#Secure boot on an EndeavourOS and Win11 installation

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tepid perch
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but obv replace --bootloader-id=(anything you like :))

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like GRUB

delicate rivet
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oh

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thought a number

serene dome
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also no parenthesis

tepid perch
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--bootloader-id=GRUB

serene dome
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can we put it in a string?

delicate rivet
serene dome
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"grub"

tepid perch
serene dome
tepid perch
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enter

serene dome
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it just

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feels better

tepid perch
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nah just GRUB

serene dome
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arch

tepid perch
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since it has windows too

serene dome
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arch is easier to see

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i mean the choice would be windows or grub

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sounds wierd

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so arch

tepid perch
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grub will list Arch linux and windows

serene dome
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it dosent matter tho @delicate rivet

delicate rivet
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oh its gonna be the selection thingie?

serene dome
serene dome
tepid perch
serene dome
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for my friend it was grub

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also he dosent have windows in grub

tepid perch
serene dome
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neither do i

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did i do anything wrong?

tepid perch
delicate rivet
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finished. no errors reported

serene dome
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exit

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i think we are all set

tepid perch
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NO

serene dome
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wut

tepid perch
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sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

serene dome
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holly shit

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sry

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if you exited then arch-chroot /mnt

delicate rivet
serene dome
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why are humans bad at memory

serene dome
tepid perch
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no

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don't exit

serene dome
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wut

tepid perch
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wtf

serene dome
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whats left now?

tepid perch
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@delicate rivet open /etc/default/grub

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Go to the last line and uncomment this line and set it to false

delicate rivet
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with nano?

tepid perch
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yes

serene dome
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what does that do?

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i dint do that part in mine

tepid perch
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like windows

serene dome
delicate rivet
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okay done

tepid perch
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now execute the grub-mkconfig one again

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you can use the keyboard arrows by the way

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So you don't need to wrote the command again

delicate rivet
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but it didnt find windows?

tepid perch
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then try again

delicate rivet
tepid perch
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Ok that can be solved later anyways

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you need to install a display manager now (aka login)

delicate rivet
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okay

tepid perch
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where you select the user and put the password for it, etc

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since you are using kde plasma you can just install sddm

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sudo pacman -S sddm-kcm sddm

delicate rivet
serene dome
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why not boot in rn to see the fruits lol

delicate rivet
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i dont mind finishing everything before booting

serene dome
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alr then

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cya guys

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ima take a nap now

tepid perch
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sudo systemctl enable sddm NetworkManager

delicate rivet
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thanks for your help @serene dome

nimble fossilBOT
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delicate rivet
tepid perch
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now

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do exit

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umount -R /mnt

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And restart

delicate rivet
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how do i restart?

serene dome
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reboot

delicate rivet
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and i will not boot into the USB stick?

serene dome
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no

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spam the key for bootloader

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you will boot into the boot priority

delicate rivet
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okay

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its showing the selection menu

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i can select arch

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windows is not there yet tho

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i boot into arch now?

feral elk
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Sure

delicate rivet
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error

feral elk
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Hm?

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What is it?

delicate rivet
tepid perch
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what

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the

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fuck?

delicate rivet
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idk

tepid perch
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well

feral elk
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Show the first line

tepid perch
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that is very weird

feral elk
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As a whole

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Oh sorry

delicate rivet
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which first line?

tepid perch
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cat /etc/fstab

feral elk
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I was zoomed in bruh

tepid perch
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please

delicate rivet
feral elk
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I feel sorry for @delicate rivet

tepid perch
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do ls

delicate rivet
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ah and there is a var

tepid perch
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mhm

delicate rivet
tepid perch
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ls new_root

delicate rivet
tepid perch
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execute

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mount

delicate rivet
tepid perch
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ls new_root/sbin/init

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file new_root/sbin/init

delicate rivet
tepid perch
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well

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that doesn't make any sense

delicate rivet
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hmm

tepid perch
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Anyways I guess this is getting really anoying for you

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Would you like to troubleshoot it for you? I can connect to your system remotely and execute commands and shit

delicate rivet
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if you want to

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how do we establish the connection?

tepid perch
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boot into the arch iso

delicate rivet
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the stick?

tepid perch
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yes

delicate rivet
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okay

tepid perch
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connect to the internet

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and then sudo systemctl start sshd

delicate rivet
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how do i reboot?

