Is this intended

[cunning flint]

nah it's just supposed to be like the other stone dusts

[raw walrus]

are the difference in this numbers from "perfectly forget!" buff increasing?

[viral torrent]

perfectly forget 💀

also you can't get those on drills

[cunning flint]

forging buffs work like enchants

[raw walrus]

thats why I'm asking

[viral torrent]

its more of a manual labor vs power tools difference

[raw walrus]

before, the hammer was usually faster due to this buff, and I thought that this nerf made it equal to the electric version

[arctic agate]

the better the tool

the better the speed

[arctic agate]

forging is only for unbreaking I think

[normal lantern]

Nope, increases tool speed and damage too. It's why the lv drills were kinda terrible before because you got no bonuses at all from a drill other than it being a combination excavator and mining hammer

[arctic agate]

interesting i thought it was dura only

I will try to add forging bonuses

but then we need anvil for every tool materials

[cunning flint]

drills are also made out of 8 plates instead of just forging

which an anvil can't handle

[arctic agate]

We could always split it?

would be a bit tedious

to make one though

but there is repair kit now

so there is that

[cunning flint]

I wonder if there'd be a way to like, anvil a drill into a forged drill - no idea if anvil recipes can handle nbt like that

[arctic agate]

I guess on paper it should

[cunning flint]

a totally unrelated thing is to just have some other way to get forging bonuses for machined parts

[arctic agate]

The easiest solution would be to make it only for blue and redsteel

so we just override the gt recipe

well I guess at that point we can make it for all

[raw walrus]

forge the drill head into the drill head with buff?

[arctic agate]

Unfinished drill head -> Forge it

and we allow the unfinished drill head to be use for the drill too

so players can skip it

or the opposite I guess

would be easier

just add a new drill head

Forged Drill Head

and redo all the recipes for it

it doesn't sound too bad to do

Well just add a prefix and a new item

then make a function so you can craft the drill head to this new one in the anvil

and a function to craft the drill with it

[gritty tangle]

For repair it claims 25% max durability, but I noticed it going to do full repair

[grand breach]

its only a visual thing iirc

Try to actually craft it and see dura

[gritty tangle]

Oh cool, yeah it did only repair 25%

[cunning flint]

nbt stuff is complicated

[arctic agate]

yeah sorry

Gregtech tools weren't playing nice

You have to trust the process ahah

Even if it doesn't look like so it will save all the nbt (energy, names, etc..)

[cunning flint]

yeah it's like unbreaking + efficiency + maybe sharpness? unsure

[quiet narwhal]

Is it intended that you can cook titanium with kanthal coils using the temperature bonus at EV (2 HV hatches)?

[plain tendon]

known

[signal carbon]

In the new Advanced boiler, the recipies take 80 buckets of fluid, shouldn't it be 80 mB ?

same for syngas taking 20 buckets

[arctic agate]

No lol

[raw walrus]

I think there should have been charcoal

[raw walrus]

we (entire ru chat) still havent figured out what the idea behind the advanced boiler mode is

it just eat 80b of syngas and burning like in normal mode (this makes 20% of the energy from burning the same 80B in a gas turbine)

and its strange that there is no duration difference between these recipes

[raw walrus]

and we dont understand why 1 pitiful piece of coal has an binding effect on
80 liters of fuel

[raw walrus]

maybe its worth making a recipe
bio chaff+carcoal=relatively a lot of binder in the mixer
and proportionate amount of this binder will be involved in the combustion of these fuels?
this would also solve the problem of the need for large input hatches (if this was not intended)
also the name "advanced mod" doesn't say much(at least for me) so maybe it should be changed to something like "hard fuels mod" or something related to the theme of this mode, since it involves more complex\hard(not solid) fuels?

[arctic agate]

thanks for the feedback

[arctic agate]

#1482388656579678208

[normal lantern]

despite not showing a crafting recipe, programmed circuits can be crafted

i'm fairly cerrtain these were supposed to be removed on purpose, but double checking

[cunning flint]

that's fine

we never removed them

they're just not visible in emi for some reason

[normal lantern]

Ah ok

[raw walrus]

treated planks are crush into normal dust?

[shrewd hamlet]

Steam thermifuge doesn't have a working enabled / disabled button, is that intended?

