no, the dust is exclusive to the pickaxe table for some reason
#๐EN - 1.20 Modpack Contribution Megathread
severe matrix
that is true
coral vault
Hmm ๐ค shouldn't really matter if you change hammers. The biggest contention would be what version of ore would be dropped
severe matrix
so double the use of durability for a trade of more yield that is not a bad idea
brave cairn
the raw ones of course
(part of this is me on copium for struggling to get hammers to work lol)
coral vault
the raw ones of course
Like poor, rich, etc?
brave cairn
same as machine, they just automate it
brave cairn
Like poor, rich, etc?
yeah ofc
speaking of which, I think our generated textures for ores are missing the secondary color layer ๐ค
coral vault
Yeah that would probably be fine. Would the mining hammer also be the same?
brave cairn
same as pickaxe yeah
I'm gonna see a bit more if there's a way to get the hammer part working with kube
severe matrix
so the only part is just strip from mining crush ore only
brave cairn
ok ok wait I had another idea
what if we moved create earlier
but only parts of it
I'm thinking like: anything that requires a casing is steam exclusive (and make crushing wheel steam exclusive too)
so then early on you can use the mill to crush all your ores for you!
worthy tusk
i found out that there's a recipe clash with glass. what's the function called for the gt cutter
cutting_machine?
there is somethign wrong with this code but at a glance i'm not seeing it
event.remove({id:'gtceu:cutter/cut_glass_block_to_plate_water'})
event.recipes.gtceu.cutter('gtceu:cutter/cut_glass_block_to_plate_water')
.itemInputs('#forge:glass')
.circuit(1)
.itemOutput('gtceu:glass_plate')
.inputFluids(Fluid.of('minecraft:water', 15))
.duration(320)
.EUt(30)
it's itemOutputs
brave cairn
lol yeah the error messages aren't great
worthy tusk
ok it's fixed now i can automate glass panes in ae2 without worrying about what the output is gonna be
brave cairn
@low gate hello! we are making good progress. The nether is 95% finished, and we are mostly done with what's possible to move TFG-Core into KJS.
I'm currently working on the ore mining loot tables, but I had an idea.
What if we removed hammers giving crushed ore? It constantly confuses new players because they're so used to the pickaxe. In return, raw ores would melt into a bit more metal, and I would also like to make Create's Mill available earlier to crush them (into the iron age). What do you think?
gloomy elm
Am I the only one that was using GT hammer to mine?
Because they do 3x3
Or maybe I missed a change on 0.7
brave cairn
the general consensus was a regular hammer pre steam, then the aoe hammer after
just because crushed is worth so many more mB than raw, and you couldn't convert raw to crushed pre-steam
brave cairn
https://modrinth.com/mod/create-horse-power reposting here
gloomy elm
Is there a difference when using " or ' with kubejs?
brave cairn
not that I can tell
proven ginkgo
#1350505568347099288 For #2 I don't really get how mining the blocks from top to bottom would prevent cave-ins, as just general block breaking triggers cave-ins
brave cairn
give yourself one of the big aoe drills and then dig straight down
that shouldn't cause cave ins right? but it does and god is it loud lmao
proven ginkgo
But I think the noise are just part of "fake" cave-ins, and those just trigger the sound.
coral vault
But I think the noise are just part of "fake" cave-ins, and those just trigger t...
Yeah, sometimes fake cave in sounds occur. But mining down does cause cave ins. But if there's no blocks above your head then there's no problem
If there's a cave below your feet then it will collapse if it isn't supported by supports, or hardened rock.
I've been thinking about adding some end game support options
You can technically make something like titanium supports that protect a whole chunk from collapsing
brave cairn
I mean endgame you're using machines which don't cause collapses
hell, even by LV you can stop manual mining
coral vault
But the builders
brave cairn
anyway my theory is that changing that iterateAoE function to return a list sorted by Y level will solve it ๐ค
#1186025944222269580 message
coral vault
anyway my theory is that changing that iterateAoE function to return a list sort...
Unless I'm remembering wrong. I think it plays the sound even if it's a 3x3x1 facing down. So even if they are all at the same y-level it will still play.
proven ginkgo
The face of the block mined doesn't have an effect on cave-ins. This is the code that triggers them:
public static void onBlockBroken(BlockEvent.BreakEvent event)
{
// Trigger a collapse
final LevelAccessor levelAccess = event.getLevel();
final BlockPos pos = event.getPos();
final BlockState state = levelAccess.getBlockState(pos);
if (Helpers.isBlock(state, TFCTags.Blocks.CAN_TRIGGER_COLLAPSE) && levelAccess instanceof Level level)
{
CollapseRecipe.tryTriggerCollapse(level, pos);
return;
}
I'll be home in a bit, then I can make a repro for you
spiral lintel
Yeah, sometimes fake cave in sounds occur. But mining down does cause cave ins. ...
it seems aoe miners inherently cause collapses even with no roof because it's breaking blocks that are considered unsupported when it mines more than a layer down
brave cairn
do you still think the mod is worth including?
gloomy elm
This is just the update of ExtentedAE
It's already in the pack
For AdvancedAE I'm still not sure
brave cairn
oh!
gloomy elm
I'm curious because the 4M Mega Storage Component from MEGA is made with UHV
brave cairn
I don't know what half these materials are bruh I never made it into luv haha
gloomy elm
and the 16M Mega isn't implemented I wonder if they planned to push Gregtech further than UHV
brave cairn
but I like the cleanroom and assline requirement. Make those players suffer
brave cairn
and the 16M Mega isn't implemented I wonder if they planned to push Gregtech fur...
could make a recipe for it if you wanted
I haven't heard of any higher tier plans ๐ค
kinda against it though imo
I'd rather have fewer deeper tiers than more shallower ones
gloomy elm
I don't know what half these materials are bruh I never made it into luv haha
Ahah well it's nothing too bad Iridium, Machine Casing, Circuit and Incoloy it's an alloy you made in the Alloy Blast Smelter and I saw they used it for other items in AE2
brave cairn
ah fair enough!
all I know about higher stuff is that naq alloys and duranium are involved lol
and tritanium and other funny fusion metals that I don't know the names of
brave cairn
ah nice
gloomy elm
I could use Europium because it's LuV
but damn it's an expensive one
I thought it was cool to add some research
gloomy elm
yeah it's basically a Multiblock of Molecular Assembler and Pattern Provider
it's QoL
I kept the fact that they wanted us to put an Assembly Line in a Cleanroom
Which I think is quite funny
brave cairn
lol my cleanroom has space for an assline in it already
worthy tusk
i build an individual cleanroom for each multiblock
gloomy elm
I finished everything to get the Matrix Multiblock so it's basically gated after Fusion Reactor Mk1 and Research at 4 CWU/t (which is the minimum)
brave cairn
making sure lavaproof hide is in fact lavaproof
brave cairn
I finished everything to get the Matrix Multiblock so it's basically gated after...
cool! lemme know when you make a PR, if everything's done? unless you had more to add
gloomy elm
Just the Oversized Interface and I will be good
I just have a question
Interface can be converted into cover interface natively
But at the beginning of the kubejs there is an exception to remove every recipes
I guess it's cancelling the remove of this native convert but I don't get how it works
event.remove({not:[
{ id: 'expatternprovider:epp_part' },
{ id: 'expatternprovider:ei_part' },
{ id: 'expatternprovider:epp_alt' },
{ id: 'expatternprovider:ei_alt' },
], mod: 'expatternprovider' });
I don't get what's the id
Okay nvm I found out by adding the oversized one
well that should be good let's try to make a PR
@brave cairn I sent the PR but I'm confuse if I did it correctly
oh
I put the wrong name
brave cairn
event.remove({not:[
{ id: 'expatternprovider:epp_part' },
{ id: ...
this means "remove every recipe that isn't one of these 4, and belongs to the expatternprovider mod"
gloomy elm
I was just surprise that the id is shortened
brave cairn
well that should be good let's try to make a PR
you're missing the server startup script file too, but the rest looks good
can you put the PR to my 0.9 branch as well? will be much easier to merge it there
gloomy elm
How do I find your branch?
