isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

Wrong reply

[open compass]

But there's no line connecting G to A

[crisp raven]

is this 291's path?

[acoustic osprey]

G, B, A

[barren lodge]

looks like D is only accessed from A or F

[acoustic osprey]

Which sounds like 291 deliberately went to D

[crisp raven]

is A zeus?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[crisp raven]

I don't think Zeus is an aviary if it is also the gateway to Olympus

[raw dove]

seems it searched all 3 sites cuz they all get marked

[open compass]

I guess I just assumed that you had to get through whatever entrance is at B to get to A

[crisp raven]

Started at G then

[open compass]

Like the tunnel connecting is on the other side of the door

[acoustic osprey]

It can be anything really

[crisp raven]

true

[barren lodge]

what could the "torn stationary" be ? from the things on Errant-291

[crisp raven]

i personally hope we get a troodon designed cave with small spaces

[barren lodge]

could be a camera? stationary camera

[acoustic osprey]

Seems like B (and C) have three different marked exit points

Down to G
NE to A
Up to Central Control

[acoustic osprey]

Stated it was a ripped piece of paper

[crisp raven]

Is central control the title of the page or is it an actual building

[acoustic osprey]

Which is likely the same sent in p3

[acoustic osprey]

No
Seems to be a place, like A, B etc

It'd be the "HQ"

[crisp raven]

That means central Control must power everything else

[open compass]

There's no telling how it works without an actual map or pictures of the place itself

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't say "power"
Electric-wise

[crisp raven]

I bet GUTS have underground stations like subways. That is why everything is connected

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/993846236119584858/Screenshot_2022-07-05_121858.gif

[crisp raven]

Stations

[barren lodge]

WHO

[acoustic osprey]

In recent maths, this is a network
We can tell there is a connection with different sites
Aka. A with D
Through the lines

Those lines are called "Edges"

We can identify that A has multiple edges coming from it (they're all degrees)

A having a degree of 4
From B, C, D and HQ

But it is not too scale

However, networks are done in a semi-accurate way

Obviously A isn't equally away from B and C

[barren lodge]

So the lines are not the GUTS lines More like ways of getting to each Letter

[acoustic osprey]

But likely connected through GUTS

[open compass]

I understand, but there's no way to tell if the connection from B to A is accessible from the outside or if you have to have already gone through B to get to A

[acoustic osprey]

Depends
They are passage ways

Could be GUTs
Could be roads
Could be trailways

[crisp raven]

Goes from point 1 to 2 to 3 to 4 etc.

[hot vector]

Now the question the errants its the cannibals or another type of creature ? Because they can mimic the voices of peoples

[barren lodge]

all of the above okay

[crisp raven]

GUTS follows a certain route

[barren lodge]

and they die right outside of the access from GUTS

[acoustic osprey]

You have to, through networks, assume all are accessible

But it seems like 291 had access to the GUTs in his incident report

[acoustic osprey]

Either a human, tribal or Eyeless

[open compass]

True

[crisp raven]

these guys must be very intelligent to be almost human level

I hope strain plants can be found wild around the islands and gateway

[acoustic osprey]

But yeah, who knows
You could be right in assumption, or we're both wrong

The way of lore! Haha

[crisp raven]

Especially a forest of Strain Plants near Botany

[open compass]

Tangential, but I'd guess the biotrace it mentions a couple time is the same thing that tracks dino location and age on the escape menu

Considering it's susceptible to radio waves and they checked if 291 had one

And the name

[hot vector]

I dont know If they gonna put strain plants because Will not gonna have strain hypo, tisso or neuro herbivores

[bold crater]

Reminds me of when they talked about being nested in preventing you from getting a tracker.

[crisp raven]

yea, but making playables are much different than making freaky plant assets

[barren lodge]

The PDA will have a big role in explaning most of these questions i think

[acoustic osprey]

If we go off old lore, could be a way of checking if they had been infected by "Neuro Goo"

[crisp raven]

probably will be a thing

[barren lodge]

https://www.biofeedback-tech.com/

I looked up biotrace and it seems like the dino menu info

[open compass]

Or maybe just more generally to track where people had been to make sure they hadn't been near somebody that'd give them neuro goo

[barren lodge]

biofeedback

[open compass]

Probably why 291 didn't have one tbh

[barren lodge]

Temperature, force, acceleration measurement and more

[acoustic osprey]

You think all employees would've had one/whatever it is
(If it's a chip or something)

Just so they don't get another Echidna lol

[green crater]

Wait why are they marked spoiler

[acoustic osprey]

Because

[barren lodge]

has to be about the gameplay

[hot vector]

Hmmm If you think right, its difficult to have just this five "errants" in this huge facility

[olive glacier]

what does GUTS stand for again?

[sonic rampart]

Generic Underground Transport System, the real name may never be revealed

[agile dirge]

I’m curious if the extra bits of graphics on the map have any importance. Going top down, you have the surface with Control right there, and as you go deeper into the GUTS (in the downwards) to the deepest pits/Tartarus, marked out by the lower lines and redacted names below L

If this is all as planned out as dondi seems to be going with details in plain sight, the very not straight lines to just mark out the map stands out

[acoustic osprey]

The scribbles?

[agile dirge]

The red

Just seems like an odd way of doing it. Even the bottom is separated into 3 sections

[acoustic osprey]

Well if it's a graphic barrier (brackets) saying these are all the general site designations

Then the bottom three could honestly be the docks

Isn't a proper map

Just a network system

[agile dirge]

Yea, Ik, could be layed out in any x,y,z possible

[acoustic osprey]

Roughly, maybe

Just don't think it's literal "level system"

The lower you are, you are literally lower in the ground

[agile dirge]

Yea, that’s what I was trying to say (way to tired for intelligent thought rn)

Symbolism and all that, Tartarus being the deepest pits in hell, and if the map is not a horizontal but a vertical one (roughly) and the R&D depts being deeper down and better secured with the pits to the horrors below being the deepest

[acoustic osprey]

No, I'm saying it's not vertical

[agile dirge]

Concrete is strong, but a literal mountain is stronger

[acoustic osprey]

Not sure why you'd place a transmitter in the middle of the ground

[agile dirge]

Fair

Actually, one sec, more phone drawing time as I do more arts

Ignoring the actual connection lines, of course, but
Edit - nice, stuck loading pic

Cmon, go, send, fly little data packets

[acoustic osprey]

(edges)

[agile dirge]

Alright. Text it is.
ABCDGFH in a ring ish shape, with D being the major central location.
JKL are R&D, building with experiments from below or whatever
KIE are are related in the biological end (assumptions on K)

I’m also just blindly throwing ideas at the wall to see what sticks as a plausible

[acoustic osprey]

The routes are not a proper accurate map

Be aware that it is just a Network system

It does not need to be truly accurate

[agile dirge]

I know I know. I also know you know way more than me in the lore, at that

Just seems like some of that minor stuff should mean something. AE doesn’t strike me as a company for aesthetics despite their symbolisms

Like how the solid edges are what they might be, what’s the lighter dotted lines following behind heading down the page

[acoustic osprey]

Oh definitely

Even the scribbles, likely being 291's

[agile dirge]

The GUTS access route too, one of them is followed by a double arrow while the rest are all single. High speed transports or something other? Thought I saw something earlier about the monorails being decannonized

[acoustic osprey]

Don has said everything has meaning
So we'll see more of everything, the locations more so, in the future

[acoustic osprey]

GUTS is a transport system, basically all connected through Monorails

Might've seen me said Monorails won't be used

They won't be used for gameplay

[agile dirge]

Yea, that’s reasonable, I can see those getting abused real fast

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[agile dirge]

