Gem & VIP Packs

[lapis wave]

I'm late to this thread. Have they answered if there's a way to obtain byte coins for free? Can we convert gems to byte coins just like before?

[brazen flax]

MAKE WORLD LOCKS TRADEABLE!

[slim furnace]

Make bytes great again🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

[cosmic shadow]

Why you guys hating that much there is no bad thigs about byte thing yes in short term f2p players cant get bytes easy but these players get items too so your items will be priced hmany bytes in game and if getting bytes will be easy that makes everything same as before

[snow folio]

did you use your brain for that? You almost got any bc from gameplay back in the days and since we did not get any announcement on new features or new ways for bytes to be optainable via gameplay this will not cahange (if it would they could have simply said so to calm the players but they didnt). Trading is not an argument, just imagine everyone (and i mean everyone) to not succumb to this money grab shenanigans so how are people supposed to trade if nobody has bytes?

[valid mauve]

Okay, I’m really trying to understand this. You say Bytes aren’t just IAP and we can still earn them, but the packs cost more and the game is moving away from currency grinding. It honestly feels like we’re just being pushed to spend. How does that actually keep the economy player-driven? @harsh briar

[languid shard]

Duck you

[sturdy flame]

Recycler creates a lot

[finite flame]

let's use wings as the new currency fr

[old jacinth]

now byte coins might be pretty stable ngl

[mighty crypt]

This whole issue with bytes can simply be solved by returning the WL to bytecoin conversion lets be so real. Let the f2p players still progress without needing to rely on p2w players. Why are you guys so against this @harsh briar

[lost dragon]

wait are we gonna trade with wls then?

[copper trellis]

are bytecoins untradeable?

[spice frigate]

😭

[sour compass]

Lock in noobs, stop crying about this alr, focus on the nether update

[cold mortar]

Honestly the best way to protest is to find a new currency ourselves

[neat thicket]

change the byte system

[tidal ice]

@dawn turret did you get hired to the social first team? why is there an iAP worth $499.99 😿

[twilit egret]

😂

[charred arch]

this is the dumbest thing iv seen the issue isnt bytes being buyable the issue is free to play players cant grind for large amounts of bytes anymore

[silver vapor]

facts

[novel rock]

Demon wings

[crude sky]

Yall devs really seem to care about us

[dawn turret]

that's crazy 😂

[fickle wave]

🍅 take one

[analog stream]

Cheap

[gloomy zephyr]

Syfm chud

[crisp dove]

Check crybabies - #pw-media-n-share message

[swift parrot]

Thanks!

[burnt willow]

Debunking some things
Its not just about the greed. IAP's are necesssary to keep the games serv ers going. For comparison I believe illegal trading made 2-5x more money than PW IAP's during hte last 2 years.
I do agree that its kinda ridiculous that bytecoin economy will most likely be 90% IAP and 10% f2p
Devs werent negligent. there were no devs.....

[mossy leaf]

I understand that this system can be good long term in theory. A stable economy matters. But that only works if players actually stay.

Right now, the early experience matters the most. First impressions decide if people keep playing. If free-to-play players feel outmatched immediately, many will leave early.

We’ve already seen something similar happen with Nexus Station. The player base dropped off, and once players leave early, it’s very hard to recover. A system can be good long term, but it won’t matter if people don’t stick around long enough to see it.

If most Byte Coins come from purchases, paying players start with a clear advantage. They can buy items early, overpay for worlds, and set prices before others catch up. That gives them strong control from the very beginning.

For free-to-play players, it’s not just slower progress. It feels like entering a market that’s already shaped by others. Even if you play smart, you’re mostly reacting instead of competing.

The early stage matters a lot. Prices and value are decided in those first hours or days. If only a few players hold most of the BC, they naturally control that process.

I’m not against monetization. It’s understandable and necessary. But gameplay should still offer a meaningful way to earn BC, especially early on.

Right now, control feels too concentrated at the start. Even if things balance later, the early gap is already created. A bit more balance would help make the economy feel truly player-driven.

[reef pasture]

If Pixel Worlds is about Bytecoins - what is it without them?

[leaden wind]

499$ for Jake's bathwater lol

[slate summit]

🔥🖊️

[ripe swan]

Ok

[steep ether]

I aint reading allat

[spring turtle]

We, peasants, are gonna have to use dirt seed as a currency.
While the noblemen (p2w players) will use gold (BC) amongst themselves to trade. All is well

[worn stag]

Not spending a dime on this slop now

[shell pike]

Make wls tradeable!!!Make wls tradeable!!!

[harsh briar]

Guys I understand why it can feel this way, especially with the history behind the game and us needing to rebuild some trust here. As I've said before, the changes we've been making aren't about short-term gains, it's long-term, building a stable foundation so the same issues don't happen again. We know that's something we're going to have to show over time.

[pliant aurora]

We have to find ourselves an item that we can use for trading

[red barn]

So uhh, can yall just undo this?

[viral cedar]

No way that we are gonna grind money for they 🗣️🗣️

[trim cove]

• PW: We listen to the community!!!
• Community: We hate that update
• PW: Does literally nothing and makes new accouncement about Nether maybe the community will forget about that bad update

[river cedar]

yo bro could u summarize ts

[nocturne gulch]

5 mins slow mode I can't bruh

[jovial bobcat]

Sooo...why are we using AI to respond to people? Pixel worlds was never like this...wtf?

[proud mist]

they’re about ruining the game then, fcking excellent

[harsh briar]

I'm still here listening

[stable snow]

just do ads to make money bruh why this p2w shi keeps growing 😭

[dense tiger]

we wont want to kiss wall nexus station

[harsh briar]

We were always posting 2 posts today, I said that last week 🙂

[rugged hatch]

the thing is the difference between a paying player and a free to play player is so MASSIVE
introduce gem to bytes back but at a lesser rate, add taxes to pwe
or add wl to bytes
it would still take years to get back to the inflation level

[static remnant]

i prefer greg'

[frail gyro]

Fire 🔥

[sonic steeple]

Please tell us how we can get bytes normally?

[patent salmon]

First the wl isn’t level restricted, now bc from purchase only, I feels like something is going on

[harsh briar]

no AI is being used to respond to people

[solid blade]

what are these gameplay ways of earning BCs

[fleet rose]

Add femboys ingame then maybe Ill forgive pixel worlds and nexus station

[queen canopy]

@harsh briar can you list all the ways a player can gain bytecoins through gameplay

[woeful shuttle]

Think about it. Making afk farm bots wont work now

[harsh briar]

getting a clear answer for you on this

[tropic oasis]

@harsh briar why are you posting 2 announcements to distract us from this like the us gov distracts from the files

[visual tartan]

Maybe theres still hope...

[bleak prawn]

Actually she may be right ,it’s a good decision no joke , after the game gets stable it will be very good for the economy , you can still buy fish gems for byte and etc. For the long term is a good decision and I hope she is not lying about the long term vision of the game

[modern thunder]

im sorry you have to deal with this 😭

[covert temple]

Well 🤓 ☝️ actchually we can't listen to written messages

[harsh briar]

there was always going to be two posts today - I mentioned that last week. We had lots of info to get out before launch and with today being the last day, two went out

[plush elk]

So are the vip packs and gems gonna be worth more than before or what?

[wary viper]

If AI isn't being used to respond to people, then why are you dismissing the community concerns?
Hypocritical much? Really puts the "Money First" into play here.

[burnt shell]

why do you sometimes use long dash in the responses and sometimes the short one? almost if the responses with long dash are all AI and you dont even know how to type the long dash yourself

[winter valley]

does recycler event work same as before?

[inland quarry]

So WL are not tradeable. BC are tradeable, just harder to get free to play so that the economy stays still longer? That's not the worse thing ever but people do not like it.

[balmy sparrow]

yep and i agree i just wish they price of BC would be more expensive

[golden agate]

The amount of ways to get bytecoins for free should be expanded, before it was from daily quests, wishing well, trading in wls and buying with gems, 2 of which are getting removed (which were also the better ways to get them)

[vale urchin]

@harsh briar youre just a greedy p2w dev

[harsh briar]

good point well made

[old jacinth]

you devs should make iaps purchaseable only once maybe

[wanton jasper]

We’ve also changed how Byte Coins work. They are now primarily introduced into the economy through purchases, with smaller amounts still available through gameplay.
bro tf is this please revert it back the bytecoins were such a good trading currency and this would just ruin it

[spare inlet]

But that means short term or first few days of PW economy will be heavily influenced by P2P players since they can just buy tons of bytecoins instantly while F2P players can't even grind anything yet

[gilded pawn]

wii bytes be used in pwe?

[harsh briar]

😅 oh dear. I'll work on my typing skills

[distant rune]

will IAPs be available on release

[balmy compass]

return something to the free to play players then

[hasty shale]

Why wos untrdeable bruh fr

[gentle pendant]

Hmm what about secret base tho doest blue particles cost bytes or will it be changed into gems and if so how much

[dreamy sparrow]

this is a money grab/

[brittle scroll]

this might be the worst idea yet

[ionic sierra]

Dev please my suggestion https://discord.com/channels/399918427256520705/1488187253376159854

[sly ridge]

That doesnt answer on the question

[dim dragon]

Are the vips cheaper now?

[charred arch]

siseka the amount of bytes a free to play player can get is literally nothing compared to buying a single IAP

this makes players who pay have a control over the economy

[flat sable]

WE MUST PROTEST AND SOMEHOW STOP THIS... BRO THERES NO WAY THEY WANT MONEY FOR BCS

[strange agate]

@harsh briar Reduce the amount of bytes you can get for real money, the people who spend money will always spend money, it doesnt matter how much they get in return. But its really unfair to people who arent spending hundreds and have to grind for 100s of hours just to make the same amount of bytecoins anyone can buy for 10€

[rough sapphire]

Your typing seems fine to me

[compact terrace]

lol no secret base for f2p until we get bytecoins from the whales

[shadow kiln]

I mean looking at this for a few weeks this is very p2w, afterwards it's pointless, but still poses an unfair advantage against f2p players no?

[valid mauve]

I’m honestly confused here. You say Bytes aren’t just IAP and we can still earn them, but packs cost more and direct grinding is basically gone. Feels like players have less control over the economy now, and I’m worried this might push some of the community away. How is this supposed to keep the game fun for everyone? @harsh briar I really need an answer on this

[zenith silo]

i'm wasting my 5 minute message on this, just letting yall know

[earnest sky]

Just make the convertion of gems to bc smaller

[finite flame]

How do you expect us to change perks if BC is rare now? I don't want to play for a day to just to change a perk

[austere shadow]

@harsh briar make the recycler event 2 times per month

[turbid tendon]

HOLY CASH GRAB !!!

[sour compass]

Yap yap stop crying

[ripe swan]

Before: Free-to-play players could buy Bytecoins using gems.
After: This feature is now restricted to pay-to-win players only.

[sharp ruin]

How much do gem prices cost?

[mossy leaf]

If most Byte Coins come from purchases, paying players start with a clearly HUGE advantage. They can buy items early, overpay for worlds, and set prices before others catch up. That gives them strong control from the very beginning.
For free-to-play players, it’s not just slower progress. It feels like entering a market that’s already shaped by others. Even if you play smart, you’re mostly reacting instead of competing.

The early stage matters a lot. Prices and value are decided in those first hours or days. If only a few players hold most of the BC, they naturally control that process.
I’m not against monetization. It’s understandable and necessary. But gameplay should still offer a meaningful way to earn BC, especially early on.
Right now, control feels too concentrated at the start. Even if things balance later, the early gap is already created. A bit more balance would help make the economy feel truly player-driven.

[sterile trench]

honestly i feel bad for siskea the team has her out here literally fighting for her life why is nobody else on the team helping lmao

[amber hawk]

We need it at the first week of the game

[wet thorn]

@harsh briar

[young furnace]

real

[fickle wave]

I have a better question

[harsh briar]

The other thing to remember is that there's a daily limit on IAPs in PW. Something most other games don't do, so there's some control there too

[shell pike]

Siskea literally using ai for these answers. You Should really listen the community

[silk agate]

W changes

[cold mortar]

@harsh briar
I think this change could be good, but we need to have an idea of how many bytecoins can be earned from being a free to play player, if it's more than before or no

[dawn turret]

the main issue about this is that right at the start of the launch p2w players have a way better advantage.

Sure it might be better for the future and players get that, but if you really like really. wanted a fair start for everyone the best would of been to temp disable iaps for atleast a week so everyone had a fair shot at the start in games like these worlds and items are really important so if you give p2w players advantages this early on dont you think that will just affect and mess up the economy further? . i think you guys should really re-consider this decision.

[narrow mist]

Fr where is commander K he needs to address this

[spring turtle]

Either play or don't play nothing will change stop crying

[eternal marsh]

how much is the limit

[river cedar]

get a job twin

[prisma anvil]

Just make the amount of bc in the paid packs less than they are tbh

[jovial bobcat]

let's use pixie wings are our main currency! They are exactly 2 wls! so whenever we fish up a lot of gems and want some type of currency to spend on, we buy pixie wings...sell them for goodies.
WL has become a currency out of nowhere, cause it was a thing locking and protecting your world. WLs was never expected to be some type of currency that we all know until' today. So, my point is Pixie Wings would be as same as WLs, just twice the price. That's it.

[trim cove]

then do something? are you going to repeat "this is to balance the economy ", "we need to gain trust "

You know, after I heard about relaunch of pw I had some hope
especially becuase you was trying to listen everybody out. Your first impression was ok.
Now you can't listen to us, what a magic isn't it?