I put the wrong name also so it's like I'm adding a file and not modyfing one
brave cairn
gloomy elm
https://github.com/Pyritie/Modpack-Modern/tree/0.9
Okay on yours I did it better I believe
I can delete the other one and redo it properly
brave cairn
merged, thank you!
brave cairn
lava proof, you can swim in it
severe matrix
will the equipment be burn ?
gloomy elm
How do I do if I want to launch the dev build on 0.9? I download your branch but does that download the correct mods also?
brave cairn
you'll also want to download my 0.9 branch of tfg-core via intellij or your java IDE of choice, then run gradle -> build. Your /build/libs folder then has the tfg-core jar, copy that into your minecraft instance's mods folder
the pakku stuff in that contributing file is what downloads all the other mods for you
proven ginkgo
does this help? ๐ค
yes, I have made a partial fix, the blocks are now broken from top to bottom, it reduces the amount of cave-ins by a lot, but doesn't completely.
brave cairn
that's already a big help!
proven ginkgo
Although the electrical drills are still an issue the noise they cause is reduced way less. But I suspect it is caused by another problem
brave cairn
might be worth asking in the tfc discord if they'd have any tips?
proven ginkgo
yes
worthy tusk
check out my lovely LCR cube! 2x2x2 cube of lcrs
brave cairn
wrong chat?
worthy tusk
Oh. Oops.
brave cairn
god I hate when I see a mod that's like "very configurable! ๐" and then has zero documentation about how to configure it
it's probably comments in a config file that gets added but still
brave cairn
found this in gt's config:
# Dump all registered GT models/blockstates/etc?
# Default: false
dumpAssets: false
I wonder if it would show where the textures are located? so maybe we could override them
gotta go to bed now tho
sharp smelt
would it be possible to combine tectonic mod with terrafirmacraft mod?
brave cairn
absolutely not
tfc is very closely tied to its worldgen
I did see that tfc is getting a bunch of worldgen improvements in 1.21 tho, check their server
proven ginkgo
Although the electrical drills are still an issue the noise they cause is reduce...
Found it. The block you're actually mining always breaks first (with a mining hammer the center block), which still causes the cave-ins
brave cairn
ah! nice catch
https://github.com/Pyritie/Modpack-Modern/blob/0.9/TODO.md
I made a todo list with what I think is everything that still needs doing? I'm sure I'm forgetting stuff
proven ginkgo
Found it. The block you're actually mining always breaks first (with a mining ha...
However, it won't be practical to fix, as the logic for the center block handled by regular minecraft logic.
brave cairn
yeah makes sense, don't think it's worth the effort
I suspect it was mostly the bottom row that's the problem, if you're using mining supports, because in a 3-tall mine, only the top two rows would be supported
proven ginkgo
yes, I have made a partial fix, the blocks are now broken from top to bottom, it...
Then that issue should be resolved with this fix. I'll make a pr
brave cairn
awesome!
brave cairn
@proven ginkgo I looked through your PR, did the original function do any kind of checking if the blocks are actually breakable with that tool? like if you tried to mine a mixed area of stone and sand it would only break the sand
or is that handled elsewhere
proven ginkgo
That is handled somewhere else
brave cairn
wanna do something else? you can look through the todo list and see if anything looks interesting
check here first though in case someone's already working on it
proven ginkgo
I might look into the cold water thing
brave cairn
sounds good! I'm not sure if gt has a cold water fluid yet but if not it's easy to make one in kube
I think it has a "liquid ice"
hoary sand
It does i remember WTFing at that
brave cairn
we can always rename it to something else lol
coral vault
Liquid ice is funny tho
worthy tusk
i don't think it does anything either
brave cairn
this is just a test but I may have just figured out the texture thing -- and yeah it does abuse material icon sets lol
gloomy elm
I can have a look at AdvancedAE
brave cairn
there we go, way more ore block texture variety and a second set of gem ore items
plain imp
Hi, working on a glizzy addon, having some issues with a recipe. I have 2 food-declaration code snippets. Both are exactly the same, (except the name), but only one shows correctly in-game
.create("raspberry_boba")
.displayName("Raspberry Boba Tea")
.texture("fff:item/raspberry_boba")
.tag("tfc:foods")
.tooltip(["ยง7A refreshingly sweet treat!"])
.food((food) => {
food.hunger(2); // Amount of hunger restored
food.saturation(2); // Saturation restored
food.meat(false); // Indicates it's a meat item
food.fastToEat(false); // Whether it's fast to eat like dried kelp
food.alwaysEdible(true); // Whether it can be eaten when the player is not hungry
});
.create("taro_boba")
.displayName("Dragonium's Delectable Taro Milk Tea")
.texture("fff:item/taro_boba")
.tag("tfc:foods")
.tooltip(["ยง7A refreshingly sweet treat!"])
.food((food) => {
food.hunger(2); // Amount of hunger restored
food.saturation(2); // Saturation restored
food.meat(false); // Indicates it's a meat item
food.fastToEat(false); // Whether it's fast to eat like dried kelp
food.alwaysEdible(true); // Whether it can be eaten when the player is not hungry
});
like, the only different line is the displayname ๐
worthy tusk
do me a favor and surroudn the code by triple backtick ( ``` )
plain imp
You know what? I'm thinking the ' in the Display name is the thing that is breaking the recipe. The one that doesn't show is the Taro boba, btw
worthy tusk
ah!
brave cairn
try something like .translationKey('item.modid.taro_milk_tea'), then you can write the proper name in the lang file
worthy tusk
well. i forget the different syntaxes. i could have sworn putting a ' inside " would work
brave cairn
you might need a backslash before the apostrophe? fuck if I know lol
worthy tusk
yeah i mean that is an escape so it might work
plain imp
Aha! We used ' in replacement of " in other parts of the code. Would make sense it being broken right there ๐
plain imp
try something like `.translationKey('item.modid.taro_milk_tea')`, then you can w...
I'll test with a different name, if it works, then i can work on the correct display name using this, thanks
Also, if i wanted opinions about what foods to add, where should i ask?
brave cairn
here is fine
plain imp
Then shoot your opinion, shooters
worthy tusk
curry
we already have curry leaves
meat + rice + curry leaf in a pot with some water
maybe also vegetable item
brave cairn
honestly some foods that require machines but have better stats/duration might be fun
plain imp
Okay, wait
What about some foods that use the items we created?
Like the relish, tomato wedges, pickles, etc
That way we don't create more items lmao
brave cairn
that's what I've been trying to tell you lol
worthy tusk
the only item that's created in my suggestion is the curry item
severe matrix
what you just said is pickled food ....
but instead it create the picked item itself
worthy tusk
relish is... very niche
plain imp
:p it's a good glizzy topping
worthy tusk
uh huh
severe matrix
it is a hot dog i am remember right
worthy tusk
yes
severe matrix
it was a addon for flurben and the boba tea too
plain imp
yes
worthy tusk
these are spices in the game that currently have 0 use at all:
- Oregano
- Cilantro
- Basil
- Vanilla
ok wait no, vanilla has a use
severe matrix
pizza and salsa is still there
worthy tusk
wait sorry. this is the chest of spices that do have a use
my other chest of spices burned down
severe matrix
and ther is vanilla ice cream
plain imp
lol
so.. hamburgers, hotdogs, what else do you fancy? preferable with the items i mentioned before
Just send it and i'll take notes whenever i come back online
thanks kings
worthy tusk
here this is more correct:
- Bay Laurel (this is bay leaf)
- Cardamom (very useful in indian cuisine)
- cumin
- pimento
well... i'd rather craft stuff with stuff in game, rather than limiting to dumb american cuisine lol
severe matrix
lol
so.. hamburgers, hotdogs, what else do you fancy? preferable with the items ...
wait in the code...what is that choking thing
25% to choke on boba....
plain imp
A sound the main dev coded as a joke
l o l
i can't remember if it is fully implemented or not, idk if we got the sound to work
severe matrix
this is a great gaslight for dragonium
worthy tusk
i say add pimento pickled olives
severe matrix
cumin, emmm, chinese barbeque
plain imp
this is a great gaslight for dragonium
it's just a sound, bro
you won't die, i promise
severe matrix
it say's potion effect i am not trusting u
if it is just a sound wount it be play sound effect instead
yes. sound fun
severe matrix
very deadly
plain imp
you should delete all traces of this comment from here then hahahahaha
cedar agate
Ta-daaaaa
plain imp
no one saw nothing
cedar agate
you should be here asking this stuff instead of me ๐ซ
I didn't know there were questions being asked honestly
Only just now joined the server
plain imp
I didn't know there were questions being asked honestly
Mostly the same thing i told you on the glizzy channel, how could we contribute, what was the process, etc etc
Just asked something about a snippet for one of the bobas that doesn't show in my game lol
severe matrix
well... i'd rather craft stuff with stuff in game, rather than limiting to dumb ...
taco ?
pizza ?
cedar agate
Just asked something about a snippet for one of the bobas that doesn't show in m...
That's because that code with the choking boba was originally only sent to Flurben :p
plain imp
i mean, that's not the issue
rasp boba shows in my game, taro doesnt actually show in my game
severe matrix
they are not american cuisine
worthy tusk
arguably pizza is
severe matrix
fresh basil ?
worthy tusk
that's an herb
plain imp
arguably pizza is
please tell me you're joking
severe matrix
and not common on american style
worthy tusk
please tell me you're joking
no
severe matrix
unlike canadian stlye there is fruit
it looks more like canadian pizza to me with all that fruit
plain imp
You know what? I'm thinking the **'** in the Display name is the thing that is b...
HAHAHAHHAHA
This was the issue
For fucks sake
Deleted the ' from the .displayName and it just works now lmao
Even though vscode didnt show a code break when it had it ๐
cedar agate
Lmao I'm fairly certain that's right at the end of the things I added, whoops
plain imp
It's good
Time to go back to Flurbe's Flurbs lmao (?
severe matrix
bye ?
plain imp
Also, only got 1 food idea, if any of ya'll have any other with the items i mentioned, you're welcome to ping me or send them to my dms, i'll pass them on to the dev channel lol
worthy tusk
with tomato wedges and relish? i can't say i do
plain imp
no need to have everything. It can even have vanilla/tfc/greg items for sure
cedar agate
I definitely didn't make the scripts with any intention of it being anything other than those two items ๐น Was a small thing to add simply for some YouTubers to have their fun little gimmick
worthy tusk
didn't you add mustard?
plain imp
yes
worthy tusk
beef wellington
severe matrix
no mushroom
cedar agate
beef wellington
That's a pretty good one, definitely got the stuff for that
worthy tusk
he's right no mushrooms
brave cairn
beneath adds tons of mushrooms
cedar agate
Oh wow, TFG gets rid of mushrooms? Hadn't ever even thought of that
plain imp
time to create another plant /joke
severe matrix
it is just not possible to get in tfg at the moment
cedar agate
time to create another plant /joke
The hard part now would just be textures
brave cairn
it adds back red + brown vanilla ones + like 5 edible and 5 toxic
plain imp
mushroomless wellinton, that' will be the name
cedar agate
And I also never could figure out how to add things to worldgen
worthy tusk
i'd just wait for mushrooms
severe matrix
then that wont be wellinton anymore
brave cairn
portabello, shiitake, uhhh some others I forgor
worthy tusk
mustard... what about a philly cheesesteak
plain imp
mustard... what about a philly cheesesteak
For real, can even reuse the hotdog bread (?
severe matrix
normal bread would be fine i think
worthy tusk
i'd use normal bread
cedar agate
For real, can even reuse the hotdog bread (?
Just change the name to "Sliced Buns" and no one would question it tbh
brave cairn
put egg noodles in the hot dog bread to make yakisoba pan
plain imp
that sounds lovely
severe matrix
.....
plain imp
i'm taking so many notes
brave cairn
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakisoba-pan
mm carbs with carbs
severe matrix
just have yakisoba and yakisoba pan
worthy tusk
dangit i'm hungry and all the stores are closed
cedar agate
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakisoba-pan
mm carbs with carbs
I love how this is basically what iCarly did with spaghetti tacos
brave cairn
lol
cedar agate
severe matrix
pho
worthy tusk
wait we have egg noodles but no ramen? what is this!
severe matrix
we got rice noodle
brave cairn
yuck
severe matrix
fish and chips
brave cairn
honestly if someone wants to do something, they can add create recipes for most of the food we already have
worthy tusk
oh you know what else is mustard! scotch egg!
severe matrix
make bread crumb with bread and fireed it in a pot of oil with
worthy tusk
i coudl go for a scotch egg
plain imp
is there a cooked egg noddle already?
severe matrix
is there a cooked egg noddle already?
yes
worthy tusk
no, it turns into cooked pasta
plain imp
i can only see normal cooked pasta
plain imp
no, it turns into cooked pasta
ah, k
coral vault
How do I switch to the 0.9 branch with github? I can clone the main branch of the fork just fine, but I get an error when trying to switch branches because of the mods folder. Also getting an error when trying to build gradle for tfg-core.
worthy tusk
hmm, no breadcrumbs though
severe matrix
hmm, no breadcrumbs though
thus i said make bread crumbs with slice bread and bakes ?
worthy tusk
yeah i'm trying to think of things that you don't have to create new ingredients for
plain imp
noted, noted
that should be enough for a while, have to download a fresh copy and refactor our stuff for the latest version
thx kings
severe matrix
garlic mashed potato, there is bake potato
so why not mashed potato and mix that with a slice of cooked beef to make a steak dinner with side as vege
coral vault
How do I switch to the 0.9 branch with github? I can clone the main branch of th...
@brave cairn do you know?
plain imp
is there a way to capture birds? lol
severe matrix
we got egg, milk bread and sugar so bread pudding
severe matrix
is there a way to capture birds? lol
lead ?
plain imp
like birds birds that fly, not chickens
severe matrix
and fence wit two block
they dont fly, they just jump higher
so fence of two block really
plain imp
i'll see which of those make it to the thing lol
severe matrix
men i am making myself hungry before i go to bed
plain imp
My bad
coral vault
might want to make a whole forum just for food
severe matrix
i have list to go on with this but i will do it when i get some food that is after i sleep
plain imp
That would have been a good idea
Might do that next time i'm here to ask for that kind of help
brave cairn
<@545532674828271616> do you know?
how are you downloading the branch?
brave cairn
welcome back!
not really anything major
uh lemme see -- I've mostly just been messing with auto generated textures (I added much more variety to the ore blocks, and now the tfc ores use the actual tfc ore items), we talked about diving suits a bit, the other side of the ae2 bug was fixed so now making patterns works too, aoe mining tools should cause way fewer cave-ins now, flurben poked his head into the server
I ported over most of the ore mining loot table code so it gives poor/raw/rich, but couldn't get hammering for crushed to work, which then gave me this idea of changing a bit of primitive progression
tldr of my idea: make pickaxes/mining hammers the only way to mine because the hammer thing is unintuitive and confuses people, then move bits of create earlier to turn the ore into crushed
this also keeps the tfc mechanic of using a hammer on cobble turns it into gravel, and using it on it again turns it into sand
I pinged exception for feedback about this a couple days ago but no response yet
https://github.com/Pyritie/Modpack-Modern/blob/0.9/TODO.md anddddd lastly we have a todo list now!
exotic wraith
oh fuck yeah
a todo list
thats nice
this is.,.. not true?
oh wait
no yeah
hide only the roofs from Alekiroofs
i'm just silly
brave cairn
at least that's how I understood what was going on from my 5 mins of looking into it lol
but yeah! we're getting close I feel!
brave cairn
ah yes, ruby
coral vault
how are you downloading the branch?
I'm just cloning the repo onto my local files and using pakku to download the mods and stuff. But I can't figure out how to switch to the 0.9 branch or just straight up clone that branch from the beginning
brave cairn
oh hm
I'd suggest using something like VS or intellij to handle that -- especially if you'll be building tfg-core (which you'll have to if you want latest)
coral vault
Alright, I'll try that. Also intellij gave me an error when trying to build tfg-core. I'll get a pic of it in a bit
brave cairn
you wanna run this build, not the "normal" build
brave cairn
how did you download the instance?
I just opened up a new intellij project and told it to clone my repo
brave cairn
which repo did you point it at? try my one
coral vault
thats what i used
I got that build file to appear after re-downloading. But it still gives the same error
This problem might be caused by incorrect configuration of the daemon.
For example, an unrecognized jvm option is used.For more details on the daemon, please refer to https://docs.gradle.org/8.4/userguide/gradle_daemon.html in the Gradle documentation.
