installation (solvedn'thn't)

[grand moth]

Im here

[proud storm]

mount /dev/sda2 /mnt

mount --mkdir /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot

[grand moth]

Did

Oh

[proud storm]

arch-chroot /mnt

were gonna mount the partitions again and then chroot

[grand moth]

Cant find

In fstab

[grand moth]

This

Directory

[proud storm]

ye just write the commands like that

[grand moth]

Cant find in fstab

Error

[proud storm]

there is a space between sda1 and /mnt btw

[grand moth]

Oh alr

[proud storm]

do them in order

[grand moth]

Oke

[proud storm]

its important the order

[grand moth]

Im.in chroot now

Ye i did

[proud storm]

sda2 first

then sda1

ok

type ls

what do you see

[grand moth]

Uh

Buncha directories

[proud storm]

ok cd boot

then ls

[grand moth]

Huh?

Cd boot cmd

Then ls

Alr

[proud storm]

type cd boot which is change directort to boot

ye

[grand moth]

Alr done

Ye i see

Grub

Init

Intel ucode

[proud storm]

what else

[grand moth]

And vmlinuz

[proud storm]

any efi folder?

[grand moth]

Nah

.img mostly

[proud storm]

ok type mkdir efi

[grand moth]

Done

Wats next

[proud storm]

grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --bootloader-id=GRUB

then this

grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

[grand moth]

Oke

Done

[proud storm]

ok try rebooting now

[grand moth]

Remove disk?

[proud storm]

remobe usb

ye

[grand moth]

Yay same god damn error

Lovely

No boot device

Back to live arch?

[proud storm]

go to biis

bios

[grand moth]

Alr

[proud storm]

show me the list again

this is most likely a problem with how the parition was formatted for boot

[proud storm]

go to hard drive bbs priotities

press on that

[grand moth]

Yes

[proud storm]

what do you see

[grand moth]

Boot opt 1

P0

Ssd1

[proud storm]

i mean the hard drive bbs priorities

when you press enter on it

[grand moth]

Ys

Thats what i see

Boot option 1

Ssd1

[proud storm]

ok go to the sercurit tab

[grand moth]

Ye

[proud storm]

what do you see

[grand moth]

Passwords

[proud storm]

picture here pls

[grand moth]

Io interface

[proud storm]

do you seee

secure boot?

[grand moth]

Ye

[proud storm]

press on secire boot

[grand moth]

Enable?

[proud storm]

disable

[grand moth]

It is

[proud storm]

ok

i honestly dont get it

go back to the live cd

[grand moth]

Okey

[proud storm]

there should be grubx64.efi in esp/EFI/GRUB

[grand moth]

How check

[proud storm]

do the mount steps again

and chroot

[grand moth]

Alr

[proud storm]

then check under /boot/efi

with ls

[grand moth]

With?

Ah

[proud storm]

ls is just listing the content of a directory

cd means change directory

[grand moth]

Oke

So im in chroot

Waht now

Mounted em

[proud storm]

ls

[grand moth]

Yeah uh

Wat now?

[proud storm]

then cd boot

[grand moth]

Same files as before

[proud storm]

and ls

[grand moth]

Ah

Efi file now exists

[proud storm]

grub.efi?

[grand moth]

Efi

Just efi

And grub

[proud storm]

ok cd efi

then ls

[grand moth]

But not together

In efi theres

EFI

[proud storm]

ok do this cd ..

to go back

[grand moth]

Cd dot dot?

[proud storm]

yep

[grand moth]

Back?

Out of chroot?