Thing sucks on steam like no other machine I've seen which is fair the steam thermifuge is amazing

[cunning flint]

that's what all steam multis do I think

just hit with a soft mallet

[shrewd hamlet]

Oh you're right, thanks

[cunning flint]

what does the macerator recipe say? to the right

[raw walrus]

same

[cunning flint]

I think this used to be this way because of the chipboard composite recipes

I'm not sure if it's still needed after we changed the second circuit board recipe though

[raw walrus]

we need this pulp for this composite->bakelite
and can just macerate another treated wood planks(strange that this recipe produces a whole dust instead of a quarter)

[cunning flint]

I think you can put the wood pulp into a barrel to treat it that way

but yeah, looks like something might've broken

[normal lantern]

ya, you can chem bath it or throw it in a barrel

[cunning flint]

oh no wait this is because of the wood recipe changes lol

[vestal nova]

is it intended that both recipes use the same circuits it gets really annoying because i cant do more than one recipe at the time

oh wait you can just put double plate in filter and it works i guess

[bright nimbus]

while flora pellets have a tooltip [burns to white(1688K), lasts for 1:54], registered in data.aquaponics.js, they miss neither #tfc:forge_fuel nor #tfc:firepit_fuel and wont be accepted by forge or firepit

[cunning flint]

things that are clearly bugs can go in our github

[cunning flint]

I can move one to a different circuit I guess

[raw walrus]

there is a different percentages of washing byproducts with normal water

[sonic phoenix]

intended

[vestal nova]

are macerators more precise or something that you can do it only in macerator and not in millstone/crushing wheels?

[cunning flint]

it's a greate compat thing, they'll fix it in gt8

same reason why some recycling outputs are different

[plain tendon]

intended or?

oh lol

[signal carbon]

The factory fluid gauges can't be moved into the same block as other fluid gauge. Probably a Create Factory Logistics problem and not a modpack one so idk if it's fixable.

[cunning flint]

yes, send it to them

[cunning flint]

no, but we've changed to a completely different repair system or 0.12

[signal carbon]

i sadly don't have a github account but thanks for the answer

[viral torrent]

is it intended that locometal windows can't be harvested with anything?

[cunning flint]

can you sneak rclick them with a wrench?

[viral torrent]

no

[cunning flint]

ok, put a bug in then (or fix it yourself and PR it :p)

[plush patrol]

Wildebeasts that spawn in groups maul eachother to death

They should only sometimes charge no?

[neat glade]

Is that intended that u cannot use different kind of fuels for primitive blast furnace?(Like throw 1 coke and 1 anthracite)

[sonic phoenix]

Im pretty sure yes

[cunning flint]

wildebeests aren't a new mob

[sonic phoenix]

Is the alloy smelter graphite powder supposed to use 1 or 4 powder?

[raw walrus]

I was scared at first when I heard that
#💬│modern-chat-ru message

[raw walrus]

сори гайс ай форгет ват тудей из фирст ейприл

[cunning flint]

fixed in 0.12

[vestal nova]

Are encased fans that buggy for a reason or something?

[arctic agate]

They shouldn’t be anymore?

[vestal nova]

washes some then stops

and get clogged

if you put anything more than 32 in one stack its just breaks

[arctic agate]

I guess we are still waiting for Greate update ?

[vestal nova]

i tried moving it one block further from the fan

still doesnt work

[vestal nova]

okay i see

if you have 4 stacks of items on the belt

that last stack becames bugged

[arctic agate]

Make a bug report to Greate if they don’t already have one

[normal lantern]

no moon recipe for i/o busses?

[arctic agate]

there isn't for every things

also I think you should try to not use them

[normal lantern]

omo

Why?

[arctic agate]

they are tps heavy

[normal lantern]

They throttle update rate the same as any other ae component, shouldn't be any worse than a conveyor module i'd imagine

[arctic agate]

it is

[normal lantern]

No big deal on both the recipe and performance cost though, I don't use very many of em. Mostly lots of interfaces for logistics things.

[vestal nova]

i got this fucking shit to work but i think i find another bug

were crushing wheels always that instant?

if crushed through bronze crate full of stuff in like 2 mins

[arctic agate]

it depends of the resources

[vestal nova]

i remember like 2 months back that it was always slow process

to crush

[vestal nova]

and it broke again

[bright nimbus]

io bus is much worse than interface (with gt convey or pump)

[remote gorge]

It is early winter in the tropics, but standing outside at night the temperature is still around 30 even though the current temp per inventory screen is 11?

[cunning flint]

are you standing around near warm stuff?

[normal lantern]

current temp and tfc ambiental temperatures are different (no i have no idea how it works)

[normal lantern]

it's just. Like That.

