Ban all links to X/Twitter.

[foggy timber]

Real

[midnight sierra]

I’m sorry but is anyone going to call out how disrespectful it is to people actually persecuted by “actual” Nazis by saying Elon is a Nazi? That DRASTICALLY reduces and diminishes how bad and what “Nazi” actually means and represents!

[proper bridge]

How do you think he's not a nazi after all he's done, answer me :P

[twilit wharf]

This is the most interesting conversation I've ever watched in my 20 years of life...

[agile heart]

because it doesn't make sense.. it doesn't past the smell test

[dull sluice]

Two back to back salutes, telling the German far right party that they should be proud of their past, pushing pro nazi memes - not enough proof got it

[proper bridge]

how exactly?

[dull sluice]

Good to know I’m not dealing with reasonable people

[outer python]

i feel like those people actually are the most vocal about it

[agile heart]

the dude makes electric cars, sends rockets into space.. buys a communication platform.. hes not out there rounding up jews and sending them to concentration camps

[outer python]

nazi ideology extends past just the holocaust

[agile heart]

calling him a nazi is ridiculous... i've never seen him attend a rally.. he doesn't put swastikas all over his house.. he doesn't pledge his allegience to hitler

[midnight sierra]

@agile heart agreed… my point was basically the same. #1332789056068780083 message

[foggy timber]

That's Hakenkreuz not Swastika

[outer python]

“well he isnt directly killing jews or throwing up symbols, so dont compare him to a nazi”

[proper bridge]

This :P

[dull sluice]

Open the schools bro

Teach history again please

[outer python]

regardless, even though the dude does terrible things and has terrible ideology, banning twitter URLs doesnt really do anything

[twilit wharf]

I'm not even here to leave an opinion or start a debate with anyone. This currently beats shorts/reels level of entertainment.

[foggy timber]

Btw you should ban links to NASA too

[outer python]

just adds friction for members here, we’re all nothing to the machine anyway

[proper bridge]

it makes the nazi platform get less traffic, and if everyone does it, it'll help send the message that being a nazi is bad :P

[proper bridge]

flat earther?

[midnight sierra]

I mean calling Elon a Nazi greatly diminishes how bad the nazis actually were. Regardless what you think about Elon, he is not comparable to what the Nazis did.

[foggy timber]

NASA is built by the Nazis. The real Nazis.

[outer python]

he got the message, he doesnt care because $$$

[outer python]

i think that its simply calling out the behavior we should be condemning

[foggy timber]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

[proper bridge]

I'm guessing flat earther then

[midnight sierra]

Agreed

[outer python]

we all know he isnt a 1:1 nazi

that isnt the idea by saying “nazi”

and even then, many nazis were just regular ass people

its was a political party, your joe schmo guy was totally part of it back then

so yeah you dont have to be directly responsible for committing heinous acts to be a literal nazi

and again, regardless of all that, i still dont think twitter links should be banned

its pointless friction for the user without any upside besides sending a message that nobody will receive

[proper bridge]

what in the world

[midnight sierra]

Yes that is fair. So if someone posts a tweet in here of Elon saying something bad, then that should be removed. But to ban an entire medium of communication because of the CEO of the company, that just seems counter productive.

In all reality all it does is hurt this community as there is value in much of the good stuff on twitter that relates to tech. And we are throwing that away to make a point (that realistically won’t move any needle).

[agile heart]

as long as we're banning twitter links.. we should start burning books as well 😉

[outer python]

i elaborate in the next message, poor wording

[foggy timber]

It's high time Americans realise it's not left vs right it's "Rich vs Poor/Middle class" the party you support doesn't care about you and only uses you as a vote bank,
And they divide you into left or right so you all can't unite and stand against them

[proper bridge]

being anti-nazi isn't the same as book burning :3

[outer python]

absolutely 100%

but i think we know that

[elfin marlin]

This guy gets it

[agile heart]

this is based on the fundamentally flawed assertion that twitter is a nazi platform.. it simply isn't, and you should probably do some fact checking to verify this

[foggy timber]

You won't believe how many people don't know that

[proper bridge]

Yes, though saying nazis are bad and should be punished for be nazis shouldn't make for such an argument :P

[outer python]

i mean twitter is just twitter, its owned by a nazi

where is the line?

do we not use nazi technology?

[elfin marlin]

There are good and bad twitter posts, that doesn't necessarily mean twitter is inherently bad

[proper bridge]

we should not use tech that's being controlled by nazis, especially social media :P

[outer python]

twitter as a platform is just a platform, it isnt a dedicated hate place

[midnight sierra]

So what is next? Will IP addresses coming from Starlink be blocked? I have friends who have no choice but to use Starlink where they live.

Or do we start blocking our friends and coworkers who drive a Tesla?

Do we decline payments sent to us via PayPal?

Where does the line get drawn?

[foggy timber]

Exactly for some reason the left media has convinced the lefts that everything Elon should be banned

[outer python]

thats your choice, i support it, i also dont use twitter

dont force it on others

[proper bridge]

The site is inherently bad, it's ran by a nazi, not all people on twitter are bad, but we should make it so it dies sooner rather than later by not supporting the nazi platform :P

[agile heart]

oh i see .. twitter is bad, because it allows opinions you dont like

[proper bridge]

It's up to the owner of the server, it's their server after all :P

[elfin marlin]

I personally quitted twitter months before elon is in charge and I do not plan to return to using it

[outer python]

sure, but thats what this whole debate is about

[proper bridge]

It's ran by a litteral nazi lol

[proper bridge]

Nazism is bad

[foggy timber]

Believing twitter is gonna die is believing Kamala will win the next election, cope

[proper bridge]

Letting a nazi control the flow of information is a really bad thing

[agile heart]

to me a literal nazi doesn't exist .. thats a concept that died after world war 2.. there may be a small handful of people who profess to have that ideology.. but they are totally not relevant, and don't exist within any social circles that im aware of.. just fruitcakes basically

[foggy timber]

Twitter ain't gonna die whether you like it or not simply because of porn

[outer python]

controlling the flow of information is a bad thing in general

lets not do that

[proper bridge]

so, lets ban twitter from this server

We don't have to platform the nazi website :P

[foggy timber]

Mathium is a trool btw, the sooner you block the better it is

[rose nebula]

and letting twitter thrive is like not voting because kamala somehow wasn't good enough

[prisma ether]

Oh good lawd it's hot in here

[proper bridge]

Says the person trying to defend the nazi website :P

[outer python]

so lets protest the controlling of information by a nazi… by controlling the flow of information—but we’re the good guys i swear

[elfin marlin]

I mean complete removal of censorship would be quite detrimental in theory as it would allow things you don't want to see to seep in your daily feed

Stuff like extreme gore, cp and the likes

[outer python]

yes i agree

[proper bridge]

"hey should be publish this thing made by a nazi?" "no" "but wouldn't that be discrimination against nazis?"

[foggy timber]

No one was good enough lmao,
Whether you voted red or blue it doesn't matter at the end only the rich will benefit and Americans will suffer

[prisma ether]

Ok so if Elon controlled what was on Twitter then why can I find so many posts ON TWITTER calling him a Nazi? Why haven't they been removed?

[outer python]

so a tweet by an artist is created by a nazi?

[elfin marlin]

Elon takes pride in those posts

[outer python]

just because some guy spent money he didnt have to legally own the medium it was sent through?

[proper bridge]

The website itself is nazi-owned, we should not publish that website

[elfin marlin]

He craves attention

[outer python]

if it were nazi editorial, sure

like lets just look at the actual effects of this proposal

nothing really happens?

[proper bridge]

How do you propose we deal with the nazi, by supporting his platform or banning it?

[outer python]

no dealing is required, we arent even interacting with the loser

[twilit wharf]

I'm just here for the show; sippin on coffee rn...

[midnight sierra]

It feels like @proper bridge is just trying to get high score for the number of times Nazi is written.

[outer python]

allowing content from a platform he happens to own to be shared here is not remotely close to support and you know it

[proper bridge]

"let the nazi have control, trust me, no big deal :P"

[foggy timber]

Obama won the peace prize after bombing millions, not a surprise

[proper bridge]

we're talking about nazism, it's gonna be said :P

[outer python]

ah so he controls the server now?

didnt know that it was that viral

[elfin marlin]

I could not be bothered enough to do research on elon musk because even before the controversies I already don't give a damn, but since the world hates elon so much, guess what let's roll with it

[proper bridge]

Letting the nazi control the flow of information, please have some memory or something :P

[foggy timber]

The sooner you block the better it is

[midnight sierra]

Wait I can do that? Haha

[prisma ether]

Yeah kinda just watching, we all know it's no use arguing with people online in the end. I will respect that people believe he is a Nazi, but I do not agree with them. I don't like Elon for the record, I just don't think Nazis exist anymore

[outer python]

i dont need to argue a point i already stated not that long ago, so this retort is ironic

[rose nebula]

the whole point of the ban is to encourage people to move away from the nazi-owned platform. I don't see how that can be a bad thing

[proper bridge]

he's a straight up nazi lol

[outer python]

because it wont

[prisma ether]

Mhmm sure honey 😘

[proper bridge]

You think that the right is telling you the truth :P

And that the nazi isn't a nazi

[outer python]

no?

[proper bridge]

wait

[midnight sierra]

Oh wow I didn’t know you could do that on discord!! Thanks a lot!! Haha.

[silent moon]

sora984 received a thank you cookie!

[outer python]

did i say anything about the right?

[proper bridge]

other person, sorry :P

[outer python]

okay

[proper bridge]

We should not support elon, end of :P

[foggy timber]

Because the media uses "Nazi" where they see it fit.

They didn't call Netanyahu a Nazi even though HE BOMBED children and women?

