Where to draw the line for 1a

[hybrid mountain]

we can't go against discord TOS or select & choose what to enforce

vegan isn't wrong here

discord servers have been shut down for far less

[lapis schooner]

thats fair

and we are discord partner server too so we get more spotlight

[dry snow]

I understand your cautious nature but rest assured I am infalliable and you can remove that last word /lh

[hybrid mountain]

well... not really cautious. I'm just more of a free agent using Arch these days with certain peeps gone.

although I should be more cautious about my ex-bf rn

this thread is weird escapism for me atm

[dry snow]

This took a turn. I know we haven't always been on the same page with things but I hope you're not in danger!

[hybrid mountain]

DMs, I guess?

[slim bluff]

Well as I said, discord TOS prohibits it and unfortunately that's the end of the line, the additional discussion was essentially just fluff

[dry snow]

I honestly would be shocked if alc allowed that in general without a very clear SFW context that wasn't being abused (and if it was, would have to clamp down on it hard).
Anna had to ban calling people "good boy" and "good girl" from how it was being used several years ago.
I had to ban 2 people that signed someone else up (after they leaked their own email address by accident in a screenshot) to an adult website.

[slim bluff]

I had to ban 2 people that signed someone else up (after they leaked their own email address by accident in a screenshot) to an adult website.
this is kinda funny ngl

[dry snow]

All of the people in question were minors, and I don't find it funny because at the end of the day, the more the SFW lines are blurred, the more you enable predators to operate in your space

[slim bluff]

were minors
oh 🫠

[dry snow]

I think as an outsider you probably find it more funny, but moderators can end up in a position where something really bad can happen, and they could've stopped it, but didn't have the knowledge, experience both, to stop it, or at least prevent the space they moderate being used in that way.

[warm grail]

hope ur good twin

[warm grail]

the more the SFW lines are blurred, the more you enable predators to operate in your space
💯

[flat forge]

also

discord is based in cali right

[dry snow]

It's spelled Kali, it's a pen testing distro, and discord is more optomised for windows.

||Discord Inc.
444 De Haro Street
Suite 200
San Francisco, CA 94107
United States of America||

[flat forge]

😭

discord is not optimised for anything

[slim bluff]

it's a web browser :tf:

https://discord.com/blog/why-discord-is-sticking-with-react-native

they still standing by this

[flat forge]

i mean

hang on

"female nipples" is pretty vague

[slim bluff]

not really

female:
of, relating to, or being the sex that typically has the capacity to bear young or produce eggs

nipple:
the protuberance of a mammary gland upon which in the female the lactiferous ducts open and from which milk is drawn

[flat forge]

okay so.... either nipples that cant produce milk or people that cant produce eggs

i dont get it

[dry snow]

I could translate what I think they'd mean by this but it enters into possibly transphobia, they're probably just thinking of cis women

[flat forge]

i feel like i should be able to report discord for discrimination

because thats what this is

[slim bluff]

it specifically says typically

[slim bluff]

i feel like i should be able to report discord for discrimination
adhering to biology isn't discrimination

they're probably just thinking of cis women
no they specify females which is different

[flat forge]

???

they only disallow "female nipples"

that's...discrimination

they are literally no different to "male nipples"

[slim bluff]

ah i thought you meant it in regards to trans folk

but no, as much as you'd want to say that it is their platform and they are within their rights to moderate the content they allow on it

[flat forge]

when i get on e i will be able to produce milk

but like... arent there laws about treating people differently because of sex/gender?

