#How to control fan speed on msi?

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sharp plaza
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does your laptop have a bios override?

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like in your bios

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can you set your fan speed

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i can do it on my desktop

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what was the issue with mcontrolcenter?

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have you tried running it from the terminal

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to see what error it throwsd

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throws

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try mcontrolcenter from the terminal

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and see what it errors with

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it'll give you logs

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let me check the arch pacakge

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its from aur?

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where'd you get it from

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straight from there

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?

grim jungle
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yes the setup was a bit wonky but maybe its cuz im new to linux

delicate warren
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he compiled it himself

sharp plaza
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did you build it yourself

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ah

delicate warren
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yes

sharp plaza
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id try the aur package first

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perhaps it does something extra

delicate warren
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give him the cmd he uses paru

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idk the AUR for mcontrolcenter

sharp plaza
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no clue how to use paru

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it is mcontrolcenter-bin

delicate warren
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its literally pacman

sharp plaza
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probably paru -S mcontrolcenter-bin

delicate warren
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paru -S mcontrolcenter-bin

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yes

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u should

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remove

sharp plaza
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yea

delicate warren
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your compiled one

sharp plaza
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make sure you uninstall the old one

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first

delicate warren
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alr.

sharp plaza
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fantastic

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well you can

delicate warren
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i luv it

sharp plaza
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still do it

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no

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just uninstall the paru one

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then uninstall the other one aswell

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then go again

delicate warren
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yeah bro you definitely bricked it from a paru command!

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have fun in purgatory!

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Rs

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Rs

sharp plaza
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Qs just shows package info

delicate warren
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Rs is to delete

sharp plaza
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do pacman -Q | grep mcontrolcenter

delicate warren
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probably just mcontrolcenter then?

sharp plaza
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it will probably not have

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-bin

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that is just the AUR name

delicate warren
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bin is just basically precompiled

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after installation it should be without -bin

sharp plaza
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lmao

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dont write do aswell

delicate warren
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HAHAHAHAHHA

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thats so amazing

sharp plaza
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do pacman instead of paru

delicate warren
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sudo pacman?

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maybe?

sharp plaza
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no sudo

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cmon man

delicate warren
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fare enough

sharp plaza
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you literally wrote do

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first time

delicate warren
sharp plaza
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show me what command

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you ran to install it

delicate warren
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he will enjoy it in like 3 days time

sharp plaza
delicate warren
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linux

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first we tried mint then arch

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arch was somehow quicker.

sharp plaza
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do pacman -Q | grep control

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do NOT

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write do

delicate warren
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you could just

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pacman -Q | grep control

sharp plaza
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so you dont have it

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no clue why you said you installed it

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and it was too late

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anyways uninstall that old one

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that you manually did

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you know how to?

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does it use meson

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let me see its src

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its cmake

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try make uninstall

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in its directory

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if it doesnt work we'll just ignore it

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it is unlikely to cause an issue

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PKGBUILD will overwrite it anyway

delicate warren
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why bother deleting it then

sharp plaza
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dang howd you even get onto arch

sharp plaza
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its just unlikely

delicate warren
sharp plaza
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couldve taught him some stuff lmao

delicate warren
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guilty

sharp plaza
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anyways

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basically

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you see your terminal?

delicate warren
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were on seperate parts of the world

sharp plaza
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you use the command "cd"

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to change directory

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cd means change directoryu

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you use the command "ls" to see what you are in

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you did a git clone somewhere

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dang man

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you really can't see it

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in that image?

delicate warren
sharp plaza
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eh either way doesnt matter

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man when you said

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you knew how to use cd

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i was going to explain it

delicate warren
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amazing

sharp plaza
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but you said you knew

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i pray bro

delicate warren
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LET BRO HELP YOU

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he seems smarter than me

sharp plaza
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do paru -S mcontrolcenter-bin

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fantastic news

delicate warren
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good person

sharp plaza
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make uninstall

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its unlikely to work

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because noone writes it for cmake

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no

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do make uninstall

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then see what happens

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do ls

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no clue what the hell it is doing

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what text editor do you use

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before you run it

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this is not normal behaviour from most packages

