TFG 0.9 ALPHA - PLAY TEST

[digital mason]

fucking firmalife

[urban portal]

It’s somewhere in the documentation

They could tell you but I can’t lol

[crystal parrot]

what could be causing this? i'm trying to start the dev branch instance after pulling

[urban portal]

That’s our culprit for saplings lol

[digital mason]

ok so I don't think I can fix the firmalife stovetop pot thing because it only does soup recipes
and soup recipes don't have any "output items", just that vague soup thing you can rclick with a bowl

firmalife moment

[crystal parrot]

yep

the completely baffling thing is firmalife adds pot recipes to cook rice grains

but they don't work in the stovetop either

because it's not a soup

i don't remember if there's even a vat recipe for those

[urban portal]

Damn I thought they reworked firmalife

But it’s still the same mess

[digital mason]

I have nebby's server on its own instance instead of in the main dev workspace

[crystal parrot]

oh i know im just trying to look at something

trying to see if i can fix hotornot's issues

[digital mason]

I did just buff its items durability by x3 btw

[crystal parrot]

x3... heh

i'm trying to see if the vessels/molds burning you can be fixed

same with the food coming out of ovens burning you without tongs, i honestly think they shouldn't be burning you at all

[digital mason]

yeah the oven thing is the most annoying

the vessels/molds... well they are holding molten metal

[crystal parrot]

clay's enough of an insulator that it shouldn't matter imo

[digital mason]

although, for the oven thing, I guess that's why these exist?

[crystal parrot]

i guess so?

ive used the leather mittens for cooking a lot

[peak peak]

Is vessel supposed to burn when i try to melt copper in pit kiln?

[urban portal]

I think it’s fine it does burn irl :p

For food we should be able to use the item from firmalife for bread

Forgot the name

[crystal parrot]

peel?

[urban portal]

Yes

That’s the one

[crystal parrot]

yeah the peel should work as an offhand insulating tool but only for foods

[urban portal]

Or Burlap Potholder I guess

[crystal parrot]

i wish hotornot was a little more configurable

[urban portal]

Maybe we are just missing an item we didn’t know about

[crystal parrot]

😭 😭

[urban portal]

The metal tongs also have terrible durability

Which really push you to use the glitch with the glass’ one

[digital mason]

yeah that's why I buffed them

[urban portal]

oh nice I didn't understand

[empty walrus]

hi guys,how much memory should I allocate for my minecraft instance?

its saying that it needs more but like,I already gave it 12000m

[digital mason]

I usually use 8-12

[urban portal]

I think 8gb is way more than enough

[shut zodiac]

Is it normal that you can't select resources or write them in the search in Ore Prospector?

The resource window is not active. Or am I doing something wrong?

[empty walrus]

I think that I will wait until 0.9 goes out of alpha

[toxic nova]

So from main channel. I don't have any experience with lava processing yet myself but... should volcanoes be valid for infinite lava? There are smaller and larger ones but they seem to average out around 500 blocks worth of lava.

[left flax]

Underground lakes should have better volumes no?

[toxic nova]

they do indeed

[left flax]

They were the intended sources aswell

[toxic nova]

and they are sources, and that's not a problem. the question was if volcanoes are intended to be as well or not

[urban portal]

Depend of TFC implantation of volcanos

[left flax]

To be honest nobody really thought about it

[urban portal]

You need pool of lava

[left flax]

But it does seem like they are not viable

[urban portal]

Is there a pool of lava big enough under every volcano?

Im not sure

[left flax]

Somebody calculated the average in 1.20 chat en

#💬│modern-chat-en message

Dk how accurate this is

[toxic nova]

I believe tom was referring to a source of lava, a lava lake beneath the volcano, not the amount of tiles of lava contained/available on the surface of a volcano

[bright edge]

even 4 worked for me in singleplayer. I only needed to allocate 8 for lan mp.

[left flax]

There's lakes beneath valcanos?🤔

I thought the lake on the top was the whole source

[toxic nova]

there are not, hence the "depends on tfc implementation of volcanos" part

[left flax]

Ahhh I see

[urban portal]

Honestly I don’t how doable it is but it would be nice if we are able to add a lava lake under each volcano

I would have made a multiblock that works only on a volcano but there is no biome for volcano

I mean there is

But it’s not linked to the volcano structure 😦

[digital mason]

I did think about volcanoes but yeah they're just really shallow

[bright edge]

is it just me or is there no reason for the lamps quest to be dependent on a t6 anvil?

[urban portal]

There is biome for volcano but it’s not connected to actual volcano 😅

[toxic nova]

baked potatoes aren't hot after you bake them (this is wonderful for stacking)

also... it seems like meat transfers it's expiration to the cooked meat? can that be applied to stuff like grains and pumpkins?

[digital mason]

it does as long as you use tfc things to do it

I did fix the pumpkin exploit

as for the potato thing, idk

[cloud shadow]

needs an event.itemheat method

at least to add heating. But i dont think you can remove it from other items

[ionic thicket]

so is brick

you get cold brick after cooking some unfired brick fresh out of forge

[bright edge]

same with eggs

[toxic nova]

doing a new run in 0.9.1 - workbench quest got stuck from "time for workbench", the any planks task didn't register. even though i did have them at some point and i do have a workbench

[shut zodiac]

Hello. Can I make the Ore Protector interface available by myself? Currently I can only see the resource map and nothing else works.

[digital mason]

which planks did you have?

[digital mason]

I don't understand what you mean, sorry

[shut zodiac]

And that's it. I can't choose anything. On the server and locally.

[digital mason]

choose?

[shut zodiac]

I can't choose

[digital mason]

what do you mean by choose

[shut zodiac]

In version 0.7.19, when Ore Prospector opened, I could select any ore or write the ore I was interested in in the filter. Now I can't do this. That is, resource filtering does not work

[digital mason]

oh the filter!

sorry, I just woke up

[urban portal]

I had the same issue

Well I still have the same issue

[digital mason]

might be a bug in this version of gregtech

[drifting dawn]

Is this supposed to finish ever?

It's been boiling for 3:30 straight

[digital mason]

the pot is very slow

[drifting dawn]

Okay, it finishes, takes 5 min tho

[digital mason]

vat very recommended

though I guess you're working on making the rosin for your vat haha

[drifting dawn]

Exactly. Is it possible you could add the process timers to the vat/pot so it's more obvious that there's a huge advantage?

[digital mason]

Like in JEI? that's not something I know how to do unfortunately

would be a question for the tfc/firmalife devs

[drifting dawn]

Aight, okay, not a big issue anyhow

[urban portal]

It doesn't seem like it as it works fine in other packs

[digital mason]

no idea then 😔

[drifting dawn]

Found a small tag error in one of the quest texts

[digital mason]

what's wrong with it?

oh the latex logs

fixed

[drifting dawn]

Graphite is bordeline impossible to find without doing so randomly while caving.
I see if I go 50 + blocks below the surface, then surface indicators can spawn in caves and tunnels, after which I have to dig further 50 or so blocks to hit the graphite veins, but otherwise only way I've been able to find it is with a GT ore prospector

[urban portal]

I think the idea is to explore the tunnel to find it

[drifting dawn]

I can see on the ore prospector however that it sometimes doesn't spawn in any 6x6 chunk radius however. So just going caving would not be a reliable way of finding it

For instance, here where I've settled on the test world - there is no veins in an 11x11 chunk grid.