[slim bluff]

they are literally no different to "male nipples"
the breast structure of males and females is different, so is the underlying skeletal structure which does affect the breast

when i get on e i will be able to produce milk
and this is not true, if you start lactating I suggest you go visit a doctor as that indicates an issue in regards to your body

[flat forge]

no but like

it is physically possible

not saying im going to lol

[slim bluff]

a lot of things are physically possible but that doesn't mean they should be done, lactation in trans women is something which REALLY shouldn't be attempted and also it will not happen naturally

[flat forge]

why not??

also uhhh

even if "female nipples" are different

how the fuck are they sexual

like....

im sorry wtf

[slim bluff]

1. biological males can never produce the same milk as biological females so breastfeeding should not be considered for the safety of the child
2. that would be galactorrhea which is caused by your body not being a state it should be in which can endanger your health

[dry snow]

In America? I doubt currently.

[slim bluff]

well that's just dumb societal stuff really, you can't rationally explain that

[flat forge]

it's cali, im sure there are

[flat forge]

ah yes, so many people get turned on specifically from seeing nipples

sorry, "female nipples"

[slim bluff]

there are, such as Title IX, but these laws do not apply to platforms like Discord which have the legal freedom to moderate content as they wish with the exception of not being able to allow content the government bans

[dry snow]

this is hard to talk about on this server, but many women find that area stimulating, in a sexually gratifying manner, don't really want to be any more detailed than that.

[flat forge]

thats not specific to "females"

[dry snow]

I think it is a lot more common to women than men, and it is certainly celebrated in the media a hell of a lot more for women than for men.

[slim bluff]

not trying to lead this to a more detailed discussion, just kinda flawed given the zones on the body that result in the same thing, by that logic a back would be sexual

[flat forge]

we're talking about females here, thats the wording discord uses

[dry snow]

there's definitely a sense of arbitrarity to it, but discord are going along with a very broadly common social aspect in how it's seen.

we're talking about females here, thats the wording discord uses
I think they've phrased things slightly clumsily, I am giving best faith interpretation of what I think they're digging at

[slim bluff]

conservatives inventing gender will never not suck 🙃

[slim bluff]

there's definitely a sense of arbitrarity to it, but discord are going along with a very broadly common social aspect in how it's seen.
I mean no matter what, even if it's irrational they can do what they want, their platform after all, they could ban the color pink if they wanted to

[warm grail]

eehhh

[flat forge]

but why is everyone so okay with this

[slim bluff]

when you sign up for a platform you accept their terms and conditions, if you don't like the rules don't use it

[flat forge]

i just mean like

why is everyone so okay with those rules

[warm grail]

i'm pretty sure discord based this type of rule off of societal norms.

[slim bluff]

well as you've seen people do care it's just that their decision is final so all discussion is merely for the sake of discussion

[dry snow]

I actually wish there was more acceptance of nakedity (in a non-sexual way). I've seen breast feeding women be oggled at by teenagers - that's just horrifying, just wanting to be able to feed their kid, have to do it outside, and then get objectified (though in this case I get the impression she was done with the world and stopped caring). But yeah, so many platforms are worse, look at facebook, X, even Bluesky has a massive amount of transphobia on it

[warm grail]

I'm pretty sure there are multiple platforms that don't consider female nipples as sexual content, but discord isnt one of them

[lapis schooner]

yeah discord sucks in many ways

[flat forge]

also for the amount of trans people on discord, the wording is REALLY weird

[slim bluff]

oggled at by teenagers
yeah that's what a society that divides sexes, allows younglings to have easy access to pornographic material at a very young age and is restrictive and conservative regarding nudity will do to ya

[dry snow]

oh my God I'm complaining about discord and it isn't about their product team, that's really refreshing

[flat forge]

whats that

also uhhh

%slowmode 5s

oop

%slow 5s

[turbid smelt]

Y'all can now send one message every 5 seconds.

[flat forge]

im eepy

[lapis schooner]

eep time

[flat forge]

who tf set it so high

[lapis schooner]

rachel

[slim bluff]

wording is REALLY weird
not to sound offensive but when you don't look at it from an activist point of view you wouldn't bat an eye

[dry snow]

product as in, product owners and product managers

[flat forge]

"activist"????