[outer python]

i disagree that its supporting him

[proper bridge]

as elon is a nazi

[proper bridge]

letting his platform exist on ours is supporting him

[outer python]

not really

[west quiver]

Is it more fun watching this or my toilet, hmmmmm

[outer python]

yes

[proper bridge]

I don't know why I'm arguing this anymore, it's gonna be banned

[rose nebula]

remind me, when did netanyahu perform the nazi salute, twice? he's obviously a piece of shit but not all evil people are nazis

[outer python]

why not!

[midnight sierra]

It is bad because no matter what you or I or anyone feels, “Nazi owned platform” is subjective. Where is the line drawn with what some people like or don’t like enough to block everyone from a community to using something.

[outer python]

i mean “nazi platform” is a stretch

[proper bridge]

it's gonna be banned, and I don't need to listen to people try to support the nazi platform :P

[outer python]

like we should ban kiwifarms before we ban twitter

[foggy timber]

Meta before that

[rose nebula]

has anyone ever linked to kiwifarms on this server?

[outer python]

you’re just showing the chat that you arent really willing to argue cleanly

[elfin marlin]

Unless twitter is explicitly used to spread or promote nazism I don't think we should really ban twitter regardless of whos in charge

[prisma ether]

Anybody who has shown support for Twitter in this thread should be BANNED

[outer python]

no clue but that would be a BRAVE choice

[foggy timber]

Ikr

[proper bridge]

No, I am arguing clearly, then being ignored and strawmanned

[prisma ether]

Everyone who supports keeping X should be banned

They are all Nazis
Ban them all

[midnight sierra]

I hope you are joking

[prisma ether]

They aren't human cause they use X, ban them

[outer python]

“i’m getting my way so i’m not listening to you anymore”

[foggy timber]

Ah this is satire

[prisma ether]

Exactly!

[proper bridge]

no, but this thread could show who's a little but much nazi leaning to continue being in this server :P

[foggy timber]

Took me few seconds to realise

[outer python]

damn “nazi leaning” is CRAZY

[proper bridge]

No, y'all aren't listening and just saying, nuh-uh

[prisma ether]

They are dangerous ticking time bombs and should be banned immediately

[proper bridge]

not you, there've been a few people who've been a bit supportive of nazism :P

[agile heart]

seriously? lol.. 🍿

[proper bridge]

I don't think anyone currently chatting is guilty of quite this

[twilit wharf]

I mean, "all" is a bit of an overstatement, otherwise we wouldn't have this discord thread lol...

[prisma ether]

Like me, I totally said Nazism was good somewhere in there probably idfk

[outer python]

welp guess i gotta buy the armband for… *checks notes*… allowing text that some random person wrote to appear in this server… because it happens to have been posted on a platform that happens to be owned by a shitstain nazi

[noble geode]

This is still going dude 💀

[prisma ether]

I just think anyone who disagrees and lose the vote should be banned because obviously we don't want Nazi supporters in this server

[outer python]

even though the content of the actual thing posted can be legitimately ANYTHING

[proper bridge]

I said not you, as in you're not guilty of this as far as I'm aware

[foggy timber]

I think we should also change the server Icon to something more Anti-Nazi

[prisma ether]

Like a Jewish flag?

[outer python]

beat nazis at their own game by making them the persecuted group

[proper bridge]

it's a litteral pride flag lol

[proper bridge]

that is already anti-nazi :P

[foggy timber]

Get that Arch logo off, FOSS is politics, Arch is politics, Arch is left we don't want anyone who even remotely thinks the right supporting people are human

(This is satire please don't ban me),

[foggy timber]

Yes

[prisma ether]

We can be even more anti-nazi than that

[outer python]

what do the 9front people do

[foggy timber]

An eye for eye, camps for camps!

[elfin marlin]

When the oppressor becomes the oppressed

[proper bridge]

being anti-nazi isn't bad lol

[elfin marlin]

The cat becomes the mouse

[prisma ether]

God man if I could have one Linux server where it doesn't become drama or people getting banned for saying the Latin language is hard to understand

[outer python]

i agree

[proper bridge]

and not platforming a nazi platform isn't pursicuting them

[outer python]

i mean you did opt to go into the obviously politically-charged thread

[outer python]

i also agree

but its also just... pointless

[proper bridge]

It's called not supporting nazis :P

[outer python]

like i'm not arguing the ideology i just think it's a pointless move that nobody will notice except for users who did nothing wrong posting links here

[proper bridge]

we should make it clear that there are very clear social reprecutions to being a nazi

[prisma ether]

Yes

And you still fail to realize not everyone believes Elon is a Nazi

I still don't like the guy but I think it's silly to say he's a Nazi, people literally just started saying that after his hand gesture cause they don't like him, it's group speak and I still think actual Nazis are all dead. If you think he's such a bad guy please at least source your reasons instead of just calling him a names

[outer python]

dude is blasted by the news every day i think some unknown arch server isn't going to send a message that isn't already sent

[prisma ether]

Very true

[proper bridge]

If you don't think he's a nazi, you're crazy

[prisma ether]

I'm bored and need a distraction

[outer python]

so true

[wind granite]

I can't really keep up with the discussion, but I'll make a few things clear about my stance. I don't think a supermajority should decide either, I think more emphasis should be on marginalized voices directly effected by the choice of banning X links. I don't like being on X, I'm a vulnerable person existing on a platform currently run by bigots for bigots. It's awful. I don't know how much impact banning X links here will have and whether screenshots are an acceptable compromise. If this place was already more supportive of the disabled (like if we were allowed to share crowdfunds here or relevant news, or find community here) I'd be more against a ban on X links. But as it stands, like, there's no explicit support. So there's not much for me to fight for.

And for all those disputing whether Nazis exist or a something to be taken seriously, I am not on your side. I have nothing to gain from your support of my arguments. My only interest in X are the marginalized communities still there. Y'all those pushing for a ban treat it like it's Truth social, which began as a explicitly right wing/Nazi platform and doesn't have marginalized communities on it.

[proper bridge]

"it's just one vote, why should I vote at all, it doesn't really matter"

[twilit wharf]

I don't really care about what goes on in this server. Honestly forget I was in it until I got the announcement ping.

[outer python]

well nobody is even counting the votes so yeah it doesn't matter

this little microcosm of the internet will forever be unknown to the man himself

[prisma ether]

Site your source. How was the salute he gave a Nazi salute while the ones anyone else has given in the past, Republican or Democrat, not a Nazi salute?

How is he different? What makes him a Nazi, and not just a bad person?

Bad person =/= Nazi

[proper bridge]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hQUF12oO4N2NzqRc7isa9JXVm1vjyi84Oa-8_8qRmTI/edit?tab=t.0

[outer python]

i'm not saying this makes him a nazi per-say, but i did find it really funny
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276084/elon-musk-german-far-right-afd-holocaust

[midnight sierra]

I’m going to be completely honest, it makes me question being part of a community that will make decisions like this. I certainly don’t agree with a lot of what Elon does or says, but to ban an important form of communication because of its CEO… just feels like a slippery slope that I don’t necessarily want to be a part of.

[proper bridge]

(sources from a video that explains how he's a nazi, idk why it's a google doc :P)

[outer python]

ngl google doc is much more digestible, i appreciate it being in text

[proper bridge]

banning nazis isn't some sort of slipery slope :P

[outer python]

is elon on this server?

[proper bridge]

If you disagree with this you can do the same thing that you think we should do to twitter :3

[lament helm]

banning twitter != banning nazis because most twitter content people post in here is not nazi-esque

[proper bridge]

not address it and move on apparently

[outer python]

i encourage banning nazis

where are the nazis

[foggy timber]

Banning an international social media platform because it supposedly promotes ideologies you don't align with is like silencing your opposition party because you don't agree with them and think it's harmful for the people...... Let people make their own decisions by viewing content from both sides instead of restricting content from one side

[proper bridge]

The platform is ran by a nazi :P

[lucid jackal]

"are the nazis in the room with us?"

[outer python]

a nazi designed my car, i still love that thing

[lucid jackal]

wha

[outer python]

i drive a really old BMW

[proper bridge]

Look, if you think nazism is a "difference of opinion" or a "different idioligy" that's somehow valid, feel free to leave, we don't want you here :P

People aren't banned from going to twitter

[outer python]

why are we equating twitter to elon musk himself

[lament helm]

and? does twitter cause nazi-ism in this server? the answer is no, so banning twitter is counter-productive

[proper bridge]

We just will not let people use this platform to platform twitter :P

[foggy timber]

Left propaganda

[lucid jackal]

there's more nazi talk today than there was in the last year in this server I bet 😂

[midnight sierra]

Well said

[west quiver]

Oh look, a wall without my head in it.

Lemme fix that.

[noble geode]

Banning twiiter/X would be against freedom of speech

[proper bridge]

If you don't like the solution and it gets implemented, do the same thing you'd do for twitter :3

[proper bridge]

and you're an idiot for saying that

[lament helm]

what does this even mean

[outer python]

why is your opinion so black and white

[noble geode]

And guess what idc about ur opinion that’s freedom of speech

[proper bridge]

cause that's not how freedom of speech works at all :P

[lucid jackal]

it may be inaccurate however calling them an idiot prob isn't helpful

[proper bridge]

It's protection from the government

[outer python]

god i wish we actually had this in practice in the U.S.

[foggy timber]

C'mon man get a clue, it's a troll

[outer python]

i give people the benefit of the doubt to a fault unfortunately

except elon musk fuck that guy

[proper bridge]

"well, twitter is ran by a nazi and we shouldn't do anything, but this server banning it for that, that's really crossing a line"

[west quiver]

They're not a troll

[outer python]

we cant do anything

[noble geode]

Right idk from where that came from they didn’t have any good argument to make against so they went with idiot

That’s reality

[foggy timber]

I have already made my opinion

[lament helm]

twitter is ran by a nazi, maybe, but you can't really do anything about it

[lament helm]

wtf is a "filthy spiral slut"

[proper bridge]

So, if you don't like this change don't do anything about it, like you wanna do with twitter :3

[lucid jackal]

they were right though, freedom of speech, unfortunately is a moot point in a Discord server

[outer python]

idk i just think that the world is not so absoute and we can't frame all our decision-making and moral compass on that perception of the world

[proper bridge]

Just ignore and justify it :3

[lament helm]

how does this argument even make any sense

[west quiver]

I'm being silly with the fact that the Debian logo is a spiral and the Jungle Book made me feel things.

[lucid jackal]

what

[proper bridge]

If you think that twitter is to be done nothing about for being ran by a nazi, a discord server that bans it should have less of a reaction, correct?

[onyx halo]

why would banning twitter restrict freedom of speech you could just type the post into the chat it’s not like it’s the government knocking down ur door if u can’t post twitter link

[prisma ether]

Ok so bridge collapses, some people blame it on DEI and illegal immigrants workers on Twitter, which are not comments by Elon himself, and then he agrees about a joke about sueing someone for eluding to him being a Nazi on live television, and saying Hitler was far right and Elon is far right.

Yeah I'm not seeing it. Also though the people saying that bridge collapsed cause of DEI is pretty stupid

[outer python]

can this thread be horny i think the juxtaposition of that would be hilarous when people click on it to argue

like how r/animetitties was a world news subreddit

[sly tundra]

why does EVERYONE get their hypno kinks from that fucking snake i HATE IT.

Efadd|filthy spiral slut(Debian) ↩️

[Reply to:](#1332789056068780083 message) I'm being silly with the fact that the Debian logo is a spiral and the Jungle Book made me feel thin…

[wind granite]

We shouldn't be here debating if EM is a Nazi (he is), it's not the point of this thread. Is there a moderator around who can settle this? Surely if the mod team is considering banning X, they understand who musk is and can give a statement that this isn't up for debate here.

[lament helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/988895088434360393/1320891904745017364/GeG5tQVWEAADl9b.gif?ex=679ffbf3&is=679eaa73&hm=707bca0e30310a930487b28a28f48ed2d63879d7faebb66c385e6caced9fa4b1&

[noble geode]

twitter is invaded by fucking onlyfans girls and porn bots, why should we allow it

[sly tundra]

this isn't even judgement of the feeling it's judgement of that damn SCALE TUBE OF ANNOYANCE.

[prisma ether]

The staff team knows better than everyone here

Please everyone shut up and listen to your gods

[outer python]

i dont even think it matters that he's a nazi, it's just like blowing up the whole block because one of the houses there is nazi-owned

[lucid jackal]

sounds like you want it to stay available
/j

[lament helm]

^^^

[west quiver]

And then Kane Chronicles with borderline possession by gods, also the snake started it. Very did not end there.

[outer python]

your NTSC tag thing is AWESOME

[noble geode]

thanks

[silent moon]

cyckl received a thank you cookie!

[lucid jackal]

I want one :<

[proper bridge]

imagine if a local buisness was being ran by someone and it got sold to a nazi that started to decorate the buisness in nazi stuff then places started banning invites for said buisness, this is what's happening

[lament helm]

i'm not saying nothing should be done about twitter. something absolutely should be done, but there's really not much anyone can do, and bannig it from this discord server really won't change anything either.

[prisma ether]

Oh but you see that would be totally 100% worth it

[outer python]

i disagree, twitter is still exactly the same

[midnight sierra]

I can’t really spend anymore time on this. But at the end of the day my best argument against the ban is this simple question:

will banning twitter/x links on this server directly help or hurt the usefulness of this server?

I would say it hurts it. There is a lot of good tech content on twitter that will no longer be allowed.

[proper bridge]

if everyone does it, it will make an impact, and a lot of places are doing it

[prisma ether]

Also people are gonna keep using Twitter even if it gets banned here

This ban literally just effects the ability to share content here

[mild sentinel]

Omg this is still continuing👁️👄👁️
I had my sleep and woke up already lol

[noble geode]

Do u guys know nazi is for political party which used to exit and is non existence now so I don’t understand how twitter is being ran by a Nazi like tf he just did heart to crowd sign so what many many people have done it and nobody give f about them why? 🤔

[proper bridge]

it very much is not, the nazi controls the information lol

[onyx halo]

you’re not blowing up elons house by blocking twitter links 😭

[lament helm]

we all know that this isn't happening

[outer python]

local business got sold to a nazi, local business stays exactly the same except the nazi runs it a little worse because he's stupid

[outer python]

its an analogy come on

[prisma ether]

Sadly 😔

[outer python]

yeah if we could blow his house up by banning the links i'd be 100% in support

[proper bridge]

And it's very clear on the inside that it's ran by a nazi, and the owner hangs out there and talks like a nazi

[lament helm]

same ong

[proper bridge]

I'm in several communities that have banned it :P

[noble geode]

Right here is probably lower than 1k people on twitter idk how is that gonna affect anything if at all 💀 this thread and that poll is like arch Linux runs the world

[proper bridge]

And a lot of reddit communities are bannig it

[outer python]

except its a massive building so hes easy to ignore and some of your cool friends also meet there

[prisma ether]

Yeah Reddit is kinda sucky rn

[lament helm]

cool, but take a look at the amount of people who are not nazis/(anything bad) still on twitter

[wind granite]

A local business is a poor comparison. It's much closer to a city. The effects of the choice are different, the scale is different, the presence of marginalized people makes this different.

[prisma ether]

Just an echo chamber

[onyx halo]

arch linux does run the world smh

[twilit wharf]

I personally like japenese vehicles. They can take a lot of abuse and they're much cheaper to repair than other manufacturers.

[outer python]

yeah this is a much better comparison

[prisma ether]

You can't have discussion anymore you just get downvote to oblivion for wrong thought

[outer python]

you're 100% right. i still like my car

[noble geode]

Imaginary world

[proper bridge]

how exactly is twitter a city, people aren't bound there, it's somewhere where people have to willingly enter

[outer python]

i'm a masochist for car problems

[proper bridge]

It's still ran by a nazi lol, and is becoming more nazi over time

[proper bridge]

*Complex, arch tests stuff so there's a little bit of real number in there

[prisma ether]

Yeah you see the only thing I like about Elon is the push he's made with his companies in the engineering world. The reusable rocket boosters are actually great for the environment irc

[outer python]

people willingly enter... similar to moving to a city

[prisma ether]

Everyone still using Twitter will become Nazis

[proper bridge]

people don't live in twitter and aren't tied to twitter

[proper bridge]

No, people who aren't nazis will leave

[lucid jackal]

I'm an Arch shill and even I know RHeL and Debian (+ their derivatives) run the world

[outer python]

idk if you ask me it seems like people ARE tied to twitter and people do live there

[foggy timber]

The X logo is the new Nazi Hakenkreuz

[proper bridge]

So it'll end up being like 4chan/8chan people who are not nazis or ok with nazis will leave

[lucid jackal]

incorrect

[proper bridge]

how?

[outer python]

the network effect?

[noble geode]

I don’t think, if they are still on twitter after Elon accusation they will stay

[prisma ether]

Idk this convo is dumb, bye
I'm just tired of going in circles

[proper bridge]

the platform has been dying, people have been moving the bluesky for a while now, this'll just accelirate the move

[outer python]

i wish everyone moved to bluesky, atproto is cool af

[lucid jackal]

I don't know a single person on bluesky except Foone 😭

I miss Foone's posts ngl

[proper bridge]

I'd prefer if everyone moved to mastodon, but bluesky is better than twitter

[foggy timber]

You all still buy Nestle products even after the Company indirectly killed hundreds of African children and exploited their parents for money.

[prisma ether]

All I'm gonna say is love your fellow human as best you can, and be a light in the world when others won't. There's your positivity for the day.

Love you all

[outer python]

and i hate nestle and i still buy their stuff :(

[narrow magnet]

The accusations against Twitter are wayyy overblown imo

[noble geode]

Oh is it well so idk like if banning twitter which very small set of users use is worth banning is it? Like after it’s not used by mass acc to you

[proper bridge]

I infact don't buy those products

[outer python]

i love you too

[twilit wharf]

My older brother has a Tesla Model S. It's got snappy response time which is probably one of the only things I like about electric cars.

[outer python]

instant torque is so underrated

[foggy timber]

Double standards

[proper bridge]

Let's ban the nazi ran platform

[outer python]

nah i just can't be assed to care THAT much

[lucid jackal]

-# hybrids are underrated

[outer python]

i need to pick and choose my battles

[outer python]

too bad i can't deal with new cars—i wanna do an electric swap or something but battery tech still isn't all there yet

[proper bridge]

then don't care about the ban :P

[outer python]

i wish i had a good retort but i don't really know how to just because of how unrelated those two things are

[wind granite]

I already argued that people can be bound there. Marginalized people can't just up and leave their communities and often rely on their communities to get by. To get news, to make a living. And in the currentb political climate the marginalized people on Twitter are excluded by pretty much everyone, both left and right, rich and poor, queer or straight. It's largely disabled Black queer people being left behind. And some of us who share some of those marginalization are included.

However my comparison to a city wasn't to argue about being bound to Twitter. Just about people's relationship to Twitter.

[outer python]

yep! network effect. it's a bitch

[proper bridge]

Marginalized people have to leave, it's being ran by a litteral nazi lol

[outer python]

i have a FACEBOOK account like an IDIOT because i like marketplace

[narrow magnet]

Is the nazi accusation because musk had his arm at a certain position?