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Check the JVM arguments defined for the gradle process in:
- gradle.properties in project root directory
do I need to define the main class?
wait
think i fixed it
my dumbass got the 32bit version so I had to change the heap size to 1026M
mama always said I wouldnt make it as a gradle builder
well look at me now!
brave cairn
pog
I think I might be in over my head with these indicators lol
I might need to do something completely different and just make my own block class in java and learn how forge docs work argh lol
hm... unless...
coral vault
You need to make sure they aren't rendered as a full block in the model file
brave cairn
I am, that's how you can see the grass under it
the problem is the render type -- if I do translucent then I get what's in that pic
coral vault
There's two different ones. One for back culling other blocks and one for back culling itself
brave cairn
but if I do cutout which is what vanilla amethyst buds do, I get something like this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1186025944222269580/1353033040074637414/image.png?ex=67e02db6&is=67dedc36&hm=3ede59a29134efcd2e811fc69bda640bb8b5a96ad2a55a008b16675fbf1d9ccb&
coral vault
Yeah if I remember right it isn't something you can change in kubejs. It has to do with the model file
Check out the model file for amethyst and it will probably have something like noOcclusion as a model property
Heading to work now so I can't check the files myself
brave cairn
https://github.com/InventivetalentDev/minecraft-assets/blob/1.20.1/assets/minecraft/models/block/cross.json I have, it doesn't say
{
"ambientocclusion": false,
"textures": {
"particle": "#cross"
},
"elements": [
{ "from": [ 0.8, 0, 8 ],
"to": [ 15.2, 16, 8 ],
"rotation": { "origin": [ 8, 8, 8 ], "axis": "y", "angle": 45, "rescale": true },
"shade": false,
"faces": {
"north": { "uv": [ 0, 0, 16, 16 ], "texture": "#cross" },
"south": { "uv": [ 0, 0, 16, 16 ], "texture": "#cross" }
}
},
{ "from": [ 8, 0, 0.8 ],
"to": [ 8, 16, 15.2 ],
"rotation": { "origin": [ 8, 8, 8 ], "axis": "y", "angle": 45, "rescale": true },
"shade": false,
"faces": {
"west": { "uv": [ 0, 0, 16, 16 ], "texture": "#cross" },
"east": { "uv": [ 0, 0, 16, 16 ], "texture": "#cross" }
}
}
]
}```I don't know where I'd have access to that
coral vault
Its a kubejs argument
gloomy elm
@exotic wraith I have some new quests that we should make for Applied Energistic but I have no idea how to do them
Also I was wondering Pyritie you said you would prefer to create more lines than expand the energy tier for now
How would feel if I try to create new process lines that I could use for the new items for AE2?
There is the evaporation tower that is implemented in base GT but have basically no use as of now
brave cairn
Its a kubejs argument
I'm not making them in kubejs because of stuff involving gt tag prefixes, and also because kubejs's block builder is missing some essential stuff like making blocks break when their attached neighbour is broken
brave cairn
There is the evaporation tower that is implemented in base GT but have basically...
I think the whole brine stuff is removed in this newer gt version
brave cairn
How would feel if I try to create new process lines that I could use for the new...
for advanced AE? do you still think we even need it, especially after extended has its own multiblock now?
nvm I just checked, the brine is still here, but maybe it's getting removed in gt 1.7, idr
gloomy elm
for advanced AE? do you still think we even need it, especially after extended h...
Advanced doesnโt have the same multiblock. The multiblock from Advanced is basically a Super CPU
I think itโs still there
I think the only use for brine now is the pills for radiations
But hazard is still in development
brave cairn
oh I see it's just a process to get bromine, but bromine itself has no uses rn
gloomy elm
Yeah Iโm pretty sure radiation pill needs bromine in a way
But Iโm not sure they have a use
gloomy elm
Maybe they are also waiting for nuclear stuff
The add on for nuclear fission is still in development
And for AdvancedAE I mean it all depends. I would say right now itโs not really useful because TFG Gregtech is basically vanilla
So the strong tools from AdvancedAE are not necessary on Vanilla
It all depends if GT is expended upon later ln
On*
exotic wraith
<@207632937338798081> I have some new quests that we should make for Applied Ene...
To be fair i think you can do it however you want, grasping the basics of FTBQuests isnt difficult actually
at most what i'd ask is to keep naming conventions consistent
the one i'm using is basically
quests.x.y.z
where
x == category (ie: primitive_age)
y == mission (ie: create_chips)
z == Per mission text (ie: title, subtitle, desc, task)
Fair
brave cairn
And for AdvancedAE I mean it all depends. I would say right now itโs not really ...
then let's just remove it for now -- we can always add it back later if we need it
btw, if you wanna do quest stuff, would you like to handle the other gt quests after you try out the ae2 one?
nebby never got very far into gt so he doesn't know it much
brave cairn
the general philosophy with the quest overhaul is that quests should be for two things:
- goals
- extra stuff that the player might not discover on their own
the current non-gt community pack quests instead just put every step of a crafting recipe as its own quest which is WAY too bloated
brave cairn
Right now itโs Gregtech Community Pack right ?
yep! it might be good to grab an "updated version" of its quests before tweaking it for TFG
gloomy elm
definitely
And there is some tips from compatibility with Create and TFC that could be made as quests
Are you planing on removing the custom nether air multiblock?
Now that we have the Beneath
Where do we merge quests?
brave cairn
And there is some tips from compatibility with Create and TFC that could be made...
ya let's wait until exception responds about my suggested primitive age suggestions before we do much with the create quests
brave cairn
Are you planing on removing the custom nether air multiblock?
possibly, I kinda want to instead have us do planetary gases instead
so I'm thinking we just leave the multiblock until mars arrives then we deprecate it
coral vault
I mean there is also the nether now... So even more of a reason lol
brave cairn
true but tbh why change it now if it's just gonna get changed again in a couple months, yknow?
@gloomy elm btw nebby has his own 0.9 branch for quests if you wanna take a look at his work
exotic wraith
right
coral vault
Because*insert sysyphus image again
exotic wraith
no
look at uhh
pyritie's fork
they added me as a contributor so i have the most up to date primitive quest rework there
gloomy elm
Okay perfect I will push there then
brave cairn
ayy, figured out how to make my own block
brave cairn
found this
https://modrinth.com/mod/create-vintage-improvements come with a whole bunch of machines, looks a bit overkill but some of it might be handy for this "introduce create earlier" idea?
even base tfc has ways to automate hammering out plates
if this create stuff goes ahead I kinda wonder if it would be better as a 0.9.1 or something, along with create 6
coral vault
Probably. Getting out worldgen features first so people don't have to wait. And then add create stuff later since it impacts worlds less
brave cairn
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1186025944222269580/1353170170805358722/image.png?ex=67e0ad6d&is=67df5bed&hm=192a848a3e96e38a03ed9091f4c6a48b6bd9130dd0a6af7d6f9551b62cdcde83&
cool, we got automatically generated buds now, no more photoshop for me
bad news: because of minecraft rendering and how gt recolors things, we end up with this https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1186025944222269580/1353050377599189074/image.png?ex=67e03ddc&is=67deec5c&hm=fbd2be8ca834a56f884aee0197209621a429fd175dfaad4eae8b2447f6b60df7&
so I'm thinking of just putting together a quick 3d model or something instead
since all the other indicators are 3d already
and also because I'm tired of fighting with this all day lol. But hey I wrote a bunch of java for once
and I need to move on
(unless someone else wants to model them?)
(just something smallish to fit with the tfc and new gt indicators)
coral vault
I dont mind
brave cairn
if you're not too swamped with other stuff to do! just a single model is fine, it'd be nice to not have to juggle three
coral vault
yeah I dont mind, mostly just trying to get your branch cloned properly
brave cairn
have you been at that all day? damn
coral vault
nah, just got back from work lol
coral vault
Greg night
coral vault
Okay, got your branch working. Intellij worked just fine to do it
Another L for Github desktop
brave cairn
SICK thanks so much
plain imp
Btw, how would you add stuff to worldgen?
