#error loading into arch, cant boot

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spare heath
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i need help again, same issue as before i tried to arch-chroot into my system but i cant mnt boot, im unsure wtf is wrong with it and i dont want to reinstall due to the fact i have code not backed up on my system, the errors i get are these^

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no matter what i do it just says "error you need to load kernel first" or itll bluescreen

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running arch on my main pc, i have multiple harddrives plugged in, so if anyone asks to see them youll see theres a few harddrives

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i just need to try fix it

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i cant load any fallbacks or anything, i dont have a recent backup or anything, just need to fix

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i dont have secure boot enabled, this happened before and someone helped fix but its done it again, not sure why, it randomly does this and i cant get it to work again, any ideas or suggestions / help im open to

open kestrelBOT
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You didn't specify your root device properly

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Do you have the USB you used for installation

spare heath
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yeah

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i always keep a liveboot

spark aspen
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Arch-chroot and remount partitions

spare heath
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alright if i load up you want to try and explain and see if that works?

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i did that last time but couldnt remount boot

spark aspen
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your EFS needs to be formatted as VFAT, your root needs to be mounted first, then if you have a seperate home partition mount that under root, and your EFS to /mnt/boot

spare heath
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i cant mnt boot

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it wont mnt boot

spark aspen
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That means root isn't mounted properly

spare heath
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i can mnt yes but no mnt/boot

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i have the 1tb then a 1gig for boot

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but it wont mnt boot when trying

spark aspen
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Huh

spare heath
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want to me to show you?

open kestrelBOT
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You need to update your kernel parameters to have the correct rootfs uuid

xโ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) i always keep a liveboot

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FAT32 also works

ฬตฬŠฬ‚โ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) your EFS needs to be formatted as VFAT, your root needs to be mounted first, then if you have a sepeโ€ฆ

spark aspen
spare heath
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loading up my liveboot

spark aspen
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Replace sdx win your root partition, replace sdyn with your boot partition

spare heath
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ill try i doubt itll work, this shit caused me so many issues with it working randomly then not working the next day

spark aspen
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make sure to mkdir /mnt/boot if you don't add the --mkdir parameter to mount when mounting boot

open kestrelBOT
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You need to specify a rootfs partition

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in kernel parameters

spare heath
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loading up live boot now

spark aspen
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God these headphones drained my phones battery like me drinking water

spare heath
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ill have to do lsblk so i can see hdds

spark aspen
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ok

spare heath
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make sure i'm doing right one, i got way to my drives plugged

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ill show you what happens when i try mnt boot normally

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pretty sure my linux is sdb

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thats what happens if i try mnt boot normally

spark aspen
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Yeah you haven't created the mount point

spare heath
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alright ill do what you said now

spark aspen
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Yeah

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but replace the partition names with the correct ones

spare heath
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gonna guess that this is not normal

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wait? i think this worked

spark aspen
spare heath
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shii now what i do

spark aspen
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Reinstall the kernel

spare heath
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will i lose anything?

spark aspen
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Wait

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@hearty copper

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Could they lose data from reinstalling the kernel?

spare heath
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i just want to fix the issue of it not loading so i dont lose the code i have saved on my pc etc

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otherwise i woulda reinstalled

spark aspen
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Kernel reinstallation shouldn't affect your data

spare heath
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alright, then please explain exactly what i do haha

spark aspen
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uname -r

open kestrelBOT
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Ni

ฬตฬŠฬ‚โ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) Could they lose data from reinstalling the kernel?

