installing arch on a raspberry pi 4

[finite island]

cd

photo of cd

[shell leaf]

this is very odd

[finite island]

cd /usr/share

ls

photo

@shell leaf

[shell leaf]

that took an unreasonable amount of time

[finite island]

cd wayland-sessions

[shell leaf]

not a directory

[finite island]

it's in the photo

[shell leaf]

well thats a lie because i know it is, i can see it right there. why is it not

[shell leaf]

i dunno it says not a directory

[finite island]

rm -rf that then remake it

[shell leaf]

finally. cd worked

[finite island]

cd

rm -rf awesome

git clone -b dw-arch https://github.com/killertofus/awesome

cd awesome

sudo mv dwl.desktop /usr/share/wayland-sessions

[shell leaf]

works

[finite island]

cd /usr/share/wayland-sessions

[shell leaf]

done]

ls shows it only contains dwl.desktop

[finite island]

good

now reboot

[shell leaf]

then?

[finite island]

pick dwl from ly

[shell leaf]

not an option

[finite island]

use the arrow keys

[shell leaf]

i know how to use it

it only has shell and xinit

[shell leaf]

same as mine

[finite island]

go to shell

then do ./startup.sh

[shell leaf]

no such file or directory

[finite island]

cd awesome

cp startup.sh ..

[shell leaf]

done

[finite island]

cd

./startup.sh

[shell leaf]

DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT

[finite island]

?

[shell leaf]

there is a mouse on the screen

I will need to get a mouse?

[finite island]

yes

reboot

cd awesome

./install.sh

[finite island]

this is where the fun begins

[shell leaf]

I am excited

how do I reboot

[finite island]

control alt f5

login

reboot

[shell leaf]

control alt F5 doesn't do anything

[finite island]

unplug the pi

[shell leaf]

very fair

[shell leaf]

do I choose shell

nevermind there is no other working option

this is a very good screen

I like this screen

[shell leaf]

what is it doing?

[finite island]

installing the packages for dwl

[shell leaf]

wow I have a lot of errors

not terrible errors though

[shell leaf]

what now?

[finite island]

let the script do it's work

[shell leaf]

it's done

[finite island]

photo please

[finite island]

./install_wayland.sh

[shell leaf]

no such file or directory

[finite island]

cd awesome

./install_wayland.sh

[shell leaf]

I am already in awsome

*awesome

and it is empty

what on earth is going on

[finite island]

cd ..

git clone -b dw-arch https://github.com/killertofus/awesome

cd awesome

sed -i 's/rofi/rofi-wayland/g' packages.txt
sed -i 's/xscreensaver/wlroots/g' packages.txt
sed -i 's/picom/swww/g' packages.txt
sed -i 's/lxappearance/nwg-look/g' packages.txt
sed -i '2 a wayland-protocols' packages.txt
sed -i 's/volumeicon/waybar/g' packages.txt```

sudo pacman -S $(cat packages.txt | cut -d' ' -f1) --noconfirm

[shell leaf]

jesus

[finite island]

it's only 65 packages

[shell leaf]

delimiter must be a single character

[finite island]

photo please

[shell leaf]

sudo pacman -S $(cat packages.txt | cut -d' ' -f1) --noconfirm

I think I typed wrong hold on

[shell leaf]

fixed my command

also I have to go soon so if we reach a good time to stop let me know

[finite island]

now is a good time, we can finish later

[shell leaf]

i return

[finite island]

remove steam and wine and reflector and obs and rofi-wayland from that

[shell leaf]

how

[finite island]

nano packages.txt

[shell leaf]

also will that stop me from using steam

in future

[finite island]

no

it's not in the arch arm repos, yet

[shell leaf]

does that make it unusable

[finite island]

[shell leaf]

done

[finite island]

now run ./install_wayland.sh

[shell leaf]

it is going

errors, not stop

finish

[finite island]

photo please

[shell leaf]

many errors have passed

[finite island]

pacman -Q wget

pacman -Q unzip

@shell leaf

[shell leaf]

I do not have either of those

I'm guessing pacman -S?

