🚀EN - 1.20 Modpack Contribution Megathread

[brave cairn]

I'm fully ingregnated

[coral vault]

Best gregards

[spiral lintel]

i mean i do like the progression, it gets cheaper the more advanced methods you have access to...

[brave cairn]

sure but then why is the crafting table less expensive than the alloy smelter?

[brave cairn]

something about a mech mixer doing recipes that involve gases is a little odd, lol

thing I've learned about greate -- it doesn't generate its own recipes off of greg's

it literally just uses greg's recipes

which means you can't be selective

[coral vault]

Hmm. That's not the best

[brave cairn]

the dev said they'd "look into the ability to remove recipes from only greate machines"

so I'll see how that goes

this does mean I've had to go back to the normal mech press for now, because it does all bender recipes and I only want it to do plates and welds

but it's trying to also do springs

[brave cairn]

hrm, I can't even use the normal create mech press

greate forcibly grabs all of the normal mech press recipes, and if you try to unhide the normal mech press, it has no recipes either

I guess we'll just stick with this for now, and separate it whenever the dev implements it -- one problem is that newer greate updates will require create 6

actually hm no let's just disable it for now

I can do something else for the 5:4 plates

that's kind of the only thing we want it for rn anyway

[exotic wraith]

Can someone tell me the differences between the 3 Bronze types?

[brave cairn]

@coral vaulthow are things going on your end?

[exotic wraith]

Bronze, Bismuth Bronze and Black Bronze?

[brave cairn]

like in terms of tool stats?

[exotic wraith]

yes, i'm writing the quest for making your first saw and i have a bit explaining that, while you can go straight for copper, you can try making your saw out of bronze instead by alloying it in the Vessel

[brave cairn]

the basic jist of the bronzes is "use whatever's easiest"

[exotic wraith]

looking at jei, theyre very similar

[brave cairn]

alright according to a sword and a pickaxe, black bronze > bronze > bis bronze in every way

[exotic wraith]

but Bismuth Bronze is the "worst" while Black Bronze is the "best"

yeah

[coral vault]

At work rn. I looked at it a bit this morning and I think I understand most things okay. But the material handler is being a bit tricky. I'm pretty sure I need to import certain classes and I can do some but not the ones I think I need

I'll probably play around with it more. But if I can't get it tonight I'll probably ask for your help

[brave cairn]

alright! I'll be around all weekend + monday

besides this hiccup with greate, things are going ok on my end too

[coral vault]

Is there an updated list of things that need to get done?

[brave cairn]

https://github.com/Pyritie/Modpack-Modern/blob/0.9/TODO.md#

I keep this thing religiously updated

these are basically macerators, so I thought it was ok to make them expensive in different ways since they don't need circuits

as well as use the 'secondary' metals some of these tiers use -- lv has cobalt brass, mv has vanadium steel, etc

🅱️ogwheels

I got rid of bulk blasting, so now the fans are basically ore washers. I need to give them correct recipes though

[coral vault]

Bye bulk blasting 👋 you won't be missed

Wish we could pin stuff. So many links to keep track of lol

[brave cairn]

same

[coral vault]

Greate models have custom textures right? Or do they just point to the location from create? I'd rather be able to make custom textures for them to match their tiers

For the crushing wheel for example

[brave cairn]

they already do, it's just not that noticeable in certain machines

[coral vault]

Okay. I can probably fix that

Probably just need to change the wood and stone to metal type used or something like that

[exotic wraith]

changed around the path for the copper anvil

noticed you should really start mining once you have the workbench

[brave cairn]

yeah, saw and a pickaxe should be your #1 priority metal tools

[exotic wraith]

there we go, thats better

Also... correct me if i'm wrong

you no longer use a hammer for mining

right?

[brave cairn]

correct

[exotic wraith]

aight so, the hammer is used for what exactly?

[brave cairn]

a hammer instead gives rock -> cobble -> gravel -> sand

[exotic wraith]

appart from anvilworking

[exotic wraith]

Ohh, i see

[brave cairn]

(and also turns ore into cobble)

(also it skips steps if the item doesn't exist because fuck making dripstone gravel and all the rest lol)

it's nice though because if you live far inland, sometimes it was actually very annoying to find sand lol

[exotic wraith]

i think i'm in an outdated version of the modpack?

i cant break this native copper with the hammer

[brave cairn]

that's a tfc ore

you want the gt ore

we don't use any of the tfc ore blocks

[exotic wraith]

huh i see

so even mining the native copper it just returned the cobble and no ore

So you cant get easier minerals with the hammer anymore?

iirc it was overall better to just

use the hammer to mine since the crushed versions would give you slightly more mb

[brave cairn]

trying to tell people to mine with hammer was a) very confusing to new players who make pickaxes on instinct, and b) made the pickaxe useless

now, you take the raw ores home and can turn them into crushed there

so it's the same level of "efficiency", just a bit more intuitive I think?

[exotic wraith]

I see, it'll still take either steam or a crushing wheel

[brave cairn]

nope! quern will do it

[exotic wraith]

NYI?

[brave cairn]

haven't done the recipes yet

[exotic wraith]

ahh

ok i see

thats good to know

i'll be sure to update the quests

[brave cairn]

but the idea is you progress from manual quern in stone/copper age, to the millstone in bronze, then later in steel you get automatic washing and the crushing wheels

[exotic wraith]

I like this

[brave cairn]

since the crushing wheels now do the exact thing as the macerators, you don't get that extra bonus

[exotic wraith]

MFW macerating an ore in LV no longer takes forever thanks to the crushing wheel

[brave cairn]

yeah the main bonus of the crushing wheels is they're just much much faster

[exotic wraith]

i like this

Create is finally useful now

[brave cairn]

(also millstones only have ULS and LS tiers, but crushing wheels go up to ES (I disabled everything IS and above, you should use the multiblocks ya dingus))

hopefully this'll make people expand their ore processing area earlier since the only electric thing it'll need is thermafuges

[exotic wraith]

i really like this

[brave cairn]

me 3

[brave cairn]

updated the repo, here's a new tfg-core if you need it

greg night (woo only 2am)

[exotic wraith]

@gloomy elm btw, i noticed your issue now

youre missing the angled brackets between the tokens

its supposed to be {quests.low_voltage.lv_age_progression.title}

not just quests.low_voltage.lv_age_progression.title

[exotic wraith]

IDK why but GT's hazards are broken?

i have both asbestos and lead and nothing is happening

hazards are enabled in the config, fwiw

[coral vault]

This is known

Nerfed in gt update I believe

[exotic wraith]

huh

lame :p

specially since we now have proper early game PPE

[coral vault]

I think pyritie wanted to change it back manually

[exotic wraith]

Stone Age is completed

i like puns

[coral vault]

Im getting stuck here on the material handler

        metalDict.forEach((material, metalType) -> {
            var MetalItemsRNR = RNRItems.MATTOCK_HEADS.get(metalType);
            toolHeadMattock.setIgnored(material, () -> MetalItemsRNR.get().get());
        });

not sure how to do it right since they did it differently than tfc https://github.com/Therighthon/RoadsAndRoofsTFC/blob/main/src/main/java/com/therighthon/rnr/common/item/MattockItem.java

[blazing swan]

whats the error you getting in the log?