[outer python]

probably a good chunk of it

[noble geode]

Yeahhh that’s it lmfao

[narrow magnet]

Because most other politicians (including those in the democrat party) had their arm at the same position

[proper bridge]

he's been called a nazi for a long time due to agreeing that hitler was right, and denying the halicaust, but that event has gotten everyones attention and talking about it

[noble geode]

There are multiple instances of stars and politicians doing that arm gesture so idk

[narrow magnet]

So you'd have to call Biden a nazi too

[outer python]

and the whole "if trump nazi, and elon supports trump, then elon nazi" which is actually a pretty good assessment and i don't disagree with it

[proper bridge]

lets see the motion of that arm possition and if it was a nazi solute :3

[outer python]

bet

[noble geode]

Yeah right literally there are many pics lmao

[outer python]

you think i only hate american right wingers? nah. i hate the entire establishment

[foggy timber]

Being in an Arch server with a Facebook account is diabolical.

[proper bridge]

Lets show videos of them doing a nazi solute if it's so common :3

[outer python]

i can buy cheap car parts

[narrow magnet]

And the media outlets didn't give a care about that arm position until musk showed up. Very peculiar

[proper bridge]

Oh right, they don't do it, it's still frames of their arms going through the possition being used by people who wanna justify elon being a nazi

[outer python]

if they didn't fuck the media too imo

[proper bridge]

show a video of someone else doing a solute :3

[noble geode]

Right literally so stupid that’s why not worth trusting media it’s fake

[twilit wharf]

2002 Honda Acord was the first vehicle that I ever drove.

Thing was a rust bucket on the verge of self-destruction, but damn was that thing snappy.

I miss back when cars used the cable system for peddles.

[outer python]

omg i have a mechanical throttle its awesome but it's a little sticky because all the bushings are worn out

[proper bridge]

as a still frame is not enough to determine if it's a solute lol

[narrow magnet]

So it seems like it's solely politically motivated rather than having any genuine certain for other people

[uneven grove]

I mean, he did it in such a blatant way, it was obviously meant to trigger/offend

[west quiver]

Love, not everyone can jump ship quickly for something newer. For any number of reasons

[proper bridge]

It's almost like people who're doing this want to make the nazi seem like not a nazi

[wind granite]

Having to leave doesn't magically make it so we can. With what support? Leave to where? Why would we spend the energy to leave just to go to other platforms where most people hate us?

And you talk like other platforms are a clear win, they're not. Mastodon has a history of being very white, discussing racism there sucks. Blue sky has ppl of all political walks blocking poor people crowdfunding.

[proper bridge]

elons gonna ban them anyways :P

[outer python]

i mean any criticism is politically motivated just because we support our camp and we tear down the other side

[narrow magnet]

This is a wiki about arch Linux lol

What does arch have to do with politics and saving america?

[noble geode]

Like for a person to be Nazi they would show more than just a salute which is def not the case here I don’t see a SINGLE instance of such behaviour he is very loyal about America

[outer python]

i mean personally i go about most of my days without touching politics

but occasionally its fun to indulge

[proper bridge]

you do relize that FOSS is political, right and a lot of people in this server are lgbtq+ including the owner

[outer python]

(and yes i read the news and vote i'm not disinterested)

[proper bridge]

why jump in about the nazi platform being banned then lol, seems like a poor jump in point imo

[narrow magnet]

Twitter is still a huge resource and platform though, and isn't all just right wing pundits

[outer python]

fun

[mild sentinel]

I undid my vote from no to yes. Why? because I am queer myself and while it's still maybe wrong to "cancel" him for my own personal motives (like him being transphobic and I don't like him as a person) I think there should be something for me to fight him against and that is cancelling him whenever I can.

I once had the same feeling to islam as well. I used to defend unnecessary islamophobia but then what would happen if islam becomes the major religion? They would ban all lgbtq and remove women rights etc.

While it might not "correct" to cancel him for my own personal gains, I think by not cancelling him he would grow more and more to de-validate my own interests as well.

[west quiver]

Good for you, congratulations on not having people you know scared shitless over getting a passport in order.

[outer python]

i'm mexican i know plenty of people scared shitless

i'm at a non-zero risk myself

[proper bridge]

I will say that there's a differnce between deffending islam and calling out hate against the people within the religion, like all religions, not all people within are the same

[noble geode]

Crazy that persons whole lives will be changed to nazi just for such arm gesture Nazi party was not just based on that salute just so u know they did muchhhhhh more shit that’s what they based on arm gesture don’t make someone Nazi

[outer python]

i have friends already moving to europe, i'm definitely worried about my trans friends and their access to care and representation

[proper bridge]

He didn't just do that solute lol

[noble geode]

Oh what else he did?

[mild sentinel]

I am Christian myself, so idk how the religion works. I try to defend common elements like women rights but islam straight deny that. While it's on that, it's extremely hard to defend islamophobia coz people tend to keep women's rights as arguments and call it an evil book 🤷🏻‍♀️

[uneven grove]

And it's working, half the people on the internet are getting triggered, not because of the salute, but because Elon holds opposite opinions to them while not expressing any sort of anti-semitism

Don't get me wrong, Elon has doubled down on so much stupid shit in the past, but from there to qualifying him a nazi is jumping the gun

[proper bridge]

He's agreed with someone who was explaining why hitler was right, reposted halicaust denial with affirming comments, said "it's ok to be proud to be german" to the modern equivlent of the nazi party there, etc

[outer python]

damnh the fact that the ADL said musk didn't do a salute is just more justification that the ADL sucks at their own mission

[outer python]

i qualify him as a nazi just through his political behavior

[uneven grove]

That's not national socialism that's fascism then

Anti-semitism is inherently linked with nazism

[outer python]

nazis were fascists—the literal name is irrelevant

[proper bridge]

christainity isn't immune from the same thing, look at the middle ages, or even look at the current state of christain nationalism in the USA, of course sects that are regressive or seek to oppress should be critisized, but religions aren't monoliths

[uneven grove]

🤨

[outer python]

its like those anti-abortion PACs that name themselves really weird things like pro-family or whatever

[noble geode]

Would u mind pulling up that tweet ss

[outer python]

nazi means "national socialism" but they definitely weren't national socialists

[proper bridge]

like the bible has a lot of stuff that people use to justify hate against lgbtq+ people, racism, slavery, and oppressing women

[uneven grove]

That's still how we refer to their ideal to this day though

[outer python]

because it was what they were known by

[uneven grove]

As you said, name doesn't matter

[twilit wharf]

Nice.

Welp, my coffee is gone now.

Gonna go play some Marvel Rivals.

[outer python]

enjoy!!!

[proper bridge]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1724908287471272299

Elon Musk (@elonmusk) on X

@breakingbaht @CWBOCA You have said the actual truth

X · Nov 15, 2023, 9:52 PM

[outer python]

i mean this was pretty funny https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276084/elon-musk-german-far-right-afd-holocaust

but NPR is a tad left-leaning

[mild sentinel]

Christianity is a lot progressive than islam tho, idk about jewish but the mainline Christianity is a lot liberal to lgbtq and women rights . Sure it does talk abt slavery and homosexuality but the new testament is a lot progressive and straight bans a lot of unnecessary parts in old Testament

[outer python]

christianity was surprisingly progressive in my opinion its just evangelicals that kinda distort the actual biblical teachings

[lucid jackal]

that's... quite a take

[outer python]

jesus was progressive as shit

[lucid jackal]

well depending on how you define progressive I guess

[proper bridge]

not really, islam just has the current theocrasies so looks more regressive, but christanity isn't that great either if you just look at the bible, of course the holy book doesn't define the relgion though

[lucid jackal]

but if it's how people usually define it then uh

[proper bridge]

or christains would be pro-slavery still lol

[outer python]

the main thing about jesus is forgiveness for fellow humans and just supporting each other

[proper bridge]

christanity was definatly progressive for the time

[lucid jackal]

oh for sure

[proper bridge]

any more, not really

[lucid jackal]

I thought we meant in current year

[lament helm]

why tf we talking about religion now

[outer python]

uhhhhhhhh

[lucid jackal]

[lament helm]

wrong channel guys

[outer python]

lets loop it back

its uhh anti-christian to uhhhh

[proper bridge]

@mild sentinel if you have any questions about religion or anything, feel free to shoot me a dm, though I mostly only know about the various denominations of christanity, and a bit about the other aberhamics

[lucid jackal]

or me :fingerguns:

[outer python]

dont dm me i don't know shit

[proper bridge]

but it comes right out of you, and everyone makes it

[proper bridge]

(this is a pun, not an insult)

[outer python]

yet i do not understand it :(

[west quiver]

April mentioned it, and then things went right when should have done south 3 miles back in the corn maze

[proper bridge]

you don't know shit, and shit means poop, and I'm saying everyone makes poop

[outer python]

no i understood the pun

i'm just saying i don't understand shit

[proper bridge]

Oh

I am so sorry

You were continuing the joke

[clear sluice]

The right question is why

[west quiver]

(Nothing against April, just trying to chat summary)

[clear sluice]

Why tf do we need to ban X links

[noble geode]

Okay did u even read the tweets ?? He didn’t agree on hitler was right he said you said the actual truth which was on the fact that Eric guy said Jews been hating whites same way they don’t wanna be treated themselves but u said Elon agreed on “hitler was right”???? that was from the ad which Eric replied to and Elon replied to him that he said the truth there was nottt a single damn mention of Nazi or hitler so idk what u on about

[clear sluice]

sounds pretty dumb if it was because of the n*zi thing that Musk did

[noble geode]

Their values are disturbing. They are anti-LGBT

[noble geode]

It is

[proper bridge]

"he just said that the person explaining why hitler was right was saying the truth, not that he was right"

[clear sluice]

X is all about opionion

[proper bridge]

that was more so the last straw that brought him being a nazi to everyone attention

[clear sluice]

I've seen more LGBT tweets on X than anywhere else

[noble geode]

No not at all that guy didn’t agree on Hitler was right too he said Jews says to support them but in reality they don’t like whites themselves that’s what that guy said not that Hitler was right about them

[proper bridge]

you've seen no tweets on X, remember he renamed everything :3

[clear sluice]

o yea

[noble geode]

Then why does Musk censor people?