[proud storm]

no it goes up by one directory

[grand moth]

Oh

[proud storm]

so you go back to the boot foler

[grand moth]

Alr

Ye

[proud storm]

so ls and show me a pic something is wrong here

[grand moth]

Efi file is at the beginning

[proud storm]

thats not a file

its a directory

[grand moth]

Didnt pic it well

Directory xd

Yep

[proud storm]

rm -rf efi

[grand moth]

Done

[proud storm]

this deletes the directory with all its content

ls

[grand moth]

Yes

No more efi

[proud storm]

mkdir EFI

with capitals

[grand moth]

Done

[proud storm]

grub-install --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot --bootloader-id=GRUB

grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

then before you reboot check the boot directory

[grand moth]

Done

[proud storm]

make sure there is a grub.efi

[grand moth]

In chroot?

Or

[proud storm]

yes

in chroot

[grand moth]

WHY DIDNT U

SAY IT XD

[proud storm]

cd /boot/EFI

bro

[grand moth]

Wait nvm i am in chroot

Im dum

[proud storm]

yeah we are in chroot

[grand moth]

Uh

In EFI

Theres grub

[proud storm]

cd /boot/EFI

[grand moth]

No .efi

[proud storm]

then ls

[grand moth]

Yes im there

[proud storm]

show me whats there

[grand moth]

GRUB

Thats all

[proud storm]

good

[proud storm]

cd GRUB

ls

thats a directory

[grand moth]

Grubx64.efi

[proud storm]

cd GRUB then ls

good

try rebooting again, if it doesnt work this time the the boot partition was not formatted correctly

[grand moth]

If this doesnt work im fucked

Yeah

[proud storm]

not really

it can all be fixed

try rebooting remove the usb

[grand moth]

Ye

Im doin

OH

OHHH YES

IT DETECTED IT FINALLY

[proud storm]

good

[grand moth]

Wait fuck

Arhclinux login

[proud storm]

?

[grand moth]

Whats that

[proud storm]

root

[grand moth]

I put in my password

[proud storm]

and the password you wrote

he user is root

[grand moth]

Shiet

Alr so eat now

[proud storm]

then the password is what you wrote before

[grand moth]

How do i revert

Ye

[proud storm]

reboot

[grand moth]

Nvm

[proud storm]

hold the power button and try again

[grand moth]

I did it

[proud storm]

ok good

[grand moth]

Im in chroot

I think

[proud storm]

chroot?

[grand moth]

Root isnt red

[proud storm]

no

chroot means change root

[grand moth]

Ah alr

Okey

Ye so im in

[proud storm]

what happens is that there are two root when you were in the live cd

[grand moth]

This is minimal arch now?

Oke

Next is gui?

[proud storm]

the root of the usb and the root of ur hard disk

now youre in the root of your hard disk

ur usb is out

[grand moth]

Alr thankies

Yes

I gotta go eat now tho

[proud storm]

you have a minimal arch installatiom on your computer now

[grand moth]

Ill be back soon

[proud storm]

ye me too

[grand moth]

Yeppers

Alr cya soon

[proud storm]

later we can continue

good job btw

[grand moth]

U were helpful

Very

Thanks!

[proud storm]

np 👍

[grand moth]

Alr am back

So uh i want hyprland

I saw this one guy use an automatic config script tho

Shall i try it

https://github.com/prasanthrangan/hyprdots

That

But how do i check if my nvidia driver supports dkms drivers?

Or hypr

Where do.i check that

My gpu is 940m

Ah alr so i can install the package

But how?

Xd

Pacman -S nvidia

?

@turbid pawn

[halcyon vapor]

@grand moth would hyprland be your first wm?

[grand moth]

Ah haya

Yes

I cant really do kde or gnome i think

Big ram usage

Plus i want hypr cause it looks amazing

[halcyon vapor]

@grand moth I would recommended awesomefor "my first wm"

[grand moth]

Why?

Its special?

Easy?

Wat

Ah its kinda bubbly

I dont like the look xd

[halcyon vapor]

@grand moth

[grand moth]

Das it?

Wew

[halcyon vapor]

that's mine

[grand moth]

Okey

How easy is it to configure?