[coral vault]

not really an error issue. I just dont know what im doing lol

[blazing swan]

ah ok, I thought maybe a warning or non game crashing error might give a clue what is going wrong, other wise I have no clue

[coral vault]

no im just not really sure how to finish setting the map. tfc uses Metal.ItemType.class while rnr uses Metal.Default.class

my high school java class didnt teach me this

[blazing swan]

seems like Default is for metals, ItemType is for the type given a parsed in metal.
so I think you want to use default as you are already defined the tool type

yeah so you would call this on ItemType.Mattock.Create(Metal.WroughtIron) or something

I guess the difference in logic would be
for each metal -> As mattock -> setIgnore....

v.s
as a mattock -> for each metal -> setIgnore....

[blazing swan]

does ^^ help?

[coral vault]

yeah, I think that makes sense. Still kind of lost. Ill try again tomorrow when my brain is running

thanks

[brave cairn]

let me give it a try

[brave cairn]

I gave up lol
but yeah it's pretty much only dusts that cause hazards now

I did make realgar/cobaltite dust hazardous at least

a problem is that hazards still aren't properly finished, so if you get, say, arsenic poisoning, there's no cure until LV's longass chain to make paracetamol

so that being said I made the realgar/cobaltite hazards less severe, I don't remember exactly but I think they just give you one of the effects that doesn't kill you and goes away on its own after a few mins

to sorta teach the player "hey some of this shit's dangerous" without just killing them outright lol

[brave cairn]

this worked for me:
inside the metalDict.forEach, do this:
toolHeadMattock.setIgnored(material, () -> RNRItems.MATTOCK_HEADS.get(metalType).get()); - I tested it here with the mace head

[gloomy elm]

It should be 12 in the crafting table too because the rod are 1:1 and the plate 2:1 ?

[gloomy elm]

Holy cow

Do I need to change all of them manually ?

[exotic wraith]

Sadly yes :')

I'm positive I did warn you to put the {} around the actual tokens

You could try to just do some find and replace in those two files

Find "quests
Replace with "{quests

Then do the same with each different ending bit, such as
Find title"
Replace with title}"

[coral vault]

I think I literally typed that, but was like. "Nah, that can't be it" 💀 thank you lol

[brave cairn]

yeah all the different .get()s are confusing lol I don't blame you

especially when different mods are not very consistent

especially especially when different items in the same mod aren't consistent either, looking at you vintage additions and your vanadium

[coral vault]

Lol. Sometimes I feel like it would be easier to just make them from scratch than to understand other people's work

[exotic wraith]

certified supplier moment

god i hate java

we have the aether?

wtf?

[coral vault]

Nah, I think that's just a optional dependency for auroras

[exotic wraith]

i see

also

do we want some sort of custom block you need to stand on at bedrock level to go to the beneath?

we could create one then figure out the custom dimension transition from there

oh my

lemme quintuple check i upgraded correctly

You killed off treetap?

i assume you removed the modifications to that mod right

you didnt

actually i'm confused by this desicion

wasnt the idea to keep the treetap mod? just completely disabled?? and you could craft the AFC treetap by just converting the deprecated one

@brave cairn

[brave cairn]

yeah it's just builtin support for aether, we aren't gonna use it lol

[exotic wraith]

unless we no longer plan on making the idea of upgrading from 0.7 to 0.9 a reality anymore

[brave cairn]

already sorted! we just stand on bedrock and off you go, try it out!

[brave cairn]

I removed the treetap mod but created a new treetap:tap block that just has the pink/black texture

[exotic wraith]

ohh, huh

lol

i guess that works?

[brave cairn]

so when they upgrade, their taps will look like very obvious HEY YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING WITH ME things lol

[exotic wraith]

yeah makes sense

[brave cairn]

because otherwise I'm sure we'll get a load of "why are my taps not working" questions

now we could put a texture on these blocks saying "upgrade me" which might help lol

[exotic wraith]

maybe

but i think what you did is just fine

[brave cairn]

what other modifications were there tho

[coral vault]

So, I tried to work on some of the CC addon integration. But, I noticed that most of computer craft does not show up right in jei. Do we know why?

[brave cairn]

I know you added the tooltip

[exotic wraith]

😋

[exotic wraith]

The tooltip and the crafting recipe

that was it really

but since you just

replaced the block with a custom one

and apparently nothing breaks

then its ok

[exotic wraith]

ye

as i said

its A-OK

[brave cairn]

no and I was trying to figure that out but didn't have much luck 🤔 I thiiiiiink someone here said something about like... a recipe name being too long??? @plain imp was it you?

[coral vault]

Yeah, I saw that. But I tried it and it didn't do anything

Also, I tried updating the mod too and nothing

I'm wondering if advanced peripherals is doing it

[brave cairn]

possibly

I did have a similar issue with sophisticated backpacks and the fix was to downgrade a bunch

🦀 bulk blasting is gone 🦀

also, all done adding recycling recipes to all the greate things

[exotic wraith]

So like

can you still make steam with bronze bits?

or is early steam age locked at a specific anvil tier?

[brave cairn]

nah I got rid of the LP boilers because they kept confusing people

[exotic wraith]

source?

[brave cairn]

well ok the recipe isn't removed but it's not visible in jei

(holy hell there's so many gtceu recipes I'd love to remove lol)

[exotic wraith]

ohh, ok fair enough i guess

then steam is locked behind wrought iron?

or at least thats when you'll be able to get steamy?

cuz i'm positive this part of the metallurgy progression isnt accurate anymore

[brave cairn]

why was the LP one there 🤔

[exotic wraith]

it was before we decided to redo steam and mech

the checkmark between them literally is called here be dragons

and was supposed to tell you

"Gregtech's recipes are taken from the GT community pack, and as such may not be 100% accurate to TerraFirmaGreg"

[brave cairn]

ah, sounds like it was left as a placeholder

since we weren't sure if we were doing this overhaul before 0.9 I think? idr

[exotic wraith]

yeah

that was it basically

[brave cairn]

anyway, progression looks more like this rn:

• stone/copper age: no automation lol, crush your ores in a quern and wash them by hand
• bronze age: millstone, animal power, helve hammer for auto plates, first cogs/shafts
• iron age: coke oven means creosote means treated planks (the regular block kind) which you use to make water wheels and windmills. Gearboxes, chutes, basic funnels/tunnels. Basically the "move shit around" starts here
• steel age: tfc blast furnace now requires coke (or anthracite from beneath), upgraded greate tier, all the other andesite casing machines like mech saws, harvesters, drills. Access to bulk washing + crushing wheels. Also fluid pump! so you can automate your blast furnace
• black steel/early steam age: now we get into steam stuff. HP steam boilers and machines will require a little black steel each. Same for the create steam engine. This is when you'd ideally start the latex stuff too
• mid-late steam age: I'm still figuring this part out, but I would like to make more use of ulv circuits, and change their recipe a bit to use some different machines instead of just deployers. Encourage a proper deployer line instead of people scraping by with just one lol. This is also when you'd get all the "brass casing" advanced machines

[exotic wraith]

ohh, noted noted

so steam is gated behind black steel

neat

[brave cairn]

does that sound ok? you get access to much more mechanical stuff before steam, so you're a bit more eased into it

[exotic wraith]

yeah i actually love that

i was a bit sad that create seemed far more like an afterthought

[brave cairn]

nice nice

[exotic wraith]

instead of being part of the progression

anyways, there it is

black steel anvil and from there you start steam

[brave cairn]

pog

[exotic wraith]

You mentioned something about animal power?

thats the first source of stress?

