osprey]

Not any lights without Gen 2 inference

[outer verge]

Torches

[acoustic osprey]

But from the images where there is visible light

[acoustic osprey]

We know there are generators being made by Vis

So I don't see electricity being an issue

[acoustic osprey]

They are also driving into the building/in the building

So clearly these guys are more prepared

At least, more equipped

[outer verge]

Full facility wide lighting would still seem to be a bit of a powersink

[acoustic osprey]

Or it's just art from AE back then

[acoustic osprey]

Depends
Still possible, especially in later games

[outer verge]

Perhaps yeah

Bit redundant to speculate hugely yet tho

Could litetrally just be a pretty picture

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Obviously
Just an artwork

[outer verge]

Very pretty artwork

[burnt python]

my theory: dinosaurs arent real

[icy onyx]

banned

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-laughing-hilarious-comical-amusing-gif-12922196

[junior terrace]

what if the isle islands were a real place, heres a very simple map

also to mention unlike the other islands theynaw is owned by the usa as you isla is a spanish word

hows the map

[outer verge]

We have tried locating the islands before and there is currently no way to do so

See this convo from 2020 ^

[safe ravine]

Small issue with spiro, it's also a full island

[sonic rampart]

v3 isn't named Isla Nycta either, I think it's only ever been referred to as v3

[junior terrace]

damit

[junior terrace]

i put isla nycta because in reality you wouldnt call and island v3

[safe ravine]

I vaguely remember V3 having a "name" at some point but I don't remember what the name was

[maiden sundial]

Also Spiro and v3 are equal in size

[junior terrace]

i tried to match up the evironment

[outer verge]

That has also been tried countless times

[acoustic osprey]

No

[maiden sundial]

Or rather Spiro is slightly bigger iirc

[stuck flame]

So..whats the story we have now?

[rapid chasm]

no....

[maiden sundial]

The size is accurate isn't it?

[acoustic osprey]

~15km^2 for V3
20 for Spiro

[maiden sundial]

Oh. So v3 is smaller by about 5km²

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

However, playable Spiro is tiny

Tiny but feels giant
You can guess why

[maiden sundial]

Sprawling grasslands and dense forests.

[acoustic osprey]

repetition!!

[stuck flame]

What happened?

[acoustic osprey]

in the "story" of the isle?

[stuck flame]

Yeah..last thing i heard was about a super computer and dinos with human minds

[acoustic osprey]

Super Computer = Replicator
It's some sort of AI

Unsure on the clear details on it at the moment
But it calls for worship by Tribals
Tribals being highly modified Humans (very likely to be failed as well) from the main company that made The Isle, Apollo Engineering

The Human Minds in Dinosaur bodies is an older theory but hasn't made a return yet
Hopefully it doesn't in my opinion, but it might.

Sometime, as you might be able to tell from older and recent concept art, that the buildings on the islands have weathered, alongside walls/equipment/buildings being broken and smashed
Indicating that something happened on these islands, and now they're back

[stuck flame]

They are back?..you mean the apollo engineer monsters?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

Practically all the strains:
Tissos, Hypers and Neuros

And the "Titans" of sorts, Colossus, Echidna and Reaper

[stuck flame]

Ohh thats exciting..long time they dissapeared

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

although, we haven't had any lore since (properly) 2018

So now it's getting better with Isle's lore

if you remember the Olympus Transmissions, they are no longer here/Canon

[stuck flame]

Oh..damn

[acoustic osprey]

aye

And Phoenix Int. (PCE) is not linked with Isle lore anymore

[stuck flame]

I dont know what this one is..but there was a game long forgotten..carnage or som? Its not a thing anymore too

[acoustic osprey]

Primal Carnage, aye

The creator of The Isle contributed/developed that game
But he seems he does no longer want to connect the two game's lore

[stuck flame]

Good..the game is dead anyway

[acoustic osprey]

lol

and allows for more creative freedom

[stuck flame]

Yeah, tho dondi updates the game like a turtle

But i believe in this game potential

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/haha-laughing-gif-6054649

[rapid chasm]

what if AE is just afterthought lle in disguise?

[acoustic osprey]

Good question

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1078217847299375104/Drain_Exterior_D.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1078217845642625024/Drain_Exterior_A.png

Can't appreciate the amount of nice details with keeping things feel the same

Especially D and A

D nailed the colour palette the best

but A felt like something AE would make, if you look at their artstyle

However, I do LOVE the more modern approach they went with AE's buildings

They feel industrial

as per AE being a bio-engineering (medicinal) company
Why wouldn't their buildings be made to fit the idea of being made for a company

Rather than "Fun and happy park buildings!"

