isle-lore-theories

[tender shard]

How much confusion because of this cyber/mecha/robo quetz.

Judging by the reactor, its mechanical parts are quite technologically advanced, even considering that AE (as far as I know) was active in scientific activity until + -2010, but this piece shows that it is radio controled

It may not be a remote control, but something like a neural activity meter

[sharp knoll]

Maybe just to check the radiation source

[tender shard]

well yes,I somehow overdid it xd

[sharp knoll]

lol

[edgy pike]

I mean it’s not that outlandish seeing as that controller has an antennae and the Quetz has one sticking out it’s head

[void apex]

I mean, fair enough actually ¯_(ツ)_/¯

radiation meters aren't known to have antennae

The Quetzalcoatlus is however at a completely neutral position

which means it is likely in a dormant state, it is very possible that that is indeed a controller/commander for the drone quetz

although going by the idea that this is indeed the 1980's - 1990's... idk

[edgy pike]

I thought isle was set post-2020 years

[void apex]

it is set in that time

but AE was active on the islands during the 80's - 90's

[edgy pike]

Ahh ok

[void apex]

the game takes place in 20## however

[edgy pike]

So thing went bad in the 90s and we play the game in the aftermath decades later?

[void apex]

yup

There's tonnes of speculation of what drove AE off the island

[edgy pike]

Was there any confirmed dates or was that done by looking at the weathering on buildings and stuff

[void apex]

everything from Hypo outbreaks (unlikely) to a gen1 uprising thing

[void apex]

Not as of now

[edgy pike]

Just gotta wait for more then

[void apex]

indeed

[regal locust]

I'm honestly willing to say that the hazmat suits aren't there particularly for the observational Quetz?

Maybe they're there simply because the facility, or atrium, may have had a nuclear reactor or some sort of nuclear battery stored there? That, due to being abandoned, has caused radiation to leak etc.

[void apex]

That's an equally valid theory tbh

[edgy pike]

I guess there's no reason not to consider that concept is taking place during gameplay time period and those are humans who've found all the stuff there

Seeing as everything else in the concept art pieces is during "modern" settings

[acoustic osprey]

We know now that Strains were made for medicinal reasons

Unless Echidna was made after for your reason

[regal locust]

Did we ever get a strict confirmation that they're entirely fabricated by AE?

[acoustic osprey]

Just that they were made for medicinal reasons originally

So no. But, it's either them or Phoenix

[regal locust]

Are you sure it wasn't that they were used for medicine?

There's an important distinction to be made there.

[acoustic osprey]

Well, this is going off Don's statement of Dalt's theory.
"A shot in the dark that actually hit the target"

Dalt saying:
Hyperendocrines are likely created to test out medicine
Neurotonics and Tissos were likely created for the same reason

H-colossus might have been a test on a human or tribal
However, the rude awakening of the abrupt changes in metabolism left them dubious and useless
Increased healing factor, strength, power and size might seem tempting at first
but you gotta eat high calorie food, and lots of it
hypers starve within a day or so
and the mutations work more like tumours or disease rather than a compliment to their life styles
whereas yes, the H-giga gets an increased surface area bite where it maximises bleed... it also has to physically dislocate its jaws to do so which puts it in great physical pain

likely that AE's test of playing God with Gen 2, was likely the similar motif with this too.
Just all wrapped up as either Medicine as the subtext or as the facade

[regal locust]

Right right.

[acoustic osprey]

so yeah

All that is going off roughly from what Dalt said
It wasn't completely "All correct, good job MattDaltPat"

but we can roughly put together what they were made for

that being "for medicinal reasons"

[acoustic osprey]

No
But looking at the actual technology used.

The "main" events seemed to have occurred during the 90s/80s.
And if you observe the weathering, especially from the devblogs, is definately 10+ or more
In terms of "When WE are playing"

[edgy pike]

if we're taking PC lore into account that puts the events of PC and TI all quite close together

[true osprey]

so this entire thing about how the mutations are somewhat useful but cause great pain to the user and have a higher metabolism reminds me of a certain monster from another series.

wonder if it was inspired from that particular ogranism.

[edgy pike]

i feel like it might be more a case of the experiments/shenanigans happening for so long that there's a whole big mix of technology on the islands, old monitors that they couldnt be bothered to replace and giant vat tubes that can grow embryos in the same room, on top of possible consciousness transfer and all sorts

its a similar sort of deal in primal carnage just from looking around the maps

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[light flare]

It reminds me of portable diagnostic computers that mechanics use.

[light flare]

Crazy idea, but: That Quetz looks like it's had a lot of its innards hollowed out as well. Its beak and head appear to have been replaced completely while its neck and torso seem to have ribbing. I kinda wonder if that Cyber-Quetz is actually just a giant syringe that researchers use to administer materials to loose dinos. It stabs them with its beak and inside there's a big ol' needle full of whatever nasty stuff they want to innoculate a target with.

[strange shell]

I don't see in what context you would need a syringe that big and unwieldy
A robot pterodactylus could do the job way better

[light flare]

Too small to carry the weight and still fly.

[strange shell]

Carry what weight ?

[light flare]

The harness around the Quetz's torso and the mechanical components inside its head are probably made from metal and whatever electronic components they're using in it probably aren't light either.

[strange shell]

There are drones made of metal

Planes and helicopters too

[light flare]

The point I'm trying to make is that the Quetz -is- a drone.

[strange shell]

Yes but probably not a syringe, because it would be impractical

[light flare]

What are they gonna send to administer or retrieve samples? A bunch of guys in a jeep?

[strange shell]

smaller drones

[edgy pike]

helicopter 👍

[strange shell]

A helicopter is actually smaller than a quetz, so it counts

[light flare]

You ever see those videos of hawks attacking drones? Yeah.

[strange shell]

Not like a robo quetz would be impervious to dino attacks either

[light flare]

Helicopter's too loud and conspicuous.

[strange shell]

But if its goal is to administer serums or whatever, how is it gonna do so on anything smaller than a rex ithout killing it ?

[light flare]

It can defend itself, which is more than a quadcopter can say.

[strange shell]

Depends if it's armed or not

[light flare]

Might not be intended for anything smaller than an apex. Man-sized creatures just need man-sized syringes. Rex-sized creatures need Rex-sized syringes.

[strange shell]

But a quetz is still overkill tho
Why not just take a chopper and shoot it with a dart gun ?

Wait chopper is a military helicopter right ? I just mean helicopter

[light flare]

Whatever you can shove in a dart gun isn't going to be carrying enough material. It'd be like if I tried to administer drugs to you in a hospital with a little baby needle.

Weight/Mass = Very important for biological materials, especially medical

[strange shell]

Depends on what you wanna inject, but usually the needed doses are tiny when compared to an animal's mass
The only case where you would need a recipient the size of a quetz's head would be to tranq king kong

[light flare]

hyperendocrine colossus, anybody?

[strange shell]

So they would have created a robot quetz for the sole purpose of administering chemicals to a hyperendocrine colossus ?

[light flare]

now you're just misrepresenting my point

the colossus isn't the only huge creature on the island

furthermore, drones and helicopters are probably going to be attacked by wild Quetz. What's a good way to prevent that from happening? Take a Quetz and rig it up with bionic prostheses.

[strange shell]

I think that anyway, if they wanted to administer things on their giant mutated killing machines, they would have done so BEFORE the things got out of control and went ravaging the island
Unless the quetz is carrying poison to kill them, in which case again, you don't need something as big as a quetz

[light flare]

That's assuming the dinosaurs weren't meant to be free-roaming in the first place.

You can't study an organism in any meaningful way if it's always enclosed.

[strange shell]

Most of them definitely were
There are clear implications in the island architecture that it's been made to allow the dinos to free roam to a certain extent

But the hypers most likely weren't supposed to go out of their labs at all

[light flare]

When or if they did get out you'd need something to take them down without blowing them to pieces. Enter Cyber-Quetz.