[brave cairn]

yep, from 'create horse power'

basically you leash a bigger animal to this thing and it magically makes SU lol

[exotic wraith]

lol

animal abuse

lets fucking go

what are animal workers?

cows?

horses clearly arent

[brave cairn]

anything you want to put in the config file really

there's 3 animal size categories you can put things in

by default iirc it puts stuff like dogs in the small category

[exotic wraith]

thats really funny

anyways

gonna make some placeholder quests in steam_age with the improvements you've listed

[brave cairn]

cool cool

[exotic wraith]

The helve hammer doesnt have a custom recipe but it is gated behind bronze

right

wild idea

would it be not ok to call the steam age the steampunk age?

considering you work with mechanical

then steam

lol

[plain imp]

might be the registerHighPriorityData or something along that place

that register action gets broken by random stuff that shouldn't affect it

[brave cairn]

correct, I haven't done any recipes or anything for vintage improvements yet

[plain imp]

(aka the main_server script that computercraft uses on register)

[brave cairn]

ooh ok

[exotic wraith]

heh, nice

[brave cairn]

oh it's all scrunched up now

[exotic wraith]

nah metal age is still spaced out like the rest of my quests

thats just placeholder links and quests inside the steam_age group

[sharp smelt]

this update is going to be big

[exotic wraith]

cuz the idea is that you'd be working on the metallurgy age, and as you progress it's tiers you slowly unlock more from the steampunk age

[brave cairn]

it's not exactly steampunk any more then is it 😛

[exotic wraith]

i know but calling it Steam age is not correct either

neither Mechanical age

and "Steam-Mech" is a bit of a mouthful

[brave cairn]

Mechanical age?

time to figure out ore washer recipes 🤔

[exotic wraith]

yknow, Mechanical as in Mechanical Power

Stress

its the entire point of create lol

[brave cairn]

oops I missed your line and was making a name suggestion, but what's wrong with mechanical age or steam age?

[exotic wraith]

Steam Age is not correct because you work with mechanical power, and steam is basically at the end

Mechanical is not correct because you work with steam eventually

so

Steampunk!

[brave cairn]

I mean the whole point of steam is to move mechanical stuff for you, isn't it

[exotic wraith]

i mean, true? but steam doesnt power stuff like the horsecrank or water wheels

actually

fuck it

Industrial Age

that should work

the early years of industrial revolution where powered by steam, which itself powered mechanical devices

[brave cairn]

[spiral lintel]

I think it's a good idea to have a default keybind for the quest book and a chat message upon entering the world telling you to press it.
I've seen people take a while to find it, especially those who don't play questing packs since it's hidden away in the in the corner of the inventory.

[brave cairn]

good idea, do you know how to do that?

[spiral lintel]

the keybind can be done with default options iirc
not so sure about the chat message, hopefully it doesn't need java code

[brave cairn]

that sounds unlikely, it's probably just something in client_scripts

lol, floating point moment

I typed 0.3333

[spiral lintel]

this is why you don't teach rocks how to do maths

[brave cairn]

but hey that's washing done

same rates as gt ore washer

aaaand quern

and with that, I believe that's greate all finished and ready

I'll just keep all the mechanical presses disabled for now, and give its 'cheaper plates' job to something else like uhhh the rolling mill

(so the rolling mill can do both plates and foils, then the mech lathe can do rods)

[exotic wraith]

yummers

0.1 + 0.2 == 0.300000000000001

[exotic wraith]

actually, now that i think about chances

are we keeping my sequenced assembly that only produces sheets with a chance of small dusts?

[brave cairn]

yeah I'm just moving it to a different machine for now

[sharp smelt]

add legendary tooltips to modpack

[brave cairn]

why, this isn't a sort of modpack with oooh rare loot

anyway gonna go eat then finish up the horse power mod to use tfc mobs/blocks

then I can start vintage

[coral vault]

Also legendary tooltips is a crash fest

[exotic wraith]

okie

wtf is a legendary tooltips

[brave cairn]

makes tooltip borders look fancy

[exotic wraith]

oh

lol nah that aint necesary

[sly harbor]

Mod that basically changes how tool tips look to from the blue to a nice grey color 😅

Actuallt looks pretty nice imo

[exotic wraith]

@brave cairn the idea is that these are locked behind the creosote from the coke oven, right? i noticed most of their recipes are disabled for now but you'll still need treated wood planks for it

[brave cairn]

correct!

[exotic wraith]

aight, gonna do some funky stuff

there we go

locked behind the coke oven now

instead of just the anvil

[brave cairn]

✅

[exotic wraith]

how are you supposed to feed your coke oven wood?

i know youre supposed to use the hatch

but you cant relaly put the wood inside chests

[brave cairn]

crate

[exotic wraith]

OH

right

crates

[brave cairn]

I think you can also just put the crate right up against the hatch since they should auto-pull?

[exotic wraith]

it also auto pushes

there, picture for the questbook

[brave cairn]

lovely

wooden crates might be a lil cheaper for them 😛 but this is cool too

[exotic wraith]

yeah, wood goes on the top, creosote and charcoal from the sides

[sharp smelt]

looks nice

[brave cairn]

looks like something players can add themselves if they really want

[sharp smelt]

ok 😔

monifactory modpack has more chemical processes that can be added

[brave cairn]

that's fine, nomi is doing it's own thing

[sharp smelt]

their tech process is crazy

[brave cairn]

we aren't nomi

lol I had a horrible idea

what if we put phantoms in the nether

can't really use flying mobs on other planets with low gravity because they just fly off into space

[sharp smelt]

bruh

[exotic wraith]

thats so evil

[brave cairn]

basalt delta exclusive mob, let's go

[sharp smelt]

happy ghast wouldn't be happy

[brave cairn]

I'm gonna do it

but in exchange, tag phantom membrane as cloth

[exotic wraith]

how long is this supposed to take 😭

its taking forever :,)

yeah i dont think this works @brave cairn

been inn here for minutes

[brave cairn]

it took me like 30 secs or so

stay still

[exotic wraith]

aight

i'll wait until 2 minutes

and i'll tell you if i do actually go to the other side

it doesnt work, do i need to be in survival??

[brave cairn]

oh! yes

[exotic wraith]

aight

ahh

there we go

[exotic wraith]

also @brave cairn can regular Kaolin Clay and Graphite be found in the beneath as well?

or is it just the Klaze and the Glaze?