Going 22 chunks further to the left, i still find nothing

[digital mason]

I did just increase the amount of indicators it generates as well as add it to every stone type. Before it was only doing it in metamorphic and igneous intrusive

[drifting dawn]

Ah, I understood that 0.9.1 already had it spawn in all stone types. That would explain why I'm not finding anything then

[digital mason]

yeah, I thought I did that but I just checked and I didn't. So now it's fixed

[drifting dawn]

I found it in Gneiss, Gabbro, and Granite

Also dunno if reported already, but the plank + workbench + barrel quests all only finished on a certain wood type.
I made all from sycamore, which for whatever reason did not count. Only when I made a fir plank later, all of the autocompleted

[digital mason]

🤔

[urban portal]

Sycamore is in the right tag though

it should work

[toxic nova]

mine was pine it seems

[serene quiver]

oops

my bad

the idea is that the bluesteel lamp is supposed to be locked behind the T6 anvil

not the regular lamp quest

[digital mason]

I don't think the bluesteel lamp quest needs an anvil dependendency

like... you can't craft it until then anyway

and cross-chapter dependencies just cause issues

[bright edge]

theyre easy to miss

[crystal parrot]

i think bluesteel lamps can just be a "here's a cool upgrade if you want one" passing mention

theyre not as essential anymore anyway because we have glowstone now

[urban portal]

kinda sad

[digital mason]

I'm not sure how to change it 🤔

could just remove the eternal candles

that could give creosote some use again as well

[urban portal]

eternal candles definitely breaks the feeling of progression

yeah using creosote would make sense and we have so much of it I think that's the case for anyone

[digital mason]

maybe we could change the simplylights recipes to use glowstone blocks instead of dust, too? since glowstone blocks you can't get until steam machines

(and I can remove the blocks from the bastions too)

[urban portal]

what about these ones also?

[digital mason]

yeah them too

[cloud shadow]

Yeah those recipes were added before the beneath, so glowstone was a lot harder to get then

[distant bronze]

btw pyrite what's the status of .9 full release, still having issues with copyright?

[digital mason]

nope it looks like it's up on curseforge now

[distant bronze]

so will it get a server hosted?

[cloud shadow]

Xikaro should probably make an announcement about that

[urban portal]

these structures are really cool

[digital mason]

I'm guessing only once it leaves alpha, the official server was never updated to 0.8 either

[cloud shadow]

Thanks! I already looted that one tho lol

[urban portal]

Well it was cool visiting

In winter that's actually pretty nice to do a break

[bright edge]

there was a 0.8 version?

[digital mason]

exactly

[toxic nova]

the knife head anvil recipes seem to be doubled up, with different recipes

accident?

[digital mason]

ah, yeah looks like one ID even has butchery head, which would also explain the missing butchery head recipes

[jovial parrot]

How can I fix this? It appeared after I ported my save from 0.9 to 0.9.1

[toxic nova]

and did you see anything suspicious in your logs?

[jovial parrot]

I don't know where to find the log

[digital mason]

that's normal to get when updating - relog and see if it still appears

[jovial parrot]

Still getting the same message

[toxic nova]

lots of leafless chestnut trees in the lowlands. is this normal?

[digital mason]

yep

the lowland/marshy areas have a lot of those for whatever reason

normal tfc thing

[obsidian laurel]

i think they're supposed to be trees in the process of dying

I see lots of fallen trees in marshlands too

[hardy valley]

Its still there after relog, but no visible errors at all

[digital mason]

send your log?

[ionic thicket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167131539046400010/1364067611482132480/image.png?ex=68085275&is=680700f5&hm=52a33e0d8400f90fa712229e4ad576e521c37f478402ebe51e433d6b4748faac&

from ohhhLuna , we found that brine was not talk about when it comes to smoking hte meat

the meat need to be brine for you to smoke the meat and was not said in the quest

[toxic nova]

either the text is wrong or the recipe is supposed to be salted instead of brined in the first place

or both

[ionic thicket]

it need to be brine for the longest time like how i made my bacon with smoke pork

[urban portal]

Salted Brined Smoked then conserved into Vinegar ?

[ionic thicket]

but maybe it also needed salt ?

[urban portal]

And smelt in a Firmalife oven

I think salt is optional though

[ionic thicket]

some one test if smoke only need brine or it need both brine and salt

tho i think you only needed brine only for you to smoke, maybe someone have it test

apparently some meat dont need to be salted to smoke

#💬│modern-chat-en message

we are getting some bear meat in 0.9 never knew that was now a thing

but brine, we need that for sure all meat need brine but was not state on the quest so, change for 0.9.2

[jovial parrot]

Tested Bear, Pork, Frog Leg, Grouse and Mutton all did not work without being brined regardless of being salted or not

[jovial parrot]

Same for Wolf and Beef

[coral copper]

machine chips arent working for me they are getting mixed withe the output instead of their own slot

[toxic nova]

scaffolding frame can't use wool cloth, overridden by painting recipe

silk cloth too

[cloud shadow]

this is known, thanks

[gleaming imp]

cant you use polymorph?

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/polymorph

[gleaming imp]

^

[cloud shadow]

We avoid using polymorph since it feels unpolished and kinda sloppy if there's a bunch of recipe conflicts

[digital mason]

chips?

[rain edge]

the game crashed when i turned on the multiblock miner, it had 2 EV energy hatches

and a batbuf with 4 EV lapotrons pointing into the hatches

[urban portal]

Im on my phone but I’m afraid it has something to do with the ores

[rain edge]

fuuuck

how do i uncrash my world now?

it just crashes again and again

[urban portal]

Remove the chunk

[rain edge]

that will kill my miner too :(

[urban portal]

You didn’t move your Large Miner with some kind of Create thing ?

Yeah but

[rain edge]

not at all

[urban portal]

Backup?

[rain edge]

nope im gonna take one now

im just gonna try to uncrash it before tho

just in case it isnt the ores

[digital mason]

remove the chunk then creative your stuff back

the mining machines are broken in 0.9.1 so it might be trying to crush nothing, thus the exception

[rain edge]

yep, thats it probably

are the single block miners broken too?

[urban portal]

dunno

it crashed for me too

[digital mason]

put this file in your kubejs/server_scripts/gregtech folder and it should fix the miners

[rain edge]

youre the best man

i hope i didnt lose my miner

[urban portal]

what was it?

the miner was crashing when trying to mine some ores?

[rain edge]

do i replace the old loot.js folder?

[urban portal]

the file yeah

[rain edge]

file sorry lol

[urban portal]

it fixes the crash you can go back on your save

Pyritie saves the day!

[rain edge]

we love pyritie

back to mining bauxite and ilmenite i go!

yep its fixed

love u pyritie

[digital mason]

the single block miners just mine nothing because my loot tables for ores were only checking the mainhand tool of the player

[urban portal]

oh

[digital mason]

I did that so hitting them with a hammer still gave you cobble

with this fix, the hammer now gives nothing, but like, the cobble was already basically useless so

it's whatever

[shut zodiac]

While completing the quest, I saw that the crucible on the quest was steel. While it is needed for bronze. Will it be moved to bronze. I did not see any other way to mix copper/tin

[digital mason]

the intended way is to mix it in a small vessel

[quiet tree]

Hi, I would like to help testing this version, but I don't know how to install it. I use Curseforge, but I can't do an automatic install. Therefore I must download a file from Githug. Which? The "Curseforge" file is enough? And then, only unzipping this file as a new instance is enough?

[digital mason]

leave the file as a zip, then open curseforge and hit the "import" button and select the zip file

it'll download all the mods for you

[quiet tree]

That's easy, Great. Thanks. And congratulations for the nice work.

[drifting dawn]

How are you all currently feeling on the implementation of horse power in the pack? I feel like it adds very little and you basicly skip right past it to regular create and greate

[toxic nova]

You can use it if you want. Millstone and tree farming is available before steel. And the water exploit for water wheels is going away

[drifting dawn]

What do you mean water exploit for water wheels? Will they stop working with water or?