[finite island]

sudo pacman -S $(cat packages.txt | cut -d' ' -f1) --noconfirm

[shell leaf]

awesome disappeared

what on earth

[finite island]

cd ..

git clone -b dw-arch https://github.com/killertofus/awesome

cd awesome

[finite island]

start here then sudo pacman -S $(cat packages.txt | cut -d' ' -f1) --noconfirm

[shell leaf]

why does it keep disappearing?

[shell leaf]

also cd .. now takes me to home

not /

if that's important?

[finite island]

cd

then cd to awesome

[shell leaf]

ok I will use the git command

to create awesome

[shell leaf]

I'm guessing remove those

but why does awesome keep removing itself

[finite island]

replace 7zip with zip

rm -rf $(pwd)

[finite island]

this is at the end

[shell leaf]

oh no

[finite island]

pacman -Qi mdadm

pacman -Sii mdadm

@shell leaf

[shell leaf]

wait wait wait is that it?

[shell leaf]

because that was the only issue before with a bunch of desktop environments

screenshot by the way

[finite island]

remove gnome-disks from the list

then install

sudo pacman -S $(cat packages.txt | cut -d' ' -f1) --noconfirm

@shell leaf

[shell leaf]

gnome-disk-utility?

[finite island]

yes

[shell leaf]

still mkinitcpio issue

[finite island]

remove dnsmasq

and timeshift

[shell leaf]

done

mkinitcpio issue

[finite island]

pacman -S alacritty blueman

sudo pacman -S bat bluez

sudo pacman -S bluez-utils btop dnsmasq dunst feh firefox

@shell leaf

sudo pacman -S fzf flameshot git gnome-disk-utility

[shell leaf]

all worked except this set

[finite island]

same error as before?

[shell leaf]

yes

[finite island]

sudo pacman -S fzf flameshot

[shell leaf]

works

[finite island]

sudo pacman -S gnome-disk-utility

[shell leaf]

mkinitcpio

[finite island]

sudo pacman -S lsd lxappearance ly mono

[shell leaf]

i have ly do i still do it

[finite island]

sudo pacman -S neovim nemo networkmanager

[finite island]

remove that one

[shell leaf]

this fails

[finite island]

sudo pacman -S networkmanager

[shell leaf]

works

[finite island]

sudo pacman -S nemo

[shell leaf]

mkinitcpio

[finite island]

remove nemo from packages.txt

then sudo pacman -S $(cat packages.txt | cut -d' ' -f1) --noconfirm

[shell leaf]

this will take a while...

[finite island]

as, expected

[shell leaf]

as always, a couple errors. but nothing big

[finite island]

photo please

[finite island]

show me your /etc/makepkg.conf

@shell leaf

[finite island]

there should be more @shell leaf

[shell leaf]

i am not seeing an ability to go down more

cat also confirms that there is no more

[finite island]

find this OPTIONS=(strip docs !libtool !staticlibs emptydirs zipman purge !debug !lto)

[shell leaf]

found

[finite island]

photo please

[shell leaf]

it is there

[finite island]

remove the extra ! you only need 1

[shell leaf]

done, why was there 3

[finite island]

you ran the install command three times

[shell leaf]

and that adds ! why?

[finite island]

fc-cache -f

[finite island]

no debug packages are being installed with that

[finite island]

chsh -s $(which zsh)

[shell leaf]

done

[finite island]

for word in $(cat aurpackages.txt); do yay -S --noconfirm --mflags --skipinteg $word || true; done

yay --devel --save

[finite island]

sudo pacman -S zsh

[shell leaf]

dont have yay

[finite island]

git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/yay.git

makepkg -siD yay --noconfirm

[shell leaf]

invalid option D

[finite island]

cd yay

makepkg -si

[shell leaf]

a failure occurred in build()

aborting...

[finite island]

photo please

[shell leaf]

there

[finite island]

skip that part

[shell leaf]

what do i do then

[finite island]

sudo systemctl enable libvirtd.service
sudo systemctl enable libvirtd.socket

[shell leaf]

done

[finite island]

useradd --create-home name

[shell leaf]

did that a while ago

[finite island]

sudo -lU name

[shell leaf]

done

[finite island]

what does it output?

