jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 4:48 PM

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This is a fresh install of arch, im using gnome, I tried installing brave, chromium and so on and I found out that non of them actually work, even the calendar, no window shows, I tried the journalctl -xe command and here is the errors it showed

Mar 19 16:45:06 frenchnoodles-laptop gnome-shell[812]: Attempting to freeze the notification queue for object ClutterText[0x55dc8239e280]; Property notification does no>
Mar 19 16:45:06 frenchnoodles-laptop gnome-shell[812]: Attempting to thaw the notification queue for object ClutterText[0x55dc8239e280]; Property notification does not >
Mar 19 16:45:06 frenchnoodles-laptop gnome-shell[812]: Attempting to freeze the notification queue for object ClutterText[0x55dc834049a0]; Property notification does no>
Mar 19 16:45:06 frenchnoodles-laptop gnome-shell[812]: Attempting to thaw the notification queue for object ClutterText[0x55dc834049a0]; Property notification does not >

I hope that helps a little
It just repeats those 2-3 errors over and over

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chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 4:54 PM

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not sure I'll be able to help, but just to check a couple of things:
can you show me cat /etc/pacman.conf and can you run sudo pacman -Syu?

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 4:54 PM

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Sure!

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 4:54 PM

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and this is vanilla arch right?

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 4:55 PM

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chilly fulcrum and this is vanilla arch right?

I guess so?
As in installed from the ISO provided by arch website

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 4:55 PM

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cool

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 4:55 PM

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/etc/pacman.conf

See the pacman.conf(5) manpage for option and repository directives

GENERAL OPTIONS

[options]

The following paths are commented out with their default values listed.

If you wish to use different paths, uncomment and update the paths.

#RootDir = /
#DBPath = /var/lib/pacman/
#CacheDir = /var/cache/pacman/pkg/
#LogFile = /var/log/pacman.log
#GPGDir = /etc/pacman.d/gnupg/
#HookDir = /etc/pacman.d/hooks/
HoldPkg = pacman glibc
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/curl -L -C - -f -o %o %u
#XferCommand = /usr/bin/wget --passive-ftp -c -O %o %u
#CleanMethod = KeepInstalled
Architecture = auto

Pacman won't upgrade packages listed in IgnorePkg and members of IgnoreGroup

#IgnorePkg =
#IgnoreGroup =

#NoUpgrade =
#NoExtract =

Misc options

#UseSyslog
#Color
#NoProgressBar
CheckSpace
#VerbosePkgLists
#ParallelDownloads = 5

By default, pacman accepts packages signed by keys that its local keyring

trusts (see pacman-key and its man page), as well as unsigned packages.

SigLevel = Required DatabaseOptional
LocalFileSigLevel = Optional
#RemoteFileSigLevel = Required

#

NOTE: You must run `pacman-key --init` before first using pacman; the local

keyring can then be populated with the keys of all official Arch Linux

packagers with `pacman-key --populate archlinux`.

REPOSITORIES

- can be defined here or included from another file

- pacman will search repositories in the order defined here

- local/custom mirrors can be added here or in separate files

- repositories listed first will take precedence when packages

have identical names, regardless of version number

- URLs will have $repo replaced by the name of the current repo

- URLs will have $arch replaced by the name of the architecture

Repository entries are of the format:

[repo-name]

Server = ServerName

Include = IncludePath

The header [repo-name] is crucial - it must be present and

uncommented to enable the repo.

The testing repositories are disabled by default. To enable, uncomment the

repo name header and Include lines. You can add preferred servers immediately

after the header, and they will be used before the default mirrors.

#[testing]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[core]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[extra]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

#[community-testing]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

[community]
Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

If you want to run 32 bit applications on your x86_64 system,

enable the multilib repositories as required here.

#[multilib-testing]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

#[multilib]
#Include = /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist

An example of a custom package repository. See the pacman manpage for

tips on creating your own repositories.

#[custom]
#SigLevel = Optional TrustAll
#Server = file:///home/custompkgs

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 4:56 PM

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chilly fulcrum not sure I'll be able to help, but just to check a couple of things: can you sho...

sudo pacman -Syu is up to date
It said there is nothing to do

But I installed chromium from the gnome store market thing
And I installed brave both from github repository and the gnome store market thingy

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 4:56 PM

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yeah that all looks good

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hmmm, try uninstalling chromium and then install it using pacman? I never use gui's for installing packages

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 4:57 PM

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pacman -S ungoogled-chromium ?

