🚀EN - 1.20 Modpack Contribution Megathread

[brave cairn]

yeah, or move some around and so on

space will give a lot of options!

[brave cairn]

today I learned that the "piglin_loved" tag does not mean "stuff piglins will trade for"

it's basically hardcoded to be a gold ingot (and them not attacking people is basically hardcoded to be gold armor)

[coral vault]

mojang moment

were you able to change their trade pool?

[brave cairn]

yeah that's just a loot table

[coral vault]

thats good at least

[brave cairn]

lol it gets worse -- it would be easy to override it if it was just mojang, but forge overrides this as well but in an even more awkward way that idk how to override

[coral vault]

thanks forge 👍

[brave cairn]

forget this, we're going back to gold ingots only lol

theres a mod out there that makes this easy but it's for fabric only

(I am guessing this is part of the reason why lmao)

[brave cairn]

learning about the new gt hazard system

it uh, can fuck you over with some permanent debuffs until you make "paracetamol" which is a huge stupid mess of recipes only available in LV

I'm gonna see if I can make your primitive pills cure some of these

[gloomy elm]

Apparently it's not really fully fledged yet

[brave cairn]

yeah, I can even see a comment saying they want to add more specific meds

lemme see if it's possible to make our own items cure these 🤔

[brave cairn]

yeah not having much luck

I'll just let gt handle this balancing

it's at least way less annoying than it was in 0.7.19 lol

btw looking at the pills more closely... 30 mins of regeneration sounds insanely OP lol

[coral vault]

Yeah I've been meaning to tweak those numbers. Were mainly there for testing

15-20min might be better for the tier 2 pills since they are still only level 1 effects

Level 1 regen takes about 5 seconds to heal 1 heart. So it's not very strong imo

[brave cairn]

ah

https://modrinth.com/mod/greate/ anyway someone linked this and now I am cooking

[coral vault]

Honestly that looks great if you just disable everything after LV tier

That way create can actually be limited in functionality

Or you can allow things to go faster as long as they still can't process advanced materials

[brave cairn]

yeah, + shift some of the other tiers "down"

this would actually help a few of the progression things I was having trouble with, plus introduces people to greg tiers earlier lol

[coral vault]

Soon, no mods will be safe from greg

[brave cairn]

0.7.19's outdated version of gregtech has its kinetic machines go up to EV, that feels like an ok cutoff point for here too 🤔

[coral vault]

Seems good to me

HV isn't bad either

[brave cairn]

yeah

[spiral lintel]

Gonna use the billions of decorative plants tfc add? And multiple plants making the same cures because of climate limiting the flora

[brave cairn]

redeix is already way ahead of ya

[coral vault]

😎

I hope this is an early April fools joke

[blazing swan]

early? you forget about NZ and AU, its already 10am 1st here

its perfectly on time lol

[coral vault]

We can only hope 😬 last thing we need is more ai slop mods and slop structure mods. Let alone a combination of the two

[brave cairn]

• changed blue steel diving suit to just cap your body temp at 28 instead of being "fully insulated" like before (the nano/quarktech kits do the fully insulated thing instead)
• reverted piglin loved tag to avoid confusion, fixed field guide to say gold ingots only
• added hazards to realgar, cobaltite, galena, chromite... but only the dusts. Idk how to add it to the raw ores, and I'm unsure if even adding it to the ores is a good idea

oh also added the construction wand mod, if anyone wants to make recipes for it - it's like, 6 items?

https://github.com/Pyritie/Modpack-Modern/blob/0.9/TODO.md updated too

[coral vault]

What about building gadgets instead?

[gloomy elm]

that's an elegant way to have Create power limited

[gloomy elm]

Building Gadgets could be seen as op I guess?

or the best tools are lock way further in progression

[coral vault]

Need more late game items anyways

[brave cairn]

yeah they'd be cool for later, let's just go with this for now tho

we've kinda been heading into scope creep territory lol

honestly what we could do, is wrap up the rest of what we have already, and start playtests for the nether at least?

give something people to chew on

[gloomy elm]

I'm on the quest tonight

hope to finish them shouldn't be too long

[brave cairn]

awesome

@exotic wraith would you be able to submit your stuff like the chalk recipes and so on? I can do the PR if you're busy

[coral vault]

Wouldn't hurt to have building wands and building gadgets together. I can work on implementing the wands into the pack better.

[brave cairn]

sure thing, the wands should be v easy, it's only 6 items

[coral vault]

I'll clean up my current build and submit a pull request. Added decorative vases + loot vases. Some structures. Random fixes. And I'll probably add my simply lights Integration from the main branch

[brave cairn]

sick

yeah we can keep adding to the structures over time!

[coral vault]

Btw I thought of a weird solution to the loot problem.

You know how we can't add random loot to some things but we can make predetermined loot? What if we used a jigsaw block in place of the loot container and just had a pool of like 30 predetermined loot?

[brave cairn]

🤔 sounds a bit silly but that could work!

[coral vault]

Would limit the structure size but its fine for smaller structures

[gloomy elm]

We can't use the research function of the ore prospector ?

[brave cairn]

research function?

[gloomy elm]

When I open the prospector I was able to type the name of a ore to see only this one on the scanner

but I can't type anything

[brave cairn]

oh search

it works for me last I tried

[gloomy elm]

oh yeah mb

hmm weird

holy cow

I just realized the new integration to WAILA or whatever is this version

to know if the block is supported or not

[brave cairn]

how so?

[gloomy elm]

how do you modify the guide book? There is an entry about the kinetic mixer but it was remove in latest version of Gregtech

[brave cairn]

kubejs/assets/tfc/patchouli_books

[coral vault]

Isn't there a limit to 7 jigsaw pieces?

So using a jigsaw to create a loot block would use up one of the pieces from the limit

[exotic wraith]

oop

how much have we advanced? i kinda stopped devving TFG and instead have been playing vidya instead

[brave cairn]

https://github.com/Pyritie/Modpack-Modern/blob/0.9/TODO.md

we got the OK for the early game create stuff, and I was sent this today which will help a lot with some of its progression https://modrinth.com/mod/greate/

[exotic wraith]

ohhh

[brave cairn]

some of the prim quests will change because of this so it'd be cool if you could submit what you've got so far!

[exotic wraith]

looks neato

sure, but it'd be tomorrow

currently i'm closing down my pc

[brave cairn]

sure no rush! just wanted to see how things were going

I need a bit of a break from tfg dev as well lol

otherwise things are going well!

[gloomy elm]

I'm getting a lot of crashes while making quests

[brave cairn]

what kind of crashes?

[gloomy elm]

Some rendering crashes but I was unable to understand the crash log

I deleted a quest and remade it and it works better now

I think later on when you will integrated space I may redo the quest from fresh

Especially if we modify stuff

[brave cairn]

yeah, the HV+ quests will need some modifications then, but most of them will still be relevant

btw, you said that you're able to see all the items for computer craft and advanced peripherals after you did something?

[gloomy elm]

Hmmm did I say that ?

