Won’t go past the login screen.

[real cipher]

you are probably just logged on basic i3/dwm with no bar and no wallpaper ...

[crystal mason]

I have them installed for a while now. I don’t think that’s the case, lemme check ig.

[real cipher]

if you see your cursor then yeah, something is wrong with your config

[crystal mason]

No, I don’t see the cursor.

I am not that dumb turns out, it doesn’t work.

[real cipher]

mmh could it be an issue with your graphic driver?

[crystal mason]

How do I know?

[real cipher]

startx if you have xorg-xinit

[crystal mason]

How do I do that?

[real cipher]

from the login prompt? or you don't have one?

what do you see after the boot?

[crystal mason]

I use lemur, yes.

[crystal mason]

Just black

[crystal mason]

How do I do that?

[real cipher]

you can switch to another tty with ctrl+alt+f3 to f6

and try to run i3 from there

also I'm not familiar with lemurs, but looking at their doc, you can also check that your i3 script is in /etc/lemurs/i3 and had the execute permission

[crystal mason]

@real cipher , sorry for the wait time, I’m back.

The monitors now started flickering

[real cipher]

@crystal mason mmh can you check if you own Xauthority? ls -l .Xauthority

is the file owned by your username?

[real cipher]

@crystal mason rm .Xauthority and try again

[crystal mason]

Ok brb

[real cipher]

wait what, did you delete the file right?

[crystal mason]

Yes

[real cipher]

ls -l .Xauthority again, is it still root

?

if yes it looks like root is trying to start X everytime

[crystal mason]

Cannot access it because it don’t exist

[real cipher]

can you type whoami

[crystal mason]

mortadelas

Yes

[real cipher]

and also stat /home/mortadelas

[real cipher]

@crystal mason can you type ls -ld /home/mortadelas

to make sure you have rw permissions

[real cipher]

ok good, try to reboot and login again

[crystal mason]

Nothing.

[real cipher]

can you ls -l .Xauthority now?

[real cipher]

that really shouldn't be owned by root

not sure what is creating it, but try to set it manually

[crystal mason]

How?

[real cipher]

chown your_username .Xauthority

[crystal mason]

i3 worked okay, I rebooted to go into dwm, it didn’t work, and now neither of them work.

[real cipher]

it worked running from startx or from lemurs?

[crystal mason]

Startx

[real cipher]

yeah because I'm sure Xauthority is back to root

[crystal mason]

How do I fix this permanantelt?

[real cipher]

@crystal mason still wondering why Xauth keeps resetting as root

[crystal mason]

Idk, do you know if anyone else can help?

[real cipher]

mmh I can ask

[crystal mason]

Please do

[real cipher]

meanwhile, can you run provide some more information:
ls -l ~
then run cat on your startup scripts in /etc/lemurs/wm or wherever your startup scripts are

[real cipher]

oh wait, could it be that you compiled your lemurs from root?

@crystal mason

[crystal mason]

Hmm

Idk

But it worked for a while now?

Reinstall?

[real cipher]

try to install another dm light lightdm

disable lemurs, turn on lightdm, login, remote lemurs and try to install it again

then replace lightdm with lemurs again

[crystal mason]

Can you help me do it step by step please? I don’t got a working computer so

[real cipher]

so, login with your username

[crystal mason]

Yes

[real cipher]

then run systemctl disable lemurs.service

lemurs not display-manager, my bad

then pacman -Rns lemurs-git

then pacman -S lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter

[crystal mason]

It’s installing

I did it as root though

It’s alright though, right?

*with sudo

Okay done

[real cipher]

sudo is not root, sudo lets you run commands with elevated privileges but they command is still ran as your username

[crystal mason]

Yeah I forgor

Now what?

[real cipher]

ok next open /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf with a text editor

edit this line

[Seat:*]
...
greeter-session=lightdm-yourgreeter-greeter
...

set greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter

then systemctl enable lightdm.service

[crystal mason]

Now reboot?

