Ban all links to X/Twitter.

[tulip tiger]

Amen and awomen to that /j

[north thorn]

im not going to play a nazi's game

[hard pivot]

😭😭😭

[north thorn]

you aren't even part of the community tho, you're literally new here

[cold pollen]

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Frequently_asked_questions#Arch_needs_more_press_(i.e._advertisement)

[glacial yarrow]

is the vote all over linux social circles or like how

[north thorn]

this isn't an official discord

y'all know that right

[hard pivot]

What kind of an argument is that

[tulip tiger]

Lunduke just being popular i guess lul

[barren cove]

i also disagree with this stance - you can't take a group and give them a side - I know plenty of queer people who left X, i know just as plenty who stayed and don't understand those who left, and just as plenty who don't care

using the group in the faith of your argument is tokenizing, too

[hard pivot]

Someone being new doesn't mean they're forbidden from talking

[kindred hill]

This

[noble geode]

The Notorious B.I.G. - Big Poppa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phaJXp_zMYM

[kindred hill]

Let people speak in good faith of they're coming in good faith

[glacial yarrow]

yeah lol

[north thorn]

it means they're new to the community and haven't interacted with it enough to understand why the community thinks the way they do, this isn't an official arch linux discord

[hard pivot]

You're literally being hypocrite

[glacial yarrow]

dont gatekeep

[narrow magnet]

The fact this topic is this controversial should be a big sign that banning Twitter links is not in the best interests of this community

[noble geode]

Lunduke didn't say that in his video conveniently
I don't even agree with the twitter ban but at that point his video is close to being arch slander

[hard pivot]

They conversation is simple and not like it has some deep lore

Ban Twitter because it's against LGBT yes or no

[tulip tiger]

Thanks lad

[glacial yarrow]

it was highly expected to be controversial and the poll still says yes by a big margin

[trail rampart]

Not everyone is discussing it tho? The poll says otherwise in #announcements

[barren cove]

it circles back to what I've been mentioning some time ago - every topic of this political sensitivity here will always be controversial

[cold pollen]

bandwagon fallacy

[narrow magnet]

A 62-38 split is still a significant split

[north thorn]

[trail rampart]

thats nearly 2/3 for the ban, that is quite substantial?

[lethal gorge]

…we left the EU on 52-48 lmao

tell that to Brits

[barren cove]

you can never please everyone, unfortunately

[north thorn]

ok sorry cat dad

[tulip tiger]

🤣 Yeah

[stark ruin]

That much is a fair statement.

[barren cove]

on one topic or another, you will always alienate some part of the community

[hard pivot]

I mean there is an easy solution

Allow it and don't interact with it

[barren cove]

if you read through this whole thread, you can even see that people defending the same side come to disagreements on some topics - it always happens, it always will, you can never have a 100% agreement on something

[north thorn]

we'll still be able to post screenshots after the ban, the point is to stop giving traffic to the site

[stark ruin]

However, I do not think it should be fair for new people to vote for an existing active community

[tulip tiger]

It can't be done accurately if alts keep their votes up even after leaving or being banned

[north thorn]

yea this was kinda my point even tho i got told i was gatekeeping

[barren cove]

still disagree with this stance too - either outright ban it entirely, screenshots/mirrors included - or don't click the links

people without an account should have the willpower to fight fascism on their own and not click the links, people with an account already drive more than enough traffic

[stark ruin]

It's not? It's like someone from another country trying to dictate your local policy.

[north thorn]

yeah

not giving traffic to twitter is still significant

[stark ruin]

I think the goal is Stopping traffic to site.

[hard pivot]

Until you don't, that's how censorship works you ban it little by little, or even with time people will misunderstood sharing Twitter links and posts as anything even the word Twitter itself

[north thorn]

it's not about convenience or comfort

[north thorn]

omg bruh it's not censorship, keep crying about it you aren't going to convince me

[cold pollen]

and the principle of not supporting a nazi

[barren cove]

this is why I thought this entire poll is just for drama - the ban itself will genuinely achieve nothing, but look at all the fighting it caused 😭

[noble geode]

fxtwitter

[north thorn]

if you say it's stupid to ban links but not screenshots, fine i'll give you good faith on that, but if you fuckin tell me bluh bluh 1984 i dont care, dont ping me with that

[stark ruin]

That shouldn't even have to be the discussion, I hate that it is. But it really shouldn't even have to come up. It should be innate not to support nazi (& for the pedantic group) & neo nazis

[north thorn]

yeah

[noble geode]

xcancel/Nitter

[noble geode]

based

[hard pivot]

I'm not convencing a hypocrite nor planning to do so, I'm just saying if you get triggered by something minute like this you'd get triggered at each small bits about it

[north thorn]

stop pinging me

[hard pivot]

You're pinging me too

[north thorn]

then stop pinging me first

[barren cove]

honestly could we not just have an alternative to pluralkit, but it just triggers on X links and resends them as fxtwitter?

it's convenient, it's not an outright ban, and it doesn't invalidate anyone, isn't controversial, and still stops the traffic

you cannot tell me the modteam of this server is not technologically literate enough to make this a thing

was this genuinely not thought of? 😭

[stark ruin]

Besides Twitter is antithetical to linux and and open source communities and platforms. It's a private for profit platform.

[north thorn]

that'd actually be a really good idea for a bot

[narrow magnet]

Negligible impact

[barren cove]

this is a bad faith argument - we're on discord

[tulip tiger]

The vote just didn't accounted for that, either ban or no ban, no compromise there

[stark ruin]

I know... lol

[barren cove]

i don't believe this wasn't thought of, this is genuinely such a good solution, on paper at least

[hard pivot]

Discord and each app is why Twitter exactly?

Not a good argument tbh

[barren cove]

why isn't this considered?

[north thorn]

the mods still have some control to police their community through discord despite tos, on twitter there's no influence to keep the bad out beyond restricting it

[hard pivot]

This is funny ngl 😭😭😭

[lethal gorge]

funny

[tulip tiger]

This person in tweet be like:

[barren cove]

yeah but the argument was that X is a private platform built for making profit

discord is exactly the textbook example of that

[north thorn]

you dont have free speech on private platforms, free speech is about the government, learn what free speech is

[north thorn]

true, but there's community moderation on discord at the very least

not enough to forgive discord of its sins, yes

[hard pivot]

Question, what's this server stance on Palestine, if I were to say I stand with them would I get banned?

[lethal gorge]

I’ve learned that almost every time somebody refers to free speech they are an antagonist lol

[barren cove]

don't let the bot that replaces links idea die, hold the moderation accountable and make them put a bit more effort into a community as massive as this

[hard pivot]

Okay this server isn't a hypocrite

[barren cove]

you will start drama with this question, this has been battle tested by me several times, please don't

this server has people from both sides of the conflict, as well as supporters of both

[hard pivot]

I'm just asking because usually it gets called out while other matters aren't

[stark ruin]

👀

[north thorn]

as long as people dont deny/defend genocide it's usually fine from what i've seen

[tulip tiger]

Free speech? People never consider that smacking in face for dumb in the word of majority opinion is free too

[north thorn]

my free speech is being oppressed because people dont agree with me waaahhh

/j

[barren cove]

some people here are very well educated on the issue, i am (at least was, until i completely distanced myself from foreign politics) an avid defender of the israeli side, yet I had some extremely productive conversations with several people from this server privately that both taught me and them some things and shed light on some points we didn't take into consideration

[north thorn]

you dont have to link a twitter post to have a discussion

[barren cove]

actually probably the most civil convos on the issue I've had were with people from this server

[north thorn]

yeah

[hard pivot]

I'm going to say this before I go

I'm sorry for you who want to ban Twitter or happy for your win idc

[north thorn]

ok bye

[barren cove]

please don't let the bot idea die, a good solution for an issue that we don't have to give up 🙏

[north thorn]

like, aight? discord isn't academic discussion but ok dude

linux is full of queer people, twitter is owned by a nazi

it's not that deep

[lethal gorge]

Before this whole debate started you had to scroll back 13 days to find the last time an x.com link was posted in this server

People acting like this will stop them using the arch wiki or something

[barren cove]

another +1 on how even bringing the issue up possibly only made things worse than they were...