[cunning flint]

yes, current temp is just based on the time of day, climate, and elevation (and a bit of day to day randomness). It isn't affected by blocks around you or what you're doing like ambiental is

[normal lantern]

You'd think that standing in the darkness, at night, with no light or notable blocks with no clothing would be the same, but it's not. shrug

[shrewd hamlet]

wind it cold c:

[cunning flint]

ambiental is a bit weird sometimes yeah lol

[neat glade]

Is that intended that u cannot repair tongs with repair kits?

[sonic phoenix]

what version are you on?

[neat glade]

11 28

[sonic phoenix]

i think it should be repairable from 12.0 onwards

[neat glade]

got it

[final thistle]

hey sorry if this was already asked before but I was wondering if removing several ores from Earth was intentional with the 0.12 ore vein update?
currently Chromite, Lepidolite, Platinum, Soapstone, Talc, Pitchblende, and Garnet Sand are all unobtainable on earth and must be gotten from other dimensions. if it was intentional that's fine I just want to check just in case they were forgotten (there's 100+ ores so I get it's hard to remember them all lol)

[arctic agate]

Yeah you can still get all the required ones

[cunning flint]

why were they all removed? platinum I know you wanted to remove but what about the others?

[arctic agate]

Chromite / Platinum / Pitchblende for not being necessary and to favorise ore processing

[cunning flint]

what part of chromite isn't necessary

[arctic agate]

All of it

[cunning flint]

it would be nice to have more than only ruby

[arctic agate]

Eh I think having some ore diversity is nice

Chromite is on the moon I’m pretty

Could also play around with it when we redo the beneath veins

Like in Gregtech you don’t have all the ores in the same dimension

[cunning flint]

sure I guess

what about garnet sands or the "lubricant" ores? I know we took glauconite sand out of them

maybe we could split up the existing sand vein

two ores each

[arctic agate]

we could

these veins are really good

tin on beach feels amazing

[ivory charm]

Ive noticed that pumpkins and some fruit trees have a higher chance to grow in small ponds than in previous versions, maybe an issue with world gen?

[cunning flint]

do you have a picture?

I don't think I've seen any so maybe you've been (un)lucky?

[cunning flint]

hmm ok ty

[cunning flint]

that's a birch tree

[ivory charm]

yeah I am not able to access the fruit tree world at the moment

[cunning flint]

I haven't touched pumpkin spawning at all 🤔

[ivory charm]

it may not have to do with pumpkin spawns. My uneducated guess would be an issue with world gen spawning random small ponds that overlap in an area that have pumpkin spawns and not voiding that area

it could the same way sometimes fruit trees either dont spawn correctly, only spawning a single fruit tree trunk blcok and not the whole tree

I've noticed that happens occasionally if you use the same seed multiple times to recreate the map

[unborn belfry]

It seems that molds don't break anymore as of 0.12.1. Is it intended?

[arctic agate]

I did broke some

[fringe copper]

Do the Gregtech autominers purposely ignore raw ore blocks?

[sonic phoenix]

yes

[next pecan]

Is this intended for falling blocks to break create tracks ?

it's very annoying

[raw walrus]

different stack size
there are steel and aluminum double plates

[shrewd hamlet]

double aluminium plate op

Don't let tom find out about it !!

[vestal nova]

I already informed about the issue

I think the tfc existing plates stack only to 4

Gt ones to 16

[cunning flint]

yeah yeah I'm looking at it

there we go

[vestal nova]

Yippie

[vestal nova]

Another buff to steam users…

[vestal nova]

glass pane doesnt seem to have the create variants in stonecutter now

[cunning flint]

🤔

I don't think we touched that

[vestal nova]

i am sure i did it with stonecutter

i would be too lazy to make it otherwise

[grand breach]

maybe make a glass and then stonecut?

[vestal nova]

No no no

[gritty tangle]

Issue moved to #1426969909790769193

[cunning flint]

#1426969909790769193

[raw walrus]

there is no craft for this board

[sonic phoenix]

yeah its not yet fully implemented

[arctic agate]

Its for EV anyway

[vestal nova]

and whats with that

[normal lantern]

recipe conflict, one takes 5 seconds, one takes .5s

[vestal nova]

ah okay

[sonic phoenix]

double description

12.2, haven't seen it mentioned in 12.3 changelogs though

[arctic agate]

Pyritie added the tooltip a second time I think 😂

[undone matrix]

when interacting with a storage block/item (could be just the straw basket since i don't have anything else) are my items supposed to slip out of my inventory and onto the ground if i don't click them in the dead center of the square?