Another thought, Assuming 291 is a human. Would it be possible they started from lodgings at G based on the arrow, and made their way up through A to B to C and then to D where they were found. It’s not said if the employee access was valid or matching their own appearance. But they did get taken for questioning, and were able to answer at least coherently and seemingly willingly

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[icy onyx]

It’s like Half life… but with Dinos. Free reign throughout Black Mesa when all hell breaks loose.
I like where this is going 💅

[agile dirge]

Anyways, work is a joyous thing I must deal with in the morning, thanks dondi for the lore to chew on, finally, and thank you light claw for entertaining a half dead man’s monke brain sees pattern in nothing ideas

[icy onyx]

LLLRFL

[rustic urchin]

wait by network as in like a physical network, or a computer network

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-i-know-this-unix-system-gif-14433570

[acoustic osprey]

Maths network

[rustic urchin]

i still think its possible that code refers to directions through the GUTS

Left-left-left-right-forward-left, through the tunnel to 291's destination

[acoustic osprey]

Aka. London tube map

Crap ton of Maths terminology though

[rustic urchin]

ew math

yea thats beyond my paygrade i'll let you guys handle that one lmao

[rustic urchin]

considering 291 seems like kinda an idiot who went aimlessly wandering, looks like he scribbled something down on this paper while travelling. seems like me writing down notes for something i'll forget

[acoustic osprey]

I have to teach it

[rustic urchin]

[acoustic osprey]

Seems like 291 wrote down the scribbles

[rustic urchin]

yes

my theory is he jotted down rough notes to help him remember where to go, like directions

as for 12/7, idk. a date? a code?

[hoary fractal]

I went nerding on about this stuff in another server and the general response was "lolwut" after breaking down the general surface information of the Tree of Life. lol

[strange shell]

Yay lore dropped
The "do not let them enter"
And
"If they speak to you, don't answer" really sound like something from a ghost tale
What could it be reffering to ?

Troodons ? Neuros ? Something else entirely ?

[acoustic osprey]

Tribals or Eyeless

[hoary fractal]

My personal favourite is in the context of "If they speak to you, do not reply."
"Report any ----- heard from the jungle. You should not hear an echo."
Neuros?

[strange shell]

So both of them could speak ?

[acoustic osprey]

Entrance code

[hoary fractal]

Hearing voices with no echo implies telepathy.

[strange shell]

My refer to something copying human voices as well

[rustic urchin]

thats what i was thinking

[acoustic osprey]

Tribals? Most likely

Eyeless? If they're Neuros, most likely as well

[acoustic osprey]

That being what Don said about Echidna

[hoary fractal]

So I'll grab a snippet of something I said in the other server I'm in, regarding to the redacted lines in the locations.

[acoustic osprey]

Which server?

[hoary fractal]

A private one, where they apparently don't appreciate lore digging all that much. lol

Here:

So if my logic is correct, The redacted spheres would be:

F: APOLLO R/D
J: HERMES R/D
K: APHRODITE R/D
L: MENE R/D

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[hoary fractal]

It's also safe to assume that the bottom "tray" below L in the diagram could be MALCHUT/Earth/Gaea.

[acoustic osprey]

Don't think they'd have Apollo, them being Apollo themselves

But

[strange shell]

And why not Artemis, Hephaestus or Hera ?

[hoary fractal]

This was me going off of some Tree of Life models, but I did notice a swappage of two symbols.

In the diagram, A: ZEUS ENTRY is where Keter/Pluto/Hades would be, and B: HADES ENTRY is where Bina/Saturn/Cronus would be, while C: POSEIDON ENTRY is correct to the tree. Whether this is intentional or not is unknown, as what would technically be ZOHAR/Macrocosmos/Limitless Light would be where OLYMPUS Central Control is located.

[strange shell]

There's a lot of gods in greek mythology
On the other hand I don't know why you would censor something if it's just a god's name...
Could one of them be Tartarus ?

[hoary fractal]

A model like this is what I was going from:
https://gyazo.com/cdb097a824bdb1f88e08cd7f54930a31

(Also note the three pillars here, versus the three redactions on the lower territory of the image.)

[strange shell]

Oh
Looks a bit similar indeed

[acoustic osprey]

Depends on when and do did the censoring

[hoary fractal]

Yeah, I saw Dondi post the image of the upper half and I was instantly like "oh hey, that's the Tree of Life." lol

[strange shell]

Well Dondi did, and he probably did it a bit before posting the documents

[hoary fractal]

Imagine being a human in this game trying to live on a dinosaur-infested island with telepathic beings and possible shapeshifters...

[acoustic osprey]

NOOOO

[strange shell]

Yeah ok seriously, why would you censor a document that is supposed to remain classified and only go through the hands of employees ?
Though I assume if they know what it's about they wouldn't need every word to understand what's going on...

[rustic urchin]

DO NOT GO OUTSIDE AFTER SUNSET

[acoustic osprey]

It's similar, albeit it does have some alterations

[strange shell]

Kick them to death

[hoary fractal]

One thing I did notice is that there are a few iterations of the Tree of Life itself, depending on which branch of the following it's coming from. Some don't have what you'd see is the "D: OLYMPUS TRANSMITTER" sphere, and some have just... More.

[outer verge]

That has a striking resemblance

[hoary fractal]

I sort of interpret the guide like... The Olympus Transmitter can be accessed through Zeus Entry and what's assumed to be Apollo R/D, but I could be easily misinterpreting that.

[hoary fractal]

I want to know about the Behavioural Science and Botany areas.

[hoary fractal]

Could also be communication lines as well...

So for the dotted lines, you could have the Lodge (G), the Viewing Platform (H), all four R/D stations (F,J,K,L), the Behavioural Science ward (I), and the Botany ward (E) in a situation where they all have contact with whatever's on the other side of the boundary in the lower image with the three sections, while Zeus, Hades, Poseidon, and Central Control are all isolated to negative comms with the outside.

[outer verge]

Here are the halves of the document combined badly by me. Np

[outer verge]

Based on this Id say the all censored bottom part is tartarus, if its still cannon

[hoary fractal]

Tartarus/Underworld/yeah. lol

[outer verge]

Would seem pretty obvious

[hoary fractal]

Also consider the outermost pillars (solar/lunar) and their reflection in the dotted lines on the guide.

Three pillars total, three segments on the bottom...

[hoary fractal]

If K is in close comms with I and E, imagine K as a breeding center (lol Aphrodite), and I and E as testing what certain plants do to innate behaviours on specimens supplied by K.

Before I turn in for the night, I'll also call to mind the fact that we'll have tisso, neuro, and hypo variants... And the three pillars are form, consciousness, and force, which seem to match up nicely to the motifs of those variants respectively...

(Back into slipspace I go...)

[acoustic osprey]

Wouldn't really call them variants

Just so you don't mix them up with Magnas (now Os)

[still scarab]

My friend is really going isle lore crazy since I introduced him to the game lol

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/762464875166695435/1040144225272078396/image.png

The interesting thing is that some of this is starting to come together

And it’s terrifying dondi really outdid himself

[zinc narwhal]

My chart has gotten worse now-

I managed to potentially connect the [REDACTED] to the incident-

[acoustic osprey]

Tell them to ignore the menu screens

And Hope. Trailer
Especially Magna Rex call and PC

And the Matriarch photo, plus the two other images
As they're unofficial

The PI logo on the left

[zinc narwhal]

Hi, I'm said friend.

[acoustic osprey]

Hello said friend

I am here to judge you

[zinc narwhal]

I'm aware that they're unofficial, but... it's also Tapwing. This wouldn't be the first time things she made previously were canonized.

[acoustic osprey]

(my pfp is intimidating)

[acoustic osprey]

Realistically only Drone Quetz

[zinc narwhal]

Also some strain concepts.

[rustic urchin]

neuro spino

[acoustic osprey]

You able to send a higher res photo of the thing?