[brave cairn]

regular too!

kaolin is in the lush cave biome, graphite is a big tall vein

[exotic wraith]

aight! lovely

i'll make sure to write those

[exotic wraith]

lush hollow, right

[brave cairn]

ye

same sort of "look for the blood lily" thing

[exotic wraith]

aighty

good to know

[coral vault]

Me and my wife off to see the Minecraft movie in imax 4k

Don't be too jealous

[brave cairn]

of the movie or the wife?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/950504682009292800.webp?size=48

[coral vault]

The movie of course

Nothing beats the Minecraft movie

[exotic wraith]

Wild question, what part of the Blast Furnace requires Coke/Anthracite?

or does the process of making steel require it?

[brave cairn]

the latter

[exotic wraith]

Aighty

thanks

[brave cairn]

you use it instead of charcoal

(because there was so much damn coal before and it was basically useless)

[exotic wraith]

good to know, i'll be sure to update the questline

[exotic wraith]

fyi

unrelated, but the blast furnace and steel anvil part of the questline is completed

[brave cairn]

fixed locally, will push in a bit

[brave cairn]

sweeet

is this from copper to steel?

steel to LV might end up needing its own chapter 🤔

[exotic wraith]

Nah, wrought iron to Steel.

the metallurgy age encompasses the Anvil Tier system

and goes hand in hand with the Industrial Age quests

[exotic wraith]

i dont think that's necesary

the process of getting ULV/LV can be at the end of the industrial age

[brave cairn]

are these the industrial age quests?

wait no I'm stupid

there's overlap duh

this chapter handles the tfc progression

then industrial age handles the mech to steam to lv progression

[exotic wraith]

yeah

So metallurgy and industrial are like siblings

[brave cairn]

right gotcha

I kinda want to re-enable the HV steam miner since you do end up needing quite a lot of materials here

anyway first version of some of these recipes done

• spring coiling machine: makes springs lol. Might also give it some wiremill recipes?
• compressor: it combines with a basin to either compress stuff downards or create a vacuum upwards. I was thinking of using this for vacuum tubes
• vibrating table: idk a sifter?
• curving press: like a mech press except you can swap the heads. I was thinking of making it be an lv extruder, maybe I can also give it a head to do the plates?
• lathe: rods + the tfc glass lens
• laser: laser emitter but only the brick recipes

this big boy (centrifuge) deserves a big craft

some greebles

and here's the hammer... trying out using these tfc 'plated metal' blocks, which rn don't have recipes, but I was thinking of just doing similar to the andesite/brass casings where you slap a plate onto a block (in this case, smooth stone? to avoid overlaps?)

bot left is cast iron double ingot, top right is cast iron plate

[exotic wraith]

i've always found silly how conservation of mass does not apply to Black, Red and Blue Steel

here's another one

[brave cairn]

it is a little odd how you don't at least get two ingots out of it

[exotic wraith]

yeah

[brave cairn]

hm... wonder if I could change that actually

[exotic wraith]

it makes it insanely expensive

at most i'd expect you could alloy both of those metals into the molten high carb versions of them

and then you cast that, work that and get the final result

would make more sense than just having an entire ingot's worth of mass disappear

[brave cairn]

I was thinking the simpler option of just giving you two ingots lol

[exotic wraith]

that works too

lol

would definetly cut down a lot the consumption of iron

which works, considering that steel is no longer that easy to craft

since now it requires anthracite or coke

[gloomy elm]

😭😭😭

[exotic wraith]

To be fair if you just put the tokens between brackets and hit enter. If the value doesn't exist in the language database it just displays the raw tolen

Token*

So I had no idea either way :')

I'm sorry

[gloomy elm]

good ideas just against the Extruder because it’s like one of the best MV machine with the Électrolyser not being as good in TFG

[gloomy elm]

No worries

I will just open the quest file and add them

I have no idea how to do it in an automatic way

[brave cairn]

it'll only do LV extruder stuff

[gloomy elm]

Oh but it can be upgraded to MV after doesn’t it ?

[brave cairn]

no, these are vintage improvements machines, not greate, they don't have tiers

they'll only do lv recipes

[gloomy elm]

I don’t think there is many recipes at MV extruder though

I mean there are mostly bad one but well

At least it’s some automation

[brave cairn]

oh MV extruder is when it's actually good lol, it can do blocks, rods, rotors, gears, etc etc

[gloomy elm]

Yeah it’s a crazy upgrade

[brave cairn]

the LV extruder on its own basically just does tools

[gloomy elm]

I put it as a milestone of MV for people who don’t know

I was wondering if it would be possible to use GT steam for Create?

So we can push people toward LBB

Rather than the Create one

Mix up Create and Greg together

If Create does more stuff from Gt that could be a cool

People could also mix up High Pressure machine and Create with only one power generation

[brave cairn]

I don't think create actually has a steam fluid

the steam engines just use water

[gloomy elm]

The create boiler doesn’t produce steam true…

Too bad GT removed Create integration would have been easy to do a Create Generator

[brave cairn]

we got alternators from create additions

they turn SU into FE, then greg has FE to EU converters that are properly gated so people can't tierskip

[gloomy elm]

That would be difficult to have it input steam and output SU

[exotic wraith]

Nah, we can just use the create steam boiler for it

[brave cairn]

let's go

[exotic wraith]

Alright

it's done

All 4 questlines i've made

now have proper text

instead of translation keys

@brave cairn hope you have fun proof-reading all this

LOL

[brave cairn]

😵‍💫

when do you think would be a good time to get localizers involved btw

the ukranian guy was in my DMs this morning, and I've had a few russians ask when they could help too

[exotic wraith]

More shitposts too

[exotic wraith]

I'm going to write a detailed guide on how to contribute for the localization effort

[brave cairn]

wonderful

finished firmalife's two as well

now you can build something out of expensive-ass blocks!

[exotic wraith]

Industrialized wonders i guess

[brave cairn]

also brass plated blocks are real now

glass nation is thriving

[exotic wraith]

Kaolin for Glass Blowing is gone

https://tenor.com/view/glass-blower-glass-blower-cheeks-glassblower-glass-blowers-gif-4650186397273177819

[brave cairn]

spot the difference

[exotic wraith]

nah i dont think i will

LOL

[brave cairn]

one is a block of copper the other is a copper plated block

[exotic wraith]

lol

yeah you cant tell the difference

@gloomy elm you there? i have a wild question

also

Localization Contributions to TerraFirmaGreg-Modern

To contribute to Localization you'll need to know how to Contribute in general, please go to CONTRIBUTING

Language files located under minecraft/kubejs/assets/MOD_ID/lang cannot be modified, if you modify these files you WILL loose your contributions when the mod gets ready for release again.

Instead, you'll want to head towards minecraft/tools/LanguageMerger/LanguageFiles

The LanguageMerger is a Localization Tool used to Merge multiple JSON files into a single output, which is then loaded in Minecraft.

Their folder structure is split into three layers.

