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empty girder May 16, 2025, 2:19 PM

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Booted from usb with arch installation, uses iwctl to connect to wifi, SSID and passphrase entered system hangs, cmd "station wlan0 show" displays wlan0 connecting but never finding ip address and asking if DHCP client is configured. I have no option but wifi as im using a surface laptop 1.

inner sigil May 16, 2025, 4:06 PM

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@empty girder how old is the iso?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 4:07 PM

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brand new made today

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according to the install location and file name

inner sigil May 16, 2025, 4:10 PM

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@empty girder laptop or desktop?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 4:10 PM

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laptop

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it is a surface laptop 1

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im aware of the additional kernels necessary for this hardware once installed but ive never had problems connect during installation

inner sigil May 16, 2025, 4:14 PM

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@empty girder is secureboot/fastboot on?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 4:14 PM

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no

inner sigil May 16, 2025, 4:14 PM

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@empty girder can you show every bios setting please

empty girder May 16, 2025, 4:15 PM

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one moment

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inner sigil May 16, 2025, 4:17 PM

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turn off tpm

empty girder May 16, 2025, 4:18 PM

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turned off booting with usb now

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"station wlan0 show" still displays "no ip addresses" and "is DHCP client configured?"

inner sigil May 16, 2025, 4:27 PM

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empty girder "station wlan0 show" still displays "no ip addresses" and "is DHCP client config...

in the iso?

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photo please

empty girder May 16, 2025, 4:27 PM

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grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:04 PM

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is your wifi card up?

i am not really experienced but that came to my mind

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post the output of ip link

inner sigil May 16, 2025, 5:05 PM

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@empty girder

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:13 PM

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sorry checking

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grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:16 PM

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how about rfkill

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:16 PM

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rfkill wlan0?

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:17 PM

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no just rfkill

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:17 PM

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grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:17 PM

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that interesting

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have you done everything like here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Iwd#iwctl

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:19 PM

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yup

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i can go through the steps and send results

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but thats how i got to forever connecting with no ip addresses

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ive tried the wsc attempt too but no luck there

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:20 PM

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empty girder i can go through the steps and send results

if you don't mind

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:20 PM

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sure

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needed to restart it cause "Operation already in progress" from the forever connecting

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:24 PM

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this your first time rebooting or you tried it already?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:24 PM

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tried many times

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different iso sources too

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:25 PM

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i suppose you verified the signature

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:25 PM

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grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:25 PM

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but theres no way youd get unlucky that many times

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:25 PM

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i believe so

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the terminal when checking signature gave me the thumbs up following arch wiki

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:27 PM

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I mean it should show you something signature good by pierre schmitz

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but it not that for sure

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:28 PM

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i guess ill try another source and see if i really have been that unlucky

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:29 PM

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you downloading it through http window or? try through a torrent client

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:29 PM

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http window

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im unfamiliar with torrent clients

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and im etching it on with gnome built in tool

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:31 PM

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if you dont want through torrent client try the https

inner sigil May 16, 2025, 5:31 PM

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@empty girder

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:32 PM

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yes

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:32 PM

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and maybe gnome tool has something to do with it
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/USB_flash_installation_medium
so try through cli

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but I just have a feel that it is none of those and that issue is somewhere else

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:33 PM

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grim solar and maybe gnome tool has something to do with it https://wiki.archlinux.org/titl...

would balena be a good alternative?

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:34 PM

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i used it before, you can give it a try

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but through cli is simple and effective

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:35 PM

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alright, ill use cli

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:39 PM

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let me know how it goes

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:42 PM

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struggling to find an iso with good signature 3 failed

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:43 PM

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when verifying?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:44 PM

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yes

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:46 PM

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can you post a picture

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:47 PM

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im on arch so using the "pacman-key" cmd instead of gpg

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:52 PM

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i am not entirely sure what is going on, it should look like this:

