cloud steppe
Section "Monitor"
# HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName "Acer XB253Q"
HorizSync 31.0 - 255.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 240.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
I looked in the nvidia-settings and noticed when I do "save to configuration file" -- i do a preview and i noticed this in the settings. It knows it's got 240hz.
i tried to put it in the xorg
no luck.
i tried to revert to nvidia-525xx and that didnt work
i went back to the usual driver (nvidia-dkms and all the rest)
figures
"make a post, you're likely to get more answers there"
.. okay!
looks like i'm talkin' to myself. ;/
.. oh well.
opaque cloakBOT
.. oh well.
cloud steppe
had to block that bot.'
cloud steppe
I can't figure it out. It's some sort of configuration issue.
cloud steppe
... it just shows 120 now for my monitor instead of 240
opaque cloakBOT
... it just shows 120 now for my monitor instead of 240
cloud steppe
it used to show 240
it's a config problem
and i dont know where it is to fix it
when i got into nvidia settings
just listen
earnest belfry
so xrandr says that your monitor's maximum refresh rate is 120?
earnest belfry
this happened to me when I physically set the monitor's settings and disabled something like freesync
are you sure you haven't done that?
or the reponse time on the monitor settings
earnest belfry
then the response time? anything?
cloud steppe
not display port
earnest belfry
have you not modified the monitor's physical settings?
cloud steppe
i havent done anything ot the monitor settings actually.
aside from changing 120 to 60 with xrandr
but it wont do 240
sigh.
and i have not
its the way it is before.
it isnt changed
i never fucked with the OSD or anything
didnt need to
i did try different cables
but beyond that, no
earnest belfry
"I looked in the nvidia-settings and noticed when I do "save to configuration file" -- i do a preview and i noticed this in the settings. It knows it's got 240hz."
cloud steppe
different cables and ports
cloud steppe
no look
just look
ection "Monitor"
# HorizSync source: edid, VertRefresh source: edid
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName "Acer XB253Q"
HorizSync 31.0 - 255.0
VertRefresh 56.0 - 240.0
Option "DPMS"
EndSection
earnest belfry
this is an xorg config
cloud steppe
thats what it sees when i click "save x configuration file"
yes
and i click preview
and i saw that
so it KNOWS
it sees 240
so i know it's not like.. not seeing the availability
i dont use their xorg file
earnest belfry
and in the GUI nvidia settings app it's not there?
it's only in the config preview?
hard plaza
I have an integrated GPU as well, and no, i don't really use the integrated one
What do you mean by this? Is this a laptop or a desktop?
Also, nvidia-xconfig and nvidia-settings adding stuff into xorg.conf's cause issues rather frequently. Better have clean, empty xorg.conf.
cloud steppe
laptop
i can show you my custom x
that i've used for 3 years now
and there is zero wrong with it
its not that. it's some sort of configuration somehwere
it happened after i installed optimus-manager
hard plaza
Are you disabling the iGPU and running the graphical session with the Nvidia GPU?
hard plaza
it happened after i installed optimus-manager
aha this :D
hard plaza
yes why do you have it?
cloud steppe
just was trying it because i was trying passthrough
i was just trying stuff
didnt think it would do this
i removed it
earnest belfry
smh I knew nvidia-settings had a CLI interface so now I'm trying to find documentation
cloud steppe
[nitro@NITRO5 ~]$ nvidia-settings --assign="RefreshRate=240"
ERROR: The attribute 'RefreshRate' specified in assignment 'RefreshRate=240'
cannot be assigned (it is a read-only attribute).
[nitro@NITRO5 ~]$ sudo nvidia-settings --assign="RefreshRate=240"
[sudo] password for nitro:
ERROR: The attribute 'RefreshRate' specified in assignment 'RefreshRate=240'
cannot be assigned (it is a read-only attribute).
nope.
i also tried the /etc/environment variables
no go
hard plaza
I think you should clean up what optimus-manager and nvidia did to your xorg.conf, then try xrandr on a clean configuration.
cloud steppe
i did
nvidia did nothing as i did not save it
i will show my xorg now.
my custom xorg
hard plaza
ok
cloud steppe
its the only way this will work as a dual monitor
earnest belfry
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1920x1080_240"
EndSubSection
would this work?
