Fucked up my installation

[maiden wren]

does not seem that fucked up

thats just a tty

[sand forge]

Yes but what now

I tried doing the auto archinstaller shit

[maiden wren]

this is a terminal

go ahead, install stuff

[sand forge]

But got an error mid way and decided to restart my pc

[sand forge]

Yes but install what

I tried installing archinstall

But didn’t work

I would go on windows to search some shit but can’t even do that anymore

My windows os is just gone

[maiden wren]

why'd you need to install an arch installer on an installed arch

and, more important, do you still have your archiso usb on you

[sand forge]

What

Yes

[maiden wren]

i have a feeling you forgot the wifi drivers

anyway

[sand forge]

No the wifi is working just fine

Did the iwctl or whatever it was shit

But like how do I get the desktop version

[maiden wren]

what you have on your screen right now is a perfectly fine, usable arch linux installation. you just did not install any desktops on it

[sand forge]

And again

How am I suppsoed to do that

My archinstall command shouldve done that for me

But errors are a thing

So like what now

Thats my question

[maiden wren]

thats why you should never use archinstall

anyway

[sand forge]

Buddy

[maiden wren]

did you happen to set up a user

[sand forge]

My friend told me to use it

Well

During the installation yes

But then something happened and I have no user

And I’m just using root as an user

[maiden wren]

can you su into it? su <username>

omit the brackets

[sand forge]

I’m confused

[solar wigeon]

@sand forge are you in root now?

[sand forge]

Yes

[maiden wren]

if im root and i have a user called gravitos, i can su into this user by going su gravitos

[sand forge]

No

I tried doing that and it doesn’t work

Doesn’t say anything

Just skips a line

[solar wigeon]

cut -d: -f1 /etc/passwd

[maiden wren]

i just need to check if your user exists or if we need to create it according to this

[solar wigeon]

do you see your username in there?

[sand forge]

I already did that

[maiden wren]

yeah thats definitely a way to do that

[sand forge]

The only user I got was nobody

[maiden wren]

thanks tofu

[sand forge]

Actually wait let me send you the whole lidt

[maiden wren]

m-kay, so we need to make a user

[sand forge]

Drop the quick command

I think chatgpt sent me somthing with useradd a while ago

useradd -m -G wheel -s /bin/bash yourusername
passwd yourusername

Yeah this

[maiden wren]

useradd -m -G video,wheel,input,uinput -s /bin/bash yourusername to create a user and passwd yourusername to give it a password

[maiden wren]

once in a while it isn't a complete fuck up

[sand forge]

Thats why it wss giving me the options

Switching to deepseek ong

[solar wigeon]

don't

[maiden wren]

still not the most reliable

[solar wigeon]

arch wiki > ai

[maiden wren]

would you trust your life to a glorified autocomplete bot

[sand forge]

Group uinput doesn’t exist

[sand forge]

Ofc not

[maiden wren]

remove it from the list

[solar wigeon]

then you will need to install a de/wm

[maiden wren]

well LLMs (or "AI" as you kids call it) are just glorified autocomplete

[solar wigeon]

I would recommended plasma for a de

[sand forge]

I’m crashinf out

User g4nn1 already exists

[maiden wren]

k, whatever, it worked

[solar wigeon]

passwd g4nn1

change the password

[sand forge]

Done

[solar wigeon]

su g4nn1

[sand forge]

Yeah but it still pisses me off

failed to execute /binbash

Tf

[maiden wren]

forgor a slash

its /bin/bash

[sand forge]

I know

But there is no slashes in the command

Su g4nn1

[maiden wren]

as root, chsh -s /bin/bash g4nn1

[solar wigeon]

no caps

[sand forge]

Yeah ofc don’t mind the caps

Ok done

it says I’m in g4nn@archlinux

So I’m assuming it succeeded

[solar wigeon]

now install a de/wm

[sand forge]

Perms denied

[solar wigeon]

with sudo?

[sand forge]

I’m trting now with sudo

[solar wigeon]

sudo -lU g4nn1

[maiden wren]

pick yourself a desktop

[sand forge]

g4nn1 is not in the sudoers file

Isnt that just the linux type

Like gnome and shit

Or am I weong

Note i don’t know dhit ab linux

[maiden wren]

yeah basically

this is the gui that you're going to stick with

[sand forge]

I can change it later right?