Amd btw i want hypr using the install script

[halcyon vapor]

pretty easy

[grand moth]

Gives me a default hypr

With no effort hopefully

Xd

So youre recommendin it to me cause its easy?

Or

[halcyon vapor]

it's a stepping stone to a different wm

[grand moth]

Which

[halcyon vapor]

any

[grand moth]

Wait i can switch em as much as i want?

Hmm so can ya help me in installin dkms drivers

For my nvidia gpu

[halcyon vapor]

@grand moth sudo pacman -Sy nvidia-dkms

[grand moth]

Ah

Failed

Core.db failed to download

[halcyon vapor]

@grand moth photo please

[copper lily]

Why Sy?

Either do S or Syu

[halcyon vapor]

@copper lily they are in the iso

[grand moth]

Ah

[copper lily]

Oh

[copper lily]

They look chrooted

[grand moth]

Alr im doin it

[halcyon vapor]

@copper lily scroll up

[grand moth]

So when i install em

Does it just work or?

Alr it failed again!

Same errors

[copper lily]

I don’t see anything about using Sy

[grand moth]

Alr so

Wat now

Do i use hypr

Or awesome

[copper lily]

You shouldn’t use Hyprland as your first WM

[grand moth]

Why not

[copper lily]

It’s very difficult if you don’t understand how a WM is configured already

I’d personally recommend i3

[grand moth]

Oh okey

I3?

Show meh

I want something atleast similar to hypr

[copper lily]

https://i3wm.org

[grand moth]

I like the translucent stuff

Ah

[copper lily]

You can do that in any WM

[grand moth]

Oh jeez

Idk if i would use that

I really dont like the look

[copper lily]

You can make any window manager look like pretty much anything

[grand moth]

Okey

So is awesome good?

[copper lily]

I’ve never used it

[grand moth]

Alr

Welp

Idk which one to use now

I guess awesome but

Idk how to install it

Or anything

[halcyon vapor]

sudo pacman -S awesome

[grand moth]

Das it?

Uh

[copper lily]

I’ve never seen awesome recommended as a good first WM aside from from you

[grand moth]

Sudo command not found

Wat

[copper lily]

Install base-devel

[grand moth]

So

[copper lily]

pacman -S base-devel

[grand moth]

Pacman -S base-devel

?

Ah

[copper lily]

Also you’re root rn so you don’t need to use sudo anyway

[grand moth]

What

Failed to retrieve

Everything

[halcyon vapor]

root doesn't need to use sudo

[copper lily]

Do you have network access

[grand moth]

Alr so big error

Yes

Wat i cant even ping websites cause of

[copper lily]

Are you absolutely sure. Ping something.

[grand moth]

"Temporary failure in name reso"

Yes im sure

[copper lily]

Yea you’re not connected to a network

[grand moth]

Wat tf

Might be my dumbass pc

It has connection problems

So how do i connect back?

[copper lily]

You’re booted into the system rn, right?

[grand moth]

I forgot

Yes

[copper lily]

Do you have NetworkManager installed and running

[grand moth]

No

[copper lily]

Reboot into the ISO and chroot

[grand moth]

I just got minimal arch

Into the iso?

Wdym

Into my usb?

[copper lily]

The USB

Yes

[grand moth]

Alr

Doin it

Alr

Im in

[copper lily]

Did you mount and chroot

[grand moth]

Yes ofc

Wait

Wdym

Rn?

Or

[copper lily]

Now

[grand moth]

I gotta mount everything again?

[copper lily]

Yes

[grand moth]

Damn

Alr so

[copper lily]

It’s not that bad

[grand moth]

Sda1 is boot

Sda 2 is base system

Gimme da cmds

[copper lily]

I don’t know how your partitions are laid out

[grand moth]

I forgor

Uh

[copper lily]

mount /dev/device /target/

[grand moth]

Oke

Uh

The target is wat

[copper lily]

mount /dev/sda2 /mnt/

[grand moth]

Done

Both

Now chroot?