[shell leaf]

I once again will have to go soon so let me know when it is a good time to do so

[finite island]

@shell leaf login as james

[shell leaf]

already am

[finite island]

cp -r .config ~/
cp -r icons ~/.local/share
mv .zshrc ~/```

mv icons ~/.local/share

[shell leaf]

no such file or directory

[finite island]

reboot

into dwl now

[shell leaf]

not an option

xinitrc or shell as always

[finite island]

shell

then ./startup.sh

[shell leaf]

gui

now what

[finite island]

what do you see?

[shell leaf]

dark grey screen with cursor on it

[finite island]

photo please

[shell leaf]

we saw this before

[finite island]

control alt f5

login

pacman -Q waybar

[shell leaf]

it is ctrl alt F3 I believe

actually, neither of them do anything

[finite island]

reboot

then find out of waybar is installed

the install it, if not already installed

then reboot into dwl

[shell leaf]

shell then ./startup.sh

now what

[finite island]

do you see something different?

[shell leaf]

i see the same mouse on the same grey background

[finite island]

pacman -Q waybar

[finite island]

cat startup.sh

@shell leaf

[shell leaf]

waybar is in there

however when I do ctrl alt F5 it does freeze by the way

[finite island]

wget https://github.com/lbonn/rofi/releases/download/1.7.7%2Bwayland1/rofi-1.7.7+wayland1.tar.gz

tar xzf rofi-1.7.7+wayland1.tar.gz

cd rofi

mkdir build && cd build

../configure

make

make install

[finite island]

pacman -Q check

[shell leaf]

should install it?

[finite island]

sudo pacman -S check

../configure

make

[shell leaf]

yeah, figures

[finite island]

git clone https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/rofi-wayland

cd rofi-wayland

makepkg -si

[finite island]

pacman -Ss rofi-wayland

[shell leaf]

do I ignore the fatal error

[finite island]

yes

[shell leaf]

ok

[finite island]

@shell leaf

[shell leaf]

done

[finite island]

photo please

[shell leaf]

it does not do anything

no messages

[finite island]

sudo pacman -S rofi-wayland

[shell leaf]

not found

[finite island]

pacman -U http://mirror.archlinuxarm.org/armv7h/extra/rofi-wayland-1.7.5+wayland3-3-armv7h.pkg.tar.xz

[shell leaf]

404

[shell leaf]

its still 404 which makes me think it probably isnt available anymore

so are we doomed

[finite island]

@shell leaf control alt f5

[shell leaf]

that freezes the pi

[finite island]

control alt f7

exec waybar >/dev/tty 3>&1

[shell leaf]

also freezes the pi

[finite island]

pick a fx that does not "freeze the pi"

[shell leaf]

alright i will sequentially test each of them

i have a feeling that waybar is not working so any command to open it will freeze the device

[shell leaf]

none of them do not freeze the pi

[finite island]

do not?

[shell leaf]

every single ctrl alt fX combination causes the mouse to stop moving

and nothing changes other than that

[finite island]

do you get a screen that tells you to login?

[shell leaf]

no

i get nothing

except mouse freeze for a couple minutes

[finite island]

arch arm

[shell leaf]

that is the operating system currently being run, yes

[finite island]

as in arch arm is in a unstable environment, other arm based distros, are more stable

like suse

[shell leaf]

should i throw in the towel

[finite island]

and switch to a different arm os?

@shell leaf

[shell leaf]

yes that is what i mean

[finite island]

then yes

suse, fedora, debian, debian based, ubuntu based are better then arch arm, at the moment

https://iso.pop-os.org/22.04/arm64/raspi/4/pop-os_22.04_arm64_raspi_4.img.xz

https://download.opensuse.org/ports/aarch64/tumbleweed/appliances/openSUSE-Tumbleweed-ARM-KDE-raspberrypi.aarch64.raw.xz

[shell leaf]

is suse arm based?