[proper bridge]

You do relize that even elon admits this was too far of him, right?

[clear sluice]

wdym?

I've not been on X for bout 6 months

[west quiver]

"Cisgender"

[clear sluice]

so cis is a slur?

[proper bridge]

the owner of twitter thinks it is

[noble geode]

I mean yeah sure he was agreeing to that that’s bad but that just don’t make someone Nazi

[clear sluice]

we all know at least one time when we do the salute just for fucking fun

[west quiver]

Elon says it is, and if you say it you get "flagged for posting hateful content and your tweet is limited"

[proper bridge]

"agreeing with someone that hitler was right doesn't make him a nazi"

[proper bridge]

what

[last badger]

tf discussion is still ongoing ?

[onyx halo]

what

[west quiver]

..................no??????????????

[clear sluice]

no?

oh ok I'm sorry

[proper bridge]

people don't be a nazi for fun

[west quiver]

Yeah

[clear sluice]

it's just that where I live, we do the shit jokingly

school*

[noble geode]

Dude are u real? U are trying to create this fake reasoning out of that to support ur idea about Elon is Nazi but that’s pretty stupid xuz there was no mention on Hitler or Nazi Eric said Jews hate whites so he finds it sad that they still want there support so Elon said you said the truth where the hell is Hitler or Nazi in that?

[vale nova]

so it's funny??

[clear sluice]

nope

we just do it as a sort of History check

like, are you really reading notes?

[proper bridge]

please don't call me dude, and did you not read the top post?

[clear sluice]

World history is what we are studying rn

[vale nova]

tf?

[noble geode]

Which top post?

[uneven grove]

France?

[proper bridge]

of the tweet that I linked

[clear sluice]

Philippines

[uneven grove]

ooo

[clear sluice]

so yea

But if you did Japanese related bs, you would be having the same reaction as doing the salute

Cause of what happend in 1941

but the salute isn't really as dark here as someone in Europe may expect

[uneven grove]

Yea it's definitely not as stigmatized In Asia

Flashback to the taiwanese kindergarten doing a nazi parade

[clear sluice]

the Taiwan Nazi rally

[uneven grove]

Nvm it was a highschool

https://youtu.be/rqa3QSzNiJ4

historically accurate

[clear sluice]

the backup Wehrmacht/Wafren SS troops arrived a little bit too late

Reform all the way

UK reference ^^

[compact fable]

its the same thing

end of discussion

I see zero difference

[noble geode]

this

[exotic gate]

no i swear it was a roman salute!!!!

[untold escarp]

Im so glad I deleted my twitter account last week

[untold escarp]

It actually makes me scared to see the state of the current world. These videos made my blood run cold

[exotic gate]

im glad that i never made one

[frozen moth]

fuck that neonazi asshole

[late goblet]

cant fucking stand X

to add on to this, trans rights are human rights

fucking tired of the bigotry that gets spread on there, that platform isn't a free speech platform

if elon disagrees with what you put on there, he will just remove your rights to use the platform

anyways, lets see what mental gymnastics gets pulled to try keep it around

[mild sentinel]

i saw this like 5 times since yesterday
how tf denies it anyway here?

[mild sentinel]

dont

who asked you to

[late goblet]

i didnt really read up i dont really have the energy

but people seem to think that its this like crazy woke agenda which doesn't make any sense

please be so fr

[sour pecan]

wtf is he saying

[lucid jackal]

Y'all - go to sleep. It's 10:30 or later for most of ya

[late goblet]

nah its 7pm

[sour pecan]

its 7:28 am

[lucid jackal]

Go to sleep anyway

[lucid jackal]

You get a pass

[late goblet]

who are you 😭

[lucid jackal]

Ikr

[mild sentinel]

yeah thats sure, but have you seen anyone here that were bigoted or transphobic or homophobic?

if so - have you contacted the mods on that?

[sour pecan]

a few ppl got banned yesterday

[mild sentinel]

ah i see

[late goblet]

no i said the people on X are

thats what i meant sorry

[mild sentinel]

couldnt find anything on #moderation-log but ok

[late goblet]

i just wouldn't even give anything on X attention, why do we need it in here

[mild sentinel]

ah they dont log the reason here for the ban?

[sour pecan]

no

[mild sentinel]

ah then you maybe right

[late goblet]

doesn't really matter

thats not really the point

[mild sentinel]

Bro i voted on banning twitter links as well
but "i dont like elon, so lets all ban twitter and you shouldnt use twitter as well" is wild to me 👍

[late goblet]

its not exclusively elon

but you're allowed to have ur opinion love

[mild sentinel]

sure, but my point is still that

[late goblet]

doesnt phase me in the slightest

[mild sentinel]

thanks, i appreciate that

[late goblet]

👍

[pearl sun]

Ban discord 👍

[echo ledge]

I can stand censorship or cancelling in any form, it is a sickness of contemporary times.

[snow basin]

"Waaaaaa they wanna cancel and censor my favourite neo-nazi pedophiles failing dogshit social media waaaaaa"

Keep up and get on a federated network like everyone else

[hasty hull]

You can't even read a post without registering.

[frosty flax]

This is what I first thought of.
100% agreed

[solid marten]

So you think people should be allowed to use anyone else’s platform completely as they wish?
If I want to go to random discord servers and post NAZI rhetoric, no-one should be able to stop me?

[clear sluice]

NYT and WSJ:

[last badger]

oh gawd

[echo ledge]

I think moderating specific content can be reasonable, depending on the details of how it's done, but a blanket ban of a site because it contains posts you don't like is something else. The "everybody I don't like is Hitler" mindset is really tiring.

[pulsar heart]

except thats not really whats happening

were banning a site because a hitler fanboy did something in public he shouldnt have

and while yes most twitter users are either bots, nazis or spammers (if youve actually used twitter before youd know) the mods arent even considering that

[echo ledge]

"Gotcha" politics 😦

[pulsar heart]

bros just throwing out buzzwords now

[echo ledge]

accurate ones... anyway, seeya

[pulsar heart]

pointless ones

if twitter wants to shadowban anyone who speaks out against nazi rhetoric why cant we shadowban it

if you wanted true free speech youd be trying your best to get twitter shut down

also i hate to say it but your favorite social media app being hidden whether its twitter or tiktok doesnt mean your free speech is being attacked or youre being censored, you can still say the same things and do the same things just not on that platform. just because i remove a mcdonalds in your area doesnt mean you cant eat food at all anymore. people just love applying "censorship" to things that just go against their own views. i'm surprised people aren't advocating for banning all fact-checking like with zuck

[snow basin]

it's not that twitter has posts I don't like, it's that twitter actively promotes harmful content and misinformation

[modest bloom]

"if you wanted true free speech youd be trying your best to get twitter shut down" -> what is the logic behind this?
fwiw, I don't think this or any other reasonable community is required to allow just any kind of speech, I understad free speech as something that's about the government, not about people being forced to listen to anything and everything. So if people don't want twitter here, I don't think that's pro or contra free speech in general.
It's not censorship to ignore people or sources we don't like. It's only censorship if everyone is prevented from accessing said sources.
Still, what is the kind of "true" free speech that I can achieve by ignoring twitter? I believe it's easier to see the bad thing and point it out as harmful, than ignore it and get blindsided.

[tranquil tartan]

hehe gone with the elon app

[pulsar heart]

twitter is pushing the online environment into removing true free speech in certain ways that are hidden

what i mean by true free speech is free speech that not only isnt limited by the government but also isnt limited by corporations

elon isnt a true free speech advocate for many reasons but also because he owns a platform in which he can push misinformation and ban the people trying to correct that misinformation

i mean try calling elon a cishet then youll experience the free speech of twitter

[hallow fossil]

I like that idea, takes the traffic away from twitter and still allows the sharing of content

[modest bloom]

i find this contradictory, but also, maybe not on topic, unless the corporation is discord and you are telling me discord shouldn't allow its users to limit speech - which I don't think anyone wants, not even you. Hence the contradiction.

[modest bloom]

i walk into a bar and start calling the patrons names - even if those name aren't insults to them, - I will very likely experience some kind of control over my speech, what's the problem with this?

[pulsar heart]

except the bar was once the largest website ever and the only reason theres control over your speech is because the head is a crybaby bigot

[pulsar heart]

well no, i mean it in a way that kinda invalidates twitter as an advocate for free speech

which means if youre advocating for free speech, advocating for twitter is going against your cause

[modest bloom]

there was control before, there is different control now. I think you can get away with more today (so quantitatively less control), but otherwise yes, that's not far from the truth:)

[modest bloom]

i wouldn't expect consistency or rational thinking from "free speech advocates" nowadays. It's often not much more than thinly veiled propaganda. They always so keen on free speech, as long as it's not actual journalism that uncovers their shady stuff.

but I am also not an idealist. What I mean by this is that I don't look at the world and say "things should work this or that way" and try to achieve it. Instead, I look how the world is and try to improve.

[unborn sigil]

can we ban discord instead

[dim sundial]

I personally left every platform except YouTube, discord, twitch and sometimes Reddit.

[solid marten]

And you don’t think the person running the site, who thinks cis is a slur, who spreads alt right conspiracy theories, who backs Stephen Yaxley Lennon, who gives what looks to be NAZI salutes, is a NAZI?

[keen fractal]

ts pmo osrs 💔😭

[noble geode]

Two of these have different fronends as well. (redlib for reddit, invidious for yt)

[errant sable]

Not really. He's a man-child with abundant wealth.

[solid marten]

and that's mutually exclusive is it?

[errant sable]

No, and neither does it mean that he must be a national socialist.