[hardy valley]

https://mclo.gs/jWVfc6y

[digital mason]

[21:17:29] [Worker-ResourceReload-14/ERROR] [minecraft/TagLoader]: [Load My Fucking Tags] Couldn't load certain entries with the tag additionalplacements:minecraft/vertical_stairs: additionalplacements:create_connected.wrapped_copycat_stairs (from file/additional_placements_generated_tags)

I have no idea what a wrapped copycat stairs is

[topaz sigil]

i think it's where you let one source flow down perpendicular to a vertical stack of horizontal water wheels

[digital mason]

I think they mean moving water source blocks with a saw and ice

[hardy valley]

idk never used it 😄

[digital mason]

well, either way it looks safe to ignore

[coral copper]

the computer chip for crafting goes from 0-40 i dont remember what they were called

[toxic nova]

Yes moving water as ice so you can have water anywhere

The horse crank becomes a little more relevant early if you don't have convenient flowing water

[urban portal]

It’s a good change but well there is still water everywhere

[dawn rapids]

will they add find it key?

[tawny urchin]

wait what. you can pickup ice?

[left flax]

Yes with a saw

[tawny urchin]

and if i break the ice, a water source comes out?!?

[left flax]

Yes

That's how I transported water for my wheels when I first started

[tawny urchin]

in 0.9.1?

sorry was using gem saw, now i see it worked w normal saw ty

[urban portal]

It's fixed in the next update

not intended behaviour :p

[tawny urchin]

the ice?

[urban portal]

yeah

[tawny urchin]

fuck.

[toxic nova]

Well it's not too bad. Aqueducts are still a thing, or literally any single tile of water you can just dig around to get it flowing

[tawny urchin]

its gonan sound bad, i just like it because it looks neater

[urban portal]

You can make the bucket

[tawny urchin]

yeah not a bad idea, im about to be at that stage

[coral copper]

anyone else think that clockwork would be better for the planes?

[left flax]

Really? I thought it was intended for water transportation 😭

[left flax]

People are stupid and will put gregtech stuff on it

Also because it's a little unstable

[toxic nova]

these glowing cubes don't actually give off light. i'm rather sad about that

[left flax]

Maybe it needs be framed?🤔

[coral copper]

fair

damn my hazmat just broke i feel like if you change the filter it should repair it

[urban portal]

Well there is a bucket for that and it's the final item of TFC

[toxic nova]

there now i can pretend they make light

[toxic nova]

ugh... does the digger helmet not give ambient light either?

[cloud shadow]

It does. I believe it's a setting in the video setting? Or it's a config. Can't remember

[toxic nova]

wohoo thanks. the handheld torch didn't need that

oh the handheld one was on by default just entity lighting is off huh

[coral copper]

eucalyptus beams bugged in inventory

[toxic nova]

hmm the millstone craft didn't consume my handstone. normal bronze gear

[cloud shadow]

wym? looks fine for me

[cloud shadow]

lol. the handstone has durability so when the recipes parses as damage.ingredients it just damages it instead of consuming

seems like it was marked done, but not fixed https://github.com/TerraFirmaGreg-Team/Modpack-Modern/issues/900

[toxic nova]

maybe done for 0.9.2

[cloud shadow]

most likely

[digital mason]

oops no that wasn't done

[coral copper]

what aint no way all the beam textures are bugged for me when they are in my inventory

[cloud shadow]

like the support beams? can you post a screen shot?

[sullen jay]

not sure if people noticed yet, field guide still says charcoal for blast furnace

[coral copper]

i tried going to the beneath and i just sat there was wondering if i need to do anything before i go there?

All beams from arbon are like that for me

[digital mason]

fixed

[digital mason]

the bedrock thing only works in survival

[digital mason]

that's something for the texture pack you're using, there's a thread in the forums for it

[spiral bison]

emi version listed in release notes is still 1.1.20 not 1.1.22

[digital mason]

oops I forgor

[quiet tree]

To pick up the hot items from the Pit Kiln a wooden tongs are needed? Shouldn't this be indicated in the Pit Kiln or Metallic Saw inputs of the Quest?

[tawny urchin]

doesnt it say to make the blowpipe?

i might be tripping its been a minute since i started

[quiet tree]

It doesn't say anything (that I saw). And now I realise that you can't craft the wooden tongs until making the workbench... So how do you do to take the hot vessel with the molten copper to make the Saw and make the workbench?

[tawny urchin]

knap a unfired blowpipe out of clay then fire that

[quiet tree]

Ah, yes, it's true!!! But that should be said somewhere.

[tiny token]

Two sticks and a knife in your 2x2 crafting gives you a knife. Crafting table is not needed

[distant bronze]

u dont you can make wooden tongs with 2x2 crafting

[tiny token]

Not a knife sorry, tongs

[tawny urchin]

either way i recommend the blowpipe as youll use it later on for glass blowing

[quiet tree]

The JEI recipes says to craft the Tongs in the 3x3 crafting. Anyways, the use of Tongs to grab hot items should be indicated somewhere.

[digital mason]

already fixed

[digital mason]

it's shapeless crafting, it'll fit in a 2x2

[bright edge]

thats not a thing anymore?

[tawny urchin]

it is butits being removed

[inner basin]

does 0.9chagne oregen

[tawny urchin]

yes im pre sure it changes graphite, not sure what else

[spiral bison]

graphite actually not impossible to find :0?

[tawny urchin]

it is

its found in deep flat discs or smthn

but if youre struggling to much go to the nether

wait

the beneath

youll find enemies called graphite klaze

theyre usually near graphite veins

[tawny urchin]

whoops i misread this as is impossible

im retarded

in overworld im pre sure it makes graphite harder to find

[spiral bison]

well at least the beneath helps

[tawny urchin]

i think someone said something about how its a certain depth required

[tawny urchin]

its fucking aids as a solo

cave spiders, beatles, piglins, klazes

[spiral bison]

ah combat, the thing i have completely avoided in my world... funnn

[tawny urchin]

make a grappling hook and a bow

[spiral bison]

become the skeleton spider

[tawny urchin]

i found a crossbow in a bastion, now all i do is grapple to the roof and shoot at them all

[spiral bison]

ig toss it in for the next patch

[stark imp]

Hey guys, quick question. Is there an option to turn on 1 block infinite lava in this version?

[urban portal]

I think you need to get into tfg.core so it's not that simple

but we changed it to 2k for good reasons

You will find tons of infinite lava lake under your base

Also be wary that Large Boilers explodes when loading world

[stark imp]

I know. I understand why but I'd prefer to have it that way tbh

[urban portal]

you can cheat a creative tank with lava in it

that would end up being the same thing

[stark imp]

Fair. Thanks

[urban portal]

Be wary of the explosion!

[jade zephyr]

have fun with these dumb crashes please fix this ABF tap somehow pleaase ;-;

[urban portal]

Do you have a backup?

if it's due to ABF I don't know if the fix should come from them or not

Well I can't tell you much wait for someone competent to come help you lol

[digital mason]

alloy blast furnace

[coral copper]

i am in survival

[ionic thicket]

stand on top of bedrock when u mine down

only work when player is in survival mode

[digital mason]

you might need to go a little deeper, like one or two blocks below the uppermost bedrock

it checks your Y level basically

[coral copper]

My fault I explained bad I already did that after I got the second message I didn’t get teleported

[toxic nova]

Second message is like halfway there

It takes 30 seconds total I think

[toxic nova]

metal casing cogwheels doesn't consume the casing. intended? (not complaining though!)

[digital mason]

that's intended yeah since it's just for decoration

it's a base create thing

[toxic nova]

ok. hm. well very useful to compact and isolate combo gears to boost rpm before the speed controller. I feel like in 0.7 it ate the iron plate

[digital mason]

nah I definitely remember encasing most of my cogs in 0.7 too 😅

[toxic nova]

ok nm then!