[solar wigeon]

I recommended kde/plasma

[maiden wren]

yeah

[sand forge]

Then it doesn’t matter

Choose which one you think is best

[maiden wren]

you still need to pick something to install

[sand forge]

.

[maiden wren]

also can you like exit your user for a sec

[solar wigeon]

plasma

[maiden wren]

we need to edit the sudoers file so wheel is allowed to sudo

[sand forge]

Plasma it is

[sand forge]

Fair wnough

Tell me how mr smart guy

[solar wigeon]

plasma-desktop

[maiden wren]

you should get to where it says root@archlinux

with exit

[sand forge]

Yeah I’m on

[solar wigeon]

@sand forge as root visudo

[sand forge]

Root

[maiden wren]

k, run visudo

[sand forge]

No editor found

[maiden wren]

great, install micro

[solar wigeon]

pacman -S nano

[maiden wren]

micro is more user friendly because it uses conventional GUI text editor keybinds

[sand forge]

Error ofc

[solar wigeon]

instead of nano?

[maiden wren]

what kind of error

404?

[solar wigeon]

@maiden wren photo please

[sand forge]

Find out for yourself

[maiden wren]

no internet

[sand forge]

Fuck

[maiden wren]

called it.

[solar wigeon]

ping -c3 archlinux.org

[maiden wren]

reboot to the live usb

[sand forge]

Loke go in the boot menu?

[solar wigeon]

hold on

iwctl

station wlan0 connect "name here"

[maiden wren]

this is micro

[sand forge]

I did thag before I’m pretty sure

[maiden wren]

you probably did that before installation

the installed system does not know you did that so you need to do that again

[sand forge]

Good point

[maiden wren]

if iwctl does not open, reboot to the live usb

[solar wigeon]

@sand forge can you enter iwctl?

[sand forge]

One sec

I did a restart and it says recovering journal

Ok wtf

[maiden wren]

yeah thats what happens when the power cuts off unexpectedly

the fu

[sand forge]

Yep

Thats what I’m saying

I think I fucked it up even more

[maiden wren]

well that tells me one bad thing: you have an nvidia gpu

[sand forge]

“Bad thing”

[maiden wren]

these usually suck to get running under linux

[sand forge]

Ok restEted again

Its working

[sand forge]

Fucking amd glazers

[solar wigeon]

how old is the gpu?

[sand forge]

Rtx 4060

[maiden wren]

no, thats entirely and completely nvidia's fault

[maiden wren]

should've went with proprietary drivers when given the option

[sand forge]

Wouldnt quite say that

[sand forge]

I did

[solar wigeon]

we have no proof that you did that

[maiden wren]

in fact we have proof against that

[sand forge]

You got a point

[sand forge]

Shit

Imma bomb whoever made the linux instlallation shit

Anyways

Iwctl

Doesn’t work

[maiden wren]

k, reboot to the live usb

[sand forge]

Command found

[solar wigeon]

anthraxx?

[sand forge]

Prolly

[maiden wren]

how new are you at this? have you ever used a linux device before?

[sand forge]

No

I’m like new new

First linux installation

[maiden wren]

starting with arch is a bad idea

[sand forge]

Sonce I used a macbook

[sand forge]

I knew very well

[maiden wren]

exactly because of, well, everything we're doing right now

[sand forge]

Either go big or go home

[solar wigeon]

@sand forge https://pop.system76.com/

[sand forge]

So the issue is

I don’t have a secondsry pc

[solar wigeon]

pop is designed for new people like you

[maiden wren]

do you have an android phone?

[sand forge]

And the only way to get access to internet is my boy arch

[sand forge]

Iphone

[maiden wren]

well that sucks

[sand forge]

I have an old macbook

The only issue being the screen is broken

And the usb c to hdmi doesn’t work

[maiden wren]

that should do actually, as long as you can download an iso on it

in some way

[sand forge]

Nvm

Its at my friend’s house

But why doesn’t iwctl work

[maiden wren]

because you did not install it

[sand forge]

Bullshit

[maiden wren]

there's no iwctl to work

[sand forge]

What was ur other

Option

[maiden wren]

besides networkmanager would be a far better pick for a newbie like you

reboot to iso

[sand forge]

You mean to the usb stick

[maiden wren]

yeah

[sand forge]

Boot manager you mean

Cuz if I reboot it just gives me the teo options

[maiden wren]

i mean you should get back to the installer

[sand forge]

