[SOLVED] what to do after tty | Arch Linux Community | Page 1

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 1:42 AM

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Couldn’t log in so using tty. I just don’t know what to do in this state though. Is there a command I could be typing to access my DE

dense crater Feb 21, 2023, 2:19 AM

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Well what DE are you using?

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 4:00 AM

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I’m using KDE

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 4:15 AM

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Try sudo systemctl start graphical.target

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If that starts SDDM (or whatever you're using), then follow up with sudo systemctl set-default graphical.target.

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If not then there's some kind of problem with your DE installation. Possibly missing packages. You'll need further diagnosis.

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 4:55 AM

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mellow bay Try `sudo systemctl start graphical.target`

Thanks for the help. Unfortunately it didn’t work, but I appreciate you taking time out of your day.

ember moonBOT Feb 21, 2023, 4:55 AM

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mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 4:57 AM

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Pro tip
Post the error message, don't just say "it didn't work". We might get it fixed immediately

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 5:19 AM

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Thanks. There wasn’t an error message. It was just awaiting further instructions.

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The last time I was able to get it to work, I had installed additional DE like Gnome and xfce. Those worked last time.

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 5:36 AM

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UPDATE: formatted. Installed XFCE. Still doesn’t recognize my password. It’s 123. The keyboard layout is US. Also, now it doesn’t recognize it in tty anymore.
Strange.

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Attempting to install Gnome to see if that works.

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Nope. Doesn’t work either

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So far:
Xfce, Gnome, and KDE are all failing Login Attempts

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🤔

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Even after the 10min lockout for failed attempts, the Login still fails.

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 5:57 AM

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Oh what you're saying is that you're unable to login in the login manager

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Well that's a different issue

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And a much bigger one

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:11 AM

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mellow bay Oh what you're saying is that you're unable to login in the login manager

Yeah

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:12 AM

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quasi ibex Thanks. There wasn’t an error message. It was just awaiting further instructions...

So you said "awaiting further instructions". You mean it just hang?

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Or what did it say or do

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:13 AM

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It went:
user@thinkpad

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I didn’t know what to type next. I should have been more patient, but I went back to the graphical login to test out if the password worked. When it didn’t, I restarted and tried again in the tty, but this time even from there it didn’t recognize me

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:16 AM

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Pause

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You need to be more specific when describing stuff.

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:17 AM

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quasi ibex It went: user@thinkpad

So here are you referring to login manager or tty?

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:17 AM

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Tty

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:18 AM

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Yeah. Because from context your readers would assume login manager. But from what you said next it sounded like tty.

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:18 AM

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Sorry about that

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:18 AM

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So after you hit enter, it's waiting on a password

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And when you type the password, the cursor is not going to move

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For security and whatnot

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Have you used sudo before? It's like that.

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Sorry if this sounds stupid to you (it might not, I don't know).

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I should first ask you how experienced are you with Linux in general?

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:21 AM

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Not experienced.

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:22 AM

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Okay I see. Step by step then.

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:22 AM

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I’ve used the terminal and used sudo before

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:24 AM

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When you're in the TTY, it's going first to ask you for username. You type that and hit enter.
Then it's going to ask you for a password. There might not be a prompt, but that's what it's waiting on. When you enter the password, by default nothing is going to be printed for security, but it is being entered. So just make sure you type the correct password and hit enter.
If the login succeeds you will get a shell. If not it will tell you and you can try again.

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:24 AM

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Ah I see

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So, I got to the point where I was able to get to the shell (I believe) and I was able to type the systemctl commands I was given earlier.

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:26 AM

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Type something simple and verify that you are indeed in a shell

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Like ls /

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If it doesn't print anything, you're not in a shell

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:27 AM

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That’s where I messed up. I was an idiot by being impatient. Ended up going back to the graphical login and restarting.

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I went to tty to do the login again, but it didn’t recognize me anymore from there.

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I’d love to get back the point where I could be in tty and type Ls/

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:29 AM

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So where are you right now?

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Tty login?

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:30 AM

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I use the boot disk to get back to installation.

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root@archiso

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:31 AM

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Honestly, if this is your first experience with Linux, I would not recommend vanilla Arch.

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There is no graphical installer, and it's easy to mess things up on CLI.

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:32 AM

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I was going to update some packages but it said disk too full

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:32 AM

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May I recommend EndeavourOS?

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:32 AM

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Sure I’d love to use endeavor

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:32 AM

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It's based on Arch (basically it is Arch), but it has a graphical installer and different branding.

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:33 AM

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Oh cool.

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I’ll download it right now then!

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I’m bummed that I can’t use KDE plasma arch anymore. I’ve been on it for half a year

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:34 AM

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Essentially everything that you can do on arch you can do on endeavour. All arch packages are available, including from AUR.

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:34 AM

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It’s frustrating that I’ve been getting this problem with login so many times now

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:34 AM

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quasi ibex I’m bummed that I can’t use KDE plasma arch anymore. I’ve been on it for half a ...

Wait so it's not a new install?

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:34 AM

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I feel cursed

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It’s a new install

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:35 AM

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Oh good.

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Just use endeavour. It is basically the same as Arch. And you can use KDR too.

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KDE*

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:35 AM

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Thanks!

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Can’t wait to try it out

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Thanks again for all your time

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It’s so appreciated. Everyone here has been amazing

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:36 AM

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If you have questions with EndeavourOS you can ask here too. As I said, it's basically Arch.

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 6:37 AM

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Awesome

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 6:39 AM

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It's probably as close to vanilla Arch as possible without actually being vanilla Arch.

quasi ibex Feb 21, 2023, 7:17 AM

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mellow bay If you have questions with EndeavourOS you can ask here too. As I said, it's bas...

I’m in! The password worked!
When I reinstalled it one last time, i set it to have a separate home partition. I’m finally back in!

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[SOLVED] what to do after tty

mellow bay Feb 21, 2023, 8:34 AM

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That shouldn't have affected anything though. Are you sure you didn't just set the wrong password?

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