Am in

[copper lily]

mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/boot

[grand moth]

Wats next

Yes i did that

I remembered for once

[copper lily]

Ok

Now run pacman -S networkmanager

[grand moth]

Errors

Again

Same shit

[copper lily]

Are you using Wi-Fi

[grand moth]

No internet god damn

Yes i just connected

But

My pc sucks ass

And disconnects randomly

Wat now?

[copper lily]

Did you install that?

[grand moth]

No

No wifi

[copper lily]

Connect again and install it

[grand moth]

Idk how to

I forgot

[copper lily]

Can you just use Ethernet or something

[grand moth]

Nope xd

No cable

[copper lily]

Can you tether with your phone?

[grand moth]

Nope

No port

[copper lily]

No USB?

[grand moth]

Nope

[copper lily]

Run iwctl

[grand moth]

In chroot?

[copper lily]

Outside

exit

[grand moth]

Alr ye

Im in it

[copper lily]

Follow this when in iwctl https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Iwd#Connect_to_a_network

[copper lily]

You mean out of chroot?

[grand moth]

Ye i am

[copper lily]

Now

[grand moth]

I did

Typing it pass

[copper lily]

Now

[grand moth]

Connected

Alr so

[copper lily]

Enter the chroot

[grand moth]

Wha

Missing operand

Wait nvm

Im dum

Alr in it

[copper lily]

.

[grand moth]

Done

[copper lily]

1 sec

[halcyon vapor]

@grand moth take a photo please

[grand moth]

Hm?

Its installed

[halcyon vapor]

@grand mothtype iwctl

[grand moth]

Shit

I did it in chroot

What now

Oh i can cancel

Net config disabled

Enable it?

[halcyon vapor]

yes

[grand moth]

How

Wat command

[halcyon vapor]

sudo systemctl enable

[grand moth]

Invalid command

@halcyon vapor

[halcyon vapor]

sudo systemctl enable iwd

[grand moth]

Invalid

Command!

Jeez im dying

[grand moth]

I tried

Too little space

God damn etf

Im not smart enough for this shit

Alr well now i have no idea what to do with my minimal arch install

[copper lily]

Did you run that in the chroot

[grand moth]

No

Out of it

I should run it in chrooot?

[copper lily]

Yes

[grand moth]

Alr

[copper lily]

rooot!

[grand moth]

Alr yay it works

Whats next

How to enable network thingy

[copper lily]

Did you install it yet

[grand moth]

Yes

I did

Wats next

[copper lily]

systemctl enable NetworkManager

[grand moth]

Done

Its still

Disabled

[copper lily]

Disabled or not running

[grand moth]

Disabled

[halcyon vapor]

@grand moth take a photo of that please

[grand moth]

Soo

[copper lily]

That’s not what/how you needed to check

[grand moth]

How?

[copper lily]

Just reboot into the system

[grand moth]

Into

The usb

[copper lily]

No

[grand moth]

Or system

Alr

[copper lily]

The system

[grand moth]

Okey so uh

Im in

Wat now

[copper lily]

Please tell me you ran this in the chroot

[grand moth]

I did

[copper lily]

run systemctl status NetworkManager

[grand moth]

Ooh

Running

Service enabled

Preset disabled

[copper lily]

Good

Are you on the internet

[grand moth]

Ye

Shit

[copper lily]

Great

[grand moth]

Cant ping again

Temporary fsilure

National?

[copper lily]

Run nmtui

[grand moth]

How

[copper lily]

Autocorrect

[copper lily]

.

[grand moth]

Just like that?

[copper lily]

Yes, nmtui

[grand moth]

Ooh

I did

Wat not

Now

[copper lily]

That’s a TUI to connect to the network

[grand moth]

Ye

I shall connect

[copper lily]

Activate a Connection

[grand moth]

So will this thing

Uh

Connect me

Whenever its available?