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No

spark aspen
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sudo pacman -S linux-zen linux-zen-headers should work

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Wait nvm what kernel are you using

open kestrelBOT
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Wait a second

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What's the UUID of your rootfs

spare heath
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how do i check?

spark aspen
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i don't think the problem is their rootfs

open kestrelBOT
spark aspen
spare heath
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alright lemme load back up

open kestrelBOT
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the one you mounted on /mnt in the live usb is the rootfs

spare heath
spark aspen
spare heath
spark aspen
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Oh

open kestrelBOT
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Okay uhh which one of these is mounted on root

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spare heath
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im going to guess sdb

spare heath
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sdb2

spark aspen
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Oh

spare heath
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idk

spark aspen
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Yh

spare heath
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its one of them

open kestrelBOT
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fsck on the rootfs

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Also run a SMART test on all of them

spare heath
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send commands lmao

open kestrelBOT
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It's complaining about being unable to mount rootfs

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what filesystem do you use on /dev/sdb2

spare heath
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im unsure ๐Ÿ˜ญ

spark aspen
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check

spare heath
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how do i check

open kestrelBOT
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blkid

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the command is blkid

spare heath
open kestrelBOT
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btrfs device check /dev/sdb2 iirc

spare heath
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how and why are you typing with a webhoov

open kestrelBOT
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don't question
I'll tell later

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You have a bigger problem rn, don't you

spare heath
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yeah

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i genuinely hate this setup, i hate that i gotta use this shit for work lmao

open kestrelBOT
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Is this BTRFS setup spanned across the disks using BTRFS RAID

spark aspen
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oh

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It's ntfs

open kestrelBOT
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NTFS is in a dual boot from what I see

ฬตฬŠฬ‚โ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) It's ntfs

spark aspen
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sdb2 is ntfs

open kestrelBOT
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rootfs is ntfs?

spark aspen
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Apparently

open kestrelBOT
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It's btrfs

ฬตฬŠฬ‚โ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) sdb2 is ntfs

spare heath
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system has 1 windows boot and 1 linux the other hdds are backups

spark aspen
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I think they mounted the wrong drive

spare heath
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all are using different hdds

open kestrelBOT
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sdb2 is btrfs

spark aspen
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Oh

open kestrelBOT
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run a check on sdb2

spare heath
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how

open kestrelBOT
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Did you mount it at /mnt

spare heath
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lemme do that now

open kestrelBOT
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no, unmount it

spare heath
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oh

open kestrelBOT
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btrfs check /dev/sdb2

spare heath
open kestrelBOT
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I have bad news for you

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Your disk might be broken

spare heath
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no shit ๐Ÿ˜‚

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anyways mounted

open kestrelBOT
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Unmount

spark aspen
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no no no

open kestrelBOT
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and request a filesystem check

spark aspen
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I think sda2 might be the correct root

open kestrelBOT
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and also a SMART test

spare heath
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sdb2 is the right one lol

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all the others are windows

open kestrelBOT
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It is, now please check it for errors

ฬตฬŠฬ‚โ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) I think sda2 might be the correct root

spare heath
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so theres no way its the wrong one

spark aspen
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Try sda2

spare heath
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but isnt sda2 sth different

open kestrelBOT
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I would strongly advise a smart test as well

spark aspen
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It's also btrfs

open kestrelBOT
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btrfs check /dev/sdb2
smartctl -t short /dev/sdb
spark aspen
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No it's fat

spare heath
spark aspen
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Why are your screenshots wonkey

spare heath
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using phone lol

open kestrelBOT
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unmount /dev/sdb2

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spark aspen
open kestrelBOT
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umount /dev/sdb2

spare heath
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okie

open kestrelBOT
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Then rerun btrfs check /dev/sdb2

spare heath
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its checking

open kestrelBOT
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The filesystem is fine

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now request a smart test

spare heath
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okay

open kestrelBOT
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a short one

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smartctl -t short /dev/sdb

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not sdb2, you run smart tests on disks

spare heath
open kestrelBOT
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Now wait for 2 minutes

spare heath
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its doing it now

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what a way to spend my birthday lol

open kestrelBOT
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after that you can check the results with smartctl -x /dev/sdb

spare heath
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no happy birthdays just errors

open kestrelBOT
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Happy birthday!