Fuck

[maiden wren]

in whichever way necessary for your device

do NOT run archinstall

[sand forge]

I think I might have an issue

This is whats currently on my usb stick

If I boot into it

[maiden wren]

that looks very systemd-boot

kinda like an installed system

[sand forge]

What does that mean

Yeah so im fucked

[maiden wren]

did you accidentally overwrite your usb

[sand forge]

Prolly mixed the partitions up

In which case

Thats why I got an error

Since the usb stick is 4 gigs

[maiden wren]

thats why you should not use arch as a newbie

[sand forge]

Imma just ask my friend for a new windows iso

[maiden wren]

could go for fedora

[solar wigeon]

or pop-os

[sand forge]

Or hust stick to windows

[maiden wren]

or endeavouros if you're that focused on getting arch

[sand forge]

Ok so yeah

[maiden wren]

endeavouros is basically arch with a smoothbrain installer

[sand forge]

If I boot into my ssd or usb its giving me the same

Screen

[maiden wren]

is there any kind of computer with a usb port around

[sand forge]

Nope

Best I can do is my tv 😭

[maiden wren]

android powered smart tv, steam deck, old windows 8 tablet, anything

[maiden wren]

is it android?

[sand forge]

Well yes

Samsung

[maiden wren]

thats great

get etchdroid on it

[sand forge]

Imma do that tommorow

[maiden wren]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.depau.etchdroid&hl=ru

[sand forge]

And go eep for today

[maiden wren]

it will let you write a new iso onto the usb

[maiden wren]

gn, ping me when you're ready for round 2

and queue something like fedora to download on your tv when you sleep

[sand forge]

We have the same time right

Its 9 pl to you

Pm

For*

[maiden wren]

https://fedoraproject.org/spins/kde/download/

[sand forge]

On my tv?

What are you saying

[maiden wren]

nah its 1:20am for me

[solar wigeon]

https://pop.system76.com/

[sand forge]

Shit yeah

[maiden wren]

yes, on your tv

[sand forge]

Why tf

[maiden wren]

you need something to write onto your usb stick

[sand forge]

So I need to install a new whole os for that

[maiden wren]

fedora, mint, popos, anything goes

[sand forge]

Ohhhh

You mean the .iso file

[maiden wren]

no, you just need to download it onto the tv

yeah

[sand forge]

Imma just so windows

Easiest installation

[maiden wren]

windows will not work, thats like the one thing that does not

[sand forge]

What

Why tf

[maiden wren]

microsoft cant make isos for shit

dw

[sand forge]

Is that a trick to not make me go for windows

Windows hater

[maiden wren]

if you really want to get to windows, we can get you there once you get linux running

[sand forge]

Shouldve mever downloaded arch in the fiest place

Alright whatever good night

[maiden wren]

no, you actually just can not write a windows iso and expect it to work

[maiden wren]

should've picked something easier to use. like mint or fedora. or pop os

[sand forge]

I wanted arch cuz arch looks cool

Shouldve read the installation guide to realise its a death wish

[maiden wren]

the only real difference between arch and anything else is the name in /etc/os-release and a funny logo in the fetches

and the package manager, i guess, but endeavour covers that for ya

[sand forge]

So no difference basically

[maiden wren]

yeah

[sand forge]

Then my friend just trolled me

[maiden wren]

or your friend does not know shit about how linux works

[sand forge]

She installed it

Thats why I trusted her

She has gnome running on it

[maiden wren]

gnome's kinda cool, it tries to stay away from the "traditional" user experience that windows and kde have

[sand forge]

Isnt the whole point of linux to get away from windows and to be fully debloayed

[maiden wren]

nope

the whole point of linux is its free and open source

[solar wigeon]

it can

[maiden wren]

you can do that but its optional

[sand forge]

Whoever uses linux is either a femboy or owns a bad pc

Or does seever

Servers

[maiden wren]

or hates windows

[sand forge]

I see no other purpose of installing it

That too

[sand forge]

Boohoo you can’t spend 10$ on a windows key

[maiden wren]

Gaben - you know, the guy who owns Valve, the company that made Steam - hates Windows. and his portable console, the Steam Deck, runs a spin of arch

[maiden wren]

actually , i own two legitimate windows 10 pro licenses

one of them's on my tablet

[sand forge]

Then why not use them

Tablet?