 ❯ pacman-key -v archlinux-2025.05.01-x86_64.iso.sig
==> Checking archlinux-2025.05.01-x86_64.iso.sig... (detached)
gpg: Signature made Thu 01 May 2025 12:12:01 PM CEST
gpg:                using EDDSA key 3E80CA1A8B89F69CBA57D98A76A5EF9054449A5C
gpg:                issuer "[email protected]"
gpg: Note: trustdb not writable
gpg: Good signature from "Pierre Schmitz <[email protected]>" [full]
gpg:                 aka "Pierre Schmitz <[email protected]>" [unknown]

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:52 PM

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got one

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grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:53 PM

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nice

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you haven't got it till now?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:53 PM

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I have in the past but this time has been a lot of fails

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:54 PM

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i gotta workout but ill try to help as much as I can through phone

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:54 PM

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I was previously in america and now europe i dont know if the servers are different enough

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cheers

grim solar May 16, 2025, 5:55 PM

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try now and let me know what happens

empty girder May 16, 2025, 5:55 PM

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gotta learn quick how to etch with cat instead of gnome gui

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seems simple enough

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:00 PM

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no worries

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:01 PM

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i was wrong ofc it was not simple enough, i scurried to gnome gui and have etched and am booting the usb hoping fingers crossed is enough for wifi to work

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damn, still the same

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:02 PM

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yeah i figured

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wanna try some other tools?

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like through network manager

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:03 PM

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yup

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ooh

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difficult

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:04 PM

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see if it is installed in live env first

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:04 PM

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what do you mean?

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:05 PM

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if there is even network manager in live environment

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:05 PM

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oh i saw something about a network manager

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NetworkConfigurationEnabled: disabled

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:06 PM

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like pacman -Qs network

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:07 PM

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2 warnings saying database file for core and extra do not exist

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:07 PM

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how about systemctl status NetworkManager.service

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does it exist

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:08 PM

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no

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could not be found

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:11 PM

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lscpi -k

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see what is assigned for your wifi card

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you can also try to connect again

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and stop it and see in journal what is going on

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that might give us kore leads

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:13 PM

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ok, I assume my wifi card is the Ethernet controller, i found it

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just put here for note

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the wifi card never stops connecting once attempted, ill try to stop it

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where would i find the journal

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:18 PM

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its journalctl

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:18 PM

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ive stopped the wifi card btw

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:18 PM

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i jusr dont know the flag on top of my head

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:18 PM

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oh thats a lot

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:18 PM

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you might want to find that the flag on the internet that shows only the last lines of a journal

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:19 PM

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ah ok

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:19 PM

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or open it in batch format then go all the way down

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i recommend you opening a ticket on arch forum though

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they are far more experienced than us

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youd get help really fast

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:22 PM

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hmm ok

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:22 PM

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you dual booting?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:22 PM

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no on that device no

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:22 PM

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im willing to try still though

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:22 PM

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yeah im glad to see im atleast not missing something

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:23 PM

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just try to dig something up in the journal

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:25 PM

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a lot of "Failed to start Refresh Pacman mirrorlst with Reflector"

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an audit

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:27 PM

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rly?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:27 PM

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grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:28 PM

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open /etc/pacma.d/mirrorlist

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i believe

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pacman.d

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:29 PM

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open as in?

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:29 PM

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which you want

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you use vim?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:30 PM

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i can get by on vim

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:30 PM

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open it with vim and see if there are mirror

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s

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:31 PM

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yes every country it looks like

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:31 PM

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it should say there when the list was generated or something

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:32 PM

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2025-03-11

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:34 PM

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nvm i am tripping

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the reflector thing in journal is normal

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because you dont have internet access

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facepalm

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systemctl status iwd

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:35 PM

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loaded and active

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grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:38 PM

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try again to connecting to wifi

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and stop the process

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:38 PM

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operation already in progress

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:38 PM

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and go journal -n 100

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to see last 100 lines in journal

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see if it says anything there

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:44 PM

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gastroliths is the network

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:50 PM

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i really have a hard time believing that it has anything to do with arch installation

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when you were booting into a live environment

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did you see anything out of ordinary in boot msgs

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:51 PM

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no everything is fine when booting normally

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ill fiddly with the bios and see if i can get anything to show