[real cipher]

yes

[crystal mason]

Now, log in?

[real cipher]

yes, select the wm you want in the corner and try to login

[crystal mason]

What corner?

Oh yes my

B

It tries to boot, goes black for a couple of seconds, and then it goes back to the login screen.

[real cipher]

@crystal mason can you show the logs? /var/log/lightdm/lightdm.log

[real cipher]

mmh can you jump to another tty again

and check ls -l .Xauthority

[quiet swift]

Did you have an .xinitrc file when running startx?

Otherwise it uses the default in /etc

This might not help, but I define my own .Xauthority .xserverrc .xinitrc for startx, all of which I put inside .config/ to keep my home tidy. Perhaps defining these manually would help your case, apart from the tidiness reason.

In .profile (or any startup script you might have)

exec startx $HOME/.config/.xinitrc -- $HOME/.config/.xserverrc

.xserverrc

exec /usr/bin/Xorg -nolisten tcp -nolisten local "$@" vt$XDG_VTNR 

.xinitrc

# load package-managed config additions.
if [ -d /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d ] ; then
    for f in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/?*.sh ; do
        [ -x "$f" ] && . "$f"
    done
    unset f
fi

xset r rate 330 30 &
xset -b &
xsetroot -solid '#11111d' &

xbindkeys -f $HOME/.config/.xbindkeysrc &
xrdb -load $HOME/.config/.Xresources
xrandr --output eDP-1 --mode 1920x1080
xrandr --output HDMI-1 --auto --right-of eDP-1

exec dwm

For your issue, you might just try the very first line before calling startx (or anything else you use to start the session), and nevermind all my other configs:

export XAUTHORITY="$HOME/.config/.Xauthority"

[crystal mason]

Wait

I think I’d pasted some shit on a .something file

[crystal mason]

Nope, not it.

.profile doesn’t exist, neither does zserverrc

.xinitrc only has exec i3.

Idk if it’s bad, because I want to also use dwm.

[quiet swift]

put exec dwm in .xinitrc instead of exec i3

then call startx or exec startx from the tty, rather than startx dwm

[crystal mason]

I get this error

[quiet swift]

the same?

is .xinitrc in ~/

[crystal mason]

Yeah I think so

[quiet swift]

also, remove .Xauthority again before trying this

[crystal mason]

Isn’t the issue that something keeps making an .Xauthority file?

[quiet swift]

show vim fullscreen with .xinitrc

[crystal mason]

Wait

[quiet swift]

yeah, .Xauthority is supposed to be created.

[crystal mason]

I’m in dwm

[quiet swift]

haha nice

[crystal mason]

But if I reboot

I won’t be able to do so

[quiet swift]

?

[crystal mason]

And I didn’t delete .cauthority

[crystal mason]

Lemme reboot to demonstrate.

I am in lightdm or whatever this is, dk why I uninstalled lemur. There isn’t a dwm option, and when I try to boot to i3, I get kicked back to a black screen.

[quiet swift]

add this in .xinitrc before exec dwm

    for f in /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc.d/?*.sh ; do
        [ -x "$f" ] && . "$f"
    done
    unset f
fi

make sure .xinitrc is in home. i.e. ~/.xinitrc

you'll either use startx or a display manager

pick a path :)

also try startx ~/.xinitrc

or wherever the .xinitrc is. (should be there)

delete .Xauthority before trying any new things, since it seems it gets created owned by root for some reason currently

[crystal mason]

XAuthority not writable, changed will be ignored.

Xauth timeout in locking xauthority file in blah blah

[quiet swift]

Did you do the latest suggestions after deleting .Xauthority?

[crystal mason]

I waited it out after it said this to see what would happen, it goes to a black screen, and it flickers.

[crystal mason]

Oh no

I forgot

[quiet swift]

unless you delete it, nothing will change, as the unwriteable .Xauthority is the only issue you have :)

but it is strange, I don't remember having run into anything like this about X11

[crystal mason]

I gotta go to school. Hopefully you’ll be up in about 10 hours.