[rustic urchin]

the rest arent canon but i really hope most of her designs are used or based off of

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[zinc narwhal]

Hence why I included them. It's about the ideation, not official canonization. I'm just visualizing connections.

[acoustic osprey]

Fair, but just be weary

[still scarab]

Light claw remember type h quetz and Neuro spino are taps work and they’re somewhat confirmed..

[acoustic osprey]

Alfie was already mentioned years back in lore (H Quetz)

[rustic urchin]

praying for tap hyper quetz

and hyper dilo

[acoustic osprey]

All of the above

[still scarab]

It was mentioned in a loading screen

[rustic urchin]

no longer confirmed canon

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, code Alfie

All loading screens are now irrelevant now
All

Sadly

[still scarab]

Ah

Even the evrima recovery one?

[acoustic osprey]

Everything in Evrima, yeah

But from the trailers? Who knows

[still scarab]

Mk

[acoustic osprey]

Excluding hope.

[still scarab]

Yeah makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

Sadly

[still scarab]

This lore has me shook

[acoustic osprey]

Welcome to the club lol

[still scarab]

As something’s are kinda being put together

And it’s terrifying to think about

JUST NUKE THE ENTIRE ISLAND AND BE DONE WITH IT

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[rustic urchin]

jurassic park novel

[acoustic osprey]

Novels

[rustic urchin]

moral of the story: blow it up

even though in the books the dinos get to costa rica kekw

[rough heart]

so does anyone have any thoughts on "LLLRFL 12/7"? cause while im looking over the reference that's one of the most interesting parts to me

[tacit sequoia]

Wild guess, but I looked at it and imagined the second part to at least mean RFL - Refill - 11/27. So, perhaps a date that something needs maintenance?

[zinc narwhal]

12/7 is obviously a date, I would assume.
LLLRFL could be directions at intersections. (left, left, left, right, forward, left)

[zinc narwhal]

Unfortunately, it's a 40MB image

[acoustic osprey]

Rip

[acoustic osprey]

Directions or code into B

But likely something for B

[zinc narwhal]

Also interesting that the Botany facility is connected exclusively to the Behavioral Science facility.

[acoustic osprey]

Feed them some nice Hyper Drugs and see how they re-act

[shy radish]

I fixed the 2 pieces of paper togeter I question exactly what this is in lore

[edgy pike]

Is there a chance all the buildings here are in the map on release? The exteriors at least

[zinc narwhal]

That would make sense

[rustic urchin]

i doubt it but thatd be awesome

some of this stuff might be in the aviary but who knows

[acoustic osprey]

A network graphic

[acoustic osprey]

Ha, likely not.

[edgy pike]

You think the dome is any of these?

[void apex]

This was a really nice thing to wake up to

[acoustic osprey]

Aviary might be, yes

[little bridge]

Which scp file is this one

[void apex]

K seems to be about as many letters

[acoustic osprey]

921

[edgy pike]

Close proximity to H and I which are probably enclosures too, probably convenient to have them close together
(Well I is the enclosure and H viewing but it’s probably for I)

[void apex]

I do wonder why the botanic sector is so isolated from the rest

[acoustic osprey]

Big scary trees

[void apex]

That’s tree-phobic

[acoustic osprey]

but it could be that it was the only convenient placement, who knows

[void apex]

Maybe so

[little bridge]

What is errant 291?

[acoustic osprey]

who is

[rustic urchin]

well the botany likely needs sunlight right?

or i guess artificial light could work

[void apex]

It’s some form of human(oid)

[acoustic osprey]

depends

[acoustic osprey]

Likely a worker, Tribal or Eyeless

[little bridge]

How is

[acoustic osprey]

Why is

[edgy pike]

When is

[acoustic osprey]

soon

[little bridge]

Incredible

[edgy pike]

(TM)

[edgy pike]

https://tenor.com/view/honestly-quite-incredible-honestly-bird-funny-bird-gif-25631927

@acoustic osprey did your version of this document by any chance have some not blacked out text

[acoustic osprey]

Oh, my version is irrelevant

it's different in some parts
Was told to not refer to it as it's inaccurate

[edgy pike]

Ah fair enough

[still scarab]

so guys

anyone notice the possible connections between this and this https://youtu.be/WZ5zm-c8gnc?t=3091

[acoustic osprey]

The trumpet call?

[still scarab]

yeah

and the time-

its sunset when that is heard

[acoustic osprey]

Likely

[still scarab]

as much as people say the building in phase 3 looks like an aviary my theory is its the botany area

sun roof- also even for an aviary i feel its waay too big

[dusk vine]

im so happy im greek rn lol ....they are greek gods and they were used in ac odyssey in Atlantis DLC lore, a big part in ac lore...my opinion is that the isle will be a project like jurrassic park/world but have connection with Atlantis technology?

[acoustic osprey]

Oh no, Vis has stated it's an Aviary

[still scarab]

ah ok

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, although i'd like to see what Evrima's botany area will look like

[rustic urchin]

old strain plant concept is my best guess

[zinc narwhal]

This

[acoustic osprey]

Prefer not to be Atriums

As cool as the name Atriums are, it is Roman
Not Greek

[rustic urchin]

whats the greek word for atrium then lol

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, Atriums were highly used in Roman society

With or without greenery.
It has been used a fair bit in Isle's old lore

[rustic urchin]

so should a different containment method be used then?

[acoustic osprey]

Or at least, stick to one society/mythos

Albeit, Romans pretty much just said "Oh, Greek Mythos? No, Roman Mythos 🙂 "

[rustic urchin]

saturn time

[acoustic osprey]

I believe the only other Roman/Latin reference is Spiro and Spero?

I believe it was due to convenience

[rustic urchin]

would be kinda neat if the botany was like those exotic greenhouse gardens

[acoustic osprey]

literally dum spiro, spero

Spero being "To hope"

Hope.

[acoustic osprey]

Look at our cool Hyper Gardens

https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-darla-tap-glass-gif-4809756

[rustic urchin]

*building is 2000 feet tall

walk through a garden of skyscraper sized trees

that may or may not do terrible things to you

[acoustic osprey]

the whole botany section is a literal biome of itself

[rustic urchin]

would honestly be a really cool map element

walking through a fictional jungle

[acoustic osprey]

But, looking at today in #isle-phase-three
Good job Dondi and dev team

[rustic urchin]

filled with fictional plants

[acoustic osprey]

I tip my hat

[rustic urchin]

👍

[acoustic osprey]

narnia but not narnia

[still scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cowboy-snake-rango-gif-17376496

best boi ^

[acoustic osprey]

On the topic of biomes.
LOVE the contrast between the Highlands and the rest of the map

everything feels dead, dull, boring in the Highlands

[rustic urchin]

the map looks really nice

[still scarab]

jimmy don't go near that tree it'll turn you eyeless and bald

[acoustic osprey]

which is good.
Muddy river
Dead grass

[acoustic osprey]

literally everything here can kill you!

Wait a minute, that's literally Australia.

[acoustic osprey]

Original Atrium

[rustic urchin]

casual botanical garden

just a few succulents and this

[acoustic osprey]

casually have tree that is 3x higher than normal "large trees"
and takes up around 100x more space

[rustic urchin]

what could go wrong?

[acoustic osprey]

Can you imagine how much rooting a "Hyper Tree" would take?
How much nutrients it would suck LOL

[rustic urchin]

megalophobia induced gigantic room

[acoustic osprey]

I can imagine "H-Trees" literally dying and reproducing quickly

[rustic urchin]

indoor botany holding 2000 foot tall tree

[acoustic osprey]

Would love to know how big Aviary is lol

[rustic urchin]

would be cool if those trees just sucked the life out of all the plant life nearby

everything just wilts due to this tree yoinking literally all the nutrients

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/forest-trees-nature-gif-3844369

A whole dead forest than that ONE tree

[rustic urchin]

then it dies and plant life explodes

[acoustic osprey]

Just staring at you.