[dry snow]

uh per hm7 wanting it
@flat forge
Just so you're aware

[slim bluff]

well majority of people that don't actively care about trans issues will not see anything wrong with it

activism: practice that emphasizes direct vigorous action especially in support of or opposition to one side of a controversial issue

[flat forge]

ehhh they werent talking here at all

[warm grail]

Which is an issue I wanted to bring up but idk if it was allowed. The minds of the young have been so affected by sexual content. honestly, my belief is that the original sticker that was sent was removed is because someone may have subconciously connected that type of furry art style to pornographic content

[dry snow]

not getting involved, it's outside of my remit and I'm apathetic, just putting it out there. I actually think at this point the original thread is probably done, but I guess we don't have a controversial channel to be redirected to 😂

[slim bluff]

honestly in a way this is valid because that type of furry content almost exclusively uses cartoonish artystyles that'd appeal to kids

[dry snow]

did you see my intial response on this topic?

[flat forge]

but... the artwork isnt sexual???

tf

[slim bluff]

i am talking about nsfw furry artwork having the same style and tone

[warm grail]

💯 this is one of the many causes made by pornography being easily accessible by minors

[slim bluff]

i personally wouldn't consider it nsfw just wanted to voice my personal gripe with that part of the furry fandom

[dry snow]

^ my 2 pence/cents/whatever is trading better

[warm grail]

i did not sorry

[flat forge]

people should be able to make porn in whatever artstyle they want

[dry snow]

well I've replied to it so feel free, I don't know the origin story so can't say if I agree with it being removed or not

[slim bluff]

bring back classical art style for nsfw content
https://www.artchive.com/artwork/the-dream-of-the-fisherman-s-wife-katsushika-hokusai-1814/
NSFW warning for old (1814) japanese sexual artwork

[warm grail]

dotle do u have the sticker

[dry snow]

I think the argument being made is that a certain style is used perhaps close to exclusively in that style?

[flat forge]

i readded it based on the consensus we had here

[slim bluff]

THE FURRYFICATION

[flat forge]

sorry im kind of confused by what that means

[dry snow]

is the thing around the neck meant to be a bdsm collar or a bell or something else?

[flat forge]

just a collar

[slim bluff]

probably not the intent

[dry snow]

if it's just a normal collar then I don't understand the issue with it personally

[slim bluff]

if you're nsfw brained (an addict) you'd likely see it as nsfw

[flat forge]

yea

[slim bluff]

that's what I assume happened

the issue is that with how people are nowadays a lot of normal sfw stuff can be taken to nsfw areas

[flat forge]

what i always say is, if you see something as sexual, all that means is that specific thing turns you on, we arent going to ban everything anyone has ever had a fetish about

[slim bluff]

a good example of that is professor lando on youtube/twitch

[slim bluff]

I do think we should ban ankles however, surely you must agree that they are too much /j

[flat forge]

a good example of this is feet

like im sorry but...

they arent sexual

[lapis schooner]

me when im a housewife in the 1500s and have to flash my angle to a guard to bribe em

[flat forge]

if you think they are thats on you

[slim bluff]

ankles are a better one imo but yeah

[dry snow]

well, not necessarily, there are things that are overt, such as objects designed as such

and that includes fetish clothing

[warm grail]

[lapis schooner]

i love free itme

wait wrong channel

[warm grail]

same 💯

[dry snow]

if the conversation is done I recommend locking the thread just due to its size, but your / other mods call 🙂

[lapis schooner]

catermelon

[drowsy nymph]

I don't think anybody wants to read the 1100+ messages in this channel so a slowmode from the start would have been good for this and all the other meta threads from here on out

[slim bluff]

@grok please summarize

[rose urchin]

Me?

Is this implying that addicts are dirty minded or dirty minded people are addicts

Or just me

[drowsy nymph]

Adult content addicts

[dry snow]

what about ssh do you see as nsfw?? 😂

to be clear as possible they were not in any way referencing you no matter how I read it, you just happen to have a word they used in your username 😛

it'd be like me thinking people are talking about me every time someone in this server tags someone and says "thanks"

[rose urchin]

I see

[dry snow]

oh yeah, you remotely log in to your system...that's the stuff...