[strange shell]

I think that as soon as hypers were out of containment there was no longer anyone from AE on the island
And if there were still any, they were probably more concerned about living this hellhole rather than building mechas to fight their rogue kaijus

[light flare]

"mecha" is a little unfairly dismissive, it's an oversized tranq dart not a gundam

[strange shell]

It has more in common to a gundam than to a tranq dart :
-Impossible with current tech
-Made to look like a living thing (somewhat)
-The worst strategic choice one can ever make
-Cool robot !

[light flare]

Most od the things in this game are impossible with current tech fam

[strange shell]

That's not my point
I'm explaining how cyber-quetz is more similar to a gundam than to a syringe

[light flare]

A gundam is a giant bipedal robot the size of a skyscraper and defies the laws of physics.

[strange shell]

Not necessarily but yeah
That's still beyong the point. Besides, you're the one who mentioned gundams first. The word I used was "mecha", which is much more vast.

[light flare]

Even that is inaccurate. Cyborg would be appropriate.

[strange shell]

Well we don't know if that quetz has any flesh on it, or is made only out of synthetic materials to ressemble a quetz

[light flare]

What remains of its beak and wing flesh dont appear to be textured differently from its wild counterpart in the art

[narrow vigil]

Could robo quetz be militarizarion program similar to jurassic world laser designated raptors?

[light flare]

Weaponization is humanity's specialty, but what could it do for a military that an rifleman or a jet can't?

[narrow vigil]

that is the thing i was thinking about in jw where raptor was essentially 30 million attack dog.

As quetz i dunno? maybe flying surveillance that can also go take a look at ground level or hide from enemy amongs foliage. Also being mainly organoc would give small radar cross section.

I could also see same version of deinosuchus used in similar way as the military trained dolphins, but these apply better to stuff with special locomotion. When we start getting to therapods of varying sizes this explanation becomes worse and worse

[rapid chasm]

drone

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/view/ninja-gaiden-foster-you-know-cia-evil-gif-23009973

[oblique surge]

OOOOOOOOO
🚨 DONDI GIF DONDI GIF 🚨

@acoustic osprey look!

[sharp knoll]

Is just a GIF

[oblique surge]

I was just making a joke on how dondi loves using cryptic gifs to respond to lore stuff

[sharp knoll]

lol

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/vip-top-gun-tom-cruise-its-classified-gif-5436361

[light flare]

🤔

[acoustic osprey]

Serve as uninterrupted surveillance

[exotic jacinth]

Lore

[kind sandal]

So, I'm a huge lore fanatic about games that I play. But The Isle isn't a very open-handed game when it comes to its lore other than giving the vibe of: "Humans did something similar to Jurassic Park / World."

So the question is... what do we know, if anything at all?

[acoustic osprey]

Go to the two documents in the pinned messages

[icy onyx]

Dondi stop breaking the poor peoples minds!

[pseudo fable]

Sorry.

[icy onyx]

You are fogiven :)

I still can’t over your pfp lmfao

[loud gate]

He shouldn’t change it

It’s perfect

[icy onyx]

Ik

It’s gold

Anyway I have a theory that there are robotics in the game right now like robo dryos and Pteras

[loud gate]

[light flare]

don't worry my brain is made of mush it doesn't break it just compresses

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[kind sandal]

I've read through every single doc.
My brain is now literal soup.

[loud gate]

Sorry

[kind sandal]

I feel like I know a lot more now.
While at the same time knowing a whole lot less.

[acoustic osprey]

Welcome

And now PC is irrelevant

Gone

[nocturne cosmos]

welcome to lore is now no longer a thing

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[loud gate]

I bet it will change again in few months

[acoustic osprey]

Likely not

[nocturne cosmos]

our lore is being taken away as we speak

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and more to come

[loud gate]

[acoustic osprey]

Transmissions
PC

What next? Lightclaw

[nocturne cosmos]

he blocks you from entering this chat

[loud gate]

You will be banned

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

^ pretty much

[loud gate]

https://tenor.com/view/daredevil-netflix-sad-crying-gif-4087182

[acoustic osprey]

[edgy pike]

No more PC

[acoustic osprey]

Gone

[nocturne cosmos]

say bye bye to half the lore we did have

[acoustic osprey]

PC
No more PI

Gone

All poof

[oblique surge]

I will do my best sir!

[acoustic osprey]

Great job Joa

[kind sandal]

I liked the transmissions ._.

[acoustic osprey]

Gone for ages now

[nocturne cosmos]

we losing all the cool stuff

[exotic jacinth]

Lore

[edgy pike]

I mean we’re pretty much at square one now lmao

No more Lawrence Carter stuff, Phoenix stuff, operation inferno

[loud gate]

[edgy pike]

the primal carnage rex roar at the end of the Hope trailer

[acoustic osprey]

No longer need to care

Alongside the Phoenix International logo

[tranquil galleon]

the surveillance quetz is probably just for surveillance of the skies of the island

since drones would likely be damaged and destroyed by the wildlife and ground based cameras would likely catch few glimpses of the aerial fauna besides when they land and of course they would be very limited in number
the quetz is presumably the king of the skies so there's little risk of it being taken down by other wildlife

[sharp knoll]

AE X UC

[exotic jacinth]

Lore

[edgy pike]

Primal carnage Genesis real

[acoustic osprey]

Gone

No more primal carnage

Need automod to remove all mentions of anything linked with it

[sharp knoll]

Well yeah it actually didn't go really well...

But it was interesting and kinda fun

[acoustic osprey]

Sometimes

[edgy pike]

Hope we at least still keep magna rex

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/top-gun-tom-cruise-maverick-i-could-tell-you-but-then-id-have-to-kill-you-gif-5103128

[regal locust]

Honestly, I'd like to think about it more positively?

Alot of things that we have nowdays, post recode, have been very standalone? For instance what AE is, what the strains were made for, etc etc.

It just means that things like Magnatyrannus Solus potentially have very different origins than we previously thought.

[acoustic osprey]

Excluding hope, yes

[regal locust]

You're referring to the "better tomorrow" reference right?

[edgy pike]

The “carnage comes home”

[regal locust]

Could just chalk it up to a reference and that's that.

[acoustic osprey]

PI logo and PC Rex call

[edgy pike]

Bit too on the nose to be a reference

[regal locust]

Oh, that. Sorry. I could've sworn it had that "better tomorrow" image.

Oh wow, yeah those're multiple references.

[acoustic osprey]

I believe that was during late 2019 anyways

[regal locust]

I'm gonna give it a quick rewatch.

[acoustic osprey]

The better tomorrow one

[acoustic osprey]

End has it

[regal locust]

Plus the references to Pheonix international.

Ah, here we go. So yeah, it's literally all of the above.

We could just chalk it up to a retcon then.

[edgy pike]

So it seems

F

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

Retcon gone

[acoustic osprey]

Oh, then two PI logo references them.

Forgot

[regal locust]

Oh, I think I used retcon the wrong way there.

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[gentle vessel]

Not like what’s in a trailer should matter for lore

Especially a trailer made before they decided to overhaul the lore I’m guessing

[acoustic osprey]

Well no

Seeing as that was the time of confirmation for Evrima too

Whatever was showed lore-wise was considered pretty canon

Although, lack of references afterwards would obviously back it down

[regal locust]

I seriously wish I could've asked Don about this:

[acoustic osprey]

He was busy and had stuff on during June

So, nothing did come when I tried

[regal locust]

[acoustic osprey]

^ pretty much

[ruby geyser]

@acoustic osprey

[mystic rivet]

He’s very good at answering questions I think

[regal locust]

Both O-variants and Omniraptors aren't strains. I didn't think it was that hard to understand what he meant.