[acoustic osprey]

if the "Hyper Trees" could reproduce
Man. The crazy ecosystem it would produce

[acoustic osprey]

https://open.spotify.com/track/5fHgBb5r91Jmdr8Q7dwmad?si=1d539393652b4523

[rustic urchin]

i kinda hope we get that giant flower back

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[edgy pike]

If you are over 25 and have access to Olympus transmitter you MUST play this game

[acoustic osprey]

funny game called life and death

[rustic urchin]

i feel like they could really go crazy with various mutate/strain plants

just for an ambient botany jungle of weirdness

[acoustic osprey]

Man, I'm just glad we seem to be at the end/near-end of the "lore = dead" era

[rustic urchin]

yea it really seems to be back in action

[acoustic osprey]

Dead being
Just real quiet and nothing happening

[rustic urchin]

gateway itself is huge lore

[edgy pike]

Has all the juiciest locations so far

[rustic urchin]

like spiro is technically attached to lore, but its so heavily WIP that nothing on spiro rn can really be considered lore except maybe the radio tower

[acoustic osprey]

Hopium time, just want some Tribal and Gen 2 action

Crazy stuff you can really imagine

I shouldn't be using my hopium, but this P3 really hit home

[rustic urchin]

we got served good

[acoustic osprey]

very true

Time to wait again.
I presume Don will come on and off till we get more information

Sadly we're still in that timeframe where any piece of lore is going to be a very "uh, cool, but no idea what this is talking about (yet)?"

[rustic urchin]

yea

although thats a fun time, kinda like throwing darts from far off

if you miss, expected. but if you hit thats awesome

[acoustic osprey]

more likely to miss though 😎

like throwing darts from 100m

[rustic urchin]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-forklift-mike-ehrmantraut-finger-kid-named-finger-gif-26560518

[rustic urchin]

FINALLY found the other one

[still scarab]

Botany, Behavioral science, and mental body are all connected..that's not concerning c:

[rustic urchin]

has anyone done the math to see how big these trees are based off of the H spino and human

[acoustic osprey]

knowledge - transmitter

[still scarab]

yep

[rustic urchin]

so are these systems math, trees of life, or spiritual systems?

[acoustic osprey]

Although, this game has barely any ties to Buddhism
So stay weary

This game is still heavily based on Western Mythos
(Greek Mythos)

[rustic urchin]

is reincarnation buddhism?

[acoustic osprey]

It is definitely a network system

the only thing is that it excludes Olympus HQ/CC

[rustic urchin]

so math, not spirituality

so is the resemblance to the buddhist thing just a coincidence?

[still scarab]

it makes me think since neuro means brain, and ten in latin means hold which means brain hold, which could mean mind control-

[acoustic osprey]

I say it's likely a coincidence

[still scarab]

and if something neurotenic is capable of mind control it makes sense

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/2020-burn-burning-burningroom-disaster-gif-18253224

[acoustic osprey]

as the original version was pretty different in the design layout

[rustic urchin]

yea then it would be network

makes most sense

[acoustic osprey]

Neuros might likely, being named Neuros

But we do know Echidna is able to replicate the human voice
And uses it to lure people in

[acoustic osprey]

with or without mythos/religious ties, I'd say it's still a network

excluding the names

[rustic urchin]

dondi giving us math homework

[acoustic osprey]

Don't worry, Networks isn't too hard

[zinc narwhal]

It's actually Hebrew, I believe

[still scarab]

so when they say this it could be talking about echidna

[acoustic osprey]

literally star of david

[zinc narwhal]

Yup!

[acoustic osprey]

how I could I literally forget the Kabbalah

[rustic urchin]

would "they" refer to echidna or to multiple beings?

since wouldnt echidna be a she

[acoustic osprey]

Multiple beings

[still scarab]

because they say them

not her

[rustic urchin]

likely "they" is just "echidna and friends" is my bet

[acoustic osprey]

Would make comment, but could likely be banned/muted.
But you can guess, this is the 90s. They'd automatically say "She" because she acts motherly

[rustic urchin]

mother of cannibals yea, named after greek mother of monsters

[acoustic osprey]

I presume them is just to Tribals
Depending on how Echidna is with AE

not sure if AE would allow Echidna to just roam around with the Tribals

I'd imagine AE had some control over Tribals before it all happened

[rustic urchin]

tribals sounds most likely based on the structure comment too

[still scarab]

So there's a possibility since the eyeless can telepathically communicate and use so to lure people into false senses of security which why they say "do not permit them to enter. If they speak to you, do not reply."

[rustic urchin]

that part was creepy for me

"if you see any strange structures in the woods let us know because we didnt make those"

spooky thought

[acoustic osprey]

Depends on what the Eyeless are

[rustic urchin]

could possibly also literally be able to mimic human speech

[acoustic osprey]

Could likely be N-Tribals
Although I'm not sure if AE would just allow them to be roaming

[still scarab]

well we do know a key trait of neuros is sound mimicry

[acoustic osprey]

with Echidna being able to properly converse in human tongue

[rustic urchin]

ye

[acoustic osprey]

that is older stuff

[still scarab]

true true

[acoustic osprey]

all we got, for the "right now", is that Echidna can properly replicate human voices

[rustic urchin]

we know one of the sweep teams didnt make it back, so maybe AE didnt allow them to go out, just cant control them

[still scarab]

What if its tribal who have maybe gotten "infected" by whatever is causing it

[acoustic osprey]

so Eyeless/N-Tribals/Neuros would likely have a weaker version of that

[acoustic osprey]

?

[rustic urchin]

we could really use some updated info on the whole gen1 situation

tribals, eyeless, echidna, and more!

[still scarab]

well its less likely its just tribals

[acoustic osprey]

Likely something trying to protect it
Or maybe Eyeless can shape-shift?

[rustic urchin]

pick your favorite flavor of humanoid monster

[acoustic osprey]

like, 291 sounds to be pretty harmless

something had to be protecting it

[still scarab]

this is seems way too oddly specific to just be tribals

[rustic urchin]

isnt 291 a human?

[acoustic osprey]

Likely

[acoustic osprey]

too specific to be tribals?

[rustic urchin]

or i guess more specifically, a normal person lol

had an AE worker tag and a document on em, presumably scribbled on the paper, could converse properly with security

[still scarab]

well why would their only be activity during sunset with humanoids doesn't make a lot of sense

[rustic urchin]

might be best for them to come out at night

if their goal is to take advantage of humans and get in

also theyre pretty pale, possibly not adapted for daytime living

[still scarab]

What about the echo part?

[rustic urchin]

oh

[zinc narwhal]

"There should be no echo"

[rustic urchin]

that probably refers to like, 'if you hear sounds being repeated something is wrong'

[zinc narwhal]

The insanity board is coming along swimmingly

[rustic urchin]

there should not be an echo in the jungle,. if you hear an echo its not an echo, its something nasty mimicking your sounds

or possibly messing with your brain if its echidna

[still scarab]

And isn't echidna related to cannibals or eyeless?

[rustic urchin]

in some way, yes

[acoustic osprey]

PI logo

[rustic urchin]

really can only guess but considering her old title was "mother of cannibals" we can get a pretty good idea

[still scarab]

so maybe because it says them and they its multiple

[zinc narwhal]

Yup

[rustic urchin]

probably not a literal mother but some leader/queen

[acoustic osprey]

Why

[rustic urchin]

might be some hive mind situation going on, who knows

PI connection has been severed

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, (adopted) Mother of Cannibals
Cannibals being the Tribals

[still scarab]

Yep!