[rose urchin]

Yes

Well not always remotely

Can be done over a USB cable too

:P

[dry snow]

😂

well if anyone would know

[native narwhal]

Um no, I'd see a naked woman as somewhat sexual (somewhat due to artistic nudity being a thing), does not mean I'm attracted to women lol

That's just a really stupid argument

[dry snow]

any and every image?

[native narwhal]

Every image of a naked woman? Maybe not as I said I think there are cases where nudity is artistic instead of erotic in nature

[native narwhal]

That's just a personal attack but as an argument lol

[native narwhal]

Depends on presentation, like foot fetish art specifically is obviously sexual

[dense tide]

I was relating it to a social, rather than legal, standard.

A social standard specifically applying to industrial society, of which Discord is a product.

And then yes, there is ToS

[native narwhal]

What matters more than laws is what credit card processors think

[primal needle]

it's very hard to give specific characteristics of what makes a normal vs sexualized depiction of a foot but like. you can tell.

[primal needle]

this argument is just dumb sorry

[native narwhal]

Duck test

Sorry for the ping reply

[lapis schooner]

follow discord tos and

if we base the sexual or not on perceived intend?

yes there will be ambiguity problem but at least it'll be more fair this way

and if we want fairness then maybe some sort of system to deal with the ambiguity

[dry snow]

I don't think it's a bad thing to be stricer than the TOS for reasons I've mentioned in this thread

[coral harbor]

If "naked" furries were such an issue, The Furry Nexus, a server with many times more members than this one, wouldn't be able to exist

And again, I'll bring up the argument of: what about Renamon, lucario, any pokemon-based character, Daffy Duck, Buggs Bunny, or any other anthropomorphic characters?

[dry snow]

In such cases I think intent and perception are both important factors

if it is widely being percieved, or there is a nsfw intent, including talking in a masked, coded way, then it becomes problematic for a community that has 13 year olds in it

[coral harbor]

I think this whole argument of this sticker being NSFW is false assumptions and anti-furryism

[abstract parrot]

I think its in bad faith to assume its anti-furryism

[dry snow]

regarding the sticker itself again, it doesn't look nsfw, but if there is a wider context, like it's being taken from a comic that is nsfw, I may see an argument

[coral harbor]

Agreed

[dry snow]

which mod removed it, and what was their reasoning, would be the pertinent questions, but on a 1K thread, this may have already been probed, because who is going to read 1K messages?

[coral harbor]

dotle is definitely making the argument worse in my opinion

While I see their standpoint, they've been hung up on nipples pretty much the entire time, which is already against TOS and thus has no value to this thread

[flat forge]

yea i stopped talking about that

sorry this uhh wasnt the right place for that lol

[coral harbor]

I just think the sticker being moderated to begin with (which is what started this) was done with some anti-furry sentiment or bad faith

[peak seal]

As someone that typically runs servers that don't allow NSFW content - here's where I usually draw the line in the sand:
NSFW - Sexual

• Content depicting actual pornography
• Content depicting one or more individuals in an explicit act
• Content that openly displays any form of genitalia
• Content depicting fetishistic behaviours/imagery
• Do not the animals (bestiality)

NSFW - Non-sexual

• Content depicting gore, extreme violence, or death
• Racist, homophobic, religious, or otherwise harmful depictions of certain people/groups
• Depictions of self-harm or worse

Ultimately though, a lot of this stuff comes down to common sensical "keep the chat clean" types of rulings. Obviously nobody wants to step on self-expressionism, and furries often catch this a lot due to the typically "unclothed" nature of artistic anthropomorphic depictions.
Reality is though, they have fur. So long as there's no outright genitalia being emphasised in the artistic work, it should abide by the rules and not be targeted as a violation.
The list I've put above is not exhaustive - but it is a very good baseline that gets across a generally ToS-safe tone of force moderators and admins can use to keep a community clean and safe.