[chrome acorn]

if the quetz in the art is an O variant then it wouldn’t be a strain anyways as it’s robotic

[sharp knoll]

I don't think so Drone Quetz is the O variant plus not a strain

[regal locust]

I have no clue if the spycam Quetz is actually a O-variant. It could be an anagram for "Obsverational-Quetz" but it also might be something completely different. Especially when in one of the only instances we've heard of it, it was compared to a M-variant or Magna variant.

[chrome acorn]

Greater than M variants no less

[regal locust]

That also could just be his opinion. If it does stand for Observational Quetz then he might just like the cybernetic zombie Quetz compared to a dialed up Quetz.

[chrome acorn]

could be lots of things

[edgy pike]

I guess we know what was binned now

[chrome acorn]

could mean magnas are being replaced with these terminator esc O variants

or could just be that he thinks they’re cooler

[regal locust]

Replaced implies that they're not going to be a thing.

If you make a comparison, both things have to be present.

[chrome acorn]

Can still be present in lore and replaced in lore

[regal locust]

That's fair.

[chrome acorn]

not a deletion of their existence

i don’t actually remember the last thing we heard on M variants

[regal locust]

This is the only thing I remember.

[chrome acorn]

oh joy more things to ask don about

i do hope type M’s aren’t scrapped I liked the idea of a more refined super predator

[regal locust]

I like them simply because it's a reward that seems to be much more long lasting than something like the strains. Where you get a considerable power increase, probably to the point where you're essentially a permanent elder, and a potentially fun gimmick while not being anywhere near the power level of the three two strains.

And looking at it from a lore perspective, it's cool if it's the result of a "happy ending" where it's a successful attempt at making a perfected organism.

[ruby geyser]

Yep. Though, unfortunately, we still can’t be 100% sure that Omniraptor is an O-variant.

[regal locust]

For sure.

[ruby geyser]

I’d say it’s fairly likely though.

[ruby geyser]

Two? Tissos are still confirmed

[regal locust]

They are?

[ruby geyser]

Yeah 1 sec

[regal locust]

Last I heard they weren't necessarily deconfirmed but up in the air.

[ruby geyser]

He meant to reply to the first message here, but his discord was being wonky

[fringe marsh]

To my knowledge, tisso was always speculated to be a strain which housed concepts of agility, poison, venom, and quills.

[chrome acorn]

Camouflage

[regal locust]

Oh right, thanks! I didn't see this.

[rustic urchin]

hes gone

[regal locust]

I'll miss you. He's MIA forever.

[sharp knoll]

No Alfie

[rustic urchin]

he will always be mia in our hearts

[sharp knoll]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

I'll update the doc as soon as I finish my week's worth of theatre work

[acoustic osprey]

Magna Variant
Omni variant

[sick mesa]

What is everything we know about the neurotenic mastermind and hyper colossus?

[acoustic osprey]

That They're back

And that Echidna is a carrier of sorts

[pseudo fable]

||Good catch btw. Proud of you.||

[quartz sundial]

lightclaw did it

wahoooo

[acoustic osprey]

Thank you

Only took around a month

[green swan]

The only thing I know about the lore is that dinosaurs escaped 👍🏻

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

[loud gate]

I know a bit about lore

But not enough

[hexed flax]

I knew it. Wouldn't have made any sense otherwise

[fervent vessel]

[acoustic osprey]

Because variant

[exotic jacinth]

Lore

[coarse tapir]

Lore

[severe raft]

Lore

[nocturne cosmos]

Isle lore update when?

[loud gate]

Why blood

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[loud gate]

Oh nvm

I see claws

[sage cedar]

We were made by the blood

[pallid drift]

Anyone else think it’s strange humans are trying use a Quetz as a drone in the new concept art?

[old stone]

I actually have a theory about that

What if they're using a quetz drone in order to actually be able to survey the island without something else noticing something afoot? (The replicator, or perhaps some other unknown entity)

[icy onyx]

interesting theory, was still trying to figure out why humans would want to use a quetz drone for surveillance
its pretty exciting to think about in terms of human gameplay and how its going to be used (maybe to even spy on other human factions or dinosaurs)

[acoustic osprey]

No

[acoustic osprey]

It's pretty obvious AE are highly surveying Spiro (and maybe even Gateway)

With or without that concept art

We see it with new and old lore

Like with the trail cams, etc

So AE using robotics with dead animals for surveillance? Possible, but for what specific reasons?

Other than being more durable

[old stone]

My theory is that they want to survey the island without something present in the island knowing

[acoustic osprey]

Will have a look at what Don showed
As of course, recorded it

Although, I've seen a lot of the map already before.
This has better lighting

[icy onyx]

@tronk#7033

[acoustic osprey]

So, to what I'm allowed to say because I can't show.
There seems to be a fenced off enclosure? (The area with the cycads) with the "Hyper Fence"

[void apex]

not allowed to show?

[acoustic osprey]

Not allowed to show the VOD without Don's permission

[void apex]

But would I be allowed to send screenshots of it or will I be crucified?

[acoustic osprey]

Not sure, asked Punch. He said wait till Don replies back

[void apex]

Because I know goosebumper took a screenshot of the gate that I could post here, but yeah. It is better safe than sorry.

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[void apex]

But by the looks of it, it is about 10 - 15 meters tall ish

with steel bars and a very heavy gate

[acoustic osprey]

The Hyper Gate/Fence?

[void apex]

yeah

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, it's pretty big.
Although we've seen this from old streams- just not the "gate" version of it
Cool enough

[void apex]

It does line up pretty well with the very old concept arts for it, with the orange/bronze looking undertones or however you say it in English

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[void apex]

It does look very nice

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, and it's still within the "Art-style" of the dam

[void apex]

Yup

[acoustic osprey]

Man.

And the new "tall trees" (Redwood-esque) seem to be there too

[void apex]

Actually, are we sure that this is a dam?

[acoustic osprey]

definitely not Redwoods.
But they're with the cycads

[acoustic osprey]

Well, I was going about the dam at Spiro
But that could be

[void apex]

it really just looks like they took a fence and put it in the water

[minor lava]

yeah but then behind it there is a ravine, which a river could flow through

[acoustic osprey]

or would've

[minor lava]

yeah

[loud gate]

Fan art?

[void apex]

Old concept art

[acoustic osprey]

^ very old

[icy onyx]

What if the isles dinos were made by the government for the humans to study behaviors

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't say government

[ruby geyser]

?

[icy onyx]

I'm real dryo

[sharp knoll]

#offtopic-discussion

[bold crater]

Late response, but I accidentally clicked this channel, saw this comment, and wanted to say that would be incredibly ominous. Like what the heck could they wanna hide from.....besides dinos n' such 😛

[old stone]

Replicator would be my guess

[acoustic osprey]

I do wonder HOW The Replicator was made

That would play a lot in how AE interacts with Spiro and other islands

[old stone]

What if it was replicated?

[acoustic osprey]

Hmm

[rustic halo]

Genuinely maybe Aliens. Earth(?)

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

[exotic jacinth]

Lore

[chrome acorn]

How large is the enclosure? If you can say

[void apex]

The entire enclosure or the fence itself?

[chrome acorn]

the enclosure if you had to guess

like does it look like it’s meant for one animal/specimen or multiple

[void apex]

I mean, it looks like it goes around the entire island basically

[chrome acorn]

oh

hmm

So like a research preserve basically

I wonder what the layout is

[lone iron]

Hmmm

[maiden sundial]

The tribals

Aka the perfect human clones the machine made

[shell remnant]

maybe an ancient/alien artifact of some sort? idk

[acoustic osprey]

I'd say, from looking, maybe around ~1k^2 - 500m^2

[acoustic osprey]

AE made*

Unless that's changing
But I hope it doesn't, really hope it doesn't

[maiden sundial]

Ah

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe.
I'm saying it's a rough bet to say either ONE whole enclosure (I had a small theory using one of Dash's maps) a few months ago

OR

Several in the one island

[chrome acorn]

Are any of the human outposts/bases in the enclosed areas or are they all outside of these areas

[acoustic osprey]

Some, on Spiro, were fenced off with pretty pathetic metal fences
But are mostly broken

and very small

nothing like what we've seen officially

We've only seen this fence once on Spiro (The big one)
Which was in Evrima for only one hotfix apparently

[light flare]

A bioweapon that covers itself up maybe. Somebody sees a Quetz circling a point of interest? Might as well be a UFO. One comes flying over a ridge and spears an insurgent? Nobody believes his friends. Put a bomb on it for good measure so if it dies there's no evidence.