[solid marten]

If someone is going to unironically giving nazi salutes- unless it’s part of a reenactment or fictional performance, I think it’s fair to label them as a NAZI

[errant sable]

You have deemed it unironic. That doesn't mean it's true.

[full solstice]

Damn, people here are all obsessed with nazis. Is it too much documentary viewing or not enough?

[errant sable]

Not even remotely enough, I'd say.

[solid marten]

At what point during the speech did you decide the speech was ironic?

[errant sable]

What part of the speech tipped the scales for you?

[solid marten]

The part where he started doing a NAZI salute

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rWvpvlT9pJU

he wasn’t in a comedy show, he was making a speech at a presidential inauguration

Mitchell and Webb- I don’t think they’re NAZIs

Sure they’re dressed here in the uniform of the SS- but there’s a reason for it. What is the reason for Elon to do a NAZI salute?

[vague dome]

Obviously to let his army know they took over the frickin government

[errant sable]

Right, so you said it's unironic based on the speech. But the part of the speech that you rely on to support your argument, is the part that you deemed unironic based on the speech.

Do you know what circular reasoning is?

[sly tundra]

if the government doesnt do jack shit for us, nope

lucy ↩️

[Reply to:](#1332789056068780083 message) DO WE NEED TO PAY TAXES????

[leaden ledge]

yep

[solid marten]

There is nothing to suggest it would in any way be ironic, and just claiming that far right dog whistles are ironically done is something that the far right typically do.
Have you anything to actually suggest it was done ironically?

[errant sable]

Nothing more than not wanting to jump to conclusions and start crying on the internet. Oh, and the fact that it would be funny to troll people, to see them crying on the internet. So by my estimation, I have firmer ground to stand on than you do.

[solid marten]

Oh yeah, extending good faith to the point of reality no longer holding any meaning, such firm ground 😂

[cold pollen]

The card says moops

[errant sable]

Would you say the same thing for bad faith? 😉

[solid marten]

Apart from in taking Elon at face value, you’re creating excuses with no logical basis

[errant sable]

I mean, in that case we're both doing the same thing.

[last badger]

Heck completing banning twitter link is also not logical

[errant sable]

Ah, but you see, if you use Twitter you are subhuman and therefore not worthy of consideration. That's my understanding of this situation anyway.

[last badger]

Huh tf ?

[errant sable]

That's sarcasm, bro.

[north thorn]

what the fuck i had to walk through a mile of strawmen to get back in this chat

[last badger]

Banning internet will be best then no nazi supporter can spread their messages

[solid marten]

I haven’t argued Twitter should be banned

[last badger]

Ok I didn't said that to you specifically

[errant sable]

Agreed. It's better to keep it in the shadows where the infestation can fester uncontrolled.

[solid marten]

Sure, my logic would say someone attending a KKK rally is a white supremacist , your logic would say “maybe they did it ironically!!!!”

[solid marten]

This ping replies me 😂🤷🤦🤦‍♂️

[last badger]

This doesn't lmao

[errant sable]

So the speech was at a KKK rally?

[solid marten]

Not what I said lol

[errant sable]

Then express yourself clearly.

[sonic zenith]

is the vote still ongoing

[kindred hill]

Yes

[sonic zenith]

oh

[solid marten]

You find examples hard to understand?

Or you think NAZIism isn’t comparable to KKK (though I wasn’t actually comparing them)?

[errant sable]

Assume I do, for the sake of argument.

[solid marten]

Then I think the gulf between us is too great to overcome and thus there is no point in trying to communicate with someone who is either that illogical or who is trying to play the part of a fool in order to agitate. I’ll let you decide which category you fit into.

[errant sable]

Oh, I get it. You meant that the speech thing was at a national socialist rally. So silly of me.

[north thorn]

the fact that you're calling it national socialism is another obfuscation that further proves vegancookies' point about you

can't even call them nazis smh

[errant sable]

Alright, explain that one to me? Just because I don't want to obfuscate their name?

[north thorn]

no, calling them natsoc is the obfuscation

[errant sable]

You should study history.

[north thorn]

same to you

bluh bluh they called themselves socialist so obviously they're socialist

[errant sable]

I teach history. 😂

[north thorn]

get a new job tbh

[last badger]

I want this much confidence

[solid marten]

I dunno. Have you seen American Vandal s1?

[north thorn]

anyone that calls them national socialists knows exactly what they're doing

[kindred hill]

I too used to teach 8th grade history. It's even on my bluesky bio

[north thorn]

no

oh based

[errant sable]

Upper secondary here. 👍🏿

[solid marten]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XIGAsK0newk

[kindred hill]

I drank bleach the second I got to middle school

Walked out of education then and there

[errant sable]

If you land a job at a good school, it's such a massive difference.

[north thorn]

[kindred hill]

Yeah key difference is landing at a GOOD school

They're all competitive here

[north thorn]

american? the american education system is so bad

[kindred hill]

Yes

[north thorn]

yea im impressed at the teacher that can stay in hell for as long as they do

[errant sable]

Some of the kids here legitmately show more interest than the people I did teacher training with.

[north thorn]

especially inner city teachers

[kindred hill]

What is your state?

[errant sable]

😂 The state of Sweden.

[kindred hill]

Oh yeah nvm

I thought I was talking to American educators

I was about to go wtf

[north thorn]

yeah idk a lot about sweden but i dont think the bad schools there compare to the bad schools in america

[errant sable]

I'd assume there's equally good schools in the US as well.

[north thorn]

kinda funny tho ngl

[cold pollen]

I'm in like the bottom 25% of schools in Scotland, I don't think it at all compares to America's bottom 25%

[north thorn]

yea like do y'all have school shootings in europe/uk

[cold pollen]

no

[north thorn]

thought so

the american education system is so shit it's created an unsolvable problem that costs childrens lives

[cold pollen]

and things are much to be desired here, we're using 15 year old falling apart Maths textbooks and a window had to be boarded up because there was no money in the budget to fix it

[errant sable]

Shootings no, but there was a stabbing spree here a couple of years back.

[north thorn]

a couple years back compared to like almost 500 last year in america

and that was low

[cold pollen]

there is a lot of education inequality though

[north thorn]

yea i dont think the education system is good anywhere tbh

[cold pollen]

Felt so good when my state primary school managed to beat the elitist posh private school Fettes College in a Scotland wide maths competition

[north thorn]

nice

[errant sable]

I'd like to see comparative numbers. I know of this one because I work in the area. Anyway, the US is much bigger, so absolute numbers don't paint the whole picture.

[north thorn]

comparative numbers to sweden? why would they bother doing that

it's like almost a nonexistant problem over there that isn't called the same thing

[cold pollen]

even per capita places like Sweden, Scotland and Germany have way less knife and gun crime than America

[errant sable]

There's no denying that.

[cold pollen]

the last school shooting in the UK was the Dunblane Massacre in 1996

[errant sable]

I'm interested how it compares is all.

[cold pollen]

well per capita is how it'd be compared

[north thorn]

well i dont think school related shootings are classified as school shootings in sweden so the only real comparison is yeah per capita

like school shootings are a very specific thing

[errant sable]

I think we have to include all weaponized assaults though. American gun culture is... wild. The ease of access to guns (as I perceive it) is completely unreasonable.

[north thorn]

like im literally not finding any results for school shootings in sweden so it seems like either im just not finding the data or it doesn't exist as a problem there

school shootings are classified as children causing mass murder in schools in america, pretty sure one stabbing doesn't constitute as a mass murder

[errant sable]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmö_school_stabbing - my memory doesn't serve. I tought it was more than 2 people. Nevertheless, it's screwed up.

[north thorn]

yeah while it is fucked up and i wish there were better safeguards to prevent it, it just literally isn't comparable to america by any metric

[errant sable]

On magnitude, no.

[sinful aspen]

will twitter links affect profile connections too, or just the sending of links in this server?

[frozen moth]

links probably

[ebon flare]

My reply to @errant sable is modereated as slurs?

Why is that?

[cold pollen]

Kemi Badenoch is a wanker

[cold pollen]

Tories were scraping the barrel when she got elected

[cold pollen]

ALSO ELON MUSK VS NAZISM AND YOU USE CHATGPT AS YOUR SOURCE

LOL

[north thorn]

hey @kindred hill found a bug in y'alls message filter

anyway yeah using chatgpt as a source isn't a good source, that's worse than citing wikipedia directly

please do yourself a favor and stop using chatgpt altogether, you'll find much better information and be able to argue things better

[trim crest]

reminds me of that case where chatgpt was used to give "legal advice" and it completely hallucinated to death

[modest bloom]

I think they were through the bottom of the barrel way before that, she is from way deeper 😄

[cold pollen]

Wikipedia is not a bad source because it provides reference for further reading and tries hard to be reliable and good information

[north thorn]

right lmao

[cold pollen]

somehow better than Jenrick

[north thorn]

it's bad to cite wikipedia, becuase it cites its sources and you should be citing those sources

[modest bloom]

let's not conflate the votes of tory party members with the word "better" 😄 it breaks all meanings 😄

[north thorn]

if you cite wikipedia it shows you didn't actually read past surface information

[ebon flare]

I have other sources than chatgpt, but they get censored too, because I can't mention the name of an African country without being blocked. So you're blocking sources from black people :)
Why can't I mention the name of that country? I don't get it.

[trim crest]

citing chatgpt is like asking your drunk friend for a citation

[modest bloom]

I mean, not even votes of labour members

[cold pollen]

the n word, it's a word filter bug

[trim crest]

you actually do get it <3

[timber umbra]

Why this server is turning into reddit? Can we stop with censorship?

