it's a cool material that allows you to make string but it wasn't used for much in base GT from what I remember
#Adding space to TFG
high obsidian
I could use this one for the rocket alloy
calm plinth
I don't think cooking fabric is gonna do much lol
high obsidian
Okay so apparently at the beginning of the space race it was a lot of aluminium and steel and titanium
titanium is out of reach
asbetos was use for isolation
calm plinth
let's just google what some irl rockets use and see if that's something we can use as a starting point to adapt to tfg
high obsidian
so I could go from this one to make the alloy
high obsidian
let's just google what some irl rockets use and see if that's something we can u...
yep got that
Aluminium Steel and Asbetos
all of that we already have
woeful kernel
thankfully there's a ton of info about early spaceflight
high obsidian
then I put some red steel and blue steel for gameplay reasons
woeful kernel
everything between the v-2 rocket and sputnik launch would fit for our purposes here I think
calm plinth
Okay so apparently at the beginning of the space race it was a lot of aluminium ...
that sounds reasonable, maybe make it stainless for HV theming
high obsidian
stainless dust sounds good yeah
calm plinth
blue steel is the "heat resistant" one if you wanna use that for the thrusters maybe?
high obsidian
blue steel is the "heat resistant" one if you wanna use that for the thrusters m...
oooh that's a perfect idea
woeful kernel
blue steel for the thrusters, red steel for the outer shell (because it has to be cold resistant)
or some red steel-aluminium alloy
calm plinth
red steel aluminium alloy sounds neat
high obsidian
the rocket alloy could have red steel/aluminium/stainless steel/asbestos ?
with mainly aluminium
redsteel as a liquid?
calm plinth
I mean asbestos was an insulator and not an alloy
high obsidian
yeah but I wouldn't know where to put it in the recipe
or we accept the idea that we scrap the nasa workbench
woeful kernel
from the smithsonian air and space museum article on the V-2 rocket
high obsidian
and go with an assembler recipe
woeful kernel
(this was supposed to be a ICBM so obviously some stuff is going to be different but it's a cool look into early space launchable rockets)
high obsidian
I don't feel we should go too complex though for the first rocket
It should use a lot of different machines but maybe not too many inputs
woeful kernel
from what i'm reading AlMg (i know that's in the pack but I forgot what it's called) and that red steel-aluminium alloy sounds good as the basic materials
the rest can be pretty simple
calm plinth
yeah but I wouldn't know where to put it in the recipe
I'm fine with scrapping the workbench tbh
woeful kernel
yeah I dunno where the workbench would really fit realistically
you should probably be able to do all this on an assembler anyway so
high obsidian
So let's see:
-Rocket Nose : Eye of ender components and circuits and Polyethylene
-Rocket Alloy : Aluminum Dust/Stainless Steel Dust/Liquid Red Steel smelt in a EBF MV with Ore washer recipe to cool down
-Rocket Fin : Simple plate of Rocket Alloy and PVC?
-Steel Engine and Thruster : Blue Steel and Stainless steel with some components and PVC?
Final recipe in an assembler with Abestos and Silicon?
Question do we wanne make some kind of alloy out of Asbestos and Silicon that we keep expanding on for every rocket tier? Or we just begin with an abestos insulation?
woeful kernel
I think even clay would be fine for the first rocket tbh
high obsidian
Well it's HV so clay is too early same issue as latex if you ask me
Silicon is unlocked at MV
Though I'm not against bringing earlier materials
woeful kernel
hm, maybe silicon is better in that case
calm plinth
fire clay 👿
woeful kernel
that or fibreglass, some mix of the two
high obsidian
fire clay 👿
you know I'm not against it if you propoe ahah
woeful kernel
ideally asbestos and fibreglass would be interchangable since they kind of are already irl as well
high obsidian
I like the fact that your first rocket is made out of amiante lol
woeful kernel
asbestos is just found as ore and fibreglass you can fabricate
calm plinth
So let's see:
-Rocket Nose : Eye of ender components and circuits and Polyethyl...
rocket alloy looks fine but why not just make it a dust mixer recipe like other alloys?
high obsidian
rocket alloy looks fine but why not just make it a dust mixer recipe like other ...
it would be just with a fluid input
oh why
because it's harder lol
calm plinth
yeah I know but it's just weird as an ebf input, all its other fluid inputs are gases iirc
high obsidian
manage your fluids it's hv :p
Oh no I mean
we make the rocket alloy dust in the mixer
then basic ebf recipe
calm plinth
ooh the mixer has the liquid red steel
still a little odd, but less so yeah
remember if you tell GT what the material is made of, it'll generate you recycling recipes and such too
high obsidian
remember if you tell GT what the material is made of, it'll generate you recycli...
I need to learn that I saw the .component
but I don't know how to use it
calm plinth
look at some of our other materials like fluix
high obsidian
Okay I'm getting back to it then
calm plinth
sounds good, I like the idea of letting the player decide between fiberglass and asbestos
high obsidian
We don't have fiber glass but we have the borosilicate fiber glass
should I create a fiber glass?
calm plinth
it's this sorta greenish material
high obsidian
it's Polyvinyl Butyral for Laminated glass
high obsidian
HV plastic only used for laminated glass though
calm plinth
it's the sort of glass on car windows
high obsidian
Oh I see
I guess this one would make more sense for the T2 rocket
Laminated Glass is IV
calm plinth
ah yeah then
I guess you could make your own fibreglass if you want, or we can just use carbon fiber instead, idk
calm plinth
I looked at wikipedia which said fiberglass often uses epoxy so that could be for the EV one maybe
high obsidian
If we keep the same philosophy for each rocket tier that would work yeah
Okay I gonna play around a bit and see how it goes
calm plinth
cool cool
high obsidian
Okay I think I have a good way of making asbestos or fiber glass as alternative
let's kubejs all that
high obsidian
Here we go for the rocket alloy
Also if you want to make your Cleanroom and your Vacuum Cleaner before the Moon you will be able to make your rocket waay faster (Vaccum Cleaner for hot ingot and Perfect OC with Nichrome Coil) BUT you could also make your rocket before and it wouldn't be too slow
Sounds like a good alternative path to me
I nerfed heavily the recipe for the rocket alloy
calm plinth
that looks nice!
iron iron
YOU NEED REFRACTORY MATERIALS FOR THE ROCKET CASING
iron iron
that looks nice!
Refractory metals, which includes metals such as molybdenum, niobium and tantalum, have incredibly high hardness and wear properties. The thermal stability and chemical resistivity of refractory metals makes refractory metals well-suited for use in satellite propulsion systems and other space tech applications.
stray whale
Did you just copy-paste a wiki page?
iron iron
yep
stray whale
Based
iron iron
i was bored to take a screen shot
high obsidian
high obsidian
Refractory metals, which includes metals such as molybdenum, niobium and tantalu...
many metals that could be cool for the T2 rocket
iron iron
how many tiers are you adding?
high obsidian
Well for now we have 5 planets planned but at least 4 tiers
iron iron
will there be interstellar travel?
iron iron
witch one?
high obsidian
Flesh Planet
iron iron
add white dwarfs so and make it so that we can harness neutronium
calm plinth
add white dwarfs so and make it so that we can harness neutronium
yeah I was thinking about letting you just hoover up a neutron star at the very end, as a sort of "congrats, here's your ultimate reward" sort of thing
high obsidian
So here we got liquid silicon and the dust is rocket insulation t1 either vitrified amiante (asbestos in a pyrolise oven) or borosilicate glass dust. I was going to make an other step to transform it into fiber but I think that was enough step (I could add it)
Steel engine takes blue steel now
Didn't modify the thruster
calm plinth
So here we got liquid silicon and the dust is rocket insulation t1 either vitrif...
if it's either the glass dust or aniante, it could just be two recipes instead of needing a tag? unless you plan to add more
high obsidian
if it's either the glass dust or aniante, it could just be two recipes instead o...
