🚀EN - 1.20 Modpack Contribution Megathread | TerraFirmaGreg | Page 19

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 1:46 AM

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It doesn't need any brackets at all

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:47 AM

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that way?

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 1:48 AM

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Yup, try that

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:48 AM

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I checked the kubejs documentation but the more I use it the more I feel like it's outdated

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 1:48 AM

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It is very outdated

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:48 AM

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damn

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reloading let's see

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 1:48 AM

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They made a new wiki, but it has like 2 entries lol

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:49 AM

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useful lol

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still the same error

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 1:49 AM

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Hmm

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:49 AM

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the recipe works though

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 1:49 AM

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Weird... Maybe are you missing one of the circuit tiers? So the recipe is expecting ZPM but there isn't one for example

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:50 AM

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no it's all the base gt one

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oh

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no

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fuck me

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you right

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 1:50 AM

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Lol

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:51 AM

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I had two more tiers lol

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good it worked

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now I need to add the universal circuit to the gtceu ones

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and usually this is where it get fucked up

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const tiers = ["ulv", "lv", "mv", "hv", "ev", "iv", "luv", "zpm", "uv", "uhv"];

ServerEvents.tags("item", event => {
    tiers.forEach(tier => {
        event.add(`kubejs:craft_circuits/${tier}`, `#gtceu:circuits/${tier}`);
    });
});
ServerEvents.recipes(event => {
    tiers.forEach(tier => {
        event.shapeless(`1x tfg:${tier}_universal_circuit`,
            
              `#kubejs:craft_circuits/${tier}`
            
          ).id(`universal_circuit_${tier}`);
    });
});
ServerEvents.tags("item", event => {
    tiers.forEach(tier => {
        event.add(`gtceu:circuits/${tier}`, `tfg:${tier}_universal_circuit`);
    });

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So Pyritie told me to add the tag after making the recipe

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so I would do it that way

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 1:53 AM

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Uhh

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That seems wrong

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The tag should be loaded first

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Otherwise the recipe wouldn't know what item the tag has

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:54 AM

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that's the idea to make the recipe before adding the universal circuits into the tag

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so they don't appear in the recipe

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 1:54 AM

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Ohhh

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I see

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:54 AM

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it fucked AE2

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 1:55 AM

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You can also use .subtract() to ignore items from a tag

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:55 AM

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oh

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 1:55 AM

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But your way is easier

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:55 AM

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It's less elegant I guess

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because I had to make a different file in kube.js to have all of them together

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let's try if it works at least

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 1:57 AM

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Yeah. For future uses you can do something like ```js
Ingredient.of("tag").subtract(["item1", "item2"...])

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:58 AM

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After .shapeless(Ingrendient.of() ?

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 1:59 AM

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If you want it as the result it would be Item.of I believe

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If it's the input usually Ingredient.of

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Some recipes are weird about which one they want

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:59 AM

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oh I see

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and the tag doesn't work

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i'm confuse

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it was working earlier

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const tiers = ["ulv", "lv", "mv", "hv", "ev", "iv", "luv", "zpm", "uv", "uhv"];

ServerEvents.tags("item", event => {
    tiers.forEach(tier => {
        event.add(`kubejs:craft_circuits/${tier}`, `#gtceu:circuits/${tier}`);
    });
});
ServerEvents.recipes(event => {
    tiers.forEach(tier => {
        event.shapeless(`1x tfg:${tier}_universal_circuit`,
            
              `#kubejs:craft_circuits/${tier}`
            
          ).id(`universal_circuit_${tier}`);
    });
});
ServerEvents.tags("item", event => {
    tiers.forEach(tier => {
        event.add(`gtceu:circuits/${tier}`, `tfg:${tier}_universal_circuit`);
    });
});

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I could try with your method

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const tiers = ["ulv", "lv", "mv", "hv", "ev", "iv", "luv", "zpm", "uv", "uhv"];

ServerEvents.tags("item", event => {
    tiers.forEach(tier => {
        event.add(`gtceu:circuits/${tier}`, `tfg:${tier}_universal_circuit`);
    });
});
ServerEvents.recipes(event => {
    tiers.forEach(tier => {
        event.shapeless(`1x tfg:${tier}_universal_circuit`,  [Ingredient.of([`gtceu:circuits_${tier}`]).subtract([`tfg:${tier}universal_circuit`])]
            ).id(`universal_circuit_${tier}`);
    });
});

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that would be like that?

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oh wait

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 2:05 AM

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The ingredients should still be in an array

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 2:06 AM

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with []?

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 2:07 AM

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Yeah put that around the ingredient.of().subtract()

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Yeah that looks like it should work

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 2:07 AM

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okay thanks let's try that way then

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 2:07 AM

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Reading it on mobile confuses me lol

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 2:07 AM

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ouch that has to be rough

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I removed the const lol let's try again

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it works for the tag but the recipe didn't work

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but no error

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I'm adding bracket for the input

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nope

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damn

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oh no

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I may be dumb

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I used .substract with the wrong item

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ServerEvents.recipes(event => {
        event.shapeless(`1x tfg:lv_universal_circuit`,  [Ingredient.of([`gtceu:circuits_lv`]).subtract([`tfg:lv_universal_circuit`])]
            ).id(`universal_circuit_test`);
});

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even this one doesn't work

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oupsi I broke everything lol

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holy cow

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It may work I was mispelling stuff as expected

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 2:31 AM

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Code brain vs English brain

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I'm heading home now so I can help more when I'm there

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 2:32 AM

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It worked!!!!

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Thanks a lot

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this is perfect

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 2:36 AM

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Shweet

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 2:37 AM

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the tag are still fucked in a way but well

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const tiers = ["ulv", "lv", "mv", "hv", "ev", "iv", "luv", "zpm", "uv", "uhv"];

ServerEvents.tags("item", event => {
    tiers.forEach(tier => {
        event.add(`gtceu:circuits/${tier}`, `tfg:${tier}_universal_circuit`);
    });
});

ServerEvents.recipes(event => {
    tiers.forEach(tier => {
    event.shapeless(Item.of(`tfg:${tier}_universal_circuit`, 1),  [Ingredient.of([`#gtceu:circuits/${tier}`]).subtract([`tfg:${tier}_universal_circuit`])]
        ).id(`universal_circuits_${tier}`);
});
});

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no where appears #kubejs:craft_circuit anymroe

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but it still exists ingame as a name

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 3:07 AM

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does does it still appear if you restart your client?

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:08 AM

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I gonna test that

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fixes it

cosmic veldt Apr 25, 2025, 10:46 AM

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I was thinking about how rose quartz in base create is nether quartz + redstone, I think if we add an alternative recipe in an MV autoclave for rose quartz (nether quartz + molten redstone) that should do for the alternative rose quartz method?

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:02 AM

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yeah, something like that

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I was gonna have the rose quartz dust centrifuge/electrolyze into quartz dust + redstone

cosmic veldt Apr 25, 2025, 11:27 AM

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greate seems to have defined it as such too

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do you know where I could define the materials system to auto generate a rose quartz lens?

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:56 AM

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I'll have to check when I get home but you could try looking through the other GT flags, see if there's one for a lens

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:57 AM

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cosmic veldt greate seems to have defined it as such too

it'd be nice to remove that "disable decomposition" flag

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(it suppresses GT from creating a centrifuge/electro recipe)

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btw, I wonder if we should just remove the butchery knife - tfc things don't even support it (they already drop WAY more than vanilla) and it's weird to have an enchanted thing when nothing else is

cosmic veldt Apr 25, 2025, 12:19 PM

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if it doesn't work with tfc animals then i guess it would just mislead people

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ideally it should work

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 12:29 PM

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you'd basically have to go through every animal and add the extra loot table stuff to make it work

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but also I feel like it's designed for vanilla where cows give 1-2 steak instead of 20 like here, lol

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since you can't put looting on anything else (because we don't have enchants) it makes this scenario where butchery knife is the most optimal tool even though it's very slow to fight with

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when imo, if something isn't dropping enough stuff, it should just drop more for all cases instead

cosmic veldt Apr 25, 2025, 12:54 PM

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yeah with tfc's full familiarity animals giving you so much meat there's not really much use for even MORE drops on top of that from looting

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 12:57 PM

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🤔 I'll see how easy it is to remove

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:00 PM

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It's a really cool item though

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but I understand the idea behind

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:00 PM

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brave cairn when imo, if something isn't dropping enough stuff, it should just drop more for...

I disagree with this one

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it just pushes you to have all the tools and the infrastructure

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what would have been cool is to be able to get Farmer's Delight and especially butchery in it

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but I don't even want to know how integrating is working and we have already enough mods anyway

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 1:04 PM

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apparently butchery comes with built in tfc support

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but I don't really see the point of farmer's delight, it's just more food to try and balance

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:05 PM

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oh really? i would love it but i'm not sure that would get the popular vote seeing as already people don't like to have to eat in Tfc...

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:05 PM

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brave cairn but I don't really see the point of farmer's delight, it's just more food to try...

yeah I would have like it personnaly but I don't think it has a point in Tfg today

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 1:07 PM

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gloomy elm oh really? i would love it but i'm not sure that would get the popular vote seei...

I don't know if it changes the base tfc behaviour, just lets you get more out of animals

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and tbh I'd prefer a "butcher knife tool that gets you more food" over a "butcher knife tool that makes everything drop more stuff" imo

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:09 PM

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brave cairn and tbh I'd prefer a "butcher knife tool that gets you more food" over a "butche...

yeah I get the issue with that one :p

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 1:14 PM

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but yeah lemme see how easy it is to just remove the GT tools then we can figure out where to go

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:19 PM

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yeah I guess optimizing food drop isn't the priority anyway

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since our recipes are still broken with GT and Create

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well I will be able to push Universal Circuits fully implemented!

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we need to ask Xikaro to add some credits

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Idk how that works

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brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 1:21 PM

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where do we even add credits?

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like, on the modpack description page? in the field guide somewhere?

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 1:23 PM

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I have no clue

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Usually I see it on the github

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let me check how someone that asked the same permission did

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https://github.com/RianGomita/Sky-Of-Grind

GitHub

GitHub - RianGomita/Sky-Of-Grind: Modernized Skyblock GregTech Modpack

Modernized Skyblock GregTech Modpack. Contribute to RianGomita/Sky-Of-Grind development by creating an account on GitHub.