in fact, they sometimes just slip out of my inventory no matter where i click them, seemingly at random

[sonic phoenix]

was it a gtm change or a tfg change that the washing cost got increased? either ways i would like to suggest reducing the costs to 250mb water/25mb distilled so that a fan setup could process an entire stack in one go, but if fan washing setups being only able to do 32 at a time is an intentional change, then it's probably fine to keep it that way

but it is kinda buggy since the 32 remaining unwashed ores won't get processed probably until the first set of outputs are removed

64*500mb=32,000
64*250mb=16,000
fans only have a 16,000mb internal tank

[sonic phoenix]

another ipn issue i guess, can't disable breeding

[sonic phoenix]

and brioche recipe isbroken

[cunning flint]

ooh is that why

[cunning flint]

alright I'll take a look

[cunning flint]

you can fix this one :p

[sonic phoenix]

checked kubejs, its 6 there but when done in game with either alpaca milk and cow milk, i still only get 5 buns don't think this is just a simple kubejs thing

i should check processor too wait

its 6 in the processor

[cunning flint]

it's a firmalife thing. The mixing bowl can only output 5 items max

[sonic phoenix]

ah ic

nothing can be done then?

or nothing easy rather

[cunning flint]

you could change the mixing bowl output to 5 instead of 6

at least it'll look less wrong then lol

[sonic phoenix]

true lol

i guess its easy enough to reach an even number with crafts of 5 anyways

probs gonna wait and ask redeix when he shows up, this is his addition right?

[cunning flint]

the brioche dough yeah

[modern skiff]

Loonnnggggg bellows (im playing in vr and that's why the screenshot is weird but that shouldn't change the block rendering i think)

its right as i was loading into the world

[arctic agate]

eh pretty sure VR is the cause

Insane to play TFG on VR though

I already feel the headache

[modern skiff]

it gives a whole different perspective on the new world gen it really is awesome

[viral torrent]

no, it happens sometimes when you load a chunk with bellows since 0.7

[plush patrol]

It also happens if you copy over a chunk with mca selector :p

[arctic agate]

so weird never encountered that

[viral torrent]

I saw it most often in 0.7

[cunning flint]

it happens sometimes

[halcyon forge]

VR can break almost anything

but I guess in this case it's not a VR problem

[neat glade]

https://terrafirmagreg-team.github.io/Field-Guide-Modern/en_us/firmalife/herbs_and_spices.html
Is that copy of we have in-game? So just chapter was changed or is smth wrong?
Here is screenshot of this chapter in 11.28

[cunning flint]

it was changed for 0.12

herbs are now in-world, and seed balls just plant grass

[plush patrol]

I just discovered that a horse keeps the extra step height from horseshoes even if they are removed

Even both me and the horse has no horseshoes in the inventory it can still run over fences

Hmm the speed also stays boosted

Removing hiking boots also doesn't seem to solve the issue

[cunning flint]

report it here please https://github.com/Traister101/Sacks-and-Such/issues

[tawny compass]

are computers from CC supposed to be locked behind HV?

the craft is MV but networking cables need HV assembler

0.11.28

[pulsar wadi]

Is it me or does that mod have a ton of problems lately

Same with sophisticated backpacks randomly wiping nbt data, albeit I've never had that in other modpacks

[plain tendon]

yea I've been seeing people saying their stuff getting wiped here and there for what it seems like no reason

[sonic phoenix]

kinda weird it started happening now with soph

[plain tendon]

I wonder what version started it all

[cunning flint]

we'd like to eventually move away from soph

[cunning flint]

the dev does fix the problems when they actually are reported on their github instead of just mentioned here

[pulsar wadi]

any plans to possibly add a feeding upgrade to digger's helmet if/when soph is removed?

[arctic agate]

It really feels like 0.12.1 was the beginning of the issue

I really wonder if it does sync with the sorting mod change

You changed 2 or 3 mods at that moment?