[north thorn]

yea its kinda silly ngl

[ebon flare]

I didn't cite wikipedia. I had a source from chatgpt as an example, and also I posted two youtube videos containing interview with two black persons

[north thorn]

no im saying, using chatgpt as a source is worse than citing wikipedia

[cold pollen]

there's no ban against sending screenshots, there's 2 points to this as I see it:

1. To discourage traffic to head to twitter
2. To condemn Elon Musk going out and doing a fucking Hitler salute in front of millions of people and his far right nutso politics

[ebon flare]

Ah, so the country where most people who lives there is black, I can't say the name of the country, couse that's the n word? LOL

[cold pollen]

It's a bug

[north thorn]

no because they configured the filter wrong jfc

[cold pollen]

I've been muted for saying Nigel before

[cold pollen]

because of a bug

[trim crest]

because trolls would ommit one g to circumvent the filter shrug~1

[storm willow]

twice! going out and doing a fucking Hitler salute in front of millions of people, twice!

[ebon flare]

This will even censor another black guy. Martin Luther King jr. If I post his speech it will be blocked, because he is reffering to N**gros

[north thorn]

can't you like encapsulate it in "" to avoid wildcard matching at the end of the string on discord

[cold pollen]

that is worth it

[north thorn]

yeah you shouldn't be saying that anyway

[cold pollen]

and I hardly think people are citing Martin Luther King here tbh

[ebon flare]

nah, then you rewrite his speech. Not okey

[north thorn]

wrong

[trim crest]

I mean, i think the french name is not blocked

[north thorn]

ommissions aren't rewrites damn idk what grade this person is in but they aren't at a uni level

so i'll be soft about this

[ebon flare]

Lets try to cite Martin Luther King jr.: Sitation: But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the
Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination.

Source: https://static.pbslearningmedia.org/media/media_files/Full_text_I_Have_a_Dream_.pdf

[trim crest]

well thats awkward .__.

[ebon flare]

that worked

[north thorn]

you juust really wanna get banned dont you

[trim crest]

did you use a lookalike ?

[north thorn]

it doesn't matter if you quote it

[timber umbra]

Why should the arch discord tell me or anybody else what to think about elon musk? Can arch discord be about arch?

[ebon flare]

I am just testing how tolerante this community realy is :)

[cold pollen]

FOSS is political

[trim crest]

how patient*

im from the same continent as you (assuming you are african) and you are being cringe

if you arent, then you are cringe² and racist

[cold pollen]

it's a philosophical argument over how software should be managed and published, that's highly political

[modest bloom]

said europe, but as an european myself, i agree

[timber umbra]

It is not? It's just software

[cold pollen]

^

[north thorn]

wrong

[trim crest]

Well here is the thing, software is a form of art

and art is, inherently political & social

[north thorn]

just because you don't care about the politics behind free shit you download online doesn't mean it isn't and shouldn't be political

[cold pollen]

everything is political it came free with your having a society

[north thorn]

yea

[trim crest]

maybe its not political when you USE it, but when you create it, it certainly is

[modest bloom]

people who say "this is not about politics" tend to view politics just like another job. if you have a job or interact with someone having a job that is a political job, then you do politics, nothing else is. It's completely bonkers of course, literally everything is political, saying otherwise is usually the way for those in power to disinfrenchise those without

[trim crest]

Again, while im still opposed to this ban, software and programming IS political and a form of expression

[timber umbra]

Wdym wrong? I really don't care what is my os political opinion

[ebon flare]

I try again then, This is Kemi Badenoch from a country with mostly black people in it that I can't mention because someone thinks the name of the country is offensive towards black people: in this section Badenoch speach about DEI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWFVxg6X1qw&t=3075s

[north thorn]

then you shouldn't care that the community wants to ban twitter

[modest bloom]

political doesn't just mean "it has something to do with current political activities"

[storm willow]

31 years ago today Sonic The Hedgehog 3 for the Genesis released. Sonic is pro-freedom and anti-oppression. i think he wouldn't care if Twitter was banned either way but wouldn't mourn its loss if it were.

Be like Sonic.

[timber umbra]

That's just censorship

[north thorn]

what you mean is "i don't like it, and i think it's wrong" not "i don't care"

[storm willow]

literally 1986

[north thorn]

also it's not censorship, pretty sure we'll be able to post screencaps, it's literally all about not giving traffic to a nazi

[cold pollen]

^

[trim crest]

now we are just strawmaning things arent we ?....

[cold pollen]

reddit mods have allowed screenshots

it's about not giving traffic to the nazi owner of twitter

[north thorn]

yea i had to walk through a mile of the fuckin things to get here, there's a whole maze of strawmen

[storm willow]

do i need to post the Gemini "Banning X on Discord" message again

[trim crest]

the whatnow ?

[cold pollen]

don't

[timber umbra]

Reddit is literally the most locked down social media

[trim crest]

if its ai slop , i really dont need to see it

[cold pollen]

I don't wanna read AI slop

[ebon flare]

He is not nazi and caling him a nazi actually will offfend victims of real nazism :)

[storm willow]

fair enough i just thought it was funny

[cold pollen]

he is a Nazi

[north thorn]

have an original thought, stop relying on LLM's to say things for you

[north thorn]

he is a nazi

[trim crest]

Yall are pathetic

[storm willow]

nah i agree i just wanted to do it for the funnies last night lol i actually hate gemini

[frosty flax]

Sry wrong channel

[north thorn]

ok good

[ebon flare]

Because of the stupid nazi salute, or because of what Musk actually stands for?

[trim crest]

both

[north thorn]

if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck

[ebon flare]

So what does he stand for that is nazism?

[trim crest]

yeeeep, correct

[ebon flare]

Ah, so the witch hunt tactic?

[ebon flare]

Tell me, what does he stands for that is nazism?

[north thorn]

no, but keep letting your mask slip, it's a great look for you

[trim crest]

tolerance for the intolerant isnt tolerance

[timber umbra]

Saying elon musk or some troll on twitter a nazi is disgrace to hollocaust victims

[cold pollen]

he did a fucking hitler salute TWICE and he supports parties with neo nazi ties (the AFD) as well as supporting a party whose supporters say we should put the military on the coast and shoot at immigrants as target practice (Reform UK) and saying the UK should free Tommy Robinson (who caused the recent racist riots in the UK) and Tommy is also a far right nutjob who was a former member of the British National Party a fascist and proud party

[storm willow]

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then we really shouldn't be calling them names, obviously Musk isn't a duck even though he constantly boosts the thoughts of ducks :) /j

[trim crest]

Oh yeah my bad, lets ignore all the new laws that will get passed because of him and his boyfriend Trump, the deportations, the discriminitation againt trans people...etc etc etc

[north thorn]

had me going cus the message was so long lmao

[trim crest]

but nah, lets just keep fighting over semantics and definitions

yall are P A T H E T I C. it shouldnt be a culture war, nor a left vs right, but a class war, he is rich and is profiting from us fighting eachother

[timber umbra]

bruh, that's a problem of the americans, not me nor my os

[trim crest]

he walks like a duck and quacks like a duck because he has autism and he got a little too excited to give us his duck heart

[north thorn]

then if it's not your problem why are you so pissed about it

[trim crest]

your OS wouldnt be here if it werent for the people he is waging war against

and i would say, that its idiotic, Im not american, but these decisions DIRECTLY influence my country

[north thorn]

censorship censorship 1984 i cant post links to twitter on a discord anymore free speech free speech

[desert junco]

why would you censor links to one of the most relevant social media platforms

[trim crest]

my country TO THIS DAY, considers being lgbt a CRIME, seeing america, the land of the free, also descriminate against lgbt people, is literally undoing years of progress towards human rights

[north thorn]

it's not relevant anymore

also it's because a nazi owns it

[storm willow]

wait, discord's the government now? damn i should've exercised my first amendment rights a LONG time ago if that's the case :p

[north thorn]

lol

[timber umbra]

Am I? I'm just against censhorship, that's all.

[trim crest]

im so sorry that yall are deprived of any sense of humanity, nor empathy and only care about me me me me

[trim crest]

no you arent

[north thorn]

it's not censorship bruh take some dewormer pills your brain is infested with them

[trim crest]

you are against a minor inconvenience

[north thorn]

you'll literally be able to post screencaps from twitter still

[trim crest]

you never cared about censorship, nor will

[timber umbra]

You're saying 1984 right?

[desert junco]

hardly true considering how many linux ecosystem devs use it as their main social media

[north thorn]

most people have migrated to bluesky and are just waiting for the inevitable end of twitter

[trim crest]

Twitter blocking words for no reason : you are silent
Ughurs are silenced and censored : you are silent
Gay people are killed in the middle east and north africa : you are silent

but somehow arch server blocking a DOMAIN is a problem to oyu

you have no sense of morality whatsoever fam

[desert junco]

well, seems weird to ban links to a given platform just because of politics but ig ydy

[north thorn]

debian and arch are already on bluesky

[storm willow]

did you guys know that the first amendment only protects free speech from persecution if it's done by the government? individual communities on privately owned platforms (or even federated platforms like Mastodon, and open protocols like AT Proto) are not responsible for "stifling" free speech if they choose to, for example, block links to a website currently owned and ran by at best a Nazi sympathizer

[trim crest]

TLDR: freedom is speech is only protecting you FROM THE GOVERNEMENT, but not from private individuals showing you the door and the middle finger

[storm willow]

yerp, xkcd 13somethingsomething and all

[timber umbra]

ad personam D:

[trim crest]

damn i accidently referenced xkcd

not my fault, they have a panel for everything 😭

[storm willow]

xkcd is actually just kinda goated tbh

[trim crest]

again, i say it again and again, im against the ban. but if the majority is for, and if it goes into effect, you either have to roll with it, or create your own arch server

[north thorn]

yea i mean if you don't like how the mods operate their server you're always welcome to start your own linux server, no one's forcing you to be here under this totalitarian regime

[trim crest]

and hope it doesnt attract the "Not-Nazis" 😊

[ebon flare]

AfD is not a nazi party. They don't have any plans to stop democracy. Actually they want a direction with direct democracy like in Swiz:
Here is the party program of AfD.
https://www.afd.de/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/2017-04-12_afd-grundsatzprogramm-englisch_web.pdf

[storm willow]

that's what Trump said this past election too, and yet...