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i typed reboot but nothing happened

tepid perch
delicate rivet
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booting up...

delicate rivet
tepid perch
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now

tepid perch
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sudo pacman -S tmux

delicate rivet
tepid perch
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sudo pacman -Sy tmux

delicate rivet
delicate rivet
tepid perch
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sudo pacman -Sy tmux

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just do that

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-Sy updates and download the database

delicate rivet
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done

tepid perch
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now

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execute tmux

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and execute this

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password is lolxd

delicate rivet
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done

tepid perch
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oh it didn't redirect it

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do ctrl + C

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sudo systemctl status sshd

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send photo

delicate rivet
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oklay

tepid perch
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is almost the same but without localhost on it

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ogh

delicate rivet
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done

tepid perch
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sudo journalctl -f -u sshd

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and see the output

delicate rivet
tepid perch
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oh

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close the connection first

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ctrl + C

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then do the command

delicate rivet
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what is it doing there?

tepid perch
delicate rivet
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yes?

tepid perch
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same password

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lolxd

delicate rivet
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okay

tepid perch
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close it

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try

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last hope

delicate rivet
tepid perch
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ok

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i am fucking

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dumb

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I was typing the command wrong all the time

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THAT is the ONE

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are you executing the command inside tmux right?

delicate rivet
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yea

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Hmm

tepid perch
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what does it says?

delicate rivet
tepid perch
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yeah fucking finally

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do

delicate rivet
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I honestly have to pause here for today since I have to wake up early tomorrow, can we continue this tomorrow?

tepid perch
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well, this was the fun part

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I can literally end the instalation in 10 minutes lol

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it's up to you

delicate rivet
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damnn my phone is slowww rn

tepid perch
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xD

delicate rivet
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ima text on pc now

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well so 10 minutes are okay

tepid perch
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do ctrl + B and the press the double quote key "

delicate rivet
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it worked

tepid perch
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Inside of it do passwd and change the password

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put anything on it

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1234

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idk

delicate rivet
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done

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i can read it

tepid perch
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type restart

delicate rivet
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Omg it worked

tepid perch
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put the password of your user then

delicate rivet
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Did it

tepid perch
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enjoy then

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fucking finall

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I guess we never installed a terminal emulator

delicate rivet
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okay

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yea

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cant find it

tepid perch
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cltr + alt + f3

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login

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then

delicate rivet
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and then there is still the thing with windows

tepid perch
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sudo pacman -S konsole

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wait for konsole to be installed and come back to the desktop using ctrl + alt + f1

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or f7

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i don't remember

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just try every f key

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lol

delicate rivet
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f2

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btw in the login screen the keyboard layout was still wrong

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but now that im logged in it is the right one

tepid perch
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you can do that later

delicate rivet
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okay

tepid perch
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It has been like 3 or 4 hours of installation

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I want to do another thing lol

delicate rivet
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yea

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xD

tepid perch
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Feel free to open a new ticket or some shit

delicate rivet
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thank you for your help so far

tepid perch
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if you don't understand anything

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np

delicate rivet
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i mean i still wanted to ask about the finger printer

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finger scanner

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finger print scanner

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for login

tepid perch
delicate rivet
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hmmm

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i guess ima try adding windows to the boot loader tomorrow

tepid perch
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You can boot windows from the bios right?

delicate rivet
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no

tepid perch
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really?

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thanks HP

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very useful...

delicate rivet
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the boot menu doesnt let me choose between grub or windows

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in uefi

tepid perch
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then how you did boot grub?

delicate rivet
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i can send you a screenshot

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not screenshot

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but photo

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in this setting it will just load grub

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before i disabled bitlocker, everytime id have secure boot enabled it would boot into windows automatically

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ignoring the grub boot loader of the EndeavourOS i had installed instead of this Arch previously

tepid perch
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Open dolphin

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and try opening your windows partition from there

delicate rivet
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dolphin?

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seems like its not installed

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okay i installed it

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i can access my windows partition

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that works

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for tomorrow

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cuz i need these files tomorrow

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🦉

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okay thats all i need for today, thank you a lot

tepid perch
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ok!!

delicate rivet
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for everything else i'll just create new posts

tepid perch
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try using sudo grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

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Just to see if it detects the windows efi partition now

delicate rivet
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nope

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it didnt

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ah wait

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it did

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i didnt see it at first

tepid perch
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fixed

delicate rivet
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omg

tepid perch
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now you can boot windows

delicate rivet
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now its perfect

tepid perch
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yes

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but

delicate rivet
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that legit makes me so happy rn

tepid perch
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make sure ofthis

delicate rivet
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it works

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i can boot into windows without having to enter some keys i dont know

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even tho secure boot is off

delicate rivet
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i did that like one or two days ago

tepid perch
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oh good

delicate rivet
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okay

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im off to bed

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really thank you a lot!

tepid perch
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np

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good luck

delicate rivet
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especially for all this patience

tepid perch
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you will need it

delicate rivet
feral elk
halcyon imp
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any progress here?