[pulsar wadi]

Sophisticated backpacks wiping NBT has been a thing since at least 0.11.25/26, at least thats when I managed to get foil packets and started encountering it

[arctic agate]

NBT issues have been a thing since NBT were made

[pulsar wadi]

ah ok

[arctic agate]

Sophisticated backpack has many issues but the NBT thing is just minecraft

[pulsar wadi]

oh yea AE2 also does it if I remember but its a 50/50 chance and depends on if its on a drive or not

[pulsar wadi]

if only TFG was on 1.21.1 then you could take advantage of the new Data Components that were added in 1.20.5 (I think KubeJS can work with them but theres still barely any documentation for post 1.21.1 kubejs)

[arctic agate]

yeah they seem much better

but TFG is likely to never be on 1.21.1

[warped vapor]

TFG 2

[pulsar wadi]

https://tenor.com/view/aunty-donna-billybumscud-stefanpaberzs-trash-gif-19515126

[cunning flint]

what do we think about the CC cables

[grand breach]

Lets just remove them

[pulsar wadi]

are they still really buggy???

they've been complete ass since like 1.12 CC

[grand breach]

they talking abt craft

[pulsar wadi]

computercraft yes?

[grand breach]

#1427052634036113530 message

[pulsar wadi]

ohhthat lol

I thought you were on about CC cables being extremely fucky and randomly disconnecting from peripherals, which has been an issue since the ancient times of 1.12

[pulsar wadi]

oh btw was simple voice chat supposed to be added to the pack in 0.12.5?

cause previously it was an optional mod? and I don't see any mention of its addition in changelogs

[cunning flint]

it was added in like 0.11.27 or something

official server wanted it

[pulsar wadi]

ah ok

[pulsar wadi]

but yea CC cables are basically the only way to do peripherals not directly next to a computer unless you use wireless modems

[viral torrent]

it gates computers in hv because of this recipe

[tawny compass]

why not replace the Ae2 cable by quartz fiber in it's craft?

[next pecan]

cut chert bricks are referenced as cut granite bricks in the create material list but works in the schematicanon (same item, 2 different names)
is this a bug report ? I can document it if needed

[cunning flint]

I renamed them to chert because they look more like chert than tfc granite

[next pecan]

yeah but the old name appears when you do a schematic and then get the material checklist in the schematicanon

[cunning flint]

hmm can you put in a bug for that then? there's probably another translation string missing

[plush patrol]

Is the scythe supposed to not be able to be used just for one block unless you configure it to do so?

[sonic phoenix]

...like the aoe?

[plush patrol]

Any other aoe tool you can use while shifting to affect just 1 block

[sonic phoenix]

the aoe adjustment isnt working for you?

or the hold-shift

the hold-shift to target only one block might've been overlooked when they added the scythe features

[plush patrol]

Yeah, the hold shift isn't working

Adjustment works fine

[sonic phoenix]

okay, probably best to make an issue to the github so they'll know and be able to keep track

[modern agate]

The default cooked pizza (first pic) doesn't have a firmalife oven recipe like the other pizzas do

[cunning flint]

known

[viral torrent]

Looks like smth that would be a part of an ARG xd

[arctic agate]

https://tenor.com/view/werewolf-gif-298315050893110907

[tawny compass]

So what is planned for computers in MV?

[cunning flint]

it's from tfc ruined world

[grand breach]

Herobrine 😱

[copper lily]

Is this infinite stick loop intended?

@Devs

[warped vapor]

whoever made that recipe forgot to put the count for the input items

[cunning flint]

what version are you on? I think I fixed that

[copper lily]

Latest

Also when outputing fluids from crucible through create pump to the mold table, metals cool instantly

Idk if this is intended

[arctic agate]

yeeeah kinda

I think it's described in the quest

That's something we never really fixed and it's kinda become a feature we keep for now

[round berry]

We'd get crucified if we fixed it

And most of us exploit it ourselves lol

[arctic agate]

There was this idea of using the create washer to replace it but it wouldn't fix the instant solidification

which is really really useful lol

[cunning flint]

yeah, I kinda want to replace it with something a little less cheesy but only if there's a good alternative for automating and scaling up. The casting channels are cool by themselves but they aren't really designed for gregtech levels of ingot costs lol

[arctic agate]

yeah if we ever fix it we should definitely have an alternative for casted channels

They are a bother to scale because the answer could just make 20 of them

but then they split perfectly between each other

Could always have a fluid solidifier running on cold materials ?