[lethal gorge]

I at least partially agree there. To be clear, on the “this doesn’t matter that much” topic

[tulip tiger]

All forms of speech inherently hurt others, it's just difference in amount

[north thorn]

the people involved in making that software involves a large number of queer people

[stuck furnace]

discord is social media?

[north thorn]

yea, unfortunately

[tulip tiger]

unfortunately

[stuck furnace]

i dont this

[hard pivot]

Sadly it is

[north thorn]

like, aight, that's why it's political

[stuck furnace]

do twitter links still work?

[lethal gorge]

I know very few right wing software developers lol >.>

[north thorn]

yea they haven't been banned yet

[barren cove]

i know quite a lot

i just happen to be in the crossfire of all kinds of people 😭

[lethal gorge]

I always think it’s a weird crossover

[tulip tiger]

X is not all nazis, Elon Musk just happens to be one damn rich prick of a symbol for all bad things with it

[hard pivot]

I mens from what I've seen most devs, Linux users and anime fans are rightists if not extremists

[stuck furnace]

so too contriverisial?

[stark ruin]

To state something against (or for) a group of people is inherently political.

[north thorn]

no that is literally why it is political because the right makes it political, they tell us we're mentally ill/shouldn't exist/violent/rapists/pedophiles, lgbt peopel are just trying to vibe

it would be nice if things weren't political and didn't have to be

but we aren't the ones that made it political

[barren cove]

??? i honestly don't even have a reaction pic what is this take

[lethal gorge]

You post, hands down, the most bizarre takes. Bless you.

[north thorn]

right

[hard pivot]

I withdraw that statement, they don't care about politics, they just love what they do

[north thorn]

umm akshully it's about the community and how the community feels, and the community largely feels threatened by elon's twitter

[hard pivot]

And that's why I see conversations like this are pointless specially people who have their lives around these stuff

[barren cove]

it's 2:30 am i think i should put my damned phone down

[tardy mountain]

gang half the linux userbase is trans fym

[lavish folio]

Why do people use the word "nazi" in 2025?

[tulip tiger]

Too bad i'm outlier in your statistics

[north thorn]

<@&399818870568779776>

[hard pivot]

I don't think so

[warm venture]

You need to post more and scroll more and consume more content

[kindred hill]

%quickban 1335746894537687071

[silent moon]

\PewPewPew!!
RIP @twilit trail

[hard pivot]

Because it sounds cool

[warm venture]

Galileo really fell off after he made that telescope or whatever the fuck

[north thorn]

based aristocat is so fast

[tardy mountain]

based aristocat

[cold pollen]

lmao I am watching the lunduke journal video someone sent earlier

He's complaining about pronouns and Debian being woke for leaving twitter

[lethal gorge]

Like Xaero on Nightmare at the end of Quake 3

[chilly sigil]

that's probably way too much
maybe this server but like all of linux? nah

[barren cove]

nooooo i just closed my exams, i want sleep 😭

[north thorn]

it felt like he held the gun for me and let me pull the trigger

[lavish folio]

that's a wild thing to say

[kindred hill]

i'm offended he didn't cover me first

[tulip tiger]

I wonder why it wasn't threatened before that

[barren cove]

unfortunately false because 95% of Linux userbase are datacenters

[ornate scroll]

yea i feel like his video in a few ways was disingenuous

[tardy mountain]

yea it was hyperbole but

[barren cove]

and russian infrastructure, funnily enough

[tardy mountain]

id argue a good chunk of the people staffing datacenters are queer

[barren cove]

i don't remember the last time I saw windows in a public institution like a hospital

[lethal gorge]

Furries make the internet go.

[north thorn]

bruh 95% of linux datacenter staff are queer furries

[chilly sigil]

maybe lot of gentoo and arch and whatever userbase, but think of the average ubuntu user

[tardy mountain]

YEAH

[cold pollen]

He's complaining about the Arch Code of Conduct LOOL

[north thorn]

like wtf

[tulip tiger]

The forbidden past peace symbol

[hard pivot]

I'm not an English and I don't feel it but that's what I believe in at least, so anything extremist I say even tho I don't mean it I don't feel it, if that makes it clearer

[tulip tiger]

🤭

[north thorn]

whataboutism, dont care

[hard pivot]

Yes

[barren cove]

yes what 💀.

[tardy mountain]

to answer your question: yes :trol:

[stark ruin]

Elon literally went to Germany, told Germans to embrace German culture and German people and back alt-right German politics.

So there is a big easy reason to discuss the word Nazi in 2025...

[tulip tiger]

Nice wall of whataboutism

[hard pivot]

Cool Pic, saved

[barren cove]

say sike rn

[chilly sigil]

would jewish scientist share with german nazi scientist?

[north thorn]

come ON, im STARVING here, give me some good arguments

[hard pivot]

You're just finding someone to troll

[tardy mountain]

ubuntu is the best linux distro :trol:

[tulip tiger]

The good arguments have run out here

[north thorn]

ubunut

[stark ruin]

Asking conservatives to have good arguments and not just regurgitating what they hear? Yeah, more likely to end the world before that happens.

[lethal gorge]

systemd is (flips coin) awesome.

[north thorn]

yea, it was irony

[tardy mountain]

nintendo wii u

[hard pivot]

Didn't like it, not saved

[noble geode]

What would be the implications of this happening?

[hard pivot]

It's funny

But I'll not use it

[tardy mountain]

me chasing my last braincell

[tulip tiger]

Funny

[lavish folio]

I think it's really weird to rebrand a dead century old genocidal movement as anyone with exclusionary views.

[hard pivot]

I agree

[north thorn]

did you know nazis never went away

[barren cove]

this but unironically

[north thorn]

shocking, but true

[tardy mountain]

when people call someone a nazi they mean neo-nazis

[hard pivot]

Doesn't English have 600k words? Why not pick any instead of taking a dead one

[stark ruin]

Wonderful question. Next?

[hard pivot]

I mean yeah they act similar but find a new word that describe and suit better

[north thorn]

congratulations or sorry that happened to you idk i didnt read it

[lethal gorge]

Is that Markov output

[tardy mountain]

and you cannot argue that neo-nazis dont exist

[lavish folio]

Alright, i still think its weird. Because these are nothing alike.

[hard pivot]

Nazis where extremists towards their race not being straight or whatever

[north thorn]

they are extremely similar if you know anything about nazis

[stark ruin]

Love when we gotta worry about what white people have to worry about.

[north thorn]

the nazis didn't just kill jews you know

[tardy mountain]

you think elon musk likes black people?

also

nazis did also genocide queer people!

[hard pivot]

Oh forgot about that

[tardy mountain]

they burnt books about trans and gay people!

[barren cove]

honestly, we are all wasting our time here running in circles and infighting for absolutely nothing

keep the bot idea alive, hold the mods accountable, become ungovernable, im going to sleep

[hard pivot]

He also doesn't care about Arabs or Muslims so yeah

[stark ruin]

So why strawman in favor of him?

[north thorn]

like if you want to be semantic i guess he hasn't killed any jews yet so you can call him a fascist

but it doesn't matter

[tulip tiger]

But certainly poland doesn't exist

[lethal gorge]

Look at how the US is treating trans people right now. Erasing them from public records and health information sites. Rejecting their passport applications. Firing them from their jobs for being “DEI hires”

[tardy mountain]

its a fake country!!!!

[hard pivot]

You know, if I see a conversation like that I choose to think that we all should just list all the points and pin them, then vote on them

[north thorn]

literally caused 2 plane crashes in 2 days cus of that

[hard pivot]

Because most conversation do not get us to anything new

[lethal gorge]

That’s almost mirror image of how Jews and “undesirables” were treated in the lead-in to Nazi rule

[hard pivot]

Just like anything else really

[lethal gorge]

If you think they’re not Nazis, you’re blind.

[north thorn]

chud gonna chud, nothing out of the ordinary

[stark ruin]

They'll literally gun down a trans person or latino and say, but it's 2025 not 1942.

