Relaunch Economy is COOKED ALREADY..

[rough crest]

Is it just me, or are some of you actually trying to argue that the relaunch economy is healthy? Because if you are, you’re straight up tripping. We’re only a week in and the inflation is already hitting terminal velocity.
​Just look at these price jumps over the last few days:

Item Old Price Current Price Jump
Demon Black Wings 7k -> 25k +257%
Soda Jetpack 27k -> 64k +137%
Dark Pixel 60k -> 200k +233%
Blue Dragon 4k -> 14k +250%

​"But the early days of the original game were the same!"

​Stop right there. Please don't even try to compare the two. Early PW didn't have mines or the Nether. The economy was built on World Locks; it was stable, slow. What we’re seeing right now is a total circus.
​To the people saying the economy is "doing great" are we even playing the same game? 🤣🤣 Items tripling in value in seven days is the definition of "not normal."

​How are new players even supposed to keep up with this? Would love to hear how anyone thinks this is sustainable.

[runic python]

Hey! I'll get back to you in a bit, hold tight.

The relaunch of Pixel Worlds aims to create a fair and stable in-game economy by implementing changes such as limiting accounts to a single active session to reduce exploits and item duplication. However, rapid price increases in items like Demon Black Wings and Soda Jetpack suggest significant inflation, which can be challenging for new players. The game rules emphasize fair play and discourage exploiting bugs or using third-party tools, which are crucial for maintaining economic stability. While the current situation may seem unstable, these measures are intended to support a balanced environment long-term. If you have concerns about specific economic issues, consider discussing them with the community or support for further insights.

Sources:

• Article: Unable to logout of my account
• Article: Game Rules

[rough crest]

I don't get how all this bc getting into the game already and every single item I listed has orders set on it.. and ratio of time spent to reward for each type grind don't add up with prices of items

[obtuse breach]

massive online like 10x of past and a lot of p2w players

[unkempt ibex]

Hey! I talk a bit in this thread about the current state of the market, and how it needs to be taken into consideration going forward #1492157044046827690

[rough crest]

I mean tbf I'd love to see past sales be more detailed

[vernal hull]

its mostly due to the fact that ppl are panick buying bunnynator set because in the description it said “2026 easter item” so the assumption being made is that its a limited time item. other items rising in prices is a consequence of gem prices increasing and players actively dumping all of it on easter packs

[unkempt ibex]

Yeah! I’d argue that the information available on regarding recent sale are not nearly enough for players to make a rational decision regarding the item. And there are many risks in this limiting design as well, such the market being way easier to manipulate through perceived value of items on PWE

[polar nova]

I mean limited time stuff going big early just seemed like an inevitable thing. They alr r account for like its worth later on the run

[rough crest]

It's just not logical like idk what to do anymore I'm f2p and been playing since relaunch and my entire networth is 40k bc everything just so damn expensive and no matter how much I grind its just low

[unkempt ibex]

Ordinary players are left behind, and grinding (literally playing the game) becomes obsolete

[polar nova]

I’m f2p n want the high priced stuff too… we just unlucky man :[ it’s gonna b hard for us

[rough crest]

Limited time stuff can go up wouldn't argue with that due to demand but stuff from shop shooting up in price just bother me like istg grinding nether lvl 3 and only making 3k bc per hour this won't cut it

[obtuse breach]

do nether and quests or anything that is cheap for level - get good fishing gear or mining - work - sell

[polar nova]

Yea def understandable :[ also tbh ur grinding rate seems so gud (im a bit slower)

[rough crest]

I am bro it's just as I said the time spent to reward ratio ain't working for how this economy prices are if you saying I need higher gear and level I'm trying I'm lvl 28 atm I got no idea how people reached lvl 80 already like wth I heard people p2w players this time are way more than before but like still with how it looks like there are duped bc in the economy or some blackmarket cuz some dude I saw had 150 dark pixe EVEN if you whale highly doubt anyone would go this far while being legit cuz no point like i bet 500k bc is enough to buy max gear for any type of grind

[vast forge]

I felt so close to being able to own a Plasma Jetpack again, yet now It feels like a distant dream (my networth is 30k bc) 😭

[upbeat pilot]

Just gamble and hope you get lucky

[rough crest]

YEEE SEE ISTG so many people feels the same on how everything shot up so high to where you can never catch up normally grinding 😭 like how the hell are we supposed to buy stuff like this and keeps going up non stop

Egg hunter staff being 1mil bc is diabolical wtf.