We have some plants and never got them to spawn on the wild ๐ซ
brave cairn
you mean like, small shrubs? or trees?
for placed features you have to add them to a tag and add climate data so tfc knows where to put them
trees are structures so you do something similar
plain imp
Crops
Vegetables, mostly
Tried to spawn em like the random wild crops
I'll reread the code again, we did add all that data (tags and climate), but might have missed something
brave cairn
hm, you could try asking in the firmalife thread or something in the tfc discord, the only thing I've added to the overworld worldgen was some glow lichen in caves
well and ore veins but those are ez
or just look at how tfc/firmalife/arborcraft's source code does it
civic hazel
Hey new player here how do I make a saw? I have the mold but idk how to get the rest.
Also, is Zinc any useful?
brave cairn
check your field guide, the book tab in your inventory -- there's a getting started section
zinc can be used for brass and bismuth bronze
but also, this is the wrong place to ask - #๐ฌโmodern-chat-en is for general questions
this thread is for the modpack contributors lol
civic hazel
Oh excuse me
brave cairn
<@354877726878072836> hello! we are making good progress. The nether is 95% fini...
@low gate sorry to bother, but I saw you were online --
low gate
Hi, yes, I saw it, I just didn't respond because I was busy.
The idea you described sounds good.
brave cairn
no problem! Should it be for 0.9 or 0.9.1?
vocal slate
I'm really really not a contributor here but I would highly agree with the suggestion to remove hammers giving crushed ore. It is... unreasonably tedious to switch between the two, and the field guide's suggestion of "if it melts, you want to use a pickaxe" is both misleadingly wrong and absurd. There is simply no easy way to convey that information to the player without compiling a table from JEI - and at that point the mechanic isn't doing anything useful.
Although it looks like you already agree so I'm just preaching to the choir maybe...
brave cairn
hey I appreciate the agreement! I've been looking for more opinions and everyone I've asked seems to agree so far
(btw if you'd like to contribute, we'd very much welcome it!)
cosmic veldt
I second this idea if only because the fact that pickaxes are effectively useless really bothers me
coral vault
btw I have some pottery models from an earlier project. Thinking of making the rest of the colors and importing them but dont have an idea of how they should function.
brave cairn
they look really cool! did you know tfc also has similar stuff with its large vessels?
worthy tusk
bad news: because of minecraft rendering and how gt recolors things, we end up w...
that... doesn't look bad
coral vault
Yup, but these are XL vessels. Most bigger than a block
They were going to be added in a past tfc project I was working on, but it didn't get too far. So I never ended up using them
coral vault
Oh yeah, @brave cairn you may have to play around with the Layer 1 texture. I wasn't sure exactly how the color gets applied so if it's too dark or too light let me know if you need me to fix it.
brave cairn
They were going to be added in a past tfc project I was working on, but it didn'...
ooh, did you get them working with the other tfc mechanics?
brave cairn
Oh yeah, <@545532674828271616> you may have to play around with the Layer 1 text...
np np I'll get it working!
coral vault
ooh, did you get them working with the other tfc mechanics?
Not yet lol. Not sure if I want to make them like a larger vessel, a barrel, or maybe the vanilla Minecraft decorated pot.
Either way it may need to be modded in
brave cairn
ye up to you
if it needs java code to work then that's fine - the goal is to just move what's possible to kjs
like I had to do java to get these new buds working since kubejs' block builder is pretty limited
coral vault
Yeah, I'll see what magic I can pull with class reflection first before I try java code
brave cairn
another idea, what about structures? have you ever made those before?
coral vault
Nope! I know how to make structure files though
brave cairn
would you like to learn? I'm against them having anything significant in the sense of early game loot (don't want people to skip progression), but I love the decoration and vibes they can give
https://gist.github.com/GentlemanRevvnar/387f9ee28613715c187a36dbc1dff35d this is what I used to figure out how to make moon structures, it's a little different in 1.20 but easy to figure out
coral vault
Sure, I can look into it. Is there any underlying lore that should be explained through structures? Or are they just for the vibes
I'm guessing it's mostly ruins right?
brave cairn
I don't have any sort of lore in mind, nope! but if you'd like to make some feel free to
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/tfc-ruined-world I added this already, which is a nice starting point
coral vault
Alright, looks fun!
coral vault
Do we have an opinion on adding custom villagers? With more balanced trading
We have coins in the pack and farming can't be exploited as much for villager trading
brave cairn
the coins are being removed in gt 1.7 ๐
I'm personally against villagers because no matter what you do, people always try and turn them into farms lol
coral vault
That's fair. Just feels like it makes sense with all the crops and stuff in the pack. But it's definitely too much work
brave cairn
you'd also have to go and change all the existing village structures because they use vanilla blocks
coral vault
Yeah, and idek how to get them to not buy moldy food
brave cairn
true lol
brave cairn
I changed the bottom texture to be greyscale so the material's secondary color can use it instead
what do you think? the green looked great on the surface on grass, but looked a little odd underground
coral vault
Looks great. Didn't think about them being underground. If you want a new texture for the bottom that fits the crystals better I can make it
brave cairn
your choice! lemme set up all the veins to use these, then I'll push to the repo so you can see how you feel about it
coral vault
I'm wondering if we can randomize the position on the block like how flowers are random
Sure sure
Will you have them drop poor ore when they break? Or just the buds themselves
brave cairn
either the poor ore or maybe a chipped gem
I was thinking of having them drop the item when you cut them with a gem saw though, if you want them as decoration
(or make them craftable, like how you can do with the dust piles)
brave cairn
I'm wondering if we can randomize the position on the block like how flowers are...
lmk if you figure that out, first I'm just trying to see how to rotate them lol
coral vault
I was thinking of having them drop the item when you cut them with a gem saw tho...
That's a good idea. Are they emissive?
coral vault
lmk if you figure that out, first I'm just trying to see how to rotate them lol
Maybe look at the code for player skulls
brave cairn
That's a good idea. Are they emissive?
haven't checked yet
brave cairn
turns out you need to give a block an empty loot table in code in order for lootjs to be able to add things to it
but hey
coral vault
nice! how do you get the block form?
brave cairn
block form?
coral vault
yeah if players want to place the block down as decoration
brave cairn
oh! I don't have a recipe yet but I'm open to suggestions
coral vault
that seems good
brave cairn
so any gem + a chisel?
coral vault
yeah
brave cairn
sure thing
coral vault
also does it break if there isnt a block under it? the bottom isnt too pretty since I figured it couldnt float lol
brave cairn
also does it break if there isnt a block under it? the bottom isnt too pretty si...
correct
brave cairn
with the greg ones you just get small dust piles, even though you can also craft the indicator back
coral vault
i see
brave cairn
I couldn't get the rotation stuff to work but I just wanna shelve this for now lol
coral vault
fair. I looked into it a little and it seems like its not a block state thing. Its just coded like that
brave cairn
which one is coded like that?
coral vault
sorry, I looked at player skulls to see how it was done for those
brave cairn
ah
coral vault
getting 4 direction rotation is easy with kubejs, but I dont know how you have to do it. and more than 4 directions is tricky
brave cairn
I was testing out tfc ones and it looks like their direction is determined by like, coordinates? and not which way the player was facing
coral vault
so like lily pads?
brave cairn
is that also how they work? idk
coral vault
yeah i think so
brave cairn
that would also work then ๐ค
also added this, since before it was macerator exclusive
actually.. lemme make it a mortar recipe because those are underused rn
ok! all pushed! both tfg-core and the modpack
btw, when I was merging in your medicines, I have to ask -- why not use a tag for each ingredient instead of doing stuff through arrays?
(also, you can skip writing the kinetic mixer recipes - pretty sure that's not coming back)
coral vault
btw, when I was merging in your medicines, I have to ask -- why not use a tag fo...
because I wrote the code at like 3am
coral vault
(also, you can skip writing the kinetic mixer recipes - pretty sure that's not c...