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yeah they do it on the github

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 1:29 PM

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okay

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 2:01 PM

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Pyritie do you have to declare my const in both the tag.file and the recipes files?

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it's not share between file I guess?

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 2:04 PM

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lol I just wrote a comment on github about this

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 2:04 PM

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ahaha

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thanks

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you can read my mind

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 2:33 PM

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    UNIVERSAL_CIRCUIT_TIERS.forEach(tier => {
        event.shapeless(Item.of(`tfg:${tier}_universal_circuit`, 1),  [Ingredient.of([`#gtceu:circuits/${tier}`]).subtract([`tfg:${tier}_universal_circuit`])]
            ).id(`universal_circuits_${tier}`);
    });
}

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Is this what's expected?

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 2:36 PM

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you'll still need the globals. in front of the const array for kubje to keep it around, but otherwise yes

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 2:43 PM

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is it globals or global?

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 2:46 PM

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uhh... look at the constants.js file and copy what they do lol

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 2:46 PM

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uhuh I think it was global

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let's see if everything works fine

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uuh my tag function doesn't work

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what did i do again

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 2:50 PM

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you put it in the right items tag function right? and not like, the block tag or something

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 2:52 PM

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Oh you can bet that's the mistake I did

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even better

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I was in the tag list for ore veins

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lol

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 2:57 PM

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lmao that'd do it

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 2:58 PM

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fixed thanks

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let me push it now then

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:02 PM

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cheers

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who do we credit for the art? "WithersChat"?

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:03 PM

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yeah

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from the Moni Team I guess

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Idk how how that works but I guess we are better safe than sorry in crediting both

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:08 PM

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I stuck it on the bottom of the readme, I think that's correct?

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:09 PM

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I think so!

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You ask me but really I don't know ahah

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well they will tell us if we miss something

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Pamsmith is on this discord

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:10 PM

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tbh I kinda want to rewrite the prose on the readme anyway, it's too grandiose and doesn't accurately describe the pack

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:11 PM

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true

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especially with how Create integration is now

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:11 PM

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it should say more about like, what is the gameplay like, who does this modpack appeal to, what you can expect out of it

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:12 PM

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Realistic minecraft pack appealing to new players who wants to discover Tfc and Gt and also Veteran who wants an original experience

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:13 PM

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still too vague!

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:13 PM

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no definitely

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We need to expand but I think that's the main idea

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TFG now has very orignal mechanics

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Is an entry pack to TFC and Gregtech while still keeping the philosophy for both mods

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Crazy integration of Create

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the pack is rough it's a survival pack still

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and soon space exploration to keep the philosophy of explory from Tfc

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:15 PM

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I'm wanting specifics like "it's survival but not hardcore, it has a lot of mods but the progression is all curated, it has a lot of quests but they're all for guidance and not stupid lootboxes, it's an automation modpack but it's not skyblock so you still have to interact with the world, it's realistic and grounded but not in a tedious way"

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:16 PM

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Would be easier to understand with small paragraphs for each parts

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:16 PM

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"it's focused around tfc and gt but expands beyond just those mods while keeping their themes" idk

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:23 PM

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TerrafirmaGreg blends the survival depth of Terrafirmacraft with the industrial complexity of GregTech: Modern. It preserves TFC’s challenging survival mechanics while introducing the expansive infrastructure and automation of GregTech—without being overly punishing. Whether you're a newcomer or a seasoned player looking for a fresh experience, TerrafirmaGreg offers something for everyone.

🧭 Tons of Quests
Every aspect of the modpack is supported by a detailed questline to guide your journey. And when quests aren't enough, we've included a custom in-game guidebook—straight from TFC—to make sure you always have the knowledge you need.

🌾 Survival at Its Core
At heart, this is still a TFC modpack. You’ll need to manage thirst, hunger, and the changing seasons. Craft tools, prepare for winter, and survive the world using the rich mechanics TFC is known for.

⚙️ Create-Driven Early Game
Early game has a twist: with the Greate mod, you can integrate Create into your tech tree. Many early GregTech machines have Create-based alternatives, letting you choose your path—classic GregTech, creative automation, or a blend of both.

🚀 GregTech Meets Space
We’ve enhanced the standard GregTech progression with custom space integration. Explore orbits, extract exotic ores from the rings of Saturn, and build intricate processing chains to optimize yields. But beware—managing interplanetary logistics won’t be easy.

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I killed a penguin for that lol

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:24 PM

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oh I was gonna do it lol

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:24 PM

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ahah

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I should make all my quests using it but I feel bad for the planet lol

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:26 PM

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that explains why it reads so different from your writing style lol

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:26 PM

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yeah you can tell that some of them this isn't me

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I did most of my university studies in English, but it's been a long time since I've written much

cosmic veldt Apr 25, 2025, 3:29 PM

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well i do write a shitton these days because of my thesis so i could have a go at helping write it up

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:29 PM

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if you'd like

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personally I don't really want it to sound braggy but that's just me

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:30 PM

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What do you mean braggy?

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:30 PM

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I'm thinking along the lines of, like, providing all the information that a random person browsing for modpacks would need to decide if tfg will be fun for them

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:30 PM

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Like Community text

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Ah

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I thought you were speaking about the quests 😂

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:31 PM

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instead of being like "wow look at alllll this content! 1000s of quests and custom recipes!!! innovative modpack!! 🤩 🤩 "

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:31 PM

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gloomy elm TerrafirmaGreg blends the survival depth of Terrafirmacraft with the industrial ...

You think it’s a bit too braggy?

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I think it’s okay it explores all the aspects of the pack

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:32 PM

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gonna be honest I just mentally discard everything that AI shits out lol

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:32 PM

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Maybe a bit too engaging

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Ahah

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I agree i try to limit how often I use it

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that was my initial text

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 3:33 PM

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tfg calling itself "innovative" or "survival as it should've been" has always rubbed me the wrong way lol

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:33 PM

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"TerrafirmaGreg is the perfect mix between TerrafirmaCraft and Gregtech Modern, while it keeps the survability aspect of Tfc and the massive infrastructure of Gregtech both mods aren't too rough on their edge and it will be appealing to both new players and veteran who wants a change of space.

Tons of quests: For every aspects of the modpack you will have a quest guiding you and where there is not enough information, we supply a customise guide book directly coming from TFC to get all the knowledge you miss
Survivability at its finest: This is still a TFC modpack at its core, you will need to drink, eat, survive the rough seasons by using lots of different tools available to you.
Create is here: With the use of Greate the early game will smell Create if you feel so. Many machines from early game Gregtech will see an alternative in Create. But it's your choice how you want to go about it.
Gregtech and space: While we mainly use the vanilla version of Gregtech, custom contenue come from the integration of Space within our progression system. Be prepared to look for ores on orbits, make weird processing line to get more wield from your ores on Saturne's orbit and manage the difficult transportations of everything.

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 3:33 PM

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brave cairn tfg calling itself "innovative" or "survival as it should've been" has always ru...

I think what they mean by survival as it should've been was because they wanted the pack hard

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But I think the way we gate AE2 and the ressources generations we gonna have is a better way to make the pack hard

rustic thunder Apr 25, 2025, 4:07 PM

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brave cairn tfg calling itself "innovative" or "survival as it should've been" has always ru...

true its missing infernal mobs at night

topaz jacinth Apr 25, 2025, 5:14 PM

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will create 6.0 be in the update?

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 5:14 PM

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Not the next one but hopefully the one coming after

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 5:18 PM

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topaz jacinth will create 6.0 be in the update?

we're waiting on two create addons to update to create 6, then we'll be able to

topaz jacinth Apr 25, 2025, 5:30 PM

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Nice!

graceful orbit Apr 25, 2025, 5:33 PM

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exotic wraith Apr 25, 2025, 8:45 PM

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Trip's over, going back home now

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What did I miss?

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 8:48 PM

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We added lucky blocks

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And like 8 horror mods that don't work together

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 8:49 PM

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open the chance cube next to your base, it'll be funny, trust

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 8:52 PM

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Open the funny cube! You get a %1 chance for something mildly annoying and %99 chance you will ruin everything you've ever achieved

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 8:52 PM

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ahahah

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 8:52 PM

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Btw how was Texas?

cosmic veldt Apr 25, 2025, 9:00 PM

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we added mobs that spawn and jump you if you mine or chop trees just like Acclaimed Modpack RLCraft™️

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 9:01 PM

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Basically it's a shit show

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but everyone love it so

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 9:04 PM

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Yeah its weird. We purposely made it awful but it's trending rn

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 10:06 PM

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Nebby was so disappointed with us they never came back 😭

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 10:06 PM

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Lmao

cosmic veldt Apr 25, 2025, 10:42 PM

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😭 😭 😭

blazing swan Apr 25, 2025, 10:48 PM

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what needs to be done to do a minor update? there has been a lot of fixes commited since 9.1, lots of these fixes would be great to have

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 10:52 PM

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I usually download the github from dev branch then run pakku fetch

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 10:53 PM

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blazing swan what needs to be done to do a minor update? there has been a lot of fixes commit...

I'd like to get the field guide updated 🤔 but I guess we could just do one tonight if everyone's ready

blazing swan Apr 25, 2025, 10:54 PM

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nah its ok, you answered the question, you want to field guide done before we do a minor update

blazing swan Apr 25, 2025, 10:55 PM

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gloomy elm I usually download the github from dev branch then run pakku fetch

I have a friend that sometimes plays, and its to difficult to try to make sure we are one the same versioning if we use the dev branch

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 10:56 PM

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I would also like to finish MV quests if I have the time

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I could finish tonight or tomorrow night

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 10:56 PM

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it doesn't have to be finished to do another alpha build, but I def want it (and the quest proofreading) done before we go to "stable"

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 10:58 PM

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I'm copying the text into lang file right now

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it's a slow process

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 10:58 PM

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gloomy elm I would also like to finish MV quests if I have the time

fair enough

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tomorrow I'll take a look at updating mods and all that

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I hope the create addons update soon, I would really like some of those greate bugfixes...

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like right now our mech mixer recipes need you to throw in a programmed circuit item for them to even work, lol

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I also wanna try out this https://modrinth.com/mod/configurable-death

Modrinth

Configurable Death - Minecraft Mod

Spiritual successor of Corpse Complex for modern MC. Configure aspects of the player death, such as parts of the inventory to keep/drop, hunger, durability, experience, and more.