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its some custom build script they do

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i just want to validate it doesn't bomb your pc

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as a funny troll

delicate warren
sharp plaza
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yeah thats good

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run that script

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God bless whoever made that script

delicate warren
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./uninstall.sh or am i stupid

sharp plaza
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should be if theyre in that directory

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you can do either

delicate warren
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🤓

sharp plaza
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because its an executable

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you can do ./uninstall.sh which is most do

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anyways thats uninstalled now

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do paru -S mcontrolcenter-bin

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its probably the .desktop file

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the PKBUILD will tell us about it

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when we try

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we'll remove manually

delicate warren
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i love this guy hes so helpful

sharp plaza
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wait until it doesnt work lmao

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picture?

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you can just copy and paste

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do

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paste it out

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the text

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so i dont have to rewrite it all

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do ctrl shift c

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and ctrl shift v in terminal

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to copy and paste respectively

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do

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sudo rm -r /usr/bin/mcontrolcenter

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we'll just do it one at a time

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yes cos it worked

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now do

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sudo rm -r /usr/libexec/mcontrolcenter-helper

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we're just going down one by one and removing them

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manually

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yes cos it worked

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lmao

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only tell me if theres an error / you've done it

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sudo rm /usr/share/applications/mcontrolcenter.desktop

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sudo rm /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/mcontrolcenter.helper.service

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tell me what the next command is

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that you should do

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yes

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it wont work

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so what is the next command to run

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no

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the bottom two ones

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havent been removed yet

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reread it

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think about the command you've put

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it's similar to the 'do' mistake

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and look at the previous commands that worked

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so what's the new one

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yes

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do those two

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one after eachother

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wait

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not the 2nd one

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you missed a space

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fix that first

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i dont think so

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ss the commands

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yes that's good

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do paru -S mcontrolcenter-bin

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yes

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on the AUR the naming scheme is

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mcontrolcenter would be built from source

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mcontrolcenter-git would be built from source from the latest code

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mcontrolcenter-bin would be it already built for you

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try running it now

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from the terminal

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the program

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its probably

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mcontrolcenter

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reinstall that one

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try install it here

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no

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paru -S msi-ec-git

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the -git on the AUR means

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it pulls directly from the source

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so the PKGBUILD the dude wrote

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inside of it it does git clone

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so its the latest version

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dang this is a shitass kernel module

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that's gonna be annoying

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the source is the latest version

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its built for zen

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wait

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are you on linux zen

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yea its built for

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reg linux

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i mean

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good thing

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there was another goat

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who made another one

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uname

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just do

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fastfetch

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or neofetch

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and see if it says linux zen

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in the kernel section

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dang

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anyways do

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msi-ec-dkms-git

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if you havent run it yet

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give it a moment

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my wifi is being slow

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and i want to read the pkgbuild

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shit its broken lmao

ajbgPbI.png
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i think we can fix that manually

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or you can move to regular linux

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its a kernel module

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basically the kernel loads it

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the msi-ec works with the regular linux kernel

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you have a patched kernel called linux-zen

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which it doesnt work with

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packages that have dkms mean they work with custom kernels

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i think this is the issue

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you have

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you have regular linux?

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get straight on that

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you use grub?

delicate warren
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advanced boot options

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for arch linux

sharp plaza
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change to use regular linux

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yes

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if this works

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we'll uninstall zen

delicate warren
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sorry thats kinda mb

sharp plaza
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linux-zen is not actually really faster

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cachy's kernel minimally is

delicate warren
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i was fed propaganda that all 4 kernels are super cool

sharp plaza
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you should only use zen

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if you need a patch it has

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but i dont think they do

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do regular linux

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fallback means

delicate warren
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Linux Linux

sharp plaza
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if you cook it

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use that one

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i think its the old initramfs

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like when you make a new one

delicate warren
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did you do Linux linux or linux linux-hardened

sharp plaza
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it puts the old one in the fallback

delicate warren
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whats the difference

sharp plaza
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linux-hardened makes the kernel more secure

