#[SOLVED] Can't install Arch because of a fake USB flash drive

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marsh bluff
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So I used Rufus to make a bootable USB flash stick to install Arch but I can not boot into it because I have an Nvidia GPU in my laptop and when I try to boot into the flash to start installation I believe the kernel fails and the screen just flickers to black and puts me back in the boot menu. I read that to fix this I have to somehow edit the boot parameters and add the "modprobe.blacklist=nouveau" line or a similar one, but for some reason I just don't have an option to edit these parameters (I already tried pressing all of the function keys, tab, space, shift, c and e in the boot menu but none of them do anything). If it helps, my laptop is ASUS TUF Gaming F17 and I already checked the BIOS setting and turned off both Fast Boot and Secure Boot. Does someone know how can I boot into the flash?

ember ravine
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i have a tuf gaming f15.

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delete that line

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instead type nomodeset

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and also

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that line doesnt belong there anyway

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it should be a conf

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now,

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dekete it

marsh bluff
# ember ravine delete that line

I didn't add the line in the first place. as I said, I cannot edit the boot parameters. I just heard that this might be the solution. The problem is I can't do anything in the boot menu except trying to boot the flash drive, which fails because of Nvidia. Are there any other ways to avoid kernel trying to use Nvidia drivers?

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Yes?

ember ravine
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press e for me

marsh bluff
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yeah i did that, for some reason nothing happens

ember ravine
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what the hell

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can u record a vido or smth

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record the system

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i need u to record u the system booting up

marsh bluff
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ok hold on

marsh bluff
marsh bluff
ember ravine
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bro

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thats not a nvidia issue

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u flashed it wrong

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lmao

marsh bluff
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really? bruh sorry im new to this

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how do i do it then?

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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yeah im on windows right now

ember ravine
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can u download the exe

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or this

marsh bluff
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imma try the other one

marsh bluff
ember ravine
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now reboot into the flash drive

marsh bluff
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my usb disappeared from the disk list tho

ember ravine
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windows cant see UDF 1.0

marsh bluff
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ok

ember ravine
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jsut reboot

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your american megatrends bios can boot from cd it will work

marsh bluff
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ok ill try

ember ravine
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btw heres my f15

marsh bluff
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well its not there now

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i mean its there (Disk 2) but neither windows nor the boot menu see it

ember ravine
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open diskmgmt.msc

marsh bluff
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wdym

marsh bluff
ember ravine
marsh bluff
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E: is the flash drive

ember ravine
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okay

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what we will do is..

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ventoy

marsh bluff
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ok

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i heard about this one

ember ravine
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install ventoy to your usb

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Ventoy is an open source tool to create bootable USB drive for ISO files. With ventoy, you don't need to format the disk again and again, you just need to copy the iso file to the USB drive and boot it.

marsh bluff
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this is what it downloaded

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i need the ventoy2disk right?

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i dont see where to put the ISO file here

ember ravine
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we will copy the file later

marsh bluff
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ok

ember ravine
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wait

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uhm

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x86?

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and,

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press options

marsh bluff
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did i install the wrong one?

marsh bluff
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man im so friggin dumb

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it broke the flash again

ember ravine
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a SMALLER one

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or

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okay

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open diskpart

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clean

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convert gpt

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create partition primary

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select partition 1

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active

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format fs=ntfs quick

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exit

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then retry on ventoy

marsh bluff
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DISKPART> active

The selected disk is not a fixed MBR disk.
The ACTIVE command can only be used on fixed MBR disks.

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active didnt work

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is it necesary?

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and formatting isnt working either

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ok wait im gonna try to recover it

ember ravine
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oh my.

marsh bluff
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ok good news

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the flash is back

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i dunno if i should do the ventoy again tho. is it not gonna break it this time? maybe change some settings first?

marsh bluff
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"yes" for try it again?

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or change the settings

ember ravine
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change.

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wait

marsh bluff
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ok

ember ravine
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partition style>gpt

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then

marsh bluff
ember ravine
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tick the preserve some space

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write 800

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then okau

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now please send photo

marsh bluff
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do i change the file system?

ember ravine
ember ravine
marsh bluff
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ok

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so im gonna change it to udf and try again then?

ember ravine
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Mo

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just a second i have to look at gparted of my usb

marsh bluff
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ok

ember ravine
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okay

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its exFAT

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leave it as is please

marsh bluff
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oh so dont change it

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ok

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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yes

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anything else?

ember ravine
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nope

marsh bluff
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i dunno it looks like the only thing we changed is the reserved space right now

marsh bluff
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cuz i already had GPT as partition style

marsh bluff
ember ravine
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can u please press okay then install

ember ravine
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we will do UDF if that doesnt work

marsh bluff
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ok

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thank you so much for your patience

ember ravine
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no problem😊

marsh bluff
ember ravine
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fuck

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go to the downlaods

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and in the ventoy folder

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theres log.txt

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i need to look in it

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please open it

marsh bluff
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ok its a loong file

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you want the whole log?