[cunning flint]

I know that one tfc + create compat mod managed to get fans working with casting tables

[arctic agate]

hmmm

[warped vapor]

Outside of the temperature side it’s also just easier to automate with a pump and a hopper compared to making a clock for the casting table

[cunning flint]

yeah, you'd need to put a chute under every table, which would also be annoying

[arctic agate]

Nah the worst is that if you have 6 casting tables

but made enough for 5 ingots

none of them will fill

I have bad memories from 0.5 or 0.6 whatever it is

I didn't know the pump trick

[indigo crag]

it seems like the venison drops for Caribou aren't really enabled? Ive killed 6 caribou and gotten 0 venison (or any other meat). Their EMI loot tables dont match the other deer types' format either (missing the 4-10 number, for example)

on a totally unrelated note, Ive been wondering if these "not the right stone type" ores are considered intended/expected or a bug atm. From what I can tell, the entire vein is determined to be X stone type (rhyolite in my pic) probably from the center/origin of the vein (there is rhyolite stone nearby in my example), but it can spread into other stone types and ends up with this out of place ore stone type issue

PS, I am on version 12.05, tho I think the world was generated in 12.03

[copper lily]

Domum ornamentum blocks don't have any tool associated with them, probably due to variable material that can be used to it's creation. Due to this, you can't mine them with any 3x3 tool. Can't we just tag them as pickaxe mined regardless of material? Or is this intentional limitation?

[cunning flint]

that's normal

[cunning flint]

report it to domum pls

[cunning flint]

just an oversight, github pls

[copper lily]

Sure

[frozen zenith]

Is the constant "might trigger collapse" issue on smooth stone a TFC issue? Even when it's placed on supported blocks (wood, bricks) this stone is constantly causing otherwise supported (with hardened raw stone) cave roofs to collapse

[cunning flint]

smooth stone can collapse and trigger collapses just like raw stone, so you can't go around and chisel caves to prevent caveins

[frozen zenith]

That's not what's happening, it looks like chiseled stone isn't being treated as a solid block

[raw walrus]

polyethylene recipe requires mv
pvc recipe requires lv

[vestal nova]

Polyethylene is now locked to mv

So you have to use bakelite

[plush patrol]

Drowned spawn in rivers at night and spam spears/tridents

[cunning flint]

does your river have a cave in it that they're swimming out of?

[plush patrol]

Could be, I blocked a small opening. Maybe that will fix it

[distant olive]

Bug: Redstone powered repackagers void any copper jars in the inventory attached

[viral torrent]

Factory logistics will be replaced because repackagers are completely broken with jars #3727

wait flop didn't flop #3727

#3727

weird

[distant olive]

I expected them to just ignore them bc I'm filtering the jars out with a conveyor on the same crate but oh well

[plain tendon]

thanks flop

[modern skiff]

The flame vine texture is broken in version 0.12.6

[cunning flint]

I thought I fixed that

[cunning flint]

well, now it's fixed, but uh, gonna have to wait until 0.12.7 lol

not gonna do a hotfix just for that

[frozen zenith]

I feel like this is something you can temporarily fix with a resource pack

[frozen zenith]

I made a temporary resource pack to fix this tremendous immersion breaker

[modern skiff]

V28???

[vital sandal]

Fairly certain that the "preview world" and generated world still don't match up. I am 5 for 5 now with 100% certain missmatch

[cunning flint]

is it just with the biomes?

[vital sandal]

No, coastlines, spawnpoint, temperatures, rocklayers, everything seems off as far as I can see

[cunning flint]

https://github.com/TerraFirmaGreg-Team/Modpack-Modern/issues/3950 someone else reported the same issue and the shapes are pretty similar

[vital sandal]

I wish to modify my last statement after more fiddling around. Coastline, biomes and spawn point are wrong, but temperatures and rocklayers are indeed correct

[warped vapor]

Spawn point I understand since we have our own system that I will integrate eventually. The other two sound like a mismatch between the seed used to GenViewer and the world generation. Does the viewer in game line up properly?

[indigo crag]

Lentil soup is made from 2 soybeans and 0 lentils, even though lentils are now in the game. And before a simple recipe swap, consider that soybeans are the only(?) veggie in the game that gives protein, and lentil soup also gives both grain and protein even though no grain foods are added to it.

honestly, maybe lentils should have protein added to them to be similar to soybeans? and also swap the recipe so lentil soup has lentils in it? The grain aspect of lentil soup confuses me as well.

[cunning flint]

is lentil soup a tfc gourmet thing

[indigo crag]

yes

[cunning flint]

that'd explain it lol

[vestal nova]

?