[brave cairn]

maybe it was someone else 🤔

[brave cairn]

tidied up the todos page

also fixed a few of the field guide entries that were pointing at removed tfc recipes

[exotic wraith]

Alright

i have NO idea how much i actually did the uhhh

chalk stuff

but

@brave cairn sure, i'll open a PR for my primitive quest rework

i think that itself contains the chalk stuff as well

i dont recall where i left that impl, oh well

[brave cairn]

ping me when it's ready

[exotic wraith]

Question @brave cairn

whats this about?

i can guess the kapok

but why the other trees?

did you add more tapping recipes?

[severe matrix]

you can tap it but nothing come out ?

[exotic wraith]

idk, thats why i'm askin them

[brave cairn]

yep I added a new tapping thing to some cold conifer trees to get conifer rosin, a wax substitute

to a) add a reason to travel north, and b) give people another route instead of relying on bee rng

you can also turn it into sticky resin but not latex. Still need the tropical trees for that

[severe matrix]

how is making the tab compatible with greg drum

[brave cairn]

it uses tfc barrels now

[severe matrix]

i guess it is better than wooden bucket but how is it in terms of automation

how well does greg go with wooden barrel

[brave cairn]

same as before, create pump out of it

[gloomy elm]

How hard do you think it would be to implement a condition to recipe

So it needs a certain temperature ?

Would be like a biome condition but with more flexibility in TFC with temperature

[brave cairn]

I had a quick look through the tfc docs and I don't see anything out of the box, why?

[gloomy elm]

Well it’s to force you to travel

In the same idea as space

For example making rocket fuel would need you to go a certain temperature and make a set up over there or the recipe wouldn’t work

[exotic wraith]

i like this

thanks for the clarification

[gloomy elm]

Like a distillation tower recipe that would only work at a certain temperature

@exotic wraith we have a small issue

the new quests you made have icons larger than every others icons :p

We have to modify one part

I could modify the Gregtech's one though

because I'm not finished with them yet

And I feel the GT ones are actually really small

I'm confuse both are size 1

or default

[exotic wraith]

https://github.com/Pyritie/Modpack-Modern/pull/14 @brave cairn

here you go

[gloomy elm]

there is something i'm not understanding

[exotic wraith]

my work hours have started so i wont have much availa bility

[gloomy elm]

no worries I will try to understand what's happening

[exotic wraith]

don't touch the sizes in my quest lines. most of those are indeed size 1

its just that theyre considerably more spaced out

i hate the crampy feeling the GT ones have

[gloomy elm]

that would scale?$

[exotic wraith]

wdym?

[gloomy elm]

oh yeah you are right

if I look at both screenshots

the standard icons have the same size

[exotic wraith]

I use a combination of Sizes and Shapes to indicate the types of quests

Gears are major start-end points

[gloomy elm]

I need to copy yours then

[exotic wraith]

hearts are optional stuff

[exotic wraith]

tbh you can stylize the greg quests as you see fit

[gloomy elm]

I think it looks better if the whole quest book has the same code/shape

I will simply copy yours and give more space and bigger icons for milestones

[exotic wraith]

here are my guidelines then, or at least what i used during the development.

1. Constant localization tokens
2. Size 4 Gears for Start and End points of questlines. (ie: metallurgy age's copper anvil being the start, and THE BUCKET being the end) NO ICON is bigger than 4.
3. Hearts are for Optional Quests, usually completionists or ABSURD quests (such as 1024x garlic bread)
4. You can use big size squares for mid-points or "mildly important" milestones

there might be other patterns that you can extrapolate from the metallurgy/stoneage questlines

[gloomy elm]

sounds good thanks

[exotic wraith]

and with that

i need to work

cy'all

[gloomy elm]

good day!

[brave cairn]

cheers

[gloomy elm]

And I found the culprit most GT icons are smaller than the standard size of 1 -_-

Im redoing it all fuck it

This seems like a mistake? Cast iron into wrought iron

[uneven reef]

Default Greg recipe

[gloomy elm]

Not the case for the ingot

so we should fix it for tfc?

[uneven reef]

It does feel wrong imo, especially with Create, bulk blasting costs no power and is significantly faster than any alternatives until much later

[coral vault]

it is wrong

[brave cairn]

I dunno, I like the idea of progressing beyond the bloomery

and bloomery and arc furnace is a huge gap, and you use wrought iron for a ton of things

[brave cairn]

honestly I'd be more in favour of just removing bulk blasting

[severe matrix]

!

[brave cairn]

single block furnace too slow? steam multi furnace

[severe matrix]

!!!

[gloomy elm]

I feel it's better to give more tools to automate wrought iron

than skip it

[uneven reef]

Or make another bloomery or 2 if it's too slow

Costs bronze too

[brave cairn]

yeah I do like the nugget recipe as a middle ground between hammering blooms and the arc furnace

[gloomy elm]

You should use Steam hammer if you want to automate wrought iron

I'm really not a fan it feels you just skip new tools

Like you unlock bronze age

[brave cairn]

yeah but how do you automate the bloomery

it's so much slower than the blast furnace even

[gloomy elm]

We can think about that with expanding Create for example

[brave cairn]

wait wait I know

[gloomy elm]

Always better to create new ways

[brave cairn]

custom multiblock

[gloomy elm]

GT steam custom multiblock?

[brave cairn]

it's bloomery shaped

[gloomy elm]

sounds like a very good idea to me

[brave cairn]

but costs your bloomery item and just gives you blooms directly

the advantage here is you can dump a load of iron in and not have to wait 20 mins or whatever

[gloomy elm]

doesn't seem too complicated to implement too

okay so I'm removing the nugget I was on it already

[brave cairn]

cool, I'll add this to the to-do list

[gloomy elm]

That's exactly the cool things i'm thinking about to amplify GT and TFC

[coral vault]

You can just use the arc furnace tho

[gloomy elm]

That creates a step between the bloomery and the arc furnace

I think that's cool

especially because to make the recipe works with the arc furnace you need air collector/centrifuge and arc furnace

so if we got a better bloomery players could push to later to get the arc furnace

[brave cairn]

yeah, and with the create changes, the steam age will be a bit longer too

[coral vault]

Seems like a good idea

[brave cairn]

@gloomy elm approved your PR, nebby I'll look at yours at home since there's more stuff to it

I forgor about your dye stuff lol

[brave cairn]

should the steam bloomery still require charcoal?

[gloomy elm]

I guess but it can be less because there is the need for steam?

or same ratio and the cost in steam is due because it's automatic

yeah I feel it's better to keep the same cost

[iron python]

same cost but faster i'd say

[gloomy elm]

or parallel

which would end up the same

but intensify using it with more ressources

[spiral lintel]

is there anything for coke?

feels odd that coke is unnecessary for steel production at all stages of progression

[worthy tusk]

anything what for coke? they'res recipes to extract more stuff from it

[brave cairn]

I'm making the tfc blast furnace need coke

[spiral lintel]

it's just useless besides being a niche fuel for the forge

[brave cairn]

for steam bloomery:
1 cast ingot + 1 charcoal = 1 bloom
1 hematite/pyrite/etc + 1 charcoal = 1 bloom
does it need to accept anything else?

I should be able to set up the multiblock fast since I've done them before

I guess I could let it accept coke as well? in case you overproduce it

[gloomy elm]

2 cast ingot + 1 coke = 1 Bloom?

Hematite/pyrite would need to be normal right?

[gloomy elm]

I would be curious to learn how you do multiblock with kubejs

I will look at that later on

Is there an easier way to impletement a strutuce or do you really need to put your letter in the good order manually?