cloud steppe
nope, tried it
it just goes to 120
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "layout"
Screen 0 "nvidia"
Inactive "amd"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "nvidia"
Driver "nvidia"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "nvidia"
Device "nvidia"
Option "AllowEmptyInitialConfiguration" "true"
Option "AllowExternalGpus" "true"
Option "metamodes" "nvidia-auto-select +0+0 {ForceCompositionPipeline=On, ForceFullCompositionPipeline=On}"
Option "RegistryDwords" "PerfLevelSrc=0x3322; PowerMizerDefaultAC=0x1"
Option "AllowIndirectGLXProtocol" "off"
Option "TripleBuffer" "on"
Option "Coolbits" "28"
EndSection
Section "Device"
Identifier "amd"
Driver "amdgpu"
BusID "PCI:5:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "amd"
Device "amd"
Option "TearFree" "true"
Option "DRI" "3"
EndSection
this makes the monitor primary by default, the dedicated GPU
the integrated AMD stays on the laptop still
works well
earnest belfry
interesting how other attributes work
nvidia-settings -a "SyncToVBlank=0" works for me
cloud steppe
oh god no
Attribute 'SyncToVBlank' (NITRO5:0.0) assigned value 0.
i dont know if that'll help
hard plaza
for what specific reason did you add that config?
earnest belfry
what error did you get when you tried wayland?
cloud steppe
thst why
hard plaza
It should only be needed to make some options on nvidia-settings work
cloud steppe
i dont remember
earnest belfry
do you have the DRM modules loaded?
cloud steppe
it was justa blank screen, i did no dmesg, it was quite some time ago
nvidia_drm i think
ill check lspci
hard plaza
pacman -Qs "(mesa|nvidia|nouv|xf86-video|optimus)"
lspci -k | grep -C 3 -i vga
cloud steppe
...
opaque cloakBOT
Too few arguments for command note!
Usage: .note <name>
cloud steppe
what are you
earnest belfry
Add the modules nvidia , nvidia_modeset , nvidia_uvm and nvidia_drm to /etc/mkinitcpio.conf and run the command sudo mkinitcpio -P
Add the kernel parameter nvidia-drm.modeset=1 to /etc/default/grub and run the command sudo update-grub
did you try this when you tried wayland?
this always worked for me
I have a gtx 1050
after I did this and rebooted all wayland compositors just worked
cloud steppe
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation TU117M [10de:1f99] (rev a1)
Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:1447]
Kernel driver in use: nvidia
Kernel modules: nouveau, nvidia_drm, nvidia
01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:10fa] (rev a1)
Subsystem: Acer Incorporated [ALI] Device [1025:1455]
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
cloud steppe
did you try this when you tried wayland?
it was the secondt hing i tried
earnest belfry
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation TU117M [10de:1f99] ...
this is interesting
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050] (rev a1)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. GP107 [GeForce GTX 1050]
Kernel driver in use: nvidia
I don't have nouveau loaded
earnest belfry
this is really hard
cloud steppe
i loaded it because i was uninstalling drivers for gfx and needed display
earnest belfry
you seem to know what you're doing
cloud steppe
yes i do
earnest belfry
good luck
cloud steppe
i have been using linux for 15 years.
earnest belfry
5 years here
cloud steppe
i just haven't blacklisted it yet, although that isn't necessary
and yes this is difficult
its some configuration issue
i gotta figure it out.
i dont know where the hell its at
i dont know what got configured
hard plaza
You are trying to set up and fix everything through Nvidia land, while your laptop's graphics is driven by the iGPU. I find this to be at least a convoluted way.
cloud steppe
i think im gonna have to look into optimus
@hard plaza close.
they both need each other
so i decided to literally give them correct drivers
it's worked well for 3 years now
earnest belfry
what does the iGPU do when the nvidia module is loaded?
cloud steppe
without xorg?
its amdgpu so
wouldnt matter
and it works fine
lol
because you can do modesetting for it
but if we mean no config, empty xorg, it wouldnt work
earnest belfry
so when you tried wayland you just got a black screen?
earnest belfry
what compositor was it?
cloud steppe
i dontw anna talk about wayland
earnest belfry
oh ok
hard plaza
Optimus laptops work best with doing no config at all.
In the past, you needed stuff like optimus-manager.
There has been many cases here where issues were solved just by removing everything done on the system regarding GPUs and graphics.
cloud steppe
no wayland
earnest belfry
i also love how your type indicator is turned off 😂
hard plaza
but if we mean no config, empty xorg, it wouldnt work
what wouldn't work?
cloud steppe
igpu if i had no xorg and nvidia loaded without amdgpu
you asked about my integrated graphics
hard plaza
i don't understad
cloud steppe
i think you dont exactly know what this is
it's muxless
they work together
they're not 100% separate
hard plaza
yes, just like mine
cloud steppe
sigh
well then you should understand.
stop asking questions about what it does with nvidia is loaded, nothing bad happens
just what should happen
if it sees an incorrect driver
hard plaza
ok, it seems you are not open to help
hard plaza
I personally helped at least 3 people here that had issues with their Optimus laptops
cloud steppe
im not trying to shut help down
that's great, but this isnt the same thing as getting them to work is all im saying.
earnest belfry
nvidia-settings --query RefreshRate
does this just print out your current refresh rate?