[tulip tiger]

Yeah he just makes us famous

[north thorn]

lol your pics are cute

[tardy mountain]

i think anyone who doesnt agree with me should die actually /j

[noble geode]

[tulip tiger]

Would you believe that i have over 700 of them?

[hard pivot]

AGREE

WE ALL SHOULD FIGHT TILL DEATH

[full solstice]

and your songs are rad! Yeah, I'm lurking here haha

[tulip tiger]

AGREE :D

[north thorn]

[hard pivot]

Do you've a full folder of this character that Idk the name of?

[tulip tiger]

Yes

[gusty stump]

why do you just have tjis map laying around for when you need it?/genq

[north thorn]

i think they're from toho

[tulip tiger]

Their name is Koishi

[hard pivot]

Man

I try to have a folder of stuff

[noble geode]

i searched on google europe without poland

[hard pivot]

But I delete all the pics afterwards even vids

[gusty stump]

i thought you judt had it saved lol

[tulip tiger]

I have seperate folder for memes, categorized neatly... all over 16000 of them

[noble geode]

oh lol
I could probably make something like that on my own in about a minute but i'm lazy

[full solstice]

True 🙂 Is it OK to send DM? I don't see an option or role for that here in this server

[north thorn]

sure

[lavish folio]

This is becoming really weird, so I'll end it here.
But, no. They're not.
Nazism was specifically about Arian superiority and eugenics programs. Just because they share one group they discriminated against doesn't make them the same at all. It's rare to find entities that didn't discriminate against LGBTQ+ before the modern age. That doesn't make them "nazis".

[north thorn]

b r u h, historical revisionism

[tulip tiger]

😆

[north thorn]

open a fuckign textbook

[tulip tiger]

Like they would read this much

[north thorn]

"literally hitler "

[lavish folio]

You think Elon Musk and Hitler share the same ideology?
...

[north thorn]

😭 bruh

[hard pivot]

Don't tell me it's what I think it is....

[tardy mountain]

Yes!

elon musk actively backs AfD which is essentially the modern nazi party

[lethal gorge]

And Yaxley-Lennon in the UK, who is a neo Nazi

[tardy mountain]

elon musk works for donald trump, who is actively trying to put non-whites and queer people in concentration camps!

[lavish folio]

what?

[north thorn]

like how can you be this in denial about elon

[tulip tiger]

Huh? Words out of air? Don't try to find enemies in some people

[ornate scroll]

huh?

[north thorn]

wdym what, they just told you an undeniable fact about the american administration

[lavish folio]

where did he say concentrantion camps? i'm just wondering you know.

[tardy mountain]

MF

[lethal gorge]

The only thing I don’t believe about elon is the babyfur rumour. Because babyfurs are too cool to associate with him.

[tardy mountain]

DO YOU THINK THE NAZIS CALLED THEM CONCENTRATION CAMPS EITHER?

[north thorn]

guantanamo??? ICE?????????

[tulip tiger]

😆

[north thorn]

hello??????????????????????????

do you live under a rock?

[hard pivot]

Guys I want to understand, will the right make a come back while the left decline in popularity cuz of the recent stuff and Trump?

[kindred hill]

https://bsky.app/profile/the-aristocat.bsky.social/post/3lh7sa2mdw22l

Aristo (@the-aristocat.bsky.social)

In the last couple of days, I have seen people on various open source communities compare the wave of banning Twitter on Discord & Reddit as "banning an entire nation", and this take infuriates me for many reasons that I am about to dive into.

Bluesky

[lavish folio]

he said he'll put queer and non-white people in guantamo?

[tulip tiger]

It's a swinging routine, right comes, left goes, right goes, left comes

[chilly sigil]

do you believe in freedom of making your discord server with whatever rules you want? that's the position of server owner

[cold pollen]

he did his video is hilarious

[tulip tiger]

It would be just disturbing peace, like any other yelling

[cold pollen]

just spends the whole time painting the mods and servers as communist nutjobs against free speech

[hard pivot]

Would it return to what it was?

[chilly sigil]

worst part where i live no one would probably care much lol

[tulip tiger]

I'm not sure, if someone didn't cut the rope on that swing then sure

[north thorn]

yes, what do you think those are for

[chilly sigil]

yeah, the standards are very different between west(+america) and east(ish) europe

[lavish folio]

no, he didn't. you're being overly antagonistic. you don't need to make anyone into hitler. the reality is bad enough.

[hard pivot]

Pancake you're like the most angriest Tohuo fan I've ever seen

[brazen comet]

i think that this change wouldnt go far because you'd have to invent a system of detecting twitter embed fixers (like vxtwitter) and banning those as well. and theres basically an unlimited amount of those. even if implemented, this rule would be hard to enforce

[tulip tiger]

You can't change their mind by swinging whataboutism type situations at them left and right

[hard pivot]

I think they all are like that but yeah

[north thorn]

wtf do you think guantanamo is for dude

like seriously, answer the question, what do you think it is

[chilly sigil]

you can, and probably will, but only in largest cities

[tulip tiger]

That was probably just a straw that broke camels back

[hard pivot]

Since the lifting the right hand is considered nazism, why wouldn't the left lift their hand to assert their ideals?

[chilly sigil]

wouldn't that make every president nazi? since all of them allowed it to exist? honest question

[hard pivot]

It would be cool

[tardy mountain]

he did a nazi salute

[stark ruin]

He's working in part with US government so why let a national platform be open.

[tardy mountain]

<@&399818870568779776>

[north thorn]

clearly not in the same range

[tulip tiger]

There's a reason why so many want to nuke France 🤣

[lavish folio]

what kind of question is that? i don't know about the history of it's founding too much. i think it was for like terrorists after 9/11.
currently, it sounds like you're saying that trump will throw all non-whites and queer people in there? what are you even on.

[kindred hill]

What's the video about, not in a place to watch it

[hard pivot]

I have a theory that UK drive on the left because they want you to lift your left hand so that you become a leftist and forget about nazism and war

[north thorn]

guantanamo is literally a concentration camp, trump is sitting on papers to put it into action in a couple weeks if not sooner

[tulip tiger]

Damn girl chill, your nerves don't deserve to be thrown to someone like them

[lavish folio]

where are you getting this from? the second part.

[tardy mountain]

its just a video of AOC with her hand raised and they're comparing it to elon musk's salute

[kindred hill]

That's not ping worthy.

[tardy mountain]

same thing here but with some french mf

[kindred hill]

If it was gore or some shit, different

[tardy mountain]

my apologies

[north thorn]

https://apnews.com/article/guantanamo-bay-detention-migrants-what-to-know-trump-d027c5c24b523f31a62271dcbe7c010e

[tardy mountain]

they're just like "OMG IF ELON NAZI THEN THESE OTHER POLITICIANS NAZI TOO!!!!"

[tulip tiger]

So... how many centimeters margin of error is allowed before it swings into not cool territory?

[stark ruin]

Bit of a goof? No way, that's an undersell, the dude is outright an annoying [insert choice of swear here]

[noble geode]

Why does blud have 6 arms

[hard pivot]

Since making jokes about serious stuff makes people treat it as a joke and never take it seriously why not making the nazi salute a joke by doing it often and for asserting lgbt dominance or smth?

[lavish folio]

he said he'll send repeat offender criminals in jail. sure, that's an inhumane jail but that's not what you said before.

[north thorn]

arm creature

[narrow magnet]

https://x.com/NewAmericanMag/status/1885381233464467801

The New American (@NewAmericanMag) on X

The "Nazi salute" media double standard nicely meme-fied.

X · Jan 31, 2025, 5:34 PM

[tardy mountain]

hes going to send "illegal immigrants" to guantanamo

[north thorn]

no, he said he's sending all immigrants there indiscriminantly and arbitrarily, there's no guide on what's deemed as an "illegal immigrant" because first generation immigrants are classified, and it's also at the discretion of the officer charging the immigrant

[cold pollen]

you're being disingenuous and you know it

the card says moops

[lavish folio]

that's not what it says though. at all. at least the article you've sent. it's not even just talking about illegal aliens, it's talking about illegal aliens that have commited other crimes.