I think it looks better with a tag than having two recipes
I'm also thinking we could use the tag for insulation T1 for others stuffs maybe
Taking a lot of Polyethylene so hopefully people have a passive way to make it
iron iron
you should make a recipe for turbo pumps
calm plinth
why liquid silicon for the main rocket btw?
high obsidian
it was written somewhere that it was use for insulation with amiante
And the need for silicon will increase so it's good way to say "Hey get ready to make a lot of silicon"
trying to mix gameplay and a bit of realism
calm plinth
ah ok
iron iron
high obsidian
I don't think we will add more component on the first rocket
iron iron
in general a was saying
you know what would be funny to add for fuel for the tier 1 rocket?
high obsidian
and rocket fin in an easier version
Sounds like a good moment to remember players that they can make the Multi-Smelter as an alloy smelter
rose blade
i always thought abt venus is that itd be incredibly limited vision
calm plinth
I want to experiment with tfc's daily fog thing for mars, then see if I can figure out how to make a sandstorm effect
high obsidian
rose blade
oh yeah thatd be hype
calm plinth
like how sometimes it just sets your render distance to low for a few ingame hours
high obsidian
oh I undestand
rose blade
yeah its really nice when it happens in tundra at night or smt
high obsidian
I'm pretty sure I already encountered "sandstorm" that were lowering the visibility
But I couldn't remember in which modpack
calm plinth
I know weather2 adds it, but it also has snowstorms and tornadoes and all that
and I don't think you can tell it to only go on certain dimensions either
rose blade
id love more advanced weather just so long as i dont have to interact with it
high obsidian
I like stuff like acid rains, true darkness, thunder
but I don't like my base going for a trip in the sky
and my cows and myself following closely behind
rose blade
yeah thunder is so neat esp early game for atmosphere
calm plinth
ad astra does have acid rain on venus
stray whale
i always thought abt venus is that itd be incredibly limited vision
That would be the realistic thing to do. But having constant fog is just annoying and ugly tbh. Especially if we want to incentive people to build bases on each planet
For example imagine trying to find kaolin if you had a render distance of 2
calm plinth
what about the render distance it had before? that's the same as the nether iirc
stray whale
I have no idea what happened with that lol. It just went away, I didn't even change anything
I wonder if it was raining or something, and just not displaying the rain? Idk
calm plinth
did you change the dimension type? one of the things there changes it
stray whale
Nope
calm plinth
huh, weird
stray whale
Also I don't think changing the dimension type is a good idea
Seems to affect the skybox and some of the custom ad_astra properties
If we want to change one value individually we probably have to do a mixin
calm plinth
ah
stray whale
Yet another thing that I think is changed in a newer snapshot 😔
iron iron
looks cheap to me
high obsidian
I agree it's not really expensive but that's the first one so
iron iron
what will the range and what type of minerals we will be able to get from the planets ?
high obsidian
Tier 1 rocket will only get you to the moon I believe
for now moon has vein of certus/bauxite and there gonna be bedrock miner
for copper and tin at least
high obsidian
yeah that too but we have no use for it now
Well I was thinking about making bedrock fluids that are slurry that you can transform into important ores for progression
but dunno
helium 3 could have some use for that
calm plinth
helium could be a slurry I guess
high obsidian
Pyritie how do I add lanfile for space branch?
the tool doesn't have a branch for space
but it says on the kubejs that the file was generated by the lang tool
high obsidian
helium could be a slurry I guess
I may try something around that then
I'm doing my sheets with all the veins and their importance
calm plinth
Pyritie how do I add lanfile for space branch?
it's fine if those just go into dev, nobody can see them ingame
iron iron
for now moon has vein of certus/bauxite and there gonna be bedrock miner
Silicate minerals, composed dominantly of silicon and oxygen, are the most abundant constitutents, making up over 90% by volume of most lunar rocks. The most common silicate minerals are pyroxene, (Ca,Fe,Mg)2Si2O6; plagioclase feldspar, (Ca,Na)(Al,Si)408; and olivine, (Mg,Fe)2SiO4.
stray whale
I mean, that's like exactly the same for the earth
iron iron
steep kestrel
Are these rockets going to be reusable? Or is it a new one every time?
calm plinth
reusable yeah
iron iron
nooooo tier 1 is NOT elon musk level rockets
stray whale
If they were they would cost twice as much and only work half the amount of times
honest heart
nooooo tier 1 is NOT elon musk level rockets
the second we add something even RESEMBLING a space x rocket i'm nuking the entire modpack
calm plinth
high obsidian
Did you change Lunar Sprout colour ?
calm plinth
ye I'm making them all more blue
high obsidian
looks much better
stray whale
not what i was going for... but kinda cool?
calm plinth
looks like it's covered in slime or something lol
stray whale
so are even vanilla rivers hardcoded? 😔 i cant have shit in this game man
calm plinth
hardcoded with fluids or how do you mean?
I think they just use the noise generator's sea level
stray whale
If they do then I'm not really sure how they assign the biome to the generators out put
I guess I could just use the generator to make the features of the river without the actual biome being present
calm plinth
I have no clue either, but what I'm planning on doing for mars is just taking the big list of vanilla biomes and sorta replacing them with my own
keeping all the original placements since that already understands where the rivers are, more or less
then I made a tool called MarsBiomes that would go through that biome list and replace them with my own
(though I'm pretty sure that tool is broken rn, I can fix it up if you want to use it)
if you look at our current mess of a mars, that's why it's got basalt going through its rivers
does that make any sense? 😅
calm plinth
proven kite
DAM GAME PLAY i'm waiting for it
rose blade
i never realised how cool that sound is
calm plinth
I'm guessing it's why they're called chorus!
rose blade
oh damn thats actually smart
vagrant ravine
i dont get it(
calm plinth
made tfg's first configured feature to place these, worked first try 🥲
iron iron
made tfg's first configured feature to place these, worked first try 🥲
are you a coder or smthing?
calm plinth
are you a coder or smthing?
lol
calm plinth
tbf we have different design goals than vanilla
(though I do like that the last mc update added a ton more ground clutter!)
stray whale
are you a coder or smthing?