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 4:58 PM

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jolly halo pacman -S ungoogled-chromium ?

not sure what the package will be called, is it chromium or ungoogled chromium you want?

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 4:58 PM

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using -Ss shows no result, (thats the search function if im not mistaken)

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 4:59 PM

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jolly halo using -Ss shows no result, (thats the search function if im not mistaken)

that is the correct searching command

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you might want the aur for it

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https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ungoogled-chromium

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 4:59 PM

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chilly fulcrum not sure what the package will be called, is it chromium or ungoogled chromium y...

Im not sure, I never touched that before, I installed the ungoogled one since it had a higher rating on the software app 💀

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 4:59 PM

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chilly fulcrum you might want the aur for it

ahhh
Imma install smt that doesnt need AUR, maybe AUR installs are not working for me

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 5:00 PM

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not sure why they wouldn't work for you

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I don't know where the gnome store connects to without looking

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it also looks like a recent issue some are facing with gnome

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:01 PM

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So I guess I should use yay ?

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 5:01 PM

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https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/strange-behavior-on-f37-with-random-short-freezings-on-the-system-and-second-monitor-shortly-disconecting/71049/5

https://github.com/linuxmint/cinnamon/issues/11562

Fedora Discussion

Strange behavior on f37 with random short freezings on the system a...

Are you by chance running the latest mutter and gnome-shell in Fedora 37? Can you check you system logs for messages similar to these: Attempting to freeze the notification queue for object ClutterText[0x5641b693eca0]; Property notification does not work during instance finalization. Attempting to thaw the notification queue for object Clutter...

GitHub

.xsession-errors is getting spammed after update to glib2 2.7.6 · I...

Cinnamon version (cinnamon --version) Cinnamon 5.6.7 Distribution - (Mint 21, Arch, Fedora 37, etc...) Arch Linux Graphics hardware and driver used AMD RX6600 8 GB xf86-video-amdgpu 23.0.0-1 32 or ...

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 5:01 PM

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jolly halo So I guess I should use `yay` ?

or paru, it's up to you which one

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:02 PM

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chilly fulcrum or paru, it's up to you which one

I alr installed yay to try w brave so I guess I could use that

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whats Diffs to show?

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"None, all, abort, installed"

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chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 5:05 PM

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https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yay-diffs-to-show/7839
Best bet is to google first, ask later, it's showing you difference in package build

EndeavourOS

Yay - diffs to show?

what does "diffs to show ? means ? what should i type to download the app ? Diffs to show? ==> [N]one [A]ll [Ab]ort [I]nstalled [No]tInstalled or (1 2 3, 1-3, ^4) [endea-andrew@endea-msi ~]$ yay -S brightness-controller-git :: Checking for conflicts... :: Checking for inner conflicts... [Repo:10] python-shiboken2-5.15.0-2 pyside2-5.15.0-2...

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:06 PM

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Oh apparently thats something about inspecting build packages for malicious code

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 5:06 PM

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exactly

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:06 PM

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chilly fulcrum https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/yay-diffs-to-show/7839 Best bet is to google fir...

Sorry

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Oh damn it needs 12h 💀

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1660M 💀

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 5:09 PM

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how much ram do you have?

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:09 PM

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6GB

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and 3GB swap

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Lmao this HAS to be a bug

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im gonna try restartin the download

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:14 PM

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chilly fulcrum https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ungoogled-chromium

It doesnt show the size here but isnt 1.6G a bit much for a browser installation file?

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 5:27 PM

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jolly halo It doesnt show the size here but isnt 1.6G a bit much for a browser installation...

meh, doesn't seem that outlandish to me

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:39 PM

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thats one big browser...

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its still downloading

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well, installing

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 5:47 PM

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compiling

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as I say though, I suspect that your issue is the one spoken about above in the links I gave

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 5:48 PM

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chilly fulcrum https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/strange-behavior-on-f37-with-random-short...

these

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:48 PM

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its surprisingly time consuming

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:48 PM

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chilly fulcrum these

Imma check these out then ig

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 5:49 PM

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binaries exist, some argue they're less secure though

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:52 PM

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chilly fulcrum compiling

whilst waiting for that, I tried installing chromium using pacman, but it had the same issue

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:53 PM

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chilly fulcrum these

THey do seem to have the same error that Im having, though the side effects arent really the same

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 5:56 PM

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what packages did you install when you installed gnome?

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:57 PM

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chilly fulcrum what packages did you install when you installed gnome?