[grand breach]

whats wrong

[vestal nova]

ah okay

i see

no problem

idk why i thought it was 1 bucket of nitrogen dioxide

[mystic cove]

putting fruit on porridge duplicates the bowl, is this intended?

idek if a bowl-duping glitch is useful

[arctic agate]

eh yeah we know about that one too

[mystic cove]

ok cool lmao

[modern agate]

MV biomass quest doesnt have a checkmark completion option like other quests that require fluids so you have to just get a bucket of it for the quest

[shrewd hamlet]

Yeah it's a little annoying, I'd be fine with -any- fluid container containing the liquid (So I don't have to empty my water bucket all the time and pick up a fluid for the quest) or all of them just having the checkmark

[arctic agate]

chill that's just one we forgot

[shrewd hamlet]

Yeah can happen

[arctic agate]

most if not all the fluid quests have a check mark

[shrewd hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-glass-cute-cute-cat-cat-in-glass-gif-7716823274462348253

[cunning flint]

it's possible to set them up as accepting any fluid container but it's very fiddly

you basically have to set up a filter for any of three different types of containers

it's annoying for us to add, and annoying for players to deal with

so... checkmark lol

[grand breach]

noooo

[shrewd hamlet]

Yeah checkmark works like a charm, also eliminates the need to complicate things

[plush patrol]

Is it intended that the bronze multiblock tank can't keep up with 60mb/tick steam consumption?

Small gold pipes have 100mb/tick so they are fine

But whenever I try to run anything over 50 or so mb/tick it gets bottlenecked

[vestal nova]

Direction the pipe

[plush patrol]

Same issue

Every single one is directioned

Without the multiblock (going straight from large boiler) it is fine even without directions

[arctic agate]

Maybe you could try to add a pump

the multiblock tank could have a limitation on its auto output

[plush patrol]

Yeah, that could be the case

Could a tooltip saying there is a limit be added?

[arctic agate]

Did a pump fix it?

[plush patrol]

Nope

It really looks like about 50mb/tick is the limit

[vestal nova]

I had 2 mv turbines running out of it

[plush patrol]

Weird

[vestal nova]

Are you sure you dont have some sneaky tiny pipe or something

[plush patrol]

Nope, only small ones

Which again, handle 100mb/tick no problem straight form lbb

Only when using multiblock tank does the problem occur

I guess it could be because my multiblock for some reason keeps spazing out like this

All the valves connected to pipes are directioned

Only the "output" one is buggy

[arctic agate]

did you try putting it under?

[plush patrol]

If you are talking about the pump, yes

[arctic agate]

the hatch I mean

[plush patrol]

It is facing down

I could try removing the other valve I use for input

Maybe that could help

Nope

I also replaced the entire thing a few times and this problem persists

New worlds too

[arctic agate]

I've no idea I will look into it later

[vestal nova]

wait

how do you instert the steam

2 hatches?

[cunning flint]

I'd still suggest bigger pipes

100mb/t is 50eu/t which is less than 2A

not very useful

[plush patrol]

1 Valve for input and 1 for output

[vestal nova]

Maybe try to

Pump the steam into the controller

And try it with one hatch

[plush patrol]

I tried removing a hatch and it did nothing sadly

[plush patrol]

Yeah, but enough for basic steam needs

(atleast for now)

[plush patrol]

I could also try to rebuild the thing again, this time pumping steam ONLY through the controller

Maybe doing it through a hatch bugs it out or smth

[round berry]

Fixed

[plush patrol]

Doing it through the controller does not fix it, also I noticed that using higher throughput pipes makes the issue worse

Small steel pipes have double throughput of gold, so now the tank jumps by 2k instead of 1 lmao

(ignore the blown boiler xd)

[grand breach]

oh

its a pipe thing

i saw the same one with ae2

cuz input side cant be blocked, hatch pushes steam into pipe and pipe pushes into all sides it can, including the hatch side

[plush patrol]

Yeah, I tested the other tank types and the issue persists

So I guess if you want to use the multiblock tank you have to account for the loss of half the throughput

[plush patrol]

I would guess the valve/controller auto-inputs, since even if the pipes are made one way it still spazes out

Should I report this to gtm?

[grand breach]

nope, valve doesnt pipe does that

[plush patrol]

I have never seen pipes behave like that for anything other than this multi

Especially if made one-way

[grand breach]

i saw

the same thing with ae2 interface

[plain tendon]

put a filter to only allow one way ig

can make an issue on gtm tho

[grand breach]

Meow meow meow meow meow meow

i think incaloy has fucked up temp, cuz they need rwm coils at ev power but it works on nichrome

Ruthenium tungsten molybdenum

rtm alloy

[arctic agate]

Most likely due to OC

[grand breach]

it uses 2 hv hatches

[copper lily]

Refractory Clay Dust can only be smelted in steam furnace, not in electric one

[viral torrent]

have you tried?

emi sometimes shows it weirdly

[copper lily]