[vernal hull]

thats not bad for early game income, you just gotta get to lv5 nether where each exit is +500 gems and +50 crystals

[tepid gust]

Watch it drop as soon as the event ends, for example the bunnynator shoes been for 10k for a bit then dropped to 8k-9k quickly. People wanted to profit from it but it kept dropping lmao. Same thing will happen to every easter item

[vast forge]

WLs were some kind of Gold Standard to keep BC stable
nowadays we only have the Gem <-> BC conversion ratio

[rough crest]

See it's always this argument of you need to reach higher level bro the grind isn't short like what am i supposed to buy to feel like I'm doing progress to look cooler own nice items it's just as I said time spent to reward ratio is very bad you can't even buy swords the jumps are stupid like 10-20levels to get better weapon

[obtuse breach]

how are you supposed to pay real money to get xp?
people grind all day everyday to get to that high levels bro
my friend is f2p and is lvl 50 in 4 days from 0

[upbeat pilot]

afk at nether exit and wait for others to get all keys,

[vernal hull]

but early game isn’t about buying or trying to look cool, it’s just grinding to reach the part where the game actually pays you back

[rough crest]

People buy bc then buy butterfly for xp? You didn't know you can p2w levels lol alot of people does that 😭

[vast forge]

when did Bronze keys go from 50 to 80? ._.

[obtuse breach]

wont get u more than 20 levels

[rough crest]

And that I'd assume in more than 7days of playing yea dude atp I'd rather not play if it takes this long to reach what so called game pays you back for your effort it just doesn't make sense to not reward players at early stages

@obtuse breach a single butterfly can give you 6k+ xp even more so no it depends on hard you wanna p2w the levels

[unkempt ibex]

It's not about bad luck! It's, among many things, about flaws in the extents that players are allowed to observe the market. The more limited the overview is, the more easily manipulated the market becomes.

[tepid gust]

Not everyone play for 8 hours a day to reach level 50 in 4 days

[obtuse breach]

c'mon bro, you're definitely overreacting on that situation at this point
those who rich are rich everywhere, these rich people dont affect your life and your gameplay a lot, if you want to be cool as they are, reserve some time and grind bro, no one told you that game will be easy for those who have empty pocket like us

@tepid gust then what's the problem? do you expect getting levels and currencies easy af?

[unkempt ibex]

Why are you downplaying their concern?

[rough crest]

You moving away from the main topic of this thread tho I was just pointing out how bad the market is atm and been 1week ik people have different ways of grinding and enjoying their time in a game.

And its not about being easy to get level or currency it's just doesn't add up to how market is rn its just so damn expensive

[tepid gust]

I never said they were easy?? You make no sense at all. You just made a baseless statement and I commented about it with logic.

[cold basin]

I've seen someone now deleted post in this forum that they dump 800$ on this game to shoot up the dp prices, they claimed they have 170~ dp

[unkempt ibex]

F2P players shouldnt have to break their backs in order to keep up with an entire market essentially controlled by a small minority of players, especially this early in. It's not viable for a stable economy looking forward. It's not about "being cool", it's a game. A game to be enjoyed, and everybody should be allowed to do so.

[rough crest]

Bruh how selfish

[upbeat pilot]

Farming was basically shot in the head and buried afaik. It feels like they want to punish you for farming/mass producing, since its now the only activity that gives you 0 xp, and still is among the most time consuming.

[tepid gust]

This guy understands. Im a f2p and not a full time player either. When I saw the economy rising like 200% the price i just stopped bothering because I cant keep up. I want to have fun while also being able to stay relevant to the economy

[obtuse breach]

more bytes going into circulation -> bigger prices

[unkempt ibex]

you can spend money on the game, yes. You are allowed to do so. But it shouldnt be the sole deciding factor in how the economy is shaped for everybody.

