Need someone to guide me through

[ebon tide]

Ive spent a couple days trying to figure out how to proprelly install fuckass arch. I tried asking chatgpt, watching tons of videos but i always come across an issue that is either not known or im jus autistic

maybe i need to verify my arch iso but i have no idea how to do it

[dire gyro]

What's your issue?

Where do you get stuck at?

[ebon tide]

lemme go through my copilot screenshots so I can send u sum stuff

[ebon tide]

well basically i get errors the second I boot into my usb into arch linux

[dire gyro]

What are the errors?

[ebon tide]

it takes a long time to go into the root and sometimes the root does smthin random like

without me writing or typing anything

[ebon tide]

give me a moment

[dire gyro]

That's something you can just ignore

And continue typing

It should be your concern only when errors like that happen on the proper arch installation

[ebon tide]

is it okay if we hop into a call and you guide through what I should do

and then you could see the errors by yourself

[dire gyro]

Unfortunately I can't

Maybe someone else can

[ebon tide]

can you watch videos?

so I can js record

[dire gyro]

Um yeah

[ebon tide]

one moment

file is too big ima have to screenshot

but at the end it goes into this shit

[dire gyro]

Wow that's very bad

At the end of what exactly?

[ebon tide]

so first

enter into that

then

things loaded

lots of kernels then

these

and to finish it all

[dire gyro]

Yup

[dire gyro]

So it just crashes as soon as you boot the installer?

[ebon tide]

yeah which is weird because it doesnt happen all the time

maybe its corrupted but like

lemme try smthin

[dire gyro]

Yeah, you can actually try verifying the iso

[ebon tide]

how do I do that

[dire gyro]

What's your host OS?

[ebon tide]

i mainly use fedora on my hdd, when I was trying to install arch i unplugged my hdd and only had my ssd in

what am I saying

My only os is fedora

[dire gyro]

sha256sum -c archlinux.iso

And compare the generated sha256sum with the one on the arch website

961002fab836819b599e770aa25ff02bff1697d1d051140062066a5ff47d6712

[ebon tide]

uhh

[dire gyro]

Duh, that file needs to be in that directory

[ebon tide]

mb uhh lemme try to do it

[dire gyro]

Where's your iso?

Yeah

[ebon tide]

in my home

[dire gyro]

Under a different name, I assume

[ebon tide]

on my life idk why theres a cp folder

i did NOT create it

[dire gyro]

perhaps at some point you mistyped a command which resulted in mkdir cp

[ebon tide]

ohh

[dire gyro]

or some stupid app created it

[ebon tide]

alr so how do i access that directory on my terminal

[dire gyro]

you already are in that directory, the file just has a different name

[ebon tide]

oh

[dire gyro]

or you can simply just drag the file into the terminal window

[ebon tide]

why am I trying dumb shit

idk how to do it

okay i did it

so what should i do from now

[dire gyro]

Shit wait

Wrong command

[ebon tide]

bru

oml im not doing this on purpose

[dire gyro]

Do it without -c

[ebon tide]

alr lets check this

its the same

should i perhaps rewrite the iso to the usb?

Alright well if anybody wants to hop in to help me that would be greatly appreciated

[umbral coral]

What lead up to this

[ebon tide]

bascially the screenshot from
before

yk

it goes from me clicking the arch linux medium

then its downloading shit

[umbral coral]

Oh

[ebon tide]

yk

[umbral coral]

You got the ISO from where

[ebon tide]

a mirror

germany one

[umbral coral]

Are you geman?

[ebon tide]

no im swiss

[umbral coral]

Get a swiss one

[ebon tide]

not available in the archlinux website

oh waitp

it is

but how would that solve my problem tho

[umbral coral]

You made a partition for arch?

[ebon tide]

wdym

like what i did was write the iso onto the usb

boot the usb

press archlinux medium

boom problem

[umbral coral]

Oh I see

What happens with that screen

If you leave it open for a while

[ebon tide]

well it would time me out

[umbral coral]

Meaning?

[umbral coral]

I'm talking about this one btw

[ebon tide]

yes exactly

if i leave it open

it would say

login: timed out after 60 seconds

[umbral coral]

Your main system is Fedora?

[ebon tide]

Yes

i used to have linux mint on my ssd and fedora on my hdd but i removed my mint

cuz i wanted to have arch

[umbral coral]

What tool did you use with the usb?

[ebon tide]

to write the iso to usb u mean?