Nah, we make these telepathically
quick goblet
You're doing some insane work dude
calm plinth
oh lol a lyra
quick goblet
oco
small void
I think you should add some kind of breathing pipe being connector between helmet and tanks that has durability same as Hazmat filter especially for mv tier and can be repaired in assembler using some kind of sealing liquids and if your pipe breaks you die from pulmonary barotrauma.
calm plinth
no
vagrant ravine
I think you should add some kind of breathing pipe being connector between helme...
bro delete Tarkov please
high obsidian
It seems we have the same issue with the oxygen distributor as with the oxygen loader
I can't load gt oxygen in the distributor
it seems to be working if I add back
event.custom({
"type": "ad_astra:oxygen_loading",
"cookingtime": 1,
"energy": 30,
"input": {
"ingredient": {
"fluid": "gtceu:oxygen"
},
"millibuckets": 25
},
"result": {
"fluid": "ad_astra:oxygen",
"millibuckets": 25
}
})
though it works even in a non sealed strcuture
I don't remember if that was the case in new Ad Astra version
calm plinth
I can't load gt oxygen in the distributor
check the ad astra tags file, it should be adding gt oxygen as the ad astra oxygen tag I think
we definitely do not need the ad astra oxygen - I got this working before
high obsidian
I guess i'm not up to date
I'm having an hard time update my branch from space branch
it always compare to dev
calm plinth
is your IDE checking out the wrong branch?
high obsidian
But I did forked it from space though
calm plinth
no it's not
high obsidian
I did that
and right after it's created it compares to dev and not space
see I don't get it
calm plinth
oh, hm
high obsidian
I don't even find my issue on google
except someone but the issue causing it was different from me
apparently it's because the default branch is dev
but why am I the only one having this issue then
I can't even make pr /space to my own branch lol
I don't have permission
stray whale
Yeah my branch is the same. Forked from space, but can only sync from dev
high obsidian
oh atleast i'm not alone lol
I don't understand but it seems to be the same issue
stray whale
Based on the responses, it seems like the poster just did it wrong
But I definitely branched from space. And other branches work fine
high obsidian
I have the same issue with create branch though
stray whale
I haven't made a branch with that yet
high obsidian
I need to recreate a branch to continue adding stuff for the moon
I hate this bug lol
stray whale
I need to recreate a branch to continue adding stuff for the moon
hold on. i think i found a solution
when you go to sync the fork, choose to open the pull request manually and just change the push directory (like this image for pulling from the main to your fork. or the otherway around for making a pull request to the main fork)
so click here to open the pull request
and then make sure these are both on space branches
@calm plinth have you pushed the materials fix for the space branch yet? I was looking for the commit but didnt see it. I am blind as fuck tho
high obsidian
I may be dumb but I cant inverse
stray whale
show pic
calm plinth
<@545532674828271616> have you pushed the materials fix for the space branch yet...
which materials fix?
stray whale
which materials fix?
yknow how before there would be a server error about some gt tag prefix thing? I thought you mentioned before how you fixed it in your branch
stray whale
light mode github is the biggest red flag
high obsidian
high obsidian
light mode github is the biggest red flag
it changes with the time of the day lol
I can't accept it in my own repository and branch
stray whale
uhh
high obsidian
And I don't know how to resolve the conflict 😦
stray whale
you are pushing from your fork onto the main one right?
high obsidian
Maybe because some conflicts are too important and I need to solve them?
stray whale
its weird that you dont have permission to do that tho
high obsidian
And I'm getting a crash while loading a fresh instal of the space branch -_-
Ad astra is giving me error with Create compatibility
stray whale
im working on resolving them for you
high obsidian
but I downgraded Ad Astra
stray whale
you sure you are on .19 ad astra?
high obsidian
yep
stray whale
which one is this supposed to be? what is isolation?
high obsidian
crash during word loading
insulation
isolation is the french word
it's a new tag for the rocket
stray whale
you just had conflicts. Not sure why you dont have permission to resolve them in your own fork but thats github i guess
calm plinth
yknow how before there would be a server error about some gt tag prefix thing? I...
uhhh maybe? I mean I can run the game fine
stray whale
uhhh maybe? I mean I can run the game fine
ill just sync anyways, if i still get it Ill look for a solution 👍
high obsidian
you just had conflicts. Not sure why you dont have permission to resolve them in...
thanks !
I don't get this one
some tfg core issue?
stray whale
did you pakku fetch?
high obsidian
yeah
stray whale
and then after you fetched you deletd the .20 version of ad astra and added the .19 version?
high obsidian
yeah
stray whale
high obsidian
uhuh
stray whale
@calm plinth seems like you may have forgotten to push a change to your chorus plant
the placed features i have is chorus_plant_common/rare
but the configured feature is looking for lunar_chorus_plant
calm plinth
it's looking for a new thing in tfg-core
one moment, lemme finish up something I'm doing with corals...
stray whale
ah, thanks
calm plinth
ah, thanks
try this, I'm still working on finishing these coral things but this should boot
stray whale
try this, I'm still working on finishing these coral things but this should boot
worked, thanks! mb, didnt expect any core changes
high obsidian
So do I still try the Ad Astra file you sent me?
stray whale
yeah
high obsidian
still crashing
the new core mod fixed the issue
I still have your ad astra version though
calm plinth
fun fact: rhyolite and dead coral look really similar lol https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/646085141847998484/1371603198954967170/2025-05-12_22.41.15.png?ex=6823bc85&is=68226b05&hm=02b3e3a3366decc7cfe90af20ff5ddaca79eedc252a52972c1d2e319a0731291&
high obsidian
dead coral looks like aliens weird stuff
calm plinth
...do cave spikes make any sense to have on the moon?
given that stalagtites/mites are usually a "made by water" thing
but then again, so is coral, so
neon sage
high obsidian
I think we should throw realism by the window
but cave spikes could be best kept for venus if we keep the idea of underground planet
calm plinth
I mean we can just add them to every planet
not like I really expect people to go caving on the moon
high obsidian
true there is not much reason
but having huuge cavern with massive stalactites and stalacmites would be awesome on venus would be cool
"Okay you are better off underground but look at this cave system"
calm plinth
lookin goooood
high obsidian
wow it's taking form
calm plinth
need to figure out how to use emissive textures tho
calm plinth
lets you automate the enderarium
they'll both go away whenever that thing's deprecated
high obsidian
ooh
So with Mars is the plan I guess?
the idea was to have it passive as Uraninite doesn't existe infinitely?
calm plinth
nah mars will replace the netherarium, the enderarium is gonna use gas giants probably
high obsidian
So we keep the plutonium method for radon until gas giant after between IV and LuV?
calm plinth
yeah I guess so
high obsidian
well it works the amount isn't crazy until then
and Uranium 235 and 238 will come in great quantities on Mars too
can't do nuclear reactor without using them
maybe we can have a process on mars with Plutonium to ease the radon until the ender air
calm plinth
iirc the main reason to get ender air is for fusion fuel and for xenon
(xenon is used in a couple very very lategame things like neutronium wafers)
naive pumice
nah mars will replace the netherarium, the enderarium is gonna use gas giants pr...
I can't wait to harvest all the hydrogen, helium and deuterium from a Gas Giant
high obsidian
iirc the main reason to get ender air is for fusion fuel and for xenon
I think it's mostly for Radon as you need it for the ender eye, the quantum circuits and every one after them and the quantum star
usually you have to take the plutonium road that isn't much liked
calm plinth
plutonium road is ez tho
high obsidian
Fusion fuels from ender air distilation kinda sux*
naive pumice
Would the Gas Giant be an actual Planet you visit?
high obsidian
plutonium road is ez tho
ah it's not that easy it isn't bad
but it's definitely not the favorite
and you need uraninite
calm plinth
Would the Gas Giant be an actual Planet you visit?
sort of - it'd be a planet, but to visit it you'd need to build a space station kinda thing (ad astra already has this), otherwise it's basically a void world
calm plinth
and you need uraninite
yeah but you don't need it in huge quantities, it's just for making quantum eyes iirc
high obsidian
nah you need it for everything
calm plinth
early on at least
high obsidian
quantum circuit is IV
but well we'll see I'm not against harder processing line ahah
When we will be on nuclear I will bring back the idea :p
we aren't there yet
calm plinth
yeah I imagine the whole quantum stuff will change a fair bit
vagrant ravine
I can't wait to harvest all the hydrogen, helium and deuterium from a Gas Giant
god i want Dyson swarm in this modpack so bad....
calm plinth
the gcyr one was really boring
input a bunch of expensive materials in a magic box which just outputs energy
vagrant ravine
the gcyr one was really boring
yeah. It would be cool, like in that mod video I showed. So that it is displayed on the sun in the game, with small particles in orbit. That would be cool.
vagrant ravine
sort of - it'd be a planet, but to visit it you'd need to build a space station ...