[north thorn]

if you say so, i dont agree

[tardy mountain]

i think we should ban anyone who says "Illegal aliens" :trol:

[narrow magnet]

I feel it is disingenuous to say musk is a nazi for putting his arm in a position many left wing politicians did

[north thorn]

tens of thousands

“We’re going to send them out to Guantánamo,” Trump said at the signing of the Laken Riley Act. ```

you're being purposefully oblique now

[tardy mountain]

send the videos

[north thorn]

already said i disagreed

[past cliff]

be so for real

[tardy mountain]

send the fucking videos coward

there's a fucking reason you assholes dont ever show the videos

because your moot point immediately falls apart as soon as the videos are shown

[cold pollen]

they won't, the card says moops

[north thorn]

im already in the middle of a discussion rn about things i find more important

[narrow magnet]

Then close out of the thread lol

Continue that other discussion

[cold pollen]

they're not here acting in good faith

[north thorn]

what an insightful comment, i'll just become a moderator and do it then if that's what you think i should do

[narrow magnet]

I corrected it to "close out" quickly for a reason

[north thorn]

no

[narrow magnet]

(As in navigate away from the thread)

[north thorn]

no

[tardy mountain]

JOE MANY LIBERALS DOES IT CHANGE TO CHANGE A LOG BY BOLB

[north thorn]

lol

[lavish folio]

i think it's clear that this in particular is about to repeat offender criminals. also there is absolutely no one who thinks that illegal immigrants that haven't commited other crimes will be sent there. they'll be deported if caught.

that said, arguing about this is pointless. i can't change what will happen anyway.

[tulip tiger]

That's just Elon, he wasn't funny before the salute

[tardy mountain]

are you dumb or fucking stupid?

[lavish folio]

what do you mean

[north thorn]

lol

[tardy mountain]

"its about criminals" "it about illegal immigrants" but it's never just criminals its never just illegal immigrants

[narrow magnet]

Fair point, also yes

[tardy mountain]

politicians lie

[north thorn]

this is how it starts, first they other them, then they jail them, then they slaughter them

[tardy mountain]

and especially these bunch of nazis lie a lot

[narrow magnet]

Those associated with politicians also lie

[ornate scroll]

from what i saw in the news its all people who have done illegal stuff. idk if thats true though.

[north thorn]

being an immigrant is illegal to them

they get to define what's illegal

[narrow magnet]

It was funny seeing the outlets say just "Trump fell over after loud noises heard" when the 13th of July happened

[tardy mountain]

*not being white is illegal to them

[north thorn]

yeah

[tardy mountain]

its not disingenuous

it's disingenuous to think they're not

[stark ruin]

Yup there is no good immigrant to them when they can say they are already illegal to begin with. This repeat offender shit is B.S. and only bought by the willfully ignorant

[tulip tiger]

Madam, you might be getting caught into their rage bait

[lavish folio]

this is actually delusional

[ornate scroll]

im more right than left but i think both extreams are bad.

[tardy mountain]

hey did you know that i cannot safely enter the US in any way shape or form?

[ornate scroll]

you can. i imagine a work visa is a thing

[north thorn]

that's some cool ableist language you're using, hi im schizophrenic btw

[stark ruin]

White folks just scared that us Latinos gonna be majority at the current rate.

[tardy mountain]

now also imagine me being shot or jailed because i am trans

that's what would happen

[narrow magnet]

No it's wouldn't, that's just fear

[ornate scroll]

there would be alot more news if that happened. there is still left news outlets.

[tardy mountain]

no the fuck its not

[tulip tiger]

You can be shot anytime in dark corner for any reason, US is mess in gun ownership 🙃

[tardy mountain]

if i were in the US i would not be safe

[north thorn]

uh there's a lot of trans shootings and lynchings that aren't reported, even by police

[lavish folio]

it's a necessary word, it's just useful. Also if you were experiencing a delusion would it not be a good thing if someone clarified it? i don't get the point of trying to limit language when it's not being used in a offensive way.

[north thorn]

you're ableist as fuck i dont like you

[narrow magnet]

There's a lot of other crimes similarly not reported by police

It is corrupt but the corruption reaches both sides

[tardy mountain]

am i having a delusion?

[north thorn]

<@&399818870568779776> ableism

to use it pejoratively yes

[ornate scroll]

in the us? i aint heard of em. must be some states then. ive heard of major abuse from those wilderness camp things in utah but not straight up killing

[lavish folio]

we shouldn't have a word for "not of reality" because it's inherently ableist?

[north thorn]

you haven't heard of them because they aren't reported, we aren't important to the media

[tardy mountain]

"hey chat we're stealing money" and "hey chat you can kill these groups of people and we dont care" are on very different levels

[stark ruin]

And the scary part for trans? Government not allowing them passports to even leave for the ones with financial or social support to do so.

[north thorn]

no

[noble geode]

<@&399818870568779776>

[tulip tiger]

Does that mean that one needs to be trans to be invisible to media after committing crime?

[stark ruin]

<@&399818870568779776>

[narrow magnet]

On one side they lied about the race of a person they unjustly interrogated on their report card

On the other hand a huge volume of theft crimes in California are unreported due to the large volume of them

[stark ruin]

Literally posting nazi imagery smh

[north thorn]

oh my god again with this shit, they all have the same 3 things they like to throw out in debates and they're always wrong

[cold pollen]

they stopped doing the bellamy salute in America, I wonder why

[tardy mountain]

ok tell me now, do you think theft is on par or worse than murder

[tulip tiger]

I think you're not gonna last that long on this server with your opinions

[stark ruin]

Summarize better/shorter. Ain't wasting my time.

[tardy mountain]

its not a good point

it was taken from hindu culture sure

[north thorn]

nazi sympathizers in chat fr

[tardy mountain]

but that doesnt take away from the fact it is now A NAZI SYMBOL

you're either a nazi or severely stupid

[tulip tiger]

Crazy... most sane ones left already, now it's end game of this convo

[narrow magnet]

I've not seen any proof of them allowing murder within the 21st century so I can't answer your question. Feel free to enlighten me with it though

[stark ruin]

Or even both

[tardy mountain]

well yeah the first one implies the second one

[cold pollen]

https://youtu.be/xMabpBvtXr4

[tardy mountain]

tell me now.

[tardy mountain]

you can answer my question

you are arguing in bad faith

[tulip tiger]

Hello mr Nazi troll, and goodbye

<@&399818870568779776>

[narrow magnet]

It is not

[north thorn]

<@&399818870568779776>

[tardy mountain]

ok so

[north thorn]

try a little harder dude jegus

your point stinks and so do you

[tardy mountain]

"not reporting the murders of queer people" and "not reporting theft cuz theres too much of it" are not on par with each other yes?

[tulip tiger]

That point was so sharp you cut your own neck

[tardy mountain]

so you're -9 got it

[north thorn]

lmao self report

[past cliff]

stop the cap

[north thorn]

no one believe you lil bro

[tulip tiger]

:3

[kindred hill]

%quickban 143058353306861568

[silent moon]

\PewPewPew!!
RIP @umbral sonnet

[narrow magnet]

No they are not on par with each other, the former is definitely worse

But again I've not heard of any such cases, but again, feel free to let me know of any

[storm willow]

aw man i just missed it

[cold pollen]

also

[north thorn]

also the ableism earlier

[noble geode]

thank you

[silent moon]

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[tulip tiger]

Thanks again

[silent moon]

aristocat56 received a thank you cookie!

[past cliff]

it's always the new people

[narrow magnet]

I know of sone unjust Kiwifarms harassment campaigns that resulted in suicide but i don't think that'd be related

[lavish folio]

thanks

[silent moon]

aristocat56 received a thank you cookie!

[cold pollen]

It's almost as if they aren't here to act in good faith

[tulip tiger]

Not surprising

[lavish folio]

well yeah, lunduke just made an video. trolls coming from there.