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it lets you keep the player's hunger/saturation when they die, lol

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@blazing swan otherwise, is there anything else you'd like to work on next?

blazing swan Apr 25, 2025, 11:04 PM

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I did see something that might have been fixed, recipes for high tier mill stones?

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:05 PM

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I hid them on purpose because the crushing wheels are just so much better

exotic wraith Apr 25, 2025, 11:05 PM

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coral vault Btw how was Texas?

Twas great!

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:05 PM

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do you really think they're needed?

blazing swan Apr 25, 2025, 11:06 PM

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ah, ok the recipes show tooltip that say higher tiers better chances

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that is why I thought it was bug

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:06 PM

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it's just directly using the gregtech macerator recipes

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newer versions of greate apparently let me actually separate them out a bit, but this is the best we can do for now

blazing swan Apr 25, 2025, 11:07 PM

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they also aren't hidden in the left bar showing the alternative machines that the recipes can be used in

blazing swan Apr 25, 2025, 11:09 PM

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brave cairn newer versions of greate apparently let me actually separate them out a bit, but...

we can leave it for now until we can update greate

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:10 PM

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blazing swan they also aren't hidden in the left bar showing the alternative machines that th...

idk how to fix that 😔

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 11:20 PM

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brave cairn like right now our mech mixer recipes need you to throw in a programmed circuit ...

oh the include UI doesn't work?

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 11:21 PM

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brave cairn do you really think they're needed?

I think it's a good idea to remove them for higher tiers

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switching to Crushing Wheels seems like a natural path

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:31 PM

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gloomy elm oh the include UI doesn't work?

the what?

cosmic veldt Apr 25, 2025, 11:32 PM

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unfortunately i have to report that my crash on worldgen bug is still there :(

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:32 PM

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lemme make a new world and test

cosmic veldt Apr 25, 2025, 11:33 PM

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I think it's something to do with some field (OreType.isDoubleDrops()) that's nonexistent in some of our ores or something like that but it's hard to check

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it almost certainly was crashing when minecraft ate too much ram yesterday with the same message, but that was when loading into an already generated world

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:33 PM

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and you have my new tfg-core.jar right?

cosmic veldt Apr 25, 2025, 11:34 PM

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if it's the newest commit on the git repo then yes I checked out my create 6 branch from that one

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:34 PM

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works fine for me 😔

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(I still have no idea where that combatting lag quest is coming from)

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oh that's cool, if you sneak-rclick something with the tfc book it'll jump right to that page

gloomy elm Apr 25, 2025, 11:37 PM

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brave cairn the what?

User interface the small number really cool on the machine to chose the circuit

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 11:39 PM

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brave cairn works fine for me 😔

Btw the tag error message seems to be about gtceu:obsidian_dust not loading as c:hidden_from_recipe_viewers but as far as I can tell there isn't a script that hides it in kubejs

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:40 PM

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fucking greate again

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thanks

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 11:40 PM

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It's not greate, it's bad

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:41 PM

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I have a very love-hate relationship with greate sometimes 😭

coral vault Apr 25, 2025, 11:41 PM

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Lol true

brave cairn Apr 25, 2025, 11:41 PM

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gloomy elm User interface the small number really cool on the machine to chose the circuit

that bit works, it's a bug in greate that it requires the actual programmed circuit item as well

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the dev fixed it yesterday

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 12:16 AM

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ok I've fixed my worldgen error but there's some weird things I had to do

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first of all I had to disable these in the tag_prefixes.js, gregtech seems to really really hate when you remove these for whatever reason

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second of all ftb filters of all things was complaining and I couldn't load into anything so I disabled that for the time being

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otherwise everything works!

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 12:19 AM

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cosmic veldt first of all I had to disable these in the tag_prefixes.js, gregtech seems to re...

that's really odd that those would be the issue

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that's gregtech generating all the ores for vanilla blocks (except we have to regenerate deepslate and blackstone because there was a bug with them)

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but... if it works, I guess?

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 12:19 AM

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it's probably not all of them but at least one of them was causing the aforementioned bug

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it was a lookup error so.. I'm guessing for whatever reason GTCEu really needs to look those up at some point during worldgen

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java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "com.gregtechceu.gtceu.api.data.tag.TagPrefix$OreType.isDoubleDrops()" because the return value of "java.util.Map.get(Object)" is null was the error for posterity

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when the ore didn't exist it decided to throw a tantrum, i guess

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 12:22 AM

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interesting, I wonder why only you are getting the error considering we're on the same gt version

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unless... greate did this

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 12:23 AM

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i had greate disabled while i tested this so it's not greate either

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at least not for this, lol

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figured out how to do this though

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 12:24 AM

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very weird!

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 12:24 AM

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cosmic veldt figured out how to do this though

oooh nice, was it just a lens flag?

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 12:24 AM

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yeah, although the base material had specifically decomposition_disabled set so I couldn't change that in kubejs

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think we might just have to add an autoclave recipe to make it + electrolyzer recipe to un-make it ourselves

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 12:25 AM

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that works

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 12:27 AM

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brave cairn interesting, I wonder why only you are getting the error considering we're on th...

this is still really baffling to me because with the same GT version and same scripts this shouldn't be happening

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unless create 6 touches worldgen somehow? but I've never seen anything that suggests this is the case

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 12:30 AM

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it shouldn't, there's a config option to turn off its worldgen changes which we use... unless the config file changed?

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man I want to stick a breakpoint here and see what it's complaining about 😭

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 12:34 AM

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or a debug statement... or anything

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 12:34 AM

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I mean... I think system.out.println redirects to the minecraft log

rocky leaf Apr 26, 2025, 3:22 AM

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brave cairn I also wanna try out this https://modrinth.com/mod/configurable-death

https://imgur.com/a/MBXrwzF

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coral vault Apr 26, 2025, 3:32 AM

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Softlocking is a great mechanic. Excellent idea

zealous atlas Apr 26, 2025, 3:39 AM

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if something is already ready for the next release, let's release it, so as not to make a too big release again

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 3:40 AM

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rocky leaf https://imgur.com/a/MBXrwzF

Oh that’s good

coral vault Apr 26, 2025, 3:50 AM

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zealous atlas if something is already ready for the next release, let's release it, so as not ...

i have a pr to merge, waiting on a review but I think nebby might still be away if you wanted to look at it

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 10:04 AM

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rocky leaf https://imgur.com/a/MBXrwzF

lol, maybe a little too evil

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I like the idea though, did you do this just now?

rocky leaf Apr 26, 2025, 10:08 AM

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yep, in dev

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 10:18 AM

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I still think we can maybe start with just keeping the same hunger you had before, floored to like 5-10% or so, and maybe one or two debuffs

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the goal is to just stop people from killing themselves instead of eating

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not make death really punishing, if that makes sense?

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 10:22 AM

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zealous atlas if something is already ready for the next release, let's release it, so as not ...

if nebby isn't around (on holiday) do I merge with just one reviewer, or what?
also I sent you a review for a new TFG-Core

rocky leaf Apr 26, 2025, 10:23 AM

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brave cairn I still think we can maybe start with just keeping the same hunger you had befor...

all penalties are configured in the config

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 10:28 AM

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ah so this is with that mod, neat

rocky leaf Apr 26, 2025, 11:41 AM

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test this build

vivid steeple Apr 26, 2025, 11:42 AM

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rocky leaf https://imgur.com/a/MBXrwzF

i sure hope this wont be added to the game

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like seriously what the fuck is the point of a 5minute delay before getting your shit back

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it discourages death but like basically forces you to afk for 5minutes

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 11:46 AM

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yeah I don't like that part

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 11:46 AM

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rocky leaf test this build

what does this do? custom forks can have licensing issues with curseforge

rocky leaf Apr 26, 2025, 11:54 AM

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Not a fork. The name is a work in progress. Got suggestions?

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 11:54 AM

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oh! it's a new mod!

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I thought it was your own config of that configurable death one

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uh one sec I'm right in the middle of updating all the other mods for 0.9.2

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 12:25 PM

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rocky leaf https://imgur.com/a/MBXrwzF

Honestly it’s pretty good

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I don’t see the issue with not being able to loot your corpse well maybe not 5 minutes

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If you die at home you screw up or you did it voluntary

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It can be 1 minute or 2 minutes

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Food at 25% and all your nutriment balance lowered to 15%

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 12:29 PM

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no, that just screws over the player even further if they run out of food or something

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 12:31 PM

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I find it funny

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But I guess just reducing their food bar is enough

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 1:12 PM

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@brave cairn I was wondering the tool for ores is broken but we do we have a file or something to look up the ore veins?

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I'm trying to not say stupid things in the quests

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and could we make some kind of excel anyway even to plan better ores with space update later on

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 1:12 PM

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the oregen data is in /kubejs/data/tfg/worldgen/configured_feature/*/vein

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 1:13 PM

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That's the best we got ? :p

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 1:13 PM

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gloomy elm and could we make some kind of excel anyway even to plan better ores with space ...

no, the tool will put everything in the field guide

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 1:13 PM

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not for the players but just for development

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 1:13 PM

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ideally you'd write all the veins in the tool (like how you add langs now), then it generates both these vein files as well as the field guide pages

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 1:14 PM

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the guide is pretty cool ingame but it's less useful when you want to see everything in a more homogeneic way

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 1:14 PM

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spreadsheet was bad because you'd either have to make a new spreadsheet for each version or old ones would get stomped on

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 1:15 PM

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spreadsheet was terrible for players but I thought it was useful for dev

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and it's not possible to implement the veins to EMI?

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 1:15 PM

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it was also just really unintuitive... like hecuba completely missed it and looked through the oregen jsons

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 1:15 PM

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I thought that was a gregtech thing

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 1:15 PM

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gloomy elm and it's not possible to implement the veins to EMI?

only if you use gt's own oregen, which is part of the reason 0.8 failed lol

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 1:15 PM

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damn

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that sux

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 1:16 PM

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gt's oregen just has no idea how to handle different stone layers

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 1:16 PM

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not surprise

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 1:17 PM

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anyway uh, just waiting for xikaro to say what we do with redeix's PR while nebby is away, then I can send him everything for 0.9.2

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 1:17 PM

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gonna try to finish the quests today

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it's raining terrible

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sounds like a good day to do some copy/pasta

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 1:17 PM

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nice nice

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 1:24 PM

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rocky leaf test this build

it works, but I would still like a way to keep the same amount of hunger as before, instead of just setting it to a specific amount

rocky leaf Apr 26, 2025, 1:30 PM

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ok, i got it

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 1:56 PM

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brave cairn it works, but I would still like a way to keep the same amount of hunger as befo...

not even reducing it a small amount 🥺

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lowering the nutriton a bit?