[finite island]

it has a arm port

[shell leaf]

is it arch based

[finite island]

no, its independent with parts taken from fedora

[shell leaf]

sounds like i want debian then

[finite island]

instead of suse?

try pop-os arm instead

[shell leaf]

yes i think debian would be preferable as debian is famously quite reliable and also i am more acquainted with it

[shell leaf]

pop!_os can suck my testicles

[finite island]

why?

[shell leaf]

i have a long list of reasons why i dont like pop!_os, i shall not get into them

either way, im currently in debian

i dont know how to actually do anything other than move around the terminal however

[finite island]

git clone -b debian-minimal https://github.com/killertofus/awesome

./install.sh

[shell leaf]

dont have git

apt install git doesnt work either

[finite island]

photo please

[shell leaf]

it just says "unable to locate package git"

nothing special

[finite island]

apt update && apt upgrade

then install git

[shell leaf]

oh, right, yeah

weird that the img doesnt come with the installer prebuilt

also will i be able to use any DE that i like?

or will i have to use gnome

[finite island]

run that script first

[shell leaf]

i was planning to

[shell leaf]

fatal: repository 'debian-minimal' does not exist

[finite island]

photo please

[finite island]

you forgot the -b

-b for branch

[shell leaf]

oh I see

there it goes

[shell leaf]

script has run

[finite island]

reboot, when it finishes

[shell leaf]

now what

[finite island]

pick wayland or x11 from sddm

[shell leaf]

i am not in sddm

i am in terminal

[vale shadow]

Waybar on the pi?

We installing hyprland?

Oh im far behind

[shell leaf]

i wouldve taken hyprland any day

however we elected that the only option is debian

[vale shadow]

What about raspianOS, the os made for the device

[shell leaf]

dont even talk to me

[vale shadow]

Hahaha

[shell leaf]

nothing MADE for the pi is good

[vale shadow]

Thats coz the pi isnt any good

[shell leaf]

the pi can be good

[vale shadow]

Homeassistant OS is my goto for the pi

[shell leaf]

if it runs bookworm

or arm in the future

[shell leaf]

what it do

[vale shadow]

It runs a homeassistant instance

Thats all

[shell leaf]

whats homeassistant

[vale shadow]

Self hosted smart home server

[shell leaf]

right yeah i dont need a server

[vale shadow]

What are you going to use the PI for? I saw you have it connected to a rather big screen.

[shell leaf]

that's just the best screen I have available

other than a crt

[vale shadow]

Ah okay

[shell leaf]

all my monitors use either DP or VGA

I'm gonna use it for video games

[vale shadow]

Oh

[shell leaf]

it's a good use

also maybe streaming

and by streaming I mean off the SD card

[vale shadow]

Yeah

[shell leaf]

mp4s essentially

[vale shadow]

Okay that might work

[shell leaf]

gaming also should

I don't see why not

if it can run Debian presumably it can use deb packages

[vale shadow]

Yeah but dont expect any performance

[shell leaf]

I don't play games that require performance

that pi kicks the shit out of the devices I usually game on

[vale shadow]

It can barely run Minecraft, so I dont know what you play

[shell leaf]

gigabytes of ram?

I mean cmon

[vale shadow]

Anyways, did you flash debian to the SD card?

[shell leaf]

that's big for me

[shell leaf]

we are in debian

I even ran his special script

but still terminal

no de

[vale shadow]

Okay, so you flashed a debian iso to your sd card.

Inserted SD card into pi and successfully booted.

And youre in the terminal now.

Anything I miss?

@finite island whats the purpose of your install script if OP is on debian now?

[shell leaf]

no that's about it

[shell leaf]

it was an img if that matters lol

[vale shadow]

Still want plasma 6?

[shell leaf]

ideally

if possible, I like the kde ecosystem

[vale shadow]

Im not sure what the debian packages are called

I read
kde-full
kde-standard
kde-plasma-desktop

Try apt search kde

Okay so full is just a lot of bloat afaik. Standard has some useful apps. And desktop only the essentials

[shell leaf]

define bloat

[shell leaf]

bloat could mean many things

[vale shadow]

Just random stuff you probably wont use

apt search kde-plasma

If plasma 6 is in the results just install that

[shell leaf]

yeah like what

[vale shadow]

Krita

Kdeconnect

Gimp

Idk

[shell leaf]

gimp is good lol

kde connect is also good

[finite island]

did you read the readme.md?