Speaking of which. I don't know if this is feasible, but I have an idea. Is it possible to set different exits for atmosphere collectors depending on the altitude where they are located? To simulate different layers of the atmosphere and their composition🤔🤔🤔
and let's say the closer to the core of the gas giant, the more useful the gases are, but also let's say there is more heat and some additional dangerous effects on the player.🤔🤔🤔
calm plinth
Speaking of which. I don't know if this is feasible, but I have an idea. Is it p...
not without writing some custom greg machine code in java, no
naive pumice
Just make a Beneath for the Gas Giant and add a new air in that dimension 
calm plinth
god no
vagrant ravine
well. In any case, we can make different exits by voltage. For example, simple types suck, but high volt types suck well.
ahahha
naive pumice
you could make a planet composed of different layers of liquids, and use Create Pumps to pump it out of there.
calm plinth
I don't really wanna focus on gas giants too much, they're mostly just ways to get some funny gases, they aren't real "content" planets
otherwise 1.0 will never release lol
vagrant ravine
Well, it's better to have ideas and not use them than to need them but not have them.
vagrant ravine
otherwise 1.0 will never release lol
tomorrow
high obsidian
input a bunch of expensive materials in a magic box which just outputs energy
it put perma night though
that was cool
I guess the best we could do is cool multiblock on the gas giant that output something to process for the air
Pyritie really want TFG to be finished by many
I think it's cool to have a GT pack that can be an introduction to the others longer pack
calm plinth
why bother making content if only a few people are ever gonna experience it?
high obsidian
I get your philosophy and I think it's cool but i'm also happy not everyone have the same
I was really happy first time I finished TFG
I don't finish most of the gt pack I do
so I'm fine with doing it that way
calm plinth
yeah, other packs have their own goals too
after 1.0 is finished we can always add more content if we aren't all dead by then lol
more moons, more fictional planets, idk
high obsidian
definitely at least we will have a solid base
and for every players there will be a first "finish"
calm plinth
though if someone adds a twilight forest planet I am personally going to visit their house and unplug their freezer
high obsidian
I will disavow any contribution at any point ahah
naive pumice
It's pluto :)
high obsidian
Twilight Forst went from one of my favorite mod to a reason to not pick up a pack
calm plinth
part of my distaste is just how it's really badly integrated into like every modpack
high obsidian
because it was always the same way and I don't think I ever played a finish Twilight Forest version
calm plinth
the only time I played it was in minecraft eternal where you needed a bunch of random shit from the end of different mods to go to its own space endgame
and one of them was something from the ur ghast, so I got to fly around with a jetpack one-shotting most of the bosses with the rest of my overpowered gear just to get one stupid item
and there was never any other reason to ever visit TF so
high obsidian
oh that may be one of the worst lol
Enigmatica 2 Expert asked you to kill once every boss
that was okayish
calm plinth
maybe several years from now I'll make a tfc magic modpack instead, lol
high obsidian
I would really be down
maybe on 1.21 as many magic mods and tfc will cross path again on Neoforge
vagrant ravine
after 1.0 is finished we can always add more content if we aren't all dead by th...
lol. "1.0" and "finish" in the same sentence. 😂
Good, good. Are these "updates" and "Tomorrow" in the same room with us now?
snow ember
maybe several years from now I'll make a tfc magic modpack instead, lol
tfc and thaumcraft
i feel like it works because thaumcraft magic is “realistic”
to bad it isnt update anymore
tho i have seen a modernized remake in the works
cold salmon
@calm plinth is unique weather part of the plan?
And new vehicles and stuff
(Maybe changes to solar pannel to scale off planets or smth)
opaque chasm
calm plinth
haha yeah
calm plinth
<@545532674828271616> is unique weather part of the plan?
venus already comes with acid rain and I'd like to see how to give mars sandstorms
calm plinth
And new vehicles and stuff
ad astra comes with one
calm plinth
(Maybe changes to solar pannel to scale off planets or smth)
ad astra comes with this too!
vagrant ravine
Kovarex process?
100%
high obsidian
wdym?
calm plinth
just thinking about how to do crater features
stray whale
just thinking about how to do crater features
Craters aren't always perfectly circular, what if you just made empty lakes?
calm plinth
what kinda lakes? the vanilla "lake" feature isn't very good
so I was thinking of like, making a configured feature in java that would take the rock it was placed on, then dig the sort of bowl shape and add the lip on the edge
but the issue is that features are limited to 3x3 chunks maximum
stray whale
Hmm
calm plinth
so anything bigger would have to be a structure, which then wouldn't be aware of what rock type it was placed on so it couldn't generate a nice lip
stray whale
Is it possible to use a custom height map and do it with world gen?
calm plinth
I'm sure it's possible to do something with the worldgen but I have no idea where to even start with that
stray whale
True, height maps are confusing. I'd have to look through the documentation but I believe you just use the map to generate blocks on the y-axis instead of the x-z like we've done for color noise
high obsidian
yeah crater!
if you succeed
having huuuuuge crater like it's the case on the moon would be so cool
Is there a reason no one can pin except DEVS ?
I'm getting tired of trying to find back the updated core mod file from old Pyritie message lol
calm plinth
just stick it on your desktop or something lol
high obsidian
that's not a bad idea ahah
stray whale
i always ask chatgpt to summarize everything you all ever say, so it rembembers for me
high obsidian
that smarts but it's killing so many penguins ahah
stray whale
not enough imo
high obsidian
😂
calm plinth
fun fact: you can punch the tfc penguins and they just fall over and stay there for a few seconds before getting back up
stray whale
based
high obsidian
I never saw tfc penguins gosh
stray whale
high obsidian
I guess if we aren't progressing LV for a long time I will explore the north
well "long"
calm plinth
bring one home with you
high obsidian
will be done
calm plinth
figured out how to do block waterlogging and the random xz offsets for plants
high obsidian
You don't want water logging to freeze on cold planet?
Okay I noticed the issue with the distelly I'm fixing it right no
calm plinth
You don't want water logging to freeze on cold planet?
ad astra handles it - either it just freezes the block completely, or unwaterlogs it
stray whale
figured out how to do block waterlogging and the random xz offsets for plants
please share xz offset with the class 👀
working on a feature that needs it atm
calm plinth
please share xz offset with the class 👀
I have no idea if it's possible in kjs, but in java it's .offsetType(BlockBehaviour.OffsetType.XZ)
stray whale
thanks, using java so its okay
calm plinth
waterlogging is a bit trickier haha
stray whale
id be more interested in finding out if its possible to waterlog with other fluids, but i think thats beyond us
calm plinth
sea water works
high obsidian
oh that was for everywhere
calm plinth
and it looks easy to add lavalogging as well
high obsidian
I thought that was to specifically enable water logging on the moon
calm plinth
as for custom fluids? I have no idea
stray whale
oh, word?
calm plinth
I'm just copying TFC's homework here lol
I have this in my block class
public static final FluidProperty FLUID = TFCBlockStateProperties.WATER;
and you can use this for lavalogging as well WATER_AND_LAVA
then it looks like they're just made like this?
WATER_AND_LAVA = FluidProperty.create("fluid", Stream.of(Fluids.EMPTY, Fluids.WATER, TFCFluids.SALT_WATER, Fluids.LAVA));
stray whale
huh... maybe if i make the fluid using java i can just add a new one
calm plinth
that's what I was thinking 👀
tbh I can probably push this version of tfg-core to dev, it has no dependencies on any special space stuff yet
stray whale
wont the items it adds be missing models and textures unless you push those too
calm plinth
yeah but we can just hide those for now
stray whale
true
calm plinth
pushed my core changes to space at least
stray whale
do you know why this placed_feature isnt working? ```json
{
"feature": "tfg:venus/surface/stromatolite_tower",
"placement": [
{
"type": "minecraft:count",
"count": 1
},
{
"type": "minecraft:in_square"
},
{
"type": "minecraft:heightmap",
"heightmap": "WORLD_SURFACE"
},
{
"type": "minecraft:height_range",
"height": {
"above_bottom": 56
}
},
{
"type": "minecraft:biome"
}
]
}
It works if I remove the height_range part, but I need it to generate above y-56assuming venus's bedrock is at y=-64, that'll limit it to y=-8 and above
stray whale
ohh the bottom is the world bottom? I though i was defining the y-bottom lol
calm plinth
ahh yeah that means "offset from the bottom of the world"
otherwise the heightmap section is for putting stuff on the surface, if that's what you intended?
stray whale
kinda wish the helper tool had explanations for everything, but oh well. Ill just keep trying to understand the wiki pages
high obsidian
Do you guys have a trick to find different layers when testing ore generation?
Oh
I guess I can easily find top layer but idk about bottom and mid layers
I guess it's time to refresh my tfc geology lessons
calm plinth
damn, geodes with the noise_multiplier turned up can get you some weird shapes
...and maybe also some weird chunk generation issues
vagrant ravine
damn, geodes with the `noise_multiplier` turned up can get you some weird shapes
if you change the material, you can imagine that it's a remnant of an asteroid or something.
vagrant ravine
...and maybe also some weird chunk generation issues
It looks like dreams at a temperature of 38
calm plinth
It looks like dreams at a temperature of 38
what
vagrant ravine
what
Well, when you're sick and you sleep with a high fever, dreams can be.... very strange.
and chaotic
calm plinth
oh, I guess the english term is "fever dream"
vagrant ravine
oh, I guess the english term is "fever dream"
yeah
rich ruin
It looks like dreams at a temperature of 38
Я так парню про мем про колено из скайрима рассказал на английском он вообще не выкупил
vagrant ravine
Я так парню про мем про колено из скайрима рассказал на английском он вообще не ...
но скайрим же на английском в оригинале и есть....
rich ruin
В любом случае я ему так обьяснил что он нврн меня долбаебом посчитал
calm plinth
anyone here good with math who wants to help make an algorithm to carve out these craters? 😂
calm plinth
high obsidian
now that I think about this look glorious for a sci fi planet
calm plinth
it does look very weird but it also makes the world gen very slow haha
high obsidian
ah that's definitely a problem too bad
calm plinth
I'm sure it could be implemented better, instead of through geode features
stray whale
they look like garnets
calm plinth
stray whale
babe wake up, they added the balls dimension to minecraft
vagrant ravine
<:thonk:918066159612465192>
I think you forgot the minus sign in the crater equation.
calm plinth
the moon has now been cheesed up
I think that's about as good as we're gonna get without delving deep into worldgen code or custom feature math
stray whale
niceee
calm plinth
thank you geodes for basically being a very customizable metaball feature
stray whale
spaghetti and meatball planet soon
stray whale
devous plans at play
why is java actually so nice? working with json made me appreciate real coding again
calm plinth
lol is it really that bad?
stray whale
i HATE json 😭 whats that? added an extra variable? your game crashed. Will we tell you why? no
calm plinth
what's that? intellij let you build a jar file that doesn't even compile and it doesn't tell you? and you only find out later that "something is vaguely wrong" in your mc error log?
I'm not happy with either of these 😭
stray whale
true. im waiting for them to give us funny pills that let us hallucinate our games
calm plinth
damn AI gets to hallucinate without me 😢
calm plinth
btw @high obsidian I played around with the space suit, you can put gt oxygen in it fine - as long as you're in survival mode. Using it like a bucket doesn't seem to work in creative for whatever reason
stray whale
btw @calm plinth not sure if you changed it on your build yet, but your item textures are rendering the block. You can just change the item model to use the block texture like this: ```json
{
"parent": "minecraft:item/generated",
"textures": {
"layer0": "tfg:block/lunar_roots"
}
}
stray whale
Venus Delta
rich ruin
**Venus Delta**
Looks like a good place to make base
calm plinth
btw <@545532674828271616> not sure if you changed it on your build yet, but your...
oops no I didn't
btw, you wouldn't happen to know how to make textures emissive, would you?
calm plinth
**Venus Delta**
looking spicy! is that a yellow fluid on the left or just the sand?
stray whale
oops no I didn't
btw, you wouldn't happen to know how to make textures emissive...
Been a while but I believe you just have to put "_e" at the end of the file name. If you only want one part of the texture to be emissive you will need to use layers
stray whale
looking spicy! is that a yellow fluid on the left or just the sand?
Yellow sand, with a clearish gas used as the "ocean fluid"
calm plinth
a gas?
stray whale
When I did emmisives before I used moremcmeta so that I could add them to a lot more things https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/mc-mods/moremcmeta
calm plinth
Been a while but I believe you just have to put "_e" at the end of the file name...
oh hm I might be missing the layers then
stray whale
a gas?
A new custom liquid called "sulfuric fumes" right now it mostly just behaves like water, but I'll probably write some java code to make it not have any collision so you don't swim through it. Just kind of blocks your view like fog
Will be used to extract some fun chemicals and distill into water vapor
calm plinth
ah hmm
stray whale
When I did emmisives before I used moremcmeta so that I could add them to a lot ...
Hmm, actually we might need the mods. I'm not sure if forge has built in support without something like OptiFine
calm plinth
curious but why not actual liquid? or is venus just too damn hot for that
stray whale
I mostly just wanted to give off a feeling that all the sulfur is giving off toxic fumes you have to walk through. There are other types of fluids addes
calm plinth
Hmm, actually we might need the mods. I'm not sure if forge has built in support...
I tried to look at how other blocks like ad astra's or simply lights and so on have their emissives set up but I couldn't even see any second layers in their model, so I'm a bit lost lol
stray whale
If you can't figure it out I'll look into it tomorrow. But it's gregnight for me unfortunately
stray whale
high obsidian
btw <@100017347233857536> I played around with the space suit, you can put gt ox...
oh really it doesn't work in creative? but yeah is there an other way than to use it as a bucket?
that's the only way I found to fill it
calm plinth
I mean ad astra has a machine that'll fill it for you I guess
calm plinth
didn't seem to work when I tried it but I might've bungled something up with it
high obsidian
I had to add the recipe to transform oxygen gt to oxygen ad astra
but it wouldn't fill the suit anyway
would fill the tank though 🤷♂️
anyway we don't need the oxygen loader do we
calm plinth
I'm guessing some things are specifically looking for the ad astra oxygen fluid while others are looking for anything tagged as oxygen
high obsidian
I guess yeah
calm plinth
anyway we don't need the oxygen loader do we
no, the bucket thing works fine
high obsidian
did you check if the oxygen distributor worked?
I had to add the same recipe as the oxygen loader to make it works
calm plinth
you can fill air tanks that way too, and "drink" them to fill your oxygen while your suit is equipped
high obsidian
I put the Giselle addon can in the quest as this one comes as a curio
sounds better
especially with how oxygen goes down fast
calm plinth
did you check if the oxygen distributor worked?
they worked with GT oxygen when I was testing stuff back in jan/feb, haven't tried since
high obsidian
hummm
well we'll see if it doesn't work we can just add the recipe from the oxygen loader back
calm plinth
I put the Giselle addon can in the quest as this one comes as a curio
yep that's the main benefit of those - I think the actual sizes of these containers is configurable too. I agree they feel too small at the moment
calm plinth
well we'll see if it doesn't work we can just add the recipe from the oxygen loa...
oxygen loader isn't needed for the spreader to work
high obsidian
because we don't offer any teleportation we may need to have a pass on the tank size I guess
high obsidian
oxygen loader isn't needed for the spreader to work
it's the same recipe
weirdly enough
calm plinth
🤔
high obsidian
that's how I made it work when I tested it
Didn't find any oxygen distributor recipe so I tried with the loader one
and it worked lol
calm plinth
hmm I'll try again when I'm home, I'm pretty sure it was just a creative tank of GT oxygen pumping into the spreader, worked fine for me
high obsidian
{
"type": "ad_astra:oxygen_loading",
"cookingtime": 1,
"energy": 30,
"input": {
"ingredient": {
"fluid": "gtceu:oxygen"
},
"millibuckets": 25
},
"result": {
"fluid": "ad_astra:oxygen",
"millibuckets": 25
}
}
it wasn't working for me on a recent build
I added this
well
this*
and then it worked
calm plinth
it shouldn't need a recipe, having the gt oxygen tagged with the ad astra tag was enough to get it to work for me back then
high obsidian
Maybe the tag was remove
calm plinth
high obsidian
we'll see I didn't play around with the tag
calm plinth
yeah I'll check when I'm home
I wish the ad astra oxygen gui was smaller, why is it so damn big!!
I know there's an option to resize it and move it around but that resizes the text too
hm, maybe it's a texture we could overwrite with a transparent png lol
high obsidian
I guess that's a possibility
I understand that it's big as it's quite vital
but as we will spend a lot of time in space
that can be cluterring
calm plinth
yeah but like, half as big as the minimap?
imo it'd be fine as a number above where the HP is
high obsidian
oh yeah
or a double bar over the xp one
that would be cool
btw is the moon still hot?
I was averaging around 100C
calm plinth
it varies wildly depending on the time of day, just like the moon irl
I haven't implemented space suit ambiental compat yet tho
high obsidian
it varies wildly depending on the time of day, just like the moon irl
really I didn't know it could be hot on the moon
oh 127C max on the equator during the day
high obsidian
yeah I guess
Btw I'm progressing through the ores veins
my excel sheet is getting better
I should pr a first concept today or tomorrow (today may be quite busy)
calm plinth
okie doke
high obsidian
To test the vein generation I can run the language merger and I will get some files I put in the instance?
okay I can't run the tool
my mac thinks it's a text file lol
calm plinth
the ore veins one is a different tool
ores to field guide
and hm yeah you'd probably have to set up a build configuration for mac 🤔 never done that before so idk the steps by heart
high obsidian
I will test it manually by doing random things in the kubejs I guess
stray whale
@calm plinth so emmisive textures are not doable in 1.20 they added vanilla integration in 1.21 😅 We will either have to use java code, or download the moremcmeta mods (which I do recommend)
calm plinth
😩 then how do these other blocks do it argh
well its fine, how do you do it in java code then? since these are java blocks
stray whale
Sorry, I meant it isnt possible with resource packs, not that it is impossible lol
calm plinth
ooh ok
stray whale
I would look at the java code for the redstone ore block to see how its done there
calm plinth
alrighty!
calm plinth
@high obsidian I still swear that it worked before, but hey, that recipe works! and the cool thing is, we can give it whatever fluid we want to convert into "breathable air" if we want to rename the ad astra oxygen to that, as well as configure the amount so it's not 1:1
for example, since gregtech oxygen can be slow to electrolyze, something like 1mb gt oxygen to 100mb ad astra air
(it looks like the distributor uses 4mb/t if it isn't in an enclosed space, or 1mb/t in a smaller 5x4x7 room I made)
... what should we rename it to?
Breathable Air?
Artificial Atmosphere?
woeful kernel
don't divers have specific names for their breathable gas mixtures or something I remember reading about that
astronauts are probably similar I haven't looked too much into it
calm plinth
Gas blending for scuba diving (or gas mixing) is the filling of diving cylinders with non-air breathing gases such as nitrox, trimix and heliox.
- nitrox: <78% nitrogen, the rest oxygen
- trimix: apparently there's a lot of variations but it's a mix of oxygen, helium, and nitrogen
- heliox: 79% helium and 21% oxygen
that last one looks very interesting for the moon since there's so little nitrogen but lots of helium-3
hmm maybe could do something like:
rock breaker etc to get moon stone dust, centrifuge the dust for helium 3, do something to it to get regular helium, mix it with oxygen (from other silicates) to get your atmosphere
stray whale
I'm pretty sure those are all trademarked. But do we care?
calm plinth
so is invar, so no 
hm, we'll have to see how ad astra actually works, because if it's specifically only allowing #forge:oxygen in its space suits, then that'll mess with this
but if it uses any fluid you're able to fill it with, then maybe...?
next zinc
After completing the moon as a planet, can you use it like a template for other planets, and that will help you to do space sooner?
stray whale
Mostly, yes. But also we want every planet to be unique, and with our current plans copy-paste only goes so far
calm plinth
yeah, to do space we have to do 3 things:
- actually make the planets
- add compat between ad astra and the rest of the mods
- integrate the planet into progression
#2 only has to be done once
and after each planet we learn more about how to do worldgen, so #1 goes faster. I basically just redid the moon's worldgen this week with what I've learnt from the beneath and it looks much nicer (and went faster too!)
high obsidian
for example, since gregtech oxygen can be slow to electrolyze, something like 1m...
Oxygen isn’t slow at HV though but we can have the recipe really low if we want as I don’t think there should be much gameplay involved into running the oxygen distributor
high obsidian
hmm maybe could do something like:
rock breaker etc to get moon stone dust, cent...
I mean why not that would be easy to passive at least
Im all for new processing line
And we don’t allow pure oxygen?
calm plinth
Oxygen isn’t slow at HV though but we can have the recipe really low if we want ...
it isn't, but also given the lack of fuel on the moon, you're kinda limited to solar which means you might be more interested in the lower tier machines (or underclocking)
calm plinth
And we don’t allow pure oxygen?
whatever's best for gameplay!
cold salmon
it isn't, but also given the lack of fuel on the moon, you're kinda limited to s...