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but removes features

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and stuff

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you dont want it

delicate warren
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makes sense

sharp plaza
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its a tradeoff

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for example i used linux-zen

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because one patch it had

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allowed you to pass GPUs from any slot into a VMA

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VM

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which the regular linux kernel

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is strict about for security reasons

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but linux-zen allows me to bypass it

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patches to linux

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as in that example

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dkms means

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let me find the exact word

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Dynamic Kernel Module Support

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essentially when people make kernel modules

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they have to compile it to support specific kernels

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so all the compiled ones support linux normal obviously

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they usually wont support linux zen, which as you saw it didnt

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DKMS means that you compile it yourself

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for your own kernel

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to make it support ur stuff

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1 sec

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no

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just normal linux

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if this works we'll uninstall the rest

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you won't be needing them until you learn more

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so did

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paru -S msi-ec-git

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work

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you will probably accidentally boot into one

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then ask why it doesnt work anymore

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i mean you did write do in the command

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so it cant be that hard

sharp plaza
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none of the other kenels

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will work anyway

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until you get the dkms build

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and you will need to fix their PKGBUILD for it

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which albeit easy you will find hard

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nice so it works?

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try reboot now

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make sure to boot into linux

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linux linux

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unsure

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when you're advanced enough

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you won't use grub anyway

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so you're up?

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ah

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yes

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from

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the terminal

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it shows errors

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basically

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wait i will just show it

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no

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in your terminal do

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echo $PATH

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basically

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when you type a random name in the terminal

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it will change in every directory there if it exists

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so it will check if it exists in /usr/local/sbin/

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if it does it runs it

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if it doesnt it checks

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/usr/local/bin/

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if it doesnt then it checks

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/usr/bin/

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/usr/bin is usually where the stuff is

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so do cd /usr/bin

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and we will find it in there

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we will find it

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i just wanted to explain

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why when you run random stuff

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it works and runs stuff

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its because it looks in those stuff

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do ls

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ls means list

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it prints all the tings

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in the current directory

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yes

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that is pretty much

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every program on your system

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now do ls | grep control

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ls you know already

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what grep means

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is print any line that matches with whatever i put after

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so when you do grep control

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print any line that has the word control in it

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the line thing

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|

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means put the output from one command to another

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so basically you do ls

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that gives you that big massive list

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then you do | grep

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that means give that list to grep

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then you do control as a parameter to grep

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yes

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basically ctrl f

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but harder

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you can either do

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./mcontrolcenter

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or you can do mcontrolcenter

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or you can do

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/usr/bin/mcontrolcenter

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you should understand why there is no difference

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yes

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so what happens

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lets see if it works

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yes because the kernel module was never loaded

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it needs the kernel module

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for special access to your system

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which is your fans

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does it stil lgo at max speed

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what does it say in the terminal

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how are you testing fan speed

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so it works or what?

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test

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you know what occt is?

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it is a benchmarking tool

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it will set your cpu on fire

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so its a good way to test

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if your fans work

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do sudo pacman -S occt

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it will 100% tell you

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if it works or not

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you can cancel it whenever

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it just loads your cpu

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this is what it looks like

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you just run start

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then press stop when you want to

delicate warren
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wtf

sharp plaza
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yea

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recently got ported to linux

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like really recently

delicate warren
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only for laptops sadly

sharp plaza
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its not

delicate warren
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sighs in desktop

sharp plaza
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its for anything

delicate warren
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Oh fr

sharp plaza
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im on a desktop

delicate warren
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whats the AUR

sharp plaza
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its not in the AUR

delicate warren
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and the windows exe as well

sharp plaza
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its official

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sudo pacman -S occt

delicate warren
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so i have to compile it myself 😔

sharp plaza
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no

delicate warren
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oh

sharp plaza
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its in arch's official repos

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no need for AUR

delicate warren
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wb the windows

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just occt?

sharp plaza
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its on their website

delicate warren
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alr

sharp plaza
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if you want to download it on windows

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theres a download button for it

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did you test on occt

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so it does stuff

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well first try on occt

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we can do that after

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not like youre gonna crash

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it should work on boot already

delicate warren
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you can check if its on boot already

sharp plaza
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here is the package

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try and figure out the command

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you just need to understand what you are doing

delicate warren
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BOOHOO

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btw reply to his message and say ty

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he needs a thank you cookie

sharp plaza
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cookies aint do anything

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like literally nothing

delicate warren
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its cool to have

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🤷

topaz sandBOT
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deverbs received a thank you cookie!

sharp plaza
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well linux is still gonna be ass

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if you never understand

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what you do

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anyways do you have occt

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need the aura

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there's always opportunities to learn

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just googling each command

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before you run it

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to learn what it does

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you should use sudo pacman -S occt

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never use paru unless you are using the AUR

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its a wrapper

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it isnt

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it uses pacman as a backend

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so it cant ever be superior to pacman

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just use AUR helpers for the AUR

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nothing else

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open occt

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set your fan settings to what you want

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yes

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tis in the name

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in your case i would've gone with yay instead

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but you can bug your friend for paru help anyway

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yay is much more common

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it is easier to find help

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and resources

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that's the biggest difference that matters to you

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but if your friend knows paru

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and helps you when you get stuck

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not much diff

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you get stuck alot

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would you rather have

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a lot of information to help you

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or not as much

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it does

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because you get stuck

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when you need to find help

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it is easier

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you can but shouldnt

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there is no reason

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anyways run occt

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on occt?

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ss it

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my default is different

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go to just CPU

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not CPU + ram

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ss again

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change normal to extreme

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change load type from variable to steady

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yes

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press start

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when your cpu gets to 90 degrees

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press stop

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see if you notice your fans ramp up

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ur gpu isnt doing anything

delicate warren
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linux

sharp plaza
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are your fans going up or what

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you are running occt right?

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you got past that 10s cooldown thing?

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so it went up in speed?

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press stop

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i said at 90

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come on now

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yes cos it stopped

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what fan profile are you on

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you pressed stop?

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well take it off that

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change it to something

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where the fans will ramp up and down

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set it to balanced

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is 3500 max?

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so set it to balanced

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then try running occt

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and see if it goes up

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if there is some

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apply button in that mcontrolcenter app

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make sure you press that

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no need

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probably

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so in occt

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its just staying the same?

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3500?

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how do you know its at 3500

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listen to it

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see if you hear it going up and down

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and its temp is massive?

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let it go higher

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see if it gets louder

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is it still not loud?

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does McontrolCenter say anything in the terminal

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maybe it doesnt need to ramp up

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ah

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its throttled

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if you set the fan profile to

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max perf

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does it go louder

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so it does do stuff

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the program might be working as intended it seems

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but the maths is just ass

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can you ss the entire program

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there is a custom fan control option

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theres a custom option

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no need

delicate warren
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why you @delicate warren

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confirmed it doesnt

sharp plaza
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so literally only those 4 options work?

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program might just be ass

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waity

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ss what yours is

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on fan control

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where is this option

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in fan control

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go to fan speed 1

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set the first 3 to 0

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set the other 4 to max

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ss

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go on occt

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what is your cpu temp

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dont run it

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is it silent

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yea

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good

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it works

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and it goes back up?

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is your laptop silent

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i thought it would

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i think you are just bad at telling

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if it works or not

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anyways it does work

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they are

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aint no way on earth

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you have a cpu fan

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that isnt pwm

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anyways

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it does work

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eh same thing

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wait

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ah

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yes of course

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but to make it save

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we need to do one more thing after

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i think theyre 2 different profiles

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ah wait

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theyre 2 different fans?

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anyways you can mess around with that it works

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anything to not write a service

ocWPJyD.png
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let me see if the AUR did it for you

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what a service is

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is basically

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it runs a program for you

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on boot or whatever

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packages should install them for you

sharp plaza
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but if it doesnt

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you'll have to do that

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wait

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go on this page

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click view PKGBUILD

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and take a screenshot

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it doesnt work for me

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it doesnt load

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fantastic news

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it doesnt

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lmao

sharp plaza
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from their github

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dont rebot

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reboot

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after you do it

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we will uninstall your other kernels

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i think it will kill your fan control

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but you will reboot anyway

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so what difference does it make

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do pacman -Q | grep linux

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do cd .config

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you done that?