But then drones can do half of that.

It could also act as a command and control unit. That antenna in its head can communicate wirelessly.

[rustic nexus]

What is the perfect human, from what we’ve seen so far all these guys can do what a trained athletic human can

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bwc4g.gif

[acoustic osprey]

[rustic nexus]

Uh oh

[acoustic osprey]

Trained

Or just genetically made to be

[oblique surge]

The best athlete in the world is probably the best they could managed without altering their genes too much/without using the strains

[acoustic osprey]

True

Noting that Gen 2 is still pretty genetically altered

[rustic nexus]

Yea true

I doubt it could go past peak human

[light flare]

a human being that can kill a large animal with its bare hands

Editor's Note: Hercules was not a smart man, but he sure was strong.

[loud gate]

African humans are usually stronger than others

[acoustic osprey]

Tribals

[slate holly]

Do you think there is any reason why some legacy dinos are different from evrima? Are they just “prototypes” that were phased out or is it just a design retcon and there’s no lore to it whatsoever?

[fallen yoke]

I think they didnt like the direction of the dinos

[quartz sundial]

I believe the old dinos are still canon, judging from the Hope trailer. For the new spino, it refers to it as an "asset revision", and calls it a new phenotype
https://i.imgur.com/Tlgsuj3.png

implying that someone went back and did a round 2 on them

[acoustic osprey]

Do not aspects of Hope is not inaccurate

[quartz sundial]

o really

😔

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, no more Phoenix

[loud gate]

So what’s exactly gone?

[icy onyx]

there probably are no in-lore explanations. Its likely just retcons and little else

[quartz sundial]

did dondi confirm hope wasnt canon?

[slate holly]

Does anyone think that the legacy dinos might have gone extinct for some reason (idk a hypo rampage) and people just decided to redo them or am I just rambling about stuff I don’t know?

[acoustic osprey]

No, but going off that Phoenix is no longer apart of Isle lore

And that Phoenix was an aspect of hope

[quartz sundial]

when was phoenix removed 😭

[acoustic osprey]

Hope stays dubious

[icy onyx]

primal carnage relation is probably being cut off afaik

[acoustic osprey]

Just recently

[acoustic osprey]

Everything

[loud gate]

[quartz sundial]

🥹

im not gonna cry i swear!

[loud gate]

He didn’t give anything

He just removed a lot

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-crying-shower-sad-bathroom-gif-17172080

[pseudo fable]

These are actually all genuinely design retcons that lore had no impact on the decision of the need to redesign something, however, I usually include the redesign somewhere in the story of a creature's foundation just so some of the older fans can wave their cane angrily off the porch and proclaim, "I was there!"

[slate holly]

Oh I see thx

[quartz sundial]

i look forward to seeing tsl models hidden away somewhere so i can flex

[acoustic osprey]

Good

[stone crater]

Love that. I remember reading the old loading screens referring to Gen 1 and Gen 2 animals, thinking that those were the remodels

[light ice]

@pseudo fable is it possible to make a announcement for all official servers when they restart?

[long onyx]

Getting warned speedrun

[abstract dove]

fr

[long onyx]

LMAO HES MUTED

[edgy pike]

The greatest theory

[icy onyx]

AHAHA

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, definitely

to somehow "retcon" those old designs in, in a very "lore friendly matter"

[lament wing]

When lore is fun

[acoustic osprey]

sometimes

[acoustic osprey]

currently going through Don's stream and K15 in #isle-phase-three

Trying to see if I can find the camera (C2?)

[pseudo fable]

You won't.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-jimmy-mcgill-phone-smash-gif-26379642

Guess I'll have to wait till another theory pops up again

[pseudo fable]

Theory is right, but it's among the things I removed any time someone has seen my screen.

[acoustic osprey]

ahhh

[pseudo fable]

Same reason if you watch the K15 clip, you'll notice I didn't allow most of the storm effects.

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

guess it did feel a bit lacklustre

[acoustic osprey]

So it's confirmed that K15 IS a grid coordinate

which is great

[acoustic osprey]

And I left halfway through stream but I know what happened.
I'll be keeping just "memorable" moments in a personal folder just in case I need to refer back to it for lore-reasons

[icy onyx]

[acoustic osprey]

Now get to work

[slow delta]

Ugh

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Welcome
A lot to catch up to

[acoustic osprey]

Alright, time to fix all the issues now

https://tenor.com/view/dad-coraline-work-gif-18503813

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713759451836055653/1018464077980377158/d1b1ef02711a8f00f3f616fbf8ae56e6.jpg

So, K15 seems to be placed right on a cliff-side? (cliff-side esque)

[mystic rivet]

Is that dondi new stream

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[mystic rivet]

Did u make another vid on it

[acoustic osprey]

Can't

[mystic rivet]

Oh ok

[acoustic osprey]

Not allowed to

[mystic rivet]

U mean u haven’t had permission or were u told u can’t

[acoustic osprey]

sorta reminds me of this?

[mystic rivet]

[acoustic osprey]

Not allowed to anymore

[mystic rivet]

Threaten dondi with this

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

OH AND

K15 is also confirmed as a grid designation to a resupply point/s
So, either K15-C2 is a camera designation for K15's resupply point OR C2 is the name of the resupply point itself

that really just depends on how large the grid tiles are

although, I'd doubt there would be multiple on the one grid IF this map is supposedly (at least) a 11x15 grid map

So it's likely to be just a camera designation
a real or fake one

Seeing as you can't even see it, at least on the Don stream for P3

[acoustic osprey]

^

[sage cedar]

Sad, glad I got to see the full stream before I went to bed

[acoustic osprey]

same

[hexed flax]

Dondi also mentioned D10. Does that mean we will have A1-15 to at least K1-15?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes
So at least a 11x15 size map

[livid shard]

who the hell is Lawrence Carter

And besides, Legacy and Evrima are connected?

[sharp knoll]

CEO of PI

But forget PI now

[sharp knoll]

No

[steady raft]

Is there a lore reason for utah having pronated wrists and lacking feathers? I know the devs want a jp raptor but im just curious if there's a explanation for it.

[sharp knoll]

No Utah anymore

is Omniraptor

[steady raft]

What

[carmine marsh]

the current utahraptor is being renamed to "Omniraptor" and we'll be seeing a more accurate utahraptor replacement somewhere down the line.
unless i'm mistaken, "Omni" is replacing "Magna" which explains why the current utahraptor looks and acts more like the old Magnaraptor concept than a utahraptor.

[steady raft]

Oh ok, thanks for the explanation

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no

[acoustic osprey]

No

We don't know yet
We just know there is an o

[livid shard]

why?

[acoustic osprey]

Confirmed not connected

[sharp knoll]

Dondi scrapped PI

[livid shard]

awwww

I expected more from them :(

[acoustic osprey]

Gone

I guess it allows for more creative freedom

[carmine marsh]

it'd be weird to have both an omniraptor and magnaraptor though, no?

[livid shard]

It's sad because in The isle they don't give us names, the only solid tracks are in Legacy and we don't even know if they are canon

[sharp knoll]

Nope

[carmine marsh]

because unless magnaraptor has had some changes it's incredibly similar to the current utahraptor/omniraptor.