Can we add AC units
calm plinth
Can we add AC units
they already exist just use blue ice
high obsidian
whatever's best for gameplay!
Sounds good to me
calm plinth
Add AC units 😊
no ❤️
high obsidian
https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-pee-funny-cat-gif-436236211739437212
Make a mod for AC with Ambiental 👌
Consuming energy and all
summer python
pure oxygen is dangerous 2 ways, its toxic in high concentration and any flame can go crazy really fast
cold salmon
Make a mod for AC with Ambiental 👌
Yk what I’ll learn it just to see if I can
calm plinth
Yk what I’ll learn it just to see if I can
ambiental code is in tfg-core btw
honest heart
flesh balls
also
real fuckin question
can i add doom demons to the flesh planet
calm plinth
only if they fit minecraft art style and aren't like lycanites
calm plinth
they are also hostile and not passive :)
and they spawn little 1hp minions too
tbh the moon could use a little more mob variety
high obsidian
It could be okay to not have too many
calm plinth
I think I've only got like... 7?
high obsidian
as it's the first space destination
calm plinth
8 if you include rabbits
high obsidian
sounds already enough
calm plinth
zombie lunarians, the starfish things, limpets, endermen, those guys in the pic, a different taller enderman, and endermites
high obsidian
Okay after some fidgeting I found some good rates for the bedrock miner
high obsidian
zombie lunarians, the starfish things, limpets, endermen, those guys in the pic,...
is your last version of the moon on github yet?
calm plinth
I think it's all synced up yeah
I'm mostly done with the worldgen, just want to add some last little bits of deco and fiddle with mob placement a bit
high obsidian
going to have a look
on my version I was missing one biome from usual moon
the sandy desert as it is in vanilla ad astra
calm plinth
lunar wastelands or whatever it was called? I'm not using any of the ad astra biomes
high obsidian
I don't rememeber the name but yeah the idea to have some desert with the dust (that could be sand)
i mean it's very personnal but I like this one feels peaceful
calm plinth
oh that kind of missing
I thought you meant your game was sending errors about it not being there
right now there's 9 moon biomes
4 "main" ones, and then 5 to act as blending between them
the "middle" one, lunar plains, right now has a bit of a mix, but I could probably make that one less "busy"
make it more sandy
high obsidian
the "middle" one, lunar plains, right now has a bit of a mix, but I could probab...
let me check on the last version
could be cool if you feel it can be nicely integrated
calm plinth
ye I can give it a try
I wanted to add some layered moon dust blocks anyway, like I did with wood ash in the beneath
honest heart
only if they fit minecraft art style and aren't like lycanites
Lycacringe
cold salmon
tbh the moon could use a little more mob variety
Can we have cheese creepers as a meme?
When killed they drop moon cheese (not sure what you can do with it but hey)
cold salmon
I wanted to add some layered moon dust blocks anyway, like I did with wood ash i...
Are you gonna make it so craters will have their own ores in small quantities?
calm plinth
Are you gonna make it so craters will have their own ores in small quantities?
I put a single block of "meteoric iron" in some of them yeah, mine it for a bunch of raw iron ore
nothing fancy but it adds a little flavour
high obsidian
I'm trying to look for the mod for indestructible rocket but I can't find it
And it seems there is a weird bug with Bedrock veins
they sometime don't show on the first scan
cold salmon
I put a single block of "meteoric iron" in some of them yeah, mine it for a bunc...
Make the “aliens” on mars green and have big heads
Lol
high obsidian
Oh nice
Would have been great if that was an upgrade but I think without teleportation this one is indispensable
next zinc
How about a new special alloy in HV/EV, that is needed for crafting space materials(like rocket parts, suit and other)?
high obsidian
it's done 🙂
I used the recipe from the large miner as a model
it needs IV so it's locked behind cleanroom
doable at hv
next zinc
What is that gear made of?
high obsidian
What is that gear made of?
that's blue steel
thought it was funny to bring it back again
next zinc
I think bedrock miner should be crafter in EV or iv. In my opinion and vision of gregtech it should be: bedrock miner higher on one voltage stage than usual multiblock miner. First multiblock miner - HV/EV, first bedrock miner - EV/IV
But that is only my opinion
high obsidian
the first bedrock miner is MV/Hv
that's why I put it on HV to craft
If we change the energy tier we may change the tier to craft it
last one is zpm though
so idk will see what the others think about it
next zinc
I saw in one gregtech modpack that vein have one unbreakable ore block, and you can use a special miner to produce an infinite amount of ore from it
And I think it is a good idei
And bedrock miner have something mutual with that
high obsidian
Hmmmm
Is it possible that there is invisible rain on the moon?
I'm getting some weird explosion sometime
high obsidian
I tried something based on SoG for solar on the moon
I just have an issue it seems I can't get a .daytime and a .dimension condition at the same time...
calm plinth
I said we can just use the ad astra solar...
and for a large solar panel it's very small 😛
do the bedrock miners need drilling fluid btw?
calm plinth
Is it possible that there is invisible rain on the moon?
it's possible I guess, we might have to do a mixin to only have explosions on the overworld or whatever
next zinc
do the bedrock miners need drilling fluid btw?
Iirc it can consume, but not require
Last used in gtcpm after latest patch
high obsidian
I said we can just use the ad astra solar...
Oh no I know I just had time and really wanted to try
high obsidian
it's possible I guess, we might have to do a mixin to only have explosions on th...
I didn’t have it again but I’m pretty sure that’s the only possibility
high obsidian
do the bedrock miners need drilling fluid btw?
I didn’t find the config option for it so it doesn’t right now
calm plinth
I didn’t find the config option for it so it doesn’t right now
that's fine! I just haven't tried building one before so I didn't know
high obsidian
What was your idea Pyritie shall we publish the moon and mars at the same time or you would like to get the moon out asap?
If you fixed this ad Astra issue
calm plinth
personally I'm fine with just the moon by itself, mars is still a long way off
high obsidian
yeah I don't know I guess it could be a first test to see how people reacts to space
event.recipes.gtceu.large_solar_panel('solar_power_test')
.circuit(2)
.notConsumable(InputItem.of('ad_astra:solar_panel'))
.duration(200)
.daytime(true)
.dimension('ad_astra:moon')
.EUt(-4*GTValues.V[GTValues.ULV])
If I have both .daytime and .dimension at the same time
it crashes
but both works separately
that's really weird
I asked on GT discord that's out of my scope to understand
high obsidian
For a new bedrock vein I have
-Mica vein with Kyanite (Talc, Silicon and Aluminium), Mica (Potassium, Silicon, Aluminium AND a bit of Fluorine) and Pollucite (Caesium, Aluminium and Potassium)
-Topaz with Topaz (Aluminium, Silicon and Fluorine) and Blue Topaz (same)
-Lapis with basically Aluminium, Silicon, Calcium, Sodium, Chlorine and Iron
I'm more in favor of Mica vein for the small amount of fluorine while still being a bit more complex
Lapis is also a good one to be fair and it has chlorine
Caesium doesn't have much use right now but I would like to use it for tier 2 rocket as it's apparently a metal heavily used for electronics
so that would fit having a bedrock mica vein
calm plinth
mica sounds good! then later on we can have a better fluorine vein
tbh we can probably replace some of the random vanilla items like eyes of ender and nether stars with our own made up electronics
caesium could work for that
high obsidian
that would be cool down the line
maybe we will begin to work on that during mars dev
calm plinth
sounds good
high obsidian
okay now it's time to finish my work on the veins
how do you feel about all the ores added for the nether prior to you
They don't serve much purpose I don't know what was the idea behind them
maybe just more exotic names?