[quiet swift]

yeah, will try to help more. have a good day!

btw, I'm sure this can be solved, but in case you might consider it; I moved to dwl on Wayland from dwm, and I really like it.
If you do not think you have some required applications that might have trouble on Wayland, you could prefer it.

[crystal mason]

I have an nvidia card. Doesn’t wayland have issues with nvidia?

And what apps could have trouble in wayland?

[quiet swift]

If desktop, yeah forget Wayland.
If laptop with iGPU + Nvidia, it works perfectly fine. Unless your external display ports are wired through the Nvidia GPU.

[crystal mason]

It’s desktop

[quiet swift]

:(

[crystal mason]

Yeah

Anyways

See ya in 10 hours or more

[crystal mason]

@quiet swift

Turns out those ten hours became 36 hours

Anyways

Im back and I have a lot of time.

@real cipher perhaps you could help?

Sorry for @ing

[real cipher]

@crystal mason if you have a working xinitrc startx will read from there and start your wm

and can just used startx

if you are not sure of what's inside your xinitrc or want to start x with something else you can directly call for the bin
like startx /usr/bin/i3

can I also ask you how you have installed arch?

[crystal mason]

Normal old fashioned way

[real cipher]

@crystal mason still having the Xauthority issue?

[crystal mason]

Wait

[real cipher]

mmh?

[crystal mason]

I can boot from the light den thing

Can I go back to lemur now?

[real cipher]

I'd try to reboot to make sure it works fine first

[crystal mason]

Yeah brb

[real cipher]

then yeah you could try to switch back to lemurs

[crystal mason]

IT WORKSSSS

Hehehehehehh

[real cipher]

you can leave lightdm installed

just in case

[crystal mason]

Nah

[real cipher]

just install lemurs, make sure that you have the wm scripts, then disable the lightdm service and start the lemurs service

[crystal mason]

Yeah

Hopefully nothing fucks up

While we’re at it

Do you know some things about dwm?

I get some compiling errors

[real cipher]

nah, I have only extensively used awesome wm and sway

[crystal mason]

Here is the errors I get

In case you can help

Also, why do I get these in lemur? I also got them before.

[real cipher]

probably a syntax error somewhere in the code

[crystal mason]

Yeah imma send this to a c server

[real cipher]

nah, you can ask here too, just people are going to need the full code or at least the function where that fails

[crystal mason]

It’s alright for now, I’ll see

What are the errors that pop up in lemur?

[real cipher]

I have no idea, looks like something related to nvidia

and your Xbox Wireless Controller Adapter firmware

[crystal mason]

That's alright. Btw, here is what probably causes the issue when compiling.

[real cipher]

@crystal mason

[crystal mason]

?

[real cipher]

line 189 of your code

[crystal mason]

What do I do?

[real cipher]

see the line above 189? that's how a modkey should look like

you just typed { MODKEY, that's it

missing parameters, no closing },

[crystal mason]

Ohhh

[real cipher]

remove that whole line

[crystal mason]

Done

Thanlks

[crystal mason]

Now I get this. It's just warnings

Can I fix them?

Nvm

I see it

It's alright

Thank you for everything

I cannot thank you enough

[real cipher]

np good luck 😅

[crystal mason]

Have a really great day!

[quiet swift]

Good luck with dwm! Hope you like it.

I see you installed quite a few patches. I guess you will try out the different layouts and features.
I would try to keep it simple. See if you are actually using the patches, and try to do more with what is offered by default in dwm, using only few patches to alter some specific things in case it really feels more natural or more convenient to you.

• pertag is an essential for me, and many dwm users.
• losefullscreen or focusfullscreen; I find quite useful. With focusfullscreen, you can forget about monocle mode.

Other stuff is quite optional for me.

• removeborder or smartborders; makes for a cleaner look when you have only one window.
• status2d; gives colors to your status bar.
• focusmonmouse; moves your mouse cursor to the other monitor when you switch to it.