[umbral coral]

Yeah

Actually it doesn't matter

[ebon tide]

a terminal command

[umbral coral]

https://etcher.balena.io/

Go do this

And report back

[ebon tide]

is it available on linux

[umbral coral]

Yeah

It's a GUI so this should take max a couple minutes

[ebon tide]

alright ill see tomorrow cuz its late

actually lemme do it rn

[umbral coral]

Goodie

In Balena there'll be two settings that can be turned off optionally

Turn them both off

2) Select the USB
3) Flash```

[ebon tide]

ima be real w you idk what the fuck to do with that extracted file

[umbral coral]

Oh

[umbral coral]

Open the folder

And run the executable

[ebon tide]

yup

open again?

[umbral coral]

Yes

I think the icon will be a blue diamond?

[umbral coral]

Since you're on gnome

[ebon tide]

which one is executable?

[umbral coral]

Yeah the first icon

Top left corner

balena-etcher

[ebon tide]

alr i disabled the pptions u told me

[umbral coral]

Goodie

Now do the three

[umbral coral]

^

[umbral coral]

Yeah

Then restart ofc and boot into it

[ebon tide]

alrighty

yeah…

btw my system has a gtx 1650 super, a intel i5 11th gen 16 gigs of ram and a displayport connected from my gpu to my display (if thats relevant?)

[umbral coral]

Computer name

[dire gyro]

I have no idea

But since you're already on Linux

You can just install Arch from Fedora

[ebon tide]

hp

bro idk wait

[ebon tide]

here

[ebon tide]

how

[dire gyro]

I can't guide you right now because I'm in bed, but I'm sure there's a way to get arch-install-scripts on Fedora, then you just mount your new partition and chroot into it after doing pacstrap

There's an article on the wiki, let me find it

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Install_Arch_Linux_from_existing_Linux

[ebon tide]

so tomorrow could you guide me through?

[dire gyro]

I don't even know if tomorrow I can return home safely

Somebody will help you

[ebon tide]

oh shoot

[dire gyro]

You could also try troubleshooting the kernel panic but it will be a pain in the ass and probably not worth it

I'm guessing it's a faulty kernel module or something

[ebon tide]

wtf is yall skulling my post for

[umbral coral]

Huh?

Oh right

[umbral coral]

Yeah

[ebon tide]

Have I done something wrong during my installation?

maybe my hardware is fucking me or my bios settings

[umbral coral]

You haven't really installed anything

[umbral coral]

Yeah

[ebon tide]

right

ill record my bios settings once I can so if anybody willing to check them out they could tell me if its my bios settings that are horrible

[umbral coral]

Also

Try to get me some clear pics of what happens when you boot into Arch

After the "Welcome to Arch" message pops up

[ebon tide]

theres tons of errors jus overflowing Ima have to record in 4k 120fps

[ebon tide]

yeah yeah

[umbral coral]

I just need this

Maybe 4-5 seconds after this

[ebon tide]

all I know is that it fails to mount smthin and then it does a domino into a kernel panic

[umbral coral]

Btw what's your PC name and model?

[umbral coral]

Oh

[ebon tide]

i think its on my fedora fastfer h

[ebon tide]

right here

[umbral coral]

Kk

@ebon tide You don't have Windows right?

[ebon tide]

i used to but no

my moms computer has it tho

[umbral coral]

Try etcher on that

[ebon tide]

i used to flash my usbs with rufus on it

ill try etcher on it

[umbral coral]

Etcher Rufus whatever you want

Ventoy

[ebon tide]

gpt right?

i got a uefi system

[umbral coral]

Yeah that should be fine

[dire gyro]

Certain people just like to skull-react posts if certain keywords appear, regardless of the context

[ebon tide]

I see

I downloaded the iso from a france mirror since its close to switzerland and bc it had 100% completion on succesfully syncing mirros at https://archlinux.org/mirrors/status/

dont know if it matters to check that

[umbral coral]

It's ok

[ebon tide]

oh shoot there was a swiss one that good too

eh its wtv ig

[ebon tide]

@umbral coral enjoy, its a lil different tho

[umbral coral]

Ugh

It's so blurry

[ebon tide]

i mean i could try to record in 4k 120fps

but because of discord it makes jt blirry

blurry

[umbral coral]

Oh

Upload it to Youtube

Or maybe here https://streamable.com/

[ebon tide]

wait what

i got a different thingy popping up

and caps lock turns on

[ebon tide]

ill upload my bios settings and arch boot

[ebon tide]

it jus froze ig

[umbral coral]

It says "Starting Update Boot loader..."

It freezes eventually after that?

[ebon tide]

you see that character

it should flash

like the _

its jus stuck like that

[umbral coral]

Ah

[ebon tide]

cant type anything

[umbral coral]

This is good

Way better than before

[ebon tide]

should I reboot again

and record everything

[umbral coral]

Sure why not

In case it's different this time

[ebon tide]

igu one moment

i got the same shit bru

alr lemme upload it

[umbral coral]

In that case

Don't send it

Try to boot into it from a different PC tho

[ebon tide]

https://streamable.com/8j1cnk

even sum screentearing is visible

[ebon tide]

i got an old one thats an hp sumthin

[umbral coral]

Oh wtf

[umbral coral]

It's doing this shit again?