Not to crap on JPs and JWs own respected artstyles

both were (theme) parks

[modern rover]

I like the deviation from the park-ish colourful design

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

it feels like a medicine company trying to make their product

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, give A the palette and D. It'll be perfect

And not the sad mushroom colour it has going

[modern rover]

It's got the whole grey-hell dystopia, alongside green-hell nightmare jungles crawling with creatures

Massive juxtaposition of either these cold, towering grey monoliths vs the endless tropical green forests, teeming with nightmares

[acoustic osprey]

I do hope Tartarus is visibly different in some sense

[modern rover]

I feel the move towards tropical design also helps better highlight this juxtaposition, cold vs warm, nature vs industry, colourful forests vs grey halls

[acoustic osprey]

if AE is "Modern"
Tartarus being the most "Dystopian Post-Modern" would be interesting

And would highlight Tartarus in being very important, or hold some high value to AE

[acoustic osprey]

alive, green and vibrant forest
vs
dead weathered modern facilities

[modern rover]

The abandoned nature of the facilities would also really solidify the juxtaposition

Like, they're entirely lifeless

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

Excluding the fact they'll be "rehoused"

But, I don't imagine them being power washed any time soon

[modern rover]

I also like how much this emphasises HOW powerful AE already was, well before they started their dino experiments

[acoustic osprey]

I'm guessing it'll mostly be an interior "clean-up"

[modern rover]

The amount of money that must be in a single island's infrastructure alone is manic

[acoustic osprey]

cleaning exteriors is pretty useless, especially for something like this

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-money-tom-and-jerry-movie-gif-21059368

[acoustic osprey]

then you see giant holes and ripped Hyper Fences!
Oh you say to yourself oh damn

[modern rover]

AE was very clearly already the top of their field well before they started The Isle's events, because they have a lot of money to dedicate specifically to this R&D

[acoustic osprey]

They had to have been successful

Like, sure- a rich guy could've just said "Dinosaur!"
But we know AE is medicinal based

This couldn't have been a simple side project

Something like this could not have been cheap

[modern rover]

This was an expansion on an already lucrative business

[acoustic osprey]

might be, yeah

Depends on how AE came to turns in being this big

Is it "X" guy made AE, then invested in research on Dino revival- etc etc

or did "X" guy do a "Smart guy in garage" and invent what AE have

[modern rover]

You don't just BUY entire islands and cover them in massive goliaths of human engineering along with massive goliaths of evolution, and not have some kind of reason for it. This project must of been to achieve SOMETHING big, that would return even more than spent

Because it's a business, so this was done with the intention of profit, so what were they trying to do, and what's so profitable about it?

[acoustic osprey]

Something about Medicine

The explicit information? Known to only Don (hopefully) and whoever was told by him

[modern rover]

I do think the primary reason is essentially accelerating evolution by force. If you can make a man better than he is in every way, stronger, smarter, faster, every human on earth would be scrambling for what you're selling.

[acoustic osprey]

To which I am not one!
Besides, not knowing is cool

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/upgrades-robots-gif-21291099

Obviously comes down to ethical issues

Seems like Gen 2s aren't just people who signed up

Seeing as they're all the same age, means they're likely all made in a lab at birth
or all birthed at "X" age

[modern rover]

Hell, AE could honestly ERASE disease, which I honestly think was in their goals.

There's also the potential of military deals

[acoustic osprey]

Now, how would they profit of stopping disease? Being a medicinal company

[modern rover]

If you control the cure to all disease, every other competitor is gone

[acoustic osprey]

So erase would not be the correct term

[modern rover]

If you decide how long it lasts, how much it costs and so on, you control the entire market

[acoustic osprey]

Control disease

Ah, you have Cancer?
Yikes! It'll only be $200,000 😊

[modern rover]

Gen 1 and the strains are also clearly attempts to create creatures that are greater than themselves, although clearly the end results, both aesthetically and in-practice, aren't really the desired result

No human would want to be what the strains are

[acoustic osprey]

Strains, from Don and Dalt talk, seem to have been made for diseases
So it's not a far fetched theory

And ultimately seemed to be their downfall on the islands

[modern rover]

Even if it is disease, they can literally go further beyond sickness. They can make someone BETTER than they are, ever were, and ever could be

[acoustic osprey]

Unless it more so Replicator turning sentient

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-felicitations-feliciter-christophwaltz-gif-5034402

I imagine "Bodies for when you die!"
Something akin to immortality

But, after you die- Next life it is!
Aka like how the elder system works

[modern rover]

Gen 2 could literally be marketable replacements, yea

[acoustic osprey]

Restart with better perks!