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows
That's if Magna raptor still exist

[sharp knoll]

PI is gone which means Magna is gone

I think

[acoustic osprey]

Well yes and no

Magnas are the product of The Isle

[carmine marsh]

right.
and my money is on Omni being the replacement, but we'll see.

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

[sharp knoll]

Magnas are now made by AE?

[livid shard]

Magnas still canon?

lmao

[acoustic osprey]

No, I'm talking about being by Afterthought

[acoustic osprey]

No, we don't know

[livid shard]

we are blind at the lore

[acoustic osprey]

Not really

[livid shard]

we cant see nothing about it

[acoustic osprey]

We are just given very little

Just slowly spoon fed

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/gus-fring-gustavo-breaking-bad-stare-eyeing-gif-16275096

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[carmine marsh]

really seems like Type M is being replaced by Type O to me, but i could be misunderstanding this.
could just be talking about which variant quetz will have to be fair.

[livid shard]

But what can we do with that knowledge?

[acoustic osprey]

Ms could be being replaced

Or that, if PI still existed, Os were AE's adaptation of Ms

[livid shard]

there are still many things that I have not even heard of the lore and I am already being negative

i didnt know about that classes

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[livid shard]

lol

And what about the isles?

where are they ubicated?

[acoustic osprey]

Complete

[loud gate]

[edgy pike]

does the C2 refer to a camera or grid coordinate?

[acoustic osprey]

K15 is definitely a grid coordinate

C2 is likely just the camera number

unless "K15-C2" means
Outpost K15 to Outpost C2

[edgy pike]

time to wait for more map screenshots lol

[acoustic osprey]

[edgy pike]

the cycads add so much to the atmosphere it reminds me of the old rodrigo vega concept art

[acoustic osprey]

We know there are "more" areas of the map
But Dondi deliberately turned them off so we couldn't see them

[edgy pike]

where the map was split up into triassic/jurassic/cretaceous

[edgy pike]

what like just not loaded in for the stream

[acoustic osprey]

He also noted that aspect from the position he was standing
Something along the line of "So you can't see things from where I am at the moment"

[edgy pike]

ah ok

[acoustic osprey]

No no, not put into the build he was running

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, the cycads do bring some life.
And will definitely help Juvies

[edgy pike]

spiky cover to hide in?

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, and dead open trees

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713759451836055653/1018465473886691399/38eb41237cbd955fc622803322acdc90.jpg

[edgy pike]

anything for an enhanced juvi experience, its been too painful for too long

[acoustic osprey]

definitely

[icy onyx]

mmm lovely cycads

[acoustic osprey]

^

[edgy pike]

https://images.app.goo.gl/bA6sERqHjvYT5cKHA more of this very epic 👍👍

[acoustic osprey]

vega was nice

there are some things, from him, that I hope don't come

[nocturne cosmos]

Hopefully lore drops soon instead of extremely vague gifs

[acoustic osprey]

true

[nocturne cosmos]

Very hard to gather anything from a gif

[acoustic osprey]

[edgy pike]

Due to this short moving image of a cloud we can assume storms flooding and volcanoes will arrive to the game next week

[acoustic osprey]

(Like the human faction design and the tribals faction design)

[nocturne cosmos]

Yes

[edgy pike]

I liked his cannibals

[nocturne cosmos]

With this gif of a guy saying no we can know that we just lost even more of our lore

[acoustic osprey]

You mean Eyeless?

[edgy pike]

Nah the bloke in the cave with the red face paint and the blue eyed people in the dark behind

[edgy pike]

So true

[acoustic osprey]

Ah yeah, that was a good Tribal design

man
https://twitter.com/theisleofficial/status/609814850517233665/photo/1

The Isle (@theisleofficial)

Don't want to use guns? Want to eat the flesh of your enemies? Look no further! #cannibals #indiedev #tribal

Twitter · Jun 13, 2015, 8:09 PM

[edgy pike]

But his map concept will always be the thing I’d want modded the most, plus you could tie it in with diet system and solve a lot of balancing issues by just having certain animals barely even encounter each over

[acoustic osprey]

yea

[edgy pike]

obviously not just a time period split because otherwise that would be herrerasaurus living by itself

[sage cedar]

Dead tree

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[edgy pike]

Dead tree xd

[light flare]

[devil may cry 3 intro theme starts playing]

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[trim gust]

It wasn't so bad in the early days where you didnt end up getting all of your stats at the last 10%, god knows why that change was made

It was spread out in 25% increments if i remember

[edgy pike]

Oh wait they actually did that?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[mystic rivet]

U haven’t noticed

[edgy pike]

I’ve only not played Ptera like twice in the last 4 months

Anyway lore or something

[icy onyx]

Odd they would mention guns with the tribals

[acoustic osprey]

Well, mostly because Tribals are (in lore) the version before Isle's Humans

[icy onyx]

I think Dondi is slowly going to release info on lore stuff indirectly instead of all at once so far it seems that way, been waiting for lore for a while

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-homelander-antony-starr-the-boys-sad-gif-26043538

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/iknow-cry-cryknow-gif-21141666

[edgy pike]

Sentenced to 5 months of gif lore

[light flare]

prototype was better. grug no need big brain, grug wrestle bears

[modern rover]

i hope this means death for the magna.

it probably wont but i can dream

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/6kNr.gif

[void apex]

@acoustic osprey I think you wanna see this

[rustic urchin]

I can’t tell if this is a yes or a no

[void apex]

they are no more I assume

they be dead

[rustic urchin]

Rest easily, sweet prince

[rustic halo]

glad to see magna Rex and magnaraptor go but the possibility of magna herbis

[void apex]

Magnaraptor is such a banger though :(

[rustic urchin]

[void apex]

Look at this lil guy

[rustic urchin]

Unironically magnaraptor was one of my favorite fictional raptor designs

[trim gust]

magnaraptor?

[rustic urchin]

Yea

[rustic halo]

Magnaraptor great design, but not as a separate thing. Would love to see Omniraptor be remodeled to reflect Magna.

[regal locust]

I mean, I'd imagine something would replace the magnas. Something with an O maybe?

[rustic urchin]

He was old, got mentioned like once or twice. Got a cool concept art tho

Observational quetz

[trim gust]

what the hell is omniraptor?

[rustic urchin]

It’s our current raptor

[rustic halo]

Current Utah

[trim gust]

So utah is getting a remodel?

[rustic halo]

No

[void apex]

Yes and no

[rustic halo]

Utah is being renamed to Omniraptor

[regal locust]

I mean Observational Quetz was just a guess of mine, who knows, could be Magnas 2.0.

[void apex]

Our Utahraptor is not a Utahraptor, so it is named Omniraptor now

But we are getting a realistic Utahraptor iirc

[trim gust]

Ok....?

So it's just PC Novo but with more flare?

[rustic urchin]

Maybe just magna rex is dead and not raptor

[rustic halo]

why

[trim gust]

So do we know anything about actual utah raptor?

[rustic urchin]

Magna rex going makes sense because without the primal carnage connection it really doesn’t make sense at all. It’s basically pce rex. Magnaraptor however isn’t really similar to novaraptor at all

[rustic halo]

just that it’s coming to the game eventually

[void apex]

Magnaraptor is kinda the opposite from Nova

Bulkier on average, more powerful looking ya know?

[rustic halo]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-better-gif-26268581

[trim gust]

But what is all of this even for? why the sudden rename? i dont understand

Why not just remake utah?

[rustic urchin]

People wanted a paleoaccurate Utah so it’s getting an accurate variant. It’s getting the rights to the name utahraptor. Our current Utah isn’t really a Utah at all so it’s getting a made up name showing how it’s species created by Apollo engineering

[rustic halo]

As I understand it the team just wanted an accurate Utah and so they decided to work current Utah’s innacuracy into the lore and renamed it

[trim gust]

I mean it's cool but i thought the whole point of the strains and AE was to create some biochemics stuff for medicine?