xโ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) what a way to spend my birthday lol

spark aspen
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Happy birthday

spare heath
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this isnt happy anything ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿ˜‚

open kestrelBOT
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Aw sorry

spark aspen
spare heath
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i got 3months worth of code on this pc

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i need it back

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also has certain work related code on here

open kestrelBOT
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smartctl -x /dev/sdb

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seek for the word PASSED

spare heath
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when do i type what you sisf

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said

open kestrelBOT
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Now

spark aspen
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God I hate partition tables

open kestrelBOT
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It's been more than 2 minutes

spare heath
spark aspen
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Did not pass

open kestrelBOT
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smartctl -x /dev/sdb | grep passed

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It maybe did

ฬตฬŠฬ‚โ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) Did not pass

spark aspen
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But it doesn't say

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But it does say failed

hearty copper
spare heath
open kestrelBOT
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grep -i passed

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in the command

spare heath
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it says passed in red

open kestrelBOT
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Okay now you can mount it again

spare heath
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okay

open kestrelBOT
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And mount the boot under the appropriate directory

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and reinstall kernel

spare heath
open kestrelBOT
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Which should trigger a regeneration of initramfs

worn summit
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Are you using subvolumes?

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Because if you are you want to mount the root subvolume, not the BTRFS partition itself

open kestrelBOT
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If rootfs is a subvolume, it should be specified on the kernel args

spare heath
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well ive mounted now what i type ๐Ÿ˜‚

open kestrelBOT
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ls /mnt

spare heath
worn summit
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Yeah you're using subvolumes

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Delete that boot directory with rm -rf /mnt/boot

spark aspen
spare heath
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it errored anyways

open kestrelBOT
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rootfs=UUID=xxxx rw subvol=root

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and the kernel args go on

spark aspen
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Ohh

open kestrelBOT
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Ya that disk scares me

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spare heath
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yeah it scares me too

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what i do now lol

open kestrelBOT
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if the disk triggers an ATA error during the mdraid, lvm, fsck, mount, etc. operations before the initramfs hands the control off to the kernel, it panics

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Do you have another hard drive lying around

spare heath
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nope

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not that i can use anywYs

open kestrelBOT
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you need to backup your drive and get a replacement asap :/

spare heath
worn summit
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You don't want to be too quick to assume that it's a bad drive

spark aspen
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Yeah it passed the smart check

open kestrelBOT
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You should also check if it didn't displace in its socket

spare heath
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bro you wanna see the harddrive???

open kestrelBOT
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smart is a check the drive performs on itself

ฬตฬŠฬ‚โ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) Yeah it passed the smart check

spare heath
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its hanging out the back

open kestrelBOT
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Not me, but you would like to take a look

xโ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) bro you wanna see the harddrive???

spark aspen
open kestrelBOT
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Ya check if the connector fits properly

xโ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) its hanging out the back

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Also don't trust the friction between female and male SATA connectors against gravity

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Did you ever drop your drive

spare heath
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nah

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so what should i do?

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this not gonna work again?

open kestrelBOT
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Fit that drive in

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It will work

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It seems to be healthy

spare heath
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i cant lol

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i havent got any more wires

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the wire is to shirt

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short

open kestrelBOT
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can you put something under it

spare heath
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so has to sit like that

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nope annoying

open kestrelBOT
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So it stays level

spare heath
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also, how would this fix the loading error

open kestrelBOT
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It might be annoying but it's better than hanging your drive

xโ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) nope annoying

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By not causing a random connection failure

xโ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) also, how would this fix the loading error

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also check the socket

spark aspen
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HDDs should be deprecated

spare heath
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either way none of these would fix the kernel issue

open kestrelBOT
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They would
The kernel complains about being unable to find rootfs

xโ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) either way none of these would fix the kernel issue

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And we saw where rootfs is: its connection to the SCSI port is questionable

spare heath
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yeah not sure why it does that

open kestrelBOT
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Seismic events might be displacing your HDD

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so that the contact breaks

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put something under it
Hanging that HDD is dangerous

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The HDD should be resting level