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or the last messages

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[2025/08/29 15:04:52.454] ### [Check Fail] The data write and read does not match
[2025/08/29 15:04:52.474] FormatPart2Fat failed.
[2025/08/29 15:04:52.487] FindProcessOccupyDisk for PhyDrive 2
[2025/08/29 15:04:52.503] QueryDosDeviceA success \Device\Harddisk2\DR2
[2025/08/29 15:04:52.578] handles->NumberOfHandles = 99857
[2025/08/29 15:04:52.579] NOTE: Could not identify the process(es) or service(s) accessing \Device\Harddisk2\DR2
[2025/08/29 15:05:13.832] Not ventoy disk, set secure boot option

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here are the last ones

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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it is

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should it be off?

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well that makes sense actually

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i dont even have secure boot enabled

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maybe thats the problem

ember ravine
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send me them all please somehow

marsh bluff
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the whole logs?

ember ravine
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yes

marsh bluff
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does this work?

ember ravine
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it shows.ö

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it shows read write errors

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its bad

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uhmmm

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lets see

marsh bluff
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could it be cuz the flash is messed up after all that stuff i did

ember ravine
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the drive could be cooked a bit

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or.. not 1 tb at all

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like 256 or smth

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can u please change to UDF

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and try again

marsh bluff
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ok lemme just fix the flash first

marsh bluff
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well even if its not 1tb

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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still it would be enough

marsh bluff
ember ravine
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if u had a linux system we could try dd

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anyway

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does it install now

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dont u have ANY other flash thumb drive

marsh bluff
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ok the flash is back to life

ember ravine
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do it again please

marsh bluff
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so now with udf

ember ravine
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it will install UDF 1.0 or UDF1.4

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it WILL work

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with your sysfem

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bıt

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has to format

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first

marsh bluff
ember ravine
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it will boot

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but.. has to flash first

marsh bluff
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wait

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i didnt have to turn off the secure boot option right?

ember ravine
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no

marsh bluff
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ok well i left it enabled

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so all of the setting were right

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i got some bad news then

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😭

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man idk anymore

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the flash broke again

ember ravine
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dont u have sny other drive

marsh bluff
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i mean i can borrow one probably

ember ravine
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this ones controller broken or its not what its size

marsh bluff
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so ill have to find another one

ember ravine
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HOW

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wait

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debian onlinetrollface 700 mb

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download debian NOW

marsh bluff
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ahaha

marsh bluff
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its a music player as well bruh

ember ravine
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uh

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arch is 2.7 gigs lol

marsh bluff
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is it?

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the iso file i got is 1.3

ember ravine
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wot

marsh bluff
ember ravine
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anyway

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not relevant

marsh bluff
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ok so what do we got now

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i gotta find a new flash drive

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and then use ventoy again

ember ravine
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hmmmmmm

marsh bluff
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but udf or exfat?

ember ravine
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do u have a archiso right now?

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anywhere

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awailable

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i need a liveiso

marsh bluff
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u mean the iso file from archlinux dot org?

ember ravine
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oh yes

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on a flash

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like

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a linux with base utils

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and grub

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that way..

marsh bluff
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umm

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idk i only got the iso file i downloaded from the site

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man u know what

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i think my flash IS fake

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its supposed to be kingston

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but in any program its just "general udisk"

ember ravine
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your problem solved

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set this up

marsh bluff
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uh

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i did

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it says it wants wired internet

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it doesnt support wifi

ember ravine
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just second plz

marsh bluff
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but it still needs internet

ember ravine
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uhh

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can u do usb tethering

marsh bluff
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what is that

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oh

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well i can try

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ok i did it

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that was surprisingly easy

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ok now it works

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i dont have to change anything on the site right?

ember ravine
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i need to see qhat u are seeing

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please take photo

marsh bluff
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the white boxes got my ip adress written and stuff

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the manual says i should just press the green button

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soo

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do i press the button?

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homie u there?