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 1:56 PM

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I don't think that's necessary

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it's just to stop people avoiding the food system entirely

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 1:57 PM

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That's needed I was the first to do so

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but I like penalty for dying I guess

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 1:57 PM

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I mean, it sounds like it'll be configurable if you want more of a punishment lol

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 1:58 PM

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:p will see then maybe i could push a bit towards it

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for now atleast fixing the issue of dying giving you back food

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is most important

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 2:09 PM

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alright quick follow up to the worldgen bug yesterday, it was specifically TagPrefix.ORES.remove(TagPrefix.ore)

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I assume when the base ore gets removed it kinda tells the game to remove all raw ores too or something stupid like that

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as for why it works for everyone else? who knows

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 2:13 PM

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nice find!

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 2:19 PM

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also if the ore blocks are supposed to give their respective stone dusts if macerated, it doesn't seem to work on my version

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 2:23 PM

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no, but they normally aren't even obtainable until you get the multiblock miner and run it on silk touch mode

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which afaik, nobody really does since it's worse than the auto crushing mode

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and there's no other way to silk touch those

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 2:28 PM

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hm, fair enough

zealous atlas Apr 26, 2025, 2:30 PM

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brave cairn if nebby isn't around (on holiday) do I merge with just one reviewer, or what? a...

Yes, you can even confirm your PR, you need two of any kind

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 2:35 PM

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oh ok! @coral vault I guess you can approve your own PRs now

zealous atlas Apr 26, 2025, 2:37 PM

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zealous atlas Yes, you can even confirm your PR, you need two of any kind

Regarding TFG Core, I'll do some stuff there and merge it

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 2:42 PM

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Can you remove "Multiblock Dillema" on dev branch Pyritie? I don't think I can do a request for that

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I want to do some cleaning also for 0.9.2 on quests with [Rework Ongoing] or something on the ones that aren't up to date yet

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 2:43 PM

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0.9.2 is still an alpha, so it's ok if things aren't up to date yet

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 2:43 PM

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oh okay good then

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but can you delete Multiblock Dillema anyway :p

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 2:45 PM

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yeah sure

coral vault Apr 26, 2025, 4:08 PM

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brave cairn oh ok! <@407297092831281173> I guess you can approve your own PRs now

I cant actually review my own pr. But I guess I can just merge while bypassing the rules?

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 4:14 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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sure why not

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 4:31 PM

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I tried to use chatgpt to fill the json file but it's been half an hour lol

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I'm killing so many pinguins god damn it

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And yeah it's only the LV Hatches and ULV bus that lost their Assembler recipes

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a weird one for sure

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@brave cairn do you think it could have something to do with the new drums you created?

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 4:38 PM

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why the hell is this not being considered a json array
Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Not a string: ["tfc:food/green_apple","tfc:food/red_apple","tfc:food/banana","tfc:food/lemon","tfc:food/orange","tfc:food/peach","tfc:food/plum","tfc:food/fig","tfc:food/pineapple"]; Not a JSON object: ["tfc:food/green_apple","tfc:food/red_apple","tfc:food/banana","tfc:food/lemon","tfc:food/orange","tfc:food/peach","tfc:food/plum","tfc:food/fig","tfc:food/pineapple"]

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it works if there's 7 entries in the array but not more

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I was trying to add them to the potato cannon using the new json datapack format but it's being annoyed at me for no reason

coral vault Apr 26, 2025, 4:40 PM

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cosmic veldt why the hell is this not being considered a json array ```Caused by: java.lang....

Can you show the code?

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 4:40 PM

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📎 tfc_fruits.json

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https://github.com/Creators-of-Create/Create/blob/0486dd568763f5f9b791dd6288b90a36416852ec/src/generated/resources/data/create/create/potato_projectile/type/fish.json this is how they do it in their own datapack json, surely this syntax should work?

GitHub

Create/src/generated/resources/data/create/create/potato_projectile...

[Forge Mod] Building Tools and Aesthetic Technology - Creators-of-Create/Create

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I mean i know it works, it works if you remove 2 entries from the array

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it's definitely not that datapacks have some arbitrary limit or something because I KNOW other jsons have arrays much larger than this for example the terrain features ones

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 4:43 PM

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gloomy elm I tried to use chatgpt to fill the json file but it's been half an hour lol

fill the json file...?

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 4:44 PM

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yeah lol

coral vault Apr 26, 2025, 4:44 PM

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cosmic veldt https://github.com/Creators-of-Create/Create/blob/0486dd568763f5f9b791dd6288b90a...

Yeah, it looks fine to me... Weird

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Have you tried restarting your client? I know sometimes jsons don't like to work on /reload

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 4:47 PM

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gloomy elm yeah lol

if you don't even know what you're doing then why would a glorified autocorrect understand either?

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 4:48 PM

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brave cairn if you don't even know what you're doing then why would a glorified autocorrect ...

Well on this one I know it's not difficult

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 4:49 PM

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then write it yourself...?

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 4:50 PM

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you show it examples on how to do it then you ask to copy it

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it's taking hours I was curious to see if it works

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but it seems it's taking too long I gonna have to finish it by hands

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that was the perfect job for a glorified autocorrect though

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 4:53 PM

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i personally never found doing work like this with an llm worth it because i always end up fixing the output to work correctly anyway lol

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 4:55 PM

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I guess you right

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 4:56 PM

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coral vault Have you tried restarting your client? I know sometimes jsons don't like to work...

yep still does it on reload

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 6:04 PM

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ok wtf

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I just started getting that isDoubleDrops crash

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oh I had an old tfg-core

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if I replace it with my new tfg-core, it works fine

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...or not. WELP

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I have no clue why it was working yesterday

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 6:10 PM

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modding works in mysterious ways

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 6:30 PM

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abstract kestrel Apr 26, 2025, 6:55 PM

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does it need hv or above to get extra output

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 6:56 PM

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yes

abstract kestrel Apr 26, 2025, 6:57 PM

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so steel and aluminium one is useless right?

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 6:58 PM

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no, they can do large amounts at a time, they're much faster

patent marsh Apr 26, 2025, 8:11 PM

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brave cairn the goal is to just stop people from killing themselves instead of eating

nah bro dont do that 😭

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we aint hardrock

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 8:14 PM

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patent marsh we aint hardrock

making you engage with the whole food system is not hardrock levels of evil lol

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all those debuffs and not being able to pick up your corpse for 5 mins? now that's the kind of shit I expect to see over there lol

copper solar Apr 26, 2025, 8:20 PM

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only giving you back 10% hunger is pretty good. shouldn't affect much else.

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or maybe you can't sprint with that low hunger, might make corpse recovery a little harder, gotta eat first

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not a big deal if you spawn in your base with food, but if you used a temporary bed somewhere... well i guess there are glow berries all over in the neath anyway

patent marsh Apr 26, 2025, 8:23 PM

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brave cairn making you engage with the whole food system is not hardrock levels of evil lol

what if its like mid winter, you live in a 'bad' (cold) climate zone and your food has all rotted

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 8:24 PM

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patent marsh what if its like mid winter, you live in a 'bad' (cold) climate zone and your fo...

then go fish or hunt, that's around all year

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 8:40 PM

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patent marsh we aint hardrock

it's definitely not hardrock

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And tfg has now so many more qol to ease the facility of the game

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if you remove hunger from the game

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remove rotten food

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remove water management or traveling

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I wouldn't even understand why you would want to play TFC

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 8:56 PM

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random thought - if we've got kaolin/rubber trees for the tropics, and rosin/rose quartz for the north... should we put something in the desert?

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 9:04 PM

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Oh I would love to have to go to the desert they look so cool too

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 9:07 PM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703012878852292629/1365773361573007410/image.png?ex=680e8710&is=680d3590&hm=44f70ba83b93b1ab4928ee25435c02870179bf783a66fffcbf833b7367c82475& https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703012878852292629/1365777509286674492/image.png?ex=680e8aed&is=680d396d&hm=9536330daa680af2d169d11233519579e8afe3625c427f789b1b5825110c51e8&
tfc posted their new desert changes (salt flats!) which got me thinking

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 9:13 PM

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brave cairn https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703012878852292629/1365773361573007410/im...

oh gosh

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the salt one is beautiful

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 9:14 PM

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ikr, so many of the 1.21 tfc worldgen changes look so good

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 9:14 PM

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brave cairn https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/703012878852292629/1365773361573007410/im...

it's like beginning in Rimworkd with one colonist in the middle of the desert

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 9:14 PM

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brave cairn ikr, so many of the 1.21 tfc worldgen changes look so good

they won't backport it?

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 9:14 PM

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no

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 9:14 PM

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that's sad

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 9:14 PM

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1.20 is only getting bugfixes

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 9:19 PM

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how's this packager recipe look?

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cardboard I'm going to make a 5x paper + 4x glue recipe, makes it so you need a decent backlog of paper to start making use of these

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makes sense I think

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 9:20 PM

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I like to keep the hull in the middle just cuz every other gt recipe does that, but the rest looks good, if that's where you want to balance it!

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 9:21 PM

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i could swap the hull and bars around, that might make more sense immediately

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 9:36 PM

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cosmic veldt how's this packager recipe look?

honestly it's hard to say as I still didn't play with Create 6

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But I guess it will be easier to do some fix after we playtest a bit

exotic wraith Apr 26, 2025, 10:44 PM

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aight

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back home

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hello chat

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do i have shit to review?

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 10:45 PM

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not any more

exotic wraith Apr 26, 2025, 10:45 PM

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eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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gewd

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cuz i'm too tired to review things

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lmao

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 10:45 PM

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also welcome back! quick update

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0.9.2 is ready, I just sent it off to xikaro

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many many many bug fixes. Also a few new things. Check the changelog

exotic wraith Apr 26, 2025, 10:45 PM

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sure, i'll take a looksie

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 10:46 PM

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Hey!