[copper lily]

Yes

[grand moth]

My router

Ah nice

[copper lily]

As long as the service is running of course

[grand moth]

Did it

Alr so

It will run when i boot up?

[copper lily]

Now what do you want to do

[grand moth]

Alr so i want awesome then

[copper lily]

Yes, that’s what the enable command you did earlier does

[grand moth]

Ah nice

So install the wm

Whats next idk

[copper lily]

Install awesome

[grand moth]

Yipp

[copper lily]

How do you want to start it

[grand moth]

Idk

Did it

What ways to start it are there?

[copper lily]

Graphical login screen? Command line?

[grand moth]

Graphical login screen

[turbid pawn]

wow this time i didn't hear the ping sorry it's been an hour lmao

[grand moth]

Lmao

[copper lily]

Did you make a user for yourself yet

[grand moth]

Uh

I dont think so

No idea how to either xd

[copper lily]

useradd -m yourname

[grand moth]

Did

[copper lily]

What’s the username you chose

[grand moth]

Nova

[copper lily]

Uppercase n?

[grand moth]

Yes

[copper lily]

Wait what

[grand moth]

Ill remember it

Wat

Yeah uppercase n

[copper lily]

ls /home

[grand moth]

Nova

[copper lily]

Send the actual output

[copper lily]

How tf

[grand moth]

Lmao

Wat

[copper lily]

Did you —force-badname

[grand moth]

No

Just useradd

[copper lily]

Delete that user and make one that’s all lowercase

[grand moth]

Oke

Delete user?

Uh

Userremove?

[copper lily]

userdel -r Nova

[grand moth]

Mail spool

Not found

[buoyant flint]

I also have capitalized though ._.

[copper lily]

I gtg

[buoyant flint]

people freak out when i show them this

[grand moth]

Aw

Xd

Welp

I guess il sort this out tommorow

Babay all of ya

[buoyant flint]

Byee, keep at it, I also installed like 3 days ago! arch is the best!

[grand moth]

Hahah

Wat wm u use?

Or de

[halcyon vapor]

@grand moth dwm

[buoyant flint]

Kde

Plasma

[grand moth]

Ah

Welp

Cant run dat sadly

[buoyant flint]

You soon will, just gotta setup the user and stuff

[grand moth]

Soon will?

Naw ill use awesome

I want hypr

Not a de

[buoyant flint]

Oh I mean you will use whatever you want

[grand moth]

Ah xd alr

Welp

No idea how to delete

[buoyant flint]

I just like de cuz i came straight from windows

[grand moth]

It now

Ah nice

[buoyant flint]

what commands did you run?

[grand moth]

Well

[buoyant flint]

what was the last command?

[grand moth]

Nonexistant Nova

[buoyant flint]

run ls and show

ls

it should show home

[grand moth]

It doesnt

Show anything

[buoyant flint]

can u send a pic

I just wanna make sure

[buoyant flint]

so you now have deleted Nova

[grand moth]

Oh oke

Soo new user

Oke its here now

Non capped nova

[buoyant flint]

Yeah, also, teh convention is to use only small letters. I'm guessing before arch didn't allow capital letters. But my name is "Igris" on arch, and I have never faced a problem

[grand moth]

Yeah alr

So whats next

[buoyant flint]

But it doesn't matter

[grand moth]

I dont know

I wanna setup my wm now

Its awesome

[buoyant flint]

I actually don't know what you have done so far

[grand moth]

Btw

So ye

[buoyant flint]

🙂

[grand moth]

Well installed awesome

Made user

Thats it

I wanted hypr

But ari said nah

[buoyant flint]

So, tbh I never tried any of that. I only have tried KDE

:((

I can't help you from here

[grand moth]

Oof welp

Thanks anyways

Cya tommorow

[buoyant flint]

People here are great btw! The arch user stereotype is not true at all!

[grand moth]

Yeah hahah

[buoyant flint]

wanna see me desktop?

the uhh

wallpaper?