[jade zephyr]

NONE.

i think

i dont usally make backups because THIS NEVER HAPPENS

[tawny urchin]

bottom of bastions are full fo gems

alright guys whats an easy way to find coal or the other fuel that burns at white

[toxic nova]

Look for carbon sources like graphite and diamonds, coal will probably be there too

Easy to find in the beneath, but dangerous. Harder to find on the overworld, since surface indicators for graphite don't show up anymore. I don't know if the coal or diamond indicators do or not. If they do, I haven't seen them.

[ionic thicket]

charcoal + bellow

[tawny urchin]

coal indicators show, i found some'

[tawny urchin]

yeah im struggling

water just runs out

should i place it closer to a river or smthn

someone teach me this fr fr

just a liquid boiler and a forge hammer

ive just never reached this stage so im very lost

[toxic nova]

water runs out for steam? pump from a source block that's between two other source blocks

it will regenerate like vanilla minecraft

if you need water source blocks you can still use a saw on ice and melt it somewhere else for now...

[drifting dawn]

Create pumps remove the source block they "suck" from. To get infinte water, have atleast 3 water blocks next to each other and suck on the middle of the blocks.

For lava, now you need a hose pulley and a lake or basin of atleast 2000 source blocks, for the pulley to consider it infinte

[toxic nova]

I think I know why I was confused about the alternate fire brick recipe and thinking it was missing. emi doesn't show compressed fireclay being able to be used for anything

[digital mason]

ah, it should probably just be hidden then - that's usually used for gt's own blast furnace multi

[tawny urchin]

will do thanks

[tawny urchin]

oh no. i need lava?

[digital mason]

you don't need lava

[buoyant canyon]

hi, my blast furnace won't accept charcoal. Am I doing something wrong, I haven't played in a while?

[digital mason]

yes, in 0.9 it needs coke instead 👍

[buoyant canyon]

Ah, thanks!

[digital mason]

don't forget the flux either!

[buoyant canyon]

yup

[fresh rune]

any guesses on when will 0.9 leave alpha?

also, why didnt the server update to 0.8

[drifting dawn]

0.8 was borderline unplayable

[fresh rune]

oof didnt know that, why is it bad?

[drifting dawn]

There was issues with oregen and such. I think people went back to continue to update 0.7 from .14 until .19 with many smaller or larger fixes

[digital mason]

pretty much

0.9 is a mix of 0.8+0.7

[obsidian laurel]

0.8 is the middle generation we don't talk about, the George II Joestar of TFG

[crystal parrot]

nice reference

[left flax]

nice reference indeed

[frigid canopy]

I just installed 0.9.1, any idea why the vanilla video settings are missing? I've got Oculus, FPS Reducer, Sodium Extras, and Sodium Dynamic Lights but I can't change things like render distance or GUI scale

[urban portal]

Click on 2nd tab on the left

It’s within of the category

[frigid canopy]

Oh, I must have overlooked it so many times lol
Thanks!

[frigid canopy]

I've travelled about 5000 blocks south and the temperature/rainfall are still 10c/250mm. Is that right?

[distant bronze]

have you messed with world gen in any way perhaps>

[frigid canopy]

Nope, just Distant Horizons, Bad Mobs, and Immersive Portals (which I'm not even sure will work the way I want yet)

[distant bronze]

idk then, also why I portals when theres no nether/end portals lol

[tiny token]

^

[frigid canopy]

Oh shit you're right, i was just excited for nether and forgot the change in getting there lol

[distant bronze]

lmao

[frigid canopy]

maybe I'll just try making a new world

[distant bronze]

why tho

[toxic nova]

depends on where you started.

[frigid canopy]

I had used creative to fly a long ways in a few different directions and the average temperature/rainfall didn't change. After making a new world it changes every few chunks

[distant bronze]

prob a world issue

[toxic nova]

silk clothes seem rather expensive. anyone made them for the nether?

or i wonder if the butchery knife works on spider string drops...

[digital mason]

there's a whole biome full of spiderwebs

[toxic nova]

yeah i've been collecting them. it's taking a while. that's why i wondered if anyone else actually did it

[digital mason]

do they only give 1 string each? I can always up their loot table if need be

otherwise piglins trade for string and bastion chests have cloth too

[distant bronze]

id make it 1-4 depending on tool tier

[digital mason]

not how loot tables work, at least not without writing out every single tool down

[toxic nova]

why do deep cave endermen hate me so much

are they special?

[digital mason]

I think they're hostile by default yeah

are they a problem?

[toxic nova]

nope

just jumpscares and confusion since I didn't look at them

[digital mason]

fair enough, fitting for the spooky spiderweb biome 🕸️

[bright edge]

btw was 0.8 0.7.19? Never saw a 0.8 anywhere

[urban portal]

It was remove

[bright edge]

that bad huh?

[bright edge]

I hate endermen in vanilla lol. Not because theyre dangerous at all but their damn footsteps and walking patterns are a real herobrine moment for me every single time lmfao

I hear one walking in some cave next to me, I know its just an enderman. It still creeps me the fuck out

every time

[digital mason]

lol, the kaolin klayze mod added this recently

[bright edge]

Hillager

its very green in the beneath for being in the core of the earth

hollow earth civilization shit

btw was it not possible to put 2 chests in a canoe? The book even mentions this as a possibility but I cant seem to put a chest in the pilot seat

[obsidian laurel]

it reminded me of Journey to the Center of the Earth

[bright edge]

how rare is kaolin supposed to be in the correct areas btw? Im in wide open unforested hills with the right temp and humidity, got max render distance and can see super far between these hills and I cant see anything red anywhere

[digital mason]

need specific biomes

it's also totally broken in 0.9.1 and doesn't spawn at all lol

[bright edge]

oh

well then thats a waste of exploration

the biomes were correct though

[digital mason]

/give yourself a bunch of kaolin as compensation then :p

[bright edge]

nah I guess ill just go to the beneath

I loot goblined my inventory full of seeds and saplings anyways

so I need to return home

how come it doesnt spawn at all in 0.9.1 btw?

[urban portal]

A small issue

Did you grab some latex wood while you were exploring south ?

[digital mason]

a certified "my bad" moment

[bright edge]

yeah, got kapok and rubber fig sapplings, and 1k latex for the gloves which I assume Ill need

idk how many logs I will need but presumably its more than the 5 stacks ive got on me, but ill just grow those back at base

I filled up on a lot of plants...

got some bamboo, banana and papyrus as well in the backpack

most of these will be a pain in the ass to ever grow up north but the trees I can at least grow as far as Ive heard, even if I wont be able to tap the latex

[urban portal]

You may be able to tap during summer at least ?

[bright edge]

yeah at least the rubber fig, or whichever it was that had the lowest min temp

I think rubber fig was 1 degree

[urban portal]

How far north are you ? 😅

Do you have snow even in summer

[bright edge]

not that far north

but pretty far north

cant recall what the max summer temp is

mightve been 20 at the hottest but perhaps as low as 15

[urban portal]

That’s pretty cool to play it rough

[bright edge]

its hot enough where I will be able to grow most stuff for a short period of the summer, although idk if its hot enough for long enough for the plants to actually mature, at least the ones that are most demanding

it gets cold enough though where even garlic might die at some point in the winter iirc, though theyre pretty reliable still for like 90% of the year

Ill be able to grow tomato though and make pizza so im happy

papyrus is probably useless though

and sadly sugarcane might be hard to grow as well but Ill try cuz other sugar sources are a pain in the ass

[tiny token]

Honey is pretty easy once you're set up. At least in my experience

[urban portal]

you can still make a greenhouse

[digital mason]

there's a bunch of new trees you could tap for resin and sugar

[topaz sigil]

kapok has the lowest

[bright edge]

yeah I know, Ill have to tap some birch and maple, its spring now so I hope Ill get back home in time to do so

do animals experience the effects of cold btw?