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 10:47 PM

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some mod changes as well. Nothing major, but I removed auroras and rainboows in favour of tfc caelum because it also adds very realistic sun/moon positions and planets! so that goes well with our space stuff

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airrice has gotten create 6 mostly working, we're basically only waiting on steam n rails and horse power to update, and both are being actively worked on

exotic wraith Apr 26, 2025, 10:48 PM

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brave cairn 3) airrice has gotten create 6 mostly working, we're basically only waiting on s...

Pog

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yeah this seems like some very good shit

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 10:50 PM

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also I drew this today because man I need a fukken break lmao

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I want this damn hyperfixation to go away already please

cosmic veldt Apr 26, 2025, 10:52 PM

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brave cairn 3) airrice has gotten create 6 mostly working, we're basically only waiting on s...

don't forget CC:C bridge!

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 10:52 PM

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oh yeag

exotic wraith Apr 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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brave cairn I want this damn hyperfixation to go away already _please_

wake up py time to spend every single waking hour designing biomes for planets!

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 10:59 PM

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stop tempting me with things I actually enjoy

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KEK

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I do wanna at least make sure 0.9's nice and stable before getting back into space stuff

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not looking forward to merging my branch in either...

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I guess I'll work more on the field guide thing tomorrow since I already started rewriting it

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and I think most of the other bugs should all be covered now

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there's still a couple like a bunch of vanilla items having incorrect recycling recipes (thanks, gregtech) and someone said their damascus steel screwdriver wasn't working? (prob just missing a bit of nbt like the aoe tools were)

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otherwise once people play around with 0.9.2 for a bit to find any other bugs, and we get the quest + field guide finished and proofread, I'd say we're pretty ready to publish a stable build 🤔

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:10 PM

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brave cairn also I drew this today because man I need a fukken break lmao

looks great

exotic wraith Apr 26, 2025, 11:16 PM

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brave cairn I guess I'll work more on the field guide thing tomorrow since I already started...

speaking of

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hows the uhh

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ore gen thing

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the jsons files

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i'll need to rewrite that tool eventually

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 11:17 PM

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I already started it dw

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that's what I'm referring to, the tool

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:18 PM

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So how do you guys get all your chapter files into the lang file without spending hours copy/pasting everything ?

exotic wraith Apr 26, 2025, 11:20 PM

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gloomy elm So how do you guys get all your chapter files into the lang file without spendin...

wym

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like

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quest chapters?

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the tool (language merger) copies the language output to the kjs stuff

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:22 PM

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wut

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no

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I mean

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I do the text in the FTB editor

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then I have to replace all the text with the code from the kubejs lang file

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maybe I'm doing it in a terrible not efficient way

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        {
            dependencies: ["2AD44111B9B39C90"]
            description: [
                "Any Steel you encounter in day-to-day life is most likely &7Stainless Steel&r. It is extremely resilient against corrosion.&r"
                ""
                "Stainless Steel is the material for &6HV&r components, like Aluminium for &bMV&r and Steel for &7LV&r. It is also used in high quantities for the &3Distillation Tower&r."
                ""
                "It requires &cChromium&r, obtained mainly from &cRuby&r or &cChromite&r, and &2Manganese&r, obtained from &2Pyrolusite&r and others in its vein."
                "{@pagebreak}"
                "Smelting Stainless Steel requires &dHV Power&r, which you likely do not have at this point. Scaling Power Production is crucial."
                ""
                "If you &9haven't already&r, it would be a good idea to get a second EBF going. They can share blocks, so that means your second EBF only requires &a10 Cupronickel Coils&r instead of 16."
                ""
                "Have one EBF run off &bMV&r for Aluminium and any other recipes requiring &bMV&r Power, and one running off &6HV&r with &32 MV Energy Hatches&r."
            ]
            icon: "gtceu:stainless_steel_ingot"
            id: "16A6AE5C770DB83A"
            shape: "octagon"
            size: 1.5d
            subtitle: "HV is in your grasp"
            tasks: [{
                id: "3192FF80FBDC7A28"
                item: "gtceu:stainless_steel_ingot"
                type: "item"
            }]
            title: "Stainless Steel"
            x: 1.5d
            y: 7.5d
        }

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like I got that in the chapter .snbt file

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then either I replace everything on the file or by using the ftb quest editor

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to get

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        {
            dependencies: ["22E462070F8B027A"]
            description: [
                "{quests.medium_voltage.mv_energy.desc.1}"
                "{@pagebreak}"
                "{quests.medium_voltage.mv_energy.desc.2}"
                "{@pagebreak}"
                "{quests.medium_voltage.mv_energy.desc.3}"
                "{@pagebreak}"
                "{quests.medium_voltage.mv_energy.desc.4}"
                "{@pagebreak}"
                "{quests.medium_voltage.mv_energy.desc.5}"
                "{@pagebreak}"
                "{quests.medium_voltage.mv_energy.desc.6}"
            ]
            icon: "gtceu:mv_steam_turbine"
            id: "583D0CC4FAA4FC98"
            shape: "square"
            size: 1.0d
            subtitle: "{quests.medium_voltage.mv_energy.subtitle}"
            tasks: [{
                id: "1F170291094582D6"
                item: {
                    Count: 1
                    id: "ftbfiltersystem:smart_filter"
                    tag: {
                        "ftbfiltersystem:filter": "or(item(gtceu:mv_steam_turbine)item(gtceu:mv_gas_turbine)item(gtceu:mv_combustion)item(gtceu:mv_1a_energy_converter)item(gtceu:mv_4a_energy_converter)item(gtceu:mv_8a_energy_converter)item(gtceu:lv_transformer_1a)item(gtceu:lv_transformer_2a)item(gtceu:lv_transformer_4a))"
                    }
                }
                title: "MV Generators"
                type: "item"
            }]
            title: "{quests.medium_voltage.mv_energy.title}"
            x: 6.0d
            y: -0.5d
        }

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and copy everything in the kubejs file

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 11:25 PM

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for that specific case, how come you split the two pages into 6?

coral vault Apr 26, 2025, 11:25 PM

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Alright, I'm back from fishing 😎 how we lookin?

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:25 PM

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brave cairn for that specific case, how come you split the two pages into 6?

lots of text on this one

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feels easier in 6 pages

exotic wraith Apr 26, 2025, 11:25 PM

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gloomy elm ``` { dependencies: ["22E462070F8B027A"] descrip...

i dont think there's a good way for this, there is a reason why i just dont use it 😓

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:25 PM

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that's the longest quest actually

exotic wraith Apr 26, 2025, 11:25 PM

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coral vault Alright, I'm back from fishing 😎 how we lookin?

i'm alive apparently

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 11:26 PM

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gloomy elm feels easier in 6 pages

thonk that's like one sentence per page, that's too much imo

coral vault Apr 26, 2025, 11:27 PM

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Found some cool rocks by the lake. No kaolin tho

exotic wraith Apr 26, 2025, 11:27 PM

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i have no idea what to do however, i'm too tired today to do anything however

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so

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isaac_shrug

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:28 PM

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brave cairn <:thonk:918066159612465192> that's like one sentence per page, that's too much i...

no it's actually a very long one

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I can't show you the quest in formate

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because well

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this one is already put in formate ahah

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 11:28 PM

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exotic wraith i have no idea what to do however, i'm too tired today to do anything however

there's always the issue tracker or this page https://github.com/orgs/TerraFirmaGreg-Team/projects/10/views/5 if you're lookin for something to do

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or you could do the tool instead while I do... something else lol

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:29 PM

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So basically there is no good solution to do it faster?

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 11:29 PM

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gloomy elm this one is already put in formate ahah

ohh it's a different quest, gotcha

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:29 PM

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oh yeah

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I took different stuff

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 11:29 PM

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I thought you were showing the before and after of the same quest

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I didn't look at the IDs

exotic wraith Apr 26, 2025, 11:30 PM

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i'll see what i can do

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i might just fuck around in figura

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idk

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:30 PM

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I'm just slow but I think I should just write the quest directly in the kubejs file

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but as I try to use colors

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It's easier to see if it looks good in the ftb quest editor

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then copy paste it

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:31 PM

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exotic wraith i might just fuck around in figura

we didn't progress in the server though!

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so you didn't miss much there

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 11:31 PM

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yeah I haven't logged on since you left

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:32 PM

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I think I just rebuild the cellar to have two floors and be besides the kitchen and that's basically it

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well time to go back to my dumb quests

exotic wraith Apr 26, 2025, 11:32 PM

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gloomy elm I think I just rebuild the cellar to have two floors and be besides the kitchen ...

funnily enough i wanted to make an outdoor kitchen right on the platform where the thing was

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😭

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:32 PM

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exotic wraith funnily enough i wanted to make an outdoor kitchen right on the platform where t...

oh fuck sorry

exotic wraith Apr 26, 2025, 11:32 PM

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nah you're good

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i never told anyone

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:45 PM

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We could still make an other outside kitchen

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Do I still have the time to include my quests in 0.9.2?

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 11:45 PM

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I already sent it off

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it's not like we're in a rush anyway

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0.9.2's still an alpha as well

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:46 PM

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😦

brave cairn Apr 26, 2025, 11:47 PM

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I didn't get to include the field guide either 😔

gloomy elm Apr 26, 2025, 11:48 PM

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I guess 0.9.3 will have an even bigger revamp for quest

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 12:02 AM

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Frogport

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postbox

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 12:03 AM

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oop

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also, quick question

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are we going to put the storage solutions from create into a mineral found in the snowy areas?

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that'd be pog

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 12:03 AM

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i'm keeping these relatively accessible because the packager is going to be the limiting factor, making the packages should be relatively difficult but routing them should be kinda easy

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 12:03 AM

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exotic wraith are we going to put the storage solutions from create into a mineral found in th...

yeah the current idea is we're going to have a mound or spire or something like that that stands out and spawns relatively often in low temps and lowland biomes that has rose quartz

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 12:04 AM

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throw some tools in the recipes 😛

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 12:04 AM

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rose quartz can get processed into a rose quartz lens, then you'll use the lens to make logistic chips or whatever

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still thinking about how to do those although the create 6.0 transmitter item could be fine

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 12:04 AM

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brave cairn throw some tools in the recipes 😛

mm good idea

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probably gotta add assembler recipes alongside these too

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 12:05 AM

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sounds good

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I've been neglecting those

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 12:06 AM

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i wish we could make a helper method that creates a crafting recipe + assembler

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and just

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 12:06 AM

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if I just make the recipe use #forge:tools does it automatically know to not expend the tool?