Just gnome

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I did install pacman packages before that, but they were network related

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WHen it came to the DE, I just installed gnome and then enabled some app that starts with "g" in the services

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I rebooted and I was in gnome

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 5:58 PM

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gdm?

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:58 PM

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(Yes

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I think thats it

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 5:59 PM

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what is your output of mutter in the terminal?

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:59 PM

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I just tried chrome from yay aswell, also doesnt open

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 5:59 PM

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chilly fulcrum what is your output of `mutter` in the terminal?

libmutter-Message: 17:59:23.254: Running Mutter (using mutter 43.3) as a Wayland display server
Failed to setup: Could not take control: GDBus.Error:System.Error.EBUSY: Device or resource busy

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 6:01 PM

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when you can, can you log out and log back in on x11?

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what gpu are you using?

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 6:01 PM

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chilly fulcrum when you can, can you log out and log back in on x11?

x11? how can I do that?

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 6:02 PM

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when you click to type in your password, there should be a cog in the bottom right, that will likely have the option

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 6:02 PM

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chilly fulcrum what gpu are you using?

Its a laptop w a 920m

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 6:02 PM

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echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE
in terminal should tell you what you're using

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 6:03 PM

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it says wayland, imma login using the x11 thing and see what it says

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 6:05 PM

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chilly fulcrum `echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE` in terminal should tell you what you're using

Ok I just entered using "Gnome on Xorg" and that shows x11 in the terminal

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 6:05 PM

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do applications launch now?

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 6:05 PM

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Imma try reinstalling chrome and see

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 6:05 PM

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try the calender?

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 6:07 PM

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chilly fulcrum try the calender?

OMG IT WORKS
AND GOOGLE CHROME OPENED

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THANK YOU
I dont understand what changed or whats wayland or x11, but as long as it works im happy lol
Imma google them anyways

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 6:08 PM

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okay it's a wayland issue for gnome, that's interesting

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 6:08 PM

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I guess I should just stick to this xorg thing

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untill gnome fixes it

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 6:08 PM

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might want to stick to X11 for a couple weeks then retry wayland, see if the bug is fixed

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 6:08 PM

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Alrighty!

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 6:08 PM

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not sure if it's a mutter or wayland bug to be fair

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 6:09 PM

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is wayland like better than x11? except for that bug?

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if not then I guess I have no reason to switch back later

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If I understood correctly they are display servers/ protocols for display

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 6:12 PM

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it's, complicated, as it's partly drivers as well, on nvidia x11 is better, on amd wayland is better, on intel integrated cpu's, I genuinely don't know

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 6:13 PM

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Oh well
X11 seems to work just fine so imma just stick to that and do my thing I guess

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Thanks a lot for the help!
I wouldnt have thought of changing that setting on my own lol not in a million years

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 6:13 PM

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any more issues?

jolly halo Mar 19, 2023, 6:13 PM

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No more issues as far as I know

chilly fulcrum Mar 19, 2023, 6:13 PM

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... solved

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#[SOLVED] Most apps dont open, they open in the background before crashing

/etc/pacman.conf

See the pacman.conf(5) manpage for option and repository directives

GENERAL OPTIONS

The following paths are commented out with their default values listed.

If you wish to use different paths, uncomment and update the paths.

Pacman won't upgrade packages listed in IgnorePkg and members of IgnoreGroup

Misc options

By default, pacman accepts packages signed by keys that its local keyring

trusts (see pacman-key and its man page), as well as unsigned packages.

NOTE: You must run pacman-key --init before first using pacman; the local

keyring can then be populated with the keys of all official Arch Linux

packagers with pacman-key --populate archlinux.

REPOSITORIES

- can be defined here or included from another file

- pacman will search repositories in the order defined here

- local/custom mirrors can be added here or in separate files

- repositories listed first will take precedence when packages

have identical names, regardless of version number

- URLs will have $repo replaced by the name of the current repo

- URLs will have $arch replaced by the name of the architecture

Repository entries are of the format:

[repo-name]

Server = ServerName

Include = IncludePath

The header [repo-name] is crucial - it must be present and

uncommented to enable the repo.

The testing repositories are disabled by default. To enable, uncomment the

repo name header and Include lines. You can add preferred servers immediately

after the header, and they will be used before the default mirrors.

If you want to run 32 bit applications on your x86_64 system,

enable the multilib repositories as required here.

An example of a custom package repository. See the pacman manpage for

tips on creating your own repositories.

NOTE: You must run `pacman-key --init` before first using pacman; the local

packagers with `pacman-key --populate archlinux`.