[ebon tide]

yeah…

[umbral coral]

Holy moly

[umbral coral]

Test that out

Let's see if it's your PC

[ebon tide]

alr lets see what this bad boi has to say

hardware and maybe bios issues was the thingy

booted normally

[umbral coral]

Great

[ebon tide]

so my iso isnt the problem

let me try a different port

[umbral coral]

You're not using a old computer or anything are you?

[ebon tide]

on this one it had the specs showed on the fastfetch

so 1650 super, i5 11th gen, 16 gigs of ram

changing port isnt doing anything

i believe i may have fucked up my bios settings but when

idk

[umbral coral]

How?

[ebon tide]

even I have no idea

I dont remember tweaking stuff

[umbral coral]

Did you ever change anything

[ebon tide]

apart from where i had to download mint on my ssd

took me 3 whole days with live support

[umbral coral]

What is that ssd used for now

[ebon tide]

i had to add noacpi next tothe quietspalsh

[ebon tide]

for nothingp

cuz i wiped it

[umbral coral]

Oh

So just use that for arch

[ebon tide]

yes thats exactly what I was trying from the start….

[umbral coral]

No

Flash the SSD

[ebon tide]

i wanna install arch on my ssd

😥

[umbral coral]

Yes

Go flash it now

Etcher

[ebon tide]

isnt that going to break the iso?

[umbral coral]

No

[ebon tide]

flash the ssd

hmm

alright igu

[umbral coral]

And then just boot into it ofc

Also I suspect the USB is the issue

But that doesn't matter anymore

[ebon tide]

well i do remember an issue i had

about a sata

basically my usb was faulty

but temporarly

i used the usb type a once

and had sata error

but when i used type c i had no errors

but it doesnt matter since i booted normally to arch with the usb type a on my older device

[umbral coral]

Probably BIOS setting issue

RAID vs SATA

[ebon tide]

mines raid vs ahci

i have it set to ahci

[umbral coral]

Oh wait

Before you flash the SSD

[ebon tide]

yes go on

[umbral coral]

It's empty right?

[ebon tide]

well it had sum stuff on it from older tries

but i can format it rn

[umbral coral]

No need

You only want to use it for Arch right?

[ebon tide]

yes

only arch

[umbral coral]

Don't format anything

Just flash and go

[ebon tide]

alright one moment

[umbral coral]

Pick the right one ;)

[ebon tide]

yes yes

its the ssd

[umbral coral]

Goodie

[ebon tide]

i hope

damn

shit was fast

[umbral coral]

Go boot

🤫

[ebon tide]

igu

[umbral coral]

I think we're done here

[ebon tide]

i mean

eh

its telling me its starting a job about

random shit

but its better than last time ig

[umbral coral]

Dang it

[ebon tide]

should i hop on my bios settings to check if everythings good?

[umbral coral]

Ig let that do its thing

Or has something happened

[ebon tide]

alr cya in a couple minutes

[ebon tide]

it failed to mount udev smthin like that

but im in

[umbral coral]

Oh

[umbral coral]

You got this?

Oh

I see

[ebon tide]

close enough

[umbral coral]

Yeah whatever

[ebon tide]

i wanna setup my wifi

i always had trouble with it

[umbral coral]

Connect to WiFi?

[ebon tide]

on both pcs

yeah

even tho i alr have ethernet

[umbral coral]

Hmm let's see

Oh

Well

Currently you're in the live environment

[ebon tide]

cuz it can ping

[ebon tide]

yes

[umbral coral]

Do iwctl

[umbral coral]

Don't even bother with that

Just connect directly with

[ebon tide]

how do i do that

[umbral coral]

station wlan0 connect networkname

[umbral coral]

If wlan0 is your interface name

[ebon tide]

uhh

oh yeah the name

[umbral coral]

Do a station list if wlan0 isn't the right one

[ebon tide]

bro

[umbral coral]

?

[ebon tide]

no stations

😭

[umbral coral]

Huh

[ebon tide]

is this normal

[umbral coral]

No

If you have WiFi

[ebon tide]

i do tho

i could connect to wifi with my fedora

[umbral coral]

Oh wait

Try this

exit that

Do this systemctl start iwd

Then iwctl

Then station list

[ebon tide]

does arch hate my device?