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honestly im starving

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so im gonna go cook something and then come back

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so take your time

ember ravine
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press configuration

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we will continur from there.

marsh bluff
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sorry it took so long

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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ok here it is

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what do i change here?

marsh bluff
ember ravine
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uhm

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change nothing.

marsh bluff
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oh ok

ember ravine
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jsut press the green button on start

ember ravine
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anyway

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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alright

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uh

ember ravine
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u should boot from PXE boot

marsh bluff
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it says its running

ember ravine
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oh.. shit...

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lmao

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did anything hapen?

marsh bluff
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not really

ember ravine
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if not

marsh bluff
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what was supposed to happen

ember ravine
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alright.

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stop everything

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install grub4win.

ember ravine
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your pc is a server now.

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just close it.

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im sorry.

marsh bluff
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wha

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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so we not using iventoy

ember ravine
ember ravine
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im sorry

marsh bluff
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ok

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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bruh

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i already installed some garbage called "grub4win"

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and its grub2win

marsh bluff
dusty wedgeBOT
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leopard1a5_no2 received a thank you cookie!

marsh bluff
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ahaha

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the one u sent me said that it is too old and gave me another link

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now im doin it again

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ok wait its not working

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oh my god man

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this thing doesn't frickin work for me

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i mean what i can do is try a new flash drive

ember ravine
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AAAAAAA

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lmao

marsh bluff
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yeah

ember ravine
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i have like 8 THUMB DRIVES

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if i could i would missle one to you

marsh bluff
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ahahaha

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btw

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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which way did you install your linux?

marsh bluff
ember ravine
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i used rufus

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to flash it to a thumb drive

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then i switched distros.

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i just used dd in them

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im telling u.

marsh bluff
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ohhhh

ember ravine
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we can do a online installer

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with your 1 gig flash

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thennu can switch

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download debian

marsh bluff
marsh bluff
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maybe thats the way

ember ravine
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okay download debian for me

marsh bluff
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they got an official cite?

ember ravine
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press download

marsh bluff
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the file has "amd64"

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is it ok?

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cuz i dont use amd

ember ravine
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hey shh

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thats not it lol

marsh bluff
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ok

ember ravine
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that just means cpu artitechcure x64

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amd licenced it first

marsh bluff
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ohhh

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alright so whats next

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rufus?

ember ravine
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did it download

marsh bluff
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yeah

ember ravine
ember ravine
marsh bluff
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oh

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the 1 gb one?

ember ravine
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with rufus

marsh bluff
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yeah

ember ravine
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....

marsh bluff
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well rufus was the first thing i used

ember ravine
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bro

marsh bluff
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but then it didnt boot

ember ravine
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anyway

marsh bluff
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thats why i made this post in the first place

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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huh

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configs?

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u mean the window screenshot?

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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yeah

ember ravine
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then send me the rufus window

marsh bluff
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ok

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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the ISO mode right?

ember ravine
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huh

marsh bluff
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well it can do ISO mode, DD mode and ISO to ESP mode

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when i click start

ember ravine
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whats the default

marsh bluff
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ISO

ember ravine
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do that

marsh bluff
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ok

ember ravine
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wait

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is yoır usb..

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a hard drive..

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im gonna cry

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jk

marsh bluff
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oh

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i guess it is

ember ravine
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no no problem

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let it do it

marsh bluff
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alright

ember ravine
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lets see what happens

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also

marsh bluff
ember ravine
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disk

marsh bluff
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oh

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so like

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HDD

ember ravine
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mhm

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hard disc drive

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that doesnt matter. although, u need tı boot into bios when u reboot for me

marsh bluff
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the bios?

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what do i do there

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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i mean why do i need to go to the bios

ember ravine
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amd there could be a setting

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like boot from ahrd drive

marsh bluff
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oh ok

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well rufus is done

marsh bluff
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i think i checked the whole bios

ember ravine
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please just reboot into bios

marsh bluff
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theres like 2 options which relate to boot

ember ravine
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?

marsh bluff
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fast boot and secure boot

ember ravine
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shut off them

marsh bluff
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they are disabled

ember ravine
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nicr

marsh bluff
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ok so now i go to bios and try to boot the flash

ember ravine
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yup

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press f8

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in bios

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select the drive

marsh bluff
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ok so exactly the same thing

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black flicker

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and nothing

ember ravine
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...

marsh bluff
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maybe its the flash after all

ember ravine
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...

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hmm

marsh bluff
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or the nvidia drivers

ember ravine
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its the flash drive

marsh bluff
ember ravine
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we have almost the SAME pc

marsh bluff
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alright

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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so you got nvidia gpu as well?