[brave cairn]

I kinda want to make it only accept dust/ingots lol, but if you wanna do the raw ores as well then that's fine

[brave cairn]

look at startup scripts/greg/machines.js I think it is? you can see how I did the terrariums

if you wanna try, go for it! there's a block tag called #tfc:bloomery_insulation I think? that you might find useful

then the gtceu documentation has a page on custom structures

imo I'd just make the structure look like the existing bloomery except you can swap some of the stone for your hatches

and you put the "controller" where the bloomery doors go

maybe make it so the fluid input has to go on the bottom layer and the item ones above?

[gloomy elm]

no sounds good to me

[gloomy elm]

Okay I can try to have a go at it

If I don't succeed by tonight I will let you do the magic lol

[brave cairn]

alrighty, lmk if you need any help! let's get some of your other stuff merged too

smaller more frequent PRs means it's easier to keep everything merged

[gloomy elm]

I'm finishing LV quests because finally I went back and redid everything lol

[brave cairn]

cool!

[gloomy elm]

Kept most of their text though because I have to say it's quite interesting

[brave cairn]

yeah I'm sure we'll have to go over them again later with all the create changes

I've got 6 days off coming up so I hope I can get a lot done then

[coral vault]

I have to work Saturday 🙃

[gloomy elm]

Every descriptions should be updated

I added the mixer as an important milestone because of colored steel

[brave cairn]

nice nice

[gloomy elm]

there is some cleaning to do

I'm thinking about removing all the machines for ores processing on the right side

At least we have more space now to expand it later on as needed

[exotic wraith]

ohh

this looks really nice

also been having the fuel to work again as of late

[brave cairn]

nice nice

just fixing up a few of the dye recipes, added the ones for comforts

now just seeing how to replace the existing tfc/firma recipes so you only get 144 instead of 1000

[iron python]

i'd leave 1 quest telling people they can process to get more stuff, maybe about some ores that you'd want to process

maybe lead them to the EMI ore processing tab

[gloomy elm]

Good idea will do that

[brave cairn]

I plan on introducing people to ore processing as early as copper age

[gloomy elm]

I copied the chapter on ore processing from Community Pack but we could make a custom one for the different ways at different ages

[brave cairn]

so the lv machines will be good to tell people "here's how to actually get byproducts, you'll need some of them" but also yeah a lot are unnecessary like the magnetic separator

though I don't mind it at least getting a mention

it's sort of like the fishing machine

it's kinda pointless but the knowledge is there I guess?

(yeah I know the fishing machine is good for wetware later)

[gloomy elm]

It has some use to be fair later on

Well yeah

And it’s a good source of food even early game

[brave cairn]

never needed the magnetic separator, all it does is get extra iron and gold

and I've never met anyone who was short on gold in tfg lol

[worthy tusk]

I want more use from that thing

[gloomy elm]

Could be interesting to make up some stuffs

I still think there is an avenue to make new processing lines needed for AE2 🤷‍♂️

[brave cairn]

yeah, someone here had some suggestions that on other planets we can explore more exotic kinds of ore processing

[gloomy elm]

Oh that’s a nice idea

[worthy tusk]

I have some ideas. I would like to do a significant ore processing project in late mat

May

[gloomy elm]

It can be heavy duty because the large version exists for the magnetic separator

[worthy tusk]

But rn my masters in cs is more important

[iron python]

some electrolyzer recipes could be moved to the magnetic separator, ones involving magnetic materials

[gloomy elm]

Computer science ?

[exotic wraith]

for the dye stuff?

did you read my PR?

pretty sure i left the code snippet that made it so you dont

oh wait

uh

idk if my code made it so tfc recipes made 100mb of dye or 144mb

[brave cairn]

100 but I changed it

[brave cairn]

whatcha thinking of? 👀

[uneven reef]

It has a single good use case with naquadah

[brave cairn]

oh is naq magnetic?

[uneven reef]

Guess so

[gloomy elm]

@brave cairn when you try to do a testing for a multiblock a simple /reload is enough?

[worthy tusk]

I just have a broad idea of things I'd like to cover rn but I can try to Write out some of it if you want to hear some theoretical ideas

[brave cairn]

not if it's a startup script, you'll want to do /kubejs reload startup_scripts and then relog? or just restart your game

[worthy tusk]

Fast I'll be back in like ten minutes

[brave cairn]

I'm interested in any vague ideas you might have!

@exotic wraith are all these tiny/small/normal dust sizes needed for the chalks? I'm getting a bunch of log spam from create about how 10 ingredients for the tiny dusts is too much for the mixer

[worthy tusk]

ok so. i'm going to start here:
most of the mercury and the sodium persulfate recipes are not worth doing at all, due to the very small buff to the output.
i propose to buff those recipes, and add new ones with some other liquids (pending) to have a couple of (probably higher tier) ways to get more resources out of ores you're already going out of your way to mine a lot of, given that there are certain resources you end up needing but generally aren't in large supply.

[brave cairn]

check that they aren't already buffed in newer gtceu

[worthy tusk]

sure i don't plan to start on this until i graduate and hopefully a month and a half is enough?

i highly doubt it would suddenly get buffed now, after being the same for a decade though.

it will be an excuse to examine the magnetic separator as well.

i also wouldn't mind a slightly more complicated chain for rock dust processing...

[brave cairn]

I'd like to eventually get rid of stone dust stuff

it's just kinda boring

but yeah fair enough

[worthy tusk]

well... there really needs to be a way to get thousands and thousands of certain resources, and right now ore mining just doesn't cut it

specifically aluminum and iron

[brave cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/space-tim-curry-gif-7935778

I like the idea of putting bedrock mining places on other planets because then you have to deal with the logistics of sending it home

[worthy tusk]

it needs to be doable en masse whatever it is

[brave cairn]

because then you have to extract everything needed to send that parcel home, however we do it

instead of just plopping down like 3 magic cubes in your base

🤔 I can probably add a few "useless" ones like quartzite, salt, asbestos, etc to earth as well

[worthy tusk]

quartzite would be moderately useful

you can make nether quartz with it in the netherarium

[worthy tusk]

3 magic cubes thing is solvable from a design standpoint by making the production line more interesting.

[brave cairn]

I mean the terrariums will be eventually deprecated as we finish up space more lol

[worthy tusk]

oh. so it'll be actually useless.

[brave cairn]

maybe zeolite? it's got a little aluminium in it without being as op as mirabilite

[brave cairn]

oxygen I guess 😛

[worthy tusk]

what do you mean?

you talking rock dust?

from the brief foray into wiki i've seen most aluminum is in the form of alumina which is basically 2 bauxite connected by an oxygen atom

[brave cairn]

I'm talking removing rock dust centrifuging, and adding bedrock ore mines (they have to be ores)

then different planets get better and better bedrock ore veins

idk, we'll see

[worthy tusk]

yeah but you don't get bbedrock miners that early. you need to be able to get that much iron some time in mv, and that much aluminum some time between mid hv and early ev

[brave cairn]

I did nerf diorite hard so now it'll just give a small trickle instead of a geyser

[brave cairn]

it's really not hard, iron and lapis veins are huge

I was thinking of adding a multiblock MV electrolyser to make it easier to process it all

[worthy tusk]

heck if we just remove ilmenite from bauxite veins and rutile form bauxite electrolysis and then add like a couple chem bath recipes to bauxite, 1 for more aluminum (i mean like 2 or 3 per operation) and 1 for rutile (tier appropriate liquid) i'd be happier

[brave cairn]

just so you can shove a whole lot of input buses in it

[worthy tusk]

oooohhhhhhh what would be wrong with moving some of the multiblcok machines' tiers around? just using the actual one in mv

well. i'd say hv.

and sifter

[brave cairn]

the easier solution would be to just move that vein to the moon :p so if you want tons of alum, you use something like lapis instead, or the many many many other minerals that contain it

[worthy tusk]

i guess it's an ABS thing isn't it

[brave cairn]

correct

[worthy tusk]

no, that's harder not easier...