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And there shouldn't be tension on the wire

spare heath
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doesnt wanna load at all now

spark aspen
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So it was the physical connection to the drive

open kestrelBOT
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Ya your disk is sliding over the SCSI comnector

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And gets disconnected

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Put something under it please

spare heath
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how

spark aspen
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Make sure it's either flat or vertical

spare heath
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most i can do

open kestrelBOT
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The friction between the male and female SCSI connectors is not enough to resist the weight of the disk

Sparkles-Tellulu @ Namsisโ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) And gets disconnected

spare heath
open kestrelBOT
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do you have any space behind the case

spare heath
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nope

open kestrelBOT
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aw

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Can you bring the case to front a little bit

spare heath
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i cant boot into it at all now

open kestrelBOT
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The disk displaced

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power your machine off before any more damage happens

spare heath
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restarted pc and unplugged resit now it doesnt boot to anything haha

open kestrelBOT
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Unplugged what

spare heath
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the hdd

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i moved the wires abit

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to try resit

open kestrelBOT
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Mhm

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did you plug it back in

spare heath
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yeah that hdd is dead lol

open kestrelBOT
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I'm sorry for your loss

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offers hug

spare heath
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its fine caused me to many issues

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atleast i can sell this pc now

open kestrelBOT
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You have your work stuff in it you said

spare heath
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maybe do SOMETHING for my birthday

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yeah i already realized this gon die

open kestrelBOT
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I'm sorry

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I'm so sorry

spare heath
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so fuck it, ill sell the pc get something for my birthday maybe even go and buy food lmao

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so how are you typing using the webhook?

open kestrelBOT
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PluralKit

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i am one of the 98 beings residing in the same head

spare heath
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ah nice

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bru what a banging birthday though

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yeah this is definitely done for

spare heath
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@hearty copper ^

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nothing else was showing on the drive so guessing its wiped anyways

open kestrelBOT
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probably worse things than just wipe

spare heath
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lol, hate this shit

spark aspen
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You could probably get the data recovered by a professional who knows how to deal with magnetic memory

spare heath
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@worn summit

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what if i grab another harddrive itd just be an external one and use that as main drive? would it be possible to swap over main things to it? aka files and everything

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i think it might be due to the fact of i made a mnt/boot file

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so its trying to boot from that maybe?

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since the boot file now is empty

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@spark aspen

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so maybe if i delete that file i created

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@worn summit

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what i do here? @spark aspen

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@hearty copper

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im tryna remove the boot file i made

open kestrelBOT
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ls /mnt/boot

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rm /mnt/boot/filename

spare heath
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because this is what it says now im bios but files still show up on my liveboot

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so gonna guess i messed sth up earlier

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aka, the making of the mnt boot file

spare heath
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would that be why its not showing up anymore?

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i needa undo whatever we did

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all i know is we mounted boot to a file we made

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so removing that file should fix that issue right?

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@hearty copper does that seem right?

open kestrelBOT
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What did you wipe

spare heath
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because the files show up on live boot, but, i cant boot into the hdd anymore normally

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i havent wiped anything

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all we've done is make a boot file

open kestrelBOT
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Hmm

spare heath
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lemme show you

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im loading up live boot

open kestrelBOT
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What bootloader did you use to use

spare heath
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grub

open kestrelBOT
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.arch-chan-uwu grub

open kestrelBOT
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Reinstall grub

spare heath
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im just trying to fix

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can you helo with that

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adding grub to the boot file should fix things

open kestrelBOT
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I don't feel well but I'll try

spare heath
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thank you

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lemme remount to the correct paths then we can start

open kestrelBOT
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Idk how the boot file works because my system doesn't recognise it :p

xโ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) adding grub to the boot file should fix things