[rough wadi]

@harsh briar Imo IAP only for byte coins is overall a bad idea
Take for example Hypixel Skyblock. It has lasted for over 6 years with economy still "kinda" healthy. The way they did it is by making multiple ways to get coins out of the economy for example Dungeons where opening rewards cost money, Dark auction where there is a minimum price for items and they usually go for a lot more than the minimun price. There are other much healthier ways for the game to make the economy stable than making bytes IAP only

[mighty crypt]

could you let us know what the limit is?

[zenith osprey]

Fr mam wth is the devs doing, help herr bruhhh

[leaden wind]

What is the limit?

[harsh briar]

in terms of earning BCs - tasks, achievements, daily spins and jet race wheel are some examples

[twilit egret]

ik its hard explaining to 10 iq crybabies

[grizzled peak]

Money first no social first

[dense tiger]

Make pixel worlds great againnnnn 🇺🇸 🦅 🦅

[slow fox]

Do recyclers work the same

[topaz crypt]

Restrict purchases at the start of the game so all of us can have a fair race...

[flint walrus]

Yeah, what will the people that paid use BC for? exactly, trading. thats how the F2P will be able to get BC. by actually trading instead of sitting 8 hours with macro and just spamming buy button on the shop.

[thin lichen]

what is iap limit?

[limber aspen]

Will the order of vip daily bonus be shuffled or remain the same as it was? (ie are we starting with dark pixies again?)

[pliant harness]

Guys the value of grinding isnt gone. This just means that items earned from grinding will act as the middleman between grinding and bytecoins. Particularly in the case of nether crystals, fish, and gemstones, they will be very easy to trade with players for bytecoins. You can still earn bytes from grinding, just not directly

[sharp ice]

Steel ball run

[snow folio]

that never gave much

[pliant aurora]

I agree that World Locks should not be tradable for Byte Coins — that makes sense.
However, there should also be a way to obtain Byte Coins using gems. Because if I don’t spend money (P2W), I won’t be able to earn Byte Coins.

[burnt willow]

@harsh briar What's the rate of bytecoins f2p players could get w/o IAP?
I get that you guys wanna slow down the economys inflation and keep the games IAP be accessible, but I feel like mostly limiting them wouldn't be the right move.

Especially in early game, how would we be able to use PWE if bytecoins were hard to obtain?

Are we expected to trade items for items instead of using bytecoins?

Also, a really big thing I fear is that if the avaiability rate is not good enough for hte f2p players. People might start using gems as the main currency and bytecoins more as a side currency. Have you guys discussed about that possibility yet?

I know you guys need a lot of money to sustain the servers, its a really hard thing to balance. I'm just super worried on how this economy will work if bytecoins are mainly obtained from IAP...

One more question regarding events such as recycling and wishing wells, how will those work?

[fast plover]

Can the clan make it above the player's name, not from the right side from above, it looks good and elegant

[analog stream]

You forgot Recycler

[novel bluff]

Just grind insert tuff edits

[worn stag]

When the games eventually dies we can look back at this

[supple locust]

@harsh briar I love how calm you appraoch the questions that can be hurtful, I love you my king

[cedar wadi]

Ai slop 🥀

[frail gyro]

Make wlss exanagable for bytcoins

[tropic oasis]

@harsh briar are we being compensated for lost iap items via the global reset? like a cosmetic role here or smt?

[wispy tartan]

“Tell us what you think” - i’m not reading it

[nova valley]

Bro...

[cold crag]

ai slop

[spiral charm]

"If most Byte Coins come from purchases, paying players start with a clearly HUGE advantage. They can buy items early, overpay for worlds, and set prices before others catch up. That gives them strong control from the very beginning.
For free-to-play players, it’s not just slower progress. It feels like entering a market that’s already shaped by others. Even if you play smart, you’re mostly reacting instead of competing.

The early stage matters a lot. Prices and value are decided in those first hours or days. If only a few players hold most of the BC, they naturally control that process.
I’m not against monetization. It’s understandable and necessary. But gameplay should still offer a meaningful way to earn BC, especially early on.
Right now, control feels too concentrated at the start. Even if things balance later, the early gap is already created. A bit more balance would help make the economy feel truly player-driven."

Exactly dude, the early stage means a lot...

People be argumenting that in "long term it will stabilize" but in the long term they p2w players will already have dominated the economy to themselves.

[broken tiger]

Keep it up Siskea building back the community trust is not that easy, i hope u n the other dev/com manager never givin up on educating player especially for this “new” economy n game market thing

[late token]

Okay new meta occur,

Butterfly catcher vs my 500$ headstart

[silent willow]

🦻🏻

[fleet rose]

This is like gacha game logic but way worse because it's an actual MMORPG where players control the economy even if the IAPs limited

[astral quarry]

I do really understand what is this about now,whats kind of mind game this crap played,they just making a system which basically either there's bunch of people p2w to make things work or just stable it as if nobody gonna pay this,if it's in the middle the game is dead

[vale urchin]

@harsh briar Those who care about money will never earn it.

It's understandable that you need money to support the servers and keep them stable, but really? Not even a chance for the F2P players? Pixel Worlds used to be a comminity of friendly players and the Community Manager (Jake) didn't care about the money. What happened?

You say it's "long-term", but what will be long-term is the loss of players. At least 60% of the community is F2P, and at this point honestly, nobody wants to play a game that will reward you after you use the wallet.

[inland quarry]

So gems have to be used to buy packs which can then be traded for BC instead or what?

[harsh briar]

I'm reading feedback and responding to questions as much as possible. I hope you give the relaunch a go

[lethal plaza]

Are the prices going to change overtime?

[fresh sandal]

Hi guys!

• Ofc BC will spike in the early days, since players want to get geared up and ready for the mid-end game, buying BC by IAP, while others are grinding them. When players got what they want (a stable way to grind and get rich without buying BCs thru IAP then the currency flow will slow down, since its pointless to spend money when u can grind it in game now)

• New playes can still buy BC thru IAP so that they get a head start into the game while not affecting (drastically) the economy.

Soooo... Whales are gonna buy BC for a good boost to get them mid-end game and F2P players will just grind and have fun (since we are FREE to play).

One thing, BC now acquirable thru IAP and just basically grinding will put a halt to RMT. Since you can just buy directly in the game and not from some third party someone. RMT will still exist thru F2P players selling "cheaper" currency than the IAP offers, thats when the moderation team rolls out and hunt them to extinction! 🫏

[old jacinth]

currency iaps just suck in general tbh, I have no idea if that's solvable

[unkempt lion]

Can i buy and sell ingame items with real money now that byte is based on real money with third parties

[winter valley]

recycler event will work same as before?

[manic plover]

Everyone listen.

We all should just use dark pixie wings for the main currency. If thats not good let’s switch that to soda jetpacks

[inner terrace]

can you check this https://discord.com/channels/399918427256520705/1486354371783430184

[brittle scroll]

bro delete ts

[rugged hatch]

theres a reason why bytes are in app purchase only

[dim glen]

could you answer my question on #1488186881395921056 please. i wanna know if there's goin to be a deep nether, and if we're expecting any new items from there or from the nether shop

[visual tartan]

Hell nah... Im sorry bro, but yall ruined the game

[sturdy flame]

Guys let's just use gem pouches as currency. Think Abt it, it's perfect

[lyric kelp]

you know what maybe this does do more good than harm since BC is still decently earnable through normal gameplay but it'll be hard to tell till' the game well, actually launches

i wanna see how this plays out first

[harsh vault]

not really, it's for fighting inflation but ok

[sly ridge]

E (used my 5 min msg just like jacce did)

[covert temple]

Make a marketplace and put commission fee so socialfirst gain money too 🙌🙏💪

[distant rune]

@harsh briar Will IAPs be available on release?

[zenith silo]

bytes will not become that rare, but who knows, maybe they adjusted those prices as well. Bytes will quite quickly become the standard currency after launch

[graceful sluice]

No.

[valid mauve]

Okay, I get there’s a daily limit on IAPs and Bytes aren’t strictly P2W, but with packs costing more and direct grinding basically gone, it feels like players have way less control over the economy. Doesn’t this risk pushing some of the community away again?@harsh briar

[austere shadow]

@harsh briar please answer this. Do NOT change the recycler

[earnest sky]

Answer about the recycler pls

[lusty temple]

I'm a little skeptical of this. If the rate of bytecoins are being reduced, the amount entering the economy may not be able to keep up with the amount leaving due to taxes. Would dodge inflation but just means deflation instead, which would make it optimal to never use bc as a currency for long term. Will there be adjustments done to avoid this?

[arctic timber]

Tell me why you guys put bc to only buyable!? I feel so bad for that. I was so hyped but you guys want just grab our moneys at the begin! I want this message to developers!

[gentle pendant]

@harsh briar what about perk changing and secret base particles since they cost bytes will they be alternated to gems ?

[burnt shell]

They probably forgot it even exists

[regal geode]

i can buy 100.000 gems pack with 1 hour of work so people must really be lazy to have such takes
-# yeah bro downvote this, it will surely change the FACTS 🌹

[tender stream]

bro bcs is just for trading

[sturdy plank]

what were bytes used for? I dont remember them existing i could just be dumb tho

[short tendon]

please DONT change the recycler and please make the recycler event more frequent

[sweet locust]

@harsh briar what's the daily limit?

[turbid tendon]

SISKEA USING BIG GPT TO ANSWER YALL 😭

[spring turtle]

I mean what did Siskea do/know? He ain't a dev

[native plank]

Guys they said we will be able to get them through gameplay just smaller amounts

[hallow stirrup]

@harsh briar Did you guys even calculate how much time it would take roughly for a f2p player to get 25k bytes meanwhile a p2w can buy 25k with just 19$ at the start .. considering recycler was nerfed back in the day and that other stuff doesnt get u that much bytes my estimate would be roughly 1-2months with intense grind

[trim cove]

I remember that day having 20 btc only (at the beginning of the PW game) now players can buy 20k btc like its nothing, cool.

[lament palm]

I think and it's bad

[willow solar]

Hello — everyone! 😃 👋 I really like both of these announcements! 😁 👍 Super — good! 🥹

[finite flame]

SISKEA has the 5min timeout timer as we have

[amber hawk]

Disable iap for the day 1 of relauch

[plush elk]

No it’s not lmao it’s good

[zenith valley]

Don’t speak again

[brazen merlin]

what do it mean?

[odd pine]

Bro just remove the bc from the store and all the problems will be solved, i dont see how is adding the bc to the store gonna make the economy more stable

[fickle wave]

Then whos going to pay for commander k's next fishing trip?

[sour compass]

Yes, i agree!

[coarse vector]

I mean instead of making bytes primarily accessible through iap, they can just be gated behind like a couple of days of account age, or keep them locked until like day 5 post launch

[jovial bobcat]

let's use pixie wings as our main currency! They are exactly 2 wls! so whenever we fish up a lot of gems and want some type of currency to spend on, we buy pixie wings...sell them for goodies.
WLs has become a currency out of nowhere, cause it was a thing meant for locking and protecting your world. WLs were never expected to be some type of currency that we all know until' today. So, my point is Pixie Wings would be as same as WLs, just twice the price. That's it.

[clever kelp]

the packs cost more because the economy is reset how is that bad gems arent as they used to be when the game was in its late stages

[brittle remnant]

19 dollars for 25k bc the inflation would be crazy

[grand bison]

My wallet just committed after reading this announcement

[narrow mist]

@harsh briar can you read and respond to this please i think it will make a lot of sense

[burnt willow]

the recycler needs a rework. The recycler event gave WAY TOO MANY bytecoins for the low cost. It would put million of bytecoins in the economy at once.

[pliant aurora]

@harsh briar I agree that World Locks should not be tradable for Byte Coins — that makes sense.
However, there should also be a way to obtain Byte Coins using gems. Because if I don’t spend money (P2W), I won’t be able to earn Byte Coins.

[sharp ice]

Make 100k gem pack limited into once per week

[analog stream]

We recycling Dark Pixies with this one 🔥

[proud mist]

THIS

[cedar osprey]

No, u 🫡😂

[charred arch]

@harsh briar just make byte coins not purchaseable using real life currency then u can still have bc be very limited since it can only be obtained through things like daily quests, jetrace etc

[idle jungle]

Commander_k ruining pw

[cold mortar]

commander triple k

[pearl totem]

what the new prices?

[silk agate]

i dont really get why people are mad at these changes, whats the issue ?

[silent willow]

‼️ BAN ROBLOX IN THE PHILIPPINES‼️

[placid siren]

gg go next🥀

[crisp aurora]

The type of greed they talk about in the bible lmao bc for real money holy cash grab

[lethal plaza]

If you are trying to get currency into the game then that plan is okay, yet have in mind how much Byte Coins and gems free to play players are able to earn, I don't know how it will work now but back then we weren't able to get as much Byte Coins that quickly by doing quests, achievements etc. We want a fair start and fair economy, nobody needs something like Nexus Station has. There you can just buy big amounts of in-game currency for cheap while free to play players have to really put much time into the game in order to earn that much for free. Either make the amount of currency obtainable by free to play players larger or change prices for gems and Byte Coins after some time passes.

[old jacinth]

nah, just remove iaps and instead shove ads every two minutes of gameplay. sounds more fun and exciting, doesn't it? why bother playing the game if you can... not play the game! genius!

[shell pike]

Greed of man

[mighty crypt]

Ban Pixel Worlds in Indonesia

[late token]

EA games vs social first, who would win?

[tropic oasis]

@harsh briar are we being compensated for lost iap items via the global reset? any at all? even an apology?

[flint walrus]

people always tend to hate new ideas and policies mate. happens everywhere in the world

[plush flame]

Shutdown Pixel Worlds again

[woeful shuttle]

these games have always been p2w since you could buy gems -> buy bytes with gems, this simply changes how byte coins enter the econoy -> less bytecoins

[vale urchin]

Feedback is usually acted upon, not just "observed" by the way. Just stop making the game so IAP-reliable, instead make it F2P and fun again and start listening to the community.