[brave cairn]

I would be in favour of a few earlier ones though, with their gimmick being that they can't take parallel hatches

[worthy tusk]

yeah sure that makes enough sense

maybe even limit them to 1 energy hatch so their gimmick is really the fact that they use buses...?

and then they become pretty good in ev when you get 4a hatches

actually wait. doesn't the electrolysis machine use hsla steel? that one's pretty low tier innit

i did mention the kaolin recipe i wanted to do right?

5 kaolin dust (that's from maceration) -> electrolyze into 1 bauxite 2 silicon dioxide 2 water

[brave cairn]

I think the magnet blocks need IV circuits or something

so like, technically doable in HV?

[worthy tusk]

that's what i'm proopsing changing yeah

i guess it's fine

[brave cairn]

tbh for the mv one I was just thinking of a bunch of mv machine casings + some blocks of magnetic steel/neodymium

[worthy tusk]

really it's the controller block taking straight up iv electrolyzer that's hard keeping it to iv

[brave cairn]

yeah that too

[worthy tusk]

ah hsla steel takes titanium dust

so really a late hv thing

[brave cairn]

yeah

not worth

[worthy tusk]

i kinda want to add some ore chemical bathing with bromine given its properties

[brave cairn]

tbh I wouldn't mind if ore processing is kept somewhat boring on earth, then we can do more crazy stuff on other planets where you'll want small setups

like maybe venus just has pools of bromine sitting around, or some other bromine compound that you can extract and use to get tons of uh, zirconium or whatever you need for quantum circuits

[worthy tusk]

shrug i just saw that bromine was in gregicality rocketry and has some very interesting properties

[brave cairn]

another hardly used element is iodine

[worthy tusk]

i'm just looking for ways to extend normal resources anyway, once you have some surplis to improve your additional mining efforts

[brave cairn]

I think right now you only get it from brine stuff, and then only use it for paracetamol?

[worthy tusk]

is iodine in gt? let me see...

[brave cairn]

is that 0.9?

[worthy tusk]

nope

i don't have a setup for doing 0.9 at this time

[worthy tusk]

iodine is a bit of a weird one

since it's a solid, that sort of increases its effective surface area so it's nowhere near as reactive as the other halides

or is it "halogens" idk the plural form whatever

[brave cairn]

there's also potassium iodide (solid) and hydrogen iodide (gas)

[worthy tusk]

anyway i'm thinking specifically about ore doubling as my area of interest here

[brave cairn]

(and making new chemicals is very easy)

[worthy tusk]

oh, you have more tooltips than i do

is that a 0.9 thing or a setting thing

[brave cairn]

0.9 thing

new greg is way more stable as far as I can tell

[worthy tusk]

nice. how's the progress on all that?

[brave cairn]

mostly done, as far as I can tell? the main thing is that it actually added its own recipes for lots of vanilla items so there's a bunch of duplicate crafting recipes now

I've tried to remove as many as I could

[worthy tusk]

i see

[brave cairn]

still occasionally finding a few though...

[worthy tusk]

sounds like you need to outsource the bugfixing on that, release a beta or just do it live and wait for bug reports lol

[brave cairn]

yeah we'll do a playtest

[exotic wraith]

lol

i had no idea there was a limit for a create mixer

but

yeah its prolly unecesary

[brave cairn]

[gloomy elm]

Damn I think I put myself into something way out of my league 😂

The Gtceu Modern doc doesn’t explain right away how to do steam multi

[worthy tusk]

what?

oh, like the steam grinder? what are you up to

[brave cairn]

I saw there's separate blocks for steam item input and output hatches, and a block to insert steam? at least in 0.9 anyway

[worthy tusk]

yes

well, just the steam input hatch

and then it uses ulv input and output buses

or did they bring that back in 0.9...

[gloomy elm]

Yeah there is different input/output

[brave cairn]

https://github.com/ThePansmith/steamadditions/blob/master/src/main/java/com/pansmith/steamadditions/common/data/SAMachines.java try this

[gloomy elm]

They brought it back

Is it Kubejs compatible ?

[brave cairn]

this is done in java but the syntax should be pretty similar 🤔

[gloomy elm]

I will try

[brave cairn]

I guess we can fuck around and find out lol

[gloomy elm]

Someone was saying on Gtceu discord that you had to do it differently for Parallel on kubejs

I will try a bit

At least flesh the rest of the multiblock

worst case scenario it can be put in the core?

[brave cairn]

parallel?

[gloomy elm]

yeah

[brave cairn]

what do you mean

[gloomy elm]

#1333104408522657844 message

[brave cairn]

@worthy tusk btw I was thinking of venus being the "acid" planet, so bromine stuff would be a great fit for there

[gloomy elm]

giving it the parallel ability like the others steam multiblock

[worthy tusk]

ok

i wasn't going to nor do i think you should limit the chemical bath recipes i had in mind to a particular planet

[brave cairn]

ah good find

[brave cairn]

of course not, but if you put a chemical in an easier to access place, that incentivises it - you could always ship home drums of bromine if you really wanted, for example

[worthy tusk]

none of the properties that were interesting about bromine had anything to do with specific gravity - and also venus has pretty much the same gravity as earth.

yes, sure

heck add bromine to the like... fluid drilling whatevers

[brave cairn]

on earth or venus? lol

[worthy tusk]

venus

[brave cairn]

right yeah

[worthy tusk]

earth should really just be oil

what planet were you thinking of putting more chromite veins on?

moon perhaps?

[brave cairn]

yeah, moon and mars

[worthy tusk]

did you have ideas for fluid drilling on the other planets?

[brave cairn]

not yet

[worthy tusk]

i'd love a source of fluorine.

[brave cairn]

the moon should involve helium-3, though drilling that straight up is too OP

[worthy tusk]

heck just drilling helium would be great

[brave cairn]

yeah, putting fluorite somewhere would be perfect - making a new material, saying what elements it's composed of, then saying it's an ore and a gem type? all super easy to do with greg's api - and it adds all the right recipes for it too

[worthy tusk]

oh is fluorite not in gt? i thought i saw it

[brave cairn]

nah it's a rocketry thing

[worthy tusk]

did... did you take out rocketry?

[brave cairn]

yes because it's shit lol

[worthy tusk]

ok, got it

[gloomy elm]

everyone is taking rocketry out 😦

[brave cairn]

we're using ad astra because it's actually stable

rocketry would be cool if it was finished! and didn't crash all the time!

[gloomy elm]

that's too bad they had great idea

[worthy tusk]

i don't know where i would put fluorite. it should be somewhere like... mid ev maybe

maybe early iv

that way you're pretty much at the point of getting autocrafting and lots of channels on your ae2 system and want more LCRs

and bastnasite starts to become annoying

[gloomy elm]

I'm not succeeding

[brave cairn]

sounds good to me - IV is venus + mercury

[gloomy elm]

how do I share the code?

[worthy tusk]

well, depending on how you flavor venus since it's the acid planet maybe it's abundant in halogen elements!

[brave cairn]

paste it here between ``` tags

```js
like this
```

the js adds the right syntax highlighting

[gloomy elm]

event.create('steam_bloomery', 'multiblock')
.machine((holder) => new $SteamMulti(holder, 8))
.rotationState(RotationState.NON_Y_AXIS)
.recipeType('steam_bloomery')
.recipeModifier((machine, recipe) => $SteamMulti.recipeModifier(machine, recipe), true)
.appearanceBlock(CASING_BRONZE_BRICKS)
.pattern(definition => FactoryBlockPattern.start()
.aisle("XXX", "XXX", " X ")
.aisle("XXX", "X#X", "XXX")
.aisle("XXX", "XSX", " X ")
.where('S', Predicates.controller(blocks(definition.getBlock())))
.where('#', Predicates.air())
.where(' ', Predicates.any())
.where('X', blocks(CASING_BRONZE_BRICKS.get()).setMinGlobalLimited(6)
        .or(Predicates.abilities(PartAbility.STEAM_IMPORT_ITEMS).setPreviewCount(1))
        .or(Predicates.abilities(PartAbility.STEAM).setExactLimit(1))
        .or(Predicates.abilities(PartAbility.STEAM_EXPORT_ITEMS).setPreviewCount(1)))
.build())
.workableCasingRenderer(GTCEu.id("block/casings/solid/machine_casing_bronze_plated_bricks"),

GTCEu.id("block/machines/centrifuge"), false)

thanks

[brave cairn]

which part are you having problems with?

[gloomy elm]

const $SteamMulti = Java.loadClass('com.gregtechceu.gtceu.common.machine.multiblock.steam.SteamParallelMultiblockMachine');

it crashes during load

[brave cairn]

could be!

[brave cairn]

which part crashes?

[gloomy elm]

I don't get anything from the crash log too complicated for me

[brave cairn]

lol

[gloomy elm]

ahah

[brave cairn]

unfortunately the crash long is where all the useful stuff is :p

[gloomy elm]

this one goes to main_start_up script

?

[brave cairn]

no, that goes in your same file, above your other code

[brave cairn]

missing pattern while creating multiblock steam_bloomery
there you go

[gloomy elm]

so the creation of the multiblock fucked up?

[brave cairn]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gloomy elm]

uhuh

[brave cairn]

look at my terrariums if you need a reference

[gloomy elm]

I didn't make the shapeInfo

I thought that was only for EMI

but would it be possible it provokes a crash?

[brave cairn]

the shapeinfo should be optional 🤔

[worthy tusk]

i want red steel pipes that can handle cryogenics and blue steel pipes that can handle some hot stuff lol

but they'd logically need to be worse than stainless so idk if it's worth it

[gloomy elm]

or adding something that makes them mandatory before stainless

though that would mean mv

[worthy tusk]

no i woulodn't do that

honestly colored steel being just as good as aluminum would be absolutely fine

[brave cairn]

that's easy enough tbh

[worthy tusk]

or maybe just the blue steel one is just alu but slight heat buff and the red steel one has lower capacity but is warranted because you dont' need chrome for cryo

you won't really be using red steel in this scenario until you're actually some time in ev but that's fine

[brave cairn]

and black steel?

[worthy tusk]

item pipe

if you have to, but i believfe it's already a wire

i guess it could be a nice 2 stacks/sec small pie or something like that but idk

well no, because cobalt is already that and it's so abundant in this pack

honestly i'd nerf cobalt and put black steel in its place

[brave cairn]

eh it's fine

[worthy tusk]

shrug then i wouldn't worry about giving black steel a pipe

[gloomy elm]

Why the Greenhouse doesn't have a shapeinfo and still it's in EMI?

Oh it works also for mine

I'm lost lol

[brave cairn]

there u go

same flow rate as alum

blue has same temp tolerance as tungsten, red has same temp tolerance as PE (lol) but can do cryo

[brave cairn]

try just making a normal multiblock without any of the steam stuff first

[worthy tusk]

cool

[brave cairn]

or try just copying the existing one you found in the gt discord

[gloomy elm]

yeah that's what I'm trying right noz

[gloomy elm]

didn't work 😦

I think he uses custom textures or something

Well I'm getting the block

[brave cairn]

if you don't get it working by tomorrow evening then I can take a look then 👍

[gloomy elm]

But I can't get the rendering on EMI

[brave cairn]

btw, I got latest and I don't see nebby's quests, do I have to make a new world to see them?

[gloomy elm]

shouldn't need

are they hidden because they were in a chapter?

[brave cairn]

all the chapters look the same too

[gloomy elm]

But I think I modified some stuff after importing

quests. are his new chapters

[gloomy elm]

I forgot to add .build lol

[brave cairn]

yeah I don't see that 🤔 I'll make a new world and try

[gloomy elm]

maybe verify if there is a group in the snbt file

[worthy tusk]

@brave cairn

WELL NOW

[brave cairn]

lol

[gloomy elm]

Wouldn’t it be possible to increase the tier of the centrifuging for dust so it can be abuse until a better solution is found ?

I mean if the recipe is fixed at IV for example

[brave cairn]

yeah we can change it to whatever we want

I'd like to see how my diorite change goes at the moment because that was the biggest offender

[gloomy elm]

Im missing something to make the .shapeinfo

It doesn’t appear

Im making my coffee and gonna try a bit more before passing it to you lol

[brave cairn]

iirc all the shapeinfo does, is let you provide a default shape for the multiblock preview instead of the one it generates, since it might look silly

[gloomy elm]

so even without the shapeinfo it should generate a multiblock preview even if a funky one

[brave cairn]

correct

I did one for the terrariums because the default looked very silly lol

like all the magma and glowstone in a corner

[gloomy elm]

Then the issue isn't my .shapeinfo but the multiblock itself hmmmm

the weird thing is I don't have any errors

the controler is there

but not the multi

I gonna try to replace the steam bus with the basic one and see what's happening

[brave cairn]

good idea

[gloomy elm]

this is getting worst even copying your doesn't work lol

and for an unknown reason your recipes have disapeared for the terrariums lol

All the machine recipes from GT have disapeared actually

I need to start fresh lol

[brave cairn]

uh oh

do you have any kjs errors? sometimes I get 6 about material load order, and then all the recipes are broken

[gloomy elm]

I had none lol

and now I deleted the kubejs to redownload it

and I'm crashing when making a world

[brave cairn]

wtf

[gloomy elm]

Well I'm merging quest and I'll do a fresh download lol

I don't know what I did but I guess I broke my instance

Do you think using an old version of Forge could also be an issue?