[modern rover]

You sell lives

[acoustic osprey]

I'm presuming something like that, yes

[acoustic osprey]

capitalised immortality

Sure, AE can't cure immortality, but hell they can make you purchase another life once you die

[modern rover]

Gen 1 is likely more down the line of human enough to test on and see what happens, while being non-human enough to fall in a very weird grey area

[acoustic osprey]

Or they don't want to cure pure immortality

[modern rover]

Otherwise, why keep them around?

Unless it's due to the replicator REALLY liking them

[acoustic osprey]

Likely

[modern rover]

And AE not so much caring for their failed works

[acoustic osprey]

I don't believe AE wanted to keep them

[modern rover]

Doubt it, yea

[acoustic osprey]

but, AE not having control of the islands stopped much from happening

And Tribals being the only things with some sort of brain (excluding Echidna, Reaper and Colossus) to commune with

Especially there being multiple Tribals

[modern rover]

It's quite possible that Gen 1 caused a lot of AE's downfall. By creating it, the replicator caught wind, realised they were clever enough to listen to orders, but not enough to ask questions. Made them the instruments of it's power

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

I do wonder
what The Replicator wants from Tribals

besides being man power

As we know Tribals sacrifice things to The Replicator
But what? Who knows

Maybe it's Replicator asking Tribals to kill and sacrifice Gen 2s

Making Tribals more akin to their name "Cannibals", in some sort of way

Both Tribals and Gen 2s being human
And also of the same family of production

But, it's just a brain thought for the time
Until Don spills more

Copium playing here, but I can't wait till 3-5 years
Were lore, hopefully, is actually more built properly in the public eye

and not just what Don has been writing himself

[acoustic osprey]

tiny man

[nimble verge]

He having a little stroll in his tidy whities

He got up looking for the fridge

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713759451836055653/993847937547382824/unknown.png
Tiny man

Yes

[nimble verge]

David

[acoustic osprey]

David!

[nimble verge]

He just wants his Baloney and cheese sandwich with mayo.

A simple bald man.

[acoustic osprey]

I don't think he wants to put himself into lore?

However, I cannot comment
I know that EVERYTHING in lore has to have it's meaning

For example the afterthought easter egg

Not in lore
And it's going to get removed

[nimble verge]

David is related to the CEO of AE, he is currently the Director of Human resources

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/990070296549679125/Screen_Shot_2022-06-25_at_11.45.39_am.png

Basically at all lockers

lol

Lore

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jango-fett-just-a-simple-man-trying-to-make-it-getting-by-coy-gif-16072973

[nimble verge]

"I'm just a simple man, trying to make a baloney sandwich while these damn Deinosuchus' try to snag my tidy whities from me." - David Bavick Director of Human Resources

[acoustic osprey]

^^

[nimble verge]

Now we wait

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-felicitations-feliciter-christophwaltz-gif-5034402

[acoustic osprey]

I do hope I have some sort of life here when lore actually get's a lot more bigger, like it was years ago

if at all, making proper content for it
Anything that makes my doc easier to understand

[rustic urchin]

So checkhovs gun rule kinda applies?

Every thing in the lore has to have relevant meaning?

[pseudo fable]

Tiny man is well and truly there because we needed a size reference.

[modern rover]

God bless tiny man for his thankless duties

[acoustic osprey]

Goddamn it!

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

At least in reference to how Don has replied with my queries, yes

[acoustic osprey]

Iirc, it's just legacy one

So I'm not tempted to go over it
I'm pretty sure it's has it's own little section from Hell Shades's doc

Very sure

Ignore the crappy screenshot

I am on phone
But yes, practically everything the same from it

I believe it's identical
Away from home at the moment, don't know if it's worth having a look when I get back tonight

[acoustic osprey]

Seems like this could be "dome"

As it seemed quite unnaturally straight

For an aviary
In comparison to the actual model

[strange shell]

I wonder what the dome will be for

Maybe it's a biodome ?