[rustic halo]

I do wonder why originally Magnaraptor wasn’t close to Novaraptor

[trim gust]

You'd assume that these strains that are discontinued would just die out or someting

Seems abit funny that omni is a thing is all.

[rustic halo]

If the magnas originated from Phoenix research/samples like implied with Magnarex, why is Magnaraptor so different

[trim gust]

I mean the PC connection is gone now right?

[regal locust]

The PC connection is gone, so, it's probably safe to assume Magnas just aren't a thing.

[rustic halo]

Yeah, what I asked is completely irrelevant now

[rustic urchin]

If magnas are dead I wouldn’t mind calling our Utah magnaraptor/making magnaraptor itself our new fictional raptor

[rustic halo]

Just curious about what the explanation would’ve been

[regal locust]

What I'd like to know is, like, what's taking their place if anything?

[rustic urchin]

I hope magnas just get an overhaul

Lose their connection to Phoenix

Magnatyrannus either goes away or gets a new design to separate itself from primal

[trim gust]

The problem with having all of these dead-end strains is that you have functional developments that are obviously going to happen as the genetic code of other animals is being produced.

We dont see an Omnitaurus or a Omnimimmus, i just think Omniraptor would stick out like a sore thumb.

[rustic halo]

I hope we get a Herbi exclusive thing that follows the same “natures way of fighting back” thing. Follow a certain diet or do certain things as a Herbi like you would for getting a Carni strain, and then when a strain appears on the map, you’d hulk out and be tasked with killing that strain.

[rustic urchin]

Also I love this

[trim gust]

I just dont think a company like AE would be so wasteful with this process

[rustic halo]

I also do not like Omniraptor being renamed. I’d much rather it just keep the name Utahraptor and we get feathered alt models later on but…

[rustic urchin]

Is it weird that I simultaneously hate primal carnage rex design and like magna design?

Like they’re the same animal. But isles version looks less cartoony

I’ll miss him

[regal locust]

One's a refined version of the other. The quality's gone up tremendously.

[rustic halo]

Is magnarex supposed to be the same as pc rex or is it supposed to be Phoenix genetics applied to Apollo rex

[regal locust]

With the isle going stupid hard into the themes of like, perfection, refinement, etc.

I highly doubt Magnas wouldn't be replaced by some other variant(s).

[trim gust]

I mean its beyond lame.

When working with genetics the idea is to keep wasteful processes to a minimum so that you dont induce any contaminants between the complementary and primary strands, as well as inducing modifications which have potential to interface with other potential interfering elements like miRNAs and tertiary structure elements,

Having Omniraptor coming from a purely genetics engineering POV suggests that AE is a wasteful company and the process is inefficient, as well as having this assumed genetic dud (given that it's meant to be utah and it's not utah now) persist is very unlikely since DNA breakdown could very well be possible but this is reading too far into the lines

[rustic urchin]

maybe we can get a new magnarex design more focused on the idea of roiding up the base animal rather than being Phoenix rex

[rustic halo]

I wonder if Omniraptor implies the renaming of other innacurate dinos. Omnispinus

[trim gust]

Idk, we'll see how the lore plays out but TL;DR - If theres Omniraptors, there will have to be Omni's representative of each dino since why would it just be a mutally exclusive thing? surely if one genetic dead-end persists, others must too.

Seems like an excuse to have J.P. raptors without upsetting paleo-fans.

[regal locust]

Could also be some kind of genetic reject with it's own moniker?

I mean it's not hard to imagine that it's a byproduct of, whatever, and just didn't work out as intended.

[trim gust]

Genetic rejects dont persist though, breakdown of GC bases would ensure that they dont live very long, if we go into the hard science of it.

If we're saying this then why aren't there genetic rejects of the other species? surely there must be others since theres a vast majority of animals being cloned and replicated by AE now

[rustic halo]

Why keep producing them then, what is the purpose in keeping a reject around and branding it with it’s own name

[trim gust]

Military?

Raptor mounts for mercs? SOE or other special forces?

[nocturne cosmos]

Too wild

[rustic halo]

I think the military dinos thing has been discounted a few times

[trim gust]

Its a dumb take, but the whole premise is dumb.

[rustic halo]

Main focus of Æ is medical, but where the strains have obvious perks, I don’t see any in Omni

[trim gust]

I like the idea of at some point:

Mercs consist of classes

Scientists are the go toos that actually sample strain juice from the dinos, dinos can eat the scientists to become strains

I haven't thought of any other classes, could even just be two factions in the merc line-up with science staff and actual hardline mercs.

[regal locust]

The strains themselves have practically been confirmed to be exaggerations that don't work out. Hypers having their obvious downsides, Neuros getting all weird, and tissos becoming volatile.

Omni being a derivitive byproduct to attempt to perfect a genome of a particular animal seems plausible, outside of strains and the like tho.

[rustic halo]

Well we know the mercs have been created by Æ. Which explain them being dropped in with no weaponry while supposedly being guns for hire. Idk if they worked as science staff before though, I think they were purely experimented on.

[trim gust]

Hyperendocrine has some applications in terms of age, performance enhancement and cell mortality though right surely?

The endocrine system manages alot of metabollic processes that govern those factors so perhaps they're intended to become volatile as a means of extracting maximal yields.

[rustic urchin]

Spinosaurus olympius

[regal locust]

It works out until you literally starve and die within a day. So, it doesn't work out.

[trim gust]

Drugs can work differently on humans, dont forget this is a uncontrolled mutation we're seeing in these dinos. If a prescribed dose was medicated then the effects could be different?

[regal locust]

In terms of the other strains, which at this point is probably not a thing because it comes from the transmitter stream with PC:E tie ins, is that Tissoplastic tissue being inserted into people also caused a stupidly high mortality rate? So it was too volatile to use as well.

[rustic halo]

Well we saw hyper at work on a human and it was pretty

[rustic urchin]

Monke

[regal locust]

Yeah, doesn't work out as intended.

[gaunt basin]

HOLY!

[regal locust]

Also, it's not as if it's some drug or whatever that you can prescribe someone, if you're quite literally altering their DNA.

[rustic urchin]

Plot twist, the story arc comes full circle and our magnarex becomes

[sharp knoll]

Magna's were suppose to be perfect "Hyper", because they were intelligent and yeah like Zann said perfect animal or creature with perfect genome, for example that picture of Magna Rex killing the Hyper Rex, so what if AE wanted to eliminate the strains so they created intelligent creatures (of course the Neuro's are the most intelligent creatures, so probably they wanted to remove the Hyper's) just to remove them, to not make the same mistake. Again they could actually created them not just for removing them because it sounds stupid and not realistic so probably they created them for some others purposes (maybe for some other medicines purposes), for what, we don't know and now as they are gone we'll see how is gonna be with Omni's.

[sharp knoll]

Oh Vega

[sharp knoll]

But let's just say Magna's were suppose to be perfect animal with perfect genome, but now forget, no more Magna's

In the beginning when was the first mention of Magna Rex, like "How the f#ck does that looks like a PC Rex"

But whatever they are gone

[acoustic osprey]

And the Magna is finally gone

[rustic urchin]

[acoustic osprey]

I guess they're being properly replaced with Os now

[rustic urchin]

Ohiotyrannus

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[sharp knoll]

Omnityrannus and Omnicoatlus

[acoustic osprey]

I'm fine with omnis

Being the Os

[sharp knoll]

They sound interesting

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[pseudo fable]

Actually, the fact you think the whole premise is dumb is probably why you are only putting forward "dumb" takes. Seems to be the common theme when someone doesn't like something.