Fresh install and I’m still crashing 🫨

Omg what did I do

Well for a reason I'm not sure I'm able to understand I can't launch the 0.9 anymore

even while using a fresh instal from github

[brave cairn]

what's your log say?

a fresh download + rerun of pakku, then you'll need to copy over the tfg-core jar again

[gloomy elm]

redoing it again with Prismlauncher you may never know

I deleted everything don't have the crashreport 😦

[brave cairn]

logs/latest.log

always check that first

99% of problems are written in the log

[gloomy elm]

will do

launching again we'll see

still crashing

something about "at net.minecraft.client.gui.screens.Screen.m_96579_(Screen.java:437)"

I don't get it it was working fine before

I deleted everything redownloaded everything from github and pakku

change the launcher

even reboot my computer

other minecraft instances are working fine

Description: mouseClicked event handler

Apparently some people had the same issue after having a corrupted saved (which happened to me) but they were able to make it work by removing the save

[brave cairn]

h

post your log then

[gloomy elm]

trying with a different version of Java

[brave cairn]

Errors in element tfg:earth/geode/barite:
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Failed to parse tfg:worldgen/configured_feature/earth/geode/barite.json

oh my bad

this is my fault for trying to write something during my lunch break 😂

just delete the geodes in that folder and the placed feature folder, except the amethyst ones, and it should work I think

I didn't think it would cause problems unless the features were actually used...

[gloomy elm]

testing

I removed all the geodes files exept the amethyst one

[brave cairn]

check that part of the log files again if it still doesn't work

[gloomy elm]

``js

Errors in element minecraft:worldgen/configured_feature:
java.lang.IllegalStateException: Unbound values in registry ResourceKey[minecraft:root / minecraft:worldgen/configured_feature]: [tfg:earth/geode/barite, tfg:earth/geode/calcite, tfg:earth/geode/gypsum, tfg:earth/geode/opal, tfg:earth/geode/pyrite, tfg:earth/geode/quartzite]
''

seems like i didn't remove everything

[brave cairn]

ok lemme just delete those files for you then

[gloomy elm]

oh

I get it

I missed the placed folder

trying again

okay it worked lol

thanks for your help

[brave cairn]

I made a push to get rid of them for now, sorry about that

[gloomy elm]

nah no worries

[brave cairn]

glad that was the only problem at least

[gloomy elm]

I saw the error in the logfile but I was like "well nothing changed before so it can't be that"

[brave cairn]

but yeah, unfortunately knowing how to read logs is a useful thing to learn because that's where so many problems get dumped

[gloomy elm]

definitely but with my poor skills :p

[brave cairn]

if there's a bunch of stack traces in a row you want to look at the first one, usually?

[gloomy elm]

it's kinda funny I corrupted my save which gave me a crash while loading world and when redownloading I had this new mistake

I thought both were the same

[gloomy elm]

I guess I will remember that

[brave cairn]

though sometimes that first one will have an "inner" exception with the real problem

[brave cairn]

ah bad timing, how'd you corrupt your save?

[gloomy elm]

good question

When I realized that I broke all the GT recipes

I downloaded a clean instal of Kubejs

the save didn't like it

[brave cairn]

huh

[gloomy elm]

well time to get back to breaking everything while trying to make my Steam Bloomery lol

[brave cairn]

I'll be home in like 4h

[gloomy elm]

I'm really confuse I added a really simple multiblock I have no crash everything seems fine but I see in the log that it doesn't register and EMI doesn't load all the GT recipes again

I can still see all the others multiblocks

Am I missing a step or something?

recipes are still working they just don't show up on EMI

[brave cairn]

if one part of gt crashes I've noticed that makes the rest of it not load either

[gloomy elm]

so there is some kind of issue with the way I create the multiblock

Should I first define the recipe type

launch the game

then quit and add the new multiblock?

[severe matrix]

right will the greg crate on create contraption still crash game or will that be fix in 0.9

and the problem with change in paste when you attach contration to water wheel directly that seems to also caused crashed

[gloomy elm]

there is a tape to move Crate from GT now

[brave cairn]

try making the new multiblock use an existing recipe type instead? if that's the issue

[brave cairn]

I haven't tried yet

[gloomy elm]

I will try that

I tried while removing the multiblock and only having the recipe type right noz

Okay it works

so it's the multibloc

I'm definitely messing something

I will try to use the recipe type on your multiblock and see what happens

[brave cairn]

🤔

[gloomy elm]

I'm having difficulty making an electric multiblock lol

well it will be knowledge for later I guess

who knows maybe I will be able to make it para steam easily after

(don't think so)

[brave cairn]

lemme finish eating then I'll fix the geodes and you can send me what you've got so far and I can give it a shot

[gloomy elm]

using my recipe type on your multiblock doesn't break anything

So I'm definitely making a mistake when I do my multiblock

[brave cairn]

good to test that!

[gloomy elm]

damn I forgot

//#region Steam Bloomery
event.create('steam_bloomery', 'multiblock')
.rotationState(RotationState.NON_Y_AXIS)
.recipeType('steam_bloomery')
.appearanceBlock(GTBlocks.CASING_TITANIUM_STABLE)
.pattern(definition => FactoryBlockPattern.start()
    .aisle("CCC", "CCC", " C ")
    .aisle("CCC", "C#C", "C#C")
    .aisle("CCC", "CXC", " C ")
    .where('X', Predicates.controller(Predicates.blocks(definition.get())))
    .where('#', Predicates.air())
    .where(' ', Predicates.any())
    .where('C', Predicates.blocks(GTBlocks.CASING_TITANIUM_STABLE).get()).setMinGlobalLimited(4)
        .or(Predicates.autoAbilities(definition.getRecipeTypes()))
    .build()
)
.workableCasingRenderer(
    "gtceu:block/casings/solid/machine_casing_stable_titanium",
    "gtceu:block/machines/macerator", false
)
//#endregion

there is something wrong here

come on I can find it

hmmm I may have find it

the .or wasn't included within the .where

for C

fingers crossed

nope

[gloomy elm]

for god sake finally

[brave cairn]

yooooo nice! what was the problem?

[gloomy elm]

I didn't include the .setGloballimited within the ()

I'm making the structure this time and will try again if I don't fuck up

If I can't convert it to steam multiblock I will give you the hand

[brave cairn]

ooh, classic parenthesis issues

[gloomy elm]

yup

[brave cairn]

I think I ran into something similar when I was starting mine haha

[gloomy elm]

it took me so much time to understand i feel bad lol

well atleast now I know

[severe matrix]

weird setup

[gloomy elm]

ahah that was just a test

@brave cairn sorry for the bother I was wondering how do you get the path for texture easily

without having to go to the github or go through the mod

[brave cairn]

github lol

🥲

I cloned gtceu locally just so I could find stuff in it easier

[gloomy elm]

Lol

I mean progress is being made

Need to find the texture

I wonder if I can use a tag

[brave cairn]

https://github.com/GregTechCEu/GregTech-Modern/tree/1.20.1/src/main/resources/assets/gtceu/textures/block/machines

pick whatever you think looks most appropriate I guess

[gloomy elm]

thanks I'm doing a try with TFC texture I have no idea if it's working

[brave cairn]

oh to make it look like the tfc bloomery?

you might need to copy the tfc bloomery texture and put it in a folder, and rename the texture to "overlay_front.png" like all the others here 🤔

[gloomy elm]

I guess because the game just crashed lol

        .appearanceBlock(Blocks.getBlock('tfc:rock/bricks/granite'))

that doesn't work I guess?

oh the BlockS shouldn't be here

nah it doesn't like it anyway

.appearanceBlock has to be a GTBlocks. ?