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 12:06 AM

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somehow removes any tools found in the crafting recipe

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lol

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 12:07 AM

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cosmic veldt if I just make the recipe use #forge:tools does it automatically know to not exp...

if it's one of the GT tools, yes
if it's a tfc tool (like the chisel) you need to wrap that "damage inputs" method around it

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 12:07 AM

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ah, ok

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I was just checking because I didn't see anything special with the GT tools so wasn't sure if i had to define it somewhere else or whatever

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 12:08 AM

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nope they're easy to work with

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 12:08 AM

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exotic wraith *somehow* removes any tools found in the crafting recipe

ahah that would be great

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but it's true that we should definitely have an assembler recipe for any recipe that uses tools

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assembler or something else obviously

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 12:09 AM

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exotic wraith *somehow* removes any tools found in the crafting recipe

I mean, you could probably do something with checking if the string starts with #forge/tools

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iirc the chisels are the only ones we use that are an exception

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so that can be special cased

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 12:14 AM

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do we have some guidelines on which circuit number to use for what kind of recipe?

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 12:16 AM

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uhhhh not really besides "use 1 for the most common thing" and "don't collide"

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shoutouts to the old stone bricks recipes where 1 gave you an aqueduct while the brick blocks were on 0

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Death

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 12:58 AM

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cosmic veldt Frogport

:)

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 1:20 AM

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cosmic veldt Frogport

I dont know the price of the item vault but it may be expensive? same with the postbox?

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 1:26 AM

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Capture_decran_2025-04-26_a_21.26.00.png

Capture_decran_2025-04-26_a_21.26.10.png

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item vault seems a bit cheap and there is a weird difference with 3 chests for the assembler recipe

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 1:35 AM

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huh thats a weird recipe

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 1:49 AM

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gloomy elm

well that makes sense, except the chest thingy

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god I want to play this thing again, probably whenever create 6 is added

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not to be an ahole but best time would be june/july 😉 (and I know it doesnt depend entirely on you)

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thank you all for your effort

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 2:22 AM

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i think i'm just going to make the item vault 1 chest over the board, it only holds 20 stacks of items anyway

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 2:28 AM

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merry briar god I want to play this thing again, probably whenever create 6 is added

yeah I think everyone is pretty excited of having Create 6 implemented

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gosh finally finished MV Chapter quests

abstract kestrel Apr 27, 2025, 3:18 AM

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brave cairn 0.9.2 is ready, I just sent it off to xikaro

where can we download it? i cant find in the github
https://github.com/TerraFirmaGreg-Team/Modpack-Modern/releases

GitHub

Releases · TerraFirmaGreg-Team/Modpack-Modern

An innovative modpack that contains GregTech and TerraFirmaCraft on 1.20.x. - TerraFirmaGreg-Team/Modpack-Modern

blazing swan Apr 27, 2025, 3:20 AM

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abstract kestrel where can we download it? i cant find in the github https://github.com/TerraFirm...

I think it is sent off to xikaro for reviewing the pull request/upload to curse/modrinth

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:20 AM

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abstract kestrel where can we download it? i cant find in the github https://github.com/TerraFirm...

You should wait until it's officially out

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 4:32 AM

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Alright, LV recipes. I've tried to balance these so everything except the factory gauge should be available relatively early
Transmitter:
Red alloy double plate + pink (rose quartz) lens, LV laser engraver

Stock link:
2x screws + 1 LV circuit + 1 transmitter + 1 metal casing + 2x ULV coil

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Stock ticker:
3x glass pane + stock link + 2x resistor + wrought iron plate

Redstone requester:
3x Wrought iron plate + stock link + 2x ULV circuit + red alloy plate

2x Factory gauge:
3x annealed copper foil + diode + precision mechanism + TFC lens + stock link

The annealed copper foil and diode requirement should gate the gauge to late LV, everything else should be doable mid to early LV if you really want to.

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like the original plans this should make it so you can still use the frogport(chain conveyor network) and postboxes(train network), as well as basic storage via packagers in ULV

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 4:51 AM

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So logistic is available ULV and autocrafting LV ?

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 5:03 AM

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yep that's what I was thinking

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well, manual logistics at least

coral vault Apr 27, 2025, 5:50 AM

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do we have a fix for the .isDoubleDrops() crash yet?

abstract kestrel Apr 27, 2025, 6:18 AM

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gloomy elm So logistic is available ULV and autocrafting LV ?

what is the logistic you talk about

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 9:13 AM

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coral vault do we have a fix for the .isDoubleDrops() crash yet?

yes, get latest

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 9:15 AM

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cosmic veldt Alright, LV recipes. I've tried to balance these so everything except the factor...

careful with the "any screws" tag because it also includes wooden screws which are insanely cheap lol - otherwise looks nice, though the ulv coil normally is a power generation related thing 🤔

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@zealous atlas pls give @copper solar contributor, they're oosyrag on github

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also thank you for the publish ❤️

zealous atlas Apr 27, 2025, 9:55 AM

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I would also like it to go into beta and give the opportunity to update the server

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 10:10 AM

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zealous atlas I would also like it to go into beta and give the opportunity to update the serv...

me too - I think all we need for that is to finish the field guide and the rest of the quest proofreading

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I will work on the field guide today

blazing swan Apr 27, 2025, 10:26 AM

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📎 hs_err_pid20732.log

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 10:29 AM

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oh no!

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someone else reported the millstone crashing at one point but couldn't reproduce it

copper solar Apr 27, 2025, 10:33 AM

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It's very intermittent. Not related to specific ores, and doesn't happen for me in creative with just millstoning a bunch of stuff.

zealous atlas Apr 27, 2025, 10:36 AM

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@brave cairn change, in pakku.json, project side

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 10:41 AM

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zealous atlas <@545532674828271616> change, in pakku.json, project side

add this to it?

        "caelum": {
            "side": "BOTH"
        },
        "tfc-caelum": {
            "side": "BOTH"
        }```

zealous atlas Apr 27, 2025, 11:15 AM

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yes

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 11:15 AM

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ok, committed

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should I PR these into main?

zealous atlas Apr 27, 2025, 11:21 AM

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No, I'll change it manually for now

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 11:21 AM

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ok 👍

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 11:29 AM

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brave cairn careful with the "any screws" tag because it also includes wooden screws which a...

hmm, alright

rocky leaf Apr 27, 2025, 12:05 PM

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@brave cairn new build, added new better config screen, new config options

📎 deathpunishment-1.20.1-1.0.0.8.jar

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 2:34 PM

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chat is this a W? (got tfc chains to be compatible with the chain conveyors)

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 2:34 PM

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yoooo nice

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 2:34 PM

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still need a way to make it so you can get back the specific type of chain you used to link it up if you dismantle it, maybe even render the chain differently, but otherwise it seems to just work

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how would I start doing that I wonder... I guess I could just mixin to add a metaltype member or w/e to the chain conveyor entity itself and then go on from there

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also I've just decided to leverage the tagprefixes we already define in tfg-core to do this, which means that all metal chains will now be under the tag #forge:chains/[METAL TYPE] ? dunno if this might break anything

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 2:40 PM

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cosmic veldt how would I start doing that I wonder... I guess I could just mixin to add a met...

I mean if you wanna go to that effort, sure

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 2:40 PM

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cosmic veldt also I've just decided to leverage the tagprefixes we already define in tfg-core...

I think there was a tag we were using before for chains in recipes? but as long as those are replaced then that's fine

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 2:40 PM

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yeah it was tfg:metal_chains or whatever, defined in kubejs

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but this should be more elegant and easier to work off of later in case we wanna add any other materials' chains

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 2:41 PM

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sounds good

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 2:43 PM

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brave cairn I mean if you wanna go to that effort, sure

I'm also thinking of maybe modifying the chain costs per TFC metal tier or something so you can't just use the cheapest ones for maximum effect

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which should be doable if I can somehow make the mixin reference which material went into it

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 2:45 PM

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🤔

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might be cool

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personally I don't mind if we keep things simple, it's up to you

cosmic veldt Apr 27, 2025, 2:51 PM

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it's just because the create 6 stuff is going to be blocked by s&r not updating anyway, haha

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more than enough time for me to mess around with a bunch of stuff and make the integration for this content as nice as possible

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:01 PM

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fair enough!

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tbh I could always just merge in all the space stuff so you guys can start playing around with it and see if you get any ideas

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until I get back to working on more worldgen

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the moon is still pretty plain at the moment

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:03 PM

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As I'm beginnng to shape HV and EV quests I would like if we begin to speak space implementation of Gregtech

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We have so many different ideas it would be cool if we begin to see which ones we go for

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what's the philosophy we want to implement (no teleportation, ores unlimited or new processing lines to get more out of it, how hard the first rocket should be, do we modify old GT line to implement them in space?)

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stuffs like that

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basically what do we want space to be

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should it just be a place we go sometimes to grab ressources

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shall we be urge on to make outpost base

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:08 PM

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I want to make it so you'll be required to at least have a small setup on each planet -- similar to factorio, where you have 3 things to automate. Power, making new "rockets" (or whatever consumable to send stuff home), and then the core greg component

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 3:09 PM

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So wait, the official server is going to use 0.9 now?

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:09 PM

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Power can be different on each planet - ad astra has its own solar panels that can be configured to do different amounts of power on each place, so we can make them useless on mars/venus for example but good on the moon

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:10 PM

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exotic wraith So wait, the official server is going to use 0.9 now?

only when we go out of alpha

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 3:10 PM

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Ohh

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Ok gewd

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:10 PM

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brave cairn Power can be different on each planet - ad astra has its own solar panels that c...