[dense tide]

So, two mods requested admin input. I signed off on it being removed primarily because it was being spammed, not necessarily because I think it is all that nsfw in and of itself.

[slim bluff]

Content depicting gore, extreme violence, or death
When I was barely pubescent I got yeeted off of a server for posting that not realizing it was NSFW (I just assumed nsfw meant adult content) and therefore broke the rules lol

[dry snow]

Ahh that makes more sense, @coral harbor

Thanks for the explanation unpickable

[coral harbor]

why not use that as the reason then?

I feel like if the moderation reason was "spam" it wouldn't've sparked as much, if any discourse, as "unclothed personified anthropomorphic character"

[lapis schooner]

that was quoting SSH

when asked for why that sticker was removed

whom also mentioned the spam problem

[coral harbor]

Still, "unclothed personified anthropomorphic character" was unnecessary in this instance, and could've just been attributed to spam

[peak seal]

NSFW is a broad term often used to describe things sexual in nature, however that is only one category of things that is covered. It's why I usually break it up into its constituent parts, rather than leaving it as a vague broad definition

[lapis schooner]

for context before i made this thread we had some mildly heated talking in an HU only channel sparked from this exact message

[slim bluff]

wondering if I could share my rice that includes a wallpaper that's adapted from the final panel of chapter 125 of Tokyo Ghoul :re,

the panel in question features a nude male resting his head on the thighs of an almost nude female who is cradling his head with her hands with her breasts visible but no nipples present, neither are genitals as those are covered using the specific pose the characters are taking

technically it doesn't fit the criteria for banned content

[coral harbor]

I see

[peak seal]

Like I said in my post before - it's not an exhaustive list of prohibited things. If the content itself is sexual in nature, then it's best to use your best judgement which should always be:

If I have to ask if it's appropriate, I probably should not send it

You will never be blamed for erring on the side of caution

[slim bluff]

well normally I wouldn't think twice, just asking as a result of this thread

[peak seal]

I'm not anything close to staff here, so, take what I say with a grain of salt - but this is how I operate in every community I enter

Given that this server is partnered with Discord, it's best to think ToS first before your actions. If you've got promiscuous-adjacent material you'd like to share, that's more or less where DMs come into play

Like, there are children in this server, iirc

[dry snow]

@peak seal This was my original stance before we found out it's for spam reasons.

@flat forge (sorry if wrong mod, I think you reinstated it?) now that it has been reinstated, if there's a spam problem again, will it be removed, or will the spammers be removed if they don't stop?

or a third option?

[peak seal]

It's not a bad stance. I kinda just gave out how I treat things.
As for the spam stuff though - I can't really comment on the situation at fault here as I wasn't there to witness it. Spam is fairly subjective from a moderation standpoint, though there's definitely still some nuance to consider as well.
If the user is repeatedly sending the same gif/sticker/message, is it actively being used in reaction the conversation/bit/topic at hand? Or is the user simply sending the content on a whim?
I've seen, and even participated in, conversations where someone has said the same thing numerous times in a row. Heck, when I first joined this server, I used the word 'ditto' like three times in a row, all to make a bit.

There's context here that a moderator should look for when it comes to removing spam or enforcing rules, but is not always realistic to expect - especially if the chat is quite busy, it can be difficult to react in a timely manner while absorbing enough context in a quick skim-through of a conversation they only just joined in on.

[flat forge]

if someone repeatedly sends anything, then we talk to then

[dry snow]

historically in this server spam was seen as something that was nonesense and/or disruptive in that way, so, I also wasn't around for it, but my suspicion would be a small group of users sending it repeatedly which either makes the entire chat screen the sticker, or continues to bump the chat, in both cases making meaningful conversation harder to happen and being off putting to new users who want to have mature conversations

[dry snow]

that's what I mean by if they don't stop sorry, the missing bit, don't stop after being spoken to

[flat forge]

i personally would treat that as a problem with a user, not the sticker

[peak seal]

Absolutely! Like I said, there's a lot of nuance to consider... Though, this thread has certainly delved in and hyper-analysed what was/happened. Each instance is its own story to unravel - which is part of the responsibilities of moderators to sift through and unravel.

[dense tide]

They brought it to my table with that, nsfw, as the primary issue. I simply signed off on it with no further comment.

And I figured "hey, why not?", as it so happened that this also got rid of the spam issue.

And modding that much spam seemed like a lot of moderation overhead.

[dry snow]

I can see how things got so confusing here between a moderator action and their reasoning, and the perception of the reasoning.

[dense tide]

Agreed.

[peak seal]

Are there any plans in place to help ease this confusion in future?

[dry snow]

Is this scenario really expected to be a regular occurence? 😂

[peak seal]

Shrug

[dense tide]

Not really. This thread is at least public.

[peak seal]

It's my work habits kicking in

[dry snow]

once a week we will add a sticker, remove a sticker, and give ambiguous reasoning as to why a sticker was removed???

[dusty apex]

One of my main issues as a mod here was that I thought the rules were enforced overly prudishly

Like telling people to change their about me because it had the word cock and therefore is NSFW

It is the fucking 13 year olds who do nothing but say cock, if you have an issue with it, it should not be an NSFW issue but a maturity issue imo

[slim bluff]

promiscuous-adjacent material
well it's just physical closeness akin to a hug

[peak seal]

It's more that I see a pretty decent opportunity for staff to convene and discuss communication. I'm an observer - and some skills with occupational health and safety lends me to suggesting, or at least asking, to see if there's something that can be done to ease future instances

[dry snow]

@dusty apex I can't speak for the past year but if that's in reference to when I was a mod well, this is my stance, and we had good reason to be.

[dry snow]

I think in a community this size there's always going to be a lack of clarity for some people that will need deeper manual explanation, and also, sometimes people won't agree with mods logic, doesn't mean the mod's logic is wrong (though it may be), it's just, communication is rarely if ever 100% efficent

[dusty apex]

It was in reference to my time as a mod

[dusty apex]

^ something like this happened iirc

[dry snow]

I mean if we start openly talking about genitals it can quickly lead to bad situations, we had to ban role play and calling people "good girl" / "good boy" at one stage because it was being used flirtaiously, I had to mod 2 members talking about kissing, there was a large age difference, when I told the older person how old the younger person is they were humiliated, they hadn't considered that apparently

[slim bluff]

when I told the older person how old the younger person is they were humiliated, they hadn't considered that apparently
europeans smh smh

[peak seal]

For sure! Though in this instance where it seems some public confusion has taken place, it seems like a good time to talk internally about what happened, identify why it happened, and reflect on things that could possibly have been done differently to avoid an outcome where a moderation action had to be reversed.
That's just me though, and I'm not staff in any capacity whatsoever, so.... I'mma leave the topic here - my points have been made and I don't wanna hijack the chat talking about possible staff courses of action.

All I know is this:
Microslop Windung is garbage and Linux is based. Yolo

[slim bluff]

Linux bad, bsd good

[dry snow]

There are only so many hours in the day, this is like a 30K sized server lol

[native narwhal]

This sticker always just spams lol

Even aside from it being NSFW (in my now widely disagreed interpretation)

[dense tide]

It's annoying. I think I may start to regulate mutually spamming stickers specifically.

[crisp shore]

Holy this thread is still active?

[dense tide]

Because that was my issue with the thing specifically.

[crisp shore]

I personally don’t think it’s NSFW but nevertheless people shouldn’t spam it, or any sticker for that matter.

[native narwhal]

I will say, me posting that screenshot was in bad faith since I obviously want the sticker removed for different reasons, but the spamming was just annoying on top of that to me

[native narwhal]

The real test is I should make it my wallpaper tmrw at work and see if someone talks to me about it

If not I'll completely drop the argument

[dry snow]

What is the argument for it being nsfw?

[native narwhal]

Unclothed anthro character

[dry snow]

Is that nsfw?

[native narwhal]

Not anthro in terms of stance of design, that's just in behavior

[dry snow]

I guess I don't see it because there's no eronious zones, either it's a boy, or it's covered up by fur

[native narwhal]

Eronious?

[dry snow]

I'm very sleepy, just woke up, lets go check spellings

erroneous - in this case very common ones

[native narwhal]

Sorry still not familiar with the term in this context

[dry snow]

maybe I'm getting the word wrong, but, an area of the body that is very commonly depicted as being overtly intimate

this is a huge server

[native narwhal]

Erogenous by chance? I interpreted the lower part of the image as breast but I might have been wrong

[dry snow]

ahh that is where we differ, it looks like a normal dog chest to me, not the upright position, butspecifically the chest, if normally sticks out a little on dogs

[native narwhal]

Hm, maybe actually. I didn't see it like that intiially but I see it a bit now

[dry snow]

I mean, do you have anything to contribute to the topic?

No...no-one thinks that's 1a, that is a literal picture of a dog, you've come into this thread without reading either the very start of it or the immediately preceding conversation towards the end...

[native narwhal]

I think there's a difference between animal artwork and anthro animal artwork and I think anthro should have to obey more so human rules

[dry snow]

^

[native narwhal]

I don't fully agree but I think vegancookies made some damn good points about the character design so I'm still personally reconsidering. I'm the last holdout I think

[dry snow]

The original complaint about the sticker was it's NSFW, the person who made that complaint has softened their stance on it.
The original reason for the sticker being removed was primarily about it being used for spam, some mods are in disagreement about the best way to deal with spam (remove the thing being spammed vs talk to and then potentially remove the spammers).
I'm going to dip from this thread, and argue there is merit in locking it as it frequently is used in tangents, and is far too long to reasonably expect someone to actually read, instead if a similar issue occurs and needs discussing, best to make a new thread.
The purpose of a thread like this is to explore an issue, not have a 100% conversion rate in terms of us all collectively agreeing on every single bit of nuance.

[native narwhal]

I think I agree that it's not 1a now just because yeah it can also be seen as a normal dog chest. I think I only viewed it differently because the character was upright

[rose urchin]

Because the thread isn't really about the sticker

The sticker issue was resolved before the thread was even made

People just chose to fixate

But uhh

Have we finally stopped talking about breasts?

[stray goblet]

Yea I'm in the camp of this rule being overly prudish

ASCII dick? Man who cares

[native narwhal]

Now that's DEFINITELY 1a

[stray goblet]

As for the sticker I say not nsfw

And I also question why a link to a bash manual in the Epstein files got flagged nsfw

[native narwhal]

Its so funny because that bash manual also has a redaction 😭

[drowsy nymph]

It didn't, we don't have automod rules that match that

[stray goblet]

I mean NSFW under 1a

[primal needle]

it was because it's linking to the epstein files at all, not about the actual content of the link posted

[clear kernel]

LOLL

[flat forge]

ooo uh

what do you guys think about this image? the artist has said that it isnt sexual

[lapis schooner]

yeah its not sexual how is it sexual

are we gonna rule any romance related stuff as sexaul

[rose urchin]

Tbh i can see why people would say it is but to me it just looks like two logos put together

[lapis schooner]

lets not start listing porn sites

[flat forge]

oh yea sorry

[drowsy nymph]

Ok so this has devolved into discussing adult sites with children

Let's lock as everything that needs to be said should have been said in the 1323 messages

Further meta threads/tickets can be created, but they should have a 15-minute slowmode applied to hopefully keep them readable and higher quality

[rose urchin]

Agreed

I'm gonna remove the last few messages due to the site referencing, etc