Yeah I wasnt sure so I just commented them out since when I wrote it there was the kenetic mixer
If I have time later I will switch to use tags
brave cairn
severe matrix
this also means that there would be a lot more bed rock farming too
should we make it harder to farm at bedrock level ?
like make the underground much colder or hotter at some point
brave cairn
nah, it's fine, the main difficulty is getting enough light sources down there and then getting your crops all the way back up
coral vault
ok! all pushed! both tfg-core and the modpack
hmm, getting a crash at startup. were any other mods added/changed or just tfg-core?
coral vault
org.spongepowered.asm.mixin.transformer.throwables.InvalidMixinException
coral vault
just a sec
I rebuilt tfg-core. Got a warning there about using an older gradle version but it finished building
brave cairn
that's normal
coral vault
here is the log
pakku fetch didnt fix it
seems like an issue with firmalife and kubejs
brave cairn
dammit not the stupid charcoal pile igniter again
coral vault
is that in tfg-core?
brave cairn
yeah
coral vault
I have fisher and steam boiler mixin files
brave cairn
hm! I have no idea why it's complaining about the GTMachinesMixin because that doesn't even exist any more
what happens if you use mine?
brave cairn
just so you can see
same as mine ๐ฆ I don't know what's going on
brave cairn
also...
looks like it's generating the right number of buds at least - next check inside kubejs/assets/tfc/models/block? your bud indicator should be there (same for the texture folder)
coral vault
looks like it's generating the right number of buds at least - next check inside...
Nope, your old bud models and textures are in the tfg folder and nothing is in the tfc folder.
coral vault
im going to try a fresh install. Seems like for some reason im like stuck 1 commit behind
ill try to rebuild tfg-core too
brave cairn
๐
coral vault
Works! both tfg-core built fine and everything is up to date
Im convinced github can smell my fear
coral vault
i clicked update on the branch and everything
coral vault
can you see your buds?
yupp!
brave cairn
nice!
- removed advanced AE
- added forgiving world (the dimension teleport mod), tfc-textile (special clothes you can make from predator animals), digger helmet (a mod specifically made for TFG that was forgotten about, doesn't seem to quite work yet but I've pinged the author)
updated todo list as well
brave cairn
grab latest again, then run pakku fetch? you might need to copy over your pakku-lock.json
depends on how your workspace is set up
brave cairn
https://miro.com/app/board/uXjVIMTrVg4=/?share_link_id=661938290461
here's my suggestion for primitive age rework! would very much like any and all feedback
coral vault
Looks nice, I really like the idea of the animal powered crank
coral vault
can I add the roads and roofs mod and domum ornamentum mod? If im going to be adding structures I think they would help a lot
brave cairn
domum ornamentum looks like framed blocks? which we already have
unless I'm misunderstanding it
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/roads-and-roofs-tfc do you mean this roads and roofs one? sure I know a few people added it already
coral vault
it is like framed blocks but it adds some really nice roof models and brick textures as well
brave cairn
are tfc's not enough for you? :p
we do also have create deco now
and create itself has those polished stone blocks
I added recipes for them in my space branch, I haven't ported them over yet
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/macaws-for-terrafirmacraft otherwise there's also this for roofing
coral vault
its not bad but it doesnt have any brick roofs... hmm
coral vault
with domum I can add roofs like this
worthy tusk
doesn't roads-and-roofs have any?
onlt ceramic
coral vault
I can definitely go without it tho. But its nice for builders
worthy tusk
technically. could use a road as a roof if you're crafty
brave cairn
dang those are some sexy roofs
worthy tusk
i am also one of those people that added roads n roofs ๐
if we add it to this modpack i will volunteer to make greggy recipes for the stuff
brave cairn
lol I think roads n roofs is more appropriate than a second framed blocks mod :p
coral vault
Ill definitely add roads n roofs. And I think domum adds a lot more than just a copy of framed blocks
brave cairn
lol that's what I'm afraid of... it sounds huge
how much roofing are you planning on adding to these structures anyway? out of curiosity
coral vault
well it only adds a few blocks. Everything is generated through the GUI so it doesnt clutter your inventory like framed blocks.
I was planning on making different structures depending on the biome based on real world ancient civilizations.
A lot of them have terracotta roofs, which isnt really possible with the current blocks
Also I think regular players would like it as well
brave cairn
https://terrafirmacraft.github.io/Documentation/1.20.x/worldgen/decorators/#climate you'll be wanting this
brave cairn
well it only adds a few blocks. Everything is generated through the GUI so it do...
ah I see, that's not so bad then
coral vault
thanks!
brave cairn
I still think it'll be funny if we end up with like 3 roofing mods lol
coral vault
You can mix and match different textures at the workbench
need to add tags to properly add functionality tho
coral vault
I still think it'll be funny if we end up with like 3 roofing mods lol
you can never have too many roofing mods ๐
ill probably disable these though
plain imp
You can mix and match different textures at the workbench
Ohhh i hated it on minecolonies
Always mixed up the blocks and had to remake em
coral vault
lol
brave cairn
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/decofirmacraft/ found this option as well if you want even more deco lol
though it adds quite a lot more than just deco blocks so we'd have to sort that out too
gloomy elm
I was wondering where do you put the description for quests if you want to have them in different languages?
I understand that there is a different file somewhere
brave cairn
I think they go in kubejs/assets/tfg/lang?
brave cairn
though it adds quite a lot more than just deco blocks so we'd have to sort that ...
hmm... more rock types would be nice for all the extra dimensions we'll be having... ๐ค
gloomy elm
I think they go in kubejs/assets/tfg/lang?
Thanks i will have a look then
I will update the quests with the Community Pack and touched some stuff to take TFC into consideration
brave cairn
awesome!
yeah stuff like needing sapphire for your first aluminium, or ae2 being available in LV lol
brave cairn
is it just me or have backpacks disappeared
I just see a few of the upgrades and nothing else
spiral lintel
is it just me or have backpacks disappeared
i wouldn't know (don't look at my suspiciously sophisticated backpack shaped belly)
brave cairn
hm, if I downgrade to a really old version then they work ๐ค
gloomy elm
They changed names and tag on the recent version?
brave cairn
no as in like, they just don't show up in jei or the creative menu at all
well whatever, we're back on an old version of backpacks for now
can't figure out why the item size/weight stuff isn't working either, so I'm moving on to something else
brave cairn
updated a load of mods, I tested it a bit but please let me know if something's broken (this means running pakku fetch)
brave cairn
yes but it was just cleanup so you can ignore it if it still won't work for you
coral vault
Everything loaded fine
coral vault
??
brave cairn
lmao, what is that gregtech
coral vault
yeah lol
brave cairn
do you know how to remove recipes?
coral vault
yeah ill take care of it
i just thought it was funny
yall ever just dunk your bricks in water?
brave cairn
and have them magically stick together?
coral vault
working on adding create deco, and domum support atm
unless someone already added create deco support in another fork?
brave cairn
they did, lemme find it
https://github.com/TerraFirmaGreg-Team/Modpack-Modern/pull/555 + https://github.com/TerraFirmaGreg-Team/Modpack-Modern/pull/743
coral vault
alright cool
brave cairn
if you wanna integrate them across, go for it
I think the deco lights can be adjusted to use glowstone now since that'll be much easier to get
coral vault
yeah ill take a look and adjust whats needed and push it
brave cairn
hm, just noticed computercraft seems to be broken as well...
I wonder if an emi update is what caused this
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/decofirmacraft/ did you see this btw?
brave cairn
alrighty
coral vault
is there a way to copy the pull request into my branch? Id rather be able to leave credit for the changes
coral vault
id like to see what the piglins do with rose gold gears
brave cairn
ok so I figured out the backpack problem
the mod has its own config file where you can turn items off, and for whatever reason almost everything was disabled
hoary sand
regarding your question about applying a tfg PR to your codebase, yes that's definitely possible but can be a bit awkward
are you applying it to a fork of the tfg repo or to a copy of the tfg code in a different repo?
if it's the former what you want to do is git remote add upstream-tfg git:tfg-upstream-url then git fetch tfg-upstream
then you can do git merge or git-cherry-pick to grab the contents of a branch using tfg-upstream/branchname as your source
if they're not, you're going to need to extract a patch and try to manually apply it, which I can also help with
brave cairn
backpack thing is all good now -- updated the mod version to latest, had to remove something out of tfg-core that was overwriting stack sizes to fix the putting-backpacks-in-vessels exploit
adjusted a few of the upgrades too, magnet, stack, and everlasting upgrades are a bit cheaper
plain imp
not-so-sneak-peek
brave cairn
what are the brown/green bottom things?
brave cairn
oh!
small arrow
any way to fix the "error rendering" when opening recipes in backpack and ae2 system?