I would prefer if we keep things full Gregtech personnally and that's easily doable for solar pannel

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 3:10 PM

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Guess my server will stay afloat a bit longer

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:10 PM

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I like a smaller server though

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:10 PM

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gloomy elm I would prefer if we keep things full Gregtech personnally and that's easily doa...

as far as I can tell the gt solar panels just generate the same power wherever

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:10 PM

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you don't go to bed in summer to wake up one year later still in summer :p

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:11 PM

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brave cairn as far as I can tell the gt solar panels just generate the same power wherever

we can make a custom multiblock generator

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that's doable with kubejs

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:11 PM

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power generation with multiblocks is annoying, speaking from experience with the old alternator

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the ad astra solars are fiiiine

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:11 PM

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uh I think power generation with multiblock is peak gaming

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Gregtech is multiblock if you ask me

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:11 PM

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well ideally I'd like to have nuclear on mars so that can be your gaming

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:12 PM

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remove the multiblock from Gregtech and no one would play it anymore

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if you want to get people excited about Gregtech

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just make new multiblocks

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that's this easy lol

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:12 PM

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brave cairn well ideally I'd like to have nuclear on mars so that can be your gaming

nuclear is too hard for me except if we do a real basic one

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there is different addons being worked on for Nuclear though

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:13 PM

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when I see gregtech modpacks that turn into multiblock spam they always end up with stupid shit like this lol https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1186025944222269580/1363360179369803888/2025-04-19_23.46.16.png?ex=680efa1c&is=680da89c&hm=87c82209dd8be5c3f21c0334c08610f90a156e286b24a303fbe03a2212ba4bdd&

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:13 PM

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yeah there is a fine balance ahah

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we can have a 5x5x2 multiblock for solar power

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even a 3x3x3

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no need to go stupidly big

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:14 PM

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the solars are fine

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:14 PM

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it can be chill

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then you use RF to generate power

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with ad adstra

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:14 PM

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that's fine, there's an RF to EU converter, same with the create additions alternators we're using right now

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:14 PM

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oh but that feels so bad for a gt pack 😦

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:14 PM

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it's fiiiiiine

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:15 PM

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fine =/ fun

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:15 PM

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don't overcomplicate it, you're prob only gonna use these on the moon anyway

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:16 PM

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Overcomplicate and Greg integration are two different things but

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so what do you want for core gregtech component from the moon

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:16 PM

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integrated doesn't mean "avoid using completely"

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:16 PM

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I disagree with you on this one but it's your decision

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I mean if you don't want to make new lines or new multiblock what should we do on the moon besides extracting ressources with large/void miners and maybe fluid rigs

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:17 PM

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it's not that different from using create instead of greg's LP machines

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:18 PM

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It's okay this way because it's an alternative and Create uses GT systems

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even though the balance is broken and Create is too strong compared to gt

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which is fine I guess

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:21 PM

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anyway, so far for the moon, we have:

ae2 meteorites, which give you the inscribers
some space base ruins for something to explore, and to give you a few resources so you aren't softlocked
exclusive certus quartz, and I was gonna move the alum/bauxite/ilmenite vein here too
I made moon rock dust centrifuge into a little helium 3. I'm open to changes for this process, but apparently the moon has a lot of helium-3 irl, and that's useful for fusion power late game
a few bedrock ores (just magnetite and olivine so far)

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so at the moment, the moon doesn't need a permanent base unless you want to ship home automatic helium-3 or bedrock ores

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as for mars, my current plan is to add heavy water to the fluid drills (or heavy ice bedrock ore?), which will be used for both nuclear power as well as something to make a component for nano circuits

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:25 PM

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this would be easiest I guess

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brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:25 PM

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yeah, that was my initial idea, to just replace the glowstone with heavy water

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:26 PM

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brave cairn so at the moment, the moon doesn't need a permanent base unless you want to ship...

yeah and Helium-3 has no uses

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the thing is

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:26 PM

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gloomy elm yeah and Helium-3 has no uses

liquid carbon + helium 3 -> oxygen plasma

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:26 PM

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The way I see it now space isn't that fun or useful

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:26 PM

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brave cairn liquid carbon + helium 3 -> oxygen plasma

I think this one sux hard

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it's either nickel plasma at Mk3

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or Helium Plasma? i don't remember

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I never use the first plasma

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:27 PM

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we can balance it as needed, part of the reason it sucks normally is because it's hard to get lots of helium-3

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:27 PM

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you can distil nether air for it though

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but well yeah

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it can be change

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:28 PM

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gloomy elm you can distil nether air for it though

no, only regular and ender air, and they both only give regular helium

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:28 PM

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brave cairn no, only regular and ender air, and they both only give regular helium

nether air is removed?

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:29 PM

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oh nvm you're right it does give helium 3

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barely any tho

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:29 PM

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So the way I see it you want to keep Gregtech vanilla and use space to get some ressources to gate a bit the progression

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:30 PM

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to start with at least

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we can get crazier later

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:30 PM

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I'm afraid it's even less exciting for GT players

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:31 PM

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think about it though

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:31 PM

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because now you deal with normal Gregtech and all its empty chapter

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but

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now you have to travel to space to grab a drum

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:31 PM

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well we'd change the recipe to only work on mars, lol

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:31 PM

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for the wafer?

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:31 PM

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for whatever we want

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:32 PM

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well yeah for whatever

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:32 PM

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maybe you can only make nano circuits on mars or something, idk

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:32 PM

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but without interdimensional AE2

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this may not be fun but just tedious

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Idk

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:32 PM

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that's where this mod comes in https://modrinth.com/mod/dimensional-item-cannons

Modrinth

Dimensional Item Cannons - Minecraft Mod

When moving items in 3 dimensions isn't enough.

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:32 PM

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ahah I forgot about this one

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launching circuits from mars

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:32 PM

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it lets you send stuff between dimensions while requiring ammunition

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:33 PM

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Idk I guess we can begin by implementing stuff like you want

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we'll see how it goes

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so basically for the moon

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:34 PM

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so if you want to send nano circuits around, you'll need to

automate uranium mining and processing
automate whatever you need for the wafers (silicon from a rock crusher, carbon from the air?)
automate what you need for the ammunition to send it elsewhere

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:34 PM

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you already did everything?

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except gregified ad astra pannel

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:34 PM

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the moon already has what I wrote above, yeah

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:34 PM

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brave cairn so if you want to send nano circuits around, you'll need to 1) automate uranium...

you know that people will just make super chest if it's too bothering

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:35 PM

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but I wouldn't call it "finished". I agree it doesn't really have all that much to do at the moment besides "go here and mine and maybe get fusion fuel later"

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:35 PM

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and if it's too simple they will just find it boring and tedious

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:35 PM

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brave cairn but I wouldn't call it "finished". I agree it doesn't really have all that much ...

but I have no idea what to add

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:35 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:35 PM

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honestly it's really hard to expand outside of

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grab ressources

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at least the quests will be easy to make I guess

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:36 PM

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I mean, we can force the player to have an empty inventory when flying on their rocket, lol

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:36 PM

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lol

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:36 PM

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that's how factorio does it to solve that issue

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:36 PM

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You should be cautious about not wanting to be too much Factorio

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As it's not the same way to have fun

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Your ideas on Tfc and Create were amazing because you used the philosophy of the mods to create them

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but on Gregtech I don't know

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it will be vanilla gregtech with factorio dlc ressources management

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:38 PM

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I mean, this is still a lot better than most other times space is added to modpacks where you just mine a specific ore and then leave, lol

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:38 PM

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brave cairn I mean, this is still a lot better than most other times space is added to modpa...

i know and they are awful

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:38 PM

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yes

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and factorio did space very well

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and I imagine there's a lot of overlap between factorio players and gregtech players, so

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they'd probably like to try a minecraft-ified factorio? idk

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:39 PM

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Idk I love both games

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I love Satisfactory

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but I don't play Gregtech the way I play Factorio or Satisfactory

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:39 PM

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I mean I'm very open to more ideas, I'm just bringing you up to speed with what we talked about in the past

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:39 PM

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well we'll see

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let's see how it goes on some play test

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have some opinions from players and we can modify it later on if we feel like so

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:40 PM

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like besides just the automation you'll also want to automate stuff like oxygen for your space suit, food, and so on

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:40 PM

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I hope we can make a greenhouse 😂

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well food will be rough if we still can't make it from GT machines

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:41 PM

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yeah that bug is annoying lol

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anyway ad astra doesn't come with much, besides:

tiered rockets for player travel that require fuel (I changed it to use gt rocket fuel
a little vehicle that requires fuel (I made it use gt diesels and petrol)
a whole bunch of decoration blocks
a few mobs
a system where you make an enclosed space and then you fill it with oxygen so you can breathe, water doesn't freeze/evaporate, and plants can grow
a few machines (the only interesting ones are the solar panels and a fancy crafting table that has like 15 slots in a rocket shape)
some crafting materials (we can skip all these as needed)

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:45 PM

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brave cairn anyway ad astra doesn't come with much, besides: - tiered rockets for player tra...

yeah I know ad astra quite well

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:45 PM

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so it's up to us to actually put content there

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like a sandworm on mars, lol

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 3:46 PM

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it has good decoration block though

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yeah I remember this discussion that's how I got hooked up into helping with the modpack ahah

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 3:50 PM

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brave cairn like a sandworm on mars, lol

Hell yeah

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I'll update the server

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 3:53 PM

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but yeah if you have ideas on how to force people to build different bases and not just ship everything by hand, I'm open to it lol

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 4:29 PM

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lets see if i did it right

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i made sure to zip the entire directory first

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to avoid fucking it up

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lel

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 4:31 PM

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you may need to add caelum to the server, xikaro poked me about that this morning

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 4:33 PM

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its not in the zip file?

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 4:36 PM

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no, apparently I did the pakku.json wrong

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 4:37 PM

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ooooaaauuugghhhDust

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just caelum, right

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also, which version

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@brave cairn

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(i assume caelum is not missing from the curseforge file)

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 4:39 PM

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uh latest

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I think it's just missing from the curseforge file for servers and not for singleplayer? I'm not sure, xikaro said he'd do it

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 4:39 PM

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i'm quakin it rn

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i'll check it out

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ok so

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Serverpack has caelum

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Curseforge also has Caelum

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so

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uh

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isaac_shrug

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 4:41 PM

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then idk

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 4:50 PM

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brave cairn but yeah if you have ideas on how to force people to build different bases and n...

I have different ideas but should encouraging people to have bases on planets be about making processing lines work only there? And to push them to use the dimensional item cannons my idea would be that they want to passive lines there

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 4:51 PM

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yeah! like for example we could put uranium processing on mars, or some other incentive to do it there instead of on earth or something

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 4:51 PM

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First idea would be that the building of the next tiers rocket is link to technology unlocked from the current chapter, for example making the T2 rocket would need a cleanroom and a vacuum freezer on the moon

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nothing too complicated but already having a cleanroom on the moon would push people to have a good source of passive energy on the moon

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we would prefer to avoid them simply bringing a tank of nitrobenzene or diesel

copper solar Apr 27, 2025, 5:04 PM

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If you want the factorio experience you generally don't "continue" linear progression by traveling just travelling for a new resource, which is what you already do on the starter planet. You add one simple significant constraint that changes the gameplay loop, the means to solve it on that planet, then the progression reward to ship it back to the main base to utilize/process to progress.