[fleet rose]

BYTES COST MORE THAN DIESEL GAS

[manic plover]

Yes everyone go spread the word

[sterile trench]

we need to
make pixel worlds great again

[nocturne gulch]

Pixel worlds vs growtopia who's more greedy?

[dusk flume]

I actually like this change.

[patent salmon]

Did you guys even calculate how much time it would take roughly for a f2p player to get 25k bytes meanwhile a p2w can buy 25k with just 19$ at the start .. considering recycler was nerfed back in the day and that other stuff doesnt get u that much bytes my estimate would be roughly 1-2months with intense grind (COPIED FROM OTHERS)

[zenith osprey]

Wdym boi

[compact knoll]

Fr man

[stone kernel]

@harsh briar this is horrible. p2w game 😂

[modern flame]

Ban Pixel World in Israel

[fathom spear]

Did you guys even calculate how much time it would take roughly for a f2p player to get 25k bytes meanwhile a p2w can buy 25k with just 19$ at the start .. considering recycler was nerfed back in the day and that other stuff doesnt get u that much bytes my estimate would be roughly 1-2months with intense grind (COPIED FROM OTHERS)

[visual tartan]

Yeah I love how the games nowadays are, pay to play less of the game 😭 🙏 ...son...

[inland quarry]

Comment bot emoji if u like update

[modern thunder]

gpt apparently 🤖
(gt)

[lyric garden]

tung tung tung 67 bytes the dust crocodila capucino

[glossy stirrup]

Thats a statement i stand for

[hollow badger]

Bro said that he wants to make game that last for decades but in reality they only last in our memories.

[sly ridge]

Did you guys even calculate how much time it would take roughly for a f2p player to get 25k bytes meanwhile a p2w can buy 25k with just 19$ at the start .. considering recycler was nerfed back in the day and that other stuff doesnt get u that much bytes my estimate would be roughly 1-2months with intense grind (COPIED FROM OTHERS)

[surreal moth]

I love Terraria

[austere shadow]

average p2w player in pw. wtf are you saying man

[winter valley]

bytes will be limited so much if they dont do actions 🙏🏼

[jovial bluff]

[rancid spruce]

Nah, some of us have jobs and don’t have time to grind, I rather spend money then waste time grinding agains people who don’t work

[prisma anvil]

Add a "watch ads for bc" feature thats unlimited but only like 5bc or something small

[sharp finch]

bro its gonna stabilize at a point are u dumb?

[queen canopy]

Where is jake

[gloomy zephyr]

I don't think I'd play ts tbh

[nova acorn]

W

[glass trellis]

How is your estimate even created, when we dont know every and how much bytecoin one can obtain as a f2p?

[torn sparrow]

MARKET STUCK NICE ECONOMIES

[zenith silo]

actually quite often what the community thinks is the best for the game, is not actually true. They almost never have background in game design for example

[fresh sandal]

I bet its just for the early game, when the economy stabilizes and grinding is now easier (with mid-tier gears) WHALES will put a halt on them credit cards and just play the game as what it should used to be played. Imagine spending your monthly wages just to be called "THE RICHES PLAYER IN PW" 🤡

[valid mauve]

Okay, I get there’s a daily limit on IAPs and Bytes aren’t strictly P2W, but with packs costing more and direct grinding basically gone, it feels like players have way less control over the economy. Doesn’t this risk pushing some of the community away again? @harsh briar

[grave python]

its just the same like before, the p2w player buy gems and then buy bc😊 😅

[regal geode]

good. keep it that way. winners win. sounds like skill issue if you had 10 days to prepare for launch and you decided to be careless and prepare nothing
it takes 1-2 hours of work to get 10$

[hallow stirrup]

Estimate based off old pw buddy and considering the fact that everyone is gonna be new , there are no farmables yet on market etc

[sonic coral]

Btw 25000 bytes will cost 19 dollars

[coarse vector]

IF and only IF gem to byte conversions are still a thing in the shop this should be a fine change

[cedar wadi]

Just eating dinner rn while watching all of this unfolds 🍜

[finite flame]

if you're worried about inflation, then implement a good way of gem/byte sink

[narrow wraith]

how to get blue particles if bc is so less??

[bright badger]

you can't have bytes goy

[hearty rampart]

this change will only motivate exploiters more

[grand bison]

RELEASE THE BC FILES

[analog stream]

5 minute timer start now

[worn stag]

Just bring the game back like before and you’ll make more money. Otherwise the game will die and then you’ll regret this….

[proud mist]

ts honestly peak

[covert temple]

I think a big issue also is that gems will stack overtime since it's only purpose is buying everything but bytes. In a long term, items you purchase on the shop will cost nothing

[zenith valley]

If yall broke jus say that omg✌️😹

[safe pagoda]

And that should be fine??? Your money, your choice.
Spending money just means you like the game and want to support the developers. What's the issue with it?

[jovial bobcat]

guys can we kill poor

[burnt willow]

I am the least p2w guy there is. I dont do microtransactions..
Obviously if theyre going thru this route, they have to nerf or rework the reycler.

The recycler event was a problem for the economy and the devs even nerfed it by making souls, bolts and other items like that giv e way less ´points..
It still didnt fix the issue

[flat sable]

JAKE, I'VE LIKED YOU FOR A LONG TIME, YOURE MY SECRET CRUSH, IM NOT HIDING IT ANYMORE !.

[narrow mist]

This is the solution 🥱

[brittle remnant]

Game didn’t even released and we already know economy would be cooked

[brazen merlin]

Will we be able to purchase diamonds once the game launches? ??

[sour compass]

@harsh briar can you hire @willow solar, he is a young talented pixelart drawer

[tight rivet]

I dont get why people complain, this is just the same but now there is no extra step. You can till earn byte through PWE.

[silent willow]

Don't let Trump know about this issue! 🇺🇸🦅🌎

[wooden oyster]

Jake become fat now u still crush him?

[rugged hatch]

nope, the ONLY way to gain byte are with paying

[nova valley]

Even better

[native plank]

idiot

[late token]

SO IF THE BYTECOINS ARE LIMITED THEN HERO EVENTS ARE EXPENSIVE AS HELL? New meta occur?

[old jacinth]

just add more byte coin sinks

[sturdy plank]

he is the community manager and not the ones who recruit people 🥹

[willow cargo]

ye you guys are still here listening. but only listening. nothing more.

[silk agate]

yeah i guess that’s that ? cause afaik, you can still get Bytes from trading in the PWE, and from random things like daily bonus, so thats the same as before the shutdown lol, and it’s good that way
(it’s kinda sad to see 90% of this discord hating every announcement made)

[unkempt lion]

Sorry we're not p2w like you

The issue is that most of the byte now comes through IAP.
P2W players get a head start, and by the time f2p players have grinded enough, the market is already dominated by p2w players.

[red barn]

So uhh, What is the daily limit?

[woeful shuttle]

10iq

[shell pike]

No ones listening us they only want money!

[vale urchin]

What! No way! I didn't know that! Yeah dude, not everything a player says should be listened to, but this is just too far and in this situation they should. You support P2W?

[arctic timber]

I know that they dont want sink our game at begin. Dont worry guys it will go as better as can

[pliant aurora]

it wasn’t about opening PW, the goal was actually to open P2W.

[novel bluff]

This bytes was promised to me 4000 years ago

[sleek solar]

But guys, we still have recycler :))

[golden agate]

3000

[fleet rose]

Hop on elden ring chat

[visual tartan]

Thats honestly the only problem, it shoyldnt be the main focus, it should be something that helps you progress, the more you spend the faster you progress, but it SHOULDNT be the main way to progress, its a faulty system that only gives them money, all these people that say its a good thing, and agree with that, they kissed the wall already.

[fickle wave]

Well yeah, nexus was a huge flop

[lean jetty]

listening but no action is NOTHING

[amber hawk]

Make it 10$/month and we chill

[graceful sluice]

Is it 6 million bytes or 271k ?

[sly ridge]

@harsh briar hello! 🍎 how are you doing my friend? Let that sink in.

[odd pine]

We should all just go back to ogps

[austere shadow]

oh yes lets nerf the recycler and instead compelete quests for 50byte coins cmon bro 😭😹😹
@harsh briar DO NOT CHANGE THE RECYCLER

[balmy compass]

no

[inland quarry]

https://youtu.be/Rztmxfbaefw?si=PwMpA1bqCoSfoSLO I reacted to the P2W aspect a couple days ago, and now it may have gotten worse.

[buoyant sedge]

where link download pc

[summer nacelle]

Damn

[true maple]

Only the people who’ve played PW for 2 days are mad about the byte change, lmao. They have no idea how economies work

[unkempt fjord]

not out

[fast plover]

Please let me convey it through Robot I want the clan name to be visible above the player name it is very good

[flint walrus]

yeah, ppl just follow the trends without actually thinking for themselves, its actually sad.

[sterile trench]

we should all just go back to terraria

[zenith osprey]

I hv 800-1000$ ready to rush 1M bytes and manipulate the market

[rose vine]

bro stop

[lyric garden]

67 recycle p2w bytes netherworld nexus station 2.0 clan name follow the trend manipulate iap limit!

[modern thunder]

yeah, this will probably end up being fine
it will be amazing to have absolutely no inflation

[mellow wing]

tuffest image, feel free to screenshot

[nocturne gulch]

1k down the drain 👇🏻

[pseudo gulch]

You sure about that? I and many others complaining have played for over 7-8 years or even since portal worlds

[compact knoll]

I envy your confidence brother

[prisma anvil]

Just make f2p bc easier to obtain and we Gucci

[valid mauve]

I’m Dante

(Mb gng)

[regal geode]

damn i was only gonna do 100 cause no manipulation exists if i own all the worlds XD

[inner cairn]

Remove byte coins ig🫶🏻

[trim cove]

Ey but thats true.. with 1000$-2000$ it is already enough to crash the market economy

[finite flame]

with which bytes? there will be some byte making it rare so your wing must cost 10 bytes to be "Okay" but p2w CAN get 100x by just 2 dollars. your work is just 10 byte. you can get infinite amount of gems with F2P but limited bytes which will inflate gems making the simplest thing 1 byte when 1000 is just 2 dollars...

[steep ether]

Add drinking in pixel worlds cuz gambling is already a thing ! @harsh briar

[fresh sandal]

And 100% inflation every week cuh!

[burnt willow]

sounds like someone isn't aware how healthy economies work

[jovial bobcat]

This is the best update ever! You guys...Respect us rich players as lot... 🥹

We can get 25k bytes just for 20 bucks?
Oh heck yeah! I'll be spending a lot! 🤑

Keep upgrading the P2W environment! This will keep us rich players fed up enough! 💸

[proud mist]

this is why the game is gonna die, thanks mate. thank you for your contribution for the death of the game again

[narrow mist]

Finally someone with some IQ this server full of dumbies

[grand bison]

We ALL spending 300$ on IAP

[brittle remnant]

But look at it in different way if u can buy 25k bytes for 19 dollars inflation would go up everyday

[stoic terrace]

they should level lock trading farming walking jumping and allow you to buy them for $19.99 on release

[hallow stirrup]

Hell no

[tight rivet]

Realistically for a start yes, but overtime when more bytes start appersing it will be a none issue

[zenith valley]

Hi

[nova valley]

Honestly, make the game even not free. Ur making strange feature that can ruin the whole economy. Make the game pay to dowload it, why not ?

[old jacinth]

make every player's total byte coins wipe every 1st day of month, there can't be inflation if byte coins can't inflate. problem solved.

[turbid tendon]

GUYS THEY DONT READ UR COMMENTS THEY JUST CANT WAIT FOR THE RERELEASE AND GET BUNCH OF MONEY OFF YAALL

[cold crag]

ai slop

[silk agate]

im not p2w lol, i basically cant afford to spend more than 5 euros on pixel worlds

[silent willow]

67 chain

67

[red barn]

There is a limit of how much u can spend

[coarse vector]

@harsh briar If this is true devs the game is dead from the start. We AT LEAST need gem conversions. I could get over it if it means they can be stable (even tho the original market crash primarily came from duping, instability can now only come from excessive IAPs day one)

[queen canopy]

Look, if Pixel Worlds went full pay-to-win and made Bytecoins "buy-only," it would basically rip the heart out of the game. The best part of PW has always been that "grind to glory" feeling starting with nothing but a basic pickaxe and working your way up to high-tier gear through pure effort. When you lock the main currency behind a credit card, you're telling the average player that their time and skill don't actually matter anymore.
​It would turn the social hubs into ghost towns because the free-to-play community, which is the backbone of the game, would just leave. Nobody wants to play a game where the leaderboard is just a list of who has the biggest bank account. Instead of a fun, thriving economy where everyone is trading and farming, it would just feel like a cheap mobile cash grab. Once that "work hard, get rich" magic is gone, there’s really no reason for anyone to stick around. The same mistake from nexus station, you guys are not learning from your mistakes and its getting worse

[unkempt dove]

have you ever played an mmo that has their main currency primarily obtained through in app purchases? Probably not. As time progresses, the amount of items in game increases exponentially, while bytes will remain relatively constant or grow at a slow rate (PWE tax removes some from the game, quests/recycler/etc adds some). Once the items significantly outnumber the bytecoins, you will either have to grind absurd amounts to fight for the limited amount of bytes in the economy, or fork over $20. This decision is purely to milk money from the community - it kills the entire idea of a player driven economy

[ionic snow]

Will wls be tradeable, if not. Whats gonna be the currency

[narrow wraith]

Soil blocks

[rugged hatch]

anything

[amber hawk]

Nether shields

[novel bluff]

I will find a way guys dw

[agile yarrow]

It is not. They said you can obtain LITTLE AMMOUNTS through gameplay. xDD

[last hinge]

Dw guys theres richters

[clever kelp]

this is a good announcement the only ones hating are indonesians.

[zenith osprey]

Im literally helping the devs to pay their billing and help "Circulate BC to the game"
And i know theres a limit but who says i only got 1 device

[sharp finch]

☠️

[fleet rose]

https://tenor.com/view/we-breaking-bad-walter-white-gif-14928204287258878513

[hearty rampart]

so if you can buy bytecoins directly for money, doesnt that mean the wishing well is just like a slot machine?

[odd pine]

I love how there is so much hate for the bc , and the mods choose to not do anything abt it

[woeful shuttle]

before u could get 12k for 20$.
a bit more than before but considering the overall reduction in bytecoin grind methods the inflation will reduce by alot.

[sly ridge]

GUYS LISTEN

DW ABOUT SOCIAL FIRST RUINING THE GAME WE HAVE @novel bluff who will save us

[gloomy zephyr]

Yeah ? What u gon buy with 5 byte coin that you earn from quest ?

[true maple]

Every single mmo bro. YOU clearly have no experience. Black desert, diablo, every Chinese mmo EVERY single one of them is still THRIVING with trading being a big part of the game with premium currency.

[austere shadow]

ok what do you guys think, Should The Recycler Be Nerfed?

[tardy narwhal]

Exactlyyyy

[strong pollen]

Thank you @novel bluff for saving us

[fickle wave]

Hi air

[void carbon]

Not too much on siskea

[trim cove]

Yo I just realised lol true

[lean jetty]

pls delay the release, i get paid on the 4th 😭

[finite flame]

Yes, there will be more bytes by each day but so do GEMS. and gems will be always easier to get then bytes.. so tell me why shouldn't gems won't get worthless? a wing which can be bought will cost 10 bytes but a limited one will cost 100m. and if bytes get this rare, then it's bound to be used in blackmarrket which is also a big problem.

[elder moon]

rage bait

[inner cairn]

project reboot on top🔝

[restive robin]

so are wls are tradeable?

[jaunty fable]

has richters even played pw

[unkempt fjord]

no

[candid grail]

3 second in ppl start spamming cards tap cash top 25k byte coins just to flex debt and host giveaway for spleef

[eternal swallow]

bytecoins are so overrated

[old jacinth]

can we just not use pwe and trade with each other instead

[worn stag]

After thinking about it, this is a good idea! We should make a dark pixie wing bundle too!

[edgy reef]

pw is so cooked

[nocturne gulch]

Soil new currency

[nova valley]

Please make all the buttons just for money, we need to pay to log in the game atp

[ancient prism]

Dark pixie for 10$ with extra free 200k bytes

[spark lintel]

So we are only trading and quessing prices..

[balmy compass]

DUUUDE GREAT IDEA, AND THEN THERE WILL BE "TALKING BUNDLE" WHERE YOU CAN TALK AS MUCH AS U WANT (f2p players get 5 words per minute max)

[main tulip]

alr

[sly kelp]

How do we value our items? Dark pixie 1000bc, green visor 400?

[turbid tendon]

She will have my back when pw releases ❤️ (if u know u know)

[pliant aurora]

P2W players will drive inflation

[rough sapphire]

pw is fine

[queen canopy]

I now know why Jake left.😭

[native plank]

sped idiot

[misty mango]

buy all dm

[stoic terrace]

yeah lets also defend IAPs on release that'll allow people spending ANY amount of money on the game to lock every english word in existence
as well as level locking small locks and large locks to make sure anyone that isnt spending money cant get more than 1 world
lets also defend them level locking everything in existence to farm playtime
this game is turning into clash royale 🥹

[round notch]

no g2g...

[wet thorn]

Who

[gray loom]

So bad

[ripe kestrel]

https://tenor.com/view/my-honest-reaction-walk-stand-gif-25967478

[agile yarrow]

That's why it's bad that you can buy BC. Game econ would be RUINED QUICKLY. Well, last time I played, items were like 1k bc already. I think it would not affect too much later on.

[leaden wind]

daily cap on iaps is 500 dollars or so i think

[tropic oasis]

can we send the devs to lvl 5 netherworld with no gear

[gloomy zephyr]

Through iap that 100k bc pack gets you 100 dark pixies while f2p guy grinds a whole year get that 1k bc lmao it's a huuge headstart for whales

[frail gyro]

[sage heath]

What’s the cap!!!!! How much money can I spend

[finite flame]

Boycott Byte Coins! #BBC

[gilded mural]

Chill guys lets hear some song

[tardy sentinel]

[fickle wave]

yq

[short tendon]

peak song

[silk agate]

yeah, that’s true tho, i hope the devs took that into account ? idk

[wet cove]

Yo

[proud mist]

so theres no point for a cap then ffs

[drifting marlin]

P

[fresh sandal]

Nice addition, even Steam caps daily top-ups for ultra compulsive gamblers!

Mah drilla!

[crisp aurora]

Daily limit won't do sht bro we will just get inflation

[lean jetty]

PEAK SONG

[upbeat ember]

mntp

[edgy reef]

cry

[steep ether]

w change

[sly kelp]

I remember having to buy pwe machines with gems to get bytes😅

[candid grail]

chill guys im gonna make pixel world better from now on WE all going to use spike bomb as new currency ho with me

[nova valley]

How devs feel with this update

[digital sierra]

is gems still can change to byte coin in shop?

[quick ibex]

buuuuuu

[novel rock]

Nah

[obsidian temple]

F2P players gonna grind commodities -> whalers gonna trade it for bc->repeat the cycle-> hoora currencies distribution succeed

Is this the correct terms? My 3rd world brain are too stupid for this

[rare cloud]

🥹🥹

[charred arch]

no thats the whole change u can only get bc from IAP basically

[rose vector]

Okay guys so here is my opinion

[novel bluff]

Can yall slow down? I cant read that fast while driving.

[teal echo]

Alright.. hear me out...

[old jacinth]

let's use wiring tool as a currency

[ionic snow]

I mean yall do have to understand social first is money hungry. Literally greedy, what they are doing right now was their original plan for the game social first or nexus station whatever it was called. But they realized that nobody played their bad game, (it was really bad). So they decided to bring pixel worlds back, haha how fun we got pixel worlds, oh no wait it is pay to win. Obviously everything has always been pay to win yet they say the game micro was illegal since it is gambling, bro we used money in the game let us at least have fun. And yeah world locks are also untradeable, which forces people to buy byte coins even though many don't have access to it. As said pay to win, Siskea you ain't slick. Greedy.

[amber hawk]

Well we need to wait 5 minutes ig

[hallow imp]

XD

[prisma anvil]

Quests, trading, pwe...

[gloomy zephyr]

Guys I think we should move on from this game that's the only sensible thing I can think of atp

[grand bison]

Peak song fr

[balmy compass]

lets go play minecraft bro

[proven harbor]

I got rickrolled

[plush sandal]

Players should not be able to just buy byte coins it literally messes the economy up n causes p2w players to be richest instead of players who actually play the game dawg💔🙏

[inner cairn]

Project reboot on top!

[dark ingot]

Why they just can keep byte coins for gems

[proud mist]

just boycott the game at this point

[drowsy vapor]

Just gotta speed

[silk agate]

hi

[modern thunder]

they took so long to release a pw copy the actual game released before them bro 😭 😭

[mellow wing]

hi

[candid grail]

we gonna mass farming candy block soil and lava block lets go lets go easy profit ill make a video how to profit first day (sneak peak:job)

[nova valley]

Btw what are the alternatives to pw to play? Like are there actual pw related games ? Cuz this shi won't be playable Ig

[finite flame]

Social first? nah more like Money first

[woeful shuttle]

bytecoins have always been purchasable for money 👨🏿‍🌾 🥀 🧑🏿‍🦽

[late token]

So the hero event will be the most expensive thing here? Cuz it was byte base

[lean jetty]

The End

[willow solar]

How about every 100 pullups/pushups/squats you get 100 byte coins

[solid blade]

fire suggestion

[old jacinth]

instead of gem soil, make byte soil

[fresh sandal]

Looks-maxxing + BC maxxing?! Count me in!

[twilit bane]

Not too much p2w

[fathom prawn]

Are buttons also unlockable with money?

[brittle remnant]

Just add end dimension update💔

[weary hinge]

Wherte is download link

[reef pasture]

Alright Pixel Worlds, we need to talk

[grand bison]

Wrong game brochalo🥀 🙏

[gloomy zephyr]

Shush ,wait 5 mins now

[burnt laurel]

What do you guys thunk about this?

[shut jacinth]

this game is not lasting more than a few years at max im sorry

[misty mango]

I think

[amber hawk]

He means the update that will end something, not the end dimension update

[ionic snow]

I mean yall do have to understand social first is money hungry. Literally greedy, what they are doing right now was their original plan for the game social first or nexus station whatever it was called. But they realized that nobody played their bad game, (it was really bad). So they decided to bring pixel worlds back, haha how fun we got pixel worlds, oh no wait it is pay to win. Obviously everything has always been pay to win yet they say the game micro was illegal since it is gambling, bro we used money in the game let us at least have fun. And yeah world locks are also untradeable, which forces people to buy byte coins even though many don't have access to it. As said pay to win, Siskea you ain't slick. Greedy.

[sharp finch]

few years is good

[steep ether]

HOW DOES THE PLAYERS DONT UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN STILL GET BYTES EVEN YOU DONT BUY THEM by the NPCS AND GRINDING GEMS!!!!

[tardy narwhal]

They do but its very littlle, its isnt worth the work you put in

[hearty rampart]

we should rename pw to p2w

[crude sky]

What npcs?

[true maple]

Wow almost like it’s a more valuable currency 🤯🤯🤯🤯

[native plank]

Tell me how much bytes you can get by gameplay if you know its "very little"

[candid grail]

Drop game is the new profit method for update🔥🔥

[winter valley]

does bro read what they said? 💀 you cant buy bc for gems

[whole skiff]

BYTE THINGY TRASH AND CANT USE WL FOR BYTES

[burnt shell]

Yeah you can get 50 byte coins from the daily spin if you are lucky and the whales are gonna get 10 000 for 10 bucks, this truly balances the economy

[stoic terrace]

yeah giving people spending money on release access to the entire item supply and giving them full control over the economy (including worlds) is super f2p friendly 🥰

[finite flame]

since this is MMO, people will not use byte since everyone will lack it and use other methods, then what will they do? make that untradeable?

[inner cairn]

update isnt bad, P2W players is our Byte coins supplier lmao

[near scarab]

bro wym more stable doesnt ts mean like since it will still be obtainable by small amount through gameplay people will just increase the byte amount for the item till theres enough in the circulation?

[lean jetty]

Peak 🌌

[twilit egret]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-drooling-patrick-star-spongebob-movie-drooling-slime-gif-525340425450564005

[reef pasture]

You couldve just put Invincible

[ember stump]

hi

[gloomy zephyr]

At this point we should just bomb social first head quarter in Finland it's ww3 it won't Even make a difference 🔥 where my muslim brothers at

[old jacinth]

how can you spend gems though

[sharp garden]

same way as before

[fringe rune]

@harsh briar

[silver vapor]

You guys are too ungrateful be happy that pixelworlds is returning.

[sharp ice]

If IAP is your power, what are you without it

[brittle remnant]

This new logo is fire 🔥

[torn field]

toxic positivity just makes things worse

[heady wharf]

who cares if it returns if its unplayable 😭

[jovial bobcat]

Can we get more companians beside siskea? She's struggling to reply to us all alone.

[steep ether]

Listen here pixel worlds,im pretty angry !👹👹👹

[candid grail]

growtopia have more p2w than ts fr ngl asl

[plush marsh]

Being happy the game is returning doesnt mean we cant criticize it.
giving feedback is what helps the game improve, not blindly accepting everything

[ripe kestrel]

💳 💳 💳

[stoic terrace]

they're separating bytecoins from wls making them a premium currency primarily accessible by p2w players (making them relatively much more valuable), and also giving p2w players much more control over the rare world supply. you're trying to tell me these changes have no negative effect on the economy and makes it "stable"? it just allows whales to control it making them more money. thats all they care about, stop defending a fallen company powered by greed.

[indigo quiver]

Can we purchase with steam wallet

[mellow wing]

goated block

[glass trellis]

Makes wayy more sense if i just use your username and your pfp as its talking to you, not invincible series.

[nova valley]

Make game purchaseable, make everything p2w, game won't live long with these updates anyways

[earnest sky]

Make you purchasable

[light halo]

Negative Nancy’s

[glossy stirrup]

Old System (Bad):
Player farms 100k Gems.
Player buys 10 World Locks from the shop.
Now there are MORE World Locks in the game.
Because there is too much money, prices go up.
My 1 World Lock becomes worthless. (Inflation)
New System (Better):
Player farms 100k Gems.
Player CANNOT buy Byte Coin from the shop.
Player buys a "Cool Sword" with Gems.
Player sells the "Cool Sword" to another player for 10 Byte Coins.
The total Byte Coins in the game STAYS THE SAME.
Money stays valuable. Prices stay stable. (No Inflation)

[loud aspen]

WHAT DO THE GRINDERS DO WITH GEMS THEN IF WE CANT BUY BYTES

[reef pasture]

5 minutes and you came up with that?

[umbral veldt]

World locks couldn't be traded, What do you even talk about bruh...