[acoustic osprey]

Uh oh, military AE

Time to learn about the world outside Spiro and Gateway

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/ride-happy-joy-all-smiles-headed-somewhere-gif-14589432

[acoustic osprey]

I do wonder how people react with AE. How AE reacts to the world around it. Etc

[sharp knoll]

Well people think "Ah just a medical company"

[acoustic osprey]

I say there is likely more to that

[sharp knoll]

It's a f#cking Area 51

[acoustic osprey]

Either their facade is medicine
Or their original "idea" was for medicine

[sharp knoll]

Well is medicine because of the name

[acoustic osprey]

Well yeah

But that could still be a facade

Or the above prior

[sharp knoll]

Yes

[trim gust]

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bBSOG.gif

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[rustic halo]

When in doubt, troll emote

[trim gust]

true.

[shell remnant]

just realized magna is gone

[rustic urchin]

Bro imagine learning that Pfizer has been cloning dinosaurs

[shell remnant]

i liked it for some reason idk why

[rustic urchin]

I’ll miss him

[shell remnant]

now i'll never get anything close to a free roam Primal Carnage survival game

but anyways

[acoustic osprey]

True

But we will live

[sharp knoll]

Lol

[rustic urchin]

im sure magnarex will get modded in one way or another

carnage isnt coming home though

[acoustic osprey]

Definately

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-sad-toy-story-woody-so-long-partner-gif-9797730

[blazing dome]

we had any idea why the mans leaves?

[acoustic osprey]

Which man

[rustic urchin]

magna? cause primal carnage isnt canon anymore

and magnarex kinda relies on that connection

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[chrome acorn]

called it

Imagine this means we get terminator versions of more Dino’s if zann is right and the O variant is the bio mechanical quetz

[acoustic osprey]

I hope it's not

[modern rover]

:)

[icy onyx]

real^

[acoustic osprey]

No

[bold cipher]

human growth

[severe raft]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-gmod-the-isle-gmod-gif-25129032

[lone iron]

My nightmares yay 🙂

[chrome acorn]

odd amount of shitposting in the lore channel

[acoustic osprey]

Looks like K15

[rapid chasm]

is there a image of k15

THATS K15

100%, tower in the back

[livid shard]

That is insane

[rustic urchin]

What is k15

[sharp knoll]

Gateway

[acoustic osprey]

The place in phase three

The first post

[vocal violet]

Ok so question the canonical name of the currrent Utah is Omniraptor right or ai am being misinformed?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[vocal violet]

Yes what?

[rustic halo]

Utah is Omniraptor now

[vocal violet]

Ok thanks

[rustic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhh-damn-bro-daamn-that-was-obvious-realising-gif-24880382

[acoustic osprey]

Sick some discord isle memes coming to lore

And, I wonder if this will stay in Gateway

Hopefully

[verbal whale]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[modern rover]

im still curious about why, at a certain hour, trumpets played and dondi PANICKED and ran away from the building

[acoustic osprey]

Wish I was there
Wonder what it means

[modern rover]

im KINDA hoping it was robo quetz, but noone saw what it was

considering the aviary and all

[acoustic osprey]

From the aviary?

[modern rover]

yea

[acoustic osprey]

Interesting

He didn't go inside did he?

[modern rover]

before we saw the aviary, Dondi walked up to it, trumpet noises played and he panicked and ran the other direction

this was at night

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

I presume it's a specialised track

[modern rover]

they changed time of day and then he consistently asked for the EXACT time ingame

[acoustic osprey]

Interesting

[modern rover]

then they walked up to the structure to show it

[acoustic osprey]

[modern rover]

i think the fact that time was a major factor plays a big part in whatever is there.

which is why i was thinking robo quetz, because it implies automation at certain hours

(also the aviary thing)

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

[modern rover]

also the massive trumpet music also implies it's something to either fear or look on with awe

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Didn't get to hear it
So I hope the brass was good. Unlike the old combat music

[modern rover]

it was some terrifying stuff, we only heard like two trumpet blasts before Dondi booked it

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[nocturne cosmos]

god please tell me we get clips this time or that someone clipped it

[acoustic osprey]

I hope someone did

As I'm not doing Don's ones anymore

[edgy pike]

Panic as in “I can’t show them that”?

[modern rover]

Very much he couldn't show us

But also it was some massive trumpets, so it's possible that the thing itself has an entire OST track dedicated to it

[edgy pike]

That’s cool

[modern rover]

And it's a VERY intimidating trumpet blast lmao

It's quite possible that whatever it was is either something awesome in scale or something terrifying in nature

What little we heard of the music was absolutely not just "environmental music", it was loud and sudden

[ancient epoch]

What year is in the isle and why they are using bell 47 which is quite old heli its got to be at least 1998 because suchomimus is discovered

[modern rover]

A lot of the gear on The Isle is very outdated

It's modern day, but with older tech

[acoustic osprey]

There are two times

The time we're playing in
And the time Spiro was active before "it" happened

[nocturne cosmos]

Sooo do we have any idea when we will be getting some actual lore? I’m guessing whenever the new map drops

[acoustic osprey]

every few days

But larger lore drops?
Not any time soon. Maybe even never

[nocturne cosmos]

Every few days?

[edgy pike]

What like from the dev streams?

[nocturne cosmos]

I wish they clipped them

[acoustic osprey]

Magnas being unconfirmed 🙂

[edgy pike]

I wanna know what this giant aviary trumpet was

[acoustic osprey]

PC no longer connected

[nocturne cosmos]

We both know that’s not lore

[acoustic osprey]

It's still lore

[nocturne cosmos]

In fact that is the opposite of lore that is no longer lore gone lore

[acoustic osprey]

There is a lot to come from "Magnas no longer"

[nocturne cosmos]

What?

[acoustic osprey]

A lot less restrictions.
More creative freedom now

[nocturne cosmos]

How?

[edgy pike]

Design choices ig

[acoustic osprey]

No restricted to PC worldbuilding.
Gives us way to see how Os could react, different from Magna's literally being "Hyper but weaker, but also sustainable"

[nocturne cosmos]

Yeah but I’m defo sure isle team made magnas up

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no

the term Magna is from AE
But Magnas are from PC technically

[nocturne cosmos]

I get their the dinos from PC but at the same time they are different

[edgy pike]

I mean the “magnaraptor” when that was a thing looked nothing like the novaraptor

[acoustic osprey]

Different term, same thing.
Although, Magnaraptor was a good and original design

[nocturne cosmos]

I can see how it opens up to more stuff but kinda knew that when PC was no longer in the lore

[acoustic osprey]

Not the same

But technically Magnaraptor was from PC, iirc

[acoustic osprey]

Magnas just further open it

and it was obvious that Magnas would be removed if PC was too

[nocturne cosmos]

Yaa

Rn we are just confirming or unconfirming a lot of the old stuff

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979068332886077490/1019148901732855858/giphy.gif

[edgy pike]

What do we even have at the moment now

[nocturne cosmos]

One day we will get real lore drops

[edgy pike]

That’s actually concrete

[acoustic osprey]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wRF05lnHGo1OQe3ovpZ0PaHolKFNHLxjDaxuGvxhaow/edit?usp=sharing
this

[nocturne cosmos]

Pc gone everything else I think is pretty much the same?

[acoustic osprey]

the same from legacy?

[nocturne cosmos]

Nah just same kinda stuff like the strains all got confirmed

Right ?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[edgy pike]

Lemme scroll through all the crossed out Phoenix content lol

[acoustic osprey]

Colossus, Echidna and Reaper being back

[nocturne cosmos]

Reaper

[acoustic osprey]

unsure to keep or not

[nocturne cosmos]

At this point I don’t see much of a need for it just going to be confusing for people who look at it

[acoustic osprey]

true

[edgy pike]

Wasn’t all of the Tisso strain being redesigned

Reaper included?