[zinc narwhal]

I put it with Magnatyrannus, Quetz, and Novaraptor

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-aaron-paul-jesse-pinkman-its-all-gone-gif-16474914

[acoustic osprey]

Magnas are also gone

[zinc narwhal]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rustic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/the-batman-bat-symbol-cut-electrocute-wire-gif-25438637

cutting ties

[acoustic osprey]

Back to being more original and standalone

[rustic urchin]

less 2015 lore for me to learn

[zinc narwhal]

Could always be referenced. Better to have it present imho

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

Magnas?

We know they've just been completely replaced with "Os"

[rustic urchin]

honestly nice it feels almost like a fresh start with lore, dont have to worry about that dev stream from 2017 that i didnt watch lol

[acoustic osprey]

whatever the "O" is

[acoustic osprey]

😎 🥂

[rustic urchin]

i was always worried i wasnt getting all the info since so much was out there in yt vids and streams, but turns out the amount thats actually canon is tiny rn

fresh start

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/din-din-djarin-mandalorian-mandalorian-face-pablo-gif-19627584

Glad as well.
Allows Don to restart and learn

[zinc narwhal]

If they've been replaced, then I'll keep them up for reference when the replacement is added

[acoustic osprey]

maybe it has already been added

[zinc narwhal]

Perhaps

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-stare-sesame-street-rocco-death-stare-gif-24438342

Utah

[zinc narwhal]

Omni

[rustic urchin]

type o omni

[acoustic osprey]

Omni is the type O

[rustic urchin]

observational quetz

[acoustic osprey]

Just like how Magnas replaced the prefix

[acoustic osprey]

All-Quetz

[rustic urchin]

olympic :)

[zinc narwhal]

Hence why I kept it! I have a "possible connection" line between Nova and Omni

[rustic urchin]

hank

[acoustic osprey]

I removed all ties to PC/PI and Magnas in my doc

[rustic urchin]

still annoyed i cant use stickers

https://tenor.com/view/anger-yelling-you-know-how-much-i-sacrificed-willen-dafoe-green-goblin-gif-15742158

[zinc narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/ahsoka-tano-truth-in-legends-legends-star-wars-star-wars-rebels-gif-18519412

[acoustic osprey]

for the very reason that:

I'll do you one better. I'll give you some now.

Everyone can stop trying to connect the Isle to anything outside of itself.

So I just push away things that are irrelevant

As we already know everything, more or less, has a meaning

Which likely means the Afterthought Easter Egg will be removed soon

Albeit, Don commented about that because I was talking about that Easter Egg

[rustic urchin]

thronebreaker :)

bye bye

[acoustic osprey]

Goodbye Primal references

[rustic urchin]

thronebreaker never made sense anyway since it was apparently a hyper rex nickname

even though in primal, thronebreaker was spino

so yea glad that confusing bit is gone

[acoustic osprey]

🙂

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lalo-wink-adios-lalo-salamanca-better-call-saul-gif-26070980

[edgy pike]

A mimir

[dusk vine]

yeah yesods and their theory

[silk stream]

could someone explain me what the texts sent by dondi in #isle-phase-three means?

[dusk vine]

im confused af reading this chat ...i dont know any isle lore i should study more lol....what is all that about echidnas and olympus HQ, now that i know my thought of the lore based in greek mythology is true im more curious...???

i mean i know most of the dinos names are greek and some are latin but didnt know the isle or evrima lore is based in greek mythology....if anyone wants to answer me by all means please do so cause im really curious now...

[thick stream]

there is a nice document on pinned messenges here that has collected all isle lore clues and such, as of why all the greek deity names? no clue, i guess they sound cool, the sefirot tree is new i think, seems like an amalgamation of different religions

[dusk vine]

😮 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

[dusk vine]

thanks ill check it out

[weary sundial]

Are they videos or shared documents that explain all we know about the lore yet ? I didn't dive into it until now but the mystery document Dondi gave us last night made me curious about all that

[thick stream]

https://youtu.be/dncngJKIUmE well there are some videos explaining the lore, and the dinos but it's from 4 years ago so i don't know if it's to be recomended still, i think it does state some basics though

[weary sundial]

I see, thank you !

[dusk vine]

thanks

[muted hill]

Because I saw the names hades and Poseidon I though the past about hearing noises in the jungle was somehow related to neuro strains as the 2 names are supposed to be hypers, I hadnt seen the stuff about structures and that part is really creepy to read

[thick stream]

i'm a bit confused on the correlations between the greek deities with the sefirot they are placed in, as in their attributes kind of dont fit to me

[chrome acorn]

it’s a guide to the underground tunnel system from what we can tell

The names are of different places the tunnel leads to

[hoary fractal]

I love how I post the Tree of Life all of once and it caught on so quick. lol Good stuff. Tree of life, evolution tree, et cetera...

[lost tapir]

Wouldn’t the neuros be able to mimic noises, as would troodon?

[lost tapir]

Would this potentially be in the atrium?

[rustic nexus]

Que

[hoary fractal]

Did a lot of theorizing last night. It's up there a ways.

[void apex]

As lightclaw is undeniably about to point out, everything that’s connected with PI is gone, everything primal carnage related, Magna strain related and likely a lot more is gone. No more.

Also this phase three post resparked a lot of interest in lore and I love that this channel was flooded with new people!

[rustic nexus]

I agree

[hoary fractal]

I started posting from way back here, including some theories on what the redacted lines are.

[loud pumice]

For those who want to know, I've been playing a bit with photoshop increasing the brightness of the image to see if that way I could see something of the redacted parts and well... take a look for yourselves (I've tried with the rest of the images but nothing interesting)

[keen swan]

There’s a teeny bit of exposed text

“Hard point re-established as of “ 12/8/2XXX “

Some bits are barely visible

[icy onyx]

[cedar verge]

[mystic rivet]

So it’s in the 21 st century

Bates?

[hoary fractal]

Bats...? lol

[mystic rivet]

Is there’s an E in there or no

[hoary fractal]

I don't see enough space for an E.

[loud pumice]

maybe is bars?

[hoary fractal]

Maybe an I, if there's anything at all.

Hmmm, yeah, Bars.

[mystic rivet]

yep thats bars

so he is _bars B

i think anyway

bars B

why does it underline

[hoary fractal]

Dunno, this server does weird things. lol

[mystic rivet]

anyway u get my point i hope

[hoary fractal]

Yep.

[mystic rivet]

im thinking 3 letters before bars

2 or 1 letts after the other B

[chrome acorn]

Btw could you (or anyone watching ) do the same with this?

[mystic rivet]

ye no i cant

maybe someone else can but those black things arent budging for me

[chrome acorn]

damn

[mystic rivet]

im not very good at the editing stuff tho so maybe its just me

[loud pumice]

I tried my best, but there seems to be nothing interesting.

[chrome acorn]

Damn they used the thick sharpie

[hoary fractal]

Damn paintbrush. lol

[mystic rivet]

got a bit too wild with the pen

[hoary fractal]

Two different data security officers. lol

[still scarab]

so guys i did some measuring and-

these two black bars are the same length

so they're most likely referring to k

but it gets unsettling when you put the tree of life in the picture

Daath being the transmitter

now from my understanding since neuros deal with mental stuff is they are most likely held in k

which makes sense with the uncanny ability to disrupt electronics and the telepathy

[hoary fractal]

Be mindful of that, I've seen the Tree of Life swapped in reverse numerous times... It varies.

[still scarab]

true true

[hoary fractal]

Though in that version, you're absolutely on to something.

[still scarab]

Because it seems odd that the mental body would be connected to behavioral science and botany which could bring the strain plants into involvement

[open compass]

Idk about you guys but the date for hardpoint re-established to me seems to pretty clearly have a 7 as the second to last digit

[still scarab]

12/8/21/7 something.. possibly?