Are we deadass

[maiden wren]

its not a conventional tablet

[sand forge]

I cracked my windows key lol

[maiden wren]

i got both of mine legitimately for free, my windows just stole itself, twice, without any actions on my end

[sand forge]

Happens

[solar wigeon]

I own a win98 key

[sand forge]

Alr imma fr go to sleep now

[maiden wren]

gn

[sand forge]

I had a pc with win98 installed

Cool shit

[solar wigeon]

based

[maiden wren]

i think the earliest version of windows i used when it was still supported was windows xp

i did poke windows 98 and windows 3.1 but im too young to see the times when these two used to shine

[maiden wren]

actually some guy sent a comment that he could use etchdroid to flash windows onto a usb, dated october '24. might be worth a try

[sand forge]

I’d just rather go safely

I see no point in risking it

Also you’re russian right

@maiden wren

Yeah shit I donr think I can install apks on my tv

[maiden wren]

yeah

[sand forge]

Yeah no need anymore

I got my mac running

[maiden wren]

good

[sand forge]

Found my backup hdmi

[maiden wren]

you will need a working linux environment to make a windows installer usb

i dont think they make woeusb for mac

[sand forge]

I just need to put the iso in the usb stick right?

[maiden wren]

flash it with rufus or balena etcher

[sand forge]

Oh fuckkk

[maiden wren]

or install ventoy and then put the iso on the usb stick

[sand forge]

Imma use rufus

I used rufus for arch

[maiden wren]

i dont think rufus is available on mac so use balena etcher if it isn't

[sand forge]

Hol on

One issue

[sand forge]

Exactly

[maiden wren]

yeah use this thing

[sand forge]

I am one sec

[maiden wren]

what are you flashing anyway

[sand forge]

Fedora kfe

Kde

[maiden wren]

yeah thats good

[sand forge]

I tried installing fedora on my mac one time

Only to realise it doesn’t support usbc displays

Really weird

[maiden wren]

it probably does but you need to install a driver

or you have one of those macs that dont support it yet

[sand forge]

Hol on let me show you

Also it keeps saying starting

And I mean balena etcher

@maiden wren

[maiden wren]

huh.

does your mac have dd

[sand forge]

dd?

Is it a terminal command

[maiden wren]

yeah

[sand forge]

I tried typing it in the terminal

And it just skips a line and doesn’t show the user anymore

Hol on do you want me to share screen

[maiden wren]

k, ctrl-c out of it

[sand forge]

So thats how you do it

[maiden wren]

yeah

good

show me your lsblk

[maiden wren]

cant really watch it rn, im on a lecture

[sand forge]

Another command?

[maiden wren]

yeah

[sand forge]

If it is it doesn’t work

Cmd not found

[maiden wren]

o-kay

[sand forge]

So now what

Cuz balena fetcher is broken

Arent there any other alternatives

[maiden wren]

oh yeah right, mac os uses diskutil

diskutil list

[maiden wren]

dd is one of them

[sand forge]

Can’t I js show you my disk utility

[maiden wren]

i need the /dev/ identifier of your usb

or, rather, you need it to use with dd

idk if your disk utility shows it

[sand forge]

Dev/disk9

[maiden wren]

you sure?

[sand forge]

Disk8 apologies

[maiden wren]

using dd on it will nuke everything that is on that drive

[sand forge]

It says 3.9gb so I assume thats it

[maiden wren]

if this is wrong drive, you will brick your mac as well

show me your diskutil list

[sand forge]

I’d have to download discord

Nvm let me js go on web

[maiden wren]

external physical, yeah that looks like it

dd if=/path/to/your/fedora.iso of=/dev/disk8 bs=4M status=progress

if you know how to run this with elevated privileges, do that

operating systems usually dont just let you directly poke a drive

[sand forge]

dd if=/Users/g4nn1/Downloads/Fedora-KDE-Live-x86_64-41-1.4.iso of=/dev/disk8 bs=4M status=progress

[maiden wren]

yeah

[sand forge]

resource busy

[maiden wren]

thats probably why etcher is stuck

uhhhhhhh

[sand forge]

why tf would it be busy

wait

I had disk managment open

[maiden wren]

that could be it

[sand forge]

nvm still busy

[maiden wren]

huh

is it mounted

[sand forge]

ye[

[maiden wren]

i think on mac os mounted drives show up on desktop

unmount it

[sand forge]

done

[maiden wren]

try dd again

[sand forge]

its working

[maiden wren]

good

let it finish and you have a fedora usb

[sand forge]

amazing

also do i need to turn secure boot off or on

[maiden wren]

it should be off during install

you can set it up later, if you want

[sand forge]

alr

[maiden wren]

the point of secure boot is not letting the user boot unknown stuff on their pc

and since you did not teach your laptop what a fedora is, its unknown stuff

[sand forge]

thats why it wouldnt let me install arch before

[sand forge]

great way of explaining it

[maiden wren]

iirc on linux this teaching is done with sbctl

.aw secure boot

[swift wharf]

Secure Boot

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Secure_Boot

[maiden wren]

that will guide you, if you want to enable secure boot

[sand forge]

why do you even know all this stuff

[sand forge]

I know how to enable/disable it

[maiden wren]

no, that page tells you how to teach your laptop that the stuff directly on it is not "unknown", among other relevant things

[maiden wren]

i've been using linux for quite a while, and daily driving arch in particular for the last three years

[sand forge]

great way of spending your time

[sand forge]

shit mb

[maiden wren]

and an even better way of getting use out of old hardware

[sand forge]

rich people stuff

i broke all my old hardware

for exmaple my macnook screen

[maiden wren]

if only

[sand forge]

I even had a shitty android device

[maiden wren]

i have a 30$ thinkpad with no screen at all

[sand forge]

dad threw it in water

and there it went

then just switched to iphone and never switched back

[maiden wren]

i think my mom once drowned her pre-android samsung. this idiot is still in my bag

[sand forge]

lol

[maiden wren]

still working

[sand forge]

my dad threw my laptop on the ground

and there goes all my hardware

I still have my old iphone X

which I could use as storage/backup

also why tf is this taking so long

2.5 gigs

[maiden wren]

you're writing an image of fedora onto a usb stick byte by byte in 4 megabyte increments

it takes a while

go make a cup of tea or something

[sand forge]

ok done

[sand forge]

imma do it after i install linux

do I just connect the stick to my main pc now

[maiden wren]

yeah

[sand forge]

Start fedora

And do I let it do its thing now

Ok it started

[maiden wren]

its a live iso, you can poke it around before install or choose the install option wherever it is

[sand forge]

Alr finally

Tysm dude

Wouldve taken me extra hours if it haven’t been for you

Now that I think about it I wanna install linux on my mac since I host a mc server once in a while

[maiden wren]

dual booting is probably an option but you'd have to find someone else for that

i have no idea how to dualboot a mac

... solved

[swift wharf]

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[sand forge]

Fair

Also do I need to keep my usb plugged in

Cuz I just did and desktop went black

[maiden wren]

you were in the live iso

you need to open the installer (its somewhere in there, maybe in the start menu?)

and install the system

that would let you use it without the usb

also live iso resets any time you reboot it, installed system does not

[sand forge]

It happene after I did that

Either way I got it fixed

[sand forge]

@maiden wren

dd should work for windows too right

[maiden wren]

no

[sand forge]

Fuck

[maiden wren]

for windows you should use woeusb

https://github.com/WoeUSB/WoeUSB-ng

do note that if you install windows on top of fedora, it will either wipe fedora off or make it unbootable

[sand forge]

My fedora is gone

I reqrote my ssd by accident

I’m on. My mac

[maiden wren]

well, you know how to put fedora on a usb now from a mac, don't you?

[sand forge]

Well yes

But I feel like it would be faster to install windows

But I got this issue

And I can’t find any information

[maiden wren]

sounds very windows

idk how to deal with this particular issue sorry

[sand forge]

Fuckk

[maiden wren]

might ask the microsoft support

they have a live chat

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/contactus

[solar wigeon]

Hello

[solar wigeon]

How did you flash the iso?

I think you used the wrong tool to flash the iso

[sand forge]

Dw I already fixed it

Followed a tutorial and it worked

[solar wigeon]

you used woeusb?

you definitely flashed the iso wrong

[sand forge]

No since I was on macos

[solar wigeon]

thats what happens

ah

np

good that u fixed ity

[sand forge]

Yeah ty anyways

Now that I think about I should put it as resolved

[solar wigeon]

yep

[maiden wren]

... solved

[swift wharf]

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