• MODID: The ID of the mod, ie: tfc for TerraFirmaCraft
  • LOCALE: The target Locale to write for, ie: en_us for American English, ru_ru for Russian
    • JSON Files: All the files located in the Locale folder will be merged into a single JSON file for the specified Locale.

For example, the files under LanguageFiles/tfc/en_us are the localization overrides for TerraFirmaCraft in the English Language

Adding new Localizations

1. Inside the LanguageMerger's Language Files, open the folder of the mod you want to Localize.
   • If the mod is not present, create a new folder with the mod's id's name.
2. Open the Folder for your locale.
   • If your desired locale does not exist, create it (ie: zh_cn).
3. Open the JSON file related to the type of thing you're localizing.
   • You can know the type of thing by looking at the first word of the Localization Token.
   • IE: items.json for Items, blocks.json for Blocks
   • If no JSON file exists, create it.
4. Fill the Localization Keys using JSON

Running the Merger

• To run the merger, go to minecraft/tools and run the LanguageMerger shortcut.

FAQ:

Q: I dont have a Windows Machine

A: Assuming you have DotNet installed, you can use the dotnet command to execute the main .dll that contains the LanguageMerger.

Open your Terminal and type the command dotnet LanguageMerger/bin/Debug/net8.0/LanguageMerger.dll

@brave cairn

that's the localization file

think it's good enough?

[brave cairn]

would it be worth just submitting a .exe that people could run?

[exotic wraith]

The .exe already exists

[brave cairn]

oh

[exotic wraith]

as a matter of fact it's a shortcut in the "tools" folder

Apparently .exe files run exclusively on windows, not on mac or linux (tomtomtom uses a mac for example)

but since the nature of dotNet is a JIT compiled language that runs in a VM, it should theoretically be able to run anywhere utilizing the dotNet command

(if you have the dotnet runtime ofc, which i'd be genuenly surprised if that doesnt exist for mac or linux)

[brave cairn]

plated stuff and vintage recipes all pushed, you'll want this tfg-core

[brave cairn]

ahh I see

[exotic wraith]

noice

i'm going to push my changes then open my PR

then its eepy time

[brave cairn]

noice

[brave cairn]

@pearl gale

[exotic wraith]

https://github.com/Pyritie/Modpack-Modern/pull/20

@pearl galeIf you have any questions lmk

[exotic wraith]

@brave cairn all yours

[brave cairn]

I am not proofreading all this before I accept

loool

[exotic wraith]

KEK

take your time

[hardy flax]

Arabic translation for tfg
Imagine

[brave cairn]

https://github.com/Pyritie/Modpack-Modern/pull/20/files#diff-9307322cecc0abec03d8a93ef50e76dc3bcf9228a180338e8f883a3e65e34104 what is this file for?

nebby pfp jumpscare

[exotic wraith]

uhhh

OH RIGHT

i tried so fucking hard to like

hide the fucking sus record recipe

[brave cairn]

I did hide the 'automatic_shapeless' tab since it was noise

[exotic wraith]

i just wanted to hide the sus record recipe but completely failed

kinda gave up

that file is just the remnant of it

[brave cairn]

mind if I delete the file?

[exotic wraith]

nah yeah go for it

just make sure the other json file doesnt die

[brave cairn]

what other json

[brave cairn]

oh I didn't touch that one

[exotic wraith]

anyways

gregnight, tomorrow i'll see what i can do to continue helping

[brave cairn]

gn gn

thank you again!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646085141847998484/1358242316992778473/image.png?ex=67f3213b&is=67f1cfbb&hm=71caad7696fc6800445edfdee8ce40fcf94ef24a43b83624d4c6da0897f1e3dd&

neato

downside is that the anvil for the recipe can't use a tag

[exotic wraith]

Just create three of them

Shrimple

Actually

The fact that you can't use a tag is bad lol

Theres gonna be like what

6 recipes for a copper sheet

😭

[brave cairn]

yeah 🥲

9, actually, but yeah

alright I don't think this'll be that bad

¯_(ツ)_/¯

the way I did it is every material starts at needing 10 blows, then for every higher tier anvil, it subtracts 1

so the red steel anvil only needs 5 blows to turn copper into a plate

I'll have to actually balance this in the future but hey it's a proof of concept

[exotic wraith]

Noice

[brave cairn]

jesus christ this is slow LOL

[severe matrix]

.....

...we should crank it up a little dont you think

[brave cairn]

yeah I'll have to see how much SU you can get from a horse crank

(also see if I can adjust the position where it renders the ingot so it isn't floating)

[severe matrix]

we are looking at about 30 for each hammer right now ( in the video

and even with the best anvil we are looking at 2:30 .....

[brave cairn]

at 256 rpm it's about 1 second per blow

[severe matrix]

too fast....

too slow at 128 and too fast at 256

men

[brave cairn]

nah in the video that's at 16 lol

changed the recipe, I wasn't feeling the other one. Now it uses gt frames and specifically wants hardwood logs, lol

[exotic wraith]

Hardwood my beloved

[brave cairn]

that's all submitted as well now, todos is up to date for anything you feel like grabbing tomorrow

[severe matrix]

what is that thick ingot

[coral vault]

Minecraft movie was goated

[severe matrix]

...

you mean it is goated as a comedian movie and not a minecraft representation

[coral vault]

It is goated as a comedy movie and not a Minecraft representation

Tbf, a Minecraft representation would be boring af. It would basically be a let's play

Going into it thinking it would be terrible and actually having a good time. Nihilism comes out on top again

[gloomy elm]

Im there now if you are still here

[severe matrix]

every read the mincraft book

it was a good one

it talk about one person become a steve in minecraft and had no idea about everything around and some how work around thing without knowing anything

it was great read i say

[coral vault]

@brave cairn Okay, so I think I did all of the mattock head extruder mold stuff right. Im getting an error but I think its because the colored steel on my branch is still bugged. I pushed them if you want to take a look and see if it works 👍 (also pushed a few other minor things)

[pearl gale]

I've looked through the tool folder and have some questions:
1.The shortcut that points to the .exe is through your personal profile.It should look something like this %appdata%/roaming/prism
2. There are no files and folders in which .exe should be present.
Most likely downloaded from the old repository or it is not finalized
Thank you

[brave cairn]

awesome, I'll take a look

[brave cairn]

cast iron double ingot

[brave cairn]

@coral vault merged both, all looks good, thanks so much ❤️

damn these aqueducts go deep

[brave cairn]

btw I tweaked a few of your deco and construction wand recipes -- andesite alloy is now tin alloy and iron is now wrought iron. I think this fits a bit better since cast iron is a dark brown now

what do you think of these?

[severe matrix]

those are ?

[brave cairn]

let you place down multiple blocks at once

saves time when making huge buildings

[severe matrix]

staff of building

[brave cairn]

yeah

they don't give you anything for free, just a time save

[severe matrix]

it looks like it but a little different

[brave cairn]

it's a modern version

[severe matrix]

what the last one do, the same thing like the unbreakable one ?