[brave cairn]

yeah

appearanceBlock is like, the casing block - so in this case you'll want the same one as the other steam machines probably?

the texture in .workableCasingRenderer is the textures that's put on top of that

[gloomy elm]

So I need to do a copy of the bloomery from TFC and put it in the assets from kubejs

and name it as an overlay?

[brave cairn]

I believe so - I've not tried it before, but "mimicking what's already there" has done well for me so far!

[gloomy elm]

let's try

I gonna add a maintenance hatch for esthetic reason lol

[brave cairn]

do the other steam machines have one? I'd be consistent

I know the LBB does

[gloomy elm]

I don't think they do to be fair

only the LBB

I will check

hmm I may have an idea

so there is no maintenant hatch on the other Steam multiblock so either we put a maintenance/muffler hatch

a steel casing as that would make sense that we need steel before getting this multiblock

or bronze casing and the controler will be the gated one

I think using steel is good because there is no low pressure machine and only high pressure machine

then I guess we could put any brick stones that is compatible with #bloomery

[brave cairn]

idk, I kinda want to make this available right after you get steel, so making all the steel casings is gonna be more pricey

and all the other steam multis are bronze

also wow the steam input/outputs are pricey lol

[gloomy elm]

It's so strong compared to the tfc bloomery

I feel it's okay

And I'm saying only one steel casing in the middle to connect the input/output

that's still cheap

[brave cairn]

are the positions of the other components not customizable? they are in others

[gloomy elm]

I can but I thought it looked cool like that

[brave cairn]

oh, do we need fireboxes?

the other bronze multis that involve heat have fireboxes 🤔

[gloomy elm]

there is space to put firebox for sure

[brave cairn]

that'd be cool imo

but.. steel fireboxes might be too pricey here

this thing's gonna be super expensive lol

[gloomy elm]

I could imagine it that way

yeah but it's automatic

and it does parallel 8

that's such an upgrade from the tfc bloomery

if it's not expansive people will just skip the bloomery from tfc as fast as possible

that would be sad

[brave cairn]

wait it does parallel?

[gloomy elm]

yeah

i mean

[brave cairn]

oh

[gloomy elm]

it should

[brave cairn]

are we sure that's a good idea?

[gloomy elm]

We can play with the recipe time

[brave cairn]

I was more thinking of this just being an automatic one-at-a-time bloomery

and more automatable with the hatches

[gloomy elm]

The bloomery doesn't do 1 by 1 though

[brave cairn]

mmmm true

[gloomy elm]

so it kinda make sense

I'm testing with the updated look

[brave cairn]

what abouttttt

[gloomy elm]

Well it all depends

One is harder than the other :p

I'm always on the side of making TFC longer so people can't rush to GT

But idk

I mean changing the multiblock later won't be an issue I would advocate to go the harder road first and if during testing it appears it's just a fucking bother it will be time to nerf it

but I feel like making the arc furnace can be potentially far from early LV so this multiblock could be so strong that you don't switch until MV Arc furnace

but for it to be too strong it needs to be hard to unlock

[brave cairn]

did you see the recipes for the steam inputs/outputs? they're already pretty damn expensive aha, especially because at this point you've still got the 2 ingots = 1 plate recipe

[gloomy elm]

Let's me see how much the multiblock would cost

[brave cairn]

now there will be ways to at least get the forge hammer's 3:2, but still

[gloomy elm]

Is this one being removed?

that's between 64 and 106 steel ingots

well

we can use only one firebox casing on the bottom

[brave cairn]

no, but reworked

[gloomy elm]

looks good though

[brave cairn]

I'm still a bronze enjoyer personally 😛 but ya we'll see

[gloomy elm]

Could be easy to switch to bronze

[brave cairn]

if the whole multiblock is bronze, the ins/outs switch their textures to look bronze too btw

[gloomy elm]

The hatches and buses would still need steel so

[gloomy elm]

That's nice at least it would keep the harmony with the high pressure machines

if the casing and the firebox are in bronze that would still be around a stack of steel

that feels correct to me

Parallel is cool it gives you a big incentive to send them 8 by 8

it's the same time

what do you think about making the multiblock able to craft Refined directly and not the raw ones?

[brave cairn]

let's go with that 👍

[brave cairn]

hmmmmmm good question

honestly if anything I'd be up for just making the forge hammers go faster lol

[gloomy elm]

Feel you

or

Parallel Steam Forge Hammer 😂

That doesn't work 😦

I don't know how to push a .png and create new file for the path

[brave cairn]

that's fine, I can do that part quick

[gloomy elm]

You know how to fix it so bronze looks like steel?

I can push the multiblock and the recipe type and send you the file

I put this one in kubejs/assets but there gonna be DS.store in the zip because it's from mac

never understood why apple put that

[exotic wraith]

fyi

the idea is that the mechanical age and steam age should be merged into one

which is why its there right after the metallurgy age

speaking of the modpack

@brave cairn how much have you fixed of my merge issues?

i might hop back today

[brave cairn]

I think all of them

[brave cairn]

I'm still not fully finished with my create rework 🤔 lately I was thinking more like, at the start of steel age you unlock all the fancier andesite casing machines like the mech saw/drill/harvester etc, then there will be some recipes that use create to do similar kinds of "this machine makes plates cheaper" recipes. Then the start of steam will be behind black steel?

idea is that you start with mechanical, then move to mechanical + a small amount of steam, then gradually go to the bigger mechanical machines that demand a whole steam engine to work

https://modrinth.com/mod/greate this should help a lot with tiering

[exotic wraith]

ohh

i see

yeah i recall you sent that mod here

[brave cairn]

ye ye

[exotic wraith]

Well, i'll look what to do now

maybe i could start writing the quests for the primtive/metallurgy/tfg_tips

[gloomy elm]

@brave cairn I'm still confuse on how to make the bronze casings look like steel

[gloomy elm]

they don't want to swap even though i said steel everywhere

[brave cairn]

no no I meant the other way around, to make the steel parts look like bronze casings

[gloomy elm]

Oooh okay

Well it's better than this mash up

I will do that

[brave cairn]

that would be a huge help, thank you 🙏

[gloomy elm]

do we want it to be any bricks from #bloomery?

or just some of them

I feel like it's all of the stones that are compatible lol

[brave cairn]

yeah anything in that bloomery insulation tag

so ideally people can just take their existing bloomery, swap the doors, add a few hatches, and it all just works

[gloomy elm]

well time to add 20 bricks lol

[brave cairn]

do tags not work?

[gloomy elm]

I can't use the #tag obviously?

Well time to try I guess

[brave cairn]

lol, 'bloomery insulation' is an entire page and a bit of blocks

[gloomy elm]

I know lol

[brave cairn]

I sure hope the tag works

[gloomy elm]

So am I

if not I will only put the bricks

(Predicates.blocks('#tfc:bloomery_insulation')))

doesn't seem to work 😦

would you type it differently?