[open compass]

In context it’s pretty clearly a date

[still scarab]

Oh yeah

where is there either a 1 or a 4 there..

my guess is 1 because of the bottom part

[open compass]

The second digit of the year?

Yeah maybe

[hoary fractal]

2017 or so?

[still scarab]

it could be

[open compass]

Nah, more like 2170

Where is there space for a 0 between that 2 and 1?

[still scarab]

yeah its gotta be a crazy year

LOOK GUYS THEY LEAKED WHEN THE ISLE WILL FINALLY BE FINISHED!

[hoary fractal]

XD!

[loud pumice]

LOL

[open compass]

[still scarab]

lol

So yeah me and my friend has a crazy theory that they were meddling with something they weren't supposed to most likely neuro stuff

since neuros were the first strain they conducted experiments on or at least what's mentioned on old lore I don't know how relevant it is now but it still could be true

and the fact that the mental body which could possibly have to do with neuros is tied to the behavioral science is odd..

since neuros are depicted as being smarter not to mention their telepathy and ability to disrupt electronics which correlates why they don't allow radio devices outside of the designated areas

[hoary fractal]

Voices without echo is definitely telepathy, and the idea of neuros controlling people to infiltrate is a strong one.

[still scarab]

yeah

[slow delta]

hmmm pseudolore

[still scarab]

yeeee

[rustic nexus]

Yooo thats actually crazy

Sorta like that one moment from doctor strange when wanda tricked one of the sorcerers to drop their shield

[still scarab]

and here's the thing this is common otherwise they wouldn't put such exact precautions on documents either

[rustic nexus]

But aren’t strain’s supposed to be rare

[still scarab]

not exactly

cannibals were never depicted as rare

[muted hill]

when AE was in its prime they might have been a common sight

[rustic nexus]

True that

[still scarab]

and if its neurotenic based it could have colorations to do with cannibals

especially when you consider what neurotenic means in latin

mind hold aka mind control

sooo this isn't too far off

me and my friend atleast think that whatever is trying to infiltrate is trying to get to the transmitter itself

[cinder shoal]

I thought it was saying the echo was bad? More like whatever it is was mimicking you as you spoke.

[muted hill]

iirc neuros could communicate with any species no?

[still scarab]

because the fact they disrupt electronics who's to say they aren't capable of broadcasting the entire island and heck maybe even off the island itself..

[slow delta]

Crazy theory:

this images are 2 separate papers because they don't perfectly fit back together

its a coincidence that they fit almost perfectly

[still scarab]

They are two halves of the same document

[hoary fractal]

So this incident sounds like a neuro-controlled human who was infiltrating the place, specifically traveling to a certain location (we'll have to consider its intentions), made it to a certain area before being intercepted by a trained team, then either reached a certain distance from its puppeteer or said puppeteer saw its human puppet as useless and killed him. If I recall, the neuro spino can induce lethal EM wavelengths in controlled burst, enough to stop a heart or neurological function.

[muted hill]

I could see that being true tbf becuase why have 1 torn and the other intact

[still scarab]

Rembemr the incident paper THEY said they found two halves of the document

[rustic nexus]

This is a stretch but maybe the echidna?

[cinder shoal]

Maybe, but we will need more papers to actually prove they aren’t the same.

[slow delta]

i was joking lol

[still scarab]

oooh wasn't sure lol

was gonna show yah you never know with the community man

they see an untextured square and foam from the mouth lol

[slow delta]

cool snippet but still mostly lore sauce with nothing really to go off

[rustic nexus]

Fr wonder how many brain cells some people have

[slow delta]

it's like the morse code, spooky stuff that have no meaning lol

[still scarab]

also the route code is on the paper and me and my friend found something out

while I was measuring parts of the blocked out words I found something interesting

[hoary fractal]

Yeah, one of those sections looks like it skips a zone, judging by the double arrows.

[zinc narwhal]

Hi, I'm friend

[hoary fractal]

Spider is always friend. lol

[still scarab]

yep this is my friend aqua

we both love the isle and are tryna crack the code or atleast some parts :D

and its been fun but like i was saying i found something interesting

[errant sky]

So what did u find

[hoary fractal]

Gotta go back to work, but I'll check back in a bit.

[still scarab]

mk so basically like I said I was measuring the text of blocked out words and sentences and I found something interesting

[slow delta]

i see a B and an S there but its kinda pointless

[errant sky]

Say what you found

[still scarab]

hold on grabbing the image

what discord just blocked my message ia m gonna morb!

what the heck discord!

nothing was explict-

[slow delta]

sus

[zinc narwhal]

What was it?

[slow delta]

i updated my pinned document with the new phase three stuff which isnt much but still

[still scarab]

hold on using my art program to see if that helps

these two are the exact length

lemme make it a bit more organized as the last edited version discord didn't like it lol

[slow delta]

honestly, dont bother with spacings and stuff

there are just random black blots lol

also the 2 pictures are different sizes so you'd have to shrink one to the other's size

[zinc narwhal]

They're obviously redacting something

[slow delta]

yeah but the redactions have been a long staple in isle "lore" and nothing ever came out of them

[slow delta]

in the loading screens you could count the characters

even CCH (carnage comes home) was super contested and uncertain

[still scarab]

So the closest location on the map that fits with the cardiac arrest situation is the f

although note that the text on the document and the one on the incident have two different sized fonts

but even than not of the others match up to the length

[slow delta]

and also FF should have the largest redaction since it's two characters

and yet all the Ls have different sized redactions too

[still scarab]

well the ff is because of the two >>

they all stay around the same size

[safe ravine]

Where are yall getting the 2nd F?

All I see is L L L R F L

[still scarab]

the >> on the code route

[safe ravine]

But does that mean to double the F?

[slow delta]

nothing

[zinc narwhal]

Another note:, the date on the paper is 12/7, and the date on the "hardpoint reestablished" is 12/8

[slow delta]

yea but 12/8 also has a hidden year

could 12/8/1999

[zinc narwhal]

Regardless, it's the same incident

[slow delta]

also what kind of savage doesn't use 08 when writing dates

how? 1 month apart

[still scarab]

americans lol

[slow delta]

smh my head

[zinc narwhal]

Unless it's using American dates, yeah

[slow delta]

gross

[still scarab]

pff

[zinc narwhal]

Then they're one day apart

[safe ravine]

I was gonna say, it's either 1month or one day apart

[zinc narwhal]

One month on the day is a little too exact

[safe ravine]

More likely it's Dec 7 + 8

[slow delta]

re-establishing something broken one day apart is also sus

it's too fast or too slow depending on your pov regarding mutant super dinos

[zinc narwhal]

This would also imply that AE may originate as an American company.

[safe ravine]

It's not past the realm of belief that AE could be a shady American company

[slow delta]

let me double check the old lore if there were any obvious dates

[zinc narwhal]

adds tiny American flag to the insanity board

[still scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[zinc narwhal]

For a shady secret facility that needs to be secure but secretive, I think one day is a reasonable amount of time to get something back online, so long as their other security measures remain stable

[acoustic osprey]

take it with a grain of salt

[acoustic osprey]

From the old doc that Don sent me, I'm pretty sure it's safe to assume that they're the same doc

and likely the scribbles of 291

[slow delta]

ofc it was a joke because he messed up the alignment kek

[acoustic osprey]

12/8/2014 🤯

[acoustic osprey]

it just wouldn't make sense for the transmitter being daath, when the shown network system all connects to Olympus CC

[slow delta]

https://taterfilore.wixsite.com/theisleslore/console-interaction-1

Hey guys anyone wanna transcript these, no longer canon but in case tater's website dies we wouldn't want to lose the console stream stuff

[zinc narwhal]

Mhm!