[charred arch]

dude u do know that there were ways to remove bc in the old verison pwe tax, sceret base particals, and the auction events jake hosted like the world @love and the epic water guns

[torn field]

well yea but the whales will just have 100x more byte coins

[feral steppe]

I'm gonna swipe and waste my money and gamble on packs like a true GACHA player

[woeful shuttle]

if they want to use that byte coin then it will end up in the hands of f2p players aswell 🤡

[jovial bobcat]

imagine if the old dupe method works and then the server dies down again 😭

[candid grail]

Chill small lock is still tradable guys

[prisma anvil]

Fun fact, thats also how real life works

[amber hawk]

What if the sword isn't cool huh? Better think before you type

[wanton jasper]

Same prices is bad because like in the real world a steady inflation is necessary to make the economy grow

[steep ether]

Hi react to this

[rocky latch]

this makes no sense if you are able to purchase bytes via IAP

[willow tree]

so whats the currency gonna be if byte coins are harder to get?

[gray loom]

So bad

[proven harbor]

it would be like this if you couldn't just buy bytes with real money right away

[fathom prawn]

Probably golden dirt blocks

[coarse seal]

thats for the community to figure out. they implied that this is something we can do and its allowed

[stoic terrace]

they're separating bytecoins from wls making them a premium currency primarily accessible by p2w players (making them relatively much more valuable), and also giving p2w players much more control over the rare world supply. you're trying to tell me these changes have no negative effect on the economy and makes it "stable"? thats just not true, inflation remains and just becomes exclusive to a certain group allowing whales to control the economy, making them more money. thats all they care about, stop defending a fallen company powered by greed.

[glass trellis]

my man.

[gloomy zephyr]

Gold blocks from mines should be the new currency

[errant jackal]

By the seems of it players are able to buy Bytecoins with real life $$$. This alone is a massive issue that can lead to the wealthier people to buy bytes, and then use that wealth to inflate prices as we F2Players are stuck on grinding that isnt as rewarding anymore due to how this system will work.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, I wanna be wrong so bad. Because if I'm right, inflation wont be prevented and it may destroy the economy in weeks if it isnt the first week.

[reef pasture]

Just use my face for that, instead of sypehrpk’s bro

[torn field]

well games are not irl and you cannot buy money irl you work to get money irl which translates to games as grinding

[dusk flume]

THIS! Thank you for education these fools, they dont see the vision

[woeful shuttle]

you could buy bytecoins with real money before aswell. somebody has to get the items that bytecoins are spent on.

[brazen shoal]

P2w already exists irl 😔😔😔

[chilly surge]

qqwweerrttyyuuiiooppaassddffgghhjjkkllzzxxccvvbbnnmm

[amber hawk]

Meme template

[proven harbor]

dudes be turning anything into reaction image

[modern thunder]

🥺

[stoic terrace]

you COULD buy them, but they were FAR from exclusive to buying them, they were primarily something you grind for with paying being a second option
now they're exclusively a premium currency that you can ONLY get if you pay (or sell your items to whales, who control the supply of bytecoins)

[ionic snow]

Don't make anything other than gems and vip buyable. Make byte coins much more expensive to buy with gems, still making it rare and hard. Don't do pay to win

[fathom prawn]

Game devs:What do you think about this?

90% players:we don't like it!
10% player with a 9-5 job:yes we love it those other guys complaining are just potatoes

Game devs:b-but it's good for the game and economy and we don't want to change it!(We love you whales)

[errant jackal]

Yes, I know that, but theyre limiting F2P now by limiting the byte coins they could get before this change.. they also changed the fact that you cant buy byte coins with gems anymore.. this gives more power to the people who have money to spend on the game, right? Which can allow them to control the economy more, right?

[charred arch]

what are u trying to say here because your arguemt doesnt make sense yes you could buy byte coins before but free to play players were also able to get byte coins in this new verison only pay to win players can get byte coins free to players cant

[willow solar]

Ty

[hushed vessel]

thisss i dont get how it is p2w lol when u can trade ur way up

[sly kelp]

so we earn like max 50bytes a day if f2p

[glass trellis]

@white dust drop another controversial announcement, these users FIEND for discussion.

[humble mirage]

If yall broke just say that

[kindred locust]

Trade profiting and doing PWE transactions has always been the meta.

[prisma anvil]

There should be more non profit options to whale on as well

[torn field]

i am tho...

[narrow wraith]

who decides the prices of rare items you get from packs?

[woeful shuttle]

@sly kelp @charred arch @errant jackal
Vinouu: "Yeah, what will the people that paid use BC for? exactly, trading. thats how the F2P will be able to get BC. by actually trading instead of sitting 8 hours with macro and just spamming buy button on the shop."
honestly if you don't get this you are an idiot.

[narrow mist]

They actually lack iq, the only problem with this announcement is that IAP shouldnt be the main way to get bytecoins, especially early game

[sacred lotus]

How much even are VIPs?

[obsidian sand]

yeah, this change favors those with 6-7 jobs instead of those with 1 shower away since pw shut down

[teal lotus]

Yep, throws away the whole grinding purpose with making it purchase only

[twilit bane]

This keeps the game on not going to be broke btw

[errant jackal]

I see the vision, my apologies for being a blind. Thank you for your clarification.

[weary wolf]

600k gems through IAP is far too much, especially if you're trying to avoid inflation.

[final coral]

They either need to increase chances of getting gems and bc or this game will die soon enough

[unkempt lion]

BUT WHATS THE POINT OF GEMS IF WE CANT DO ANYTHING WITH THEM !!!!!!

[shut jacinth]

repost this guys

[rigid spindle]

make VIP into tradeable item is anice idea,

not only it make player feel obligated to play daily (cuz the daily gems bonus) and boost economy (player would try to sell their stuff if get reduced taxes).

it will also give good portofolio for the game as well, as more player will go online daily.

for handling dupe, you can use unique code (serial number) to each important item (like irl money), make it more traceable and harder to dupe, as dupe will also dupe the item serial number, make it invalid.

[reef zephyr]

🇸 🇭 🇴 🇵

[arctic timber]

This will destroy the game

[wanton jasper]

At this point are we playing pixel worlds or shop simulator

[brazen shoal]

Feels like were going back to nexus station now all over again

[woeful shuttle]

yeah, IAP's should be disabled for the first week but honestly that is not an option for social first. The company is facing bankruptcy.

another message to @unkempt lion : you can buy the booster packs, they are important in the early game. Maybe Social First is considering the fact that booster packs are useless later on and will add other ways to spend accordingly.

[hushed vessel]

everyone. everyone decides by TRADING and agree for what its worth, the point of the currency is to be accessible both by paying and building your way up by trading. basically its extra effort for people who are free to play and easier for people who spend but its not impossible for f2p. (for example: i buy a gem pack worth 1k gems and its worth 5 bitcoins).

[hallow stirrup]

so technically if they listen to the community they should revert the byte changes right?

[stoic terrace]

ur arguement makes 0 sense, this change affects the entire economy and allows certain groups to control it, while ALSO limiting anyone thats not actively spending money. its the equivalent of hoarding in old pw (same thing that caused a LOT of inflation btw) except its with the game's GLOBAL CURRENCY, theres no way you actually think it makes the economy stable, u gotta be a plant 😭😭

[glass trellis]

Im skeptical here, where did you get your information about Social first facing bankruptcy?

[narrow wraith]

dang trading will be so confusing at the start

[idle jungle]

Pw will shutdown in 2027 again they already ruined it

[weary wolf]

Exactly but people don't get this

[modern thunder]

not fake btw

[errant gull]

pixel worlds is out now guys

[teal lotus]

son

[narrow mist]

Listen dumbies, IAP is not the problem, the game needs to be making a profit or it wont exist, there has always been gems for $ which can be traded for bytecoins so this is basically the same. Now the problem is, the amount you get in the packs, IAP shouldnt be the main way to get bytecoins especially early game… how to fix this? Reduce the packs (600k gems first day and 25k bytes is crazy), increase ways to earn bytes in game in a controlled way, create different tax systems like the PWE to remove bytes from the game! thats it… @harsh briar

[lean ingot]

This is very smart move from social first. Able to get their 2 million € back which they spend during creating Nexus flop Station

[turbid tendon]

WILL IT BE PREDOWNLOADABLE BEFORE SERVERS GO ONLINE???

[fervent gulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1488176391626293278/1488206564606218482/SPOILER_IMG_20260327_113019.png?ex=69cbefde&is=69ca9e5e&hm=fbb6676c5a30f13aa4b25b3fabd2193f71c3a3159ebd9c5791564fef9928312f&

[woeful shuttle]

Sounds like you are sad that afk bot farming is being taken way.

[hollow spear]

true

[rough venture]

OMG PIXEL WORLDS IS OUT GUYS!

[small sierra]

how many hrs from now?

[hushed vessel]

don't get me wrong tho, its very centered to p2w players so i kinda dont like it

[amber hawk]

Yes, pixel worlds are out

[fathom prawn]

Even growtopia with 20x more playerbase at time of its peak 2017-2020(7years old game) with good bot to player ratio did not struggle with inflation. Only guys with money to spend will really play this game. Having terrible iap is not the problem it's limiting players with something that should be non limited, you are dividing the whole playerbase into OWNERS and slves,

LETS MAKE NORMAL BAMBOO ROD THE MAIN TRADING CURRENCY

[stoic terrace]

sounds like you have no counter arguement that works in your favorite money hungry company's favor so you're trying to reflect your way out of it 😭

[unborn crow]

❤️

[narrow wraith]

Atp i might aswell grind netherworld open packs and hold onto legendary items

[wanton jasper]

Honestly peoples argument is just that urs is false couse u poor but they don't see the future implications on the economy as a whole and how unstable the p2w model really is

[lusty temple]

I think this decision doesn't really impact f2p much, as the optimal source of bytecoins has always been trading, but I am unsure as to if this is healthy for the overall economy. I think this decision may result in more bytecoins leaving the economy than are generated due to tax rates.

[woeful shuttle]

17-2020 the bot to player ratio was so much smaller than today. Just look at growtopias inflation today, 300x in 2 years.

another message: @stoic terrace there was simply nothing to counter arguement. What you said made 0 sense, brainless bs. If you want a serious reply then make an actual point.

[fathom prawn]

Yeah how long do you think it took for gt economy to struggle with little to no burning mechanism unlike PW pwe? 10years I'm not gonna play pw for 10 years

[void zenith]

Wait "primary introduced from purchase", ayo wutt. So we went heavy into IAP??

[formal juniper]

This CHANGE many thing. You were able to get gems=byte. What does this mean? Thats mean you can get free bytes from fishing/mining/farmin etc... And doing these things were FREE. Thats mean FREE gems. So what? FREE gems=FREE bytes because you were able to get gems for bytes. But now the only way is SPENDING MONEY.

[drowsy moth]

people gonna start trading random blocks and items as a currency, due to lack of byte coins in circulation

[obtuse sleet]

They making the game worse with every announcement lol

[hushed vessel]

100%

[woeful shuttle]

??? its been struggling for ages, why do you think bgls were introduced to begin with. Now its at the point they might have to add a new type of a lock. At the beginning dl's were the luxury of the richest, shortly after everyone had alot of them.

@formal juniper no. you can still get free byte coins by selling to other players the stuff you got from those very activities.

[cold crane]

a

[fresh sandal]

No ones slaving you cuh, even the players are MONEY FIRST in this game. Just have fun and play the normal game progression man, rare items arent even acquired yet, rare worlds arent even owned yet. BC are not the only thing that makes u rich, items can also and fun/good memories makes a game GOOD.

[unborn crow]

But only the ones who pay real money influence the price

[deep beacon]

i was gonna spend money but not anymore, p2w lmao or should i say p2l cuz u cant win in this game

[hallow stirrup]

if they dont revert ts playerbase boutta leave in under 2months

[formal juniper]

You just trying to glaze or does not understand my point. Ofcourse you can get bytes with trading items LIKE EXACTLY SAME AS BEFORE. But my whole topic means the guy you sold your items for bytecoins spent real money for them.

[fathom prawn]

Are we gonna trade melons for items now instead of bc?

• Wls still untradable
• bytes are not free
• pwe burns more than the generated bc

@woeful shuttle new locks don't necessarily means bad inflation,in 2020(when i came back to the game) gems to wl conversion ratio is still healthy 1600+1800/wl and 1900/wl for packs or boosters in pw term, having 1bgl still gives you RICH status. Can you call a good wl to gem ratio economically struggling?so why do you think having bytes accesible for free is bad? I'd say pw has better burning method that gt at that time of pw peak when devs still care gems to wl/bc is almost 1:1

[stoic terrace]

when i said your argument is false i explained how its false and the reality of it, your counterargument is "sounds like you are sad", im honestly starting to think ur just siskea on an alt account 😭😭😭

[obtuse sleet]

Makes sense that less bytes in circulation but wls being untradible is eh

[drowsy moth]

and then you gotta go to like 25 worlds just to check the price on random stuff so you dont get scammed, in the long run i think it will eventually land on a stable item for trading but in the beginning this is gonna be hell

[narrow wraith]

i mean if world lock tradable then whats the point of limiting bc

[calm pendant]

can't wait to spend $$$ and just buy what I want with money I worked hard for 😋

[cedar ridge]

When the game release on my phone?

[thorn nexus]

economy cooked?

[atomic wagon]

in 25 yrs

[soft vector]

What time is the Indonesian ?

[wanton jasper]

Atleast someone is not hiding behind the economy will be better argument and speaking what you all glazers cant admit

[iron depot]

@soft vector, #1488153135540207767 message

[crisp dove]

This is best update ever, so good for economy, just sad community full of cry babies

[woeful shuttle]

@fathom prawn : 1 bgl definetly doesnt give you the rich status these days. the value of 1 bgl 2 years ago was 40€, now 1 bgl is less than 1€. if we are speaking about gt today, the gem to wl ratio is hopeless now. i havent done the math but its like less than 500 gems to wl.