[exotic wraith]

Oop. Ok I'll fix both of those, I have a feeling that the actual executable file is not actually being saved in git so you'd have to compile it

[severe matrix]

great to have around tho, this mod is my fav when it comes to building

[exotic wraith]

Once I fix the issue that Met en Bouldry pointed out, I'd like it if you could tell me if you're able to download the dotNet runtime in mac

If you can, you should be able to run it's command to run the language merger yourself

[brave cairn]

yeah, it has infinite durability, the others just have bigger ranges and more durability

there we go, perfectly aligned, thankfully that was easy

this does mean the hammer itself doesn't quite align, but eh whatever

that looks a bit less stupid

ah but the finished item floats

balls

[exotic wraith]

Clearly we just change the model of the anvil

[brave cairn]

I'm seeing a load of kubejs warnings about the sealed barrel recipes for simply lights

[gloomy elm]

Will try

[pearl gale]

@exotic wraith
Generating Localization Files!
[F A T A L :] Exception has been thrown. System.IO.DirectoryNotFoundException: The "assets" folder was not found in C:\Games\Pyritie-Modpack-Modern-729dbba\Pyritie-Modpack-Modern\kubejs\assets
at LanguageMerger.MainClass.GetKJSAssetsFolder(DirectoryInfo dotMinecraftFolder) in C:\Games\Pyritie-Modpack-Modern-729dbba\Pyritie-Modpack-Modern-729dbba\tools\LanguageMerger\MainClass.cs:line 85
at LanguageMerger.MainClass.TryGetProgramArguments(ProgramArguments& programArguments) in C:\Games\Pyritie-Modpack-Modern-729dbba\Pyritie-Modpack-Modern-729dbba\tools\LanguageMerger\MainClass.cs:line 67
[Error:] Failed to get Program's Arguments, Press any key to exit...

[brave cairn]

this took way too long but that's good enough

[exotic wraith]

Oh that's... Weird

[exotic wraith]

Does that folder actually exist in your end?

Actually

There's something wrong there

I see no "minecraft" folder

Tho I don't think that would cause the error I'm seeing

[pearl gale]

PS C:\Games\PrismLauncher\instances\TerraFirmaGreg Modern\minecraft\tools\LanguageMerger> dotnet run
C:\Games\PrismLauncher\instances\TerraFirmaGreg Modern\minecraft\tools\LanguageMerger\LanguageMergerProgram.cs(108,20): warning CS8618: Non-nullable field '_modLocaleOutputFolder' must contain a non-null value when exiting constructor. Consider adding the 'required' modifier or declaring the field as nullable.
Generating Localization Files!
[Info:] Arguments have been obtained! Printing...
[Message:] .minecraft Folder Path: "C:\Games\PrismLauncher\instances\TerraFirmaGreg Modern\minecraft"
LanguageFiles Folder Path: "C:\Games\PrismLauncher\instances\TerraFirmaGreg Modern\minecraft\tools\LanguageMerger\LanguageFiles"
KJSAssets Folder Path: "C:\Games\PrismLauncher\instances\TerraFirmaGreg Modern\minecraft\kubejs\assets"
shouldPrettyPrint: "True"
shouldOverwriteFiles: "True"

[Message:] Language Merger Program has Started!

Interesting

After changing directories with minecraft0.7.19, compiled without problems..... This is of great importance after all

[exotic wraith]

i see

so indeed just changing the folder to "minecraft" works

i'm not surprised honestly

the program recursively goes up directories until it finds the minecraft directory

i see you used the dotnet command

i assume you built the project to get the .dll?

i'm gonna change how it finds the minecraft folder

it'll just recursively go up folders until it finds the pakku.json file

then it'll know the folder that has that file is the minecraft folder

what the fuck was i thinking

i think this is less idiotic

yeah that kinda works

at least its no longer doing a VERY SPECIFIC string search and instead it looks for a file that is REQUIRED for the repo to work

so

it's definetly better

[brave cairn]

well the gui's a bit broken but it's got the spirit

@exotic wraith

[16:45:07] [Thread-75/ERROR]: Exception deserializing stack "gtceu:sus_record"
java.lang.NullPointerException: Cannot invoke "dev.emi.emi.api.stack.serializer.EmiIngredientSerializer.deserialize(com.google.gson.JsonElement)" because the return value of "java.util.Map.get(Object)" is null
at dev.emi.emi.registry.EmiIngredientSerializers.deserialize(EmiIngredientSerializers.java:73) ~[emi-1.1.20+1.20.1+forge.jar%23435!/:?]
at dev.emi.emi.api.stack.serializer.EmiIngredientSerializer.getDeserialized(EmiIngredientSerializer.java:23) ~[emi-1.1.20+1.20.1+forge.jar%23435!/:?]
at dev.emi.emi.data.EmiData.lambda$init$16(EmiData.java:161) ~[emi-1.1.20+1.20.1+forge.jar%23435!/:?]
at dev.emi.emi.registry.EmiStackList.bake(EmiStackList.java:206) ~[emi-1.1.20+1.20.1+forge.jar%23435!/:?]
at dev.emi.emi.runtime.EmiReloadManager$ReloadWorker.run(EmiReloadManager.java:205) ~[emi-1.1.20+1.20.1+forge.jar%23435!/:?]
at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:833) ~[?:?]

[17:52:19] [Render thread/ERROR]: main_client_script.js#8: Error in 'JEIEvents.hideItems': ReferenceError: "hideEtchedItems" is not defined.

[exotic wraith]

i did tell you to remove that one 😭

anyways i'll remove it now

did some improvements to the language merger thing

[brave cairn]

mb

[exotic wraith]

so

[brave cairn]

first try lfg

[exotic wraith]

i just made it so you can build the LanguageMerger, and have it output to all the OS-es

and technically speaking

in linux you should just be able to use the console to execute LanguageMerger

[brave cairn]

sounds good 👍

[coral vault]

Yeah, lol. For some reason adaptive terrain doesn't work with tfc. (Or at least I couldn't get it to work) so if we don't want floating structures the legs have to be huge

[brave cairn]

true, and making it follow the terrain height would leave you with a very broken-looking aqueduct, so it makes sense

[coral vault]

Looks good. Didn't think about it, but we definitely need more uses of gems

Yeah I tried making it follow terrain, looked very ugly lol

[coral vault]

Weird. I'll look into it

[brave cairn]

@exotic wraith how do you feel about making 1:1 plates available earlier (because I'm struggling to get the roller to understand how to do chanced outputs lol)

earlier as in, requiring vacuum tubes

[exotic wraith]

FAT FUCKS LETS GO

[coral vault]

Couldn't you make it require double ingots?

[exotic wraith]

that could work

fuck now i regret pushing that lol

i should've made the bat a .sh file

so it can run anywhere

oh well

not my repo

[brave cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/monster-hunter-world-palico-surprized-surprized-cat-surprized-palico-gif-13755785049762747403

am I in danger

[exotic wraith]

nah i think you're fine

[brave cairn]

double ingots is the primitive way

[coral vault]

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

"double Ingots is the primitive way"

[brave cairn]

rolling mill is now significantly more expensive. Yes those are black steel gears

[coral vault]

Do the brass mechanisms still have the chanced output?