[umbral coral]

Maybe

Maybe just install with ethernet

And see if WiFi works later on

[ebon tide]

alright ill do it with ethernet

explain what I should do

[umbral coral]

You just want to use Arch right

[ebon tide]

yes

[umbral coral]

Type this archinstall

[ebon tide]

hopefully archinstall doesnt fuck up my ntp like it does everything

even archinstall doesnt want me 🫩

[umbral coral]

Don't forget to pick the timezone

[umbral coral]

And networkmanager

[ebon tide]

yeah thats exactly what i would do

[umbral coral]

You have ethernet?

[ebon tide]

yes

[ebon tide]

here you can see i can ping google

[umbral coral]

Mhm

[umbral coral]

Is it still outputting this

[ebon tide]

well kinda yeah

[umbral coral]

Ctrl c or ctrl z and run it again

[umbral coral]

Can you do a pacman -Syu

[ebon tide]

alright one moment

[umbral coral]

sudo pacman -Syu archinstall

[ebon tide]

i believe my keyring is not writable

why

[umbral coral]

No idea

Haha

[ebon tide]

brooooo

so my keyring not being writable might be the reason its jus acting like that

[umbral coral]

Did you try the suggestion pacman-key --init

[ebon tide]

why am i acting suprised thats exactly the same error i had when i first tried

[ebon tide]

i think it resulted with the signature not being trusted or thin

smthin

[umbral coral]

Just now?

[ebon tide]

oh wait

nvm

lets try again

[umbral coral]

sudo pacman-key --populate archlinux

[umbral coral]

Do this if archinstall doesn't go

[ebon tide]

what the fuck

i got a corrupted file

[umbral coral]

Hmm

[ebon tide]

nah i exactly predicted it

signature is unknown trust

[umbral coral]

When doing this: sudo pacman-key --populate archlinux?

[umbral coral]

sudo pacman-key --refresh-keys

And then do archinstall

[ebon tide]

i see errors

ion like that

[umbral coral]

Like?

[ebon tide]

i feel like its stuck in a loop

[umbral coral]

Let it be for a little unless you're sure

[ebon tide]

alr ill let it be

oh wait

hopefully its succesful

so archinstall?

[umbral coral]

Yeah

[ebon tide]

same shit

[umbral coral]

Maybe sudo archinstall?

[umbral coral]

Hmm

Technically you could install arch on the other PC

And then put the SSD back

[ebon tide]

well i believe my other pc doesnt have an ssd

but a hdd

[umbral coral]

Yeah you can use this one

[ebon tide]

its a desktop pc shits gon to be awful to unscrew

ill give it a try

[umbral coral]

Wait

Do you really want Arch or you can make do with something Arch based

[ebon tide]

tbf anything arch based that supports hyprland without any issues

[umbral coral]

I think try CachyOS

https://cachyos.org/

Flash it and see what happens

[ebon tide]

alrighty one moment again

do i flash it to my ssd

or

usb drive

[umbral coral]

Yeah

[ebon tide]

alr

[umbral coral]

It'll be faster this way

Maybe sure you pick the right drive before flashing

You gave 1 TB to Fedora?

[ebon tide]

yes

cuz idk

[umbral coral]

Cool

Oh btw

[ebon tide]

yes

[umbral coral]

Actually nvm

[ebon tide]

no

tell

rn

[umbral coral]

I was going to say flash the working drive

Since it works

But ofc you can't

[ebon tide]

uhhh yeah

[umbral coral]

It might also be good to just partition the working drive

I doubt you've used any of the 1TB

But let's see if Cachy works

[ebon tide]

which one do i choose

[umbral coral]

Direct

[ebon tide]

aleight

[ebon tide]

on my fedora hdd?

yeah i barely even used 25gb

back to cachy

lets bootinto it

[umbral coral]

Go

[ebon tide]

uhhhh

[umbral coral]

The top one

[ebon tide]

same shit all over again

[umbral coral]

Mhm

[umbral coral]

This is probably going to go the same way again

[ebon tide]

it jus fails to start wait until kernel time synchronized and wait for udev to complete device initilization

ima try with nomodeset after to see if it can change anything

[umbral coral]

Mhm

[ebon tide]

bruu

so at the end it panics

and nomodeset does nothingp

[umbral coral]

Mhm

Yeah just partition the Fedora drive

[ebon tide]

alright one moment

[umbral coral]

What're you using Arch for?