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know if that's the case anymore

[edgy pike]

We are living off of crumbs

[nocturne cosmos]

Starving

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[edgy pike]

The PC connection reveal was the last time anyone in this channel felt happiness

It’s all been downhill

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[nocturne cosmos]

We are in the pits of hell right now

[edgy pike]

Tartarus

[river ocean]

I hope that the matriarch will also return

[icy onyx]

reaper?

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/horror-scary-frightened-grim-reaper-the-grim-reaper-gif-3562976

[undone sigil]

we aere in v3 the hole time

[sharp knoll]

No

[undone sigil]

thats what you whant us to think haha

[sharp knoll]

What

[undone sigil]

idk man

i think itll be funny tho

[sharp knoll]

Ok

[modern rover]

what are you talking about

what is this map

[sharp knoll]

V3

[shell remnant]

anyone else think the raptors in the Phase Three post don't look too much like Utahs/Omnis? If anything, they look more like the Novaraptors from Primal Carnage. Might be just me though.

Could be Austros or smth too

[rustic halo]

Looks like Omni to me, tap art isn’t gonna be 1:1 with game

[shell remnant]

Probably, but then again... hope for PC connected lore and Dondi was lying to us?

[oblique surge]

I think that's just the darkness and change in style

[shell remnant]

yeah probably

[acoustic osprey]

No

[fickle star]

Dinosaur on island with people, people leave or die dinosaur stay alive-the isle

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty close, I'd say

[acoustic osprey]

Wonder what C2 means in K15?
I presume it's definitely a camera (camera 2)

With the bridge concept "C2" just being a number system for the actual concepts itself?

[short sleet]

Carno 2 the second coming

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[hexed flax]

Maybe the positions from the concepts are where the actual cameras will be placed later

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

Theory is right, but it's among the things I removed any time someone has seen my screen.

Maybe, maybe not

[hexed flax]

Btw "The Isle News Updates" uploaded Dondi' stream. The trumpet sound can be heard at 51:29. Thought you might want to clip it and put it in your doc

[acoustic osprey]

Aight and thanks
and for @modern rover just so you can know too

this was the only stream I couldn't catch

Reminds me of the cave noises from Minecraft lol

Yeah, you can tell he's removed areas off the map

When he goes to the beach, you can see half of it missing

Which is obvious, he said he turned stuff off in his first stream

Either for debugging or a POI, who knows 🙂

Ah, a water experiment. Nice

[hexed flax]

Maybe even both.

Imo the trumpet didn't sound like a soundtrack. It didn't sound directional (not sure though because my phones headphones aren't completely healthy) but it has become quiter when Dondi turned around and walked away.

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, know actually hearing it AND his reaction.
It sounded obvious that it had a meaning

[hexed flax]

But if it is triggered by getting to close to a structure, why did he go there in the first place? He knew it would happen. And i don't think drone quetz would have this

[acoustic osprey]

Well, sounds like structure and time based

I presume he didn't realise what the time was

[hexed flax]

I guess that makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

Yea

So K15 has a cliff-side

Roughly L or I 10 is a shore with the few of "The Isle Logo Island"

[chrome acorn]

Is that where the aviary thing was?

[acoustic osprey]

I think he was on his way to the aviary?

Like, I say it was roughly 500m-1km away from it.
Could see the top of the dome

[chrome acorn]

hmmm

I’m guessing we don’t have a scale for the size of each sector

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

Just prototyping the map coordinates

Hold on

better

Just looking at his pass streams.
I'm guessing the actual "cliffside" of K15 faces either East, NE or SE

Seeing as there is a clear high elevation from the route at I10/L10 to K15

However, it could be flipped
Where the alphabet is X axis and numbers on the Y axis

But this is just rough stuff

And looking at the pathway he takes to get from the "Hyper Fence" to K15, he also takes a hill up.
So I'd say Hyper Fence is roughly at somewhere near K,L, or J; Roughly around one or two tiles away

And from what we saw last week.
The trail from Bridge, Cycad area and Hyper Fence is a connected route

With K15 being a short 2 minute run from the Hyper Fence (although, Troodon speed wont be the same on launch, as it was troo fast still)

The route from L/I 10 to K15 bends back as well. Which might allude to it being more so I10

But we'll see

[pseudo fable]

I look forward to seeing this.

[knotty locust]

🤨

[runic shuttle]

That's cool o:

[honest prairie]

Dondi i have a question

[mystic rivet]

Beipichad has a question

[acoustic osprey]

😎

[sand seal]

Shocking.

[mystic rivet]

Extremely

[icy onyx]

I deeply agree with ur username

Beipi is indeed a chad animal

[edgy pike]

do we have anymore locations than those 3?

[acoustic osprey]

I have a rough idea where the bridge is

Cycads and hyper fence

Although, I need to re-watch the stream video again.
And just get a rough idea what direction Don goes

I have a feeling this map is gonna be bigger

Strange how there is a bay of water facing north at the middle of the map

With the "logo island" around 2kms ahead

I presume every "tile" isn't too big

Don could've been wrong though.
The beach side might be more so 12 or 13

[pseudo fable]

Definitely could be wrong. I don't know my wild grid references yet.

[acoustic osprey]

Understandable.

Everything, besides K15, is roughly patched on the grid as approximate guesses

Hopefully will be able to plot more before the map is properly shown

Let's see how inaccurate it is

[wicked sable]

If we put this on the map seen on the Vulnona website and adjust a few things, I can see your grid working.

[sonic rampart]

Lightclaw is making a grid for Gateway, not v3

[void apex]

(gateway being the map we can't play yet for evrima)

[severe raft]

What about the Grim Expanse

[stone crater]

Grim Expanse was a barren wasteland of a walking simulator broken up by two or three mega hotspots everybody would crowd around. A veritable mosh pit of an oasis that would inevitably get one killed, forced to trek for minutes across the nothing-fields and repeat the cycle ad infinitum.

So yknow, in other words, a classic Isle map

[acoustic osprey]

Thank you

But different map, as said before

[wicked sable]

yw

[wicked sable]

ah

[acoustic osprey]

Which is the new map

Haven't had the chance to update it
But I know what I'm doing

I might even get on PS and draw some rough sketches
Especially of the bay

[stuck steeple]

Wow I did not even know that the isle was that big I wander if we are capable of traveling the hole map soon

[modern rover]

that's a V3 map, that isn't from EVRIMA

[acoustic osprey]

^

[stuck steeple]

Oh wait so they renewing the map in the update right so that mean they also update some stuff for humans to hide in

[acoustic osprey]

Playable current map (Isla Spiro) is only 1/4 used

[acoustic osprey]

No

They've made a completely new map

[stuck steeple]

Oh wait they made a different map this time?

★w★

So isla spiro was just test run map? Or a mean map?

[acoustic osprey]

No

It's a proper map
The only map for Evrima currently

[wary rampart]

@void apex I made an archive

[hexed flax]

@acoustic osprey has Dondi already confirmed that the new map is Gateway, or is that just an assumption?

[acoustic osprey]

Confirmed

[hexed flax]

So Isla Velada (the arid map) or the new version of spiro? (The one with the trumpet sounds)

[sage cedar]

Velada has a new name, gateway and it’s a jungle map but it could be multiple biomes on that map (and he was talking about velada (gateway)

[acoustic osprey]

No, the one with the trumpet sounds is Velada

which Velada was renamed to Gateway

[hexed flax]

I know that most of the old lore is useless now, but if Dondi didn't change these things we might already have a clue what to do

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

[tawdry spruce]

Is primal carnage and the isle in the same universe?

Like is Phoenix international and AE in the same universe?

[sharp knoll]

Not anymore

[tawdry spruce]

Why not I heard it was?

[sharp knoll]

Dondi scrapped it

[acoustic osprey]

Gone

You can see it in my pinned doc

[tawdry spruce]

Alright

And what does AE stand for?

Cause I heard it stands for Apollo Engineering

[sharp knoll]

Yes