the emi stuff doesnt want to work in specific inventories
It crashed my game hovering and holding shift to try to display the recipe on the side
brave cairn
important update ๐
plain imp
My gpu doesn't like that update
brave cairn
https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/particular-reforged + https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/coastal-waves
waves has built-in tfc support, particular does not, and it doesn't seem very configurable to make it understand tfc's boats or river water
adds these effects fine to a ravine with still water, but won't to a river
I'll make them an issue on their github
coral vault
Alright, Createdeco integration added. I had to change a lot of things from the pr
plain imp
Took me longer to get git to work than to start coding ๐
brave cairn
Alright, Createdeco integration added. I had to change a lot of things from the ...
pog
brave cairn
gonna add the airplane mod from #1328677031164117022
I think some of its recipes need a few small tweaks from back then
but should be pretty quick
coral vault
have you looked into the animal create mod yet?
brave cairn
the what?
coral vault
hmm is it possible to add a mod from curseforge that isnt on modrinth? pakku wants the modrinth id but there isnt one
brave cairn
oh that one, no I haven't yet
brave cairn
hmm is it possible to add a mod from curseforge that isnt on modrinth? pakku wan...
just press enter
coral vault
brave cairn
it's ok I went through the same ๐
coral vault
I tried like "NA","NULL", "N" and all possible variations
brave cairn
ok, aircraft stuff is all pushed - I also got distracted and removed a bunch of overlapping gregtech and tfc recipes for vanilla items
anyone wanna add blast furnace recipes for coke? and maybe coal for the bloomery too? https://notenoughmail.github.io/kubejs_tfc/1.20.1/recipes/#blast-furnace
severe matrix
anyone wanna add blast furnace recipes for coke? and maybe coal for the bloomery...
na coal not really, in real life coke is made for steel making and coal is not used
brave cairn
coke for steel and coal for bloomery then? ๐ค
just trying to give more uses to the big coal veins lol
severe matrix
coke is more brittle and could be layerd easier for both of the metal work thus that is the reason why charcoal is perfered
severe matrix
coke for steel and coal for bloomery then? ๐ค
"The problem with using coal in ironmaking is that when you heat up most coals they expand, deform, and/or crumble as they outgas a variety of hydrocarbons. This is very bad behavior for a material being put into an ironmaking blast furnace, because the furnace charge has to be permeable enough that the hot-blast air can pass through it. Coal fines and softened coal clog the flow channels for the hot-blast air through the furnace charge, and the furnace catastrophically shuts down. The moisture contained in the coal also absorbs heat as it vaporizes, reducing the heat available for the furnace."
thus if you add, coke is fine for both but not coal
coral vault
I mean, you can turn coal into coke
severe matrix
I mean, you can turn coal into coke
...that is the context
the reason why coal is turn to coke for iron making and blast furnace
coral vault
Im aware, they were just saying they wanted a use for coal. Coal can be turned into coke so it still works for iron
but it is fair that no one really uses coal since logs are so much cheaper
severe matrix
na, i an sure we can make tweek to it so it make blast furnace with a higher temp or something for using coke
brave cairn
I mean blast furnace is just a recipe
so you could do like, 1 charcoal -> 1 steel, or 1 coke -> 2 steel
(with equivalent iron inputs ofc)
severe matrix
!
coral vault
honestly maybe just dont use charcoal for the blast furnace?
brave cairn
lol, also an idea
severe matrix
no, charcoal is fine
brave cairn
I would like to encourage the automation earlier
coral vault
charcoal is just too easy to get
brave cairn
and the coke oven is going to be a bigger part with my primitive rework
coral vault
I know Id rather spend double the charcoal
severe matrix
make coke oven expensive again
it was fire brick before and that is why charcoal is perfered
brave cairn
coke oven is already annoying because of the huge amount of clay and sand it needs, it's fine imo
severe matrix
I know Id rather spend double the charcoal
now with cheap coke oven coke is perfer now is time to make it with fire brick again ~
brave cairn
no, because fire brick needs kaolin
severe matrix
i am sure we can get something work out
coral vault
if you just dont allow charcoal in the blast furnace people will still produce plenty of charcoal for everything else in the pack. Coke doesnt have a use because trees are infinite
brave cairn
yeah, in normal greg you use exclusively coke for steel, and coke doesn't exist in tfc (though it does have coal)
coral vault
coke oven is expensive enough. Its like the first automation people do
severe matrix
"Reason you would use coke for calcium carbide is same as making steel. The reaction is a reduction and you want that clean burning, containment-free coke versus other carbon sources. Note: We can substitute for mineral graphite in some cases, but historically that has been more expensive than coke"
that is intresting
graphite in iron and steel making
brave cairn
anyway greg night
I want to finish up my nether stuff first then I can do the create things
plain imp
do i need to run pakku if i'm contributing to pyr's branch?
okay, yes, you need to run pakku
her branch has no mods in the mods folder, lol
coral vault
yeah, you also need to build your own tfc-core if you havent already
coral vault
this should be the latest version of tfg-core
but you should defiantly get it set up to build it yourself since its been changing semi frequently.
plain imp
but you should defiantly get it set up to build it yourself since its been chang...
Explain, please
coral vault
Explain, please
https://github.com/Pyritie/Core-Modern/tree/0.9 you should make your own branch of the 0.9 tfg-core mod. Then you will need to use an IDE like Intellij to build the mod whenever it gets updated. Pakku will not supply tfg-core.
plain imp
Okay, already made the branch of the 0.9 modpack-modern, fetched with pakku, and added "tfg-core" manually on curseforge. It seems like that last step is the issue?
coral vault
yeah but its not that big of a deal until tfg-core gets updated again
plain imp
Then the issue is this, i'm getting the mixin errors ๐ซ
coral vault
hmm, it shouldnt give you a problem since its up to date. Are you sure your files for Modpack-Modern are on the 0.9 branch and not the main branch?
plain imp
i might be ultra stupid
let me check that
plain imp
https://github.com/Pyritie/Core-Modern/tree/0.9 you should make your own branch ...
okay, my files are on the 0.9 branch of modpack-modern
By adding tfc-core manually i meant searching for "tfg-core" on curseforge and adding the 0.6 (latest version)
Do you recommend i rather get this one instead of the one curseforge gives me?
coral vault
No that version is not up to date. You will have to use the one I sent here or build it yourself
We are updating tfg-core as we develop the pack, so what is published on curseforge is an older version (even tho they both say 0.6)
coral vault
It only takes a few seconds for me
plain imp
im supposed to run init, right?
coral vault
This one
plain imp
Fun! visual studio code doesn't have any of that what i sent is everything i have lol
coral vault
Yeah, I don't know how to use vs to build it. I use intellij
You can download the community edition for free. Seems like most people use it here so you can get more support
plain imp
True
I'm checking with that
I hate devops so much
I remember why i never want to work on IT
if you don't mind me asking. How does the "building" work? Does it run on the background and updates the jar? Do i have to run it again to get the updated jar?
coral vault
Yeah you have to run it again each time the repo updates
When it's done you can find it in your build/libs folder
brave cairn
java sucks, man
plain imp
~_~ i'm so tired
who was the genius of addind .id(whatever) to all the craftign recipes? 7_7
brave cairn
it makes looking things up convenient, like using it to override an existing ID or look something up later
my bigger gripe is all the damn //#region spam
plain imp
imagine solving 1 error and getting 2 more, couldn't be me (it's me)
plain imp
my bigger gripe is all the damn //#region spam
Lmao trueee
just searched and it's so random
brave cairn
like I get commenting everything if you're russian and don't speak much english (like our lead dev) but you don't need to region something that's one line argh
I'm not gonna remove it all since it's not my code but yeah
plain imp
I'll //#region every line of my code just to spite you
brave cairn
though I would suggest if you're adding a big block of similar code, to stick it in a separate file like we've been doing with some of the recipe files
plain imp
Talking about that
Any gripes about me adding Flurben's Fantastic Foods on it's own folders?
brave cairn
I shove all the custom stuff in the tfg folder
brave cairn
do what you want lol just try and be consistent with what's there to keep the codebase tidy
plain imp
wild
now you have to specify what is going to be crafting the recipe
.id(tfg:crafting/name_of_the_item)
wild
plain imp
any idea of why
Item.of("kubejs:pickle_spear", 4), // pickle spear recipe
["kubejs:pickle", "#forge:tools/knives"]
).id("kubejs:pickle_spear");```is giving me "Failed to create recipe for type 'kubejs:shapeless': ItemStack 'result' can't be empty!"?
brave cairn
why are they prefixed with 'kubejs'?