[urban portal]

Dont think so

Pretty sure they don’t

But it would look terrible if you let your poor sheep live in the snow

[toxic nova]

if framed glowing cubes don't give off light, are illuminant slabs a lie too?

[bright edge]

is that a moai...

[toxic nova]

with a hat!

[urban portal]

Woh it’s so cool on this small island

[urban portal]

You should colonized this island !

[bright edge]

Id be moving to a marginally warmer island with no space XD

[urban portal]

Uhuh go deeper

[bright edge]

this is the first structure ive found in my world though

[urban portal]

Building underground is rough in TFC though

[bright edge]

pretty cool for a first one, did not know this was one of the options

[bright edge]

ive been thinking of doing some projects like that though

one thought was a tunnel through a mountain, although I dont have any mountains too close to where I live

[urban portal]

You can use the new support beams to help with that

[bright edge]

oh, I see, concrete, rebar and steel supports exist

also some other metal supports and support wedges? Not sure how those differ

concrete and steel with 33x13x33 looks great though

[toxic nova]

moss blocks also exist!

pave your cavern ceiling with moss and defy gravity

[digital mason]

the ones from create deco are just decoration

[cloud shadow]

I tried adding supports that would support a whole chunk but it was unbearable laggy. I wonder how they do the code checks for them

[toxic nova]

tin alloy double ingots lose their heat after welding from ingots

[bright edge]

dont the steel and concrete supports do that?

2 chunks even since its 33x13x33

[cloud shadow]

I mean vertically too

[bright edge]

ah

[cloud shadow]

Like 358 blocks lol

[bright edge]

is that necessary though?

6 blocks up and down seems like plenty

[solemn wren]

this happens when i hold poor raw pyrite

[digital mason]

check without your shaders

[cloud shadow]

Yeah 6 blocks is fine. It was mostly just a "can I make a late game support that will just protect and entire region" type thing

[solemn wren]

yeah its a problem with bliss shaders works fine without

[cloud shadow]

Pyrite L yet again

[bright edge]

this might actually have been a cool island group to set up base on, plenty of space and tons of moai everywhere. Theres even a small waterway through the south-eastern most island that has like 5 moai lining it which looked awesome

this volcano lol

[toxic nova]

ahhh classic minecraft style terrain. i was missing that.

[bright edge]

I should excavate one of these moai at one point, I wanna see if they also have a body generated

[obsidian laurel]

bro actually found Rapa Nui

[bright edge]

decently cold climate

[urban portal]

Uhuh frosty

[dawn rapids]

bookmark recipe shown in gui is wrong

[urban portal]

GTceu bug

redo it while out of GT gui

[toxic nova]

So framed glowing cube seems to be the only glowstone craft that doesn't actually output light. Bug? Or intended since it's also the only one that doesn't need metal?

[dawn rapids]

since when it gives you double

[urban portal]

I think that was a recent change

[dawn rapids]

can blast furnace directly output to mold without a drum?

[cloud shadow]

im pretty sure no

[dawn rapids]

i thought it was a bug for alloy smelter giving double forging ingot, and crucible giving double tin iron alloy

[cloud shadow]

nah. i think nebby added those. Something about the conservation of mass or some nerd shit

🤓

[dawn rapids]

also is this new and is it worth it

[cloud shadow]

it is new, and imo its worth it

[dawn rapids]

for the airship thing, where can i find more info
not sure can it put animal or what

[cloud shadow]

atleast for processing iron blooms

[dawn rapids]

does it still need the bloom got heat up

[cloud shadow]

nope

[cloud shadow]

honestly dont know much about that mod either. I dont know if they updated the field guide but that may be something for us to do. You can always make a creative world and see which one works the best

[dawn rapids]

hate we cant cheese through it just with cast iron plate

[cloud shadow]

wdym?

[dawn rapids]

before you can slap the cast iron plate on the fire brick

instead of using wrought iron plate

[distant bronze]

can u just plant underground so it's hotter?

[toxic nova]

yes

[bright edge]

to make tree sap sugar do you have to do 1000mb of sap at a time or can you fill the vat up entirely?

[toxic nova]

waaaiiit a sec... was there a bug where overworld kaolin wasn't spawning in 0.9.1? T_T

[minor yoke]

yep

https://github.com/TerraFirmaGreg-Team/Modpack-Modern/commit/4d122c614b260edef6622f6fd4ae918bbceed21b#diff-69871d7cdf9c648952a2d3e2c5858a29102e5e3d91b02bfde2c63d50d19eb7c5 fix

[toxic nova]

gyah

[digital mason]

idk, ask the framed blocks devs

[digital mason]

I had a river cave go directly underneath a volcano full of lava once, don't ask how that works lol

[shut zodiac]

Hello. Who built a server for 0.9.1 Tell me how to get rid of rcon(start, shutdown) spam? Heavily clogs up the logs.

[shut zodiac]

More questions. //#endregion

//#region First EBF

Are these notes critical? Because Crowdin doesn't want to upload the file, it says they are broken

[digital mason]

where are they from?

it's safe to delete them when uploading

[shut zodiac]

Scouting here https://github.com/TerraFirmaGreg-Team/Tools-Modern/blob/dev/LanguageMerger/LanguageFiles/tfg/en_us/Quests/ore_proc.json

If I delete it, will it affect the structure of the text?

[digital mason]

no, it's just a comment

[buoyant canyon]

does anyone know how the mattock works? I'm right-clicking at loam grass and it says "this block cannot be mattocked", but JEI says otherwise.

[crystal parrot]

it should work?

check if it's set to a different mode on the tool, if it's set to making slabs or stairs it won't work

it has to be the full block mode

[buoyant canyon]

it's on full block mode

do I need to hold something offhand?

[digital mason]

it's been weird for some people - it works fine for me, but others were also having trouble, with it working in a new world fine but not their old one, or it being fixed after relogging

[buoyant canyon]

yeah, I already made a path for my horse crank a couple of days ago, but now the mattock isn't working. I'll try restarting TFG

ok, works after restart!

[digital mason]

good good

[fresh rune]

is the 0.9 already stable enough to be played on a server with friends?

[digital mason]

I'd wait until 0.9.2 which should be soon

0.9.1 has a few critical bugs

[fresh rune]

okok thank you

[torpid geyser]

the moai statues are wayyyy too common

[smoky valley]

wah are bedrock ore miners

i know these cant even be crafted but im asking anyway where are these bedrock veins

[digital mason]

not implemented

[smoky valley]

but will be?

[digital mason]

maybe

it's basically infinite ore, so it's pretty damn powerful

[smoky valley]

if itll be implemented then make it slow

[digital mason]

I'd like to put it in space so you have to solve the logistics of sending it home

[bright edge]

I havent explored enough to know whether they generate on every single volcanic island, although from what ive seen so far that might be likely. And if so that should be toned down probably, but if they do generate on an island it should generate a ton of them if we want to be real life accurate. With more on nearby islands if there are some close enough

@digital mason can volcanoes erupt?

[urban portal]

No but that would be insane 😂

[bright edge]

idk if im misremembering but didnt I read something about natural disasters existing in previous versions of TFG?

[urban portal]

Nah

[bright edge]

or did I perhaps read that they exist in some TFC modpacks but specifically not TFG?

[urban portal]

I think there was a discussion about having tornados

But honestly I’m not sure that would be a lot of fun

[bright edge]

volcanoes would be what Id want in that case

tornadoes seem unfun indeed

[urban portal]

Yeah that would be funny but I never encountered a mod able to do that

That would be quite laggy also to create lava source block and all

[bright edge]

earthquakes would be cool too but that seems even harder to implement than volcanoes lol

[digital mason]

there's a tfc addon that makes them erupt

[bright edge]

😮

[urban portal]

Earthquakes do exist

Really?

Damn that’s nice

[bright edge]

TFG hardmode with natural disasters

[digital mason]

you can add the natural disasters mods yourself if you want but I'm against them being included by default just because losing your entire base to something is very much not fun unless you're watching a youtuber suffer for it

[bright edge]

does an addon exist for flooding? River flooding and tsunamis

[digital mason]

not that I know of

[bright edge]

Yeah I see that

[bright edge]

would it be as simple to include as just adding that mod to the mods folder?

[urban portal]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/tfc-volcanoes

Oh that’s such a nice way to handle eruptions

Doesn’t create lava source

[digital mason]

I have heard that this mod has a bug where it keeps trying to place more and more mineral deposits around any lava sources, including the lava pools underground

no idea if it was fixed

[urban portal]

The idea is good though

Well if it doesn’t spam them forever until everything is an ore 😂

[obsidian laurel]

that would cause insane lag with so many water updates

[urban portal]

There was a mod in 1.7.10 that was « emulating » real water

And you were able to make a tsunami

Use damn and all

That was pretty cool

But I wonder if there isn’t a more recent one as I think I saw a video with something like that

[fresh lion]

tsunami and all i'm not sure but i know that terraria like water mod is on newer versions

https://modrinth.com/mod/flowing-fluids

no tsunami

[cloud shadow]

That's not really possible. It just uses biome tags to place them, so I can't really have it only place a bunch of them on one volcano but not another

[urban portal]

oh that's amazing

[urban portal]

you could make a tsunami if you remove water blocks in the ocean

then increase the sea level and bring back water on far away block

[fresh lion]

i mean

yeah that would work

i dunno how else you could make a tsunami in minecraft, not like there is tectonic plates

[cloud shadow]

Particle effects. They don't crash into your base, they crash your pc

[fresh lion]

i just assume a water physic "emulator" could simulate a big ass wave caused by a bomb or something

which would be insane

[solemn wren]

whats happening with damascus steel tools?

[drifting dawn]

The mod is very buggy and laggy. It can cause the world to continuously shake as an eruption goes off.

[digital mason]

they're staying, I'm just fixing the bug with the aoe effects

[solemn wren]

kk

[solemn wren]

wouldnt the farmland water use conflict with tfg's crop system (idk what mod does that)

[digital mason]

it's just tfc

[cloud shadow]

Just a thought. But what if we made damascus essentially "purple steel" and you could make it by forging blue and red steel together

[bright edge]

Thats real cool. The earthquake effect is cool too though it doesnt seem it causes actual damage on its own, at least not from the video embedded, still cool though

[solemn wren]

youd need to buff its stats then wouldnt you?

[cloud shadow]

Yeah, shouldn't be too hard though

[solemn wren]

im just meaning that wouldnt that make bastion loot like 4x better?

like bastions in vanilla have netherite which is defo not 4x better than diamond

[cloud shadow]

We can change bastion loot

But I am just spit balling

[solemn wren]

by reducing the chance of the new damascus items?

[dawn rapids]

like what

[cloud shadow]

We can just remove the Damascus items

[cloud shadow]

Kaolin can't spawn lol

[dawn rapids]

other than that

[cloud shadow]

I believe poor ores get voided when trying to hammer crush them or something

[digital mason]

idk, it's kinda exciting being treasure-exclusive loot that you can't reverse engineer

[urban portal]

Can’t we just increase the stats of Damascus so it’s a mix between Blue and Red steel but stays uncraftable

Agree it shouldn’t have a recipe or it kinda kills the point of exploring

[cloud shadow]

Yeah that's fine. Was just an idea 👍

[digital mason]

I wouldn't be against making a purple steel for the silly 😛

[cloud shadow]

👀

What next? Orange steel? Have liberals gone too far?

[dawn rapids]

does steam bloomery save any time? you do 22 iron in 15 minute

[digital mason]

yes, because it can do 8 recipes at the same time

so that's 8 iron in 2 minutes

(or 16 if you use coke!)

[dawn rapids]

can we use coke in normal bloomery?

[digital mason]

no

[solemn wren]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

[sullen jay]

I THOUGHT SOMETHING WASN"T RIGHT!!!! uhggggg I have traveled so far now though 😦

[solemn wren]

is current ver 0.9.1 or 0.9.2

[digital mason]

0.9.1

[toxic nova]

it's a little annoyingsome things take damage passively while being worn in clothes slots, so you want to wear them as armor, and some things don't, so you want to wear them as clothes so they don't take damage when you get hurt....

[solemn wren]

https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/macaws-for-terrafirmacraft anyone had any issues with this?, just trying to figure out whats causing stuttering

[dawn rapids]

how does it work

you throw it instead of putting in the anvil

interesting

[toxic nova]

yes, or funnel or belt or chute on top of it. create stuff.

[bright edge]

for the second part, I assume you mean armor? I realize I havent actually tested if you can put armor in clothes slots, but does it even provide armor if worn there?

[dawn rapids]

motherfucker

[ionic thicket]

holy shit

vacuums tube now actually need to be vacuum to be made

[toxic nova]

no for stuff like the mining helmet

if you use it on an armor slot, it takes damage. but if you put it in a clothes slot, it lasts forever

whereas clothes if you put them in the clothes slot, they'll just decay over time, but if you put them in the armor slot they don't take passive damage

[dawn rapids]

it consume the needle, is it intended?

[dawn rapids]

fun machine

[cloud shadow]

basic belt is removed next update

[dawn rapids]

no belt in future?

[left flax]

Different belts

[smoky valley]

i spawned in that climate in my world lul

[digital mason]

it's not removed, but the leather recipe is, so it can only use rubber

[solemn wren]

figured out this was causing a ton of instability and stuttering, would love to know what it does to cause it

[left flax]

Look at logs I guess?

[cloud shadow]

Was it just renamed to rubber belt? Because I didn't see any basic belt

[digital mason]

ye

[dawn rapids]

doess steel crushing wheel yield extra output?

[toxic nova]

iron sword is better than a steel sword?

oh it needs a curving machine

[lyric wraith]

I'm having an issue in 0.9.1 with milking ready cows with wooden bucket, only the iron one works has this been fixed already for 0.9.2? Also with putting salted meat on a string above a campfire to get it smoking

[toxic nova]

quest is lying, you need brined meat to smoke

[lyric wraith]

Oh ok

[dawn rapids]

how does this work

[digital mason]

read the ponder

anyway 0.9.2 is out

should fix a ton of bugs!

[digital mason]

removed in 0.9.2

[digital mason]

not sure about cow milk, I know we tested goat milk in a wooden bucket - do you have enough familiarity with the cow?

[fiery hawk]

heyaa, would you say 0.9.2 is a good time to start playing with this pack? 😄

[digital mason]

it should be!

keep in mind it is still an alpha so some things are unfinished

but it should be mostly good to go

[fiery hawk]

cool thanks! so updating shouldn't cause much issues in the future, especially if I don't get too far in?

[digital mason]

we always try to keep old worlds safe to upgrade!

the next major changes will happen around late steam to early LV (adding create 6) and then space (starts in mid-late HV)

[toxic nova]

Huzzah new update! Time to go over the field guide again

[frozen junco]

Hi! A question real quick, we were playing the modpack on our server with a friend, like half a year ago, and wanted to start from scratch. However when installing the new pack to the server, we just can't get the world gen to work properly, the world type keeps getting overwritten to normal minecraft. Anyone know how to solve this? The version of the pack was 0.9.1

[digital mason]

if you're using aternos, you need to create the world in singleplayer first, then upload it

[frozen junco]

😮 I have no idea how you guessed it, but we are indeed! Thanks!