[rough crest]

Bro 1week +250% people even with grinding or p2w it wouldn't be pushed this hard its just isn't normal there is something off about the market we talking a game that just relaunched mind you 😭

[tepid gust]

Turns out bro is one of the whales or just a no lifer

[covert jay]

Yeah and it has been way too fast its something suspicious

[obtuse breach]

so? you think I dont understand what we are talking abt? If you want to afford something, grind for it, higher prices higher income, also that refers to your "cooked economy" it's in good state now

@tepid gust what exactly you dont like about economy?

@rough crest in my case i catch up with everything, farming block/seeds, buying low selling high, i dont see a problem with catching up the prices, what do you do that you cant?

[vast forge]

do y'all think the botting, exploting and duping could also be a notable factor in the current inflation?

[unkempt ibex]

oh 100%, everything plays in

[tepid gust]

if youre homeless buy a home ahh 😭 🙏

[rough crest]

Grinding doesn't catch up with how economy going rapidly up please understand that ik you need to grind but you literally see it by your own eyes everyday items increase hard and grinding wise you can't catch up with that increase.. you just can't reason it by throwing "just grind more" as an argument like literally what

[tepid gust]

Same reason why im in this forums son

[muted cave]

I suppose theres something happening? i saw someone sold 4M bcs in the illegal marketplace sometime ago.

How th did they managed to get that much bcs sooo fast

[unkempt ibex]

cash money

[rough crest]

Bro egg hunter staff 1mil bc there smth happening that doesn't add up and def not legal reason why they banning people with that staff or golden keys there is something happening and it's big that causing everything to go up fast

[urban quail]

yo someone needa fix this

[cold basin]

Someone whaling this item fs

[tepid gust]

Black Market existing already is diabolical. And they really should add more pwe purchase history 20 is just not enough

[unkempt ibex]

SPINDELY! Glad you could join us

[muted cave]

Right im just wondering where are those 2M bcs coming from, theres no way that the economy is already this flooded 1 week since release.

I know there are probably alot of whale out there, but counting the BCs we didnt see being sold in the illegal marketplace, jut wonder how many BCs are there in the circulation?

[rough crest]

I'd love a more detailed one that show seller/buyer as well it's like asking for more logs to be revealed to the players 😀

[urban quail]

yoo

[obtuse breach]

how do you know its real

[vast forge]

If they're legit, literal no sleep marketplace transactions
but chances are BCs got duped with all the wipes and manteinance breaks x.x

[muted cave]

Well the picture seems pretty real to me, but i really do hope its not if this is the case

[sly bridge]

Ngl I was able to grind up to 50k bc when jetpack was 27k bc, but i cant grind daily addictively, I decided to wait until it drops... and bame its now 65k bc 😭

[tepid gust]

I saw a screenshot of someone saying that they own 160 dark pixies in their world. They were wearing full bunnynator set too

[rough crest]

It's just odd how so many people keep getting banned each maintenance def smth wrong going on

[covert jay]

I also heard @indonesia was sold 15m or sum could it even be true

[grave lance]

This is cause of inflation, the more byte coins are added into the game the higher the value of all general items become. so many players are buying byte coins that the circulation of them are many this makes prices of things go up like soda as a example

[sly bridge]

Which is depressing, even gem prices ratio are going up, whats happening fr how many whales we got on this game that manipulate the exagerrating rise of price of items 😭

[muted cave]

They really should allow us to use byte coins to buy booster packs, just to reduce the insane amount of it in the circulation

[vast forge]

there's also less supply of jetpacks in general
which allows people to charge more (this applies to many things)

[rough crest]

Even then it can't be this much of an increase its either something not legal happening or some mega ultra whales bought alot of the items low and is manipulating with a group of people

[tepid gust]

Applies to black dragon n blue dragon wings too

[polar nova]

Tbh I feel like they should b more bc if u finish the mines, u get one gold coin which is equivalent to 1000 gems if u were to buy the 10 coin pack. But since it’s not guaranteed it would be less than the fair 200 byte price if we r going at a 5 gem per byte rate. Also I been selling nuggets for .8 which would be equivalent to 80 just bc it was way easier than keys

[rough crest]

It's just the grind rewards not catching up to the current boost in prices

[sly bridge]

If BC was used to buy items in shop this is a great idea,

But IAP already have options for gems and BC separatly woth separate prices. This option will never be available.

