#grub boot not appearing in uefi mobo bios

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pulsar lark
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does the mobo have secure boot on?

modern cradle
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shouldn't be let me check

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there is no option for secure boot in bios

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lol

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thats why

pulsar lark
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it's bios?

modern cradle
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yeah

pulsar lark
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not UEFI?

modern cradle
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it is uefi

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but can't seem to disable secure boot

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asus pbz68 v pro

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check

pulsar lark
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hold on, let check that board

modern cradle
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see

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same bios

pulsar lark
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that explains it, it's an older board

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hmm

modern cradle
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yeah

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its my server

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lol

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maybe bios update?

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3603 current bios

pulsar lark
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no shade lol, just accustomed to newer boards having those features, don't get me started, I was tinkering with computers in the era of BIOS, dual booting is hard now, then it was worse

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you shouldn't have to, specially if that board doesn't have fall back UEFI

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which with the other lacking features, it's probably missing

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let me look at some stuff real quick

modern cradle
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i guess it wont boot even in legacy mode if secure boot can't be disabled?

pulsar lark
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legacy should disable it though

modern cradle
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so reinstall under mbr legacy

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no other way?

pulsar lark
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This is old but it is for grub2

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which is the new grub

modern cradle
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Win-Raid Forum

Hello. I’ve been searching for a long time how to switch from Legacy to UEFI mode on this board, whenever I try it, it always halts at logo screen, nothing happens, so I’ve read on multiple forums that I need a modded updated BIOS for the board, but just can’t find it anywhere, only for Gen3 which I suppose isn’t compatible with non-Gen3. Is the...

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what about this

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lol

pulsar lark
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it's a risk but hey it's a server, swappable ebay components amirite

modern cradle
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no way to run arch with secure boot?

pulsar lark
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you can

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the wiki explains that too

modern cradle
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aha

pulsar lark
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.aw secure boot

modern cradle
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that ll work so

modern cradle
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?

pulsar lark
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should be section 3

modern cradle
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i mean it should work

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it detects win10 and its uefi

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so

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its just that this uefi mode can only keep secure boot enabled

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this is a pain

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in the aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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lol

pulsar lark
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win10 doesn't require secure boot is my understanding

modern cradle
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.aw pain

dark hollyBOT
modern cradle
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huh

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but it runs with also

pulsar lark
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computers that were not compatible with secure boot can't upgrade to Win11

modern cradle
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thats why its showing

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u can bypass that

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but yeh

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my main pc has a i5 11400f

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decent enough for me now

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so

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i did read

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you can't boot into windows with the signed personal key

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It is usually not possible to boot Windows by signing its bootloader (EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi) with a custom, personal key with Secure Boot Mode enabled, without enrolling the "Microsoft Windows Production PCA 2011" key in the UEFI Secure Boot variables:

pulsar lark
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welcome to proprietary shenanigans

modern cradle
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i ll still be able to boot into it without grub

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good enough for me

pulsar lark
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as long as the mobo sees the boot entry you're always good

modern cradle
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yeah

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thats the issue

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lol..

pulsar lark
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in the server does efibootmgr show you an entry for it?

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I will guess no

modern cradle
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can i just setup the secure boot from the arch install with laptop

pulsar lark
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that is outside of my linux knowledge by miles

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odds are no, my understanding of secure boot is that it's tied to the hardware

modern cradle
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i can also boot into it with secure boot enabled from laptop

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so should be ok

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just sign the boot files

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i guess

pulsar lark
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you can try that if you want

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just don't do pacman -Sy like they did

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it's always pacman -S or pacman -Syu

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those are rookie mistakes lol

modern cradle
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well i shouldn't update at all

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it ll grab the laptop hardware drivers

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xD

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<.<

pulsar lark
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he also uses systemd-boot

modern cradle
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yeah

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rip

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meh

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seems like u can't with grub

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im just done

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last solution install with mbr legacy

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and hope

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for the best

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lol

pulsar lark
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no just telling so you don't use the same commands

modern cradle
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can't i just convert

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uefi to legacy

pulsar lark
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it's just changing the commands to grub paths

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that's all

modern cradle
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gpt to mbr

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do you just convert it from gpt to mbr

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or u have to also convert uefi to legacy

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lol

pulsar lark
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both actually lol

modern cradle
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just reinstall i got it

pulsar lark
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may I ask why the install-here-and-move-the-drive-there scenario?

modern cradle
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?

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nothing

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was just testing

pulsar lark
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ah

modern cradle
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archinstall seems to do removable in automatic

pulsar lark
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didn't know that actually

modern cradle
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archinstall supports legacy bios?

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i guess u just set the partitions manually

pulsar lark
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yes, it's in the wiki

modern cradle
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i mean

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the automated install

pulsar lark
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That I have no clue, now you're triggering my PTSD lol

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hold on

modern cradle
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ahhahaha

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i ll let u know soon if it works or not

pulsar lark
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the answer might be no

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it checks the architecture you're on

modern cradle
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so if i boot the usb in legacy mode

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it ll install in legacy

pulsar lark
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I'm not sure if you tell it you're on legacy since the CPU will be like he's lying

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my google-fu says as long as legacy boot is on it should work but I don't trust it

modern cradle
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ll see

pulsar lark
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relevant?

modern cradle
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rufus doesn't want to make it mbr

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xd

pulsar lark
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how big is your drive?

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that also matters btw

modern cradle
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16

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arch is 1gb

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lol

pulsar lark
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no, sorry lol, I mean HDD

modern cradle
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500gb

pulsar lark
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oh that's fine

modern cradle
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actually no

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i think more

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only my linux is gonna be 500

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lol

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should be a 1tb

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so 900ish gb

pulsar lark
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that's still fine

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you're making me feel old by recalling that BIOS had a limit

modern cradle
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i have my windows 10 server installed on dual boot

pulsar lark
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till UEFI our lord and not savior showed up

modern cradle
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but

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i want to install arch

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and convert my current win10

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into vm

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and run it from arch

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with qemu or kvm

pulsar lark
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and use looking glass?

modern cradle
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what is that lol

pulsar lark
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checkout looking glass

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it's really nice but even with my modern system that was not working out

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I went back to dual boot

modern cradle
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nahhh

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i dont want gpu passthrough and this stuff

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its just a server

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i could give a gpu

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but nah

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i have 2 gpu on my main pc

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hahaha

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both bad but good for now

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an rx570 and a 1050 ti

pulsar lark
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I take a TI over an AMD card in that era

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though nvidia doesn't play nicely with linux

modern cradle
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what

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no

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its ok

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i used to do 1 gpu passthrough with this 1050 ti

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wtf

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why its showing rootfs

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instead of the classic root@archiso

pulsar lark
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on the prompt?

modern cradle
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yea

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after booting to usb

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sh can't access tty

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dafuq

pulsar lark
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@modern cradle sorry went afk

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fix it?

modern cradle
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hmm

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in what mode do i install the bios boot

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i mean

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format

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ext4

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or fat

pulsar lark
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I don't recall BIOS being able to see filesystems

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ext3 is a filesystem that is still around

modern cradle
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Then format the boot partition into vfat: mkfs.vfat /dev/sda2.

Finally, set the root partition into ext4: mkfs.ext4 /dev/sda3

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Also for bios

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Just GRUB installation is different

pulsar lark
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yep

modern cradle
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Just copy and paste these commands to install the bootloader.

mkinitcpio -p linux pacman -S grub grub-install /dev/sda grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

(please note that if you're installing this on uefi you should use these instead:

mkinitpio -p linux pacman -S efibootmgr grub grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi /dev/sda grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg