Unreal Engine Crashing on Nvidia 555 and 560

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Hi, I tried installing Unreal Engine with Nvidia 555 and 560 and it just keeps crashing.
Would somebody happen to have a clue if it's possible to work around this?
https://pastebin.com/ncD5Qume

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try nvidia-open

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wouldn't that be a downgrade?

an option is probably to downgrade back to 535-550 aswell but that's way too big of a downgrade overall to be acceptable

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no

pacman -S nvidia-open

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give me a minute, I got my favourite bug where sudo just doesn't recognize my pw so I gotta reboot rq

I'll @ you as soon as unreal is done installing and I switch to nvidia-open and give it a try.
Thanks for the advice!

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you're welcome

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Sorry for the early @.
I tried switching to nvidia-open from nvidia-dkms, but that just causes mkinitcpio to fail and nvidia-smi to not recognize drivers.
I haven't switched drivers in a long time, am I missing something?

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@shut belfry did you regenerate grub when switching?

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I didn't, good call, let me do that.

nah, I just did a full reinstall of nvidia-open, nv utils anb lib32 nv utils, as well as a grub cfg gen and mkinitcpio -P(which fails).

should I try to reinstall the zen kernel?

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@shut belfry try it and see

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yeah, I am honestly out of ideas, should I create a new thread for this issue or ask in quick questions?

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@shut belfry unreal, the game engine, or a game running unreal?

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the game engine

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@shut belfry have you considered godot?

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I've been using unity for years, godot simply doesn't do it for me and I am not a huge fan of the nodes system.
Not a fan of unreal system either but it's got the visual edge over unity and that's what I need it for now.
Wanna try playing around with cs2 demos and particles.

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@shut belfry Unreal Engine 5 or 4?

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5

I tried several ue 5 versions, testing with 5.5 rn

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@shut belfry did you install it from the aur?

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no, I got it from the unreal site because I don't have enough space in my root dir

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this could be the error

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wym

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this error

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oh, I mean possible, but I am not the only one having it, a lot of people reported it on the nvidia site and ue forums, I was just wondering if somebody here had a clue how to work around it

I'd like to try building it from source(aur) but I have like 50 gigs left on my root dir, is there a way to somehow build it in another dir and have a symlink to root?

not sure how that'd work, can't say I am too smart when it comes to systems

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why build in root?

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well root is where packages go afaik, am I mistaken?

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no

sudo pacman -Qttdq | sudo pacman -Rns -

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how come using timeshift on my root dir makes a complete backup of my system then?

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to remove orphan packages

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I've done that like an hour ago, just before I made this thread, I still have nowhere near enough space
├─nvme0n1p3 ext4 1.0 6a9419ce-309c-4bbf-b8c9-07942d136150 54.4G 58% /

unreal is >70GB

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pacman -Scc

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remove your cache

then reboot

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that gave me like 2 additional gigs, still nowhere near enough

├─nvme0n1p3
│    ext4   1.0                         6a9419ce-309c-4bbf-b8c9-07942d136150   56.3G    56% /

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remove the .cache folder

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that's in ~

I'll try what gpt just suggested, setting a custom build path for unreal

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no

pacman -Q > packages.txt

pacman -Qm > aurpackages.txt

then upload those please

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packages: https://bpa.st/FLSQ
aurpackages: https://bpa.st/FICQ

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@shut belfry we can shrink this

remove yt-dlp-git with the regular version

xdg-desktop-portal-hyprland-git with the regular version

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can't downgrade hyprland from git, need latest

yt-dlp is quite small already but sure, I can do that

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vmware for virt-manager

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I have both, virt-manager for gpu passthrough and vmware for a regular vm

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vesktop for the regular desktop version

unimatrix for cmatrix

replace jetbrains with vscode

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that one is not happening

recommendations are not even close

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python-pywall-16 with python-pywal

python-pywall-16 is not even in the aur

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I'll remove that one completely, I am not using it anyways

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it's a single l

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prismlauncher-qt5-bin for the native version

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not the same thing, qt5 uses the qt theme

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odd

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add a ! to debug packages in your makepkg.conf https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/packaging/packages/pacman/-/blob/main/makepkg.conf#L100

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what's that?

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why use jre8 instead of jdk8-openjdk?

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you have a debug package

paru-debug

you can remove that

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good question, I needed java 8 and just installed jre8 because it's java runtime so it made sense to get that instead of the development kit

no clue what the diff is anyways but ye

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use wl-clipboard instead of clapboard-git

why use binder_linux-dkms?

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I am already using the wl-clipboard but clapboard provides clipboard history, it's not a replacement but an addition

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replace the hyprland-git versions with the non git versions

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I don't even know what that is ☠️

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that's a really bad idea with hyprland, git versions are way more stable

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copyq

why use android-tools?

and android-udev

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I was flashing a custom rom to my phone, needed those

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remove baloo

why do you have brltty?

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I don't even know what that is

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why do you have debootstrap?

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ah

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why do you have discord and vesktop?

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I was testing if screensharingg worked on discord cuz I hate vesktop

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why do you have dos2unix?

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remove ebook-tools

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wish I could

kde is bloated af

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and element

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imma just remove the entire plasma anyways, I completely broke it either way

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element is a matrix client I use

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that's element-desktop

why are you using plasma and hyprland?

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I am not, I was just playing around with plasma and made it fully unusable ☠️

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then remove it

pacman -Rns plasma

what flatpaks are you using?

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sober

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and why are you using intel-oneapi-common

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the roblox player

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for sure need the first 2, actively using them

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no clue, prob a dependency of sm

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pacman -Rns gwenview

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yep

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pacman -Rns kio-extra

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I am using gwenview tho

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feh

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https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/feh/

why use mingw-w64-binutils?

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hmm, it seems to be missing some core functionality I use such as zooming in/out etc.

it is way faster than gwenview I must admit tho

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press up or down

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oh, that's nice

thanks for that one

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you're welcome

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also, I always did Rdd to forcefully remove pkgs, what's the diff?

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don't rdd

rdd is not recommended

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well yeah, but how else would you remove something that has deps

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https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/System_maintenance#Avoid_certain_pacman_commands

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if possible, I always just use Rs

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-Rns

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pacman -Rns plasma-workspace

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it's required by the kde portal which I use

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then sudo pacman -Qttdq | sudo pacman -Rns -

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replace it with xdg-desktop-portal-hyprland

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that one doesn't have a file picker

and -gtk file picker is pure ass

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xdg-desktop-portal-wlr and xdg-desktop-portal-xapp

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-wlr is not recommended with hyprland, let me look into -xapp

-xapp is using gtk in the background with some elements of other des

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it's already clean

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xdg-desktop-portal-gnome

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I ran a script my friend gave me too so it's as clean as can be:

#!/bin/sh

AUR_CACHE_DIR=$HOME/.cache/paru/clone
AUR_CACHE_REMOVED="$(find "$AUR_CACHE_DIR" -maxdepth 1 -type d | awk '{ print "-c " $1 }' | tail -n +2)"
AUR_REMOVED=$(/usr/bin/paccache -ruvk0 $AUR_CACHE_REMOVED | sed '/\.cache/!d' | cut -d \' -f2 | rev | cut -d / -f2- | rev)
[ -z "AUR_REMOVED" ] || rm -rf $AUR_REMOVED

AUR_CACHE="$(find "$AUR_CACHE_DIR" -maxdepth 1 -type d | awk '{ print "-c " $1 }' | tail -n +2)"
/usr/bin/paccache -ruk1
/usr/bin/paccache -rk2 -c /var/cache/pacman/pkg $AUR_CACHE

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gnome is gtk afaik, I want the kde file picker(that uses dolphin)

nautilus is painful because it auto selects the search bar and a few other major things

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you can make it use dolphin if it's the only file manager you have

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nemo/caja

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yeah, but if kde portal already does that, why not just use it

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good to know those exist, I'll look into them

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ntfs-3g was built into kernel 5.15 no need for that package anymore

nvidia-dkms is only needed if you are not using a stock kernel

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also, I am using zen, is it there too?

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yep, using zen

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remove libguestfs

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that's likely why open didn't work

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do you use ranger?

skype

zoom

telegram

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ranger - I wanna try to use it as much as possible but it's painful
skype - hurts but I need it for 1 professor in uni
zoom - sadly, uni
telegram - sometimes

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replace ranger with yazi

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I just tried both, I must admit I do prefer them to stock nautilus but they do have some fundamental flaws for me, like not sorting hidden before all, sorting capital letter dirs before the rest etc.

those are some of the main reasons I chose to use dolphin

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I think I looked into it before and preferred ranger for some reason but I genuinely can't remember why

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make a feature request https://github.com/orgs/linuxmint/discussions

also thunar

why have neovim and vim?

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yeah, I looked at all the cli file managers and ranger stood out, that was months ago tho so I can't remember why

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I use nvim daily and vim was just there ig, idk

imma remove it

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and winetrick?

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I don't have vim

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it's used for configuring wine, I use wine to run some apps(fl studio mainly)

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pacman -Q | grep vim

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yeah but I have neovim only, not vim

wym

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why use ydotool?

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ydotool is used in one of my programs
https://github.com/nnra6864/Hyprmouse

not sure if there's a more efficient way to interact w mouse pos on wayland wout interacting w wlroots directly

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upload that package to the aur

now pacman -Scc

then sudo pacman -Qttdq | sudo pacman -Rns -

then reboot

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I tried building it with python but the executable ends up being quite big and it takes way longer to open than running this with python directly

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then paru -Scc

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should I run my friend's script?

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yes

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uh oh 💀

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reboot again

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tyrns out I need ntfs3

that's what"s failing

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keep it then

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shit, it didn't load my network stuff yet, imma have to remove the hdd from fstab rq

done

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@shut belfry are you in?

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yeap, when I sent the done message

I've been testing different image viewers, settled on viewnior

it's as clean as feh and has slightly better binds imo

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now check how much space you got now

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56.6

no worries tho, I am building the engine into a custom path now, I edited the PKGBUILD and it's building to my Data dir now

we'll see if that fixes nvidia stuff

also, you helping me debloat the system was insanely useful, I've been meaning to do that for ages but never got around to doing it, thanks

:c

I am way too tired to deal with this now, I'll do it tomorrow and @ you with an update

thanks again

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no need to do that