Most programs don't detect audio devices

[pallid cargo]

Discord, spotify and spotify_tui can't detect any audio devices but I was able to play a youtube video in firefox with audio working.
How do I get these programs to detect my audio devices?
(this is on a fresh install, it has never worked before, I'm also not using a desktop environment, just hyprland)

[timber nacelle]

are you using pipewire or pulseaudio or maybe you aren't sure

[pallid cargo]

I think I'm using pipewire but pulseaudio is also installed (it's probably a dependency of something?)

[timber nacelle]

install pipewire-alsa pipewire-jack and pipewire-pulse

[pallid cargo]

will do that when I get back to my computer

[pallid cargo]

that removed pulseaudio

and it helped

thanks!

except that spotify-tui still doesn't detect the devices, but discord does now?

and also the audio doesn't work in discord, but it does see the devices now

[timber nacelle]

pipewire-pulse is pipewire's implementation of pulseaudio, that's why pulseaudio got replaced with it

[pallid cargo]

Ah I see

can't play yt videos now as well, they just keep buffering, had this issue before and a reboot fixed it then

I guess I'll reboot and see if anything changes

back

yt videos work again, audio included

spotify-tui still doesn't find any devices

but discord audio does work now

[timber nacelle]

there were 3 APIs for managing audio in linux: Alsa, Jack and Pluse Audio.
pipewire provides it's own implementation of these APIs so that it can communicate with programs that require pulseudio, jack, or alsa.
you can't really use pipewire and pulseaudio at the same time tho.

[pallid cargo]

I think I might have some jack stuff installed as well

How would I check for that?

pacman -Q jack just returns pipewire-jack

so I think it's fine

[timber nacelle]

you can't have jack, pacman would have made you replace it when you installed pipewire-jack

[pallid cargo]

that's probably what happened then

any idea why spotify-tui doesn't show any devices?

[timber nacelle]

idk how spotify-tui works, it's weird that it isn't detecting the audio devices

[pallid cargo]

spotify itself is also incredibly broken, can't view liked songs, can't play a song

[timber nacelle]

i have to go, google around for issues relating to audio detection with spotify-tui

[pallid cargo]

I think it's something related with spotifyd, it wasn't even installed on my system

which is probably the issue

thanks for the help!

[pallid cargo]

I'm now using a different spotify client ncspot, it works flawlessly

maybe I'll try to fix spotify-tui one day but for now I'm happy with ncspot

[timber nacelle]

it seems like a spotify-tui issue

[pallid cargo]

Yeah I think so too

[timber nacelle]

you can file a bug in their bug tracker

[pallid cargo]

there was one but they closed it saying "you need spotify premium" which I think the person who posted the issue did have

https://github.com/Rigellute/spotify-tui/issues/310

though, my phone is found and maybe this issue is really only about nothing appearing at all

which is not the case

I just don't see any audio devices

[pallid cargo]

now ncspot isn't working properly for some reason

ugh