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do cd ~/.config

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~ means /home/yourusername

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did the cd work

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do mkdir autostart

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yes

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they are not imaginatively made

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i had to google it myself

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it seems like an old feature

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noone actually uses it anymore

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but it seems to still work

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services

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that will be difficult for you

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and i don't use systemd

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did the mkdir work

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you'll know the issue if it happens

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the copy?

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nice

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do pacman -Q | grep linux

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-Q means list all installed packages

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i think it means

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query

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show me it

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do sudo pacman -R linux-zen linux-lts linux-hardened

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then do sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

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then reboot and y ou're done

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seems like you can fix that tomorrow

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program works anyway

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no problem

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you already compiled the app

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ah

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you didnt

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you can

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what i would do

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if i were you

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let me

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find that pkgbuild

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it wouldnt

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that would be the easiest

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with the way im showing you

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can you take a screenshot

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of the mcontrolcenter-git pkgbuild

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doesnt load for me

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nevermind

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it loaded

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basically you take this PKGBUILD

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you change the source line to your github

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and you are done

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the url too

9dCXlVB.png
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no

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pacman is for official packages on arch repos

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paru is for AUR packages (non official)

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yours wont be on either

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you will manually run makepkg -si

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of course after removing the installed package from paru

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sure however it is somewhat a waste of time

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you would be better off

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finding a bug that needs fixing

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and contributing back upstream

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it paves the road for the next soul with your issue

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easier to work with upstream

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theyre still active

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last commit was a few days ago

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like

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find the issue

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and then give them the code fix

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so they can put it

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for everyone

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where?

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oh

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it doesnt need to

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they just say that

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you remember

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that dkms one?

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that would've worked on zen if the PKGBUILD was fixed

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it lets it work for any kernel

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let me just link what i said

sharp plaza
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thats what it does

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yes

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but the PKGBUILD for it

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wasnt written probably

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if you fixed it

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it wouldve worked

sharp plaza
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i mean

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not probably

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it had a bug

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the package is labelled DKMS

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whoever maded it

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intended for that to work

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but they didnt write it properly

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someone commented this

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because they tried it and it didnt work

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you would need to fix that

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which is relatively easy

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i think it compiles it right

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but it doesnt install it to your system

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properly

sharp plaza
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you can see

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it misses msi-ec.conf

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you can use the regular

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msi-ec-git as a reference

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to fix msi-ec-dkms-git

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hahahaha

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this is the entire fix bro

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thats all he needed to do

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GMT

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wait maybe the UK switched to BST now

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let me check

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ah its BST

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12:20am

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nice

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the PKGBUILD Is easy to fix

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very easy

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not on their github

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its nothing to do with them

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you should fix it

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packaging is purely an arch problem

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no

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PKGBUILD is a bash script

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it has functions in it

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there is a tool on arch called "makepkg"

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makepkg runs the PKGBUILD

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it will take those variables that were defined

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it will run pkgver

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it will run package

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and package is how it actually installs it to your system

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you understand?

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it does install it

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well

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it specifies

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how to install it

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it specifies the functions

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then makepkg runs it

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like if you had a lua script

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then you run lua myscript.lua

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myscript isnt actually running anything

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its the lua interpreter

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but obviously its running the stuff in myscript

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or with c++ code

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the file itself does nothing

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but the compiler compiles it and makes it do stuff

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but the file itself told it what to do

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yrse

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yes

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yes

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like all code

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basically

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the dude is inactive

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so when you fix it

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you click submit request

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then it will say request to take over package

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but it doesnt load for me

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cos its slow asf for some reason

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then you take it over

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and you can fix it

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if he isnt afk he'll deny it

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and you can give the fix to him

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and he will update it

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yea its been ass all day

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for most people

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someones hammering servers somewhere

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could just be someone being ass at management

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or could be that

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they dont have the anti bot stuff that much

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so its easier to bot

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i didnt add it

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its in the other

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pkgbuild

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thats why i said

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thats all he needed to do

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is literally copy the other one

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to fix it lmao

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the other one is not DKMS

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the one you have right now (that works) isn't

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the one you're gonna fix is dkms

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but the guys a bit slow

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ye

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so it works on all

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yes

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there is no default on AUR

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there is no moderation by default

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only if people report packages does it get moderated

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you can literally upload anything

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the AUR is unofficial

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on the AUR?