[ebon tide]

hyprland cuz it looks cool

and i wanna be like those people saying i use arch btw

[umbral coral]

Maybe just give it like 100 GB then

[ebon tide]

alright

[umbral coral]

Actually 150

Should be more than enough

[boreal estuary]

... newhypr

[languid bone]

#17677 📣 https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/667889924233625613/1394538342237868133/image.png?ex=6885044a&is=6883b2ca&hm=1eb68d0f41429ba9b80d2942df09bbc29a1bc2a7d4ced4a3fcb29fb3ace5d5c7&

[boreal estuary]

Tldr of this thread

No offense

[ebon tide]

@boreal estuary got me timed out for 1 min cuz of you

nah but if im being fr im tryna explore all kinds of distros and ive heard arch is hard

hyprland is js cuz i wanna impress my friends cuz they think it looks fire

[boreal estuary]

I did nothing

[ebon tide]

get out of this thread

you are being mean

[boreal estuary]

I mean, I didn't time out anyone

[ebon tide]

I may have said the word n cuz of you

anyways back to this shit

[boreal estuary]

Just stating facts that you may struggle with arch and hyprland if you are new to linux

[ebon tide]

@umbral coral how do i partition 150 gigs

[boreal estuary]

Even if you succeed installing

[ebon tide]

off my ssd

[ebon tide]

yes i am aware

[boreal estuary]

Also, another advice: don't use chatgpt

[ebon tide]

i lied

i used copilot

[boreal estuary]

Still same thing

[ebon tide]

ikr

[boreal estuary]

Just don't

[ebon tide]

but i knew it would end up going nowhere

[boreal estuary]

And kernel panic can be anything, and cachyOS won't solve that

Still under arch umbrella

[ebon tide]

exactly why i said “i need smthin arch based”

obv its going to have similar issues

[boreal estuary]

You don't really need it tbh

[ebon tide]

i do

[boreal estuary]

Users just need something that works

[ebon tide]

i need to explore

[boreal estuary]

So, using journals, check why it's kernel panicking

And don't fell for the hyprland meme

[ebon tide]

how do I do that

[boreal estuary]

... journalctl

[languid bone]

#10200 📣 ```js

To actively follow log (like tail -f):

journalctl -f

To display all errors since last boot:

journalctl -b -p err

To filter by time period:

journalctl --since=2012-10-15 --until="2011-10-16 23:59:59"

To show list of systemd units logged in journal:

journalctl -F _SYSTEMD_UNIT

To filter by specific unit:

journalctl -u dbus

To filter by executable name:

journalctl /usr/bin/dbus-daemon

To filter by PID:

journalctl _PID=123

To filter by Command, e.g., sshd:

journalctl _COMM=sshd

To filter by Command and time period:

journalctl _COMM=crond --since '10:00' --until '11:00'

To list all available boots:

journalctl --list-boots

To filter by specific User ID e.g., user id 1000:

journalctl _UID=1000

To filter by specific SYSLOG_INDENTIFIER:

journalctl -t systemd-resolved
tldr:journalctl

journalctl

Query the systemd journal.

More information: https://manned.org/journalctl.

Show all messages with priority level 3 (errors) from this [b]oot:

journalctl -b --priority=3

Show all messages from last [b]oot:

journalctl -b -1

Delete journal logs which are older than 2 days:

journalctl --vacuum-time=2d

[f]ollow new messages (like tail -f for traditional syslog):

journalctl -f

Show all messages by a specific [u]nit:

journalctl -u unit

Filter messages within a time range (either timestamp or placeholders like "yesterday"):

journalctl --since now|today|yesterday|tomorrow --until YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

Show all messages by a specific process:

journalctl _PID=pid

Show all messages by a specific executable:

journalctl path/to/executable
$```

[ebon tide]

wdym I didnt fall for it

[boreal estuary]

... mandmesg

[languid bone]

#17423 📣 ```js
cheat.sheets:dmesg

dmesg

Print or control the kernel ring buffer

Print the ring buffer contents, then clear it.

dmesg -c

Display the local time and the delta in human-readable format. Conversion to

the local time could be inaccurate.

dmesg -e

Print human-readable timestamps.

dmesg -T

Human-readable output (color + reltime).

dmesg -H
tldr:dmesg

dmesg

Write the kernel messages to standard output.

More information: https://manned.org/dmesg.

Show kernel messages:

dmesg

Show kernel error messages:

dmesg --level err

Show kernel messages and keep reading new ones, similar to tail -f (available in kernels 3.5.0 and newer):

dmesg -w

Show how much physical memory is available on this system:

dmesg | grep -i memory

Show kernel messages 1 page at a time:

dmesg | less

Show kernel messages with a timestamp (available in kernels 3.5.0 and newer):

dmesg -T

Show kernel messages in human-readable form (available in kernels 3.5.0 and newer):

dmesg -H

Colorize output (available in kernels 3.5.0 and newer):

dmesg -L
$```

[boreal estuary]

Those should help

[ebon tide]

@umbral coral wya

[boreal estuary]