[digital mason]

it's a fairly common question haha

I'd suggest updating to 0.9.2 though, it fixes a few critical bugs

[frozen junco]

Gonna try rn ^^

[shut zodiac]

Is it possible to fix this? To avoid mounds?

[bright edge]

yeah thats the cast iron sword as opposed to wrought iron

wrought iron is worse than both

[urban portal]

Im able to do it though

[solemn wren]

what does create 6 include (hoping its not create 🙏 ) (also add a :peepopray: ffs)

or prayge

[digital mason]

create 6 includes create 🤯

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGVkC8ZVHHw here's a good overview of it

but the tl;dr is it adds its own automated logistics system

and autocrafting

[solemn wren]

ok cool add prayge 🙏

[digital mason]

I'm not a mod lol

[solemn wren]

be one ??

[cloud shadow]

They bring up a good point Pyritie

[digital mason]

I mean, it's not like I can give myself mod powers lol

[cloud shadow]

Just be one

[solemn wren]

you tried harder ?

[digital mason]

I will do my best

[cloud shadow]

And then ban a bunch of people to show you mean business

[dawn rapids]

is sword the best weapon in general? or i need to have mace too

what is the best tree to grow after kapok nerf

[cloud shadow]

Some mobs take more damage from certain weapon types, and less from others. For example the skeleton takes very little damage from anything other than crushing type damage

[dawn rapids]

and any reason to make butcher knife? I heard looting does not work

You can no longer pick up regular ice with a saw to prevent moving around water sources, but you can craft packed ice instead if you need to cool off.
how do you pickup ice then

[urban portal]

you don't but you can pick up others kind of ice that don't create water source

[dawn rapids]

does pack ice or blue ice even spawn?

[digital mason]

you can craft it

[dawn rapids]

is burrito new?

[digital mason]

maybe it came from a firmalife update

[urban portal]

I think it was already there

[dawn rapids]

are these intended they have no nutriction

[urban portal]

nutrition depends of what you put in it?

[dawn rapids]

where do the update in the questbook and the guide? i dont see anything new for the early game

also what does this do? there is no ponder there

[digital mason]

it's just jei being jei

[digital mason]

gee I wonder what it does

[dawn rapids]

it is still not multiple of 144

[toxic nova]

It's a world setting, might have migrated with your save if you didn't make a new game. Many of the changes are more relevant to newer players, rather than returning ones. Although some major bugs were also fixed like kaolin and poor ores, among others

Well I haven't tried 0.9.2 yet either... Will download and check

[dawn rapids]

i dont think it is updated for the concrete road

[solemn wren]

what was wrong with poor ores btw?

[toxic nova]

I do plan to make another larger pass on the field guide after i mess around a bit in 9.2

[dawn rapids]

chance output gives nothing

[solemn wren]

its supposed to give more than 0.5 per?

[toxic nova]

it's supposed to not give nothing (in a millstone - the quern was 100% before too, don't know if that got changed)

[frank jetty]

I don't believe this is normal.. (on 0.9.2, fresh MP world)

(stick turns into GT Programmable Circuit)

[dawn rapids]

how do you get renewable clay? couldnt find a renewable source for clay dust

[urban portal]

it is, used to fix Greate recipe needing a circuit until we can use the version where it's fix

[urban portal]

you don't

use other methods than the usual ones

[frank jetty]

I see, thanks!

[digital mason]

lol maybe I should've done a different recipe for that

[dawn rapids]

i am thinking how do you get large amount of concrete with large amount of clay

[urban portal]

or add a tooltip on the programmed circuit

[dawn rapids]

animal cart is not working

[digital mason]

that's not how you use it

[dawn rapids]

i mean the animal is not sitting inside

wow you can carry animal like this in the airship

[crystal parrot]

they will only be sat inside if someone's actively moving it around

or at least piloting it

[dawn rapids]

look at this beast

[dawn rapids]

how does this work

[digital mason]

read the field guide

[dawn rapids]

place a bucket on the base course block
thats what i do

[digital mason]

do you have the right bucket

[dawn rapids]

yes i think

[digital mason]

no, look at the bucket

[dawn rapids]

it seems it only accept wooden bucket

what is this

how do you lit it up

[digital mason]

read the quest

[dawn rapids]

i thought it automatically place torches

what are these? is it fnaf in minecraft?

[digital mason]

yes that's exactly what it is

[cloud shadow]

There are two different types of liquid concrete. You want the one from rnr

[digital mason]

(should we unify those? or make them more distinct?)

[cloud shadow]

I made them separate on purpose. The rnr one is basically diluted concrete, so you don't need a full 1000mb of concrete for one slab

It's basically concrete with extra water

[digital mason]

ah, would it be a good idea to change the rnr one's name then? so it's a bit less confusing?

[cloud shadow]

I think it's already like "wet concrete" or something. Idk what else I could name it

[digital mason]

oh I didn't know

that sounds fine

[cloud shadow]

Maybe cement instead of concrete?

[digital mason]

🤔

not a bad idea

[cloud shadow]

Technically base gtceu is cement not concrete. But I ain't gonna snitch

[digital mason]

well it's easy to rename gtceu materials at least haha

[dawn rapids]

did they remove the brick recipe for other stone

[digital mason]

those gregtech bricks never had any

[toxic nova]

hmm the alloy smelter for fire clay feels a little backwards... resmelting my kaolin powder back into regular kaolin clay for a x5 multiplier

[digital mason]

lol, maybe I didn't quite think it through

feel free to change it

[toxic nova]

no wait sorry thats an x20 multiplier

Yeah it should be kaolinite powder not kaolin clay in that recipe. Then it's just a x4 boost for both graphite and kaolinite. I'll mark that down

oh no this is graphite dust not graphite powder. hmm

[frank jetty]

Now that the blowpipe doesn't protect against heat, there's no way that I'm seeing to handle hot vessels for metal pouring since tongs need the workbench, the cloth options need a loom which needs the saw, and the leather option needs barrels which also need the saw..

Maybe I'm missing something here ?

[digital mason]

wood tongs are a shapeless recipe, they can fit in your 2x2 grid

[frank jetty]

I see

Thanks

[dawn rapids]

is it normal redalloy gear doesnt have an anvil recipe

[urban portal]

I guess yeah

it's mostly for electronics

[toxic nova]

my pile of gold is dissapointingly dull. maybe i can fix that...

[digital mason]

that one's been bugging me for a while

I know ingots look much brighter in vanilla tfc https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1193919362378252389/1364088581630726234/2025-04-21_21.59.15.png?ex=680fa63d&is=680e54bd&hm=ed521d8551ecfa882bf53a40a72910d92a284ba3291cb286055e973b0225e8e2&

[urban portal]

the difference is huge lol

[digital mason]

I also know there's a mixin in tfg-core that lets you use gt ingots to make these piles

since we aren't using (most of) the tfc ingots

[bright edge]

why is the gold so brown lol

[urban portal]

ground is dirty so

[toxic nova]

was oat bread and wheat bread crappier than the other breads for a reason? (and maize)

[urban portal]

that's base tfc

I guess you can use a type for the animals and the others for you

[toxic nova]

but their sliced version is the same 🤔

[dawn rapids]

they removed compressor recipe

[urban portal]

really?

that's a firmacraft oversight

the full bread is different

[dawn rapids]

a full barrel emptying on partially filled create machine is voided
like i empty 10000mb water to 10000mb create saw, it gives an empty barrel but the saw filled with 16000mb

[urban portal]

hmm?

if it has already 6000mb you can add 10000mb ?