[exotic wraith]

We might want someone to proofread that, considering that yknow

my english is not 100% flawless

[gloomy elm]

not gonna lie I used chatgpt often to reformulate

[brave cairn]

haha I'm a good proofreader

I have a reputation at work for being good at catching typos but not blatant bad algorithms when doing code reviews

[gloomy elm]

okay this is so weird i put the #tag and now it accepts air for the bricks

[brave cairn]

check the log, I imagine it's saying "idk what that is so I'm using air as a backup"

[gloomy elm]

the logs don't update when I put a block -_-

[severe matrix]

ah code when one little symbol is a mistake for the whole code

[exotic wraith]

my game crashes when i try to create a new world

[gloomy elm]

oh you have the same issue i had earlier

there is some kubejs files about geodes

that are crashing the game at world creation

[gloomy elm]

here

[exotic wraith]

oh

its 2 files, right?

[gloomy elm]

yeah

[exotic wraith]

the barite and the amethist

[gloomy elm]

no it's like 7 files

at two different places

[exotic wraith]

i mean

there was just 1 file

[gloomy elm]

everything except the amethyst

I guess?

[exotic wraith]

in tfg/worldgen/configured_feathre/earth/geode

[gloomy elm]

I had more than that

[exotic wraith]

odd

i did create a new branch from 0.9

so

maybe its something else

i'll send the crash log

[gloomy elm]

placed_feature folder and configured_feature folder and I had to remove everything except the amethyst

[gloomy elm]

oh it's a new one

[exotic wraith]

@brave cairn i think i'm having issues unrelated to what tomtomtom faced

i'm gonna look into getting my ore index tool into the 0.9 branch

i want to have another tool so we can manage the damn language files

because i hate having just a singular monolithic json file

[brave cairn]

oh hold on I fixed those gimme a sec

[brave cairn]

you're gonna love what I've been doing to the ore vein files 😂

[exotic wraith]

whatdidyoudo

[brave cairn]

@gloomy elm so I guess we either add all the tfc bricks (as in, just the normal bricks), or we could be evil and have them make fire bricks/coke bricks

[exotic wraith]

actually, where was my tooling? i dont remember where that csproj was

[brave cairn]

basically, there's a lot more stuff in it - from "we need to check like 8 blocks to replace with deepslate ores" to "now there's 3 different indicators but at least there's no more multiple sized buds any more" to "also let's add raw ore blocks into the mix"

[brave cairn]

space2 branch

[exotic wraith]

ay, yeah i see it there now

surprised we dont have a solution file

[gloomy elm]

Im a big fan of being evil

Though adding all the bricks seems also fine

[exotic wraith]

@brave cairn you mind if i cherrypick the C# projects into 0.9

[brave cairn]

go 4 it

oh yeah lemme submit my shit so you can run the game

[exotic wraith]

okie

[brave cairn]

done

[exotic wraith]

aight

just pushed the TFGCSharp solution

[brave cairn]

is that a separate solution or is all the kjs stuff going in it too

[gloomy elm]

If Space begins at HV/EV I can stop the revamping of the quest at this point?

[brave cairn]

space isn't gonna be for a while, so yes please continue if you can

[gloomy elm]

okay no worries

[brave cairn]

(and when we get to it, we're not gonna change the gt progression that much)

oh you will likely need to rebuild tfg-core as well, or use this

[gloomy elm]

you can miss match the bricks if you want

but who would want to do that lol

[brave cairn]

thanks for the idea ❤️

[gloomy elm]

no worries and I'm quite happy to have learn how to do it

last thing before finishing it

do we want bronze firebox on the full layer bottom or not?

could look a bit better

[brave cairn]

I was thinking of a + shape, with you also being able to swap them with the steam input and item input?

so 3 casings + one of the others each

[gloomy elm]

like that?

[exotic wraith]

TFGCSharp contains MarsBiome and the OresToFieldGuide projects

i'll add a "LanguageMerger" project

[gloomy elm]

because the TFC Bloomery has this weird shape

lol

I guess we could do that also

[brave cairn]

perfect, thank you

[brave cairn]

I guess yeah, fireboxes and inputs and controller all on the same level

multiblocks are supposed to be pretty customizable!

[gloomy elm]

I can allow some customization but this one doesn't allow for much

I will make firebox and busses swappable

[brave cairn]

I'm still a fan of this shape haha

fireboxes and inputs on bottom, then controller + bricks, then output + bricks

lets people put the ins and outs on whatever sides they want

[gloomy elm]

should be the opposite I guess

because in the TFC bloomery we throw the input from the top

and grab it from the bottom

[brave cairn]

lol, that's true

[gloomy elm]

Okay I gonna do that then

[brave cairn]

hm how about, steam input and 4 fireboxes on bottom, top is all bricks and the item ins/outs

then you can do the preview with them in the order you want! if you'd like

[gloomy elm]

sounds good let me try that

with the bottom and the top being interchangeable ?

[exotic wraith]

So, main idea on this program.

You have hte "LanguageFiles" folder, its split into the mod to override tokens and then a folder. the folder itself is the locale you're aiming to write for. You can add as many JSON files to these folders.

running the program goes thru each folder, splits them into mod, then into locale

then merges the individual json files into one single json file, the "output". and puts it in the assets/modid/lang folder

with the output file's name as the locale

[brave cairn]

you mean the item ins/outs? sure, but I more meant the ability to put any of them anywhere

[gloomy elm]

Input/Output anywhere on the top and firebox and steam input anywhere on the bottom

I went that way

[brave cairn]

basically this list https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1331744604701069393/1357130841490325555/Capture_decran_2025-04-02_a_19.13.20.png?ex=67ef1616&is=67edc496&hm=4f5159551809d9c2bcfd5bfbc8fcfa3d1af2c2782a0d10b2a9c89b7a7cab8925& but the list also has the item ins/outs

yes ok

[gloomy elm]

oh even the mid layer

sure

[brave cairn]

sure why not

[brave cairn]

ah so basically the lang files can be a lot more split up and organized? I love it

[exotic wraith]

yes, thats the basic idea

i plan on having a README file at the root of each mod's language folder

[brave cairn]

awesome! I hated how big some of them were getting lol

[exotic wraith]

that says

"Hey, DO NOT modify these, your progress will be LOST"

"look into the folder with the program"

[brave cairn]

tbh you can probably put it at the root of /kubejs/assets/

[exotic wraith]

maybe

i dont want people to just

not notice it

[brave cairn]

like README_IF_TRANSLATING.txt

I mean if they send a PR for it then we can just point them in the right direction, and their file will be saved on github in case they overwrite it anyway

[exotic wraith]

yeah

Files located at "assets/x/lang" (where x is the modid youre looking to translate), which are the localization files, are AUTO GENERATED by an external tool in the repo ("minecraft/tools/LanguageMerger")
This means that any changes done to the files in "assets/x/lang" WILL BE OVERWRITTEN the next time the tool is ran!

If you wish to properly write localization for an already supported/translated mod:
1. Go to "minecraft/tools/LanguageMerger/LanguageFiles"
2. Go to the folder of your mod of choice.
3. Open the Localization folder for your language, these are the actual locales supported by the mod (ie: en_us)
    * If youre looking to add a new language, create a new folder with your chosen locale
4. Edit, or add a new JSON file with your language values.```

ythink this is good enough?

[gloomy elm]

well I feel like I'm understanding so that's a good test if I can do it