@shell leaf apt list sddm

[vale shadow]

Yeah I did

This wont do anything on debian

[finite island]

?

[shell leaf]

yeah its there

[vale shadow]

Whats the goal of installing your dotfiles for arch on OPs debian device

[finite island]

there is a debian branch

[finite island]

sudo systemctl enable sddm

reboot

[vale shadow]

Aha, it just sent me to the arch one. Now it makes sense

God thats smart, im also moving my dotfiles to different branches

[shell leaf]

unit file sddm.service does not exist

[finite island]

photo please

[finite island]

dpkg-reconfigure sddm

[shell leaf]

...not installed?

ok that's odd

apt time

presumably?

[finite island]

apt install sddm

[shell leaf]

it requires capital Y

what a strange concept

i just used something that was almost a GUI

thats crazy

it asked my keyboard layout

[finite island]

edit packages.txt to replace Firefox with firefox-esr in the new git clone

[shell leaf]

done

[finite island]

./install.sh

[finite island]

then reboot

[shell leaf]

what is zsh

[shell leaf]

on it

[finite island]

a shell

[shell leaf]

jesus christ the graphical glitches when i use the mouse

i do not have an account though so how do i log in

[shell leaf]

ah. makes sense. has sh in it

[shell leaf]

on reflection i could just, make an account

[shell leaf]

I'm guessing I need to now get a DE

[finite island]

plasma is a de

[shell leaf]

correct

so I need to install it

unless I'm missing something

[finite island]

did it install via the script?

@shell leaf

rerun that script in your user

[shell leaf]

I assumed not

[finite island]

replacing Firefox with firefox-esr

[shell leaf]

will do

[finite island]

now boot into plasma wayland/x11

[shell leaf]

where is the script

currently terminal automatically sends me to /

[finite island]

cd

git clone -b debian-minimal https://github.com/killertofus/awesome

cd debian-minimal

sed -i 's/firefox/firefox-esr/g' packages.txt

./install.sh

@shell leaf

[shell leaf]

i will do this

[shell leaf]

i am not in the sudoers file

[finite island]

usermod -aG sudo username

sudo -lU username

[finite island]

apt install sudo

sudo usermod -aG sudo user

[shell leaf]

I already have sudo

[finite island]

@shell leaf

[shell leaf]

jesus I hate this new shell

typing things is quite hard

I can't type sudo what am I supposed to do

[finite island]

really?

[shell leaf]

it turns it into either susudo or do

I have to use arrow keys to work around that lmao

[finite island]

sudo apt install zsh

[shell leaf]

I actually cannot use the arrow keys to navigate either

[shell leaf]

that's what I'm using

hate it

oh well, hopefully I won't have to use it much

I've just realised I ran ./install.sh before changing the Firefox thing

am I doomed

oh no, wall of "permission denied"

[finite island]

do that again

and make sure your user can sudo before doing that

[shell leaf]

by the way I'm currently trying to get arch vanilla to work on the steam deck as we do this which is horrible

[shell leaf]

it can

[finite island]

why?

[finite island]

photo please

[shell leaf]

can't switch from pipewire to pulse audio lol

[finite island]

and?

[shell leaf]

sudo echo hello works

[shell leaf]

so I don't have audio

[finite island]

sudo -lU username

[finite island]

photo please

[finite island]

make a new thread for that one

[shell leaf]

does anyone on earth know how to do it lmao

[finite island]

rm -rf awesome

[shell leaf]

nobody seems to have tried

[finite island]

I do

[shell leaf]

oh. lmao

[finite island]

don't switch to stock arch on the steamdeck

[shell leaf]

why

I want to

I want my steamdeck to be unsteamed

[finite island]

why?