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

Seeing as the aviaries are big
These must be giant

So I imagine only one or two

[outer verge]

Yeah so it is a dome

[acoustic osprey]

Both domes

[outer verge]

And not an aviary spesifically

[acoustic osprey]

But this is specifically a "dome"

And not an aviary dome

[outer verge]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

Which is cool

[outer verge]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

Either it was weird perception
Being an aviary

Or just a new dome

At least this new ones fits as well

Either way, a bit more worldbuilding

[nimble verge]

The great hexagon

[acoustic osprey]

Hexagon is the bestagon

[cinder atlas]

Maybe is fishbowl. :)

[acoustic osprey]

Giant fishbowl!!

[cinder atlas]

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, there is an entry place called poseidon

Why not have giant fishbowl for it!!

[acoustic osprey]

And hey
Some of these buildings and/or objects could be related/linked to Tartarus!

[rustic urchin]

i could see the domes being made to where they can suit multiple biomes

so like if theres 3 identical domes, the insides can all be different

[acoustic osprey]

i imagine the hexagon only having one

or two

[rustic urchin]

im saying like one dome=one biome, but multiple domes could be possible

[acoustic osprey]

being the biggest out of the two models
I don't imagine AE would just produce a large amount of those hexagon domes if the aviary models still exist

[acoustic osprey]

I'd link it less to biomes

and more to the stuff on the Graph

Unless "X" biome is needed to test

I don't imagine having multiple biomes would be very effective for research

[rustic urchin]

oh you think like each structure links to that lore paper?

[acoustic osprey]

unless they want to sell dinosaurs, ones made for the Antarctic, Gobi Desert, etc

[acoustic osprey]

yes
being site designations

I can imagine these domes linking to some/most of these sites

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/979041925619396629/1079276316303564820/ISL_BLD2D_overview_CON-a.png
Heck, look at old lore

Some could even contain buildings inside them, depending on the situation
Unless contains a Tribal Village, cannot remember

But hey, who knows
We have zero clue

whenever we get word from Don/something in P3 (or in-game)

[rustic urchin]

considering this was in pce days it makes sense to see buildings inside the atrium

on some level it definitely resembles Atrium C from primal, which had lots of inside buildings

[acoustic osprey]

aye, although looks like Iron's tribal buildings inside

[rustic urchin]

they def look wooden or leather to me so tribals could be likely

[acoustic osprey]

Which would make sense

[rustic urchin]

id assume whenever gen1 was made, they were initially contained

[acoustic osprey]

and would still make sense

[acoustic osprey]

Aye
Unless Don wants more free-range Tribals

[rustic urchin]

just obiously at some point or another, they got out

also possible that much of the fauna is free range contained

[acoustic osprey]

because...

do not permit them to enter. If they speak to you, do not reply

[acoustic osprey]

Looking at the large amount of Hyper Fences covering Gateway

[rustic urchin]

where theres like a large wild area of the island thats all fenced in, where the animals essentially are wild, but contained so they arent running around

[acoustic osprey]

enclosures!

[rustic urchin]

one big enclosure with all the animals together, left to their own devices

[acoustic osprey]

I don't think it's just one large big one

Unless the fence placements were replaced
There seemed to be sectors

[rustic urchin]

maybe a few yea

[acoustic osprey]

Can't remember the codenames/labels of the Gate (seemed like placeholders?)
but there were "sections"

[rustic urchin]

but the idea is there, essentially a dinosaur nature reserve, where theyre acting naturally as possible but still contained for safety and research

more natural and probably easier than hundreds of individual pens for each species like a zoo

gateway having lots of hyper fences makes sense if its meant to be a gateway to tartar sauce

[acoustic osprey]

and then specifically using the domes with certain experiments- looking at drone quetz
and sections that don't need "Free Range"

aka (most likely) Botany section

[rustic urchin]

yea probably mixtures of free range areas and then more controlled r&d areas

probably explains why all the dinos have trackers, the island is implied to have lots of cameras, and things like that. the dinos are kinda on their own

for the most part, anyway

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

but yeah, isle lore being lore

https://tenor.com/view/funny-laughing-hilarious-comical-amusing-gif-12922196

[rustic urchin]

yup

[nimble verge]

So many pteranodons will have broken necks from flying into the oddly angled glass.

[acoustic osprey]

Confuse and conquer!

[nimble verge]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-flew-window-gif-17014862

[hexed flax]

@acoustic osprey visualtech said that the dome has a diameter of 15 kilometers. Now you finally have something for scale

[acoustic osprey]

shame we don't know how much larger than the Aviary Domes

oh wait

Starting from this month, I’ve been tasked with a large structure that will surely be a massive point of interest on Gateway which spans 15 km on its longest distance.

[hexed flax]

The way he write this is a bit confusing. He could mean the large structure or Gateway