Yep, don't work

[haughty tundra]

tfc gourmet cheeses (brinza) can not be made into shredded cheeses

[cunning flint]

works for me

[copper lily]

Maybe it was repaired in newest version, i tested it on last one

[indigo crag]

some of the greate milling recycling recipes seem excessively OP, resulting in relatively easy mass duping of resources. I first noticed and tested the Steel Mechanical Saw, which gives this result:

• 26 rubber, 12 copper, 8 steel, 7 tin, 6 iron, 4 cobalt brass

What I spent to make the saw was more like:

• 2 rubber, 2 copper, 1 steel, 0 tin, 11 iron (10 with later tech), 2 cobalt brass, 1 red alloy, 2 lead (0 with later tech), and a smidge of wood/glass stuff in the circuits.

I have never in my life owned 26 rubber, and it is a great wealth to me atm. It got me curious and it seems like there may be similar issues with other mill recycling recipes, although Im early in the game yet and dont have great perspective.

[arctic agate]

There is a lot of duping with recycling

it's a bother to fix

[cunning flint]

known issue, will be fixed in gtm8

[analog pier]

if you find a dupe for titanium and other expensive materials then be sure to report that

otherwise it's just something that can't be fixed without insane amounts of manual work

[indigo crag]

TIL titanium is where things become "expensive" :) #earlygamelife

[analog pier]

duping items in your singleplayer world hurts nobody, I'm just concerned about server experience

[indigo crag]

I get that, lol, I was just laughing at myself

[echo aspen]

Centrifuge Rosin can get 10 more plant balls, which is too much.

tfg/primitive/recipes.rubber.js

    event.recipes.gtceu.centrifuge('tfg:centrifuge_rosin')
        .itemInputs('tfg:conifer_rosin')
        .outputFluids(Fluid.of('gtceu:glue', 50))
        .itemOutputs('2x #forge:dusts/carbon')
        .itemOutputs('4x gtceu:plant_ball')
        .chancedOutput('8x gtceu:plant_ball', 7500, 0)
        .duration(20 * 20)
        .EUt(GTValues.VA[GTValues.LV])

[arctic agate]

That’s intended

I want rosin to shine there as other methods were nerf

[cunning flint]

idk still feels nonsensical for tree wax to give something you normally get from, yknow, leafy plant things

and normally you get more than enough plant balls from saplings alone lol

[arctic agate]

That’s base GTm to get it from resin Pyritie

Also the other methods were nerf and that was a way to have a buff somewhere

While giving an advantage to conifer

It’s also been that ways since more that 6 months and no one even notice

So no it’s not too strong

And no it’s not non sensical

[cunning flint]

that's not relevant

[cunning flint]

it's like saying saliva can be turned into ground meat

[arctic agate]

I don’t even think plant ball exists

[grand breach]

does it HAVE to use only lithium batteries?

[cunning flint]

how can we tell what the recipe is if it's covered up

[analog pier]

some wireless terminal looks like

[arctic agate]

I would bet on the extended pattern terminal with the iridium rod

kinda funny that it uses the HV lithium battery though

may be something I never change I gonna fix that tonight

[grand breach]

oh lol sorgy, its extended pattern acces terminal

i copy pasted wrong screen

and discord replied to other message ig

[haughty tundra]

the steam furnace smelts chalcopyrite directly int eingosts even though the dust isnt 144mb copper

[plain tendon]

intended

[grand breach]

Noooo dont tell them

[haughty tundra]

brinza cheese does not work for most cheese recipes because it is not in the #firmalife:foods/cheeses tag

[analog pier]

indeed unintended, brinza cheese will be getting removed

[haughty tundra]

noooooooo

[sonic phoenix]

hello its me again, the greate change that made the fan internal tank match the ore washer internal tank actually reduced it and now it can't wash a full stack again

new buffer is only 8,000mb, you need 16,000mb with the current cost of 250mb water
changing the cost to 125mb would fix it and enable full stack washing again

[cunning flint]

[bright nimbus]

use distilled water

[tawny compass]

is it normal than endermen can spawn in the ice sheet tuyas biomes underground (maybe only on blue ice?)

also husks spawn there too

and floral enderman, in ice...

smth very wrong i think i got chorus fruits from it, i'm mv

[cunning flint]

intended

[tawny compass]

oh ok

even husks?

[cunning flint]

yeah unless you wanna go back to only ever seeing the same 4 mobs underground

[tawny compass]

understandable

[grand breach]

meow

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