[still scarab]

well it means knowledge and the transmitter is receiving knowledge from the entire island plus possibly delivering knowledge to a location possibly off the island itself

otherwise how would the goal of mercenaries coming back to the island work if they didn't have a facility off the island as well

[acoustic osprey]

It's not that Mercs are coming back to the island

it's that genetically made Humans (Gen 2) are being sent to the island

[still scarab]

stuck there?

ahhh

that makes some sense

[acoustic osprey]

Also, I've never seen a jewish reference in Isle
So, even if it's similar to the Tree of Life, it feels more like a reference

the original document's network was very similar, but the network diagram was in a different shape

So I don't believe Don would've rushed anything like that- besides just being a nice "oh, this look like this"

[acoustic osprey]

sure

[slow delta]

based

i found an old morse translation that i forgot to add to my doc 💀

[zinc narwhal]

I wanna do the same thing. Could probably fill out the other half of the insanity chart

Maybe a corner, just thanks to decanonization

[slow delta]

ah i have a pdf with the console stream pictures, i could run it through a ocr i guess lol

and i found some old discord vc transmissions, cool

ill fix em up and put them in my doc soon

[zinc narwhal]

Oh?

[slow delta]

first there was a transmitter than joined vc and played morse, then we had another transmitter dumping text morse, and then we got the twitter transmitter

so technically lore-wise, there are at least 3 transmitters lol

[acoustic osprey]

then it went all crashing down

now there is nothing

https://tenor.com/view/lalo-wink-adios-lalo-salamanca-better-call-saul-gif-26070980

[slow delta]

15 cycles = 15 phases = 15 lore reboots confirmed?

[acoustic osprey]

🙂

[zinc narwhal]

I think there are still some scraps in there that they're absolutely taking

[acoustic osprey]

Don? Likely, more or less references.
(Look at the console HellShade sent)

[zinc narwhal]

Seeing the current narrative direction, some things have definitely changed. But that's for the better.

[acoustic osprey]

albeit, it's strange.
Refers to Tartarus
Gateway
Then saying Island 1, 2 and 3

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

So it's really good to just say, Ah yes, Legacy lore
Then walk away

Not like Legacy lore knowledge can't benefit you in any way

Just that you don't want to be confused and saying legacy lore stuff amidst a contemporary conversation

[slow delta]

the thing is most of the lore is so arbitrary and abstract that it can be reused and nothing would have to change

the most concrete thing is primal carnage but the rest is just sauce

[acoustic osprey]

excluding Magna stuff

[zinc narwhal]

Yeah, I'm gonna add a 4th tread color to differentiate connections between Legacy and Evrima content

[slow delta]

imagine you were served a plate with 1 kilogram of tomato sauce and 1 meatball. then the waiter comes and takes your meatball. the meatball was primal carnage, and the sauce is every other lore piece we had

[slow delta]

wasnt magna also de-canoned?

[acoustic osprey]

White board wiped off

unless you replace all magna stuff with "O"

[muted hill]

Would that mean techically Omniraptor was magnaraptor the entire time

[zinc narwhal]

Omnityrannus when?

[muted hill]

Or am I reading that sentence wrong

[slow delta]

ah yes omnis...

[acoustic osprey]

Got no idea if Omnis are "O"s

[muted hill]

oh right

[acoustic osprey]

But, maybe.
Same prefix scheme

[muted hill]

0h

[slow delta]

Behold the Hyper-Neuro-Tisso-Magna-Neo-Nova-Omni Tyrannus!

[acoustic osprey]

But, it could literally be that Omniraptor was made from a variety of "raptors"

[slow delta]

could be a bird too lol

they could mean modern raptors like eagles kek

[acoustic osprey]

likely

[acoustic osprey]

it's likely a guide.
But it definitely alludes to such thing

Have to question
What do the "Unbroken edges (lines)" mean?
What do the "Broken edges" mean?

are the unbroken ones GUT routes
Broken ones being just normal paths? Maintenance paths?

Your guess

not to exclude that those unbroken lines all come the very bottom

with 12 degrees (lines coming from it)
2 hitting J, one of them going to G
2 hitting L (from bottom left and right)
same with F and D

K has the same thing with J, but with 3
One going to H and I

Two hitting I, one to E

[chrome acorn]

they all connect at the same bottom area with the blacked out designation

Whatever that curve is supposed to be

Might be a power source?

[safe ravine]

maybe it's because I'm taking a data &networking class, but its a very basic blueprint for a type network essentially. Maybe not specifically computers, more likely facilities within the GUTS

[acoustic osprey]

Search up Lightclaw

[acoustic osprey]

Put down "networks"

[safe ravine]

I mentioned it last night also

[sullen gulch]

What is this?

[acoustic osprey]

Me too 😠

[safe ravine]

a glance reference blueprint of the relationship between facilities in the GUTS

[acoustic osprey]

Albeit, I don't think it's facilities within the GUTS

But more so the edges connecting the vertices are likely connected through the GUTS

[safe ravine]

or so we're guessing

[sullen gulch]

Ah thanks

[acoustic osprey]

I don't think a transmitter would be underground, honestly

[acoustic osprey]

With some scribbles, likely from 291

[safe ravine]

maybe the GUTS are only the tunnels between the facilities

[acoustic osprey]

That is what I've been thinking

[safe ravine]

and not all facilities have to be underground

[acoustic osprey]

GUTS being a generic underground transport system

[sullen gulch]

Bdw what do you guys know about the isle lore?

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, just having an elevator or lift

[safe ravine]

everything is in the pins for this channel

but I think the doc shows more of the relationship between different areas, like there isn't a direct path from A to J, you have to pass through different areas

[sullen gulch]

👍

[acoustic osprey]

it could be, or that (like the London Tube Map)
Just a simple network graph

to which GUTS/trails connect with

I mean then, why not just create an actual map?
If you just want a simple abstract, especially for something like a monorail, then creating a network makes sense

[safe ravine]

I wouldn't know we don't have fancy train maps in the US

here's something interesting
"A solid line indicates that the connection is UP. A dotted line indicates that the connection is DOWN."
This is for networking though so it may not be relevant to the doc

[hollow sinew]

Wait wait wait so what does GUTS stand for again??

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

Could be Tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

No official name, but Don calls it "Generic Underground Transport System"

[safe ravine]

has anyone else said that R/D probably stands for research/development? A quick google search was behind that discovery

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

I assumed it was

[hollow sinew]

OHHH now i remember, okay thank you!

[acoustic osprey]

No worries

[safe ravine]

so the olympus central control is furthest away from F,J,K,L which are the R/D areas, but they are closest to whatever is blacked out at the bottom.

also the circles are pretty clearly labeled outside of the R/D ones so they're definitely "facilities"

[zinc narwhal]

So the rail system we see in the Phase 3 images?

[acoustic osprey]

One part of it

And you can just notice the tunnel into GUTS as well

[zinc narwhal]

Ooh

[void apex]

so this... "Bates" character won't reappear

[acoustic osprey]

Bates?

[void apex]

or at least hasn't been written in anything again

the character who submitted the report

[acoustic osprey]

ERRANT-291

[void apex]

Submitted, not was the subject of

[acoustic osprey]

Likely won't get another appearance, yeah

[void apex]

Bates

[safe ravine]

ok that's not fair I did that and got nothing what filters did you use?

[open compass]

Pretty sure that says BARS

The font is Special Elite

[safe ravine]

it looks like BARS ya

[void apex]

Ah, Bars

anyways, what my point was is that we likely won't have to look out for them any more

[acoustic osprey]

This?

[void apex]

unless Dondi sees this and thinks "Hey, I'll show them"

(please do by the way if you see this)

[void apex]

yup

[acoustic osprey]

If you're getting the name off the filed by, that's not the same guy

[open compass]

I mean, I don't see why they wouldn't show up again

[acoustic osprey]

Unless you want to see who filed the report again

[void apex]

Because Dondi so far hasn't written any character in more than one singular report

Lightclaw you have the quote laying about, right?