[exotic wraith]

thats base game create

and tbh

fuck that

i hate that feature

i guess it's ok if with an assembler you can also make precision mechanisms

with no chance of failure

[brave cairn]

the way it is right now is that yes it has the base 10% failure via deployers, but the assembler is both 100% perfect and uses fewer materials

(5 items vs 3 items)

I would not be against removing the failure rate tho

[exotic wraith]

i think the higher amount of materials spent is already a good enough incentive to make the assembler asap

[brave cairn]

fuck it, it's gone

gold spring, brass small gear, wrought iron bolt

[severe matrix]

tho i wish create could do something about the recipe check

emi doesnt do well to the recipe in the tree it only show the recipe for one cycle instead of the number of cycle it goes through

[brave cairn]

ulv mixer, which can do all the metal dusts to save on alloying

[severe matrix]

oh~

colour steel ?

[exotic wraith]

@gloomy elm @pearl gale

Letting you two know i just updated the Localization Contributing markdown file to explain how to run the LanguageMerger, i made builds that should run on Mac and Linux respectively

[brave cairn]

yeah, all these fancier ulv machines will need vacuum tubes and black steel

[exotic wraith]

now, time to take a look at the todo file

[brave cairn]

does anyone mind if I throw out tfc:brass_mechanisms and use gtceu:small_brass_gear instead

[severe matrix]

how would we craft it early then ?

[brave cairn]

on an anvil

[severe matrix]

seems fine

[gloomy elm]

Good job on the Create machines recipes

Great that it incorpores micro crafting

[brave cairn]

my goal is to introduce players to greg concepts a bit earlier without having to deal with electricity at the same time

and make LV shorter while making ULV longer

oh ffs create additions

why do you make the rolling mill's recipe times a single global value

[exotic wraith]

what?

[brave cairn]

https://github.com/mrh0/createaddition/blob/1.20.1/src/main/java/com/mrh0/createaddition/recipe/rolling/RollingMillRecipeParams.java#L31

I can't set it per-recipe because of this

[exotic wraith]

[brave cairn]

uuuuugh mixin time I guess

[exotic wraith]

thats disgusting

[brave cairn]

(I'm making the processing times match the time in the greg machines)

[exotic wraith]

well, i'll finish up the things i need to change on the tfg tips

and just push it to 0.9

cuz i'm lazy today

[brave cairn]

sounds good

[exotic wraith]

guhhhh

[brave cairn]

🤔

do you need to do a pakku fetch?

[exotic wraith]

OH

likely actually

also, does the mining helmet even work

[brave cairn]

only if you turn on dynamic lights in embeddium video settings

[exotic wraith]

oh

lol

well

i'll make sure to write that

altho, why do dynamic lights when holding torches work

and this doesnt

also @brave cairn

do you think you could send me the uhh

latest tfg you got?

[brave cairn]

try this

[brave cairn]

uhhh different system maybe, idk

dynamic entity lighting as opposed to handheld lighting

[exotic wraith]

Ohh

i see

yeah i'll make sure to write that on the quest for it

Immersive Aircraft isnt fully balanced right?

[brave cairn]

it should be?

you don't get any proper planes until aluminium

(check the recipe for the propellor)

[exotic wraith]

i see

while the other smaller ones just require any rotor

i think that works

definetly making these use the mechanical crafter woul.d be better tho

[brave cairn]

sounds gud

[exotic wraith]

@merry briar question, how does your integration work? is it just recipe changes?

[brave cairn]

it is yeah

[merry briar]

yes

[brave cairn]

which then I just tweaked a bit further

[exotic wraith]

I see

i wish we could've used actual liquid fuels instead of stuff like coal, lol

thats just me however

[brave cairn]

yeah that would've been cool, but alas

[exotic wraith]

actually

you can use lava buckets

lol

[merry briar]

yes but I think the buckets get consumed

[exotic wraith]

nah, the bucket itself doesnt

just the lava

[brave cairn]

iirc it's anything that goes in a vanilla furnace

[merry briar]

I mean you could make an addon mod that adds some fuel interface or something like that

[exotic wraith]

yeah, that or make gt fuel buckets usable in furnaces

[merry briar]

you still have to change the bucket

and so on

and its not early game compatible having buckets

[brave cairn]

sounds like effort

[merry briar]

some of these planes and airships can be made pretty soon

[brave cairn]

you could do wooden buckets, adding more fluids to them is just a tag iirc

[exotic wraith]

In an ideal world i'd make ven stuff like the airship and the hovercraft require at the very least steel

that way watercrafts arent completely invalidated when it comes to going for kaolin

[brave cairn]

feel free to change it if you want

boats are significantly faster than the airship

[merry briar]

you are way way way way faster

[exotic wraith]

hmm

i guess the current ones are just fine then

idk

i'll just make some sort of quest tree

[brave cairn]

I did notice the integration throws out a whole bunch of warnings

[exotic wraith]

actually, creosote buckets can be used as furnace fuel

[brave cairn]

oh neat

I wonder if there's a tag to only allow specific fuels

[exotic wraith]

while creosote buckets work it doesnt accept a wooden bucket of the stuff

so creosote as fuel is post red/blu steel

[brave cairn]

lemme dinner then I can knock out the rest of these VI recipes - just laser engraver and centrifuge left I think

then I can start actually designing the whole progression ones

[exotic wraith]

holy shit lmao

Part of me wants to add that transportation for grounded vehicles now

so you can travel the skies, oceans and ground in style

[brave cairn]

sure but let's do it later

ad astra does add its own ground vehicle

(and it takes fluids!)

[exotic wraith]

might tweak some of these recipes

which, bleh

idk why its in its own mod if all it does is recipes but i'm not supposed to complain about it

[brave cairn]

you can

(psst, while victor isn't looking -- let's move all the recipes into tfg directly and drop his mod (which he said he planned to do anyway but ran out of time for))

[exotic wraith]

OH

ok then

i'll do that

got some ideas, gonna also make the scaffolding not require bamboo

[severe matrix]

what we use for schaffold any string fiber ?

[severe matrix]

stick or stick bundle then

[exotic wraith]

no

Long Stick

• Burlap/cloth

You'll first create the Scaffolding Frame

the thing you stay on top of

Scaffolding itself is the same recipe as regular MC, just Long Sticks instead of Bamboo, and the frame instead of the piece of string

Scaffolding Frame is also used in the recipe of the Quadcopter

[coral vault]

should i make new textures for them?