[tardy mountain]

REAL

[warm venture]

Person who has sent 2 messages in the server: YOU ARR SILENCING MY RIGHT TO FREE SPECH AND SEND X LINK!!!!

[narrow magnet]

And also do feel free to let me know what this has to do with Elon musk and Twitter

[ornate scroll]

i disagree and im not getting banned

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[north thorn]

purposefully obtuse, they have been explaining it to you, you're ignoring them intentionally

[ornate scroll]

its just people who are uncivil and throwing hate.

[cold pollen]

presumably because you're doing so in good faith

[lavish folio]

it's crazy that people get mad at me for using the word "delusion" and this is allowed.

[narrow magnet]

I'm sorry I didn't know musk also owned all of America's police agencies, I will sit down now

[cold pollen]

this is a strawman argument

[north thorn]

what is even your point with this

[cold pollen]

non sequitur

[north thorn]

everyone knows the nazis appropriated it

[warm venture]

Symbols are surrounded in the context in which they are. Obviously some pasty edgy kid will never use a swastika because they’re trying to send “peace vibes” or whatever. Nobody goes to Hindu temples and calls them out for having a swastika. It’s only a problem when people try to cover behind other cultures so they have an excuse to send swastikas

[narrow magnet]

It is also a fallacy to call me obtuse for questioning what police's activity has to do with Elon musk

[stark ruin]

Womp womp tldr not watching a video more than 20 seconds

[north thorn]

you think we're freaking out over symbols? damn you should lurk more

[ornate scroll]

i think i did here an outrage on twitter or something about a hindu temple having their symbol of their temple posted on social media.

[tulip tiger]

Hey atleast it will get funny if i'm featured in another video and suddenly for some reason flood of nazis come to me... only to be bonked one by one as each one proves their unworthiness 🤣

[ornate scroll]

or a temple*

[tardy mountain]

i wonder what the doings of trump's administration have to do with trump's boyfriend elon musk, i wonder

[warm venture]

Ok well people on twitter say anything because most of them are bougie white kids with nothing better to do

[ornate scroll]

lol

[warm venture]

Right or left they’re all BOUGIE!!!

[stark ruin]

Bro out here being like "you're being so anti-hindu" ain't even Hindu, is probably white and ISNT trying to defend the iron cross which would MAYBE be his culture or at least more believable. Lmao.

[north thorn]

yea people on twitter are stupid

[tardy mountain]

wait let me try something

[tulip tiger]

I live in poland... that is already a warning for them that they're all equally worthless

[north thorn]

right lmao

shit point tbh

[stark ruin]

Is this "the radical left"
/ssssssd

[tardy mountain]

ok now we see if i get into mf's next video :trol:

[stark ruin]

Nevermind I don't even have to make the responses they write themselves.

[tardy mountain]

i think i should kill him myself <3

[north thorn]

you're trying to veer it off topic because you think we're talking about something that is so far removed from what the actual discussion is

[narrow magnet]

That i can agree with

There's a mix of stupid and non-stupid that still exists

Although I disagree that the baby should be thrown out with the bathwater

[warm venture]

You don’t care what the fuck happens in this server lol

[tulip tiger]

And kill the publicity of deaf ears... here right now?

[north thorn]

dont care

[stark ruin]

Then leave and make your own server

Bye

[warm venture]

You only care it’s off topic because you personally disagree with the discussion

[stark ruin]

Bye zezba

Bye bye go be the change you want

[north thorn]

byeeee

[tulip tiger]

Better late than never to know that

[north thorn]

be the change you want to see in the world homie

[tardy mountain]

who says im joking

[stark ruin]

Womp womp

[tardy mountain]

besides, self-defense is legal still right?

[tulip tiger]

How about we wish for all of them to be gone, surely a nice wake up call for non preppers will happen

[warm venture]

Wow… OMG… people on the internet.. they’re not being hecking wholesome right now

Guys stop inciting violence my mom checks my phone!!!

[stark ruin]

Why won't the random internet strangers bend over and bow down to my will and beliefs.

[storm willow]

omfg i read this as "woke up call" im so fucking cooked

[north thorn]

my ccp assigned spy from xiaohongshu will be disappointed in meeeee

[stark ruin]

WOMP WOMP

Wish multiple presidents were just yknow.

[tardy mountain]

"WAHHH THE DEMOCRATS ARE BAD" vs "these people actually want me dead"

[stark ruin]

Treated like the French revolution 🥰

[north thorn]

"😭 DEI WOKE WOKE DEI WOKE"

[sweet tulip]

who wants you dead

[tardy mountain]

you know, just the president of the united states

[north thorn]

no thanks

[silent moon]

zezba9000 received a thank you cookie!

[sweet tulip]

why would he want you dead ??

[north thorn]

im not interested in working with you on anything

[stark ruin]

Sadly some (or gladly) are already passed on thank fuck

[silent moon]

cinnamonpancake received a thank you cookie!

[tardy mountain]

i am trans

[sweet tulip]

where did he say he wanted trans people to be dead?

[north thorn]

he literally uses his twitter to say it constantly bro

[full solstice]

You millennial leftists who never lived one day under nuclear threat can now reflect upon your WOKE sky!
You mad quite the non-binary fuss over intercontinental ballistic tweets

[sweet tulip]

fr???

[north thorn]

lol

[sweet tulip]

(I don't use it)

[agile vortex]

how is this still going

[north thorn]

yea fr, thats why we dont want to be associated with twitter anymore

[ornate scroll]

trump did say "we need to stop this trans nonsense" i dont think he ever said we need to kill trans people

[tulip tiger]

Government, people from dark alley corners, paid mercenaries, nazis, transphobes

[narrow magnet]

Then surely it shouldn't be hard to find a screenshot of him saying it then

[stark ruin]

Waaa nuclear threat. Fake never gonna happen.

[sweet tulip]

yeah I want to see

[stark ruin]

There will never be a nuclear threat because no country is dumb enough to end the world.

[tardy mountain]

hey did you know that trans women in male prisons get raped by workers and prisoners alike and everyone just lets it happen?

[tulip tiger]

You're saying putin can't get more insane than that?

[warm venture]

Well erm trump didn’t say “kill all trans people kill all trans people” verbatim so he actually wishes every trans person lives a happy life

[tulip tiger]

There's always something worse coming, we just don't know it yet

[north thorn]

you can look it up yourself, twitter is still free

[stark ruin]

Nah, I have faith that someone cares more for his friends or family and will literally go against their country. Be it Russia, in USA, Cuba, China, Anywhere in the EU, etc.

[tardy mountain]

and there we go, <@&399818870568779776>

[sweet tulip]

fml I need to make an x account now to even see trumps tweets

[north thorn]

<@&399818870568779776>

[sweet tulip]

or is there a url trick

[north thorn]

damn that was a hard right turn

just said fuck the mask

[storm willow]

lmfao

[kindred hill]

%quickban 1311829089086079027

[north thorn]

bye loser

[silent moon]

\fires them railguns at @light plaza Ò_Ó

[north thorn]

hi thanks aristocat

[warm venture]

How it felt reading that

[storm willow]

follow aristocat on Bluesky

[narrow magnet]

He provided as much proof as yall did lol

[north thorn]

so you're defending him?

[tardy mountain]

google "v-coding"

[storm willow]

okay!

[full solstice]

It's a bit confusing whenever someone is banned that previous messages are automatically deleted. No one can actually see what happened unless they were looking at it at the right time

[sweet tulip]

anyway how can I view twitter without an account?

[past cliff]

gotta get vencord

[north thorn]

does it block you now?

[narrow magnet]

He had good points before though (which are all now gone due to the politically-motivated ban)

[ornate scroll]

you cant

[tulip tiger]

My mask already slipped, i just don't have reason yet to spend money and hunt some random person down the london style with knife... or run with scissors

[full solstice]

I have vencord

[storm willow]

wow, that's terrible! thanks for helping me be informed about issues in our prison and justice systems!

[north thorn]

"good points" "trans people in prison do the raping" uh huh

[full solstice]

how can you see previous messages like that, is it a plugin?

[stark ruin]

Alright I probably shouldn't say never for anything. But I don't think it'll happen in our lifetime.