[open compass]

Sure, from what we know they don't seem important but we also don't know enough to say they aren't important

[open compass]

Ah

Then yes

[void apex]

Although he might write more

although one thing I am very curious about is how many are on site

because I don't think we can calculate that with any of our current information

how many personel worked on the islands?

I do also wonder where they all live

[safe ravine]

would be kinda funny if there was a reoccurring character who was just constantly involved because of pure wrong place wrong time. "And this time Joe was in the middle of a pool game when specimen-73 breached the rec room before being neutralized and detained"

[void apex]

This joe fella has been around 13 anomalous reports in a row, seems fishy

[safe ravine]

not all genetic experiments have to be evil monsters of destruction and death

[void apex]

well yeah, I know that

but the islands seem to be mostly inhabbited by animals

with fenced off enclosures for the humans, rather than vice versa

the humans are the one who have to somehow live on all this limited area

and I am wondering how many they can realistically fit

without violating osha regulations with living space

[safe ravine]

it definitely appears that way, like a giant dangerous zoo but also a research lab

[safe ravine]

they don't even have airlocks I doubt they're following OSHA

[void apex]

airlocks?

[acoustic osprey]

Everything's better underground

[void apex]

except vitamin D

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Although that was a Ben Folds reference

[void apex]

Ben Folds?

[acoustic osprey]

We need to have a proper understanding of how areas, such as K15, were protected

[void apex]

didn't they mention K2 in this thing?

[acoustic osprey]

https://youtu.be/jqADHn7SWlA

[safe ravine]

basically, a secure neutral zone between entry points of an area. There's a locked door, then the small airlock room, then another locked door. Very common in zoos and stuff where you don't want the things inside the exhibit to get outside the exhibit

[void apex]

these guys aren't legally considered an animal, I doubt they are legally anything at all. I don't think they'd actually need anything like that

unless on the off chance they care about safety

[safe ravine]

if they care about safety they would have it exactly

[acoustic osprey]

Don't think so

[open compass]

Based on the brightened incident report, the current isle takes place 150 years in the future

Which kinda makes sense given what AE is able to do

[acoustic osprey]

Which also doesn't make sense

[void apex]

yeah the isle is not taking place 150 years in the future

[safe ravine]

that's alot further than the original 2030

[acoustic osprey]

Because Don said it's taking place in contemporary times

[safe ravine]

waaaaaayyyy back in the so early lore days that none of it is probably even relevant

[acoustic osprey]

With AE's activity being in the 90s

[void apex]

judging by the buildings the island was inhabbited by AE in the 80's and 90's

those structures would have fallen

if they'd be left alone for 80 years

[safe ravine]

unless AE had a thing for 90's aesthetic ya

[void apex]

noone to do maintenance

[acoustic osprey]

But then why old PCs

[open compass]

So why write a wrong year on the document instead of just going with the contemporary date

[acoustic osprey]

And old tech in general

[acoustic osprey]

But be seeing some mad distortion with the font

[void apex]

I mean, it wouldn't explain why there's more than the date plucked away with the marker

why would there be more darkened off than needed

[safe ravine]

it does look like a 1 between the 2 and 7 though

and the last part matches the 2, so 2172 does seem to be what's there that we can see

[open compass]

Could just be overshooting with the marker

[void apex]

I think the thing we see as a 7 isn't an actual 7

[open compass]

Beyond the obvious marker I don't see what distortion you're talking about

[void apex]

it doesn't line up

[open compass]

The font's 1:1 with Special Elite

[void apex]

yes

but it is too high up, 2 pixels too high

[safe ravine]

how would a 5 or 9 match up with it?

[acoustic osprey]

Does the font have 1 higher than 2?

[open compass]

Yeah

[void apex]

dunno

[open compass]

pretty obvious in the 291

[safe ravine]

ya a 9 wouldn't matchhold on

[void apex]

same pixel height

the thing we see as a 7

is too high up

[open compass]

You cut it off so tight in that screenshot

[void apex]

I cut it off exactly where it should end

[safe ravine]

cut off the top in that close up screen ya

[open compass]

I meant vertically

[safe ravine]

if you want my guess it could be 21928 or 21728

[void apex]

vertically?

[barren lodge]

Could each ENTRY be a form of entering the island? not a structure?

Like Poseidon is dockyard?

[open compass]

The 7 ha a pretty clear base

[safe ravine]

potentially

[barren lodge]

Zeus is radio and helipad

hades is ?

[void apex]

red little line is where the top of the number should be

[barren lodge]

still wouldn't explain Aviary

[open compass]

At the bottom

[safe ravine]

probably an underground entrance, zeus = sky, poseidon = sea

[void apex]

it would be logical with GUTS entry, but the subject was found entering the guts via the zeus entry iirc?

[barren lodge]

12/8/217 ?

[open compass]

2172, you can see the bottom of the 2 through the marker

[void apex]

too far down I think, although I don't know the font that well

[muted hill]

Oh wait the greek names are now locations not code names for strain specimens?

[acoustic osprey]

No, we don't know

[barren lodge]

yeah as a easy way of defining them for players Im guessing

[open compass]

Go look up special elite, the 7 dips that far

[acoustic osprey]

They're entrances, so likely three different entrance points into Olympus CC

[muted hill]

Oh right, because Poseidon and hades prevously were the hyper spino and carnotaur code names iirc

[void apex]

you are right

[safe ravine]

yo that 4 is pretty low, I was thinking maybe a 4, now that I'm seeing it

definitely a possibility

2174

[open compass]

Doesn't match when I overlayed it

[safe ravine]

it does make the most sense to say "150 years in the future" 2172

[barren lodge]

what about a letter?

[void apex]

if it was a 7 it would be lower down

like, there is a large white gap where there would have been ink

unless they indeed put the 7 randomly higher up

[open compass]

The 7 is just big in the font

[barren lodge]

it matches with the 2 at the beginning

[open compass]

It still lines up at the top

[void apex]

yes I know, but I am overlaying

[safe ravine]

if it was done with a type writer, the margins may not be 100% accurate

and since they seem to really like 80's & 90's tech

[void apex]

actually, no, you're right!

[safe ravine]

that's not too far fetched to think reports could have been written with a type writer

[void apex]

the 7 is for some ungodly reason 2 pixels taller and 2 pixels shorter than all other numbers for no understandable reason

[open compass]

Yup

[void apex]

Hardpoint re-established as of 12/8/2172__
Hmmm

it is supposed to be a date

[safe ravine]

try an 8

[void apex]

I mean an 8 could exist there at the end

too much dark for us to see

[safe ravine]

it's one of the letters that would allow that little space of white near the top

[open compass]

Idk if there's anything there at the end, earlier depictions of the date end it after the 2

[void apex]

neither do I

but it would not make sense for them to be this far in the future

[safe ravine]

it's pretty obviously a date, but remember the isle is on Earth(?)

[open compass]

Like here

[safe ravine]

so maybe 2172 is the 90's for them

[void apex]

Hmm

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-better-call-saul-gus-fring-gus-gustavo-fring-gif-26495658

[void apex]

but uhh

[acoustic osprey]

It'd be a disappointment if they set it that far forward

And said "this is the 90s for them"

[void apex]

yeah

[acoustic osprey]

We can only confirm this IF we get another incident report with the same/similar date structure

[open compass]

I guess? Seems like a pretty straightforward thing to me, at least for what the year on the paper is

[void apex]

this is a date

the blocket out thing here

[open compass]

Yes, and it appears to be the same except for the day maybe

[void apex]

and it does undeniably say 12/X/217X

[safe ravine]

the days as far as what's written are 12/7 and 12/8