[dawn rapids]

i mean it wont leave 4000mb in the barrel

[urban portal]

oh

[digital mason]

it's just water

[dawn rapids]

just a minor bug

[urban portal]

it works fine with a drum

so I feel that's the most important

sounds fine to lose water

[dawn rapids]

we got the icon for the dropped item

[torpid geyser]

cast iron tongs don't have a recipe

intentional or bug?

[crystal parrot]

intentional

[torpid geyser]

some create mixer recipes should not require heating

like to make dough

[dawn rapids]

Whaat why

[toxic nova]

#💬│modern-chat-en message

[topaz sigil]

yeah but you cant make the tongs

recipe for the tong part should be removed too imo

[toxic nova]

So I got a Hunger II debuff for about 15 minutes after picking up colbaltite indicator. Seems to be from inhalation. Is it supposed to last that long? The overlay said 5 seconds but just kept refreshing. Wouldn't it be better to just say 15 minutes if it lasts 15 minutes?

[digital mason]

that's just how the hazard debuffs work, so you can't cheese it with milk drinking

[bright edge]

Yeah. Barley bread is 1.5 grain while others are 1.0. All sliced bread is 1.0. Barley is still the best though cuz you dont need water to grow it really

[urban portal]

yeah it's a firmlalife oversight I guess

[buoyant canyon]

goodbye my beloved blowpipe

most impactful change yet

[topaz sigil]

born to use blowpipe, forced to use tongs

or that glove thing

[distant bronze]

mittens

?

[topaz sigil]

latex gloves i think it was but idk if that's for handling hot metal stuff

[digital mason]

those are for hazardous stuff, not hot things

[topaz sigil]

oh nvm

[shut zodiac]

When I tried to mix tin and copper (1:9), I got only liquid tin. All the copper was destroyed.
The rock doesn't fall when you dig it up, it stays in the air and it's impossible to make an anvil. Are there any parameters on the server that need to be fixed or is there something wrong with me?

Version 0.9.2

[digital mason]

When I tried to mix tin and copper (1:9), I got only liquid tin. All the copper was destroyed.
What were you mixing it in, and which items?
The rock doesn't fall when you dig it up, it stays in the air and it's impossible to make an anvil. Are there any parameters on the server that need to be fixed or is there something wrong with me?
Yes, that's hardened stone, not raw stone

[shut zodiac]

Jug of 18 copper powder (144mB each) and 2 tin (144mB each). At the start, to the crucible.

[urban portal]

Well it’s not the good ratio or I’m being dumb?

Should 9:1 copper:tin for Bronze in TFC?

[digital mason]

is it copper powder or copper dust? they are different things

[torpid geyser]

you can't craft the tongs themselves, just the parts

[shut zodiac]

Yes, copper dust. Sorry for the inaccuracy. The ratio of 9 copper:1 tin, I use from the crucible + in the jug it was written that I should get 2880mB of bronze

[digital mason]

🤔 very weird, that should be correct

it worked in 0.9.1

[distant bronze]

isnt it 8:1?

[jade zephyr]

pretty sure both ratio works

[toxic nova]

were you trying to extract hardened stone? hardened stone will float, try on raw stone?

[shut zodiac]

If I can send a screenshot of the stones for the stone anvil today, I'll send it to you. It's so hard to explain... Sorry.

[shut zodiac]

It contains 85-90 per cent copper, 15-10 per cent tin

[toxic nova]

That should work too. The copper just vanished and didn't end up in the crucible? Are you sure the copper wasn't still in the vessel? It takes a lot longer for copper to melt than tin

If you're using a crucible, it's much faster to put the dusts and ores directly into the crucible compared to keeping it in a vessel in the crucible

[shut zodiac]

I was melting in it (sorry for the bad screen). As soon as the tin was melted, the copper disappeared. I haven't gotten to the crucible yet.

I'll try it on clients and on the server as soon as I get a chance

[toxic nova]

yes, it will say "molten tin" and "waning - vessel still contains unmelted material" - you need to keep heating it and wait for the copper to melt too, since they have different melting points

[shut zodiac]

I'll give it a try. Maybe I wasn't paying attention.

[toxic nova]

it looks like the copper dissapeared because it can't show liquids and solids at the same time

[torpid geyser]

here's a texture for copper plates that is consistent with the other gregtech ones

[toxic nova]

hmm my wrench seems to have evaporated somewhere. i wonder if one of the recipes ate it...

[topaz sigil]

i ate it

https://tenor.com/view/crunch-cat-luna-eat-gif-3997701764820700221

[digital mason]

https://tenor.com/view/yum-tools-eat-taste-gif-17547468

[dawn rapids]

is this intended?

also if it fall under hydration level requirement, does the higher hydration useful for anything?

[dawn rapids]

did they nerf waterwheel?

isnt it 512 su

[digital mason]

yes, to keep it in line with all of the other greate machines using smaller numbers too

[dawn rapids]

so how much do passive lava steam engine makes

[digital mason]

not enough

just make the steam engine, you can feed the blaze burners buckets of creosote iirc

[dawn rapids]

which is how much su

[digital mason]

512 per steam engine

I think? maybe 256, icr

plenty, either way

[dawn rapids]

what if i put creosote to burn

[digital mason]

that'll work like any other combustible item yes

[dawn rapids]

i mean su

or wait
lava under fluid tank wont generate su?

with 4 blaze burner

it is so shit

[digital mason]

have a setup pumping water into it constantly if you're gonna be testing it

also, make it more than 1 layer tall lol

you can make it 3x3x4

[dawn rapids]

i need number

to calculate how do i run my elevator

[digital mason]

elevator pulley uses very little SU

[dawn rapids]

it need 1024 su

[digital mason]

for 256 rpm?

[dawn rapids]

32rpm is slower than i climb ladder

no way i am going to power just an elevator with a fully running automated charcoal

[digital mason]

I will adjust the elevator

[dawn rapids]

how do i adjust that

couldnt find it in config

[digital mason]

defaultconfigs/create-server.toml

change the elevator_pulley

[dawn rapids]

thanks, in the config it said 0.5
isnt it should be 4 or 0.25?

[digital mason]

I put it down to 0.125

see if that's enough

[dawn rapids]

let me see

also any reason there is no find-it key?

[digital mason]

what's that?

[dawn rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUcmQwkcJ5Q
you press the key hovering the item you want to find and it create smoke effect for nearby chest if they contain one

[dawn rapids]

now i can power it with 128 rpm with one large water wheel

the speed looks much more acceptable like the elevator in the server

[digital mason]

that looks like it's added by extra utilities, which is a pretty big mod to add just for that

[toxic nova]

sticky resin to rubber recipe is gone?

[dawn rapids]

is there any early builder thing available in lv?

it is painful to place block by block

[cloud shadow]

construction wands

[dawn rapids]

since when?

[cloud shadow]

since 0.9

[dawn rapids]

does it has durability?

[cloud shadow]

yes

[dawn rapids]

also what is the cheapest anti gravity building block

if i dont place raw stone in the sky, harden rock wont collapse right if i use it for skybase?

also does mob spawn on harden stone?

[cloud shadow]

hardened rock isnt obtainable in survival if i recall. and mobs do spawn on it

[toxic nova]

stone bricks or planks probably

stone bricks especially if you have a rock crusher

[dawn rapids]

still you need to get mortar

[toxic nova]

rocks can be forge hammered into sand

otherwise treefarm -> planks

[sullen jay]

so I have create my first black steel ingot, but the amount I need is a lot, is there something I am missing to make this easier, it is a lot of anviling

[toxic nova]

are you running a helve hammer?