[grand moth]

Sure

[buoyant flint]

This is what it looks like out of the box, I never changed it. I only took the task bar from below to above, thats all.

[grand moth]

Oh wow

Kewl

Ye

[buoyant flint]

: D

[grand moth]

Looks very gud

I sadly have a terminal!

And thats it

[buoyant flint]

But kde and other DE are bloat though

But I have a nice GPU

most of the time the most efficient use of resources is not through the DEs

[grand moth]

Yeah

Hypr is gud for exaample

I want a wm not a de

[buoyant flint]

window managers are light and nice

[grand moth]

They use very few resources

Yepppers

https://tenor.com/view/linux-arch-linux-thanos-linux-user-gif-20727042

[buoyant flint]

LMFAO

[grand moth]

Xd

Welp

[buoyant flint]

window managers are the most arch btw esque ways of using arch

[grand moth]

Cant wait to get the actual damn gui

Ye

I wanna play some fuckin steam games

[buoyant flint]

cs2?

[grand moth]

No

Fuck dat

[buoyant flint]

oh

[grand moth]

Arma 3 and terraria

[buoyant flint]

TERRARIA

I wanna play terraria

[grand moth]

Yeppers xd

Ah

Buy it!

[buoyant flint]

i will try, after my finals

[grand moth]

Ah okey

[buoyant flint]

which are next week

[grand moth]

Yepperos

[buoyant flint]

if you struggle with getting the right driver for gpu, and activating the correct driver lemme know! I am going to sleep now, Its midnight.

[grand moth]

Okey!

Thanky

Altho see

The thing is

With the hypr scrjpt

It does that automatically

Idk why i cant just do that

Hypr automatic config

https://github.com/prasanthrangan/hyprdots

See

Dat

[buoyant flint]

I don't know much about this. But the linux installation basically gave you an opensource gpu driver, which you have to blacklist at somepoint, if you want to make use of the GPU. But maybe in your case you may not need to do that. If you don't hear the fans running when trying to run the GPU. or just run the command glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer" and it does not show the desired GPU, then know that you have not yet blacklisted the opensource driver, and you are not using the GPU.

[grand moth]

Okey

Yeah the hypr

Does that

Finds the driver and configures it automatically

Amd gives u default hyprland

[buoyant flint]

Thats nice, I had to struggle with that ; (

[grand moth]

Yeah

I wanna use the script

But ari says no

Cause im a beginner

Seems better to use that but alr

[buoyant flint]

Listen to those who already been using what you want to use

ari might be the one

so do it when he comes back

[grand moth]

Yeah

Well idk what he uses

Not hypr

I think its kde aswell

Uh well ill go with awesome tho

Already installed it

[buoyant flint]

I mean the arch users have tried everything, so doesn't matter, they prolly know alot

[grand moth]

Ye xd

[buoyant flint]

I am almost as new as you are

Anyways, Imma go sleep, Good Luck!

[grand moth]

Ye haha

Thanks

Sleep tight

Gudnight

[copper lily]

I sometimes use Hyprland on my laptop because of the touchpad gestures (looking into newm-atha though), but usually just use XFCE. On my desktop I use i3.

[grand moth]

Ah okey

Idk i really dont like how i3 looks like

Plus it says its made for programmers n stuff

Alr so what do i have to do to use awesome as my wm?

[copper lily]

My desktop looks nothing like i3 does by default. Really, you can make WMs look like anything

[grand moth]

Ill do it tommorow

[grand moth]

Okey

But idk how to

[copper lily]

There’s nothing that actually requires you to be a programmer

[grand moth]

Yeah ik

But its made for em

And idk how to customize it like you do

So whacha want me to use?

[copper lily]

You’ll learn

[copper lily]

I’d prefer that you use i3 but it’s up to you

[grand moth]

Eh

Okey

Whats the difference btw?