[trim crest]

"AFD isnt nazi... Source ? afd.de"

[storm willow]

or for a more "close to home" example, that's literally what the Nazis said

[ebon flare]

I gave you their entire party program. Where is the nazism there?

[north thorn]

my dude, the leader of the AfD has literally repeated nazi slogans and been fined for it repeatedly

[trail rampart]

"We've investigated ourselves and found no wrongdoing"

[north thorn]

he literally said he was proud of what the nazi party did in ww2

[trim crest]

where have i heard this before ? 😭

[trim crest]

i feel there would be something here

[north thorn]

how the fuck is he not a nazi if he says nazi things and constantly glazes the nazi party

[trim crest]

oh wait, im blind and stupid

"Islam doesnt belong to germany" very not nazi 😊

[north thorn]

like goddamn y'all need to open a fucking history book instead of getting your info from youtube and chatgpt and twitter posts

[storm willow]

personally im for the ban but can understand why someone wouldn't want it to be banned

it just so happens that most of the reasons ive heard tend to lean towards denialism of the Nazi being a Nazi

[chilly sigil]

isn't nazi something else?
like that sounds more like extreme conservatism
well anyways still bad

[trim crest]

im sorry but this is not conservatism

[errant sable]

Odd. But yes, I agree. Their perspective is wildly skewed, and the degree to which they trivialize actual nazis is astounding.

[north thorn]

a very mask off moment for the members of the arch linux community

[stone egret]

„Von der NPD unterscheiden wir uns nicht durch Inhalte.“ - An AfD functionary. I don't think there is much more to say about that

[north thorn]

if you're glazing nazis and repeating the shit they said, you're a nazi ngl, it's not just conservatism

[storm willow]

if you want to play the semantics game, historically Nazi is just a shortening of the National Socialist party of Germany, and its members.

in modern times, it's basically a synonym for fascist and fascist beliefs.

[trim crest]

wait i just saw something hilariously sad @north thorn

[noble geode]

Oh boy, Nazis 😦

[north thorn]

oh jesus

[trim crest]

"As long as Islam has not been fundamentally reformed...." ? ? ? ? ?

[cold pollen]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx88nwy934go

[trim crest]

QUICK. LETS UPDATE ISLAM TO APPEAL TO THE GERMANS

[cold pollen]

the AfD is so fucking far right marine le pen does not want to work with them

[trim crest]

that says VOLUMES 😭

[chilly sigil]

idk tbh
both seem like extreme conservatism of some sort

[north thorn]

fun fact: if a platform says "equality for all people and democracy!" and the leader of that party is a racist nazi piece of shit, that party isn't a democratic party, it's a nazi party

[storm willow]

anyway im sick and tired of the looping debates, goodnight, and don't forget to punch the nearest Nazi, it's always morally correct

[cold pollen]

the daughter of a holocaust denier and the leader of his party

[ebon flare]

Traditional family values isn't nazi

As I don't agree that Islam dosen't belong to Germany, it's still not nazism to say so. Do the AfD have a final solution for Muslims?

@north thorn Also, the guy you are refering to is Björn Höcke. He is the leader of the AfD in the state called Thuringia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thuringia
He is not the leader of the entire party and what he says dosen't make the entire party a nazi party.
In Europe we mostly have different flavours of parlamentarism with more than two parties.
In those parties, there is always someone who says stupid things, but that dosen't make the entire party stupid.

[trim crest]

the same way elon musk isnt running along screaming "IM A NAZI", they wont just outright tell you

"We are not a scam because its not written anywhere on our website that we are a scam"

[cold pollen]

"Traditional family values" is a dog whistle

[trim crest]

also like, come on, we all know what it ACTUALLY means

[north thorn]

wrong, i'm referring to Gauland

[cold pollen]

"indentiterianism" "remigration" "protecting jobs" are all dog whistles

[errant sable]

To a certain group, it seems like everything is a dog whistle. Amazing.

[north thorn]

there's incidents of other people in the party saying wild nazi shit too and then OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PARTY DEFENDING THEM

[trim crest]

Indeed, it is not the eyes that are blind, but it is the hearts in the chests that grow blind.

[cold pollen]

https://youtu.be/0dBJIkp7qIg
https://youtu.be/Gq0ZHgKT2tc

[modest perch]

https://afd-verbot.de/beweise

[errant sable]

Sounds like a dog whistle to me.

[trim crest]

close enough, thats a religious verse

[modest perch]

all you need to know - anyone defending the afd despite being in knowledge of all this and not having the ignorance defense anymore is actively enabling fascists

[serene nacelle]

This threads history has been an interesting read lmfao

[errant sable]

😂 Man, religion...

[trim crest]

btw i have a DNI policy with minors, and especially the ones under the age of 14, so plz dont reply to me @errant sable

[north thorn]

hello welcome to the shit show, please dont mind the strawmen we've been trying to ignore them

[north thorn]

there's almost more strawmen here than there are real people

[trim crest]

GO TO SLEEP

[cold pollen]

I'm woke and proud

[errant sable]

Oh no, I'm so incredibly hurt by that remark. Truly, it cuts me to my core.

[trim crest]

dw we figured from the pfp

[storm willow]

no i decided this is too fun to sleep for I Have Been Up For Too Long

[serene nacelle]

insert confused sounding ohnepixel "Was??"

[trim crest]

i cant imagine a conservative with a madeline pfp 😭

[storm willow]

FUCK I NEED TO PLAY CELESTE STILL

[kindred hill]

dsfdsfsdf

[storm willow]

hi

[north thorn]

hi aristocat

[timber umbra]

Why there is nazi and woke discussion in arch discord server. You all should go straight to r/politicalshitstorm or something like that

[cold pollen]

Arch is political

[storm willow]

Linux is political imo

[cold pollen]

Arch is a very political statement

[north thorn]

nazis invading our spaces and making it inhospitable for us to interact in makes it a political thing

[noble vigil]

it's a political statement that u're a neek

[timber umbra]

You're probably on wrong discord

[trim crest]

weird coming from someone whose only messages are in this thread, and in the support channels sip

[noble vigil]

whar?

[trim crest]

its almost like its not your server :O

[noble vigil]

isn't this what the intended use of this server is?

[kindred hill]

yes

do you have a problem with that

[timber umbra]

Yup, I just wanted to get linux help :/

[north thorn]

[kindred hill]

no you didn't lol

[trim crest]

petition to rename #lgbtq #hardware #programming #controversial-archive #gaming #urandom to #787100693035089940

[cold pollen]

why do you care about twitter links then

[modest perch]

it's always hilarious to see when people speak up against fascists and don't tolerate their bs anymore that they all start crying like snowflakes and be like "pls no politics :((((" xd

[serene nacelle]

I am in support of this

[trim crest]

in what scenario would posting a twitter link help with the process of troubleshooting an arch install

[noble vigil]

But I'm pretty sure the purpose of this server is more support and linux discussion than it is #lgbtq or #controversial-archive

[north thorn]

right like the masks fell off hours ago in here

[serene nacelle]

Name announcements to support too

[trim crest]

you cant headcannon stuff

[storm willow]

if you did you wouldn't have taken offense to this since you don't necessarily need Twitter to figure out why your graphics aren't graphicsing or whatever

[trim crest]

its called Arch Linux COMMUNITY, not SUPPORT, for a reason

[north thorn]

if you spent literally any time here, you would know it isn't

[trim crest]

mfw when i have to download my nvidia drivers from an x thread

[kindred hill]

hey ya'll, i appreciate all the support you are giving us mods in trying to ban nazis and fascists from in this thread, be sure to open a ticket to report them also as we can't always keep an eye in here ❤️ much love to yall

[north thorn]

this isn't a tech support server, it's a server of people that are kind enough to offer you tech support in return for not being rude about other things

[noble vigil]

well #lgbtq and #controversial-archive are the only channels i really talk in, but I don't feel like I'm a core member. There's a reason helpful users, those who provide support, get special privileges in this server. The server is supposed to aid in the use of arch linu

[storm willow]

ty

[silent moon]

aristocat43 received a thank you cookie!

[north thorn]

i have literally not seen you in controversial

[trim crest]

see, this is where you are wrong

"the server is supposed to aid i nthe use of arch linux"

if you remove everything and keep #1006743093120352338 , it will die in no time

[noble vigil]

🗿

[trim crest]

the free community support you get is a byproduct of the community being kind enough to interact with you

[north thorn]

oh no bluh bluh you have more posts than me what a display of authority im so sorry you are clearly my superior

[noble vigil]

I have more messages in #controversial-archive than you've even sent in this server

[trim crest]

shiver me timbers

[modest perch]

my free support advice of the day: run rm -rf /* to unban twitter links

[trim crest]

Apeal to whatevertheFUCKisthisstupidargument

[north thorn]

how could i have been so STUPID, this person OBVIOUSLY Has more posts than me, nothing i say matters

[kindred hill]

it's so joever

[noble vigil]

it is joever

[kindred hill]

you cooked them epic style!!!111 xDDDDD

[north thorn]

xddddd

[noble vigil]

i presented myself as the gigachad and them as the soyjack

[timber umbra]

Did I took offense? I got ping from announcments to vote about this idea, and I devided to speak against censorship. I fell like we're going in circles. It sad that we can't just have freedom of speech 😦

[trim crest]

i read this in penguinz voice idk why

[north thorn]

go get a life, touch grass

[storm willow]

The Sims

[north thorn]

lol

[kindred hill]

freedom of speech is not freedom of consequence, plus 1st amend doesn't apply to companies

[serene nacelle]

I'm in the city, does concrete count