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for dkms and non dkms?

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for dkms you need to compile it

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for non dkms you dont

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so people who use regular linux dont need to compile

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hence why they are different

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since msot people use regular linux

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sure, cya

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you are

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i think

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its -git

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the non dkms version here

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is kinda just ass

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but its the only one that works right now

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basically

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the PKGBUILD can do anything

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but people have common naming conventions

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-git means you compile it

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so if you see -git

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you basically can assume

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you are compiling it

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its fine

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arch is just the start

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there are much deeper layers

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i mean your fan control does work

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you just need to change it

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doesnt it work right now

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but just doesnt persist across restarts

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yea thats fine then

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that's something that should be relatively easy to fix

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the program really doesnt seem that big either

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mcontrolcenter that is

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should be easy for you to read it

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for the PKGBUILD?

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or for their saving issue

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c++ is my goat

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yea

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just make sure you dont mention the PKGBUILD

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on their github

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chances are you will need to make sure the PKGBUILD is right

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because they dont support arch

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wait until you find out about std::println("hi");

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cya

sharp plaza
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i dont think their app does much

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its msi-ec that does the work

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id make it terminal only to begin wtih

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with

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you won't in future

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less moving parts less stuff that breaks

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more reliable

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with QT you'd end up having to learn msi-ec, c++ and QT simultaneously

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and QT is quite heavy

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on c++ it is different

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your build system is harder to make

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how are you going to interop between python and c++

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(has never used c++)

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upto you

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for std::cout lol

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or well just cout

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the hardest part is using libraries

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well upto you

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that's quite a large task

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i guess you'll see the rabbit hole when you get there

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you have a bar?

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waybar is the easiest option

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for an app launcher sherlock-launcher looks best ootb

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rofi is a bit ass to customise

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if recommend rofi-wayland over rofi

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docs arent the greatest

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and it begins looking ass

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sherlock launcher looks like that by default

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you can remove it

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i just havent been bothered to

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yes

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most of any

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its on the aur as sherlock-launcher-bin i think

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not -git

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but yes

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yes

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it doesnt make sense

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if its both

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if you want the latest git release

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there is sherlock-launcher-git

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but dont see why you would

sharp plaza
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i just used drun]

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drun

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you need to create it on the wiki i think

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you need to set xdg defaults or just use file open in vscode

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but i just use neovim

sharp plaza
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what is this

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windows key + c to kill app by default

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on hyprland you should be using hyprshot

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or i can give you my script which is better

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uses satty instead of slurp

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i don't use waybar couldn't tell you

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not sure what xml has to do with waybar

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never used xml when i used to use waybar

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satty is like

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it lets you annotate screenshots

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slurp is the same but it only crops

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just use hyprshot for now

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i like satty

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it looks like this

SZjSBzh.png
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you can see on the top and bottom

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are you sure you're meant to be editing the xml file?

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hmm seems like it updated

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the config looks different to when i used it

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you installed waybar by pacman -S waybar?

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how dont you know

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i dont think that is normal

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where did you get the config from

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well that's why it doesn't work

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because you just took a random config

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yes but its random

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waybar doesnt have

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xml

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normally

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whoever made the config added it

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yes but where did you

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get the config file

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is where i'm asking

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that is default?

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what directory is it in

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so yours looks like this?

fsIrnus.png
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yes

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it does

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anyways

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i would recommend just stealing one

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from their wiki

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you can remove the "features"

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maybe my old config still exists in my git repo\

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let me see

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yea cos u didnt change it right

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its like saying

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"I removed ONE line of code and the entire program broke"

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obviously if you aint remove it right it breaks it all

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brother

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if you changed it right

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it wouldnt be broken

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clearly something else is also needed

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i will see if i can find mine

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dan i really havent used a bar in so long