[exotic wraith]

ehhhh

idk

up to you

If you can make something better than this then be my guest

tiny

[coral vault]

ill put it on the back log :)

[exotic wraith]

new recipes for things

burlap is supposed to be cloth

rotors is any rotor

[brave cairn]

neato

btw, when making new recipes, I've been using the #forge:type/material syntax more often, because it's less prone to breaking

[coral vault]

so the simplylight barrel issue is because the white lamp doesnt have "white" in the name but all the other colors do. Thanks for making it hard simplylight

[brave cairn]

lol, ffs

[coral vault]

Alright. Fixed and pushed

If statements my beloved

[exotic wraith]

@brave cairn wrought iron casings are going to be changed to be dark steel, right?

well, black steel

[brave cairn]

not sure yet how to actually implement it but yes the HP steam machines will all require a little black steel

[exotic wraith]

i see

i'm mostly just making the aircraft engine

and i was like

"We dont want to gate all of them behind black steel... do we?"

if not i can just make the basic engine consume metal casings instead

[brave cairn]

ok, I'll leave the casings alone, and just use the black steel for the machines themselves

[exotic wraith]

wym?

[brave cairn]

this is the one you want, right?

[exotic wraith]

that's the one that the uhhhh, iatfg recipe for the engine uses

and since those are also used for the HP steam stuff

again, i can just make mine use the actual Metla Casings from create instead

top is new recipe, bottom is old recipe

[brave cairn]

right, okay

gotcha

bricks on an airplane are a little odd anyway lol

[exotic wraith]

lel

thbere we go

that's better

[brave cairn]

fixed

[brave cairn]

neato

[coral vault]

im guessing you arent supposed to make these out of water right?

[spiral lintel]

it's just the slower recipe that takes even more energy

[coral vault]

seems weird that you can either use advanced steel or water

[exotic wraith]

I stan programmer art

Hope you enjoy making these

my idea is that main components such as hulls and the balloon are craftable

later on the bigger ones will require mechanical crafters

or assemblers

so those can just levrage the fact that they can have a stupid amount of item inputs

tbh we could make the airship balloon a block for the fun of it

but for now its an item with a texture that looks like shit

(old vs new airship for the second one)

recipe idea for the cargo airship

2 new rotors and engines because well, they appear in the model

• crates instead of chests

(we can retexture the chests to look like wooden crates)

[gloomy elm]

Nope it’s native GT

The gain of time is immense though

And with the arc furnace recipe in TFG it’s never been that cheap

[brave cairn]

sounds a bit overkill for something I don't think will be that used

[exotic wraith]

the retexturing part? yeah probably

the crafting hopefully not lol

It says its fuel hungry

obviously because it has more engines

i just noticed create seats arent craftable

why

theyre neat

anyways, ignoring tool cont this is how expensive the quadrocopter is

using the least expensive metal for rotors, which tbh, its copper

considering that shit is very abundant

and this is the airship's cost

i think this is fine

[coral vault]

here is what I have so far for building gadgets. thoughts?

starts at EV and then IV for copy/pasting

i guess cut/paste should also be IV

[exotic wraith]

are these regular recipes you can do in crafting tables?

i think for the stuff that even requires EV or even HV it should be an assembler exlcusive maybe

specifically for the building gadgets

[coral vault]

that makes sense

[brave cairn]

I could've sworn they were, since they have dye recipes 🤔

[exotic wraith]

yeah they dont, lol

oinly dye recipes

no crafting the white seat

[brave cairn]

I have no idea what any of these do lmao but they look cool! doesn't the ultraviolet thing need luv stuff though?

[exotic wraith]

building gadgets is basically construction wand on steroids

[brave cairn]

I know that much, but not the specifc it- oh!

btw, these 'field emitters' are things greg provides as sort of general "you need a big blob of stuff to make these" items, if you ever wanna use em

[coral vault]

okay hows this?

[coral vault]

as far as I can tell it is IV

[brave cairn]

europium requires fusion

what does the block on the bottom do? the 6th item

[coral vault]

ah, good call

[coral vault]

basically lets you save schematics for the copy/paste gadget

[brave cairn]

ah

this could be funny to use lol

or maybe one of these?

[coral vault]

ill use the clipboard instead of the blacklight

doesnt need to be too expensive, only used for the one gadget basically

[brave cairn]

fair enough yeah!

[exotic wraith]

When do you unlock aluminum?

LV, right?

[worthy tusk]

end of lv

[brave cairn]

yeah it's the main MV material, so as soon as you get the EBF which is one of two endgoals in LV

[exotic wraith]

ehh, i guess gating the propeller to it sounds good

anyways, gyrodine crafting

if youre wondering why it uses a block of wrought iron

i have no fucking idea what that's supposed to be

[brave cairn]

an ingot's worth maybe

[exotic wraith]

eh, double ingot

[brave cairn]

also if possible I'd try to keep the recipes to use 21 mech crafters max, the same as the crushing wheels

[exotic wraith]

any particular reaosn why?

just curious

[brave cairn]

makes people less likely to go "ugh forget it" if they already made 21 and see they have to make more

[exotic wraith]

sounds like a them problem tbh

[brave cairn]

they do be a little more expensive now

[exotic wraith]

hm

bleh

i'll limit myself to 32, getting these big boys ought to be expensive

[brave cairn]

these are cheaper now so people can automate digging a bit sooner

[exotic wraith]

plus 32 is the stack size for them lol

[brave cairn]

those'll be one of the cool new unlocks of steel age

[exotic wraith]

also, damn this is so fucking big

biplane

[merry briar]

https://modrinth.com/mod/automobility
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/create-kart

[exotic wraith]

https://media.forgecdn.net/attachments/1026/808/2024-11-27-13-50-47-online-video-cutter.gif

this looks pretty fucking neat

https://media.forgecdn.net/attachments/1026/807/2024-11-27-13-50-47-online-video-cutter.gif

i really like the idea of having a steam powered kart

i have used automobility before as well

[brave cairn]

it can wait until after 0.9 pls

[exotic wraith]

yes

i will dw

[brave cairn]

goodgood

[exotic wraith]

i dont wanna scopecreep

[brave cairn]

less create stuff to worry about when we do the big create 6 swap

[exotic wraith]

Waghship

https://tenor.com/view/orks-ork-waaaagh-slugga-boy-dawn-of-war-gif-15592891

[exotic wraith]

@brave cairn i guess the assembler doesnt really have a limit of items right

[brave cairn]

it has 9 slots

[merry briar]

create's assembler?

[brave cairn]

I hope you aren't making these planes stupid expensive compared to like, jetpacks lol

[exotic wraith]

uhhh

*i had no idea we have jetpacks

huh

[brave cairn]

I said that's what I'd balanced the planes around!

[exotic wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/daniel-damn-ar-one-enel-gif-26279142

well

time to scrap my recipes LMAO

[brave cairn]

anyway: the lv combustible one is dogshit
the mv electric one is horrible horizontally but ok vertically, you can combine it with the hang glider. Still kinda slowish
the hv electric one is better, still not much faster than sprinting I think
the advanced hv one (nanosuit chestplate) is very fast though, almost creative flight

try em out and compare their speeds to the planes

anyway, starts of steam progression since I was tired of making vintage improvements recipes

[exotic wraith]

ough, how do i load the combustible one

[brave cairn]

1. get your trusty HP steam machines of a boiler and compressor minimum (since your millstone can shred the wood for you)
   1a) also an alloy smelter unless you love glass blowing
2. start setting up the start of a deployer line