@formal juniper : at the very beginning yes, but you know, there is literally 0 point for them having the byte coins if they dont spend them, thus they will end up on the peoples hands who actually played the game and acquired the items.

[plush marsh]

Bro can i ask you something?
What make you so sure people gonna buy stuff?
Because BC is scarce then its also mean the buying power in game is also decerased

Aint nobody gonna spent their bc on some block or random stuff

[formal juniper]

Making bytecoins only available with money gives NEXUS STATION VIBES. We all say greedysoft, moneysoft, etc... to Ubisoft. But with this move Social First deserve "MONEY FIRST ". And Nexus Station was impossible to play without spending money and game has 0 players now. L move without even releasing game. Sorry but such a L reboot.

[frail gyro]

True

[stoic terrace]

well yea theres less bc in circulation but that in itself isnt a good or bad thing, we're playing with an entirely different economy so theres no relativity.
the negative side of things is that the economy is controlled by people who have bc at the start (spenders obviously, since you cant even obtain them reasonably), and the world supply is also mostly controlled by people spending money (they're making sure this happens by making small/medium locks unaccessable on release while wls are accessible to spenders) so it brings more harm than good by far.

[tired depot]

let us trade wls

[brittle remnant]

Pw should also have pay to move it would make the game soo much better

[winged wraith]

Reading this chat holy this community is insufferable, i feel bad for the devs ngl

[obtuse sleet]

Bro people who willing to spend even 200$ on the game will just be the richest forever

[fathom prawn]

You are talking about this days I'm talking about the 10year stability the other game gave. Bytes is not the problem it's about how the devs will treat its community. Even pw after the devs left the economy crushed exponentially. I hope you give me better replies next because you ain't getting my argument right or you just don't have good reading comprehension no offense bro i love you❤️

[hushed vessel]

6 7 vip packs please

[woeful sage]

The only reason why they made wls to bytes was to transition the currency, and you could just buy wls with gems anyways and gems with iap, isn’t there no difference?

[fresh sandal]

Guys, its called WORLD LOCKS for a reason, not FOR TRADE LOCKS/CURRENCY LOCKS. 🤗

[sturdy plank]

so bytes is just like robux now and wls are tix 😭

[unkempt lion]

LITERALLY

[agile yarrow]

This is so spot on

[jolly fox]

So its p2w now

[rancid spruce]

Everyone mad because they broke

[stoic terrace]

couldnt have said it better myself
its crazy how some people dont see how this has a negative effect 😭
the only argument ive been hearing is "you must be broke to hate having a bad economy"

[thick beacon]

after all maybe the relaunch gonna be buns

[quiet merlin]

YESSS MAKE IT P2W

[lusty temple]

Now that I think of this, this might actually be genius. market will self regulate to some extent, if BC are ever highly valued then the amount of people buying them will increase proportionate to the perceived value. On the other hand, if bc is ever a poorly valued currency, then the amount of people buying them will decrease, up to the point where it deflates via taxation. This makes BC highly stable in theory

[fathom prawn]

We'll I'll also pay to win can't say I'm broke it just disappointing that we can't have something rewarding for free.

Day 1 asking the community to make Bamboo rod the main trading currency.

[woeful shuttle]

@plush marsh : if they dont spend it then it makes the game more f2p friendly no? there is no other benefit to it than spending it

@fathom prawn : I do get your point but I just wanted to point out that the inflation has been accelerating expotentionally. "Bytes is not the problem it's about how the devs will treat its community." Exactly my point, the people here are focusing on the wrong thing. I don't trust the devs, but I want to give them a chance. If we look past the distrust the community has on the devs the changes made to bytecoins don't seem that bad. Ofcourse since we don't trust the devs these changes make it seems like a money grab.

[winged wraith]

If you look at the game warframe, they use this exact system. Their economy is one of the best i've ever seen, balances itselfs/

[drowsy dock]

So does this mean its impossible to be wealthy in the game without paying?

[plush marsh]

No man i don't think people who buy bc for real money gonna buy some random stuff

Matter of fact i think this gonna make lots of items is unsellable in pw like a common item from gacha,block etc

[woeful sage]

Yes very true, because if by someone just buys byte, things will rise in price just to make up for it, prices never really change, just adapts, correct me if I’m wrong

[silk agate]

legendary pfp

[small sail]

Ngl this will make fishing and mining much more difficult but also more fun, and those are imo the best parts of the game so its an ok change

[calm pendant]

speak for yourself twin, I'll be buying random cute stuff I see on the PWE 😛😛😛

[sharp finch]

its a certain group of people

[narrow wraith]

nah u can be wealthy by spam buying packs and hoarding the rare items u get from them

[odd pine]

The problem is that p2w players are gonna ruin everything

[fresh hearth]

yes

[fresh sandal]

Its the anti-rich-wanna-be-rich-while-F2P squad

[agile yarrow]

NOTHING in EARLY GAME RELEASE would be considered "random". You can't farm magic stuff without dirt. Same goes for EVERYTHING. People might even farm water from random worlds to make fishing worlds or sell them to the world owners. Isn't gem purchase enough? You can buy thousands of gangster pack and get thousands of BBB in the first day.

[stoic terrace]

it gives a small group COMPLETE control over the supply
on release, they can literally decide how much items cost and what bytecoins should be worth, and its entirely up to that small group and not the game's community, do you see how that can go wrong in the long term? think of hoarding items in pw, when a few people can control the supply of an item, they can make it rise drastically under command.

@plush marsh ur right. people who spend money wont be buying everything in the game, making some items much more expensive than others just because its more demanded by that group of people. ignore whatever this person says they dont know how demand works ✌️

[sly kelp]

What do we do with fishgems when we cant buy bytes?

[boreal torrent]

can someone explains how bc going work? yes im stupid i dont know that long allah
Edit: Yes this message is a message bait

[unborn crow]

Look at the big number

[lusty temple]

I didn't consider the similarities with warframe at all, but its not very arguable that game has one of the best in game economies despite having its main tradeable currency locked behind a paywall. It looks sketchy, but this is actually great change from the devs, very excited for this

[pale crow]

We aren't going to waste a message which cooldown is 5min
Edit: Yes this message is pure ragebait

[fathom prawn]

Ok our argument is done we finally agreed with one thing.players will find another trading currency anyways since most of the players will just play the game for fun and dont have the money(i mean it's meant to be played by kids)bytes will be like GOLDS from albion online it's probably gonna be crypto currency of PW

Make BAMBOO ROD the main trading currency

[finite flame]

sounds familiar

[drowsy dock]

But ngl when i think about, this aint tht bad, i mean all u need to do is grind gems, buy some pack and sell those item in pwe, then once u hv enough byte just start mining or fishing and sell gemstone or fish for byte, ngl this aint even tht bad, but i think P2W player should have a limit on how many time they can buy iap in a day.

Lowkey this would balance the economy and avoid the game having many bytes.

[lean ingot]

Imagine Dark pixies will be 10k each 😂😂

[steep ether]

i meant buy wl and the trad ethem to npc

[wanton jasper]

More like 10 bytes each

[hollow talon]

But you cant sell the items in pwe if there is a tax to begin with

[modern thunder]

you sell them to other people for bytes???

[bright badger]

imma spend the defense budget on pw

[woeful sage]

Dp was only historically expencive because they were first, and they were super og when the player count was low. It’ll be like pixie wings when we join bc there will be so many of them

[small sail]

We need to make an item non-obtainable by gems to be the new currency. Bamboo rods can still be obtained through the gem store unless you are talking about bamboo fine and above

[sharp finch]

buy item-> sell for bytes its simple really

[steep ether]

hi

[frigid sierra]

The point is who buying them cuz it's hard to get bytecoins do you think they will trade it for that lol nah

[fluid bronze]

looking for members for our guild we need people over 18 with brains please

[fresh hearth]

yes we need that

[late token]

So are we ignoring the hero event? Because blue particle cost bytes and prob it would be the most expensive event

[brittle remnant]

Frr

[thick beacon]

Changing something that doesn’t need to be fixed

[plush marsh]

Fr man and the only thing you can sell is only good item

Because i don't think anybody gonna buy common item anymore cuz BC is scarce

[fathom prawn]

10k bytes will be like 1500dollars(dont sell it for real money its just a reference of how valuable it is)so it's worth it since bytes will be very stable

If you dont like bamboo lets make DISPLAY BLOCK or SAFE VAULT the main game currency
@small sail what about these items?

@late token thats how Dev's will PALDO(stonks)

[narrow wraith]

epic pwr went from hard to get --> impossible to get

[drowsy dock]

There is definitely a way to get some byte coin so we can use the pwe for starting, probably like through missions and daily gifts, so i dont think this is a big problem, it just balancing the economy, but they need to do something about p2w, they need to limit the byte or item tht they cn buy in a day

So basically farm gems>buy pack>sell item through pwe, buy mining or fishing stuff, sell gemstone or fish to other people for bytes

[lusty temple]

Assuming that by supply you mean BC, That would require every single paying player to work together in some sort of grand conspiracy and still wouldn't work as there are limited sources of bc for non paying players. Not a very likely situation. This is the same economic system warframe uses and it works great over there. Definitely be some instability as there is with any economy early on but the beauty of this system is that the market will always course correct itself.

[viral geode]

p2w fr now

[woeful shuttle]

it will probably be as you say initially. However, long term it should balance itself out as the currency gets more evenly distributed over time.
also you are assuming that every player who buys bytes will act the same way. Ofcourse a bigger part of the early coin supply will go towards the first big drops but its not 100% of the supply. For example, I know I will spend coins when I cant be bothered to get something in the supposed way.

[fresh sandal]

Siskea said they will have daily limit on IAP

[torpid gale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1433036132115025920/1488089634746667119/SPOILER_Screenshot_2026-03-30-10-58-59-493_com.kukouri.wizworld.jpg?ex=69cb82f8&is=69ca3178&hm=56c2dec8768a3e46e14fb4fbd3194424d4b1b792ba9b9b2ebfa69c590fac28e5&

[void zenith]

+1 for bamboo rod main currency +2 for display block main

[boreal torrent]

dude why not fishgems > bytes?

[fallen wagon]

Daily limit of 500€ probably

[late token]

Inshort, price inflation for hero items and also most of them are trash and they would just get the shoutgun, robot quest etc

[wanton jasper]

Pixel worlds isnt even out of the grave and it's already getting burried 💀

[errant jackal]

Well said! That kind of reminded me of how I was in old PW. Like I already knew but I didnt feel anything toward it now. Getting alot of bytecoins isn't the only way to get rich, making good memories and having a lot of fun is great too.

[versed quarry]

Why the hell would you guys make byte coins behind money 😭

[fathom prawn]

Good night guys happy arguing

Main Currency voting:
Display block(2points)
Safe Vault(0points)

How to vote:
Put +1 or +2 for items you like

[craggy sierra]

they were always bro

[amber hawk]

Yall just grab recyclers and generate bytes

[unborn crow]

They should do a final poll

[woeful shuttle]

game will release tomorrow, they wont change it.

[pale crow]

Mining Gems

[lusty temple]

soil seeds

[fresh hearth]

no

[silk agate]

fr

[static remnant]

average game after re release

[drowsy dock]

Grind gems>buy pack>sell in PWE(we prolly get some byte through mission and gifts)>buy fishing/mining gear>sell gemstone/fishes to others for byte.

[native plank]

fr these 12 year olds dont understand that nothing really changed

[fathom prawn]

This will be the meta

Buy seed booster (splice) then recycle = ez bytes

Farm soil and grass>create green tank top>recycle= ez bytes

Omaga social first will probably disable recycler on release😂

Better trading currency:HUGE DIAMOND or HUGE RUBY

[fresh sandal]

@harsh briar can someone please make a new list of FAQs? Everyone keeps asking the same questions and some are basically lost or have their opinions getting factual lol, thanks!

[unborn crow]

The whole point is that the kids with their moms credit card deside the market.

[lusty temple]

This would only be meta if it actually ends up worth doing, which is fairly unlikely as the yields from this are very low. Most likely best way to earn bc will be what has always been best, trading with other players.

[unreal ridge]

its over

[fresh hearth]

yes

[worthy badger]

is this factual info?

[upper dune]

31/3

[woeful shuttle]

game servers were briefly live today. players got to see the prices

[viscid vector]

you could do that before too by just adding a step of buying gems

[fathom prawn]

This will be meta trust me since there's no way on getting bytes and bytes to gems ratio will be crazy on release and few tank top will give you the daily profit of a maxed out fisher or casual miner. well i bet they will nerf or remove recycler completely.

At once bsp is finally worth doing

Farm green tank top guys

[native plank]

the same thing would happen even if they didnt change byte coins

[cosmic shadow]

So we dont have currency like 2 days (Btw GT better this point

[drowsy dock]

Grind gems>buy items pack>sell item in PWE(we prolly get some byte through mission and gifts giving us enough for tax)>buy fishing/mining gear>sell gemstone/fishes to others for bytes.

[topaz crypt]

Just remove bitecoins at this point.

[quiet merlin]

Why would they do that

[glad socket]

is the main way of getting bytecoins now recycling items with the recycler or something else im really confused about all of this

[urban idol]

seems either that or quest rewards

[coarse vector]

For the defenders of this change: most people know that you CAN get coins from quests, the issue rises from the fact that these quests hardly gave you any to begin with (75 BC or less on average), and with how the admin is describing it, it seems that these small amounts will be reduced. Devaluing and reducing the incentive for grinding.

[covert scaffold]

yo bro quick question, where can we download the game when it comes out, is it will be on the web page or like on a steam for example?