[narrow magnet]

before

[tulip tiger]

Another point so sharp it cut their neck

[tardy mountain]

i think transphobia is bad actually

[cold pollen]

what did he say

[tardy mountain]

do you think transphobia is bad?

[narrow magnet]

before

Who's ignoring who now?

[north thorn]

said something wildly transphobic

[tulip tiger]

🤭

[sleek nimbus]

he was openly transphobic for a looooooong time now

has been* smth smth english sucks

[north thorn]

you're being purposefully obtuse

[tardy mountain]

you'd rather not know

[north thorn]

damn

[full solstice]

Gotcha!

[warm venture]

He did

[north thorn]

good riddance

[stark ruin]

Yes

At least since I looked

[cold pollen]

I want to know that's why I am asking

[storm willow]

unrelated but i think you guys would like the Tetris The Grand Master series, they're really enjoyable, though hard as nails takes on Tetris :)

[stark ruin]

I knew nothing was good faith from him the moment I saw his profile.

[tardy mountain]

they said transphobic shit gang that's it

[north thorn]

he said trans women in prisons do all the raping

[cold pollen]

ic

[tardy mountain]

welp ok

[sweet tulip]

so I went back 6 months on trumps twitter and there's 0 results for 'trans'
I think it's insane if he actually said anything like that, but I'm still trying to find it

[kindred hill]

yeah i agree, follow me on bluesky https://bsky.app/profile/the-aristocat.bsky.social

Aristo (@the-aristocat.bsky.social)

Educator, animal enthusiast, tech enthusiast. Server owner for Debian Community (https://discord.gg/debian).

Bluesky

[storm willow]

and then tried to backpedal by saying "all people in prisons are bad" like that changes literally fucking anything

[cold pollen]

https://bsky.app/profile/kayla641.bsky.social follow me too

Kayla (@kayla641.bsky.social)

Geometry Dash player
she/her, Trans lesbian
Democratic socialist, civil libertarian
I use arch btw

Bluesky

[north thorn]

if you say so

[north thorn]

right

[tulip tiger]

They crashed into tree 🤣

[tardy mountain]

dont follow me anywhere actually

[warm venture]

His twitter isn’t as good as a source. You should also check his truth social in addition

[sweet tulip]

oh wait I went all the way back to 2021

[warm venture]

I believe there’s a truth social reposts page somewhere

[sweet tulip]

okay what's truth social?

[cold pollen]

+1 follower success

[pulsar heart]

i dont use twitter, fediverse or bluesky because idk i like being lonely

[warm venture]

His twitter fiefdom cause he got banned from regular twitter

[tardy mountain]

buy me a wii u instead

[narrow magnet]

I am disappointed that you have decided to turn a discussion about banning Twitter links into attacks against people to get them to say something you think is unacceptable and then banning them for it

Extremely disingenuous and disappointing. Will definitely be looking for other arch Linux servers

[north thorn]

aw :(

[sweet tulip]

I don't know what truth social is, is that a different social network?

[tulip tiger]

All truth is relative in some way

[warm venture]

Do it bro

[stark ruin]

I don't use them because post based social media depresses me.

[sweet tulip]

oh it is

[warm venture]

Yesss

[tardy mountain]

GOOD!! LEAVE!!!! NOONE WANTS YOU HERE!!!!!

[storm willow]

+2*

[north thorn]

obtuse

[full solstice]

It's a social media but at first it was just for people in the US, not sure if that's still the case

[stark ruin]

I like this because it's real time chat. Not a karma farm or w/e farming likes, retweets, etc.

[tardy mountain]

also dude i just brought up something that actually happens and they just went on to call trans women rapists dude

[north thorn]

right hopy shit

[warm venture]

You haven’t heard of ⭐ farming?

[full solstice]

Yeah that's not a nice generalization to make

[stark ruin]

Lmao that's not a thing is it?

[storm willow]

skibidi dop dop yes yes yes it is 😔✊

[warm venture]

It is some servers have a starboard where if you react with ⭐ and it gets some predetermined value it shows up

[tulip tiger]

Madam this ain't a reddit

[chilly sigil]

btw guys what's the difference between bluesky and mastodon?

[full solstice]

I'm against banning people but no need to be mean and upset people to win arguments

[stark ruin]

Holy social media cope whyyyyy 😭 😭 😭

[north thorn]

bluesky most people actually want to use, mastodon only nerds use

[storm willow]

also i don't like mastodon's interface sorry

[north thorn]

same

[sweet tulip]

they all look like twitter lol

[tardy mountain]

one is technologically cool and the other is technologically cooler

[full solstice]

I use none of it. What does that make me, a hermit? 😄

[tulip tiger]

bluesky is just sugar coated twitter in my opinion

[north thorn]

[storm willow]

yes

[chilly sigil]

oh
bluesky looks like xwitter clone so makes sense

[cold pollen]

+3 followers great success

[north thorn]

yea its twitter before elon took over

[storm willow]

[north thorn]

anyway are the fashies gone

[warm venture]

It’s pretty cool

[tulip tiger]

Another takeover will happen over time, at this point we are just playing cat and mouse game

[north thorn]

true

[tulip tiger]

I think so

[chilly sigil]

technological coolness? in social media site? wdym

[warm venture]

Bluesky has its.. problems but I think it has more benefits then whatever twitter had

[north thorn]

yeah i agree its not perfect

[storm willow]

also it's woke and that's good imo

[north thorn]

the category section is kinda jank

[ornate scroll]

i still dont get why people didnt go to the more decentralized mastodon

[warm venture]

It’s woke vibes but I’ve heard some things

[warm venture]

Cause it SUCKS!!!

[stark ruin]

Ok fair enough, it just isn't an interest od mine.

[north thorn]

i dont like mastodon

[tardy mountain]

its fine be fr
also check out misskey and forks

[full solstice]

what's that?

[ornate scroll]

how? its about the same as blusky. except instead of having a node connect to someones delivery node. its node to node traffic.

[north thorn]

if everyone moves to mastodon i'll use it, but no one really went there

[narrow magnet]

One last comment, it is definitely interesting that the moderators are letting one side in particular get away with breaking rule 1 on a blank check basis

[full solstice]

Why not? Isn't it similar to Discord, just more forum?

[chilly sigil]

decentralisation is least thing people care about tbh

[north thorn]

like no one as in like, not many

[tardy mountain]

bluesky is cool and you can use it on iOS 6 so

[north thorn]

nah it's like a weird twitter

[ornate scroll]

i personally like the ui especially with the advanced mode

[tulip tiger]

Yeah, the internet base knowledge has barely grew

[tardy mountain]

the protocols

[storm willow]

i tried and it SUCKS

to use, it sucks to use. im sorry but while i like mastodon in theory, in practice i find it a bit of a mess. that's kind of beautiful in itself, but it doesn't make it fun to use imo. plus half the people i like interacting with on socials don't exist there, or if they do they're on an instance that i can't connect to because my instance hosted decided to block THEIR instance

[full solstice]

What is rule 1 and how are they breaking it?

[chilly sigil]

even on matrix most people just use the default server

[warm venture]

This is the most technologically cool site: https://sylveon.top

[north thorn]

anyway now that the fashies are gone, im gonna take a nap good work everyone

[stark ruin]

Sylveon? I love sylveon.

[warm venture]

Don’t tell me it’s down bro

[storm willow]

beautiful. a technical marvel. generations will be discussing it

[full solstice]

Good idea. Comfy bed?

[north thorn]

yea i have a queen size bed

[chilly sigil]

like api?
idk how would that make for much better site tbh
bluesky seems like exact copy of twitter to me

[tulip tiger]

nah

[tardy mountain]

activitypub is cool because all the foss servers
atproto is cooler because it is cooler

[ornate scroll]

ah. i havent used it enough to see that sorta blocking going on.

[north thorn]

thanks

[narrow magnet]

The rule to respect others

[full solstice]

Yay queen! Mine is big as well

[warm venture]

I have trauma cause Debian kept on crashing my VPS. I switched to Alpine and it’s been smooth sailing

[tardy mountain]

alpine my beloved

[warm venture]

Alpine kinda goated

It’s installer is like openbsd

[vagrant meadow]

did i miss something?