Attribute 'RefreshRate' (pc:0[dpy:2]): 165.00 Hz.
'RefreshRate' is an integer attribute.
'RefreshRate' is a read-only attribute.
'RefreshRate' is display device specific.
'RefreshRate' can use the following target types: X Screen, GPU, Display Device.
cloud steppe
see @earnest belfry is actually doing what i asked
which is trying to come up with a solution.. i mean i'm out o fideas
so how would i be closed to help
Jesus Christ.
everyone gerts offended
earnest belfry
I remember when I "overclocked" my 60hz monitor to 73hz by modifying the EDID? (i don't remember really), it was like 3+ years ago
cloud steppe
THAT is cool
earnest belfry
so I could add custom refresh rates just like on windows
so wouldn't that help here?
cloud steppe
it could
but.. i do want to find the root cause here
however
yes we can try some shit
earnest belfry
is this 1080p?
earnest belfry
cloud steppe
okay this likely wont work.. but i have nothing to lose
hard plaza
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation TU117M [10de:1f99] ...
where is your amd gpu?
can you find it in the lspci -k output?
cloud steppe
07
thats not gonna work now
it wasnt even systemd then
it was init
so
im not gonna be able to do what i need to do
its my job
like theres a reason they gave me a laptop with a 1650 in 2019, that wasnt bad back then
im fucked i guess, like im getting fucked in the ass by optimus-manager
cloud steppe
@hard plaza
^ you asked for lspci
i gave you everything
alright he saw it
thats all i was wondering
hard plaza
I was just confused because your reply to lspci -k earlier did not include the amd gpu.
cloud steppe
um
it just showed the two VGA active
i didnt show you everything
but this time i did
gleaming topaz
not display port
I can’t search threads so I may have missed something, but have your tried using DP? Most high end monitors can’t reach their rated specs with HDMI.
cloud steppe
this doesnt have display port
gleaming topaz
Weird
cloud steppe
it does
gleaming topaz
That’s probably your issue then
Try a thunderbolt to DisplayPort adapter if your laptop has a thunderbolt port
cloud steppe
cloud steppe
Try a thunderbolt to DisplayPort adapter if your laptop has a thunderbolt port
no, it doesn't have one.
and that would not work ayway
i tried dhmi to dp
gleaming topaz
no, it doesn't have one.
What does it have
cloud steppe
no go.
gleaming topaz
and that would not work ayway
Why?
gleaming topaz
i tried dhmi to dp
HDMI to DP is completely different than Thunderbolt to DP.
cloud steppe
yes
correct
that has nothing to do with what i was just saying if you read it
i think you might have thought i was trying to say the lightning to dp wouldnt work
gleaming topaz
What *does* it have
.
hard plaza
and you mentioned it worked before and started not working only recently, so the port is probably not the issue
cloud steppe
the port is fine man
i tried multiple cables
HDMI cords
different ones
just to make sure
theres no difference in HDMI 1 or 2
this is a gaming and graphics monitor
gleaming topaz
What I’m saying is that HDMI of any kind probably won’t work.
cloud steppe
wont work with what.
gleaming topaz
We’ll see I guess. I’ll keep an eye on this thread.
gleaming topaz
wont work with... what?
Your high refresh rate on your monitor.
cloud steppe
what are you even... talking about? i think you are thinking im trying to argue a point and im absolutely not
no, that's incorrect
it's been 240 for 3 years.
gleaming topaz
Okay then
cloud steppe
so you're wrong, dead wrong, sorry
120 is now what it is, optimus-manager had some warning as well when i had installed it for stupid reasons..
gleaming topaz
Ok
cloud steppe
just because i wanted something to work so bad
the warning was about the power not being controlled so it would always be at max
thats all, but i think there's more
i dont know where to find this
it's a config
i know it
this is NOT a hardware issue
let's get that straight, that way there is no confusion
alright?
go figure.. im just being direct
im not trying to offend anyone
i am realizing what im saying looks bossy and annoying
pretentious
my apolgies.
apologies*
@gleaming topaz
I'm sorry
cloud steppe
interesting tidbit of information...
when i take the nvidia card down to further resolutions, i can only only do up to 60hz. it should be going higher if i go down further in resolution, not lower...
cloud steppe
its a driver issue
i downgraded to the one right before 530.x
gonna need to add taht to ignorepkg
let me make sure
cloud steppe
yeah, it was a driver issue.