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:52 PM

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you can try systemctl restart iwd.service

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in case it is not starting correctly for whatever reason

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you have secure boot on?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:53 PM

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no it shouldnt be

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:54 PM

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i don't think you would be able to boot either way if it was on

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UEFI 64?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:54 PM

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not sure

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ive just done something

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ive enable NetworkConfigurationEnabled

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for iwd

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maybe if i can give it the ip i can get wifi and just get it installed

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:55 PM

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wdym

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:56 PM

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grim solar UEFI 64?

this is the step before the connect to the network

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:56 PM

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oh then yes

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its the x86-64

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im gonna get in the bios

grim solar May 16, 2025, 6:57 PM

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https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Installation_guide#Verify_the_boot_mode

this

empty girder May 16, 2025, 6:58 PM

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oh ok ill check that when back in iso

grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:00 PM

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you sure it might not be something wrong with the router?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:00 PM

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not particularly

grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:00 PM

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maybe try installing ubuntu and see if things work

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:00 PM

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but im not sure what to change on the router for the linux

grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:00 PM

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mainly wifi

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:00 PM

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oh well i have a version of linux running on the laptop and that has internet no problem

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just the iso thing

grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:01 PM

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same laptop?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:01 PM

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yup

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64 eufi btw

grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:03 PM

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so you are dual booting?

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i mean it doesn't make a difference if you do or no for this issue

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:03 PM

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no the intention is to replace with arch

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and theres only one operating system installed right now

grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:04 PM

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when you ping archlinux.org no internet?

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:04 PM

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in iso yeah

grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:07 PM

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empty girder

i do not understand hwo can an ethernet controller be for wifi

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give me the whole output of lspci

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:08 PM

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well i dont have an ethernet port so idk what else itd be up to

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ok one moment

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grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:16 PM

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would you mind opening the other linux

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and running lspci there

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the Ethenet controller is fishy

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it might be misidentified

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:17 PM

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ok

grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:17 PM

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it should be Network Controller

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but again when you run ip link you have wlan0

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which is confusing really

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:19 PM

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grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:19 PM

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how about lspci -k

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to check the kernel drivers foe it

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this is most interestinf

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you owe me the solution when you find it haha

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:20 PM

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honestly thinkin of finding the laptop original os rebuilding then going to install arch and see if that magically fixes it

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for now its late so i think im gonna set it up attempting to connect and post something on the forums

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if this doesnt get closed by the time i fix it ill say what i did

grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:22 PM

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forum is your best friend

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:22 PM

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cause its worked before so itll work again

grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:23 PM

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sorry of not being of help but we tried

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:23 PM

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no worries

grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:23 PM

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send me the link of the form ticket when you create one

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:23 PM

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for sure

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funny thing is once i get arch working i intend to do hyprland ricing so no end of troubleshooting for me

grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:25 PM

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ahhahahahah

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you have a long way to go my friend : )

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the issue that you are dealing with here

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is 1/1 something obvious that we are missing

empty girder May 16, 2025, 7:39 PM

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https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=305626

grim solar May 16, 2025, 7:47 PM

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looking good

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looking forward to seeing the answer

grim solar May 17, 2025, 6:45 AM

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figured it out @empty girder ?

empty girder May 17, 2025, 10:52 AM

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I have not, I’m attempting to see if downloading windows, letting it fix all the surface laptop firmware then going back for an arch installation again

empty girder May 17, 2025, 12:35 PM

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grim solar is 1/1 something obvious that we are missing

you were right

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so right

empty girder May 17, 2025, 12:36 PM

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grim solar you owe me the solution when you find it haha

I have finally fixed it

empty girder May 17, 2025, 12:36 PM

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grim solar you sure it might not be something wrong with the router?

it was in fact something to do with the goddamn router

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I simply reset it, something that I thought had happened during, but this time it works

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I am finally installing arch, after 2 days of agony

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idk how to close this

empty girder May 17, 2025, 12:55 PM

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empty girder idk how to close this

This thread I mean

grim solar May 17, 2025, 2:05 PM

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... solved

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