Now, you could use Debian and get what you want, or use sway

Tbh anything can be riced, no need for hyprland

But you do yours

[ebon tide]

okay but do you have any ideas why my signature is unknown trust everytime

[boreal estuary]

But kernel panic means something broke on your system

[boreal estuary]

Sounds like secure boot

[ebon tide]

but my secure boot is always disabled

[boreal estuary]

Then idk

.aw secure boot

[languid bone]

Secure Boot

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Secure_Boot

[boreal estuary]

That's all what I can say, GL

[ebon tide]

came and flood the thread

[umbral coral]

😴

[ebon tide]

anyways how do I partition my hdd

to give arch 150 gigs

[umbral coral]

I think you can use Disks

[ebon tide]

what do i do from now

[umbral coral]

Oh

There's nothing to do

[ebon tide]

so how do i make sure i dont break my fedora while installing arch on this drive

[umbral coral]

You can't

[ebon tide]

so its gameover?

[umbral coral]

No

Take out the Fedora drive

Also if you don't want Fedora

[ebon tide]

i should turn off the pc first right

[ebon tide]

i want it

[umbral coral]

Oh you do

You can turn that one into Arch completely

Or Fedora and Arch

[ebon tide]

I either want fedora with hyprland, or fedora with my regular gnome and arch with hyprland

[umbral coral]

Why don't you do that?

[maiden marsh]

Tumbleweed is also pretty great

[ebon tide]

which one

[ebon tide]

whats a tunbleweed

[umbral coral]

Fedora and Hyprland

[maiden marsh]

Opensuse tumbleweed

[ebon tide]

cuz last time i tried getting hyprland on my fedora it didnt work

[maiden marsh]

A rolling release distro

From opensuse

[umbral coral]

Ok whatever

It's probably best that you just partition it for those two then

[ebon tide]

and how do i do that 😓

i feel like a dumbass

[umbral coral]

Your other PC has a drive in it right?

[ebon tide]

yes

[umbral coral]

Plug in the drive to that PC

Clear it

[ebon tide]

so i gotta unscrew my old pc

one sec

[umbral coral]

And make two partitions

[umbral coral]

If it's not too much of a hassle

[ebon tide]

hopefully

[umbral coral]

Maybe just install Gentoo instead

[ebon tide]

isnt gentoo rly hard aswell?

[umbral coral]

Basically the same

[ebon tide]

[umbral coral]

You have a laptop?

[ebon tide]

i have my moms laptop yeah

[umbral coral]

Is it yours or hers

[ebon tide]

hers

she uses it for work

[umbral coral]

Oh

[ebon tide]

was it over before it even started

wtv

so what now

[umbral coral]

You took it out?

Actually just use Fedora

The one you have

And get Hyprland on it

[ebon tide]

i have no idea how to open that pc but wait gimme a moment

[ebon tide]

yeah do you know how to tho

[umbral coral]

Not really

[ebon tide]

cuz i think the only issue i had was at the point where

my configs wouldnt even get reconized

and wayland had an error

well

basically it was a mess

fedora discord serv is ass

[umbral coral]

Get Arch in a VM

I guess

[ebon tide]

which vm is the best

[umbral coral]

You can get Virtualbox or Virtual Machine Manager

[ebon tide]

ill use virtual machine manager

whats the website

[umbral coral]

https://virt-manager.org/

[ebon tide]

completed

what do i do from noe

now

[umbral coral]

Make an Arch VM

Tbh just screen share

[ebon tide]

igu one sec

i gotta install discord

or

i could jus

[umbral coral]

Yeah

[ebon tide]

yeah phone is alright

[umbral coral]

No

Just use the site

[ebon tide]

alright

[ebon tide]

"fixed" this issue by downloading arch on a vm ig

[dire gyro]

Damn

The guide i sent you yesterday would be a thousand times simpler than trying to fuck with the iso

[ebon tide]

I FIXED IT

basically jus putting nomodeset and noapic ig

[dire gyro]

yes that is a good fix

honestly should've thought about that but didn't want to guess

[ebon tide]

okay but

i have a shit issue about

time synchronization not completing

[dire gyro]

what do you see exactly? does that command hang?

[ebon tide]

yes

its a orange line

[dire gyro]

and which command is that

[dire gyro]

orange line?

[ebon tide]

basically i did archinstall on the root

and after it created partitions

[dire gyro]

so you're talking about archinstall?