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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ok

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thanks

ember ravine
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so

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im not sure what we will do :(

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do u have other pc

marsh bluff
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i have an old laptop

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but its asus as well

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and i tried it

ember ravine
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jackpot

marsh bluff
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and it got the same flicker

ember ravine
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do u have a ethernet cable

marsh bluff
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i do

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i think it works

ember ravine
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we are gonna set up iventoy on that old asus

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connect the two pc

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and then network pxe boot

marsh bluff
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damn

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oh

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im sorry i wont be able to do it

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the cable is in my country house, im going there today but then im gonna have to take the laptop with me and im going there on a train

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i could do this on the next weekend

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maybe i just try to find another usb flash

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im so sorry man i ran you through all of this

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its very frustrating

ember ravine
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alright its the manual method.
open windows.
diskpart
select disk x
clean
convert gpt
creare partion primary
select partition 1
active
format fs=ntfs quick
assign
exit
select your iso drive so it mounts as a virtual drive

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then this. D: is the virtual drives letter, E: s the flash drives letter. change them respectively. xcopy D:* E:\ /E /F /H

marsh bluff
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what exactly is this

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so the diskpart thing is to make the flash fitting?

ember ravine
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lastly, go to the boot section inside the drive

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cd D:/boot/

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bootsect /nt60 D:

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chamge the letters too okau

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if this doesnt work im done man

marsh bluff
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so from what i understood im gonna open the iso file and its gonna act like a disk, but its gonna be a virtual one

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then change the letters?

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ohhh

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wait

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so you wanna change the ISO virtual disk's letter to E?

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so i use it instead of my flash

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i dont really get it

ember ravine
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write the things i gave you

marsh bluff
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ok wait wait wait

ember ravine
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but changing the letters inside the code respectively

marsh bluff
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firstly the diskpart thing

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"active" command doesn't work, it says it can be used for MBR disks and we just used "convert GPT" so we got a GPT disk

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are you sure this is how it should go?

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DISKPART> active

The selected disk is not a fixed MBR disk.
The ACTIVE command can only be used on fixed MBR disks.

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this is the response i get

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i just did

list disk
select disk 2
clean
create partition primary
select partition 1
format quick

maybe its the same thing idk

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but i still dont understand where you want me to change the letters

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the disk management?

ember ravine
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okay

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did u assign

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bro.

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JUST GO TO RUFUS AND TRY DD MODE.

marsh bluff
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sorry man 😭

marsh bluff
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but ok ill try it again

ember ravine
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windows doesnt support udf

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it wont see it

ember ravine
dusty wedgeBOT
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boogle8 received a thank you cookie!

marsh bluff
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ok im doin it right now with the debian iso

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ok its done

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the drive is still here doe

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interesting

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so now i restart and try to boot it

ember ravine
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sur

ember ravine
dusty wedgeBOT
marsh bluff
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oh

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my

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god

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i have no clue what do i do from here but WE DID IT

ember ravine
marsh bluff
ember ravine
marsh bluff
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oh

ember ravine
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graphical install

marsh bluff
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sorry

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uhh

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k wait a sec

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i just dont got discord on my phone

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maybe there is like a guide on the full installation

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cuz id have to boot into windows every time to use discord

ember ravine
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uh

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... installation

ember ravine
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no

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.. installation

vernal cypressBOT
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Too few arguments for command addnote!
Usage: .addnote <name> <text>

marsh bluff
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but its arch

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and the thing i got on my usb is debian

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maybe i can do the same to arch

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it just didnt work the last time

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i dont really know what to do now

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i can either try to install debian

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or try to do the same trick with arch

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in rufus

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well i already know how to do debian right

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so if i fail with arch i can just do it again

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ok you know what

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ill have to go pack my things cuz im leaving today anyways so i dont think ill have enough time to install any one of those

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im just gonna leave it as it is right now

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and tomorrow im gonna decide which is the better way to do it

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thank you SO MUCH for all of your help and sorry that it was so frustrating. i am REALLY grateful to you for patience twin

ember ravine
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np gang

marsh bluff
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im definitely gonna come back here tomorrow so ill let you know if i succeded

ember ravine
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sure

marsh bluff
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i hope it doesn't stop workin tho

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or were gonna have to spend another day figuring it out :))

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jk

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so bye for now

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see u tomorrow

ember ravine
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cya

ember ravine
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install the debian

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u can dual boot

marsh bluff
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yeah i just though about that

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i dont lose nun by installing debian

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i can install it and then do arch

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and after that im jus gonna remove debian

marsh bluff
marsh bluff
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it says something like "wrong magical number" or something like that

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it also says "you need to load kernel first"

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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its disabled

ember ravine
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wot

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delete the secur eboot keys

marsh bluff
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wdym

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what keys

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i can only disable or enable it in bios

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ok wait im gonna check

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i had to enable secure boot to see them but here they are

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no keys

ember ravine
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i

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if they emptu

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just a secundo

marsh bluff
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it has to be the flash

ember ravine
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its not

ember ravine
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the photo

marsh bluff
marsh bluff
ember ravine
marsh bluff
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ok

ember ravine
# marsh bluff ok

brother can u try making the boot entry that debian is in is first order like this one

marsh bluff
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well its not installed yet

ember ravine
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what u mean

marsh bluff
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i only have windows boot manager and the flash

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debian is on the flash

ember ravine
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flash

marsh bluff
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i can

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well it will just boot it right?