[woeful shuttle]

we dont know, it would make sense for them to nerf the recycler.

[fathom prawn]

I think I'm dominating the economy with f2p activities trust I'm just gonna spend money to lock worlds

Anyone wanna make a guild with me? You making millions dm me if you want

[sacred bay]

we all lwk using pixies as currency 😭

[valid mauve]

Keep your wallet closed yall

[static aspen]

Is wl bought using bytes or gems?

[jovial bobcat]

let's use pixie wings as our main currency! They are exactly 2 wls! so whenever we fish up a lot of gems and want some type of currency to spend on, we buy pixie wings...sell them for goodies.
WLs has become a currency out of nowhere, cause it was a thing meant for locking and protecting your world. WLs were never expected to be some type of currency that we all know until' today. So, my point is Pixie Wings would be as same as WLs, just twice the price. That's it.

[austere fossil]

Nexus 2 this is not . That's such a dumb statement

[late token]

So after this update, the hero items go skyrocket since you need alot of bytecoin to earn and finish the mech quest or get the hero items

(New currency...... blue parc lol)

[harsh dove]

So the currency is byte coin right?

[flint walrus]

feel free to Reply my message if you’d like to say anything or don’t agree to what im sayin

Bytecoins locked behind paywall is actually good for long term. because then the inflation wouldn’t have been so bad. I know that p2w will get ahead of us in the early releases. but mid game? i don’t think so.

Like the case for GT. there is now too much WLS(currency) in that game that it has inflated so bad. making it impossible for the new player to catch up with the economy.

basically, P2W is going to get ahead of the early stages of the game, but whether Bytecoin was locked behind IAP or not, that will always be the case. but by doing this, the game’s economy will last longer and become more stable.

[boreal breach]

Wooden sword as new currency who with me?

[worthy badger]

I hope that secret base will be more easier to acces than the old prices, it would be a disaster if people needed to pay even 50 bc for a SB run.

[nova valley]

Respect

[cosmic shadow]

Large Tuna would be great

[drowsy dock]

Its actually easy, back then when i play pw i never buy byte coins using gems, all u need is gems to buy items and sell those stuff for byte in pwe

[spiral charm]

Lets use magic stuff seeds as the new currency

[covert scaffold]

bro just delete byte coins at this point 💀

[woeful shuttle]

on point

[fathom prawn]

Vote now PIXIE as the main Currency

✅ Or ❌

[grave python]

[narrow maple]

yes they are, but also gems

[winter valley]

u cant its removed

[coarse vector]

Again: this change is completely fine as long as you can still buy BC for gems (because gems are accessible to anyone including f2p) in the shop.

[quiet merlin]

People that are against bytes, are freeloaders that should be happy that P2W players are funding the game that they are playing

[viral geode]

Bytes will be for money

[sacred bay]

we're lwk so doomed if they keep the prices the same
but I lwk don't have any faith in them to make any adjustment like that especially after getting aired like 50 times oml 💀

[late token]

We can use blue particle since the priced was set using "byte" or butterflies

Hell yeah

[covert scaffold]

in my opinion, back then the game economy broke as soon the bc became the main currency.

[woeful shuttle]

bruh why are we so desperate to find a new currency 😭
just fill the trade price gap with something that has a fitting price.

@sacred bay : "we're lwk so doomed if they keep the prices the same" why is that, can you give an explanation. Makes no sense.

[compact seal]

Anyone know how many wls 5 dollars will get u

[fallen wagon]

I think one or 2

[crisp aurora]

Why would u buy world locks bro they are not tradable

[fathom prawn]

You kinda right but.

VOTE FOR MAIN CURRENCY
bytes
🐟 tuna(large)
💎 diamond(large)

[grave python]

They limit the creation of byte coins so that inflation remains controlled, you as a f2p can perhaps farm or fish or participate in events or others and sell seeds/items/fish for byte coins, byte coin supply can still be controlled by developers by perhaps releasing items with byte coin prices so that byte coin supply remains stable, it may be difficult at the beginning of the game but this is the best for the long term

[ionic snow]

I mean yall do have to understand social first is money hungry. Literally greedy, what they are doing right now was their original plan for the game social first or nexus station whatever it was called. But they realized that nobody played their bad game, (it was really bad). So they decided to bring pixel worlds back, haha how fun we got pixel worlds, oh no wait it is pay to win. Obviously everything has always been pay to win yet they say the game micro was illegal since it is gambling, bro we used money in the game let us at least have fun. And yeah world locks are also untradeable, which forces people to buy byte coins even though many don't have access to it. As said pay to win, Siskea you ain't slick. Greedy.

[viscid vector]

🫃 your mother(huge)

[tardy cave]

so you guys did not learn with nexus station so you'll have to do the same mistake twice?

[urban idol]

the issue is nobody is making you buy byte coins instead of just playing the game and getting them yourself; Read? wuzzat?

[high marsh]

ay I can’t read the suggestion, can someone reply to the suggestion pls.

[small sail]

I mean, couldnt we just trade rare items for other rare items, I understand that we need a currency but its still a solution

[dark flame]

pw is very f2p friendly. You can ofc buy bytes to get better gear for nether or fishing but you still have to grind levels and stuff. The whole point of pw is grinding for new items/building, theres nothing to win

[sacred bay]

the downside is how they've designed a whole system to make bytes way more ideal for trading

[coarse vector]

This change doesnt even need to exist in the first place just add more ways to regulate coins (add a bunch of cool and interesting items in the byte coin shop, make pickaxes cost bc instead of gems, etc.) And remove the paywall entirely

[viral geode]

buy gems buy wls lock worlds ez first day rare names

[covert scaffold]

agree, last time pw is dead because of the use of bytes as the main currency of the game, now they just make it worst..

[plush basin]

Let's just agree for everyone to not use the global market and everyone to only trade items for items

[modern thunder]

wait can yo ubuy blue particles for gems too or just bytes?
should probably sell em for gems too if not (btw secret base this thursday i think)

[manic plover]

Hopefully gems

[urban idol]

The actual reason pixel worlds was shutdown was due to hackers & dupe bugs completely breaking the economy (from my understanding, atleast)

[north blade]

I know the prices of the vips.. i got the pic

[late token]

That’s what I’m talking about—if the hero event were byte based, then it would be the most expensive event in the early stage.

[quiet merlin]

Bro never played clearly, found the Growtopian

[pale crow]

Add gamerpay to pw

[slate summit]

They also just gave up on it

[elfin tangle]

What do you get from buying VIP I forgot

[ripe kestrel]

I think you should jump

[viral geode]

2k gems daily, reduced pwe taxes, more pwe slots

[lusty temple]

Game died prior because it was completely unmaintained and suffered from rampant duplication exploits, it didn't have anything to do with the currency choice

[covert scaffold]

yeah true but only its the end of the game, but the number one reason before that is the use of bytes, when the price of items are broken people leaving game and when people left the game, company became poor and the security of the system is poor and there are hackers, and fyi i played the game since beta

[grave python]

In Pixelworld, the bytecoin supply used to be too abundant, rendering it worthless because everyone was creating or printing new bytecoins. Just like a country printing new currency, to eliminate or control inflation, money or currency must circulate properly, not create or print currency. Now, the developers are trying to fix this with this update.

[uneven meteor]

with time every player will understand.

[stoic terrace]

breaking the economy after the game stopped receiving updates and having any management for months
socialfirst just wants money with as little effort as possible and if that goes wrong just shut down the game and try again ✌️

[urban idol]

wasnt it kukouri studios or whatever managing the game before it shutdown?

[woeful shuttle]

social first split from kukouri

[supple geyser]

I think this might be a good change

[smoky girder]

We will have to see Tommorow

[pale crow]

More like consumed. Since kukouri is dead(i think so)

[covert scaffold]

wow i found a newbie here, u know nothing. did u even play pixel worlds? or just before its closed?, do u even understand how the market works if we use bytes as currency? people can easily control the price of an item if they have enough emount of an item ( and they already did this thats why the game broken). maybe think before u talk kid. and if they still use bytes as the main currency and this is worst than last time, i can see how the game will be in the future. have fun byte lickers

[quiet merlin]

My ign was Days, I played like 3 days after release, I have screenshots. And now you've just proved you're a Growtopian in disguise, bro joined 3 days ago

[lusty temple]

That's just straight up not what happened though lol. What you're expecting is for every single paying player to take part in a grand conspiracy against f2p players. Not exactly likely

[stoic terrace]

didnt most people leave and rejoin the server after hearing about the reboot 😭

[coarse vector]

When the game shuts down and reopens again will you change your name to months

[errant jackal]

Honestly screw byte trades. Lets just trade items, return back to the times when the silk road was still being used by lots of traders. Want spices? Trade your own spices for them ✌️

[worn stag]

CAN WE MAKE IT SO YOU CAN ONLY GET GEMS BY SPENDING REAL MONEY???? IT MAKES IT MORE FAIR FOR US PEOPLE WHO SPEND MONEY ON THIS GAME!!

[dreamy garnet]

chill guys, i will locking world name "buybyte" and abandone it, so we will not using bytes coins as main currency

btw ill lock name "Feet" bcs i love it

[hollow talon]

Fym "us"?

[radiant pelican]

is it worth spending atleast 3k usd

[crisp dove]

Access to the full game is free. People who complain about wanting everything for free are missing the point. Nothing is exclusive to pay to win. You have two options: work in the game or work in real life. Choosing to do nothing and then crying for items and wealth doesn’t work in either world.
It’s a free trade market - you can always trade for any items or receive donations, Byte Coins included. You can trade anything for Byte Coins.

[gentle copper]

❌

[covert scaffold]

non sense, grow up and talk later kid. i talk about facts what already happened last time and here you are barking non sense no proof and no facts.

[lean ingot]

#1488228922431770887 It must be rebalanced? They must removed bytes completly right?

[grave python]

bro chill😂

[quiet merlin]

Chat what's wrong with bro 😭. But on a real note, bytes never killed this game, it was duping items and lack of management. I was there the whole time bro. I remember it like it was yesterday

[earnest perch]

I think they’ve probably never bought a AAA game, so they’re just complaining about IAPs they can’t afford.

[late token]

Gotta gamble the first 50k bytes on hero event since it is a byte based even so items like shoutgun are kinda expensive(also the mech quest)

[stoic terrace]

its so funny how the only argument that people who stand with this change have is "you must be broke" or "you have to work in real life"
this is just wrong and proves that the game's monetization is predatory
a game can definitely last with IAPs that arent so intrusive and you know that

[errant jackal]

Thats a great way to put it lol
Either way its work for the items and other stuff you want. The only difference is if it's at a real job or ingame

[urban idol]

im sure im missing a point somewhere, but how is it predatory? youre not obliged to spend money to get byte coins.. its still the same idea of having to put in effort to get the stuff you want

[inland willow]

guys, is earning byte coins gonna be the same as before in pw?

[radiant pelican]

Why ppl be freaking out abt the byte coins? theres a way where u could get approx 1-4k bytes per hour with the budget of atleast 500 bc

[jovial bobcat]

Yeah, the only change is you can't get it with gems

[winged wraith]

I feel like this concept will be argued over for the eternity of the game dividing players into those who like it and those wo will always complain

[covert scaffold]

classic reaction when ur argument is dumb and u cant stand for it anymore, u can't read huh? read again what did i said earlier maybe your small ahh brain can understand. thank you that would be very helpful

[lusty temple]

Gonna be different, you'll primarily have to trade between players for them now if f2p

[lethal niche]

w for devvvv letss gooo

[crisp dove]

Yeah, they genuinely need to be grateful that there are players who pay so the game can have the funds to exist. They seem to think developers can pay for servers forever without any in-app purchases.
Free to play players can get any item they want if they are skilled enough. The best value items are often free - for example, Halloween items that everyone can get for free, yet they always end up costing a fortune.
This community is just a bunch of crybabies, but to be honest, in the last hour this chat seems to have gotten its common sense back.

[lime ruin]

[quiet merlin]

Right, no need to be rude.

1. Bytes never killed the game
2. Duping/Exploits and poor management was the death of this game.
3. It will definitely not be worse than last time if they fixed the exploits (you said it would be worse than last time)
4. You like to call me dumb a lot, I have a degree and am pursuing a postgrad at a top 50 uni in the world.
5. We should end this silly conversation

[stoic terrace]

its predatory because the game's economy is controlled by the people spending, allowing them to practically manipulate the market.
socialfirst is making sure this happens by making rare world names practically controlled by spenders. its the same concept of hoarding items if you played old pw, its fair to no one and ultimately not a good change to the economy for both sides.

and @crisp dove the argument for paying for servers is completely false, a 2D pixel game is VERY cheap to run compared to any other video game out there. plus, you're making it seem like its impossible to make money without predatory monetization. i dont think you know much about video games

[idle jungle]

Game become p2w thats all

[jovial bobcat]

BURNING HOT TAKE: P2W players are actually a plus to this game, yes they will buy a lot of packs and get all rare worlds, but that's not the point of pixel worlds anyways, they will control the economy, they will be the only ones that will make bytecoins have purpose. Besides, there's going to be over 50 p2w players buying horrendous amount of packs, which means bytecoins will exist and have use!

[urban idol]

with that logic, wouldnt the economy have been predatory earlier? since theres practically no difference in terms of spending?

[winged wraith]

The only thing I'd like to know is if there will still be tax on the PW exchange, because it might lead to deflation due to more bytecoins going out of the economy than enter

[earnest perch]

Not everyone is saying “you’re broke”—you’re just picking the weakest takes and acting like thats everyone.

Calling it “predatory” doesnt magically make it true. It’s a f2p game, monetization is normal. The real issue is if its p2w or not, not just “it exists”.