(you can skip the Item.of() by writing '4x id:name' btw)
brave cairn
how are we feeling about letting create stuff overlap with LV a bunch as well?
makes LV a bit less painful, and makes create irrelevant less quickly
sort of like what the mech roller does for the lathe already
spiral lintel
how are we feeling about letting create stuff overlap with LV a bunch as well?
what ideas do you have
brave cairn
the "create: vintage improvements" mod adds a bunch of machines that overlap a bunch
like it has its own lathe, spring machine, a press you can put different molds on
spiral lintel
are these alternatives or are we disabling some LV machines
brave cairn
otherwise:
let heated mech mixer do the LV metal dust recipes
change mech roller to do foils instead?, so this new lathe can do rods
brave cairn
are these alternatives or are we disabling some LV machines
just alternatives
LV so far is kinda the only tier where you basically have to make one of everything
other tiers you don't
so this has a bit more of that consistency
spiral lintel
that sounds good, incentivises using LV if you want an easy ride or create if you want to save on steel and cables
will make the create steam engines worth more too
definitely better than the kinetic mixer half assed "SU + EU" confusing mess
brave cairn
kinetic mixer no longer exists, gt got rid of its create stuff a while ago
so, the alternator multiblock is also dead, we're switching to the create additions' single block one instead
brave cairn
@coral vault the other extruder mold recipes use tfg-core tag prefix shenanigans which I've already been through the swamp of, and it'll be good to keep everything consistent
if you could move the images and things to the right places + do the other comments, I'll approve your review and handle the rest
(also pls ping me for PRs! github doesn't tell me about them annoyingly)
coral vault
yeah if you know how to do it go for it. Otherwise I can try to figure out how later.
for sure!
brave cairn
should be pretty quick if I do it
unless you want to learn? I'd be more than happy to get another contributor who can do a bit of java lol
coral vault
I wouldnt mind learning, but my java knowledge is pretty low
should I delete the mattock head extruding recipes too? Or are those added manually?
brave cairn
those are done programmatically
I think they're in gregtech's recipes.materials.js?
search how the mace mold is handled
I'm at work rn sorry
coral vault
about to head to work myself. Will look into it when I get home lol
brave cairn
alrighty! I'll look up where the molds are handled in java so you know where to get started
thanks again!
coral vault
thank you! ๐
brave cairn
internet at work is down so I've had a bit of time to think about the primitive create stuff - the main thing I'm trying to figure out now is the "mid to late" part of create
the best I've got is putting a "gate", a single craft that unlocks a bunch of next progression, sort of like how in current tfg, the creosote planks unlock almost all of create
because of the steam machines
so that's one thing, the other I'm thinking of may involve blaze burners
there's also the question of how much create do we even want to require
cuz rn it's literally just a depot/belt and a single deployer
which is probably too little lol
but create is difficult to design progression for because of how intentionally freeform it is, with its main gate also being blaze burners (for its brass)
brave cairn
my other ideas were stuff like, require more create for early circuit boards, or something involving mech crafters (with them being cheaper ofc)
vocal slate
I would suggest leaning heavily on the "factory assembly line" idea that create's circuit building asks for. It's (IMO) far too simple to hand-assemble circuits on a very tiny line of 3-4 deployers (or less!). Require more circuits, more circuit components with their own line requirements, and possibly (sparingly) a % chance to succeed. Stuff that really encourages players to move towards automation. For their first handful of circuits sure they might do it all by switching out items on a single deployer, but that should be sufficiently tedious that nobody will do it for the amount of circuits required to break into LV.
coral vault
I know a lot of players don't really like required create in mod packs though. It fits the theme of the pack very well, but I wouldn't want to force too much.
brave cairn
mm I was also thinking of stuff like, mech press heating recipes to let it weld things, mech mixer heating recipes to do LV mixer metal dust recipes, and then scaling up how much colored steel and other alloys you'd need to do -- but at the same time I don't want to make the crucible alloying stuff completely overshadowed ๐ค
I know people hated colored steel LV casings before, but that was also when they had no good tools between it and doing the alloying by hand
so I guess if you wanted to, you could still rush the LV mixer + arc furnace, or you could take your time and do other stuff instead?
basically instead of the current "LV replaces create", have "LV overlaps with create"
more options = more gooder
then the total gregification begins in MV lol
vocal slate
Another idea I would suggest is making the alternator uh, useable at all. There is (IMO, again) an enormous gap between steam power and MV where there is really nothing to fill the void. Neither the gas turbine generators nor the combustion generators can be reliably fueled. The ULV steam generators are painfully underpowered, and require mass spam to power even single LV generators. The LBB seems like an obvious solution but it is offset by its cost. The alternator running off a create setup (but without requiring multiple stacks of steel) seems like it could fill a niche.
Or even completely throw out the LV electricity options besides the alternator. Maybe it can double as a steam turbine so you can pump steam into it to spin it instead of Rotational Force.
brave cairn
the big alternator multiblock is getting removed because greg's kinetic stuff was also removed -- it'll be replaced by the create additions' single block alternators, which we're gonna configure to generate 1A LV at 256 rpm
and make them similar in cost to the LV steam generators
which will be much easier to scale up instead of "sorry you're locked to only 2A of LV per alternator because there's no bigger dynamos until the MV one"
another thing we could do is just remove the infinite lava stuff because that also makes LBB spam too easy lol
also you have the nether for big lava oceans now anyway
vocal slate
I think the LBB's values could use some tuning in general. For example 1 charcoal has 960x less burn time in the LBB than a low-pressure boiler, while it outputs only 133x more. Or in other words, charcoal in the LBB produces ~7x less energy. Huh?
(Also yes, kill putting lava in the LBB at all.)
brave cairn
I'm pretty sure there were some balance changes since 1.2.x and 1.6.x of gt, I've been meaning to check out the lbb
brave cairn
you can, it was just really inefficient before, needing like 10 coke ovens running constantly for it
brave cairn
it's probably why the lava thing even existed because otherwise it's just so impractical
brave cairn
eh it wasn't too bad, steam scales badly anyway
gloomy elm
I dont know how I feel about forcing Create on players or putting it equivalent
And where would go steam age?
The way I see it TerrafirmaGreg is an hardcore TFC/Gregtech
brave cairn
I mean even tfc has its own create-lite
gloomy elm
I think Gregtech should stay the way it is or just harder
Yeah that are basically bad Create
You could implement harder progress during Steam and LV age that needs Create for example
Or keep Create as a QoL during TFC progression but requiring enormous amount of investment
Because if Create is too good then you will want to skip over Gregtech Steam and LV age
brave cairn
I disagree that gregtech needs to be made harder lol
gloomy elm
Im mainly afraid Gregtech would become to easy if you can use Create
brave cairn
Because if Create is too good then you will want to skip over Gregtech Steam and...
there's still lots of things you'll definitely need steam machines for -- alloy smelter for converting between blocks/nuggets and faster alloying, extractor for rubber, compressor/macerator for the wood boards. Then in LV there's a lot that there just are zero create equivalents of, like chem reactor, electrolyzer, arc furnace, the ore ones...
assembler, circuit assembler, I could go on
gloomy elm
Really depends what you want Create to be able to do
brave cairn
I think a reason a lot of people struggle with LV is because you have to make a ton of machines all at once. No other greg tier is like that
when you go to mv, you end up replacing maybe like, a third of your lv machines minimum?
gloomy elm
Yeah and I preferred when you needed blue and red steel lol
brave cairn
and like, I only made like 3 single block ev machines, that kinda thing
gloomy elm
Depends honestly
brave cairn
so I think using create to "skip" a few simple LV machines is fine -- the create machines won't be much cheaper, just an alternative
like right now the lv lathe is pretty useless because the mech roller exists
gloomy elm
Why not use create in synergy with Steam Age to make TFC late game easier ?
gloomy elm
The issue with create is how it can become stupidly strong
brave cairn
cuz right now it's basically only TFC -> mix of create + steam -> only LV
whereas I'm proposing much more of a blur between each
gloomy elm
If you have some Create process usable for LV