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so thats the same as selecting it in the boot menu

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i CAN boot into it but i cant do the installation cause of the errors

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yeah i just tried it and its the same thing

marsh bluff
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maybe i try to do the arch flash through dd again

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and if its not working ill try to find another flash

ember ravine
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shit

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THROW THAT FLASH DRIVE OIT OF THE FUCKONG WINDOW or.. retry installing debian iso

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check how much gigabytws is it

ember ravine
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how much gigs is the debian iso

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it should be 4.3

marsh bluff
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what

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its 754 mb

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how can it be 4 gigs

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i downloaded it from the official site

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oh i found it

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there are cd and dvd iso's

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and the dvd one is 4 gigs

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but do i need the dvd one?

ember ravine
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hahaha

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no bro

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it failed

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press download my bro

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it should be 4.3 gigs

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press the downlaod here

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its 4.3 gigs

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not 750

marsh bluff
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fym "it failed"

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if you go to all installations there are CD installations and DVD installations. CD ones are 750 mb and DVD ones are 4 gb

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you want me to get the dvd one?

marsh bluff
ember ravine
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.... what the shit?

ember ravine
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im sorry lol

marsh bluff
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ok

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its gonna take like 11 mins

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ok done

marsh bluff
ember ravine
marsh bluff
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lemme try rebooting

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ok it booted up

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its the grub console

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it doesnt have graphic install or just install options like last time

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just the console

ember ravine
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what

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whats on your screen..

marsh bluff
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idk maybe i gotta type something to open the install window

ember ravine
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uhh photo plz

marsh bluff
marsh bluff
marsh bluff
ember ravine
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im gonna kill myself

marsh bluff
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bruh

ember ravine
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thats recovery grub

marsh bluff
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maybe i try something ultra simple

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like mint

ember ravine
ember ravine
marsh bluff
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is it easier?

marsh bluff
ember ravine
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please reboot and select correct partition maybe

marsh bluff
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no such command

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what exactly are we trying to do if its the recovery terminal

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is there even a way to start installation

ember ravine
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i said reboot

marsh bluff
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what

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i did

ember ravine
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from your bios.

marsh bluff
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doesnt matter

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i just boot into the flash

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oh wait

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im stupid

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"correct partition"?

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ill try to find it

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i dont see it

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is there such option in the bios?

marsh bluff
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you want me to go to my bios right

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so then what

ember ravine
marsh bluff
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yeah

ember ravine
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show me them

marsh bluff
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ok

modern cloak
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OP wants arch
Ends with Debian for ??? Reason
harold1
Just get a good flash drive, ventoy gpt mode, then disable secure boot, fast boot, legacy support CSM and boot arch. Install, then enjoy

modern cloak
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But if OP has no idea about Linux, the easiest solution is to install Linux mint

ember ravine
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LIKE VERSION 307 HAS LEGACY BOOT

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ventoy doesnt work, error at all times

modern cloak
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Tldr, get a better flash drive

marsh bluff
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boot options

ember ravine
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so

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what pres f8 in easy menu

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select the drive

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lets see

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and record the thing

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booting up

marsh bluff
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u mean the flash

ember ravine
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yes select the flash

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record though

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i wanna see errors

marsh bluff
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well its just gonna be a black screen and then the terminal

marsh bluff
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here its just the terminal, no errors

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or maybe i just dont see them

ember ravine
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prolly corrupted iso

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or..

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your flash drive needs to be burmed

marsh bluff
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bruh

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what happened to the quality

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well i think u get the point

marsh bluff
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it has to be the flash

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or idk

ember ravine
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bro

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do u have any hard sata drives

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can u remove them

marsh bluff
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@ember ravine FINALLY

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and guess what was the problem

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i borrowed my neighbor's flash drive and it worked first try

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[SOLVED] Can't install Arch because of a fake USB flash drive

ember ravine
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good job

marsh bluff
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thank youu

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sorry we had to do all that stuff