And the devs already said bytes can be earned by grinding, not just locked behind IAPs, so it’s not purely a premium currency.

And yeah, some games can survive with lighter IAPs, but not all. Different games, different economy.

So this isnt some black and white “predatory vs fair”, you’re oversimplifying it.

[spring vapor]

How is this pay to win stuff bad. It's exactlt like real life. Some people are rich and they control the economy but you can make money and have fun without spending money just by working

[barren hornet]

Y'all complain about everything before the game is even out. Atleast wait for it to release and then start complaining when something is not right.

[amber hawk]

Bro has a lifetime flex of typing the first message in pw-chat

[hallow imp]

the main point is that we all (or at least most of us) want to get rich in the early stages of the game. P2W players (I'm one myself, but I'm considering both sides because i want this game be long-term) will buy all the rare names, worlds, clans, and limited early game items. Eventually it will become impossible for anyone else to catch up to them.

[crisp dove]

I do not think it is predatory. It has always been like this—the only difference is that before, you had to buy gems with real money, then use those gems to buy bytes or WLs, and then convert them into bytes. Now, you can buy bytes directly with real money.
The fact that bytes are not purchasable with gems is great for the game’s economy. There will be enough bytes in circulation in a couple of months, and everyone will forget that bytes used to be bought with gems.
Everyone just wants things to be fast, fast, fast - give the game some time. No one is forcing you to spend money, and pay-to-win players only have a mild advantage. Wait until Halloween, when everyone will get legendary items that will cost more than what pay-to-win players have spent in months.

[lusty temple]

Currency being mostly tied to real money makes it vastly more stable though. It won't impact players significantly as the best way to earn bytecoins is always trading with other players, so it just ensures there is minimal inflation at no real loss to f2p players.

[vale urchin]

what game is this

[old jacinth]

Pixel Worlds 2: It's A Blockbuster!

[worn stag]

Mr.gpt over here

[wraith lily]

Nah i think it’s portal worlds bro

[compact osprey]

Good old bug I had, no one knows how or when

[stoic terrace]

you're right i am oversimplifying it because alot of people here dont understand basics economics

but also 90% of arguments ive seen are false, for example, saying that bytes can still be obtained F2P. quests and any other methods gave very tiny amounts of bytecoins that it might aswell have no effect on the economy, the main method of obtaining them was through gems, and thats gone now.
and yes not all games can survive with lighter IAPs, but pixel worlds is a game that certainly can, it has demand and its cheap to run, there are also other ways to make money (such as selling more premium untradeable items), so lighter isnt necessarily linked to predatory, more monetization is ok, intrusive monetization isnt.

[manic sapphire]

yo, is it more worth to spend 5 bucks on gems or bc for headstart?

[viral geode]

5k bc or 40k gems ur choice

[idle jungle]

Pw going to die in 1.5 years they are just greedy pigs

[urban idol]

the counterargument with the "p2w players will take everything" is the fact that EVERYONE that starts the game will start with a newbie world lock anyway, so if newbies were to want the rare worlds as much as the p2ws, the newbies would get the worlds by the time the microtransactions are finished anyway

and to hollow, realistically the quests by themselves are really small, but can very quickly add up, alot

[winged wraith]

small quests indeed add up fast, 1000 players completing an easy quest giving like 100 bytecoins is already 100k bytecoins added to the economy, which would cost hundred dollars+

[spring vapor]

Would you rather there be no way of buying bc because then there would be almost none in the market. And you could buy with money through gems previosly too and that's on reason the economy broke, being able to buy with gems not with money so I don't see a problem

[crisp dove]

Yeah i use it to change my grammar since my English is not that good Mr. AI police, since i always get pointed out for my bad English.
I never use it to generate text for me.

The other thing is that you guys are absolutely crazy if you think that p2w players can outbuy regular players, because proportionaly regular free players will generate much more bytes than p2w players could ever buy.

[grave python]

They made bytecoin unavailable to everyone using gems to stabilize inflation. They made bytecoin more valuable because not everyone can print bytecoin.

[earnest perch]

Yeah youre right, we still need to see how this “grinding” for bytes actually works.

The game isnt even out yet, i just hope they really thought this decision through.

[stoic terrace]

again, the issue is NOT that money is a way of buying bytecoins
its that money is the ONLY way of getting bytecoins
it has alot more negatives than positives and alot of people dont see that for some reason

@earnest perch yeah i agree

[versed quarry]

No before you could grind for them but now they are limiting the amount you can grind for and being more behind a paywall

[maiden dove]

its not the only way though.
they said u can still get a few by playing the game.

[spring vapor]

they never said money is the only way they said its the primary way. It was like this before

[crisp dove]

That is the thing, it is not the only way, people are just so used to judge. We can get bytes from quests, from wishing well, from recycler + imagine how many bytes are generated per day for free together if there are 30k players... in couple months there will be enought supply. Enjoy the game, dont rush.

[trim cove]

p2w

[pliant hawk]

Bc from recycler may be replaced with gems

[worn stag]

Tbh if the recycling event is still there regularly I have no problem with byte coins not being for gems

[native plank]

sped idiot

[stoic terrace]

you can get a couple hundred bc at most from quests (after grinding for days/weeks)
meanwhile buying gets you hundreds of thousands
i know it adds up when alot of players grind the quests, but the purchasing power of 10 whales is equivalent to the entire f2p community grinding quests

@crisp dove we dont know anything about recycler or if it even exists in the game currently, its most likely either going to be changed/removed or heavily modified, another thing you didnt factor is that quests are limited, there are only a few quests you can do, its not like you can get hundreds of bc everyday, daily quests used to give very tiny amounts iirc

if they add more ways to obtain bc it wouldnt be that horrible but it doesnt seem like it right now unfortunately, we have to wait a few months and see what happens

[urban idol]

id think if they didnt say anything about it in the announcements, it will likely be the same as it was before the shutdown

[hallow imp]

I meant that people can just buy rare names from other players since they have dollars worth of btc . Plus, they haven't announced how much BTC free-to-play players will actually get, so we're totally in the dark on the numbers. And let's be real about the first month's limited items—nobody besides the P2W players will even be able to get them. Also, that VIP special hair pack is absolute @#!?. @urban idol

[spring vapor]

And what if there's fewer bytecoins in circulation this just means bc will be more valuable and things will cost more bytecoins which I would argue is a good thing. We don't have to go right away back to how it was when there was a ton of bc in circulation and inflation high. We don't even know yet what's gonna change maybe there's a completely new way to get bc for free you guys are being too pessimistic and judgy when the game hasn't ben even released

[crisp dove]

Quests are not limited, you can do clan quests all the time which gives byte rewards. If whales want to spend thousands on this game then they deserve to have advantage, cmon regular spender will spend like 50USD max which gives them such mild advantage longterm.
Whales could buy gems for thousands in previous pw aswell, same logic.

[lusty temple]

Then don't grind quests, play the market. There will be countless ways to obtain BC by simply identifying what items are valued by the community

[gentle geyser]

What’s the best first thing to do? Nether fishing or mining

[grave python]

bro just farm and sell the seed to p2w player to get more bc🥲

[stoic terrace]

there are multiple people willing to spend hundreds on release already whales are spending much more than you think 😭

and @lusty temple i dont have any issues with trading, i made all my profit from trading in old pw. its just that this puts the economy at great risk with a likely negative outcome.

honestly the more concerning thing for me is the lack of transparency, its nothing like the pw management we all knew, they literally just added a cd and started ai generating responses in response to the backlash instead of addressing it properly

[urban idol]

oh, i didnt think of it that way,
but if the p2ws buy the worlds from the newbies, the newbies would have loads of bc aswell from selling it to them, so i'd think its still fine in that case

[hallow imp]

Fair point but what about um vip exclusive packs ? isnt it a bit too much ?

[crisp dove]

I mean, after the announcement, the chat went full ape mode. It felt like the average IQ in the chat was around 30 - just a bunch of crybabies who say that literally everything that involves money is pay to win.

[viral geode]

spending 30 bucks gets you 85 wls so 85 worlds also vip exclusives too

[cunning kelp]

That was already in the game

[spring vapor]

Stop complaining and wait for the game to release for crying out loud. You don't even know how's the situation gonna evolve and yo already complainign

[gentle geyser]

Fr

[crisp pebble]

It’s been like that since the start whales have always been able to buy gems to get WLs and trade

[fading plover]

what's the point of grinding if you can simply donate in game,but, if you donate to skip fun part what's the point of playing game?
Like with hacks, game becomes boring if you'll give yourself infinite amount of money

[brazen raft]

Where prices?

[winged wraith]

tbf i enjoy playing gta with unlimited money

[stoic terrace]

no not really
whales had some control but no where near this extent, almost all of the bytecoins circulating were obtained F2P, only a small portion was bought, so there wasnt a specific group controlling the economy which is the issue at hand

@crisp dove yea i think the issue is just that alot of people that play this game dont really understand the changes or what they cause 😭

[urban idol]

if 1000 new players got newbie world locks, by the time the p2ws spend the money and get their gems 1000 (of the like what 19k?) worlds would already be taken

and the "vip exclusives" can you tell me more about that?

[hallow imp]

It doesnt matter its a relaunch they dont have to make same mistakes thats whats relaunch for ..

[dim dragon]

So what are the prices for vip?

[grim gyro]

🐉

[crisp pebble]

whales need the items grinders farm, and grinders need the bytecoins whales buy. It’s a cycle

whales dominate every MMO. it’s normal

[icy warren]

Bro whales cant play game they literally under water

[viral geode]

like p2w can buy alot of them and hoard for example vip hair packs

[polar ledge]

Wls gonna be bought with bc or gems yall?

[stoic terrace]

there are probably gonna be 2-3k players
they can lock 2-3k worlds
only some of them will be sniping on release so realistically around 1k people sniping
there are many thousands of english words that would be considered rare, giving p2w players atleast 2-3 hours to lock them, only the super rare names will get instantly sniped by f2ps

btw @crisp dove check #1488240679669989396
the average whale can get their hands on 500k-2m bc on release so this is not very promising 💔

[obtuse sleet]

yeah its gonna be so bad. People who can afford to waste 500$ will ruin the game

[urban idol]

2-3 hours? idk i feel like the time limit is much shorter

regardless, i think we'd have to see this unfold to see how significant the change really is to the games economy

also, im just now realising how significant 500k-2m on release is, wtf 😭

[crisp dove]

Yeah these prices are out of hand, no one will farm or fish, what even is the point, in nether we can at least get items from wheel. Ret ed.

[lean ingot]

#1488228922431770887 This have to be balanced aswell.

[stoic terrace]

yeah every announcement is worse than the last i entirely lost hope i dont even have the urge to play this game anymore

[sturdy garnet]

Nahh I don’t like this, just a way to remove the trading power of F2P players
Bro under me is complaining about being called a whale while acting like one 😭

[polar ledge]

F2p larps calling us p2w chads "whales" bc we got money n they dont😭

[wanton jasper]

Brosky thats how they call big spenders in the gaming industry

[jovial estuary]

Is this the worst discord e gangster message of all time ?

[urban idol]

"p2w" and "whale" are practically interchangable in the gaming context bro 😭

[stoic terrace]

im crying this is NOT tough 😭😭😭

[old jacinth]

ahh hell nah what are those prices

[polar ledge]

man the cheapest gempack is barely a dollar.. its sad how ppl like u are complaining, also im not a gangster what

[hallow imp]

Bro i will buy 500k-1m btc as well but you have to look both sides if u want the game lasts long

[glad socket]

i think theyre talking about the amount youre getting for a dollar

[royal halo]

Whyyy was the forum locked

[viral geode]

hahah they locked it #p2w

[oblique talon]

@harsh briar Why are VIP prices 1.5 to 2 times higher than before (looking at the prices listed on the wiki)?
Also why are #1488240679669989396 locked?

[supple locust]

So your telling me you want to make economy "more stable" by selling main game currency and calling it "fair start"? I really cant belive you guys are serious on doing this, thats just straight spliting on f2p faces. Thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard. I hope pixel worlds will fail this time, beucase doing what youre doing now is unbeliveable. You will destroy this game, the thing that was killing this game and made it unfair was black market, buying bytecoins for real money.
Shame on you. @harsh briar

[crisp dove]

Lol they removed chat cuz we put tomatoes to siskea, cuz she ignore community.
@versed berry We understand that but the gem prices are absolutely tarted. 200k gems for pennies.

[versed berry]

because there are a lot of narrow minded people who don't understand anything about economy and if bytecoins were unlimited the game would face with inflation in few months

[winged wraith]

prices are more expensive because cost of living aint the same as 2015 yall

[stoic terrace]

wow some people are REALLY clueless

people are complaining about the fact u can get a million BC for $500 but like 25 from grinding quests 😭

[faint parcel]

I didnt know that they can take this huge L before it even launches😭😭 good start!

[jovial bobcat]

devs:

[delicate gale]

@harsh briar correct if im wrong but the only way to get bytecoins is by buying them or selling an item in trade or the pwe for them right?

[gray berry]

🙂

[mental rapids]

Are wls droppable

[glass trellis]

There are other ways aswell

[polar ledge]

What are you on bro💔 js dont do quests if thats the case, and use money, if you dont have any to spend yet still cry then thats just sad

[gilded pawn]

How is this diferent from what it was. Then you bought gems ---> items ---> bytes. Now you just bytes ---> items

[tropic oasis]

@harsh briar id like to very kindly donate this and submit it to be the new logo of the social first company 😊

[old jacinth]

gems are useless now

[solemn hull]

Fuel is better than this

[main garnet]

you cant generate byte with gems normally, so no one can pump the economy using gems