[copper lily]

Configuration files are different, different functionality, different documentation

[grand moth]

Betterm

?

[copper lily]

What

If you’re asking which one is better, I can’t answer that. Also WM preferences are highly subjective.

[grand moth]

Yeah uj

Well why would i3 be better than like awesome

If theyre so subjective

I want one that looks gud

And is relatively good in general

[copper lily]

It’s easy and has great documentation as well as online discussions about issues/help with it going back many years.

I’ve never used awesomewm so I don’t know how good it is, especially for a new user

[grand moth]

Ah

Okey

Then ill use i3

[copper lily]

Ping me when you’re ready to get going tomorrow. I’ll respond as soon as possible.

[grand moth]

Okey

Right when i come back home ill ping ya

Thanks for da help

[copper lily]

I may not reply immediately, fyi. I’ll probably be in school.

[grand moth]

Yeah okey

[proud storm]

@grand moth sorry was night here

went to sleep

Anyways, I read what you guys have been doing. First of all you already installed iwd so you do not need networkmanager

Second, I don't suggest using wayland. Xorg has a much longer history which equals much more support that wayland will not replace for a while.

Third, I wouldn't suggest installing a desktop environment like kde, gnome, etc... I wouldn't recommend using any scripts neither. The whole point of installing arch is to setup everything from ground up the way you like it . If youre gonna use a DE anyways, then it would have been better to use another distro like ubuntu pop etc

Fourth, there are alot of windows manager you could use with Xorg but my personal bias is i3. I managed to setup everything using i3

[halcyon vapor]

@proud storm that last sentience was wrong

[proud storm]

which the DE?

[halcyon vapor]

yes

if you want a de = go back to ubuntu

[proud storm]

How come? DE are bloated to make everything work from the start. You hardly have control of what a DE does. Ricing them can be much more difficult than a WM. Ubuntu and other distros already come with DE, so I dont see many reasons to go through the trouble of installing arch just to get a DE

[halcyon vapor]

then why can you install a de on arch then?

everything = bloat

if you are going to use a kernel go back to ubuntu then

using a monitor = go back to ubuntu

keyboard? go back to ubuntu

[proud storm]

Arch still has some advantages over other distros. AUR for example. One might like how gnome just werks but may also want a package manager like AUR. My point is gnome and other DE include stuff that you may not use

[halcyon vapor]

you can remove them

[proud storm]

That's were my point comes. Its difficult to remove them. VERY much. Sometimes you'll need extensions, sometimes you cant find an extension that does what you want.

[halcyon vapor]

you can remove packages? go back to ubuntu

you can install packages? go to ubuntu

anything? go back to ubuntu

gatekeeping arch

[proud storm]

bro no need to get heated. I am just saying my experience from them. For example, the default display manager has no way you can edit its wallpaper. The only way is very much bugged and maintained by a single person. Replacing it with lightdm introduces all sorts of graphical glitches (maybe due to interaction with the default compositor)

I am not gatekeeping bro

Like I said arch has some stuff you want to use

I would understand installing a DE on arch is better than going back to ubuntu since there are some stuff you can use

[halcyon vapor]

I used kde on arch, now I am on dwm

[proud storm]

Great, to each his own. I was just telling @grand moth my opinion. He seems like he wants to learn how to rice desktops and imo ricing is much better when using a wm since youve got more control

If he wants a DE regardless, then I am not stopping him, I can show him how to do so

[grand moth]

Well i never said i wanted a de

I always said from the start

That i want a wm??

Alsp hay gud mornin

@proud storm

So wat wms are xorg?

I shall use those if ya think theyre da best for me

And ye i wanna learn ricing

I wanna make my wm look as best as i can make it look

[grand moth]

Oh wait ure also tellin me to use i3

And so is ari

Why did you make those sentences in a way that makes it seem like i want a de?