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did you end up leaving secure boot on or did you just turn bitlocker and secure boot off?

feral elk
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Also instead of endevour we ended up installing arch itself

halcyon imp
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fair enough

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i've had trouble installing endeavour on machines with secure boot

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fiddly

feral elk
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Why does anybody use endevour?

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Also why did you leave your secure boot on?

halcyon imp
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archinstall didn't always exist

feral elk
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It's still easy

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Dont use arch install eithee

halcyon imp
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endeavour is as close to an out of the box usable arch experience that you can get without needing to do it manually

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its a great stepping stone for people coming from ubuntu etc

feral elk
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Not really

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It contradicts the entire point of using arch in the first place

halcyon imp
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i mean so does archinstall

feral elk
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Yes

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I mean kinda

halcyon imp
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some people need a functional system, and want the flexibility to modify it

feral elk
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You do make decisions in arch install compared to pre build in endevoyr

halcyon imp
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endeavour is just arch but with the low level decisions made for you and documented

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so you can still tweak it a lot just like you would arch

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i used endeavour for like 8 months while i learned enough to be able to do an arch install properly first try

feral elk
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I mean atleast it's not manjaro

halcyon imp
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yeah

feral elk
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I sat for a week trying to learn arch installation

halcyon imp
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its manjaro done properly

feral elk
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A week cos of trial and error

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I think my support page was somewhere here

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It made me a better arch user compared to when I used archinstall

halcyon imp
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yep, that's why i did endeavour first (at the recommendation of people here), cause I wanted to use arch but i couldn't afford to not have a functional machine while i did it (and vms are cringe)

feral elk
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Vms are cringe

halcyon imp
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so i installed the arch installation tools (arch-chroot etc) on my endeavour install

feral elk
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My friends told me I could brick my pc on arch install

halcyon imp
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not archinstall

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but with the arch installation tools on the arch usb you could

feral elk
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Bruh

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I used endevour once

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It came with corrupted /home

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Twise

halcyon imp
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e.g. if you wanted to you could overwrite your efivars and brick your uefi

feral elk
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Never looked back again

feral elk
halcyon imp
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ofc, its also something that's hard enough to do that you can't really do it without knowing what you're doing

feral elk
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So now what do you use??

halcyon imp
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arch with swaywm

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i went from ubuntu->endeavour (i3)->arch (i3)->arch (sway)

feral elk
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I started on arch

halcyon imp
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and toying with the idea of going to hyprland

feral elk
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Went to fedora due to fearmongering

halcyon imp
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hehe

feral elk
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Came back anyways

halcyon imp
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based

feral elk
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It's so stupid when people cry over new users using arch

halcyon imp
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it depends what you need from your machine, i just couldn't afford to be stuck in a tty when i needed my laptop for work etc

feral elk
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Lol

halcyon imp
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hence the ubuntu/fedora first mentality

feral elk
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Well yeah it makes sence

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But I dint give up easily

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I had a rough ride tbh

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I hated windows so much I wasted a week of my life

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And nobody was willing to help

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Everybody just posted the wiki

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The wiki felt too complicated for no reason at all

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I mean it's a guide on how to install arch

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Only beginners would need it

halcyon imp
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the number of times i've wrestled with a problem for hours/days/weeks

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only to find that there was a note on the wiki for this exact thing that i skimmed over every time i went back to look at it

feral elk
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I asked what the package name of things I need to install discover

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There was an optional package

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Packagekit-qt5

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This guy wont tell me, he'd send me the pacman wiki page bruh

delicate rivet
tepid perch
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HP is such a bad notebook company

halcyon imp
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Tbf dell fprint sensors don't work either

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@tepid perch is this a HP elite book per chance?

serene dome
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it costs more too and overall looks ugly

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it give a laptop a pice increase of an average headphones

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some people may like it idk

halcyon imp
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its convenient if it works