[ebon tide]

it said time wasnt sync

[dire gyro]

a picture would be nice

[ebon tide]

I have to go rn but in about 30 mins ill boot back into my pc

[ebon tide]

literlly the same

[royal burrow]

before anything continues

[dire gyro]

and what happens if you go to that website and follow the instructions

[royal burrow]

sometimes usbs can be an issue

[dire gyro]

yeah

[royal burrow]

i have this one usb that always fails

use archinstall

see what happens

[ebon tide]

exactly what i did

that ended up in the time not being sync

[ebon tide]

ive heard some softwares need ntp

[royal burrow]

did you select the correct time zone?

[ebon tide]

yes ik where i live 😥

[dire gyro]

yeah but you can configure that on your system

[ebon tide]

i see ill try that

[royal burrow]

im just sayin cuz im in the uk and the timezone i selected also created some issues

[royal burrow]

but arch is installed right?

[ebon tide]

well bc of that orange thingy

it wont install

cuz it jus

[royal burrow]

what orange thingy

[ebon tide]

here

[dire gyro]

i'm 99% sure it's red not orange

[royal burrow]

make that a 100

[ebon tide]

on my life its orange

[royal burrow]

your display may not have the right colours

or setup

its always red

[dire gyro]

it's red here

[royal burrow]

least of our worries tho

[ebon tide]

false cuz theres a orange and red

error

ive encountered

[dire gyro]

damn, never seen an orange error

[royal burrow]

same

guess i have messed up enough

i would reinstall the iso file onto the usb

and wipe the current drive

[ebon tide]

here

[royal burrow]

just restart

[royal burrow]

ahh i see

[dire gyro]

or try another usb

[royal burrow]

fr

my usbs hate linux

[ebon tide]

fuck the usb

[royal burrow]

fr

restarting is your best option

[dire gyro]

or you can juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust install it from fedoraaaaaaaaaaaa..

it's really simple

[ebon tide]

ima flash it with my ssd

[royal burrow]

noooo

ive only ever used arch and debian

arch is super fun

even as beginner

[dire gyro]

they have fedora already installed

[royal burrow]

flash whatever, reinstalling is the best option

[ebon tide]

sudo Pacman -S opsec

[ebon tide]

yes

[royal burrow]

then staying with fedora seems like the right route

[dire gyro]

i'm trying to figure out where the fuck did that come from

i keep seeing it

i'm not on tiktok so i wouldn't know

[royal burrow]

unless they just tried it temporarily

[royal burrow]

ive nmever seen that

[ebon tide]

so basically

[royal burrow]

what does it mean

[ebon tide]

operational security is based around vpns tor vms and much more

and people jus say

[dire gyro]

i know what opsec is

[ebon tide]

“jus do sudo apt install opsec”

[dire gyro]

i don't know why people keep saying pacman -S opsec

[ebon tide]

or sum like thay

[dire gyro]

what are the origins

[royal burrow]

same origins as 67, random bs

[dire gyro]

i don't know what 67 is

[ebon tide]

skids jus playin around ig

it kinda became a meme on opsec tok

[royal burrow]

never heard of 67?

[dire gyro]

i've heard of the number

nothing more

[royal burrow]

the meme kid

search it up

its stupid

[dire gyro]

oh yeah i don't watch memes

[ebon tide]

good

[royal burrow]

neither

[dire gyro]

maybe that's why

[royal burrow]

but its just so popular

[dire gyro]

brainrot can't reach me

[ebon tide]

too* popular

[dire gyro]

i'm too cultured

[royal burrow]

we should probably get back to arch

or keep fedora

either way works

[dire gyro]

you can just install arch from fedoraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[ebon tide]

no wait

im so close to

installing arch

[dire gyro]

you would be on arch right now if you installed it from fedora

but okay

[ebon tide]

okay we are doing that

[royal burrow]

how would you install it from fedora

[ebon tide]

AFTER I TRY TO DISABLE THE TIME SYNCHRO

[dire gyro]

the same way arch can be installed from the arch iso

by utilizing arch-install-scripts

[royal burrow]

ahh i see

[ebon tide]

It wont wipe my fedora right

[dire gyro]

and some additional stuff

[dire gyro]

no

do you want to keep fedora?

[royal burrow]

ive never used this before so im out

[ebon tide]

yes

[royal burrow]

only usb method

[ebon tide]

no wait

jus watch

[dire gyro]

me neither but i know it's possible and i know i can do it

[ebon tide]

u sure?

[dire gyro]

oh actually i installed gentoo like that

nevermind

just remembered

[ebon tide]

good

what gentoo

[dire gyro]

what do you mean what gentoo

[ebon tide]

i only know that its hard

whats genton

[royal burrow]

GENTOO

[ebon tide]

mb

[royal burrow]

recompile browser every 10 min

[dire gyro]

[ebon tide]

whats the point of it

[royal burrow]

[dire gyro]

you compile all the software

[royal burrow]

from source

[dire gyro]

(no point in it but femboys like it)

[ebon tide]

whats a compile

[royal burrow]

so you like it?.

[ebon tide]

is this server gay or what

is arch gay

[dire gyro]

compiling is a process that turns source code into an executable file you can run

[royal burrow]

literally learned this today in comp science

[ebon tide]

like .exe?

[dire gyro]

yes, for example

[royal burrow]

for linux

more like a .sh

[ebon tide]

wow

thats odly interesting

but shit at the same time

[dire gyro]

no, that's usually a shell script, not a binary executable you get from compiling

[royal burrow]

you just run some commands and so some satanic shi to build the whole application from source

[dire gyro]

binaries on linux usually don't have extentions at all

[royal burrow]

now imagine gentoo with a single line interpreter

compiling that would be harder

[dire gyro]

gentoo's package manager is written in python and even though i like python, i hate the fact it's written in it

[royal burrow]

lol

im learnign c# rn

[dire gyro]

it makes it really slow compared to pacman

[royal burrow]

i picked arch cuz pacman as a package manager sounded cool

[ebon tide]

kinda same

okay we in

what we doing

[royal burrow]

iwctl

[ebon tide]

i alr have ethernet

[royal burrow]

oh nice

archinstall

[ebon tide]

am i not going to disabled ntp first

or

not ntp

[royal burrow]

sure

[ebon tide]

the

time

[royal burrow]

if thats an issue

[ebon tide]

synch

[royal burrow]

whats causing the issue

[ebon tide]

archinstall —skip-ntp

[ebon tide]

no idea

[dire gyro]

can you actually try using another usb?

[royal burrow]

im not skilled enough to guide through the errors

[ebon tide]

ima have to ask my dad if he has anoher usb

[royal burrow]

could help

[ebon tide]

one moment peoples

[royal burrow]

i have to go eat ill check back in

good luck

[ebon tide]

he says he knows he has one but isnt sure if it exists

??? 😭

[dire gyro]

maybe it vanished

[ebon tide]

give me a random guy name

for a username

[dire gyro]

Albert

[ebon tide]

ima choose hyprland and kde for environnement

bc thats what worked in the vm

[dire gyro]

it's surprising to see hyprland working in a vm

[ebon tide]

but next time i tried to run the vm

it didnt work

like

no arch

no nothing

yeah i jus have issues eith the keyrings and shit

fuck that

@dire gyro how do i install arch from fedora

[dire gyro]

i sent you an article yesterday. do you need full guidance or you can just follow it as best as you can?

[ebon tide]

full guidance cuz im slow

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Install_Arch_Linux_from_existing_Linux

[dire gyro]

so there's this thing you could try

https://github.com/wick3dr0se/archstrap

[ebon tide]

alright

@dire gyro what should i put in the mountpoint and rootfs_name

[dire gyro]

make a partition for arch and mount it

[ebon tide]

how do i do that

[dire gyro]

you can use the Disks app on gnome

or GParted

but you can do it only if you have some free space left, you can't shrink your current partition while the system is running

you could temporarily bootstrap it into a swap partition or something after unmounting it and formatting it

and then move it onto a proper partition

[ebon tide]

yeah yeah

i mean

what do i do from there

@dire gyro

[dire gyro]

what's partition 2?

[ebon tide]

extended boot partition

first one is this

[dire gyro]

so you wanna keep fedora right?

[ebon tide]

yes

[dire gyro]

so we're kinda stuck now, because in order to achieve it, you need at least 1 GB of free space, but you don't have it and can't have it while the system is running - you need to have a usb for that which is pretty ironic

[ebon tide]

well my dad found a working usb with 32 gigs

dont know if that helps

[dire gyro]

it might help

[ebon tide]

should i install arch on that usb

and boot into it again?

[dire gyro]

yes

[ebon tide]

one sec

archinstall as always?

or are we doin it differently

[dire gyro]

yes

but i always advise to partinion manually before archinstall

and partition manually inside archinstall

[ebon tide]

uhhh sure ig so guide me through

or anyone ig

no one

[royal burrow]

"if no one comes to the rescue, the internet is your best friend" - me

[ebon tide]

fuck the internet

[royal burrow]

"those who refuse to turn to the internet for wisdom, are GAY"

[ebon tide]

bro jus help me fix this shit

[royal burrow]

imma keep it straight

idk how to

im not skilled in this at all

what im skilled at is customising and using arch

[royal burrow]

i would honestly turn to ai or internet

best bet

[ebon tide]

you are basically useless

[royal burrow]

ye

at this shi

[ebon tide]

no ur useless

[royal burrow]

so i cant solve it

im useless?

then it would appear that you are also useless

since you cant solve it either

could be me having this issue anyway