Which i have never said in these 2k messages we got in this channel

I wanted to do i3 aswell now

[proud storm]

Yo, I was just pointing out advantages/disasdvantages of using DE. Also doesnt matter what wm you use, personally I use i3

[grand moth]

Oke

I shall go with i3 then

May i see how your desktop looks like then?

[proud storm]

one sec

[grand moth]

Cause i dont like the way that base i3 looks like

Reminds me of templeos xd

[proud storm]

im back

[grand moth]

O hay

Im in school rn

So pic?

Btw ive never used a wm before so yea

OH

GOD DAMN

That looks friggin amazing

I want smth like dat!

Btw why do ya blur out yo host name?

Should i do that too when sharin neofetch?

[proud storm]

thanks, nah no need to blur i just do it for the sake of privacy

[grand moth]

Ah okey

So ye

I would love to get smth like dat

Same transparency

Colour

Is kewl

Altho darker blue

[proud storm]

ty ty ill show ya how to install i3 later, gotta go run some errands now

[grand moth]

Ah oke

Ill be back home prob by then

Thanks!

[proud storm]

cool cya

[buoyant flint]

I installed i3 today! using xinit, It's great but I don't like the fact that I can't set a background image without a compositor

I guess I should just use picom

But yeah, gotta say Window Managers could the thing for me! I'm a KDE plasma user.

[grand moth]

Ooh

Compositor?

Whats dat

He uses a comp i think

He has da kewl image

Also show me ya rice!

[buoyant flint]

I havent setup i3 yet, I can use it though

I just have a normal background

[grand moth]

Oh okey

[buoyant flint]

what step r u on?

rn?

[grand moth]

Terminal xd

Im in school

Havent installed i3

[buoyant flint]

oh, didn't you setup the users yesterday?

[grand moth]

Ye

Nova

[buoyant flint]

have you set the passwd for the user?

[grand moth]

Non capitalized

Uh no

Didnt set it up completely

[buoyant flint]

ohh

Can you use the user

[grand moth]

Idk xd

[buoyant flint]

How can you log into nova then?

[grand moth]

No.idea

I just made it

It says nova

Nothin else

[buoyant flint]

Ohhh

So you're in root rn right?

[grand moth]

Yep

Terminal rooto

Alr low battery

[buoyant flint]

Don't forget to set the passwd, other wise you won't be able to use the user

[grand moth]

Cya when im home

Ye

[buoyant flint]

Okay

[grand moth]

Can i

Use the same pasawd?

As root

Xd

[buoyant flint]

It is considered more secure not to

But your choice, you totally can

[copper lily]

You don’t need a root password in the first place

(You didn’t ping 😢)

[grand moth]

Huh

How

I set my pass for root tho

[grand moth]

Not home

Going home rn

3 percent batt tho xd

[buoyant flint]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with setting a root passwd

[copper lily]

passwd as root

[grand moth]

Uh

Alr so idk wat to do now

It asks me for root passwd

When i boot up

[copper lily]

It’s less secure and not necessary, but there’s inherently nothing wrong with it.

[copper lily]

Where

[grand moth]

Less secure?

When i

Boot up

Alr then ill remove it

Ill show ya

Gtg now

Cya

[copper lily]

Cya

[grand moth]

Alr

Am home

Also see

It asks me for da pass

If i type nothin in its wrong

So i dont need a root pass?

@copper lily

Ill remove it and make my user then

Btw i havent made the swap partition

I wanna do dat now too

@proud storm

No idea which one of ya 2 is more knowledgeable

So ill ping both xd

[copper lily]

Sorry I’m busy rn

[grand moth]

Oh okey

Talk to meh when ya aint

Both of ya

When u guys have time

[proud storm]

@grand moth use the password you made during the installation

[grand moth]

Ye

Thats the one

I logged in

[proud storm]

good

now we need to add a user

[grand moth]

Ye

I added nova

Whats next

[proud storm]

oh rly

good

[grand moth]

Yepper

Soo i wanna make the swap part aswell