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What I do is black magic in uefi shell

spare heath
open kestrelBOT
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Maybe

spare heath
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see it still shows there

open kestrelBOT
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Reinstalling grub should work on your implementation of uefi tho

spare heath
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so it should still be there

open kestrelBOT
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Unmount

spare heath
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yeah the files are definitely in there

open kestrelBOT
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When remounting, specify the switch -o subvol=root

spare heath
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so all files are there just gotta fix the issue of it not loading at all now

open kestrelBOT
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Then arch-chroot into it and do mount -a

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Ya I'm telling you the safest way to do that

xโ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) so all files are there just gotta fix the issue of it not loading at all now

spare heath
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okay bet

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step by step

open kestrelBOT
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  1. unmount everything you mounted
spare heath
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done

open kestrelBOT
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  1. Mount your root subvolume, specify your root subvolume while mounting with -o subvol=@ (or whatever your root subvolume is called)
spare heath
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what do you mean by that

open kestrelBOT
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You can see subvolumes with btrfs subvolumeisf

spare heath
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i know my root is sdb2

open kestrelBOT
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instead of doing mount /dev/sdb2 /mnt do mount -o subvol=xxx /dev/sdb2 /mnt

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where xxx is your subvolume name

spare heath
open kestrelBOT
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You can find it from btrfs subvolume list

spare heath
open kestrelBOT
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Okay uhh

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can you try mount -o subvol=@ /dev/sdb2 /mnt

spare heath
open kestrelBOT
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What do you see when you list /mnt

spare heath
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thats right correct?

open kestrelBOT
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It is

spare heath
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perfect

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so now we can fix the silly issues

open kestrelBOT
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arch-chroot /mnt

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mount -a

spare heath
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after this is fixed im backing up my entire hdd and moving it to a 8tb

open kestrelBOT
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Good luck

spare heath
open kestrelBOT
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Hmm

arctic owl
open kestrelBOT
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Then do chroot /mnt

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I guess

arctic owl
spare heath
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yeah it didnt

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lol

open kestrelBOT
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Well we need to install a bootloader

spare heath
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do i not have one?

arctic owl
spare heath
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im guessing since i made a new /boot i dont have any bootloader

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rightv

arctic owl
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What operating system and what filesystem were installed?

spare heath
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i think thats the right pronouns

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my bad if not

open kestrelBOT
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She

spare heath
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ah shit

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i couldnt see ur profile

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she/it/fae :p

spare heath
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my bad

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anyways

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Btrfs

xโ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) arch linux, "he" knows rhe filesystem

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With subvolumes

spare heath
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i had an issue before but then we made a /mnt/boot file and then it wouldnt boot at all

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so im guessing i need to fix that

arctic owl
spare heath
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im not as advanced with arch

open kestrelBOT
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It's the entire rootfs

vegancookiesโ€„โ†ฉ๏ธ

[Reply to:](#1322213308044021781 message) Was sbd2 root, or a partition just for snapshots?

spare heath
open kestrelBOT
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From what I see

arctic owl
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Where is /var for example?

open kestrelBOT
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If it was a BTRFS RAID it would have already been assembled

spare heath
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this only now doesnt boot at all because of the new /boot (im guessing)

open kestrelBOT
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It doesn't have a bootloader

arctic owl
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Thereโ€™s loads missing

open kestrelBOT
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That's why it doesn't boot

spare heath
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yeah

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it DID have one which had issues of not loading

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now doesnt have one

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so how do i fix?

arctic owl
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This is not an arch root partition

open kestrelBOT
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this doesn't even fit into the FHS

arctic owl
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Not unless someone has been deleting everything

open kestrelBOT
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snap makes me think about ubuntu

arctic owl
open kestrelBOT
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Anyways I'm going to sleep my throat is too sore
good night, hope y'all find a solution

arctic owl
worn summit
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Try running pacstrap /mnt filesystem with the root subvolume mounted

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That might fix some of the missing directories

arctic owl
spare heath
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hol up how i unmount

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it does have /var and shit

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theyre just in different folders

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i mounted to it now

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how do i get bootloader back though?

arctic owl
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i did it in wrong mounted part i think though @hearty copper

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but before then we can see it wasn't

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mightve been in a different folder though

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so how do i fix booting?

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@home as my user n shit in it /boot has nothing

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is reading that hard?
bin lib lib64 mnt opt sbin snap srv usr
It's all right there, right after sdb2 was mounted to /mnt
so we have no idea why you were missing a load of important root directories, and you don't seem to be able to tell us, that implies something very wrong has happened. Presumably home is mounted elsewhere. Do you have anything important installed on root?

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im not sure but @home as my user etc in it

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aka

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have you done this with the partition being mounted but not as a subvolrume?

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i thought i had subvol mounted

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not part

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Delete the directories that just got created

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Be careful not to delete any of the subvolumes

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how do i remove them lmao

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yeah

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rm -rf [directory]

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So cd into that directory and do rm -rf usr boot opt etc... etc....

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like that?

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@worn summit correct?

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should i remove that boot folder?

arctic owl
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yeah it does now

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should i remove the boot folder

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theres nothing in it

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from sdb2

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my guess is that would be fine but double check with @worn summit

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yeah just waiting on his response

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because i think creating that boot folder fucked it last time

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Looks good to me

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so remove boot folderv

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Oh yeah remove that too

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done

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will it actually boot now lol or will i have issues

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personally I'd just be backing up all the home files I want to keep and reinstalling, but that's me

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Now unmount that partition, and mount your root subvolume with mount -o subvol=@ /dev/sdb2 /mnt

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okay

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i forgot to add mount

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mount

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OOPs

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done

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right now im in right place right?

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in the root folder theres only snap ?

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I was going to have you mount the package cache but var seems to be gone lol

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Try running the pacstrap command now

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whats the command again?

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pacstrap /mnt base

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Run this instead this time

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done

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Hm I thought that might happen

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Because var is gone, so is the list of installed packages

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got that var folder now

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is that how it should be?

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You can try chrooting now

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arch-chroot /mnt?

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this isnt my arch lol

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unless its meant to be like that?

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my question, continuously, remains, what happened to the other directories? were they / are they on another partition?

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were they deleted?

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insde other parts i guess

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like my user etc

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all that shit is in different subs

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It shouldn't be

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yeah

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Oh

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i did ???

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I asked you what happened to them

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i said there in different folders

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Try running mount -a then

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like 4 different times

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right i did mount -a

arctic owl
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well i already said ion know what im doing lmao

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right so what now

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Does pacman -Q return a list of packages?

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That should show if your /var subvolume/whatever is mounted properly

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From chroot

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oh

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nope

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doesnt return anything

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no such file

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When you ran mount -a, was that in or outside of chroot?

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ill redo in chroot

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What does lsblk show?

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Do you know which partition etc is on?

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Because your fstab would be in that

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no idea

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i mounted out

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gonna guess there?

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What's in /mnt/@/etc/?

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pacman.d

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but thats what you guys added right?

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rebooting

arctic owl
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pc was frozen ?

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ts harddrive jus a ballache, fuck it just have to deal with the fact it aint gonna load again lmao

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if you reinstall (I don't know if @worn summit agrees that that is maybe the most sensible way forward or not) follow the following process:
Back up all files and folders you want to an external device. This should mostly if not entirely be made up of things from your home subvolume.
Decide what FS you want to use (perhaps btrfs would be too advanced for you, maybe try ext4?)
If you decide on something like btrfs:
Decide what you want the subvolumes to be, and where you want them located, do so in a way that you find easy to remember
If you don't, decide if you want /home to be on a seperate partition or not (I wouldn't bother personally)
Then when you've decided all of that, that's when you would reinstall, according to the plan you lay out, including deciding what drives you want to have which partitions

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I mean it might be fixable, but you may just want to transfer your important data to another drive instead

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If you reinstall I'd recommend going with a more normal partition layout instead of whatever this is

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id have to do that another day

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its my birthday and ive spent the entire day trying to fix it

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so just gonna give up for now

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