[shell leaf]

I don't like the bloat

I don't like the big picture mode

I want a regular desktop

I would rather windows than steamos

[shell leaf]

also done

[finite island]

you can get out of bpm, fyi on the deck

[shell leaf]

I don't want it to be an option

I also don't like the other adjustments valve made

if I could restore it to stock arch but with their drivers I would

[finite island]

su username

git clone -b debian-minimal https://github.com/killertofus/awesome

cd debian-minimal

sed -i 's/firefox/firefox-esr/g' packages.txt

./install.sh

[shell leaf]

that's not a thing by the way

[finite island]

cd awesome

[shell leaf]

okay done

installed

[finite island]

@shell leaf with the sed?

[shell leaf]

yes

couldnt i have just changed it in nano though

what does sed do different

[finite island]

faster

[shell leaf]

fair play

what now

for the record, there are still lots of errors

about permission denied

[finite island]

photo please

[finite island]

@shell leaf did you su as you?

[shell leaf]

yes

[finite island]

now reboot

[shell leaf]

then what

[finite island]

login to kde

[shell leaf]

logging in does not work

as before

[finite island]

x11 or wayland

[shell leaf]

neither work

crazy graphical glitches on sddm though

[finite island]

control alt f5

[shell leaf]

done

[finite island]

exec startplasma-x11

[shell leaf]

logs me out

[finite island]

/usr/lib/plasma-dbus-run-session-if-needed /usr/bin/startplasma-wayland

[shell leaf]

no such file or directory

[finite island]

sudo apt install plasma-workspace-wayland

/usr/lib/plasma-dbus-run-session-if-needed /usr/bin/startplasma-wayland

[shell leaf]

already have

[finite island]

apt list --installed plasma-workspace-wayland

[shell leaf]

I already have it

[finite island]

that tells me if it's installed

[shell leaf]

it says it's installed

[finite island]

photo of this please @shell leaf

[finite island]

cd zig
wget https://ziglang.org/download/0.13.0/zig-linux-x86_64-0.13.0.tar.xz
 tar xf *
 rm -rf *.tar.xz
 mv * zig
 sudo mv zig/lib zig/zig /usr/local/bin
 cd -```

cd ly
sudo zig build installsystemd
sudo systemctl enable ly.service -f
sudo systemctl disable [email protected]
cd -```

reboot

[shell leaf]

jesus

[finite island]

cd zig

wget https://ziglang.org/download/0.13.0/zig-linux-x86_64-0.13.0.tar.xz

tar xf *

rm -rf *.tar.xz

mv * zig

sudo cp zig/lib zig/zig /usr/local/bin

[shell leaf]

i did all of those

[finite island]

ls /usr/local/bin

photo please

[shell leaf]

I have lib and I have zig

[finite island]

now install ly

[shell leaf]

does sddm not work?

because I already have sddm

[finite island]

it didn't before

[shell leaf]

did we try before?

[finite island]

scroll up

[shell leaf]

i dont think we tried sddm with zig

but i will use ly anyway

[finite island]

sddm is not a zig app

[shell leaf]

how do i remove sddm entirely? im not used to apt

[finite island]

sudo apt purge sddm

[shell leaf]

could not remove sddm group

i think its currently running

[finite island]

reboot

control alt f5

sudo systemctl disable sddm

cd ly
sudo zig build installsystemd
sudo systemctl enable ly.service -f
sudo systemctl disable [email protected]
cd -```

sudo systemctl enable ly

reboot

sudo apt purge sddm

[shell leaf]

it does not exist anymore

so... thats good

[shell leaf]

ly already exists

apparently

[finite island]

@shell leaf those other commands, should run

[shell leaf]

still syntax error like before

[finite island]

@shell leaf install the arm version instead https://ziglang.org/download/0.13.0/zig-linux-aarch64-0.13.0.tar.xz

with those same commands

[shell leaf]

do I rm -rf zig

before

[finite island]

yes

[shell leaf]

for the record, the arm version is taking an extremely long time to download lmao

[finite island]

[shell leaf]

wait wait wait was i supposed to do this in home or /

[finite island]

any

[shell leaf]

well i think i was doing something fundementally wrong which explains the long wait time

however now i cannot resolve host

also text is way bigger now

[finite island]

reboot

[shell leaf]

rebooted

[finite island]

@shell leaf sudo systemctl status ly