Though defining prices would be nice.

A thing that I dont understand they have world TRADE for nothing, I thought admins would define prices that would limit inflation control the economy.

Like allowing to put items in any prices is ridiculuous, it should be limited to a logical extent

[vast forge]

wait-
what's the current gem ratio?

[tepid gust]

1000/270

[polar nova]

That’s tru. I agree on the market manipulation stuff n it’s hard to see to what extent w out the data

[rough crest]

Bro it was 1000/200 wth how 270 now wtffff no way how the hell people getting that much bc I saw some dude saying 50k bc is pocket change like ?? Bruhh

[vast forge]

that explains why Nether crystals are 2.5-2.9 bc a piece now 🤔

[muted cave]

I see ur point, the price difference makes it quite tricky to implement.

But the TRADE world part, Yeah idk why are they sleeping on this because the prices are certainly not normal. Almost every rare item now rose like 2x its original value? which is crazy, DP especially, that sht will still be available till the end of the month, idfk why it keeps on rising.

Could be some group of people doing manip or its just that people are that dumb that they dont realize that there will be a lot more DP coming into the circulation with all the time we got left.

[tepid gust]

Yeah and the nether is better than ever lmao

[rough crest]

Didn't they say that prices will be a set price or smth cuz we can clearly see what's going on rn with market

[snow totem]

I think ppl are duping tbh. The incredible amount of bc in circulation rn doesn't make sense otherwise

[sly bridge]

In PWE for example there is not much Black Dragon Wings nor Soda Jetpack

As said whales can manipulate it easily.

We say bunnynator shoes goes up to 10k rn.

People started seeling 7-10 shoes per PWE. The prices slightly went down to 9k

Idk whats the rate now though if someone can update

[muted cave]

They said something about founding critical issue right in the maintanance? Could it be.....

[snow totem]

Set price is stupid imo. The whole point of the game is it's a market system.

[rough crest]

That's also a big part of how easily manipulated the market is any item like literally any idea with low listing and someone decided to buy the entire supply for it and make their own listing that is gonna new standard and this keeps going on

[tepid gust]

Only if I can send gifs to react to ts

[rough crest]

No way that's the dude who did the manipulation wtf

[vast forge]

That's very true, I've profited more from nether than mines recently
I just hope I get to Nether V soon

[tepid gust]

Its the most consistent and the gear is hella versatile and doesn't require insane investment

[terse rose]

all would've been fixed by making wls tradeable btw

[proven robin]

byte sink byte sink byte sink
solution to every problem
more byte sink

[rough crest]

Bc system better imo

@proven robin byte sink can't prevent manipulation from the rich tho it's good to have for general health of the economy

[tepid gust]

I remember when dp was 1 pl 💔

[vast forge]

The BC system is better, but WL would provide a "gold standard" that controls inflation

[rough crest]

It wouldn't currency is currency can be inflated,deflated and manipulated

[arctic smelt]

yeah and world locks would even be worse for inflation since they're obtainable with gems

[wise yacht]

The game has like 10x more players now than before, old players are playing smarter than before, buying out the rare stuff, its normal.
And the inflation is hitting
If youre broke just say your broke. New players are not supposed to get the best stuff right away.

[main quartz]

Totally agree, might be a skill issue on my end, but i just feel like i cant keep up, i have to grind for hours every single day and that still isnt enough

[proven robin]

here we go again
i dont even care anymore tbh just straight up give millions of bc to wwhales atp

[rough crest]

More players doesn't mean market should be manipulated first week of launch we talking of a new game and look at the numbers of each item increasing by 200%+ being new or old regardless market is just so unrealistic and unreasonable for the time it existed and being broke or not has nothing to do with trying to buy items you want and you can't keep up like legit the whole point was something wrong in the market and you can't deny it

[rough crest]

Wtf.. just how people manage to get that much bc in such short time

[wise yacht]

Idk players who grind more get rewarded more if you want to be a casual player be that no one is stopping you you can afford wings and sum todo, if you want to be top 1% you gotta grind while everyone is sleeping again skill issue

[wise yacht]

Find a job and insert credit card details low k btc is wayy to cheap i personally on start bought like 500$ worth and now i can just buy out all pf the moths or some kind of item and raise the price to 300% its original value but ay the people are buying it

[rough crest]

Saying that means you just want to contribute more into the issue rather than trying to solve it so everyone can enjoy their time how selfish even p2w shouldn't effect the market that much within a fricking week from launch and fresh start the increase is def done by p2w players who hoard items with low listing and manipulate it I hope that the reason behind the current inflation otherwise its blackmarket doing. And you wonder why so many getting banned with items like egg hunter staff kinda odd isn't it

[wise yacht]

Honestly im just taking advantage of people while kids spend 10 hours grinding of an item i spend 30 minutes at job and buy the item…

[proven robin]

dont bother you cant convince them

[rough crest]

Like remember when Jack left being a community manager after 4 years game shut down, and atp yk how much he gave away 1mil bc which is insane amount, we not even a week in and egg hunter staff is 1mil bc lol that's with saying jack giving away 1mil bc after years not weeks..

[rough crest]

I don't want to act like I'm trying to control how people enjoy their games but yes people can totally spend their hard earned money and boost themselves ingame that doesn't mean you ignore the bigger picture and you know for a fact that the current market inflation isn't normal at all for a week that launch 1week ago

[tepid gust]

Our little comedian

[wise yacht]

Mad cuz bad idk

[obsidian magnet]

The game is the one taking advantage of YOU 😭 You spent 500 dollars on the game already and ur here talking about taking advantage of people

[obsidian magnet]

You shouldn't compare old bc to current bc. Because the obtainment of bc is completely different from old pixel worlds it doesn't have the same value it once was. 1 million bc back then was A LOT now it is still a large amount but not even comparable. In other words the value of bc has gone down. BUT unlike back then bc can only be bought with real money and not through in game gameplay. So the rate at which bc comes to the game will be way lower in theory. Once we're several months into the game the value of bc will stabilize

[rough crest]

highly doubt the current inflation is purely done with legit players

[obsidian magnet]

There's no inflation. You're comparing the current bc to the old bc. Only reason prices are increasing is because there's more and more bc coming into the economy through in app purchases. It will stabilize in a few months

[rough crest]

Bruh..

[short rampart]

Bro the prices aren't rising because the economy is cooked, they are rising because people finally have enough bytes to afford the things they want, which means there is an increased demand on different items. Also the playerbase is 10x the size it was.

the game needs a place where people can spend their bytes and take them out of the circulation

[vague breach]

the reason why there so many bytes in circulation right now is because there isn't a place to sink byte other than taxes, and even then it's still only 5%-10%

[rough crest]

money sinks alone wont stop maniuplation people already 2-5x their nw by doing it and they can keep going due to tthem having crazy wealth from doing tthis

[split meteor]

I do feel some odds in the pixel world economy, I mean sometimes the black market prices will help us to see what's going on. and at this point I feel there is something wrong with the bytecoins

[vague breach]

lets be real here, every mmo games has some sort of manipulation. Like just forget about byte coin and treat this like a solo game. Afterall this game is mostly solo unlike midtopia

[rough crest]

yes but that doesnt apply to a game that released a week ago there def sometthing wrong going on with the economy and so many ban waves

[vague breach]

think like this, every new player will gain 10 byte each from completing newbie quest. And we peak at 50k player in steam when launch (not counting mobile). Some quest give bytes too and there basically no place to sink byte into

[obsidian magnet]

Manipulation isn't really a problem. It's just smart to do and if people are allowing themselves to fall for it that's kinda on them

[obsidian magnet]

50k players? Are you sure? I thought it was roughly 10k on steam

[tepid gust]

we did NOT peak 50k brochacho

[rough crest]

lol

[short rampart]

50k 💔 😭

[rough crest]

Bump- nether crystals 1.3bc lol

[vast forge]

That's 'cuz of the botting
So many bots on nether...
There go my profits

[obtuse breach]

peak was like 13k