[warm venture]

I tried openbsd but it kernel panicked during setup

And that left a poor taste in my mouth

[tardy mountain]

netbsd is the bestbsd

[storm willow]

I've only used Alpine on iPhone and on Android

[vagrant meadow]

i used openbsd as a desktop 20 or so years ago; it was much faster than linux

[tardy mountain]

ive used netbsd on a wii

[vagrant meadow]

but their smp lagged behind a long time, and things got super heavy with threads etc

[tardy mountain]

i wanna buy a wii u

[storm willow]

I NEED TO PLAY THIS MOD IT LOOKS SO GOOOD

[chilly sigil]

netbsd is cool
i've used it on my desktop, even novideo worked fine

[warm venture]

Has their smp caught up yet

[vagrant meadow]

but ilke in 2001ish... it was a lot better as a desktop than linux, a lot more reliable, less memory usage, faster

[tardy mountain]

netbsd is awesome

[vagrant meadow]

well we were very ram starved back then, so using less memory could make things a lot faster

[noble geode]

I’ve used FreeBSD OpenBSD AND nomadBSD BUT I COULD not get NetBSD to work

[vagrant meadow]

freebsd corrupted my disk

that's how i first went to openbsd

[tardy mountain]

currently its the best working non-windows os on my laptop

[warm venture]

Friend has the 1 computer that can’t run NetBSD

[vagrant meadow]

i was surprised about the performance, i just wanted to not lose data!

[noble geode]

Linux?

[tardy mountain]

no proper support yet

[noble geode]

I feel like it was in a VM

[sweet tulip]

resistlib?

[noble geode]

Oh I guess that would still be problematic though

[tardy mountain]

it can boot and get a UI running but no way to interact with the laptop at all

[noble geode]

Ah

[vagrant meadow]

anyay what is this twitter thing about

[warm venture]

ON GOD IT IS

[noble geode]

wtf kind of laptop is it

[vagrant meadow]

i thought tiktok was the current controversial thing

[noble geode]

What about OmniOS?

[ornate scroll]

#announcements message

[vagrant meadow]

yeah i saw that, i just have no context?

[tardy mountain]

a very recent laptop with a snapdragon x plus lol

[ornate scroll]

people really dont like that elon musk did the funny thing

[warm venture]

Elon musk is a disciple of Adolf hitler so to provide a mild but cumulative punishment the idea is to ban twitter links

To reduce engagement to the site

[ornate scroll]

A LOT of reddit ... forms? are banning twitter links

[storm willow]

the very tippy top of this thread, the OP message, should give you a bit more context but in short, Elon Musk is a Nazi and some users here don't feel comfortable giving his website foot traffic by linking it here anymore

[vagrant meadow]

well elon to me is like the amazon guy

[warm venture]

No that’s Jeff bezos

[vagrant meadow]

they're just rich ignorant people trying to get accolade

at the expense of people

i mean i'm not keen on buying anything from amazon

[warm venture]

Me neither

[vagrant meadow]

nor twitter

[tardy mountain]

amazon at least provides a service to people

[warm venture]

They pulled out of the entire province of Quebec cause 1 tiny ass union formed in their warehouses

[tardy mountain]

twitter just provides hell

[warm venture]

If they don’t wanna work in Quebec I don’t want shit from them

[north thorn]

btw here's an image i found for y'all, use it wisely

[ornate scroll]

it was hell and for artist. now its just hell lol

[warm venture]

I never did in the first place. I always thought ordering from Amazon was like ordering from Temu it just doesn’t trigger people’s innate xenophobia

[tulip tiger]

We are not reddit! We can do better than this

[warm venture]

On god they need to revoke your image permissions

[sweet tulip]

isn't that like, everyone here (except not old)

[storm willow]

discord is literally just live chat reddit, we are no better than reddit. let us stoop to their level

[warm venture]

No bro

[sweet tulip]

are liberals not the left party of america

[warm venture]

They’re like very center left I guess

[tulip tiger]

Then we would be hypocritical to use discord while not using reddit 🙃

[warm venture]

They don’t really represent anyone who is to the left of Joe Biden

[storm willow]

they are to the left of the Republican conservative party yes, but they are not themselves the left party

[sweet tulip]

ah I see

[tulip tiger]

Are these bad?

[sweet tulip]

is there a more left party you vote for? or do you just have to do liberal because there's no one else

[warm venture]

Generally both republicans and democrats adhere to a general neoliberal philosophy with mild variances in social policy

[tardy mountain]

you do liberal unless you're fucking stupid and then you vote for a third party that will never win

[warm venture]

In the US the system is meant to provide choices through the primary system instead of allowing for more parties to be represented

We now see how this works out

[stark ruin]

Ehhh even then, that group had people who were antivax so like... slim pickings

[sweet tulip]

googles neo liberal

[stark ruin]

Ah yeah I did

[kindred hill]

ok

[warm venture]

Think Thatcher, Reagan… after the 80s basically all politicians were neoliberal with some detractors

[warm venture]

OK KO

[sweet tulip]

I'm not american so that makes it harder

in AU liberals are the right-er party lmao

labor is the left

[warm venture]

Friendlyjordies told me that

Some day they’ll be a liberal party down there

Heed my word

Yeah cause once you have UHC it would be political suicide to reverse it

[sweet tulip]

that "You" isn't me, it's from google images

but very strange that they're top left bttom right parties

[warm venture]

Tfw I am now a centrist

[sweet tulip]

I thought it was usually top right and bottom left

[tardy mountain]

i am very far left

:3

[warm venture]

Oh yeah? If you’re so left then why have you left your fridge running

[sweet tulip]

damn who went through the effort of making this lmao

[storm willow]

im gonna shower

[stark ruin]

Just goes to show how much it has to be their way or no way.

[warm venture]

Redditors

[chilly sigil]

that's not even its full version

[sweet tulip]

idk I just googled political compass and it was in the results

[chilly sigil]

i've seen much bigger one

[tulip tiger]

Goddamn

[warm venture]

This compass sucks it doesn’t even tell you where north is

[tardy mountain]

lmao

aight wait let me do the political compass test

[warm venture]

Well I guess Oliver North is on Fox News

[blissful mica]

No

[warm venture]

Yes

[frosty ferry]

According to this im a rightist what moron made this

[sweet tulip]

no idea lmao

I feel like the compass test had very weird wording which made some of them hard to answer

[warm venture]

Hitler: the socialists and capitalists both have some good points…hmm.. let me be rational about this

[frosty ferry]

Libs.. it was called the national SOCIALISTS

Owned..

[warm venture]

Honestly hive-mind collectivism kinda sounds 😤 🫦

[sweet tulip]

I need to relearn what each axis means

[frosty ferry]

The actual compass?

[tulip tiger]

Sometimes i want to be part of hive mind... but someone would need to do lobotomy, which is illegal in like 99% of countries

[frosty ferry]

The actual compass was made by a libertarian who has no fucking clue

[warm venture]

Well you wouldn’t be apart of a hive mind you’d just be handicapped

[sweet tulip]

so where does the social part come in? is that just another way to explain north/south?

[sweet tulip]

yeah

[warm venture]

You need at least like 50 or 60 maybe 70 axes

[tulip tiger]

Still better than knowing all horrors of human kind

[warm venture]

If you think about it LLM’s encode a political compass with like billions of axes for each token

[frosty ferry]

I think this thread was just a way for mods to sniff out nazis tbh

[warm venture]

Honest to god people were just randomly letting the mask slip over fucking twitter links

[tardy mountain]

who up

[frosty ferry]

What ideology r u lol

[tulip tiger]

Would that make LLM also the most professional politically radical racist?

[blissful mica]

Did the ban pass or is it still ongoing?

[warm venture]

Girl isn’t all the way left…you are a class traitor /j

[warm venture]

Like a couple more days left I think

[tardy mountain]

anarchist

[warm venture]

W

[tardy mountain]

🔥

[warm venture]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/399817358585364491/1332162030148259933/image.png?ex=67a0c652&is=679f74d2&hm=62df9a5a7805fdf53eed99bb47c20e43ae5f67aa2e2ad087a4b844051bf51bc3& I took one of those advanced tests a while ago

[sweet tulip]

ooh where can I do this one?

[warm venture]

I think it was like

Uhhhhh

[noble geode]

Uhhhhh is a good one

[warm venture]

https://politicaltests.github.io/12axes/

[warm venture]

No bully me ;-;

[sweet tulip]

good lord

[warm venture]

I did that one

[tardy mountain]

tbh i dont care about fucking political axes and shit i think we should slice politicians' heads off and let people fucking live

[warm venture]

I want to meddle in peoples business I was born and raised to be a bureaucrat

[frosty ferry]

Based

Im an individualist anarchist though

[tulip tiger]

😆 Well then /j

[ornate scroll]

ok i have to disagree with you there.

[tardy mountain]

i just wanna live unbothered in a cozy cabin in the middle of nowhere with my girlfriends gang is that so much to ask

[frosty ferry]

I like a compromise with stirners egoism and anarchist communism

[blissful mica]

Death threats are kind of yikes

[frosty ferry]

In this economy, yes

[warm venture]

It’s kinda yikes bro it’s not freaking wholesome… not even Keanu reeves breathtaking..

[tardy mountain]

ok lunduke

[tulip tiger]

Why do threats when one can just help them kick the calendar instead

[ornate scroll]

oh really? the political test is politically biased lol?

[tulip tiger]

🤣

[sweet tulip]

"Subdivisions should not be able to exempt from national laws." the heck does this mean

[blissful mica]

Sure they do

[warm venture]

So it’s like

[tulip tiger]

Let their wishes be reversed 😆

[sweet tulip]

let me rephrase.. what the heck is a subdivision

[warm venture]

If a province decides it doesn’t want to follow a federal law

[tardy mountain]

you literally joined in the last 2 hours dude how can you be so obvious

[warm venture]

Or a state

Or a county

[sweet tulip]

so they don't just mean like housing

[warm venture]

No

If we had that power I’d make it legal to drive drunk if I live in my house

[tulip tiger]

All sense and reasoning here is long gone, all sane ones left this convo lul

[tardy mountain]

nebraska is exempt from windows

[tardy mountain]

(please someone get what im referencing)

[warm venture]

If you could live in any house which house would you live in

[tardy mountain]

YESSSS

[blissful mica]

What?

[tardy mountain]

you are lunduke or one of his dicksuckers

[warm venture]

Girl how many computers

Exactly.

[noble geode]

You just know they’re gonna come in waves, the Nazis always do. They get together and raid places they don’t like or agree with to spread their filth.

[blissful mica]

I did see the youtube video yes So I stopped by the come and vote no

I should have expected.There would have been death threats against him and thats on me For not expecting that

[tardy mountain]

that's so fucking stupid

do i come to your house and tell you what you can or cannot do

[warm venture]

Is the lunduke video just “come join this server and make them not ban twitter links”

[noble geode]

The one that said communist Mario is sexualized

[sweet tulip]

who is lunduke anyway

[noble geode]

Someone ban this fool

[tardy mountain]

this except for real

[blissful mica]

I agree Expecting the unhinged left not To use death threats crazy I know right

[noble geode]

Maga alt right washed up YouTuber

[warm venture]

I honestly have no idea

[sweet tulip]

gross

[tardy mountain]

i am very hinged

i dont have an HP laptop

[noble geode]

@kindred hill

[noble geode]

Snapdragon though

[tardy mountain]

I HAVE HINGES OK

[blissful mica]

You're so unhinged the door that came With you is on another house

[tulip tiger]

Your mind has sprouted flower... that's how much soil in skull there is because goddamn that's a wrong video to start off any voting duties

[noble geode]

Still has to follow the rules and memes go in urandom

[warm venture]

It’s a meme Batman

[tardy mountain]

tbf it's a banger laptop other than being currently stuck on windows

[noble geode]

Right wingers anytime they see a rainbow flag just feel so left out and have to join and cause a ruckus

Pathetic 🙃

[sweet tulip]

did somebody say rainbow flags /s

just mocking them

[tulip tiger]

There's a reason why rainbow doesn't have gray

[tardy mountain]

who said i was joking <3

[warm venture]

Who at alpine was glazing openbsd so much

[blissful mica]

See

[sweet tulip]

ok politic peoples, what does "Economic globalism" mean

[warm venture]

The economy is global

[sweet tulip]

like, international trade?

[warm venture]

I guess I got no idea what that means

[blissful mica]

By the way.
Why is it specifically twitter getting targeted this time?

[warm venture]

Nobody knows

We just kinda pick a random site to ban every once in a while

[tardy mountain]

:3

[warm venture]

Thank the dice

[warm venture]

Before it was digg but that site died so it got a pity unban

[tardy mountain]

i think you should die, too! <333

[noble geode]

I imagine any sane community would prefer to not align with openly fascist platforms.

[blissful mica]

Well I don't really care about palestine

I do find it funny that you advocate for a country that hates you though

[tulip tiger]

🙃

[warm venture]

Bro WHAT IS THIS

[noble geode]

A chat for ants

[blissful mica]

Yeah but that's not what Twitter is

Oh I know.
You're mad about getting
Community noted all the time is that it?

[warm venture]

Do u always make up random things about people you don’t know

[blissful mica]

Don't you?

[tulip tiger]

kesbian liss

[warm venture]

Failure to answer a simple question

[noble geode]

I have never used twitter. But I certainly won’t in the future, they’ve lost half their profits since acquisition, Elon backdoored the fed and is a Nazi? Why would anyone with a brain use Twitter

[blissful mica]

He's not a nazi though

[noble geode]

His grandfather was a Nazi sympathizer, his parents are slave labor owners in Apartheid South Africa, he openly supports alt right nationalism, the AFD and saluted Hitler publically.

[blissful mica]

Sins of the father

[noble geode]

He’s purposely spreading misinformation

[blissful mica]

My father was Religious doesn't mean i'm religious

[warm venture]

Both are idiots however

[young kite]

what about freedom, just allowing people to do what they want. Not like you have to click twitter links.

[noble geode]

Accurate

[unique nymph]

sins of the father is a based mgs song

[tulip tiger]

They choose the path

[warm venture]

It’s the freedom of the server admins to block twitter links

[blissful mica]

Probably the most intelligent things said in this chat so far

[young kite]

lol thiank you, I think.

[blissful mica]

I agree nice hat

[noble geode]

Elon = dog whistles. Lunduke = dog whistles. Here comes the dogs

[tulip tiger]

Who let the dogs out /ref

[ornate scroll]

doing the 60 question 12 axes.... define wrong. morality is subjective but most people can agree on what is wrong. theres too much nuance for this question

"It is important that the government follows the majority opinion, even if it is wrong."

[warm venture]

Is it important

[noble geode]

The small one

[warm venture]

Yeah the small one will be pretty vague I think

So you have to do the big one

I like the sharia law question it’s kinda funny

[tulip tiger]

I used all my energy and time today for this convo, it was fun while it lasted, goodnight everyone

[ornate scroll]

oh hay im on economic globalism now

[warm venture]

Bood light

[noble geode]

The fuck are we looking at hoss?

[young kite]

Fuck yeah.

[noble geode]

Rule 1a

[young kite]

new one.

go

why am I maga? lol

[noble geode]

Did you come here from lunduke vid?

[young kite]

"look I came here because I support freedom over all else. You guys started playing tick tack toe on my forehead and talking nazis"

[young kite]

he talks funny, I cant listen to him long. no.

[kindred glade]

Are you against banning things in general?

[young kite]

yes.

most things, that do not hurt other people.

[blissful mica]

This is actually quite meme Worthy

[kindred glade]

What sort of things hurt other people? :)

Should I assume you're against so called "woke ideology" being taught in schools?

[young kite]

violence.

[blissful mica]

So guns?

[noble geode]

Twitter is full of violence