To facilitate that you can go the factorio way of just not letting you carry items manually across planets, which might be a little janky in Minecraft, or simply have things not work the same on other planets (ie beds exploding in nether), combustion not working or getting as hot ect.

Some themes for alternate processing might be something like lack of oxygen for combustion but easily available powerful solar, lack of really basic ores and metals, really large distances/bad terrain/hazards between resource nodes. Plant processing focus, animal/mob farming ect. Factorio ideas lol.

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 5:04 PM

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Aight so, server is back up and running 0.9.2

I'm still unable to have DH enabled on it sadly, but it should be running OK now

If you're a contributor and want access, give me your MC user name.

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 5:06 PM

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copper solar If you want the factorio experience you generally don't "continue" linear progre...

yeah whenever we get around to the wetware planet I was definitely thinking of gleba-fying it with tfc's expiration stuff lol

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the other issue we have is that in factorio you always need a continuous supply of science

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whereas gregtech just doesn't have that kind of design

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 5:07 PM

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If we keep the philosophy of what we did up until now, having alternatives harder without travel and easiest with while trying to keep planet relevant for a long time:
-energy production on site has to be more interesting that just bringing big quantity of gas/fuel so the machinery in space should be passive some of it at least
-some stuffs are mandatory to get from the moon (certus, next tier rocket)
-extracting ressources that you can get in higher quantities from the moon and should be made passive to ask for constant energy which can be (gallium/arsenic/chromite ->bauxite/raelgar/chromite ) or the basics from LV/MV (copper/tin)

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yeah the difference with Factorio is that trying to have constant supply isn't the same

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it can be done with ores in GT

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so reworking the veins on overworld is the easiest bet

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You can easily finish vanilla GT with all the ores in the overworld we have now

copper solar Apr 27, 2025, 5:08 PM

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Needing the resources from previous tiers in larger amounts to progress but also the means to get them more easily in larger amounts kinda takes a similar role to science, or reprocessing to a different version. Which is already done.

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 5:08 PM

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yeah, I'm def up for moving the "infinite with stone dust" kinda stuff into space

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so like, you need to mine aluminum for a bit, but on the moon aluminim is infinite

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then on mars/venus, chromium is infinite, etc

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 5:09 PM

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that's the way I would go

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so it needs to be passived

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 5:09 PM

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I don't mind if parts of space get deprecated over time, that happens in greg as well

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 5:10 PM

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the issue is base gt needs so little stuff

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overworld ores will need to be tweaked

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Moni had this issue with large miner being so strong people weren't even using their ressource generation system

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and they had higher difficult tiers

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 5:11 PM

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yeah

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so we can't just rely on "cheaper resources" as a significant reason to build a base

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 5:14 PM

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The way I see it :
-Each planets need a process line for next rocket using stuff from the planet and machines unlock in the chapter
-Each planets offer higher ressources wield
-Each planets or orbit of the planets can later on offer infinite ressource
-Unlock something that gate progress but can be skipped later on

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 5:16 PM

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yep agree

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 5:20 PM

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Moni had an amazing Excel for materials I will try to find it back it could help us to have good vision on ressources

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 5:20 PM

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I am very much not a math person lol

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 5:22 PM

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ahah no it was more of a each tiers need these materials thingy

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no quantity just names

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@exotic wraith do you need to redo the whole whitelist?

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 5:27 PM

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gloomy elm <@207632937338798081> do you need to redo the whole whitelist?

nope

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this time i moved the important stuff into a separate folder

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updated

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then moved the stuff back

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y'all should be able to just connect

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 5:28 PM

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launching it it's been some time

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 5:31 PM

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gonna try to see if i can have DH work on it

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just by supressing the log

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trol

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 5:32 PM

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uhuh

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that would be cool

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shall we make some kind of file to discuss idea and implementation for space?

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Discord without being able to pin may be the worst place lol

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Hmmm I'm crashing on a clean instance of 0.9.2

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something to do with Occulus and Caelum

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it works fine without Caelum

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 5:49 PM

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Server's up again, removed DH from it since its basically just an issue between TFC and DH itself

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 5:54 PM

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Well atleast I can log on the server without Caelum

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https://mclo.gs/iFgZ6mz

mclo.gs

Forge 1.20.1 Crash Report [#iFgZ6mz]

419 lines

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When I add TFC Caelum it crashes during loading of the game

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Is this some kind of compatibility issue with Silicon mac again -_-

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 6:08 PM

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maybe something with your shaders? idk, it worked fine for me

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 6:08 PM

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I didn't add the shaders yet it was fully freshed instal

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Seeing as I am the only one having this issue I feel like blaming stupid mac again

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I'm sad I wanted to see the new sky -_-

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 6:10 PM

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could try removing oculus/iris?

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 6:11 PM

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gonna try

exotic wraith Apr 27, 2025, 6:11 PM

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average mac gaming moment sadly

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 6:12 PM

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there is some weird issue with java and silicon mac apparently

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spark is making minecraft crash when loading world on silicon mac too

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yep it works without Oculus

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But between not having shadders and not having Caelum

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I think I prefer not having Caelum

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I just gonna play with my pc I guess

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Can't even have DH

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It's time to make tons of wheat as the server was just restart lol

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:18 PM

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@brave cairn I think Create washing is weird the more you do at the time the less it takes time kinda like parallel

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so if I set at 400 ticks for processing it gives 20 seconds for 1 crushed ore

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and then if I put 64 crushed ores

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it takes around 1min20 seconds

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but when I use a depot

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it doesn't work lol

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:19 PM

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PepeHands

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create pls

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:19 PM

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#💬│modern-chat-en message

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well

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I think it's okay if a stack is faster than one piece

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if you put a stack with create it's faster than a stack with the ore washer

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it seems okay

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but maybe then we need a good compromise for the basic time

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especially knowing we can put 5 fan on a depot :p

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:22 PM

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well, the basic one is balanced by it being really annoying since you can't move water lmao

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:22 PM

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oh true

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:22 PM

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but yeah

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I guess this is why the bulk washing was so bad in 0.7 lol

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:23 PM

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why the heck this one doesn't work

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:23 PM

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is your washer blowing and not pulling?

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:23 PM

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no it's blowing I checked

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:24 PM

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if you're getting particles then that means it's working

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:24 PM

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same setting

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20 seconds

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maybe it's a Greate bug?

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:25 PM

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Sapo

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was greate a mistake

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:25 PM

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I can't imagine an other culprit

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it's a wonderful idea and mod

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it will work better with Create 6 I expect ?

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:26 PM

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I sure hope so

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:27 PM

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I guess the solution for now is to let the ore washer being broken fast*

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so atleast it's usable

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without space integration do we really care about ores for now anyway

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I fixed in my PR the name of the Ore Processing chapter

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Do i have to do others stuffs on it?

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:39 PM

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what do you mean other stuff?

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:40 PM

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Idk 😅

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 7:48 PM

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gloomy elm <@545532674828271616> I think Create washing is weird the more you do at the tim...

yeah thats a thing of bulk processing

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you can also speed up any bulk process by having more faces of the "block" being afected

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if you wash sand from 4 faces simultaneously it will take way way way less time

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:49 PM

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Yeah I forgot about this one I wonder how it works without being able to use the depot

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They need to be right at the same speed

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:50 PM

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merry briar if you wash sand from 4 faces simultaneously it will take way way way less time

Apparently you divide the processing time by the number of fan

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 7:50 PM

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yeah probably something like that

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:50 PM

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#💬│modern-chat-en message

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 7:51 PM

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and for example if you throw 100 stacks of sand it will take what 1 stack takes

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as long as they are as item entities

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:51 PM

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Oh that’s why there is some method to make bulk blaster faster than anything else

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 7:52 PM

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yeah

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:52 PM

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It capped at one stack?

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I didn’t know about this one

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That’s crazy strong

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:52 PM

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it has the same issues as the bulk blaster honestly

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 7:52 PM

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you can blast 1000 stacks of sand to 1000 stacks of glass in like a couple seconds

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and even more

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:52 PM

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very strong, very hard to balance... but washing is less "powerful" so it's not as big of a deal?

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 7:52 PM

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the limit is your cpu

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you can try and disable entity bluk blast

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if you do that the you pretty much cap it to a 1 stack thing

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:55 PM

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where would that be? I don't see it in the settings

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:55 PM

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Idk how bad it is than the ore washing with Create is too strong

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It’s a huge advantage early game sure

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 7:56 PM

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brave cairn where would that be? I don't see it in the settings

no idea if there is a setting or something

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:56 PM

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bah

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:56 PM

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But at the end of the day it’s not too bad

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 7:56 PM

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gloomy elm Idk how bad it is than the ore washing with Create is too strong

many people comment/complain that bulk blasting for example puts most endgame smelters in other mods to shame

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:56 PM

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Well this one doesn’t exist anymore anyway

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 7:56 PM

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and by extent any bulk recipe

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:57 PM

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yeah bulk blasting def had to go

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:57 PM

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For ore washing I’m like bah why not

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 7:57 PM

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and for example? bulk cooking? or soul sand enchanting?

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:57 PM

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All of that doesn’t exist

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:57 PM

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yeah like you're still gonna be bottlenecked by the thermafuges

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 7:58 PM

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gloomy elm For ore washing I’m like bah why not

I mean, last time I played TFG I used to drop many stacks of dust into a water pool to bulk wash them

brave cairn Apr 27, 2025, 7:58 PM

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I could always make the washing less effective if needed

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right now it does exactly the same as ore washer recipes, a 33% byproduct rate

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that can be changed

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:59 PM

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That could be a way yeah

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 7:59 PM

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merry briar I mean, last time I played TFG I used to drop many stacks of dust into a water p...

this can also be pretty easily automated with create, specially since you dont need stress to move belts at max speed

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 7:59 PM

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I mean with a smart chute and 4 fans I guess you could make some pretty crazy fast washing process

merry briar Apr 27, 2025, 8:00 PM

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yes

gloomy elm Apr 27, 2025, 8:00 PM

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but then macerator and thermal centrifuge would still slow it down

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