calm plinth
yeah mostly just to have something different
armalcolite I want to keep moon exclusive, look at its wikipedia page to see why
high obsidian
I think ores in Gregtech is already pretty confusing, I'm not sure if it's such a good idea to add duplicates
let's see
calm plinth
tbh I don't mind just deleting some of the new ones I did
high obsidian
oh i see
Armalcolite has an historical aspect
well I think it's fine for some like armalcolite that has a "lore" and will be part of the bauxite/alu/ilmenite vein anyway
but for ore processing and clarity reasons we should limit I think the number we add
calm plinth
sure yeah
what do you think about the ad astra ores like desh? they're fantasy so we can give them whatever formula we want
high obsidian
yeah I think we could make them fit? especially in mars if we create new lines
desh historically is used for rocket tier 3 right
could use if for that and give it a composition so it also has more uses
calm plinth
iirc it's normally desh from the moon, the red one from mars, the purple one from venus, and uh I don't think the last one was used anywhere
calm plinth
yeah that's it
obviously we want more than just "mine here to go to the next planet" but I think it's fine to keep them as materials
high obsidian
Ostrum could easily become Osmium
calm plinth
integrate them properly with rich and poor ores and a chemical formula and all that
hmm Venus is IV and you're still finishing up the platline at that point
calm plinth
yeah, could work on the luv planet tho
high obsidian
We are free to move around Ad astra ores so it could work
platline is really slow and usually you get some bypass at some points
so that could work for us
for now this is where i'm going for the overworld
red is removing
yellow is reducing
I removed aluminium because bauxite processing may be coming in base gtm from what I read
calm plinth
platline is really slow and usually you get some bypass at some points
I'm fine with putting platline stuff on the tier after, so you still have to go through the platline a bit, but then can skip parts later
high obsidian
platline definitely needs time to shine as it's one of the best line from base gt
calm plinth
for now this is where i'm going for the overworld
- it's ok to just remove the whole ilmenite/alum/bauxite vein
- why tantalite? you need it for SMD components which is MV
- keep regular quartzite + barium around, maybe with like, 5% nether quartz or something lol
rest is fine imo
high obsidian
- it's ok to just remove the whole ilmenite/alum/bauxite vein
- why tantalite? y...
-perfect I'm all down to remove ilmenite/bauxite
-Tantalite is not needed but if you use it, it gives a better ratio so I think as it's alternatives recipes it's a good reward for later on (you also need tantalum for large multiblock)
-quartzite can give you certus though
Maybe I can change the quartzite giving certus I never tried to touch at ore processing idk how it works
can have bigger tantalite in moon veins though
as a first incentive to mine on the moon
calm plinth
you can also get tantalite from lava so I don't think we need to gate it
more tantalite on the moon would be cool though
calm plinth
I can take a look at how to change the byproducts of different ores
high obsidian
if you do i would be curious to understand how you did
calm plinth
need to look at GT source code to figure it out lol
high obsidian
uuuh
calm plinth
poke me in a couple hours and I can show you
high obsidian
sounds good thanks
calm plinth
armalcolite I want to keep moon exclusive, look at its wikipedia page to see why
I just looked at the page and it mentions tranquillityite, another moon mineral that has zirconium 🤔
high obsidian
Tranquillityite except being terribly hard to pronounce has a lot of composants
(Fe2+,Ca)8(Zr,Y)2Ti3(SiO4)3O4
good lord
calm plinth
I think someone a while ago said zirconium is used for quantum circuits irl and they posted a whole processing diagram
so.. not something that's moon relevant, but still
high obsidian
Yttrium is also a end game material
Well this one could be interesting
I woooonder if we could implement it and keep the Zr, Y unprocessable until later in the game
calm plinth
I woooonder if we could implement it and keep the Zr, Y unprocessable until late...
could gate it to higher tier EBFs
high obsidian
oh we could
high obsidian
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zirconium#Space_and_aeronautic_industries
Damn that works for space AND nuclear
Idk why but I feel I already encountered Zirconium in a Gt pack
maybe Star T I don't remember
You know we could even add zirconium processing line into nuclear on mars
for the rockets and others stuffs
calm plinth
apparently zircon is also a pretty common mineral on earth as well, but hey
high obsidian
uhuh realism ends where gameplay begins :p
calm plinth
yep lol
high obsidian
"Hydrolysis is very slow below 100 °C, but rapid at temperature above 900 °C. Most metals undergo similar reactions. The redox reaction is relevant to the instability of fuel assemblies at high temperatures.[58] This reaction occurred in the reactors 1, 2 and 3 of the Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant (Japan) after the reactor cooling was interrupted by the earthquake and tsunami disaster of March 11, 2011, leading to the Fukushima I nuclear accidents."
Uhuh so Zirconium had a part lol
calm plinth
found it
high obsidian
oh that's the kind of processing line I like
calm plinth
lol I figured
high obsidian
such a cool generation
we don't see much lol
Well gonna make a bug report for my issue
Hope someone will take a look
calm plinth
I can't see anything lol
calm plinth
bro just put on some night vis goggles 😭
high obsidian
That's the smartest move I guess
stray whale
/effect @p minecraft:night_vision infinite 1 true
high obsidian
stray whale
Moon 👍
high obsidian
btw with Euphoria Patches there isn't any clouds in space
looks really enderesque though
stray whale
Space shouldn't have clouds lol
calm plinth
well, not the moon at least
high obsidian
Space shouldn't have clouds lol
I agree but with Complementary we have
though I guess that shouldn't be too difficult to modify
calm plinth
calm plinth
it's what I use to get my nice pics
calm plinth
look at this cutie 😦
if you do manage to get something working, what about a multiblock that's just a big square of the solar panels? lol
high obsidian
I thought about that at the beginning lol
but I didn't want people to actually use the solar pannel on the multiblock
this looks awesome lol
high obsidian
maybe with a placeholder though it sounds a bit finicky
calm plinth
the zigzags make it look solar tho!
though if you really wanted we can just make you a solar block lol
calm plinth
Using the same texture?
sure, or something similar
high obsidian
oh with glass block?
I could try though nothing would beat the amazing ad astra texture
calm plinth
I'm not really a fan of the stained glass tbh
high obsidian
yeah me neither
well I will put that in hold and see if we get an elegant solution
for now we could limit it to moon dimension but it would work at night so
calm plinth
yeah let's see if there's a fix for your issue first
stray whale
I think euphoria is supposed to have compatibility with ad astra. I've seen clouds on Venus before, but it seems to fluctuate
high obsidian
there is compatibility with Ad Astra and TFC
no issues with water though not all the vegetation is moving
I guess they missed quite a lot of plants
rose blade
is 096 still being cleared by curseforge?
calm plinth
ye
high obsidian
for the moon
so ideally I would reduce tungstate/scheelite and all
but that wouldn't be a good idea before mars is out
it's a bother I can't run the ore tool I have to enter the value manualy to test
high obsidian
that would be cool if you have the time!
calm plinth
sure, I'm not doing much rn
high obsidian
thanks!
calm plinth
lemme download the .net osx sdk